From kaatzk@onid.orst.edu Tue Aug 1 00:34:01 2006 From: kaatzk@onid.orst.edu (Kevin Kaatz) Date: Mon Jul 31 23:34:01 2006 Subject: Windows XP -- Right click freezes option menu Message-ID: <44CE8528.4080704@onid.orst.edu> In windows XP Home, when right clicking on the VNC icon, it brings up the normal options list, but nothing can be clicked, and it doesn't go away. This used to work fine. On my XP Pro system, I've never had a problem. What could be a solution to this? Kevin kaatzk@onid.orst.edu From jnw@realvnc.com Tue Aug 1 12:35:01 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Tue Aug 1 11:35:01 2006 Subject: Connection Problem with 4.1.2 and "Too Many Security Failures" In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20060731113016.05a93b90@66.70.151.127> Message-ID: <003401c6b556$19129160$6600a8c0@sturton.local> Hi Don, "Too many security failures" means that too many failed authentication attempts were made and so the server will not accept further attempts for a short while (initially ten seconds). After this period has elapsed, you'll be permitted another attempt to log in, and if that fails then the server won't accept further attempts for another twenty seconds and so-on. Note that if you attempt to connect to a server from separate viewer computers, all of which are behind the same NAT router, blacklisting will apply to all those computers, or to none of them. "Connection timed out" is most normally associated with computers being switched off, or behind a firewall. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Don Estes > Sent: 31 July 2006 16:50 > To: VNC Mail List > Subject: Connection Problem with 4.1.2 and "Too Many Security > Failures" > > The following smells like a bug to me. Please advise if you > agree. Also note the question below. > > I hit the "too many security failures" situation trying to remotely > access a system with problems. OK, I understand the blacklist, > timeout and recovery implementation from other postings to this > list. But a strange thing happens when I try to connect again: I get > an apparent connection (post-timeout), it asks for the password, and > immediately switches to the "Do you want to try again" message along > with the "Too many security failures" message. > > Now, initially, I was interpreting this as meaning that I was getting > a connection but I was still failing the authentication. It happened > on three different computers on my home network, though one was a > virtual computer running W2K under VMWare. However, when I dialed > into the Internet and tried a connection I got "unable to connect to > host: connection timed out (10060)". The same thing happened when I > took my laptop to work and used my connection there. And finally, my > (remote) son attempted the same connection with the same results. > > I am still struggling to get the remote system correctly operating > (it appears to have a problem unrelated to VNC), so until I am able > to clear this I don't have a definitive case. > > However, my interpretation of what I am seeing is as follows: > > 1. When attempting to connect from the blacklisted IP address, the > Viewer misses the connection time-out failure and proceeds as if it > had a successful connection. > > 2. When attempting to authenticate against the apparently successful > connection (that was nonetheless unsuccessful), it gets a timeout > failure and treats that event as if the password were incorrect, > re-blacklisting the IP address. > > 3. When I can connect from another IP address, the networked IP > address will successfully connect and clear the blacklist. > > Do you agree? > > Question: where is the authentication blacklisting occurring? I > assumed that it should be happening at the remote system, but that > would appear to be contrary to the observation that I cannot get a > connect from 3 IP addresses that have not been blacklisted. > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From jimmyre@tpg.com.au Tue Aug 1 16:37:00 2006 From: jimmyre@tpg.com.au (Jimmy) Date: Tue Aug 1 15:37:00 2006 Subject: Request - Connection logging Message-ID: <000e01c6b577$fbb003b0$f3100b10$@com.au> Hello! Must say that I love VNC; handiest program ever! But I've just recently come across an idea that could be helpful. I've just had some random attempt to VNC me.I asked the one person who does know the password and it wasn't him. Lost as to who it could be (and how the bloody hell he knows what the password is) and considering that I thought it was one of my friends (didn't pay attention to the IP address) I would like to suggest that connection logging be an option in an upcoming version of RealVNC. Just something simple like recording the IP address, time, denied/accepted, port and anything else useful into a .txt file. Thanks in advance! Jimmy. From alexp@broadcom.com Tue Aug 1 17:41:00 2006 From: alexp@broadcom.com (Alex Pelts) Date: Tue Aug 1 16:41:00 2006 Subject: Request - Connection logging In-Reply-To: <000e01c6b577$fbb003b0$f3100b10$@com.au> References: <000e01c6b577$fbb003b0$f3100b10$@com.au> Message-ID: <44CF75CF.3050008@broadcom.com> There is logging already. VNC server logs in to windows application log. Regards, Alex Jimmy wrote: > Hello! > > > > Must say that I love VNC; handiest program ever! But I've just recently come > across an idea that could be helpful. I've just had some random attempt to > VNC me.I asked the one person who does know the password and it wasn't him. > Lost as to who it could be (and how the bloody hell he knows what the > password is) and considering that I thought it was one of my friends (didn't > pay attention to the IP address) I would like to suggest that connection > logging be an option in an upcoming version of RealVNC. Just something > simple like recording the IP address, time, denied/accepted, port and > anything else useful into a .txt file. > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > Jimmy. > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From glendaharris@bellsouth.net Tue Aug 1 17:50:02 2006 From: glendaharris@bellsouth.net (glendaharris@bellsouth.net) Date: Tue Aug 1 16:50:02 2006 Subject: Request - Connection logging Message-ID: <20060801154924.EAPS18082.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> How do you find this windowns application log? Glenda Harris > > From: "Alex Pelts" > Date: 2006/08/01 Tue AM 11:39:59 EDT > To: "Jimmy" > CC: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Re: Request - Connection logging > > There is logging already. VNC server logs in to windows application log. > > Regards, > Alex > > Jimmy wrote: > > Hello! > > > > > > > > Must say that I love VNC; handiest program ever! But I've just recently come > > across an idea that could be helpful. I've just had some random attempt to > > VNC me.I asked the one person who does know the password and it wasn't him. > > Lost as to who it could be (and how the bloody hell he knows what the > > password is) and considering that I thought it was one of my friends (didn't > > pay attention to the IP address) I would like to suggest that connection > > logging be an option in an upcoming version of RealVNC. Just something > > simple like recording the IP address, time, denied/accepted, port and > > anything else useful into a .txt file. > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > > > > > Jimmy. > > _______________________________________________ > > VNC-List mailing list > > VNC-List@realvnc.com > > To remove yourself from the list visit: > > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From alexp@broadcom.com Tue Aug 1 18:14:01 2006 From: alexp@broadcom.com (Alex Pelts) Date: Tue Aug 1 17:14:01 2006 Subject: Request - Connection logging In-Reply-To: <20060801154924.EAPS18082.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> References: <20060801154924.EAPS18082.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <44CF7D7D.6010007@broadcom.com> ControlPanel/Administrative Tools/Event Viewer. Look in application logs for WinVNC. Regards, Alex glendaharris@bellsouth.net wrote: > How do you find this windowns application log? > Glenda Harris >> From: "Alex Pelts" >> Date: 2006/08/01 Tue AM 11:39:59 EDT >> To: "Jimmy" >> CC: vnc-list@realvnc.com >> Subject: Re: Request - Connection logging >> >> There is logging already. VNC server logs in to windows application log. >> >> Regards, >> Alex >> >> Jimmy wrote: >>> Hello! >>> >>> >>> >>> Must say that I love VNC; handiest program ever! But I've just recently come >>> across an idea that could be helpful. I've just had some random attempt to >>> VNC me.I asked the one person who does know the password and it wasn't him. >>> Lost as to who it could be (and how the bloody hell he knows what the >>> password is) and considering that I thought it was one of my friends (didn't >>> pay attention to the IP address) I would like to suggest that connection >>> logging be an option in an upcoming version of RealVNC. Just something >>> simple like recording the IP address, time, denied/accepted, port and >>> anything else useful into a .txt file. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks in advance! >>> >>> >>> >>> Jimmy. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> VNC-List mailing list >>> VNC-List@realvnc.com >>> To remove yourself from the list visit: >>> http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list >> _______________________________________________ >> VNC-List mailing list >> VNC-List@realvnc.com >> To remove yourself from the list visit: >> http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From edranem@dranem.org Tue Aug 1 18:21:03 2006 From: edranem@dranem.org (evets dranem) Date: Tue Aug 1 17:21:03 2006 Subject: Request - Connection logging In-Reply-To: <20060801154924.EAPS18082.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> References: <20060801154924.EAPS18082.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <44CF7F56.2030400@dranem.org> glendaharris@bellsouth.net wrote: >How do you find this windowns application log? >Glenda Harris > > >>From: "Alex Pelts" >>Date: 2006/08/01 Tue AM 11:39:59 EDT >>To: "Jimmy" >>CC: vnc-list@realvnc.com >>Subject: Re: Request - Connection logging >> >>There is logging already. VNC server logs in to windows application log. >> >>Regards, >>Alex >> >>Jimmy wrote: >> >> >>>Hello! >>> >>> >>> >>>Must say that I love VNC; handiest program ever! But I've just recently come >>>across an idea that could be helpful. I've just had some random attempt to >>>VNC me.I asked the one person who does know the password and it wasn't him. >>>Lost as to who it could be (and how the bloody hell he knows what the >>>password is) and considering that I thought it was one of my friends (didn't >>>pay attention to the IP address) I would like to suggest that connection >>>logging be an option in an upcoming version of RealVNC. Just something >>>simple like recording the IP address, time, denied/accepted, port and >>>anything else useful into a .txt file. >>> >>> >>> >>>Thanks in advance! >>> >>> >>> >>>Jimmy. >>>_______________________________________________ >>>VNC-List mailing list >>>VNC-List@realvnc.com >>>To remove yourself from the list visit: >>>http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>VNC-List mailing list >>VNC-List@realvnc.com >>To remove yourself from the list visit: >>http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list >> >> >_______________________________________________ >VNC-List mailing list >VNC-List@realvnc.com >To remove yourself from the list visit: >http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list > > > ControlPanel Administrative Tools EventViewer Application Log From fleury.matthieu@wanadoo.fr Wed Aug 2 03:16:02 2006 From: fleury.matthieu@wanadoo.fr (Matthieu Fleury) Date: Wed Aug 2 02:16:02 2006 Subject: error 10061 Message-ID: <200608020115.AIN70633@smtp.mana.pf> Hello, As many other people apparently, i have the 10061 problem. But I tried everything, and get no result. I'm using version 4.1.2, on both viewer and server side. The symptoms are When I try to connect internally (using the private 10.20.7.1 address of the server), I can connect, no problem. When I try to connect (still using a computer on the network), by typing the public ip address (or the dyndns address), I got the "connection refused (10061)" error. When I try to connect from a distant computer, by typing the public ip address (or the dyndns address), I got the "connection refused (10061)" error. When I try to connect to the server, from the server, using it's public ip address, same error. I can connect to other servers I got, that runs realvnc (on another network), with exactly the same settings than this faulty server. I've read on the net everything I could find to solve the problem, and I checked the following points : - My firewall is disabled, all ports are opened. I also tried to put the server on DMZ. - I went on the page http://www.realvnc.com/cgi-bin/nettest.cgi, and get a perfect result : The IP address requesting this web page is 202.3.xxx.xxx Connecting to port 5900 ... succeeded. Waiting for server to send version string... Found a server supporting protocol version 3.8. - I am using the default settings, port 5900 and 5800 So now, I am short on any new idea to solve my problem. Can anyone help me ? Thanks a lot, any help will be highly appreciated, I'm stucked, and really need to make this thing work. Regards Matthieu From krishna@lucidindia.net Wed Aug 2 06:49:01 2006 From: krishna@lucidindia.net (KK) Date: Wed Aug 2 05:49:01 2006 Subject: Using VNC & RemoteDesktop simulatneously Message-ID: <004401c6b5ee$caa988f0$1e01a8c0@PF301> Dear All I'm having two networks N1 and N2 and both are interconnected over internet. Two system X & Y are connected to N1 and both are accessible with VNC to the system A which in N2. System Y is WindowsXP Professional and RemoteDesktop feature is enabled. System X is connected to System Y using RemoteDesktop. When I tried to connect to Y from A using VNC, the other running RemoteDesktop session is getting disconnected with message ('The Remote session was disconnected because another user has connected to the session") and vice versa. If both systems are trying to connect using VNC,it's perfectly alright. Can't we simultaneously connect to one system with both VNC & RemoteDesktop feature? What are the changes I need to do so that both can work simultaneously? Thanks in advance. Krishna Rao K Lucid Software Ltd | 104, NSIC STP Complex | Guindy Industrial Estate | Ekkattuthangal | Chennai 600032 ' +91 44 2225 2273 / 76 , +91 98407 28998 From tomb@byrneit.net Wed Aug 2 09:18:01 2006 From: tomb@byrneit.net (Tomas L. Byrnes) Date: Wed Aug 2 08:18:01 2006 Subject: Using VNC & RemoteDesktop simulatneously In-Reply-To: <004401c6b5ee$caa988f0$1e01a8c0@PF301> Message-ID: <7F5DF1ABF6B0864F88C9682DC23A270B6F0EBA@pascal.zaphodb.org> I haven't been able to get RDC and VNC to live happily on the same box. It seems to be one or the other. BTW: I PREFER VNC, but can't get it to work on a 64bit platform. Any word on 64 bit VNC???? -----Original Message----- From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of KK Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 9:48 PM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Using VNC & RemoteDesktop simulatneously Dear All I'm having two networks N1 and N2 and both are interconnected over internet. Two system X & Y are connected to N1 and both are accessible with VNC to the system A which in N2. System Y is WindowsXP Professional and RemoteDesktop feature is enabled. System X is connected to System Y using RemoteDesktop. When I tried to connect to Y from A using VNC, the other running RemoteDesktop session is getting disconnected with message ('The Remote session was disconnected because another user has connected to the session") and vice versa. If both systems are trying to connect using VNC,it's perfectly alright. Can't we simultaneously connect to one system with both VNC & RemoteDesktop feature? What are the changes I need to do so that both can work simultaneously? Thanks in advance. Krishna Rao K Lucid Software Ltd | 104, NSIC STP Complex | Guindy Industrial Estate | Ekkattuthangal | Chennai 600032 ' +91 44 2225 2273 / 76 , +91 98407 28998 _______________________________________________ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From jnw@realvnc.com Wed Aug 2 10:47:00 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Wed Aug 2 09:47:00 2006 Subject: Using VNC & RemoteDesktop simulatneously In-Reply-To: <7F5DF1ABF6B0864F88C9682DC23A270B6F0EBA@pascal.zaphodb.org> Message-ID: <003201c6b610$21267be0$6600a8c0@sturton.local> > BTW: I PREFER VNC, but can't get it to work on a 64bit platform. Any > word on 64 bit VNC???? Can you elaborate on "can't get it to work"? Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. From jnw@realvnc.com Wed Aug 2 11:02:02 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Wed Aug 2 10:02:02 2006 Subject: Using VNC & RemoteDesktop simulatneously In-Reply-To: <004401c6b5ee$caa988f0$1e01a8c0@PF301> Message-ID: <003301c6b610$96ff6610$6600a8c0@sturton.local> Krishna, Since Windows XP only allows one session to be connected at any one time, the moment you log in to the console (either directly or via VNC), your Remote Desktop connection will be closed. This has nothing to do with VNC. What is it that you're actually trying to achieve? Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of KK > Sent: 02 August 2006 05:48 > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Using VNC & RemoteDesktop simulatneously > > Dear All > > I'm having two networks N1 and N2 and both are > interconnected over > internet. > Two system X & Y are connected to N1 and both are accessible > with VNC to > the system A which in N2. > System Y is WindowsXP Professional and RemoteDesktop feature > is enabled. > System X is connected to System Y using RemoteDesktop. > When I tried to connect to Y from A using VNC, the other running > RemoteDesktop session is getting disconnected with message > ('The Remote session was disconnected because another user > has connected to > the session") and vice versa. > If both systems are trying to connect using VNC,it's > perfectly alright. > Can't we simultaneously connect to one system with both VNC & > RemoteDesktop > feature? > What are the changes I need to do so that both can work > simultaneously? > > Thanks in advance. > > Krishna Rao K > Lucid Software Ltd | 104, NSIC STP Complex | Guindy > Industrial Estate | > Ekkattuthangal | Chennai 600032 > ' +91 44 2225 2273 / 76 , +91 98407 28998 > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From edranem@dranem.org Wed Aug 2 13:26:01 2006 From: edranem@dranem.org (evets dranem) Date: Wed Aug 2 12:26:01 2006 Subject: Using VNC & RemoteDesktop simulatneously In-Reply-To: <004401c6b5ee$caa988f0$1e01a8c0@PF301> References: <004401c6b5ee$caa988f0$1e01a8c0@PF301> Message-ID: <44D08B45.1070506@dranem.org> You could try the Shared Connection in Options. It will allow two [or more] viewers to connect to the same session. [you may want to remove the check for Non-Shared connection replace shared] but if you want 1 session to be not shared leave it checked and the client viewer can be configured as shared or not to allow more than 1 viewer or not. RDP & VNC is an either or [single remote session at a time thing] KK wrote: > Dear All > > I'm having two networks N1 and N2 and both are interconnected over > internet. > Two system X & Y are connected to N1 and both are accessible with VNC > to the system A which in N2. > System Y is WindowsXP Professional and RemoteDesktop feature is enabled. > System X is connected to System Y using RemoteDesktop. > When I tried to connect to Y from A using VNC, the other running > RemoteDesktop session is getting disconnected with message > ('The Remote session was disconnected because another user has > connected to the session") and vice versa. > If both systems are trying to connect using VNC,it's perfectly alright. > Can't we simultaneously connect to one system with both VNC & > RemoteDesktop feature? > What are the changes I need to do so that both can work simultaneously? > > Thanks in advance. > > Krishna Rao K > Lucid Software Ltd | 104, NSIC STP Complex | Guindy Industrial Estate > | Ekkattuthangal | Chennai 600032 > ' +91 44 2225 2273 / 76 , +91 98407 28998 > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From jerry@westrick.com Wed Aug 2 13:35:05 2006 From: jerry@westrick.com (Jerry Westrick) Date: Wed Aug 2 12:35:05 2006 Subject: error 10061 In-Reply-To: <200608020115.AIN70633@smtp.mana.pf> References: <200608020115.AIN70633@smtp.mana.pf> Message-ID: <200608021230.32278.jerry@westrick.com> First find out if you got a vnc or a network problem... I assume you are using port 5900 on your server! This can be done on the client machine as follows: in a dosbox (or unix shell) type telnet servername 5900 If you get a line with "RFB" rthen it's a vnc problem... If you don't get the RFB line then you got a network problem. Jerry Westrick On Tuesday 01 August 2006 17:12, Matthieu Fleury wrote: > Hello, > > > > As many other people apparently, i have the 10061 problem. But I tried > everything, and get no result. > > > > I'm using version 4.1.2, on both viewer and server side. > > > > The symptoms are > > When I try to connect internally (using the private 10.20.7.1 address of > the server), I can connect, no problem. > > When I try to connect (still using a computer on the network), by typing > the public ip address (or the dyndns address), I got the "connection > refused (10061)" error. > > When I try to connect from a distant computer, by typing the public ip > address (or the dyndns address), I got the "connection refused (10061)" > error. > > When I try to connect to the server, from the server, using it's public ip > address, same error. > > > > I can connect to other servers I got, that runs realvnc (on another > network), with exactly the same settings than this faulty server. > > > > I've read on the net everything I could find to solve the problem, and I > checked the following points : > > - My firewall is disabled, all ports are opened. I also tried to > put the server on DMZ. > > - I went on the page http://www.realvnc.com/cgi-bin/nettest.cgi, > and get a perfect result : > > The IP address requesting this web page is 202.3.xxx.xxx > > Connecting to port 5900 ... succeeded. > > Waiting for server to send version string... > > Found a server supporting protocol version 3.8. > > - I am using the default settings, port 5900 and 5800 > > > > > > So now, I am short on any new idea to solve my problem. > > > > Can anyone help me ? > > > > Thanks a lot, any help will be highly appreciated, I'm stucked, and really > need to make this thing work. > > > > Regards > > > > Matthieu > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From edranem@dranem.org Wed Aug 2 13:37:10 2006 From: edranem@dranem.org (evets dranem) Date: Wed Aug 2 12:37:10 2006 Subject: error 10061 In-Reply-To: <200608020115.AIN70633@smtp.mana.pf> References: <200608020115.AIN70633@smtp.mana.pf> Message-ID: <44D08D6B.9060900@dranem.org> 10.x.x.x is a private IP and works from inside; Public IP arriving from outside does not make it in. I would check for Port forwarding at the Internet gateway since it appears that request is being dropped and not forwarded to the remote computer or maybe connections tab has numbers in the allowed list normally t is a single line with a + sign meaning all can connect If there are more than 1 machine you could forward 5900 to PC0; 5901 to PC1 etc at the firewall. using the virtual servers a NAT or Port forward rule something like incoming TCP Session port 5900 forward to 10.20.7.1 port 5900 incoming TCP Session port 5902 forward to 10.20.7.17 port 5900 or configure each client to listen on their own ports like incoming TCP Session port 5904 forward to 10.20.7.11 port 4 and address it vncviewer "pu.bl.ic.ip:5904" to hit inside 10.20.7.11:5904 and address it vncviewer "pu.bl.ic.ip:5902" to hit inside 10.20.7.17:5900 Connections tab --> accept connections on port #5900 default Matthieu Fleury wrote: >Hello, > > > >As many other people apparently, i have the 10061 problem. But I tried >everything, and get no result. > > > >I'm using version 4.1.2, on both viewer and server side. > > > >The symptoms are > >When I try to connect internally (using the private 10.20.7.1 address of the >server), I can connect, no problem. > >When I try to connect (still using a computer on the network), by typing the >public ip address (or the dyndns address), I got the "connection refused >(10061)" error. > >When I try to connect from a distant computer, by typing the public ip >address (or the dyndns address), I got the "connection refused (10061)" >error. > >When I try to connect to the server, from the server, using it's public ip >address, same error. > > > >I can connect to other servers I got, that runs realvnc (on another >network), with exactly the same settings than this faulty server. > > > >I've read on the net everything I could find to solve the problem, and I >checked the following points : > >- My firewall is disabled, all ports are opened. I also tried to >put the server on DMZ. > >- I went on the page http://www.realvnc.com/cgi-bin/nettest.cgi, >and get a perfect result : > >The IP address requesting this web page is 202.3.xxx.xxx > >Connecting to port 5900 ... succeeded. > >Waiting for server to send version string... > >Found a server supporting protocol version 3.8. > >- I am using the default settings, port 5900 and 5800 > > > > > >So now, I am short on any new idea to solve my problem. > > > >Can anyone help me ? > > > >Thanks a lot, any help will be highly appreciated, I'm stucked, and really >need to make this thing work. > > > >Regards > > > >Matthieu >_______________________________________________ >VNC-List mailing list >VNC-List@realvnc.com >To remove yourself from the list visit: >http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From davidm@imcu.com Wed Aug 2 13:58:03 2006 From: davidm@imcu.com (David McSpadden) Date: Wed Aug 2 12:58:03 2006 Subject: VNC policy Message-ID: I would like to push a new password out to all my desktops on my WAN. We are on a Windows 2003 Active Directory. We have UltraVNC installed. I am using the MS authentication but I want the static password changed as well. I need three things to happen. 1 All static passwords be changed to xxxxxxxxx. 2 All workstation be forced to use MS authentication. 3 All workstation VNCviewer service be set to stopped and manual. Any takers??? If we can get 1 and 3 working automagically I will have the (L)users set the option for MS logon. I just don't want 350 users knowing the password for VNC. From virus@nolog.org Wed Aug 2 14:37:01 2006 From: virus@nolog.org (virus@nolog.org) Date: Wed Aug 2 13:37:01 2006 Subject: Wishes: Announcement of new versions Message-ID: <44D09C28.9070004@nolog.org> Hello, an announcement of new versions and security updates, maybe on a additional mailing list (security@realvnc.com for example) - would be verynice. At the moment such announces could only be found on the web site, if I didn't miss anything... TIA GTi From jbeauford@EightInOnePet.com Wed Aug 2 14:42:01 2006 From: jbeauford@EightInOnePet.com (Beauford, Jason) Date: Wed Aug 2 13:42:01 2006 Subject: VNC policy Message-ID: <8AAB5E48C043704B8F1B835DD8F0A446029ACBD0@starling.eio.local> David McSpadden wrote: > I would like to push a new password out to all my desktops on my WAN. > We are on a Windows 2003 Active Directory. > We have UltraVNC installed. I am using the MS authentication but I > want the static password changed as well. I need three things to > happen. 1 All static passwords be changed to xxxxxxxxx. > 2 All workstation be forced to use MS authentication. > 3 All workstation VNCviewer service be set to stopped and manual. > > Any takers??? > If we can get 1 and 3 working automagically I will have the (L)users > set the option for MS logon. > I just don't want 350 users knowing the password for VNC. > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list 1: http://www.sysworksoft.net/products/vncpwd.html 2: http://ultravnc.sourceforge.net/features/authentication.html (maybe mslogonacl.exe can help) 3: Group Policy? JMB From Steveb@tshore.com Wed Aug 2 14:49:00 2006 From: Steveb@tshore.com (Steveb@tshore.com) Date: Wed Aug 2 13:49:00 2006 Subject: VNC policy Message-ID: <3F194DDE9CB3B64C9902A013994D7F8E010BA2FD@exchange2k.tshore.com> VNCScan - http://www.vncscan.com - has a mass VNC password changer that does both standard VNC and UltraVNC MS-Login changes. -----Original Message----- From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of David McSpadden Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 7:55 AM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Cc: Aaron Rohyans Subject: VNC policy I would like to push a new password out to all my desktops on my WAN. We are on a Windows 2003 Active Directory. We have UltraVNC installed. I am using the MS authentication but I want the static password changed as well. I need three things to happen. 1 All static passwords be changed to xxxxxxxxx. 2 All workstation be forced to use MS authentication. 3 All workstation VNCviewer service be set to stopped and manual. Any takers??? If we can get 1 and 3 working automagically I will have the (L)users set the option for MS logon. I just don't want 350 users knowing the password for VNC. _______________________________________________ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From whooper@freeshell.org Wed Aug 2 15:22:01 2006 From: whooper@freeshell.org (William Hooper) Date: Wed Aug 2 14:22:01 2006 Subject: Wishes: Announcement of new versions In-Reply-To: <44D09C28.9070004@nolog.org> References: <44D09C28.9070004@nolog.org> Message-ID: <64101.70.61.179.202.1154524909.squirrel@whooper.org> virus@nolog.org wrote: > Hello, > > > an announcement of new versions and security updates, maybe on a > additional mailing list (security@realvnc.com for example) - would be > verynice. At the moment such announces could only be found on the web > site, if I didn't miss anything... You missed something. http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-announce -- William Hooper From yury@s-code.com Wed Aug 2 15:43:00 2006 From: yury@s-code.com (Yury Averkiev) Date: Wed Aug 2 14:43:00 2006 Subject: VNC policy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00d001c6b639$56ec84d0$0502a8c0@think> SmartCode VNC Manager includes Reset VNC Password Wizard feature. http://www.s-code.com Best regards, Yury > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of David McSpadden > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 7:55 PM > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Cc: Aaron Rohyans > Subject: VNC policy > > I would like to push a new password out to all my desktops on my WAN. > We are on a Windows 2003 Active Directory. > We have UltraVNC installed. I am using the MS authentication > but I want the > static password changed as well. > I need three things to happen. > 1 All static passwords be changed to xxxxxxxxx. > 2 All workstation be forced to use MS authentication. > 3 All workstation VNCviewer service be set to stopped and manual. > > Any takers??? > If we can get 1 and 3 working automagically I will have the > (L)users set the > option for MS logon. > I just don't want 350 users knowing the password for VNC. > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From jnw@realvnc.com Wed Aug 2 16:02:02 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Wed Aug 2 15:02:02 2006 Subject: VNC policy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <012701c6b63c$1f8fd250$6600a8c0@sturton.local> Hi David, You may wish to try VNC Enterprise Edition (http://www.realvnc.com/products/enterprise), which provides in-built session security, supports authentication versus native Windows user accounts, including AD accounts, and which can be deployed and configured using the VNC Deployment Tool (http://www.realvnc.com/products/vnctool). Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of David McSpadden > Sent: 02 August 2006 12:55 > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Cc: Aaron Rohyans > Subject: VNC policy > > I would like to push a new password out to all my desktops on my WAN. > We are on a Windows 2003 Active Directory. > We have UltraVNC installed. I am using the MS authentication > but I want the > static password changed as well. > I need three things to happen. > 1 All static passwords be changed to xxxxxxxxx. > 2 All workstation be forced to use MS authentication. > 3 All workstation VNCviewer service be set to stopped and manual. > > Any takers??? > If we can get 1 and 3 working automagically I will have the > (L)users set the > option for MS logon. > I just don't want 350 users knowing the password for VNC. > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From virus@nolog.org Wed Aug 2 16:14:05 2006 From: virus@nolog.org (virus@nolog.org) Date: Wed Aug 2 15:14:05 2006 Subject: Wishes: Announcement of new versions In-Reply-To: <64101.70.61.179.202.1154524909.squirrel@whooper.org> References: <44D09C28.9070004@nolog.org> <64101.70.61.179.202.1154524909.squirrel@whooper.org> Message-ID: <44D0B2D8.3050906@nolog.org> Hello, William Hooper wrote: > You missed something. > > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-announce first thought: Oops! I'm already subscribed to that list, am I that stupid that I have read an announcement of VNC Enterprise Edition 4.2.5 but already forgot it? No, I am not ;) Just took a look at the archive and couldn't find an announcement of VNC Enterprise Edition 4.2.6. The last announcement - the only one this year - was from Mon May 15 12:37:39 2006, but version 4.2.6 is definetly newer and was not announced there. Will new versions containing security fixes not be announced? I thought they would, since on http://www.realvnc.com/lists.html there I found: "The VNC Announcements List is a moderated forum for occasional important announcements such as the release of a new version of VNC." The question now: What is a "new version"? A change in the version number X.X.X to X.X.Y shows, in my opinion, a new version. Am I wrong here? GTi From ehud@unix.mvs.co.il Wed Aug 2 16:20:01 2006 From: ehud@unix.mvs.co.il (Ehud Karni) Date: Wed Aug 2 15:20:01 2006 Subject: using VNC display(s) to generate images on a webserver In-Reply-To: <1154369334@sheol.org> (throopw@sheol.org) References: <1154369334@sheol.org> Message-ID: <200608021415.k72EFa0L017696@beta.mvs.co.il> On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:21:41 Wayne Throop wrote: > > : Paul ROBINS > : I'm a bit surprised that there have been no other responses :( Xvnc > : initally seems very nice to use as a virtual display for running in > : batch or cgi X11 apps that need a display. It's a real shame that you > : can't control it a bit more :( > > But more importantly, I'd suggest using Xvfb instead. This task is > pretty much what it's specialized for, and it won't do any extra work > at all besides the X rendering on a bitmap. It should be lightweight > enough you can just start it for each client request, or so I suspect. > If not, you'd still have collision and timeout issues just like Xvnc, > but they should be addressable the same ways. And it's part of the > standard X.org release (and Xfree86 before it). > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xvfb > > Note that, if you need to take a peek at the screen, or even use > mouse and keyboard at it for debugging, you can use x11vnc or x0vncserver > to treat it as a vnc server for debugging, without having any vnc access > overhead during normal operation. Pardon me for getting to this thread in the middle. I have to disagree. I use VNC for display purpose for over 5 years, also on a web page. Here is what I do: 1. Create a virtual X by using a modified vncserver script with 3 important arguments: -alwaysshared -dontdisconnect -viewonly (for the -viewonly argument which uses my view-only patch, see: http://realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2000-July/015830.html, http://www.tightvnc.com/whatsnew.html [under 1.2.5] ). 2. Run the needed applications (xload, xterm+top, xclock, etc.) with display set to the virtual X created in {1}. 3. I use import (from the ImageMagick package) to convert the virtual X to png like this: import -display vncs:3 -silent -window root vnc-3.png 4. Since my web server is across the Atlantic, I use ftp to copy this png to the remote server. You can see the result (updated every 5 minutes) at: http://t-e-k.biz/VNC/vnc_load.html . Hint. You can use xsri (available on GNU/Linux and Cygwin) to set the background of the virtual X created by VNC. I use: xsri --tile=bg.png --set Ehud. -- Ehud Karni Tel: +972-3-7966-561 /"\ Mivtach - Simon Fax: +972-3-7966-667 \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign Insurance agencies (USA) voice mail and X Against HTML Mail http://www.mvs.co.il FAX: 1-815-5509341 / \ GnuPG: 98EA398D Better Safe Than Sorry From 121@blueyonder.co.uk Wed Aug 2 17:11:00 2006 From: 121@blueyonder.co.uk (121@blueyonder.co.uk) Date: Wed Aug 2 16:11:00 2006 Subject: Error 10061 - Connection refused - Some info that may help Message-ID: <003601c6b645$be57c6a0$6701a8c0@PEARSON> I use the freeware version of realVNC to monitor a PC running some CCTV capture software connected to a linksys router using a wireless adaptor. The software on the server PC is windows 98, the viewer PC is running XP. Today when I tried to get connected to the server pc I received the Error 10061 message. After examining some of the posts relating to this problem on the vnc-list I tried varoius options on my router (i.e port forwarding, DMZ etc) to no avail. To help analyse the problem I downloaded and used a freeware IP packet sniffer program. (http://www.plasticwater.com/PlasticSniffer/) This software identified that the server PC was responding to messages from the viewer PC, with the server sending the messages on port 5900 to the viewer PC initially on port 2785. Each time I attempted to make the connection the port on the viewer pc the message was sent to was incremented by 1. i.e. 2786, 2787, 2788 ........ I checked that this port incrementation occured for 5 successive attempts. It looked like the server PC was respoding but didn't know where to send the message. On checking the server pc I discovered the problem, the VNC service was not configured or running. After selecting the configure and then the start service options I was able to access the server pc with no difficulties. It appears that although the server pc was not running the service there must have something that was stil resident that was responding to my initial requests. Hope its of some help to others experiencing this problem. Stuart From shashikanthd@hotmail.com Wed Aug 2 17:43:00 2006 From: shashikanthd@hotmail.com (Shashi Kanth Durgavajjhala) Date: Wed Aug 2 16:43:00 2006 Subject: Real VNC 4.2.6 and TightVNC 1.2.2 give same problem Message-ID: Hi, I use VNC 4.2.6 for accessing Solaris 8 server from Windows XP pc. my vnc started automatically on display 4 (X:4) and so I use the same to connect from client (ip address:4). It opens up the window but its not the actual screen that is open on the console (server) as it seems to open a virtual desktop. Ques 1) How do I get to control the console screen as it is remotely from my client vnc? Ques 2) When I try to launch the Solaris management console from vnc client it shows the initial splash window of the management console but does not actually show the management console window or may be it does not even start? Appreciate help in this regard. Thanks, Shashi Kanth From elroyskimms@yahoo.com Wed Aug 2 18:07:03 2006 From: elroyskimms@yahoo.com (Aaron Asbra) Date: Wed Aug 2 17:07:03 2006 Subject: Problem: IP Address Authentication Message-ID: <20060802160548.75339.qmail@web51812.mail.yahoo.com> I have several VNC servers configured, all running the latest version (upgraded for the known security flaw). All are configured to allow incoming connections only from certain IP subnets. For example: 10.1.2.0/255.255.255.0 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0 192.168.2.0/255.255.255.0 These settings work fine. The problem is when I try and connect from home, using a dynamic IP. My DSL subnet is 75.0.0.0, so I've added 75.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 to the allowed IP list but I get the "The connection Closed unexpectedly" message. If I add my exact IP address (75.1.2.3/255.255.255.255), I am able to connect in. That is the only change I have to make before I can connect. Once my IP changes (DSL modem power loss), I cannot connect unless I add my new IP address even though it is in the same subnet (75.0.0.0). Please help! -E __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jnw@realvnc.com Wed Aug 2 18:33:00 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Wed Aug 2 17:33:00 2006 Subject: Wishes: Announcement of new versions In-Reply-To: <44D0B2D8.3050906@nolog.org> Message-ID: <014301c6b651$4c41e170$6600a8c0@sturton.local> Hi "Gti", New minor versions of VNC Enterprise and Personal Editions are normally announced to customers of those products shortly after each release. Only major versions will normally be announced to the vnc-announce list, along with VNC Free Edition announcements and the like. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of virus@nolog.org > Sent: 02 August 2006 15:13 > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Re: Wishes: Announcement of new versions > > Hello, > > William Hooper wrote: > > You missed something. > > > > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-announce > > first thought: Oops! I'm already subscribed to that list, am I that > stupid that I have read an announcement of VNC Enterprise > Edition 4.2.5 > but already forgot it? No, I am not ;) > > Just took a look at the archive and couldn't find an > announcement of VNC > Enterprise Edition 4.2.6. The last announcement - the only > one this year > - was from Mon May 15 12:37:39 2006, but version 4.2.6 is definetly > newer and was not announced there. > > Will new versions containing security fixes not be announced? > I thought > they would, since on http://www.realvnc.com/lists.html there I found: > "The VNC Announcements List is a moderated forum for occasional > important announcements such as the release of a new version of VNC." > > The question now: What is a "new version"? A change in the version > number X.X.X to X.X.Y shows, in my opinion, a new version. Am > I wrong here? > > GTi > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From jnw@realvnc.com Wed Aug 2 18:35:01 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Wed Aug 2 17:35:01 2006 Subject: Real VNC 4.2.6 and TightVNC 1.2.2 give same problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <014401c6b651$8ef05880$6600a8c0@sturton.local> Shashi, Please submit VNC Enterprise Edition support requests via the inline support form. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Shashi Kanth > Durgavajjhala > Sent: 02 August 2006 16:42 > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Real VNC 4.2.6 and TightVNC 1.2.2 give same problem > > Hi, I use VNC 4.2.6 for accessing Solaris 8 server from > Windows XP pc. > > my vnc started automatically on display 4 (X:4) and so I > use the same > to connect from client (ip address:4). > > It opens up the window but its not the actual screen > that is open on > the console (server) as it seems to open a virtual desktop. > > Ques 1) How do I get to control the console screen as it > is remotely > from my client vnc? > > Ques 2) When I try to launch the Solaris management > console from vnc > client it shows the initial splash window of the > management console > but does not actually show the management console window > or may be it > does not even start? > > Appreciate help in this regard. > > Thanks, > > Shashi Kanth > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From jnw@realvnc.com Wed Aug 2 18:38:00 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Wed Aug 2 17:38:00 2006 Subject: Error 10061 - Connection refused - Some info that may help In-Reply-To: <003601c6b645$be57c6a0$6701a8c0@PEARSON> Message-ID: <014501c6b651$e27eba00$6600a8c0@sturton.local> Stuart, What makes you think that something else was responding to requests, other than VNC server? It seems clear from the error code you were getting that the problem was that VNC server was running, so your server computer was simply rejecting the connections. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of 121@blueyonder.co.uk > Sent: 02 August 2006 16:10 > To: vnc > Subject: Error 10061 - Connection refused - Some info that may help > > I use the freeware version of realVNC to monitor a PC running > some CCTV > capture software connected to a linksys router using a > wireless adaptor. > The software on the server PC is windows 98, the viewer PC is > running XP. > Today when I tried to get connected to the server pc I > received the Error > 10061 message. > After examining some of the posts relating to this problem on > the vnc-list I > tried varoius options on my router (i.e port forwarding, DMZ > etc) to no > avail. > To help analyse the problem I downloaded and used a freeware > IP packet sniffer > program. (http://www.plasticwater.com/PlasticSniffer/) > This software identified that the server PC was responding to > messages from > the viewer PC, with the server sending the messages on port > 5900 to the viewer > PC initially on port 2785. Each time I attempted to make the > connection the > port on the viewer pc the message was sent to was incremented > by 1. i.e. 2786, > 2787, 2788 ........ > I checked that this port incrementation occured for 5 > successive attempts. > It looked like the server PC was respoding but didn't know > where to send the > message. On checking the server pc I discovered the problem, > the VNC service > was not configured or running. After selecting the configure > and then the > start service options I was able to access the server pc with > no difficulties. > It appears that although the server pc was not running the > service there must > have something that was stil resident that was responding to > my initial > requests. > > Hope its of some help to others experiencing this problem. > > Stuart > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From jnw@realvnc.com Wed Aug 2 18:41:01 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Wed Aug 2 17:41:01 2006 Subject: using VNC display(s) to generate images on a webserver In-Reply-To: <200608021415.k72EFa0L017696@beta.mvs.co.il> Message-ID: <014601c6b652$2af5c080$6600a8c0@sturton.local> Ehud, Out of interest, why do you need a -viewonly argument, if you're never going to use the actual VNC functionality of the server? Why not just disable incoming VNC connections instead? Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Ehud Karni > Sent: 02 August 2006 15:16 > To: throopw@sheol.org > Cc: paul.robins@st.com; throopw@sheol.org; > larry.brigman@gmail.com; vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Re: using VNC display(s) to generate images on a webserver > > On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:21:41 Wayne Throop wrote: > > > > : Paul ROBINS > > : I'm a bit surprised that there have been no other > responses :( Xvnc > > : initally seems very nice to use as a virtual display for > running in > > : batch or cgi X11 apps that need a display. It's a real > shame that you > > : can't control it a bit more :( > > > > But more importantly, I'd suggest using Xvfb instead. This task is > > pretty much what it's specialized for, and it won't do any > extra work > > at all besides the X rendering on a bitmap. It should be > lightweight > > enough you can just start it for each client request, or so > I suspect. > > If not, you'd still have collision and timeout issues just > like Xvnc, > > but they should be addressable the same ways. And it's part of the > > standard X.org release (and Xfree86 before it). > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xvfb > > > > Note that, if you need to take a peek at the screen, or even use > > mouse and keyboard at it for debugging, you can use x11vnc > or x0vncserver > > to treat it as a vnc server for debugging, without having > any vnc access > > overhead during normal operation. > > Pardon me for getting to this thread in the middle. I have to > disagree. > I use VNC for display purpose for over 5 years, also on a web page. > > Here is what I do: > 1. Create a virtual X by using a modified vncserver script with > 3 important arguments: -alwaysshared -dontdisconnect -viewonly > (for the -viewonly argument which uses my view-only patch, see: > http://realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2000-July/015830.html, > http://www.tightvnc.com/whatsnew.html [under 1.2.5] ). > > 2. Run the needed applications (xload, xterm+top, xclock, etc.) > with display set to the virtual X created in {1}. > > 3. I use import (from the ImageMagick package) to convert the > virtual X to png like this: > import -display vncs:3 -silent -window root vnc-3.png > > 4. Since my web server is across the Atlantic, I use ftp to copy > this png to the remote server. > > You can see the result (updated every 5 minutes) at: > http://t-e-k.biz/VNC/vnc_load.html . > > Hint. You can use xsri (available on GNU/Linux and Cygwin) to set > the background of the virtual X created by VNC. > I use: xsri --tile=bg.png --set > > Ehud. > > > -- > Ehud Karni Tel: +972-3-7966-561 /"\ > Mivtach - Simon Fax: +972-3-7966-667 \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign > Insurance agencies (USA) voice mail and X Against HTML Mail > http://www.mvs.co.il FAX: 1-815-5509341 / \ > GnuPG: 98EA398D Better Safe Than Sorry > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From jnw@realvnc.com Wed Aug 2 18:56:06 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Wed Aug 2 17:56:06 2006 Subject: Using VNC & RemoteDesktop simulatneously In-Reply-To: <7F5DF1ABF6B0864F88C9682DC23A270B6F0EBC@pascal.zaphodb.org> Message-ID: <014c01c6b654$83024530$6600a8c0@sturton.local> Hi Tomas, Sounds like there's something funny go on on your system, causing VNC server to crash. What is logged in the Application Event Log? Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: Tomas L. Byrnes [mailto:tomb@byrneit.net] > Sent: 02 August 2006 16:54 > To: James Weatherall > Subject: RE: Using VNC & RemoteDesktop simulatneously > > It simply doesn't work. It installs, looks like it is going > to work, and > then, when you make the first connection, it connects, then promptly > disconnects, and you can't connect at all thereafter. > > I posted about this to the list about a month ago. > > Tried this in both the freeware and the enterprise (trial) version. > > I'd be happy to buy an enterprise license if it worked > (although this is > for a non-profit). > > Great product, I love the cross platform nature of it. > > Use it on Windows, Mac, and Linux. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: James Weatherall [mailto:jnw@realvnc.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 1:46 AM > To: Tomas L. Byrnes; 'KK'; vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: RE: Using VNC & RemoteDesktop simulatneously > > > BTW: I PREFER VNC, but can't get it to work on a 64bit > platform. Any > > word on 64 bit VNC???? > > Can you elaborate on "can't get it to work"? > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. From ehud@unix.mvs.co.il Wed Aug 2 19:28:01 2006 From: ehud@unix.mvs.co.il (Ehud Karni) Date: Wed Aug 2 18:28:01 2006 Subject: using VNC display(s) to generate images on a webserver In-Reply-To: <014601c6b652$2af5c080$6600a8c0@sturton.local> (message from James Weatherall on Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:39:03 +0100) References: <014601c6b652$2af5c080$6600a8c0@sturton.local> Message-ID: <200608021727.k72HRFM1020039@beta.mvs.co.il> On Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:39:03 +0100, James Weatherall wrote: > > Out of interest, why do you need a -viewonly argument, if you're never going > to use the actual VNC functionality of the server? Why not just disable > incoming VNC connections instead? There is a misunderstanding. The virtual X display created by the VNC on Linux is served to many clients (mostly M$ windows) simultaneously. The view only argument saves me from using an intermediate server just to prevent user from interfering with the display. Ehud. -- Ehud Karni Tel: +972-3-7966-561 /"\ Mivtach - Simon Fax: +972-3-7966-667 \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign Insurance agencies (USA) voice mail and X Against HTML Mail http://www.mvs.co.il FAX: 1-815-5509341 / \ GnuPG: 98EA398D Better Safe Than Sorry From bim2006@basistech.com Wed Aug 2 21:24:00 2006 From: bim2006@basistech.com (Benson Margulies) Date: Wed Aug 2 20:24:00 2006 Subject: Using VNC & RemoteDesktop simulatneously In-Reply-To: <014c01c6b654$83024530$6600a8c0@sturton.local> Message-ID: Perhaps he's found the same storage corruption problem that two of us have complained of when using Eclipse 3.2? -----Original Message----- From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of James Weatherall Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 12:56 PM To: 'Tomas L. Byrnes' Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: Using VNC & RemoteDesktop simulatneously Hi Tomas, Sounds like there's something funny go on on your system, causing VNC server to crash. What is logged in the Application Event Log? Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: Tomas L. Byrnes [mailto:tomb@byrneit.net] > Sent: 02 August 2006 16:54 > To: James Weatherall > Subject: RE: Using VNC & RemoteDesktop simulatneously > > It simply doesn't work. It installs, looks like it is going > to work, and > then, when you make the first connection, it connects, then promptly > disconnects, and you can't connect at all thereafter. > > I posted about this to the list about a month ago. > > Tried this in both the freeware and the enterprise (trial) version. > > I'd be happy to buy an enterprise license if it worked > (although this is > for a non-profit). > > Great product, I love the cross platform nature of it. > > Use it on Windows, Mac, and Linux. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: James Weatherall [mailto:jnw@realvnc.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 1:46 AM > To: Tomas L. Byrnes; 'KK'; vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: RE: Using VNC & RemoteDesktop simulatneously > > > BTW: I PREFER VNC, but can't get it to work on a 64bit > platform. Any > > word on 64 bit VNC???? > > Can you elaborate on "can't get it to work"? > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. _______________________________________________ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From throopw@sheol.org Wed Aug 2 22:44:00 2006 From: throopw@sheol.org (Wayne Throop) Date: Wed Aug 2 21:44:00 2006 Subject: using VNC display(s) to generate images on a webserver In-Reply-To: <200608021415.k72EFa0L017696@beta.mvs.co.il> Message-ID: <1154550581@sheol.org> : "Ehud Karni" : I have to disagree. I'm not sure I understand what you are disagreeing with. My suggestion was that Xvfb would suffice. Is that what you are disagreeing with, or some other point? Because I don't see anything vnc-specific in your list of steps (below). They would all work with Xvfb. What am I missing? That is, who's connecting to it via the rfb protocol; none of the steps show that, near as I can tell. Mind you, there's nothing particularly *wrong* about doing it that way. Xvnc is a perfectly wonderful tool. I'm just saying I don't see anything vnc specific below. : I use VNC for display purpose for over 5 years, also on a web page. : : Here is what I do: : 1. Create a virtual X by using a modified vncserver script with : 3 important arguments: -alwaysshared -dontdisconnect -viewonly : (for the -viewonly argument which uses my view-only patch, see: : http://realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2000-July/015830.html, : http://www.tightvnc.com/whatsnew.html [under 1.2.5] ). : : 2. Run the needed applications (xload, xterm+top, xclock, etc.) : with display set to the virtual X created in {1}. : : 3. I use import (from the ImageMagick package) to convert the : virtual X to png like this: : import -display vncs:3 -silent -window root vnc-3.png : : 4. Since my web server is across the Atlantic, I use ftp to copy : this png to the remote server. : : You can see the result (updated every 5 minutes) at: : http://t-e-k.biz/VNC/vnc_load.html . : : Hint. You can use xsri (available on GNU/Linux and Cygwin) to set : the background of the virtual X created by VNC. : I use: xsri --tile=bg.png --set Wayne Throop throopw@sheol.org From raj@ap.krakow.pl Wed Aug 2 23:38:00 2006 From: raj@ap.krakow.pl (Jaroslaw Rafa) Date: Wed Aug 2 22:38:00 2006 Subject: Real VNC 4.2.6 and TightVNC 1.2.2 give same problem In-Reply-To: from Shashi Kanth Durgavajjhala at "Aug 2, 6 11:42:12 am" Message-ID: <200608022137.XAA25170@ultra.ap.krakow.pl> Shashi Kanth Durgavajjhala napisal(a): > Hi, I use VNC 4.2.6 for accessing Solaris 8 server from Windows XP pc. [...] > It opens up the window but its not the actual screen that is open on > the console (server) as it seems to open a virtual desktop. That's how VNC is supposed to work on Unix platform. It's in the FAQ. > Ques 1) How do I get to control the console screen as it is remotely > from my client vnc? Look in the FAQ for "remoting the :0 display". There is something called x0vncserver, you have to run it instead of a regular VNC server. > Ques 2) When I try to launch the Solaris management console from vnc > client it shows the initial splash window of the management console > but does not actually show the management console window or may be it > does not even start? I'm using SMC on Solaris 9 over VNC (on a virtual screen, the server does not have any physical display at all) and it works fine for me. Check the log files of SMC to see if it did start at all, and if not, if there are any errors. Regards, Jaroslaw Rafa raj@ap.krakow.pl -- Spam, wirusy, spyware... masz do6f? Jest alternatywa! http://www.firefox.pl/ --- http://www.thunderbird.pl/ Szybciej. #atwiej. Bezpieczniej. Internet tak jak lubisz. From alexp@broadcom.com Thu Aug 3 00:16:01 2006 From: alexp@broadcom.com (Alex Pelts) Date: Wed Aug 2 23:16:01 2006 Subject: Is is possible to compile latest VNC server with older X say 3.3.6? Message-ID: <44D123E3.1080204@broadcom.com> Hi, I am trying to compile latest vnc on older freebsd but it does not compile. Did anyone try to do this? That version of bsd has vnc 3.3.7 which compiles. Any pointers where to look? Regards, Alex From jason2@mcclellans.ca Thu Aug 3 03:18:03 2006 From: jason2@mcclellans.ca (jason2@mcclellans.ca) Date: Thu Aug 3 02:18:03 2006 Subject: Using VNC & RemoteDesktop simulatneously In-Reply-To: <004401c6b5ee$caa988f0$1e01a8c0@PF301> Message-ID: <002d01c6b69a$621d1610$6400a8c0@A3400> Krishna This is an intentional limitation of the Remote Desktop feature in Windows XP. It allows only a single session at a time, the intention being that it's purpose is for remote administration, or remote assistance only. If you are trying to use it as a terminal server (ie. Multiple clients), you are supposed to buy a terminal server, which does allow as many sessions as you have licensed CAL's. VNC will allow multiple sessions, there is a 'multiple viewer' option or something to that effect. Jason -----Original Message----- From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of KK Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 12:48 AM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Using VNC & RemoteDesktop simulatneously Dear All I'm having two networks N1 and N2 and both are interconnected over internet. Two system X & Y are connected to N1 and both are accessible with VNC to the system A which in N2. System Y is WindowsXP Professional and RemoteDesktop feature is enabled. System X is connected to System Y using RemoteDesktop. When I tried to connect to Y from A using VNC, the other running RemoteDesktop session is getting disconnected with message ('The Remote session was disconnected because another user has connected to the session") and vice versa. If both systems are trying to connect using VNC,it's perfectly alright. Can't we simultaneously connect to one system with both VNC & RemoteDesktop feature? What are the changes I need to do so that both can work simultaneously? Thanks in advance. Krishna Rao K Lucid Software Ltd | 104, NSIC STP Complex | Guindy Industrial Estate | Ekkattuthangal | Chennai 600032 ' +91 44 2225 2273 / 76 , +91 98407 28998 _______________________________________________ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From mattvnc@mathomat.net Thu Aug 3 04:00:01 2006 From: mattvnc@mathomat.net (Matt Eckhaus) Date: Thu Aug 3 03:00:01 2006 Subject: Connecting to AdderLink IP from OS X intel Message-ID: <91d1a04a0608021859j5a4f4ff9yfad92c40ae5f912f@mail.gmail.com> We are using an AdderLink IP server and connecting from OS X clients. Chicken of the VNC does not work, with or without encryption. The current RealVNC enterprise client does not run on Intel. At the moment our only recourse is to use the java client, which is useable but it has two problems: (1) excessive CPU usage, (2) it does not scale. Can you tell me if there are plans to release the Enterprise RealVNC client for Intel macs? If not are there any other alternative OS X clients which will work with the AdderLink IP? Thanks, Matt From virus@nolog.org Thu Aug 3 09:24:01 2006 From: virus@nolog.org (virus@nolog.org) Date: Thu Aug 3 08:24:01 2006 Subject: Wishes: Announcement of new versions In-Reply-To: <014301c6b651$4c41e170$6600a8c0@sturton.local> References: <014301c6b651$4c41e170$6600a8c0@sturton.local> Message-ID: <44D1A47E.7040205@nolog.org> Hello James, James Weatherall wrote: > New minor versions of VNC Enterprise and Personal Editions are normally > announced to customers of those products shortly after each release. Only > major versions will normally be announced to the vnc-announce list, along > with VNC Free Edition announcements and the like. thanks for the information. Would be nice to find that information on your web page in the future to avoid misunderstandings. Or even better if you would announce any new version - there's not that much traffic on the vnc-announce list to be disturbed... GTi P.S.: I'm called Tino and GTi is for 'Greetings, Tino' ;) From paul.robins@st.com Thu Aug 3 11:44:01 2006 From: paul.robins@st.com (Paul ROBINS) Date: Thu Aug 3 10:44:01 2006 Subject: using VNC display(s) to generate images on a webserver In-Reply-To: <1154550581@sheol.org> References: <1154550581@sheol.org> Message-ID: <44D1C197.1010306@st.com> Thanks for the various posts on this topic but unfortunately none of the suggestions cover my original problem and seem to have missed the point a bit ;) which was to find a way to quietly close down an instance of Xvnc after a perdiod of inactivity. Regarding the suggestions; Xvfb. I used this for several years on other systems but I don't have it easily available on the platform I have here (Solaris 8) and I don't have root access to the system, which is pretty much needed if you want to make a sane installation of Xvfb on this platform. I also need to export my image generation code to other hosts, where I don't have root access either. Thats one reason why VNC is attractive - it's easier to install and configure. Another is that an Xvnc server is nice and simple to use/monitor during the testing phase. Regarding the decription of how to run a kind of batch screen capture system using a single Xvnc display, plus ImageMagick, etc. That's not at all what I'm doing. In my case the images are generated on the fly based on what the users select in the browser. At any time 'n' different users may generate any one of many thousands of possible images from data files that are updated constantly - I can't do batch processing and I dont need any kind of capture software, my own program does this just fine. I do need multiple displays (Xvnc servers) to cope with all the requests, and a way to close them down. As I've still not found a solution then I guess I'm going to have to do it with a nasty hack - some kind of log of which servers are running and which haven't been used for a certain time, then kill them off and hope that someone wasn't using it. I was hoping to find a more elegant, automatic solution. Thanks Paul Wayne Throop wrote: > : "Ehud Karni" > : I have to disagree. > > I'm not sure I understand what you are disagreeing with. My suggestion > was that Xvfb would suffice. Is that what you are disagreeing with, or > some other point? Because I don't see anything vnc-specific in your > list of steps (below). They would all work with Xvfb. What am I missing? > That is, who's connecting to it via the rfb protocol; none of the steps > show that, near as I can tell. > > Mind you, there's nothing particularly *wrong* about doing it that way. > Xvnc is a perfectly wonderful tool. I'm just saying I don't see anything > vnc specific below. > > : I use VNC for display purpose for over 5 years, also on a web page. > : > : Here is what I do: > : 1. Create a virtual X by using a modified vncserver script with > : 3 important arguments: -alwaysshared -dontdisconnect -viewonly > : (for the -viewonly argument which uses my view-only patch, see: > : http://realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2000-July/015830.html, > : http://www.tightvnc.com/whatsnew.html [under 1.2.5] ). > : > : 2. Run the needed applications (xload, xterm+top, xclock, etc.) > : with display set to the virtual X created in {1}. > : > : 3. I use import (from the ImageMagick package) to convert the > : virtual X to png like this: > : import -display vncs:3 -silent -window root vnc-3.png > : > : 4. Since my web server is across the Atlantic, I use ftp to copy > : this png to the remote server. > : > : You can see the result (updated every 5 minutes) at: > : http://t-e-k.biz/VNC/vnc_load.html . > : > : Hint. You can use xsri (available on GNU/Linux and Cygwin) to set > : the background of the virtual X created by VNC. > : I use: xsri --tile=bg.png --set > > > Wayne Throop throopw@sheol.org > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From jnw@realvnc.com Thu Aug 3 12:40:01 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Thu Aug 3 11:40:01 2006 Subject: Connecting to AdderLink IP from OS X intel In-Reply-To: <91d1a04a0608021859j5a4f4ff9yfad92c40ae5f912f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002d01c6b6e9$195d54e0$6600a8c0@sturton.local> Hi Matt, We currently have VNC Viewer Enterprise Edition for Mac OS X (PPC), which is fully compatible with the AdderLink IP product, available as a beta-release at http://www.realvnc.com/products/beta/macosx This beta-release will also work on Mac OS X (Intel) systems, albeit under PPC emulation. A native VNC Viewer Enterprise Edition for Mac OS X (Intel) release is in development. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Matt Eckhaus > Sent: 03 August 2006 03:00 > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Connecting to AdderLink IP from OS X intel > > We are using an AdderLink IP server and connecting from OS X clients. > Chicken of the VNC does not work, with or without encryption. > The current > RealVNC enterprise client does not run on Intel. At the > moment our only > recourse is to use the java client, which is useable but it has two > problems: (1) excessive CPU usage, (2) it does not scale. > > Can you tell me if there are plans to release the Enterprise > RealVNC client > for Intel macs? If not are there any other alternative OS X > clients which > will work with the AdderLink IP? > > Thanks, > Matt > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From jnw@realvnc.com Thu Aug 3 12:42:01 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Thu Aug 3 11:42:01 2006 Subject: Is is possible to compile latest VNC server with older X say 3.3.6? In-Reply-To: <44D123E3.1080204@broadcom.com> Message-ID: <002e01c6b6e9$64ecbef0$6600a8c0@sturton.local> Hi Alex, Have you tried building XFree86 4.2.1 on the FreeBSD system in question? If you can build that, then you can build VNC against it and use that on the FreeBSD system. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Alex Pelts > Sent: 02 August 2006 23:15 > To: RealVNC List (E-mail) > Subject: Is is possible to compile latest VNC server with > older X say 3.3.6? > > Hi, > I am trying to compile latest vnc on older freebsd but it does not > compile. Did anyone try to do this? That version of bsd has vnc 3.3.7 > which compiles. > > Any pointers where to look? > > Regards, > Alex > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From jnw@realvnc.com Thu Aug 3 12:46:02 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Thu Aug 3 11:46:02 2006 Subject: Using VNC & RemoteDesktop simulatneously In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002f01c6b6e9$ee648c80$6600a8c0@sturton.local> Hi Benson, You may wish to check how Eclipse behaves under VNC Enterprise Edition E4.2.6, which has new framebuffer-handling code compared to the current Free Edition release. If I remember correctly, the Eclipse problems that were reported last year were specific to particular versions of Eclipse on specific versions of Sun's JRE, triggering a bug in some core X server framebuffer code. Cheers, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Benson Margulies > Sent: 02 August 2006 20:24 > To: James Weatherall; Tomas L. Byrnes > Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: RE: Using VNC & RemoteDesktop simulatneously > > Perhaps he's found the same storage corruption problem that two of us > have complained of when using Eclipse 3.2? > > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On > Behalf Of James Weatherall > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 12:56 PM > To: 'Tomas L. Byrnes' > Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: RE: Using VNC & RemoteDesktop simulatneously > > Hi Tomas, > > Sounds like there's something funny go on on your system, causing VNC > server > to crash. What is logged in the Application Event Log? > > Regards, > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tomas L. Byrnes [mailto:tomb@byrneit.net] > > Sent: 02 August 2006 16:54 > > To: James Weatherall > > Subject: RE: Using VNC & RemoteDesktop simulatneously > > > > It simply doesn't work. It installs, looks like it is going > > to work, and > > then, when you make the first connection, it connects, then promptly > > disconnects, and you can't connect at all thereafter. > > > > I posted about this to the list about a month ago. > > > > Tried this in both the freeware and the enterprise (trial) version. > > > > I'd be happy to buy an enterprise license if it worked > > (although this is > > for a non-profit). > > > > Great product, I love the cross platform nature of it. > > > > Use it on Windows, Mac, and Linux. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: James Weatherall [mailto:jnw@realvnc.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 1:46 AM > > To: Tomas L. Byrnes; 'KK'; vnc-list@realvnc.com > > Subject: RE: Using VNC & RemoteDesktop simulatneously > > > > > BTW: I PREFER VNC, but can't get it to work on a 64bit > > platform. Any > > > word on 64 bit VNC???? > > > > Can you elaborate on "can't get it to work"? > > > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From jnw@realvnc.com Thu Aug 3 12:48:00 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Thu Aug 3 11:48:00 2006 Subject: using VNC display(s) to generate images on a webserver In-Reply-To: <200608021727.k72HRFM1020039@beta.mvs.co.il> Message-ID: <003001c6b6ea$26c476d0$6600a8c0@sturton.local> Hi Ehud, Is there any reason why you don't just use the standard VNC Server options to disable user-input and get a view-only desktop? Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Ehud Karni > Sent: 02 August 2006 18:27 > To: jnw@realvnc.com > Cc: throopw@sheol.org; paul.robins@st.com; > larry.brigman@gmail.com; vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Re: using VNC display(s) to generate images on a webserver > > On Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:39:03 +0100, James Weatherall > wrote: > > > > Out of interest, why do you need a -viewonly argument, if > you're never going > > to use the actual VNC functionality of the server? Why not > just disable > > incoming VNC connections instead? > > There is a misunderstanding. The virtual X display created by > the VNC on > Linux is served to many clients (mostly M$ windows) simultaneously. > The view only argument saves me from using an intermediate server just > to prevent user from interfering with the display. > > Ehud. > > > -- > Ehud Karni Tel: +972-3-7966-561 /"\ > Mivtach - Simon Fax: +972-3-7966-667 \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign > Insurance agencies (USA) voice mail and X Against HTML Mail > http://www.mvs.co.il FAX: 1-815-5509341 / \ > GnuPG: 98EA398D Better Safe Than Sorry > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From jnw@realvnc.com Thu Aug 3 12:59:01 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Thu Aug 3 11:59:01 2006 Subject: using VNC display(s) to generate images on a webserver In-Reply-To: <44D1C197.1010306@st.com> Message-ID: <003101c6b6ea$e3a08c30$6600a8c0@sturton.local> > As I've still not found a solution then I guess I'm going to > have to do > it with a nasty hack - some kind of log of which servers are > running and > which haven't been used for a certain time, then kill them > off and hope > that someone wasn't using it. I was hoping to find a more elegant, > automatic solution. That's not a nasty hack, that's the right way to do it. Your system should keep track of the servers it's started, and when they last had requests run on them, and kill servers when they're no longer required. From the sounds of things, you don't even need a concept of a server being associated with a particular session - you can just regard them as a pool of displays for doing the "capture" process on, and remove & restore them from/to the pool before & after processing a request, and add & remove servers as the pool becomes empty, or idle for prolonged periods, respectively. Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. From edranem@dranem.org Thu Aug 3 14:37:01 2006 From: edranem@dranem.org (evets dranem) Date: Thu Aug 3 13:37:01 2006 Subject: Real VNC 4.2.6 and TightVNC 1.2.2 give same problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44D1EDA5.8030801@dranem.org> >From a SSH Session I tried to start x0rfbserver and it told me I couldn't so I checked the variables in the X sesion with evets:> set and saw DISPLAY=:0 When I checked the SSH Session there was no DISPLAY So I typed export DISPLAY=:0 then x0rfbserver SURPRSINGLY IT WORKED LIKE A CHARM of course this was mandrake linux and the same user held the session credentials so if my user owns the main Xsession I can take it over EXCEPT that x0rfbserver needs to be configured ONCE from the main display 8-) although if I can put an ~/.x0rfbserver file that is setup I'm in ;-) Shashi Kanth Durgavajjhala wrote: > Hi, I use VNC 4.2.6 for accessing Solaris 8 server from Windows XP pc. > > my vnc started automatically on display 4 (X:4) and so I use the same > to connect from client (ip address:4). > > It opens up the window but its not the actual screen that is open on > the console (server) as it seems to open a virtual desktop. > > Ques 1) How do I get to control the console screen as it is remotely > from my client vnc? > > Ques 2) When I try to launch the Solaris management console from vnc > client it shows the initial splash window of the management console > but does not actually show the management console window or may be it > does not even start? > > Appreciate help in this regard. > > Thanks, > > Shashi Kanth >_______________________________________________ >VNC-List mailing list >VNC-List@realvnc.com >To remove yourself from the list visit: >http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From ehud@unix.mvs.co.il Thu Aug 3 14:52:01 2006 From: ehud@unix.mvs.co.il (Ehud Karni) Date: Thu Aug 3 13:52:01 2006 Subject: using VNC display(s) to generate images on a webserver In-Reply-To: <1154550581@sheol.org> (throopw@sheol.org) References: <1154550581@sheol.org> Message-ID: <200608031250.k73ComZd010357@beta.mvs.co.il> On Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:43:24 (Wayne Throop) wrote: > > I'm not sure I understand what you are disagreeing with. My suggestion > was that Xvfb would suffice. Is that what you are disagreeing with, or > some other point? Because I don't see anything vnc-specific in your > list of steps (below). They would all work with Xvfb. What am I missing? > That is, who's connecting to it via the rfb protocol; none of the steps > show that, near as I can tell. As I said, I entered this in the middle. I disagreed with the (false) notion that you can't use virtual X created by VNC for generating X windows graphs (and other displays) and copy them to web page. I later understood that the original poster knew this and his problem was about reusing the virtual displays. Sorry for noise. Ehud. -- Ehud Karni Tel: +972-3-7966-561 /"\ Mivtach - Simon Fax: +972-3-7966-667 \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign Insurance agencies (USA) voice mail and X Against HTML Mail http://www.mvs.co.il FAX: 1-815-5509341 / \ GnuPG: 98EA398D Better Safe Than Sorry From ehud@unix.mvs.co.il Thu Aug 3 15:08:01 2006 From: ehud@unix.mvs.co.il (Ehud Karni) Date: Thu Aug 3 14:08:01 2006 Subject: using VNC display(s) to generate images on a webserver In-Reply-To: <003001c6b6ea$26c476d0$6600a8c0@sturton.local> (message from James Weatherall on Thu, 3 Aug 2006 11:47:00 +0100) References: <003001c6b6ea$26c476d0$6600a8c0@sturton.local> Message-ID: <200608031307.k73D7gth018956@beta.mvs.co.il> On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 11:47:00 James Weatherall wrote: > > Is there any reason why you don't just use the standard VNC Server options > to disable user-input and get a view-only desktop? I assume you mean the `-AcceptPointerEvents' and `-AcceptKeyEvents' options, Yes, they do exactly what my `-viewonly' does. At the time I wrote the view-only patch (July 2000) those options did not exist. I used it since then, I'll use these options when I'll update my systems. Ehud. -- Ehud Karni Tel: +972-3-7966-561 /"\ Mivtach - Simon Fax: +972-3-7966-667 \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign Insurance agencies (USA) voice mail and X Against HTML Mail http://www.mvs.co.il FAX: 1-815-5509341 / \ GnuPG: 98EA398D Better Safe Than Sorry From paul.robins@st.com Thu Aug 3 16:15:01 2006 From: paul.robins@st.com (Paul ROBINS) Date: Thu Aug 3 15:15:01 2006 Subject: using VNC display(s) to generate images on a webserver In-Reply-To: <003101c6b6ea$e3a08c30$6600a8c0@sturton.local> References: <003101c6b6ea$e3a08c30$6600a8c0@sturton.local> Message-ID: <44D2001A.5020803@st.com> James Weatherall wrote: >> As I've still not found a solution then I guess I'm going to >> have to do >> it with a nasty hack - some kind of log of which servers are >> running and >> which haven't been used for a certain time, then kill them >> off and hope >> that someone wasn't using it. I was hoping to find a more elegant, >> automatic solution. > > That's not a nasty hack, that's the right way to do it. > > Your system should keep track of the servers it's started, and when they > last had requests run on them, and kill servers when they're no longer > required. From the sounds of things, you don't even need a concept of a > server being associated with a particular session - you can just regard them > as a pool of displays for doing the "capture" process on, and remove & > restore them from/to the pool before & after processing a request, and add & > remove servers as the pool becomes empty, or idle for prolonged periods, > respectively. > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > Well, it is bit nasty.. or inconvenient at least in the context from which this is being run, i.e. asynchronous requests from a web server. You could say I'm being lazy and I suppose you'd be right. I'll have to a create an Xvnc activity/logging/cleanup daemon to handle all this, which is a drag (I don't have root access, nor cron, and I'll have to move all this to other servers). Either that or I call all the maintenance tasks with each users image request, which sounds like it could get heavy (race conditions etc). The pool of servers idea sounds nice and I had thought of something like that to try to maintain say 20 servers running at any one time. However how can I know which one in the pool isn't busy and hasn't just been bagged by another user? ah, I see, I'll have to manage that too. All this would be *so* much easier if I could just launch an Xvnc server for each user session that quietly went away after n minutes of inactivity. Oh well, never mind. Thanks anyway. Paul From Palmer.Hilary@mayo.edu Thu Aug 3 20:32:01 2006 From: Palmer.Hilary@mayo.edu (Palmer, Hilary) Date: Thu Aug 3 19:32:01 2006 Subject: Multiple VNC Sessions/One Point of Connection Message-ID: <356F0F57A3DDA74AB82A97BFEDE8BBAA03D54627@LMMAILVS1.ad.lmmhs.org> Hello, This is what I am trying to attempt; hopefully someone can help me out. I need to have something setup where I can have multiple VNC sessions running to display an application that runs on Linux. The users that I am dealing with are Doctors so I don't want much interaction from them to get connected. Nobody will have a specific display number to connect to (i.e.: Doctor A connects to myserver:1.0 or Doctor B connects to myserver:2.0), so I need it to either dynamically connect to an available display or start a new display and connect to that display. The other requirement is that I can get this to run from any PC the Doctor is at. I have ideas how to do it via the Web Browser, but the problem is the "VNC viewer for Java" window stays up, plus the "Connection Details" window pops up. I am not having a password to connect because the application will have the authentication that I need, so I do not need to worry about the password window popping up. I already attempted to run the Java Class in my own HTML code but I get noinit errors. My other idea is to run VNCViewer on Citrix and have one entry point such as "myserver:1.0" so I only need one config file, but in reality something is port forwarding to an available display or a new display. So I could actually be connected to "myserver:5.0". Clear as mud? Any ideas? Thanks! Hil ********************Confidentiality Notice******************** This message is intended for the sole use of the individual and entity to whom it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this email message, including any attachment, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please advise the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. Thank you. From bryan_carey8@hotmail.com Thu Aug 3 22:34:00 2006 From: bryan_carey8@hotmail.com (Bryan Carey) Date: Thu Aug 3 21:34:00 2006 Subject: Connect from any IP Message-ID: Okay so I read that the default is to allow any IP address to connect to the VNC server without putting their IP in the Properties > Connections tab, how do I restore this default? (I ask because I have no connections in that list and users cannot connect to the server with me adding their IPs to that list) _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From dure@wapello.k12.ia.us Thu Aug 3 23:19:00 2006 From: dure@wapello.k12.ia.us (David Ure) Date: Thu Aug 3 22:19:00 2006 Subject: Mac to Mac Message-ID: <0A847014-EE8A-4A19-A9A2-48BC88416886@wapello.k12.ia.us> I'm using the free version of RealVNC. On my PowerBook G4 I can use it to peer into any PC I put RealVNC on. It's been a genuine pleasure to access PCs as easily as I do my Macs with Apple's Remote Desktop and being allowed to work with the user as they are logged in simultaneously. However, when I try to use the same beta version of RVNC on another Mac that I use on my PowerBook, I get an incompatible version error when I try to access the remote Mac. Right now, you're probably asking yourself, "Why's he need RVNC when he's got ARD for this task?" The reason is this: I can only control one Mac at a time with ARD, and there are times I would like to have a second window open controlling a second machine. Had an example of this just the other day. Our agriculture teacher, one of my power users, was having difficulty accessing most of his files on our server--most but not, which was driving me crazy as you can imagine. It would have saved a lot of time if I could have had one window open in ARD to change settings on the server and watch the results--and also have a window open where I could both watch and control the computer he was on. I could have done so if he were on a PC using RVNC, but I can't with it installed on a Mac. Any thoughts as to what I'm doing wrong? For what I need and am doing with RVNC, the setup seemed awfully simple and straightforward, which is one of the reasons RVNC has been such a joy to use. Is it because the software's beta? All help will be appreciated. My thanks to you all, David Ure, Technology Coordinator Wapello Community School District 501 Buchanan Avenue Wapello, Iowa 52653 319-527-1209, fax: 319-523-4408 dure@wapello.k12.ia.us Skype: davidure "If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich." -- JFK Inaugural Address From jnw@realvnc.com Fri Aug 4 12:25:01 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Fri Aug 4 11:25:01 2006 Subject: Mac to Mac In-Reply-To: <0A847014-EE8A-4A19-A9A2-48BC88416886@wapello.k12.ia.us> Message-ID: <000001c6b7b0$34ba4eb0$06000100@sturton.local> Hi David, Please specify the precise error message you're getting, and the versions of VNC viewer & server that you're using. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of David Ure > Sent: 03 August 2006 22:18 > To: VNC-List@realvnc.com > Subject: Mac to Mac > > I'm using the free version of RealVNC. On my PowerBook G4 I can use > it to peer into any PC I put RealVNC on. It's been a genuine > pleasure > to access PCs as easily as I do my Macs with Apple's Remote Desktop > and being allowed to work with the user as they are logged in > simultaneously. > > However, when I try to use the same beta version of RVNC on another > Mac that I use on my PowerBook, I get an incompatible version error > when I try to access the remote Mac. Right now, you're probably > asking yourself, "Why's he need RVNC when he's got ARD for this task?" > > The reason is this: I can only control one Mac at a time with ARD, > and there are times I would like to have a second window open > controlling a second machine. Had an example of this just the other > day. Our agriculture teacher, one of my power users, was having > difficulty accessing most of his files on our server--most but not, > which was driving me crazy as you can imagine. It would have saved a > lot of time if I could have had one window open in ARD to change > settings on the server and watch the results--and also have a window > open where I could both watch and control the computer he was on. > > I could have done so if he were on a PC using RVNC, but I can't with > it installed on a Mac. > > Any thoughts as to what I'm doing wrong? For what I need and > am doing > with RVNC, the setup seemed awfully simple and > straightforward, which > is one of the reasons RVNC has been such a joy to use. Is it because > the software's beta? All help will be appreciated. > > My thanks to you all, > > > David Ure, Technology Coordinator > Wapello Community School District > 501 Buchanan Avenue > Wapello, Iowa 52653 > 319-527-1209, fax: 319-523-4408 > dure@wapello.k12.ia.us > Skype: davidure > > "If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save > the few who are rich." -- JFK Inaugural Address > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From dr_humair786@yahoo.com Fri Aug 4 12:38:15 2006 From: dr_humair786@yahoo.com (humair rasool) Date: Fri Aug 4 11:38:15 2006 Subject: Request for solution Message-ID: <20060804103537.71209.qmail@web34602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> dear sir there is one question arises druing urs vnc documentation studying this is "Can VNC view video files from one computer to the other ?" (e.g server runs on one computer and viewer runs other client on server side there is running movie can a viewer see movie?) your quick response will appritiate for me thanks & best regards Humair Rasool --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. From dure@wapello.k12.ia.us Fri Aug 4 19:37:01 2006 From: dure@wapello.k12.ia.us (David Ure) Date: Fri Aug 4 18:37:01 2006 Subject: Mac to Mac In-Reply-To: <000001c6b7b0$34ba4eb0$06000100@sturton.local> References: <000001c6b7b0$34ba4eb0$06000100@sturton.local> Message-ID: <16998367-342F-4494-B46A-BE937C3496CA@wapello.k12.ia.us> The version info is as follows: [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of Picture 1.png] The error message is [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of Picture 2.png] David Ure On Aug 4, 2006, at 5:24 AM, James Weatherall wrote: > Hi David, > > Please specify the precise error message you're getting, and the > versions of > VNC viewer & server that you're using. > > Regards, > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com >> [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of David Ure >> Sent: 03 August 2006 22:18 >> To: VNC-List@realvnc.com >> Subject: Mac to Mac >> >> I'm using the free version of RealVNC. On my PowerBook G4 I can use >> it to peer into any PC I put RealVNC on. It's been a genuine >> pleasure >> to access PCs as easily as I do my Macs with Apple's Remote Desktop >> and being allowed to work with the user as they are logged in >> simultaneously. >> >> However, when I try to use the same beta version of RVNC on another >> Mac that I use on my PowerBook, I get an incompatible version error >> when I try to access the remote Mac. Right now, you're probably >> asking yourself, "Why's he need RVNC when he's got ARD for this >> task?" >> >> The reason is this: I can only control one Mac at a time with ARD, >> and there are times I would like to have a second window open >> controlling a second machine. Had an example of this just the other >> day. Our agriculture teacher, one of my power users, was having >> difficulty accessing most of his files on our server--most but not, >> which was driving me crazy as you can imagine. It would have saved a >> lot of time if I could have had one window open in ARD to change >> settings on the server and watch the results--and also have a window >> open where I could both watch and control the computer he was on. >> >> I could have done so if he were on a PC using RVNC, but I can't with >> it installed on a Mac. >> >> Any thoughts as to what I'm doing wrong? For what I need and >> am doing >> with RVNC, the setup seemed awfully simple and >> straightforward, which >> is one of the reasons RVNC has been such a joy to use. Is it because >> the software's beta? All help will be appreciated. >> >> My thanks to you all, >> >> >> David Ure, Technology Coordinator >> Wapello Community School District >> 501 Buchanan Avenue >> Wapello, Iowa 52653 >> 319-527-1209, fax: 319-523-4408 >> dure@wapello.k12.ia.us >> Skype: davidure >> >> "If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save >> the few who are rich." -- JFK Inaugural Address >> _______________________________________________ >> VNC-List mailing list >> VNC-List@realvnc.com >> To remove yourself from the list visit: >> http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From dure@wapello.k12.ia.us Fri Aug 4 19:56:01 2006 From: dure@wapello.k12.ia.us (David Ure) Date: Fri Aug 4 18:56:01 2006 Subject: Mac to Mac In-Reply-To: <16998367-342F-4494-B46A-BE937C3496CA@wapello.k12.ia.us> References: <000001c6b7b0$34ba4eb0$06000100@sturton.local> <16998367-342F-4494-B46A-BE937C3496CA@wapello.k12.ia.us> Message-ID: <50251BA4-9BBB-4DE5-96C2-C58167A73A0F@wapello.k12.ia.us> Let me try this again. The version is Enterprise Edition E4.2beta5 The error message is Incompatible Version. That's all it says. Well, there is an OK button in the window. David Ure On Aug 4, 2006, at 12:36 PM, David Ure wrote: > The version info is as follows: > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a > name of Picture 1.png] > The error message is > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a > name of Picture 2.png] > David Ure > > > > On Aug 4, 2006, at 5:24 AM, James Weatherall wrote: > >> Hi David, >> >> Please specify the precise error message you're getting, and the >> versions of >> VNC viewer & server that you're using. >> >> Regards, >> >> Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com >>> [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of David Ure >>> Sent: 03 August 2006 22:18 >>> To: VNC-List@realvnc.com >>> Subject: Mac to Mac >>> >>> I'm using the free version of RealVNC. On my PowerBook G4 I can use >>> it to peer into any PC I put RealVNC on. It's been a genuine >>> pleasure >>> to access PCs as easily as I do my Macs with Apple's Remote Desktop >>> and being allowed to work with the user as they are logged in >>> simultaneously. >>> >>> However, when I try to use the same beta version of RVNC on another >>> Mac that I use on my PowerBook, I get an incompatible version error >>> when I try to access the remote Mac. Right now, you're probably >>> asking yourself, "Why's he need RVNC when he's got ARD for this >>> task?" >>> >>> The reason is this: I can only control one Mac at a time with ARD, >>> and there are times I would like to have a second window open >>> controlling a second machine. Had an example of this just the other >>> day. Our agriculture teacher, one of my power users, was having >>> difficulty accessing most of his files on our server--most but not, >>> which was driving me crazy as you can imagine. It would have saved a >>> lot of time if I could have had one window open in ARD to change >>> settings on the server and watch the results--and also have a window >>> open where I could both watch and control the computer he was on. >>> >>> I could have done so if he were on a PC using RVNC, but I can't with >>> it installed on a Mac. >>> >>> Any thoughts as to what I'm doing wrong? For what I need and >>> am doing >>> with RVNC, the setup seemed awfully simple and >>> straightforward, which >>> is one of the reasons RVNC has been such a joy to use. Is it because >>> the software's beta? All help will be appreciated. >>> >>> My thanks to you all, >>> >>> >>> David Ure, Technology Coordinator >>> Wapello Community School District >>> 501 Buchanan Avenue >>> Wapello, Iowa 52653 >>> 319-527-1209, fax: 319-523-4408 >>> dure@wapello.k12.ia.us >>> Skype: davidure >>> >>> "If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save >>> the few who are rich." -- JFK Inaugural Address >>> _______________________________________________ >>> VNC-List mailing list >>> VNC-List@realvnc.com >>> To remove yourself from the list visit: >>> http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From bryan_carey8@hotmail.com Sat Aug 5 02:07:03 2006 From: bryan_carey8@hotmail.com (Bryan Carey) Date: Sat Aug 5 01:07:03 2006 Subject: Change VNC server to not launch at startup Message-ID: I am using the free edition of VNC and whenever I launch windows (start up my computer) it automatically starts the VNC server and opens one of my ports. I would like it to not do this at start up, is there any setting to change so it will not do this? (I check my Programs > Startup folder and that didn't contain it, I looked in the configuration settings for the VNC server and checked the registry for anything that looked like would be causing this to run at startup, but maybe I missed something) Thanks! -Bryan _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From shobuz99@yahoo.com Sun Aug 6 18:35:01 2006 From: shobuz99@yahoo.com (Shobuz99) Date: Sun Aug 6 17:35:01 2006 Subject: VNC and mIRC Message-ID: <20060806163353.88075.qmail@web54614.mail.yahoo.com> I have a general question for anyone of the VNC users here. Does anyone have experience using VNC as a server with mIRC installed on one of the computers that connected to the same router? I'm asking this badly, and I apologize for my poor explanation. A friend of mine wishes to use VNC, in some form, i.e. ultra, tight, realvnc,winvnc, etc. to monitor his office machine while he's away. His office machine is one of the boxes on a router (linksys wrt54gc) sharing the router with a box that is setup with mIRC and what seems to be a 'ghost' IP config. I have tried to help him connect, remotely, to his office box using VNC. I have forwarded ports 5500, 5800, and 5900 in his setup on the Linksys router. For some reason, we cannot connect. We get a "timed-out" error, no matter what port we choose. When I ping his external IP, the return message is: C:\>ping 12.42.238.220 Pinging 12.42.238.220 with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 12.119.154.26: Destination net unreachable. Reply from 12.125.130.154: Destination net unreachable. Reply from 12.119.155.42: Destination net unreachable. Reply from 12.125.130.154: Destination net unreachable. Ping statistics for 12.42.238.220: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms As you can see, the external address is NOT the one that appears in the replies. I suspect that mIRC is creating the external IP as a 'ghost' IP. I'm not sure that is true, but am perplexed how to connect to his server using VNC, if the IP is not the real external IP. Does anyone have any experience with this? I have looked through the previous VNC digests that I saved, and I have google'd this several times with no luck. I appreciate any suggestions anyone may have. Shobuz99 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From bedouglas@earthlink.net Sun Aug 6 18:58:01 2006 From: bedouglas@earthlink.net (bruce) Date: Sun Aug 6 17:58:01 2006 Subject: VNC and mIRC In-Reply-To: <20060806163353.88075.qmail@web54614.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <172e01c6b97a$f0686540$0301a8c0@Mesa.com> shobuz99... as far as i know, mirc has nothing to do with ip addresses.i'm assuming this is the mirc that's used to communicate with the irc channels... as far as the vncsetup, before you even get there, you need to be able to find/ping the ip address of the machine that has vnc, which means you need to be able to ping the router and/or the machine in question. -can you ping the router -can you ping the pc/machine -does the router have port forwarding setup so it allows the port in question to be forwarded to the actual machine in question once you've verified that you can communicate/ping with the targeted machine, then you can setup vnc with no issue... let us know your progress.. -----Original Message----- From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com]On Behalf Of Shobuz99 Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 9:34 AM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: VNC and mIRC I have a general question for anyone of the VNC users here. Does anyone have experience using VNC as a server with mIRC installed on one of the computers that connected to the same router? I'm asking this badly, and I apologize for my poor explanation. A friend of mine wishes to use VNC, in some form, i.e. ultra, tight, realvnc,winvnc, etc. to monitor his office machine while he's away. His office machine is one of the boxes on a router (linksys wrt54gc) sharing the router with a box that is setup with mIRC and what seems to be a 'ghost' IP config. I have tried to help him connect, remotely, to his office box using VNC. I have forwarded ports 5500, 5800, and 5900 in his setup on the Linksys router. For some reason, we cannot connect. We get a "timed-out" error, no matter what port we choose. When I ping his external IP, the return message is: C:\>ping 12.42.238.220 Pinging 12.42.238.220 with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 12.119.154.26: Destination net unreachable. Reply from 12.125.130.154: Destination net unreachable. Reply from 12.119.155.42: Destination net unreachable. Reply from 12.125.130.154: Destination net unreachable. Ping statistics for 12.42.238.220: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms As you can see, the external address is NOT the one that appears in the replies. I suspect that mIRC is creating the external IP as a 'ghost' IP. I'm not sure that is true, but am perplexed how to connect to his server using VNC, if the IP is not the real external IP. Does anyone have any experience with this? I have looked through the previous VNC digests that I saved, and I have google'd this several times with no luck. I appreciate any suggestions anyone may have. Shobuz99 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From morbenmabel@onetel.com Sun Aug 6 23:13:01 2006 From: morbenmabel@onetel.com (chris and dave) Date: Sun Aug 6 22:13:01 2006 Subject: basic win 98 and firewall questions Message-ID: To access one remote computer do I need one or two copies of personal edition? Will it run ok as server on 5 yr old win98 m/c - its quite slow? - or should I tell my dad to get a new one? Any advice on UK broadband router for server end - are any easier to set up for VNC? thanks Dave From alexmeasures@gmail.com Mon Aug 7 13:17:00 2006 From: alexmeasures@gmail.com (Alex Measures) Date: Mon Aug 7 12:17:00 2006 Subject: Connection refused Message-ID: <84a19d240608070416u41b074e8q9da696cc14f95d94@mail.gmail.com> I am setting up VNC for the first time and can't get past this error. I am behind a NAT router and have forwarded ports 5500, 5800, and 5900 to the host IP. I've also run a few of the sites which test the connection, and it has passed on 9 different ports. So when I enter my external IP I am still getting this error. What else could I be missing? From offer.kaye@gmail.com Mon Aug 7 13:53:01 2006 From: offer.kaye@gmail.com (Offer Kaye) Date: Mon Aug 7 12:53:01 2006 Subject: Desktop geometry dynamic change Message-ID: <5694250608070452s20ec91c2mebdbcd405e598d92@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I'm working with a laptop which is sometimes connected to an LCD screen. Laptop is running Windows. The desktop is extended to the LCD screen. The laptop resolution is 1024x768, the LCD is working at 1280x1024. I'd like to be drag the VNC client window from the laptop to the LCD and have it change resolution dynamically. Of course this means the vncserver (running remotly on a Sun-Solaris station) must be able to change desktop resolution dynamically. In 2004 we were told it could not be done: http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2004-June/045488.html In 2005 we were told it could *still* not be done (but that hope was on the horizon): http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2005-October/052788.html Any change in status? Is it possible now? If yes, how? Waiting with crossed-fingers :) Thanks, -- Offer Kaye From jerry@westrick.com Mon Aug 7 14:53:05 2006 From: jerry@westrick.com (Jerry Westrick) Date: Mon Aug 7 13:53:05 2006 Subject: Desktop geometry dynamic change In-Reply-To: <5694250608070452s20ec91c2mebdbcd405e598d92@mail.gmail.com> References: <5694250608070452s20ec91c2mebdbcd405e598d92@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200608071352.57786.jerry@westrick.com> Use Nx? www.nomachine.com Jerry On Monday 07 August 2006 13:52, Offer Kaye wrote: > Hi, > I'm working with a laptop which is sometimes connected to an LCD > screen. Laptop is running Windows. The desktop is extended to the LCD > screen. > The laptop resolution is 1024x768, the LCD is working at 1280x1024. > > I'd like to be drag the VNC client window from the laptop to the LCD > and have it change resolution dynamically. Of course this means the > vncserver (running remotly on a Sun-Solaris station) must be able to > change desktop resolution dynamically. > > In 2004 we were told it could not be done: > http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2004-June/045488.html > > In 2005 we were told it could *still* not be done (but that hope was > on the horizon): > http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2005-October/052788.html > > Any change in status? Is it possible now? If yes, how? > > Waiting with crossed-fingers :) > > Thanks, From MANDI@bardhvac.com Mon Aug 7 15:05:01 2006 From: MANDI@bardhvac.com (MANDI@bardhvac.com) Date: Mon Aug 7 14:05:01 2006 Subject: DeviceFrameBuffer:BitBlt Failed 5 Message-ID: I'm using VNC 4 on a Windows 2003 Server. I'm accessing it from XP Pro SP2 client (VNC 4). I'm seeing the following error in the Event Viewer: DeviceFrameBuffer:BitBlt Failed 5. I see this error mentioned on the message boards already, but did not see an explanation of why it's happening. Can someone tell me why this is happening and if it's something to worry about? Thanks. Mandi Crawford From cbeerse@gmail.com Mon Aug 7 16:33:01 2006 From: cbeerse@gmail.com (Corne Beerse) Date: Mon Aug 7 15:33:01 2006 Subject: Connect to another machine without logging on In-Reply-To: <006801c6a1c7$f846c830$6401a8de@enak9200> References: <006801c6a1c7$f846c830$6401a8de@enak9200> Message-ID: <44D74EF5.3020809@gmail.com> Nathan Kane wrote: >I have been asked to find out how to access a server that has VNC without >having to type in the user name and password. We can do it on one >workstation but when we copied VNC to another workstation we are required to >enter a user name and password. The guy that setup the first machine is no >longer with the company and no one knows how he did it. Everything is >internal so there is not a security risk. > > > If you have a running vnc-connection, you can save the connection settings. If you cannot find the menu, try the right mouse button on the (top) border of the vnc-viewer window. While saving, do that to a file with a .vnc extention. You will be asked to save the password in the file, just do that. If that does not work, you can also create a shortcut to the vnc-viewer application and in there add the right option an the (encrypted?) password. Use `vncviewer.exe /?` to see the options. Be noted, that is for the password for the vnc-session. If in the vnc-session an other login box appears, you have to see with that OS (or tool) to auto-login. For M$Windows, have a look at the tools at www.systeminternals.com. Regards CBee From cbeerse@gmail.com Mon Aug 7 16:45:01 2006 From: cbeerse@gmail.com (Corne Beerse) Date: Mon Aug 7 15:45:01 2006 Subject: how to make the display set by default In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44D750CC.1060101@gmail.com> admin g wrote: >Hi, > > Whenever I connect to vnc server I always have to give setenv DISPLAY >ipaddr of local system:1.0 in the terminal to get the display, is there any >option to set this permanently ,some where in like xstartup file or some >thing.Please guide me .......... > > That depends on a lot of things. Most likely, somewhere in your login scripts there is a less than perfect way to update the $DISPLAY... Then it depends on how you start your vnc-session (the server side, not the viewer side) and how you start the applications in there. If you use the `vncserver` script, that provides a reasonable example on how to set the $DIAPLAY. If you start `xvnv` in an own script, peek in the `vncserver` script. If you start xvnc in an other way, see it as any other X11 server like xorg or xfree86. It even uses the same defaults (like localhost:0.0 for default display) On some locations I have replaced the local X11 server with xvnc and it all works as expected. I had to add some vnc-specific options and that was it. Regards CBee From jmueller@tomotherapy.com Mon Aug 7 16:58:00 2006 From: jmueller@tomotherapy.com (Jacob Mueller) Date: Mon Aug 7 15:58:00 2006 Subject: Administrator can use VNC viewer but normal user get the error "Error creating listening Daemon" Message-ID: <6D8F34AF9232B54E88129DF4E7C6F98D05043704@TOMOMAIL.tomotherapy.com> Hello, Administrator can use VNC viewer but the normal user will get the error "Error creating listening Daemon: (Error binding Flasher socket) Perhaps another VNC viewer is already running?" Another VNC session is not running Sincerely, Jacob Mueller Customer Support Engineer TomoTherapy Incorporated From cbeerse@gmail.com Mon Aug 7 17:12:01 2006 From: cbeerse@gmail.com (Corne Beerse) Date: Mon Aug 7 16:12:01 2006 Subject: Windows XP <-> Suse10.0 Linux oddity In-Reply-To: <89C159F45B13A24682D98BDEF58E451F08A29E0D@TLRUSMNEAGMBX28.ERF.THOMSON.COM> References: <89C159F45B13A24682D98BDEF58E451F08A29E0D@TLRUSMNEAGMBX28.ERF.THOMSON.COM> Message-ID: <44D7582C.9030101@gmail.com> matt.pettis@thomson.com wrote: >Hi Jerry, > >Thanks for your reply! I did try SuSE's version of VNC as well as >RealVNC, and in fact, I have the same problems (I can use it's viewer to >view my XP desktop, but I cannot connect to it from my XP box). Any >ideas why that wouldn't work? I'm not too impressed with the >documentation I found on it in the help docs for SuSE, and I really >didn't know how to troubleshoot it after not finding it there. I assume >it is probably the same reason that RealVNC can't be used to connect to >it either. As I'm new, I'm trying to figure out how to know if SuSE is >running a firewall and, if so, how to enable those ports. I'd think >that there'd be a way through SuSE's VNC (I'm using KDE, by the way) to >do it, but I can't seem to find anything. Any more suggestions from you >or anybody would be welcome... > > For SuSE, you best can use yast to provide remote-administration. Then point the vncviewer to "machine:10" or "machine:11" and see that you get a fresh login screen, not related to the console. While on the SuSE console, there is also a way to open vnc for that, however I cannot recall how. It is somewhere in the kde or gnome setup. >tia, >matt > >----------------------------------- >Message: 11 >From: Jerry Westrick >To: vnc-list@realvnc.com >Subject: Re: Windows XP <-> Suse10.0 Linux oddity >Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 09:45:38 +0200 > >Hello mat... > >Being a SUSE fan myself, I can help here... > > >First off, did you know that SUSE already had VNC installed on your >machine? Albeit, the tightvnc version... > >Also SUSE went through a lot of trouble to set vnc up for you. > >They prepared vnc as a "Terminal Server" (this allows you to run >multiple desktops at the same time.) > >They prepared vnc in XWindows to allow you to see the current screen on >the the actual monitor (ala windows version). > >They prepared a Remote desktop sharing setup to allow you to request >help from friends, via email, chat.... > >Each of these are already installed, setup, and can be configured from >the GUI. > >Unless you really know what your doing, (or want to learn) I would >suggest you stick to the SUSE prepared services, after all, you bought >the distribution to avoid messing with all these nasty little >configuration details, right? ;) > > >Jerry Westrick. >_______________________________________________ >VNC-List mailing list >VNC-List@realvnc.com >To remove yourself from the list visit: >http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From cbeerse@gmail.com Mon Aug 7 17:14:01 2006 From: cbeerse@gmail.com (Corne Beerse) Date: Mon Aug 7 16:14:01 2006 Subject: Web Applet In-Reply-To: <000501c6acbb$2384b7c0$140ba8c0@thebeast> References: <000501c6acbb$2384b7c0$140ba8c0@thebeast> Message-ID: <44D758A7.3090103@gmail.com> PsYcHoKiLLa wrote: >Hi, Firstly I love this product. > > > >I'm in a gaming clan which rents a dedicated server, the server has realvnc >installed. We, like most gaming clans, use a php-nuke website which I can >easily make a custom module for, I was wondering if I could embed the java >applet within an html page (or if there is a module already pre-made) >without the java applet breaking out from the page. > > > >Thanks in advance >_______________________________________________ >VNC-List mailing list >VNC-List@realvnc.com >To remove yourself from the list visit: >http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list > > > Have a look at the linux (or other unix) distribution. There the vnc-server (`xvnc`) is a tiny http-server that points to the install directory. In there you will find the java applets. Regards CBee From robertbook@gmail.com Mon Aug 7 18:43:00 2006 From: robertbook@gmail.com (Robert Book) Date: Mon Aug 7 17:43:00 2006 Subject: TWM problem Message-ID: This is technically a TWM question rather than strictly a VNC question, but I don't know where else I can find people who use TWM these days. :-) I'd like to know how to adjust the height of the window title bars and the line spacing in the pop-up menus in TWM. My problem is, I used TWM for many years, and both the height of the title bars matched the font size used for the window titles, and the pop-up menus looked right. Then, I upgraded to Fedora Core 4 -- and now the window title bars about about 2-3 times the height of the title font, and the pop-up menus appear to be "double-spaced" or more-than-double spaced. I've searched through the TWM man pages, and searched google on everything I can think of, but I can't find any parameter for font height or title bar height or anything like that. (I'm not saying there isn't one -- but I haven't found one.) I've tried changing fonts, and the space expands or contracts with the font, but still remains "wrong." This is mildly annoying for title bars, but for the menus the effect is that the lower options are "off the screen" and thus un-selectable. Any ideas on how I can fix this? I'd gladly "downgrade" to an older version of TWM if that's what's required -- but I haven't even been able to figure out which version of TWM I have! (It's whatever comes with FC4, but I can't find that documented anywhere.) Thanks! --Robert From GardellaJM@Npt.NUWC.Navy.Mil Mon Aug 7 18:51:01 2006 From: GardellaJM@Npt.NUWC.Navy.Mil (Gardella Jean M NPRI) Date: Mon Aug 7 17:51:01 2006 Subject: VNC Server 4.1.2 Message-ID: <9D7F8BF1DCA9D411B0850008C75D89C5160F958C@npri54exc16.npt.nuwc.navy.mil> In earlier versions of VNC (3.3.x), the server configuration settings could be protected by a password. But that doesn't appear to be the case in 4.1.2 Is that true or did I miss a setting somewhere? Thanks in advance, Jean gardellajm@npt.nuwc.navy.mil From jnw@realvnc.com Mon Aug 7 19:45:00 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Mon Aug 7 18:45:00 2006 Subject: VNC Server 4.1.2 In-Reply-To: <9D7F8BF1DCA9D411B0850008C75D89C5160F958C@npri54exc16.npt.nuwc.navy.mil> Message-ID: <001d01c6ba49$10d807d0$06000100@sturton.local> Hi Jean, I'm afraid that you are mistaken. VNC 3 series servers did not have password-protected settings. VNC 4 only permits members of the Administrators group to edit VNC Server's settings. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Gardella Jean M NPRI > Sent: 07 August 2006 17:41 > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: VNC Server 4.1.2 > > In earlier versions of VNC (3.3.x), the server configuration > settings could be protected by a password. But that doesn't > appear to be the case in 4.1.2 Is that true or did I miss a > setting somewhere? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Jean > > gardellajm@npt.nuwc.navy.mil > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From jnw@realvnc.com Mon Aug 7 19:46:00 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Mon Aug 7 18:46:00 2006 Subject: Administrator can use VNC viewer but normal user get the error "Error creating listening Daemon" In-Reply-To: <6D8F34AF9232B54E88129DF4E7C6F98D05043704@TOMOMAIL.tomotherapy.com> Message-ID: <001e01c6ba49$3f8a3940$06000100@sturton.local> Jacob, You appear to be running a very old version of VNC Viewer, in Listening mode. The first thing to try is upgrading to a recent release. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Jacob Mueller > Sent: 07 August 2006 15:57 > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Administrator can use VNC viewer but normal user get > the error "Error creating listening Daemon" > > Hello, > > Administrator can use VNC viewer but the normal user will get > the error > "Error creating listening Daemon: (Error binding Flasher > socket) Perhaps > another VNC viewer is already running?" > > Another VNC session is not running > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Jacob Mueller > > Customer Support Engineer > > TomoTherapy Incorporated > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From fgoncalves@digibirth.com Tue Aug 8 01:08:01 2006 From: fgoncalves@digibirth.com (fgoncalves@digibirth.com) Date: Tue Aug 8 00:08:01 2006 Subject: How to... Message-ID: Can I connect a PC that has a local (private) direction IP in my network with a PC that has local (private) direction IP in another network? Thanks From larry.brigman@gmail.com Tue Aug 8 03:01:01 2006 From: larry.brigman@gmail.com (Larry Brigman) Date: Tue Aug 8 02:01:01 2006 Subject: How to... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 8/7/06, fgoncalves@digibirth.com wrote: > Can I connect a PC that has a local (private) direction IP in my network > with a PC that has local (private) direction IP in another network? > >From the FAQ gives you the details http://www.realvnc.com/faq.html#natrouter You can use echovnc (http://echovnc.sourceforge.net/fom-serve/cache/1.html) or the way I got it going was setting up a VPN with hamachi (http://hamachi.cc). VNC across the internet is not secure unless you use some level of encryption or tunnel. From joel@capebilling.com Tue Aug 8 04:32:00 2006 From: joel@capebilling.com (Joel (CPB)) Date: Tue Aug 8 03:32:00 2006 Subject: Black Screen when logging in Message-ID: <200608080231.k782Vj629889@realvnc.com> Hello Everyone, This is a fairly recent, out of nowhere issue for us. We have a few workers whom VPN into the office network and they all have no problems viewing the Windows 2000 Professional Server at the office once VPN has been established. A few months ago, one user started getting the black screen and error 10054 when he attempts to logon. The settings on the VNC are the same as the other users. It is a Windows XP Professional SP2 machine, no screensaver, Linksys Router has VPN port open. We verified that all remote users are using the same settings for Port Forwarding. We can find absolutely nothing different that would lead us to the issue at hand. I have read a lot of the archived material and used them as options to run some tests but have come up with nothing. We also had the user drop the MTU to 1300 but it made no difference at all. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Joel Michalec IT Manager, CPB, Inc joel@capebilling.com From scott@smithdomain.com Tue Aug 8 05:10:00 2006 From: scott@smithdomain.com (B. Scott Smith) Date: Tue Aug 8 04:10:00 2006 Subject: Black Screen when logging in In-Reply-To: <200608080231.k782Vj629889@realvnc.com> References: <200608080231.k782Vj629889@realvnc.com> Message-ID: <44D80061.9010709@smithdomain.com> Joel (CPB) wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > This is a fairly recent, out of nowhere issue for us. We have a few workers > whom VPN into the office network and they all have no problems viewing the > Windows 2000 Professional Server at the office once VPN has been > established. A few months ago, one user started getting the black screen > and error 10054 when he attempts to logon. The settings on the VNC are the > same as the other users. It is a Windows XP Professional SP2 machine, ... Any help would be appreciated. > The difference is that they are using RDP or Fast User Switching on the XP box. Unfortunately, VNC will not work for these platforms. If you must use VNC, you will need to disable both Remote Desktop and FUS. Otherwise, you should stick to using RDP to access these boxes remotely. From jeff@glaspie.org Tue Aug 8 07:06:01 2006 From: jeff@glaspie.org (Jeff Glaspie) Date: Tue Aug 8 06:06:01 2006 Subject: behind a router Message-ID: <200608080505.k7855c610452@realvnc.com> I have read all the info from the site that talks about connecting to machines behind a router and I have done it successful for some time now. I am needing to make sure I can connect to multiple computer behind the same router. I have read the information that is also posted on the site about the as well but I still have a few answers that I couldn't find answers to. Here we go --> This info from the site says that changing the port to on a specific machine makes this possible. For example 5000 is default for the 0 monitor and 5901 is for monitor "1". My concern is that I don't want to use the defaults and would like to start my ports at something like 51000. Does that mean that VNC will automatically know that 51000 will be "0" and so on?? I just would like to make sure. --> Another think is that inorder to port forward, VNC has to have 5900 TCP 5500 TCP and 5800 TCP ports open to connect to the machine. My question is: do I just forward the 5900 TCP setting because that is what I am changing on the other machines or do all the setting have to reflect a similair change. For instance if my first port that I plan to use is 51000, are the setting as follows: 51000 tcp 5500 tcp and 5800 tcp? Just a little confused on this. Thanks, Jeff From joel@capebilling.com Tue Aug 8 16:17:01 2006 From: joel@capebilling.com (Joel (CPB)) Date: Tue Aug 8 15:17:01 2006 Subject: Black Screen when logging in In-Reply-To: <44D80061.9010709@smithdomain.com> Message-ID: <200608081416.k78EG4612199@realvnc.com> Thanks for the reply, I see what you are saying but the User does not use FUS. As far as RDP, I am not sure. All remote users are using variations of Windows XP (Home or Pro) and this is the only user with the problem suddenly. Another point about Remote Desktop, I use it on my remote machine to access our NAS, but it does not work for viewing the Win2000 Pro Server, that is where I have to use VNC. I have used both VNC and Remote Desktop successfully in tandem with each other. -----Original Message----- From: B. Scott Smith [mailto:scott@smithdomain.com] Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 11:09 PM To: Joel (CPB) Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: Black Screen when logging in Joel (CPB) wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > This is a fairly recent, out of nowhere issue for us. We have a few > workers whom VPN into the office network and they all have no problems > viewing the Windows 2000 Professional Server at the office once VPN > has been established. A few months ago, one user started getting the > black screen and error 10054 when he attempts to logon. The settings > on the VNC are the same as the other users. It is a Windows XP Professional SP2 machine, ... Any help would be appreciated. > The difference is that they are using RDP or Fast User Switching on the XP box. Unfortunately, VNC will not work for these platforms. If you must use VNC, you will need to disable both Remote Desktop and FUS. Otherwise, you should stick to using RDP to access these boxes remotely. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/411 - Release Date: 8/7/2006 From scott@smithdomain.com Tue Aug 8 17:07:02 2006 From: scott@smithdomain.com (B. Scott Smith) Date: Tue Aug 8 16:07:02 2006 Subject: Black Screen when logging in In-Reply-To: <200608081416.k78EG4612199@realvnc.com> References: <200608081416.k78EG4612199@realvnc.com> Message-ID: <44D8A85E.3010208@smithdomain.com> Joel (CPB) wrote: > Thanks for the reply, > I see what you are saying but the User does not use FUS. As far as RDP, I > am not sure. All remote users are using variations of Windows XP (Home or > Pro) and this is the only user with the problem suddenly. Another point > about Remote Desktop, I use it on my remote machine to access our NAS, but > it does not work for viewing the Win2000 Pro Server, that is where I have to > use VNC. I have used both VNC and Remote Desktop successfully in tandem > with each other. > One way to test whether RDP is causing the issue is to refer to the following post: http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2005-June/051137.html http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2005-February/049146.html From joel@capebilling.com Tue Aug 8 19:24:01 2006 From: joel@capebilling.com (Joel (CPB)) Date: Tue Aug 8 18:24:01 2006 Subject: Black Screen when logging in In-Reply-To: <44D8A85E.3010208@smithdomain.com> Message-ID: <200608081723.k78HN0606196@realvnc.com> Appreciate the information, I have a question though...the help refers to VNC "into" the XP machine. But we are coming OUT of an XP machine and into a Win2K machine. So do I still follow the troubleshooting on the WinXP machine? -----Original Message----- From: B. Scott Smith [mailto:scott@smithdomain.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:06 AM To: Joel (CPB) Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: Black Screen when logging in Joel (CPB) wrote: > Thanks for the reply, > I see what you are saying but the User does not use FUS. As far as > RDP, I am not sure. All remote users are using variations of Windows > XP (Home or > Pro) and this is the only user with the problem suddenly. Another > point about Remote Desktop, I use it on my remote machine to access > our NAS, but it does not work for viewing the Win2000 Pro Server, that > is where I have to use VNC. I have used both VNC and Remote Desktop > successfully in tandem with each other. > One way to test whether RDP is causing the issue is to refer to the following post: http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2005-June/051137.html http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2005-February/049146.html -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/411 - Release Date: 8/7/2006 From scott@smithdomain.com Tue Aug 8 20:07:01 2006 From: scott@smithdomain.com (B. Scott Smith) Date: Tue Aug 8 19:07:01 2006 Subject: Black Screen when logging in In-Reply-To: <200608081722.k78HMuf11464@enexity.com> References: <200608081722.k78HMuf11464@enexity.com> Message-ID: <44D8D297.9050505@smithdomain.com> Joel (CPB) wrote: > Appreciate the information, I have a question though...the help refers to > VNC "into" the XP machine. But we are coming OUT of an XP machine and into > a Win2K machine. So do I still follow the troubleshooting on the WinXP > machine? > Oh. You are not running VNC server on XP, just the viewer? In that case, disregard everything I've been saying. I have no idea why you would be seeing a blank screen on the XP box. Are you saying if you VNC into the same Win2K machine from a non-XP box, it works? If so, I have no ideas. From cooch17@verizon.net Tue Aug 8 21:25:01 2006 From: cooch17@verizon.net (Evan Cooch) Date: Tue Aug 8 20:25:01 2006 Subject: vncconfig problems | Fedora Core 5 Message-ID: <44D8E4EA.9090506@verizon.net> Greetings - I have vncserver (free edition 4.1.1) running just fine on my Fedora Core 5 box. However, what *isn't* running - at all - is vncconfig. When I try running vncconfig from a terminal within a Xvnc session, I get the following error message: X Error of failed request: Badlength (poly request too larger or internal XLib length error) Major opcode of failed request: 134 (VNC-EXTENSION) Minor opcode of failed request: 1() Serial number of failed request: 63 Current serial number in output stream: 63 One of the realities of FC 5 is that it uses Xorg, not XFree86. Also, this particular machine has nVidia video rivers rolled into the kernel - but I don't know how that could affect the problem. I tried recompiling vnc, but it made no difference - same error message when I try to start vncconfig. So, again, I'm having problems getting a component of vnc to 'play nice' with the way X11 is handled on Fedora boxes (which, by the way, will soon be the standard for RHEL boxes too). Needless to say, I'd like to get vncconfig working - its the only practical way to do 'cut and paste' between my Windows machine (running the vncviewer), and the virtual Xvnc desktop. Thanks in advance for any/all suggestions. From cooch17@verizon.net Tue Aug 8 21:33:01 2006 From: cooch17@verizon.net (Evan Cooch) Date: Tue Aug 8 20:33:01 2006 Subject: vncconfig & ssh Message-ID: <44D8E64F.90704@verizon.net> By the way, if I start vnc sessions through a tunnel, I'm wondering if 'cut and paste' works anyway? From joel@capebilling.com Tue Aug 8 21:56:01 2006 From: joel@capebilling.com (Joel (CPB)) Date: Tue Aug 8 20:56:01 2006 Subject: Black Screen when logging in In-Reply-To: <44D8D297.9050505@smithdomain.com> Message-ID: <200608081955.k78Jto626397@realvnc.com> Absolutely, I will draw it out for you (in words..LOL).. We have the Real VNC Server running on our Win2K Professional Server Edition Server. Then we have three client PCs that are also running the full version of Real VNC (free, of course) on Windows XP (1 Home Edition, 2 Professional) and all of a sudden, the one started having this error. The settings of RealVNC are the same on all three PCs. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: B. Scott Smith [mailto:scott@smithdomain.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 2:06 PM To: Joel (CPB) Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: Black Screen when logging in Joel (CPB) wrote: > Appreciate the information, I have a question though...the help refers > to VNC "into" the XP machine. But we are coming OUT of an XP machine > and into a Win2K machine. So do I still follow the troubleshooting on > the WinXP machine? > Oh. You are not running VNC server on XP, just the viewer? In that case, disregard everything I've been saying. I have no idea why you would be seeing a blank screen on the XP box. Are you saying if you VNC into the same Win2K machine from a non-XP box, it works? If so, I have no ideas. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/411 - Release Date: 8/7/2006 From linux@nextmail.ru Tue Aug 8 22:50:00 2006 From: linux@nextmail.ru (Pavel Vasilyev) Date: Tue Aug 8 21:50:00 2006 Subject: Optimization VNC server and DirectVNC client Message-ID: <44D8F8C9.5090602@nextmail.ru> Give please urls, links and other info about possible Framebuffer device optimization for using with VNC. When client connected to VNC server, i see remote desktop like a slideshow. But the client and a server are on distance of 2 meters (6,5 feet) from the switch and work in one network (192.168.0.0/24). Network speed nearby 11.2 Mbyte/sec. From tperciak@adelphia.net Tue Aug 8 23:31:01 2006 From: tperciak@adelphia.net (tperciak@adelphia.net) Date: Tue Aug 8 22:31:01 2006 Subject: Optimization VNC server and DirectVNC client Message-ID: <31583103.1155072644088.JavaMail.root@web20> Hello' Please be patince with me I go ahead start all over . can you explain to me to step to step make to smooth . i think went to messed up everything i would like to start all over to order step to step if you don't mind it . or can you give me ur phone number i can call you to slove this situation problem . i do thank you very much . thanks tom ---- Pavel Vasilyev wrote: > Give please urls, links and other info about possible Framebuffer > device optimization for using with VNC. When client connected to > VNC server, i see remote desktop like a slideshow. > But the client and a server are on distance of 2 meters (6,5 feet) > from the switch and work in one network (192.168.0.0/24). > Network speed nearby 11.2 Mbyte/sec. > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From jerry@westrick.com Wed Aug 9 00:15:01 2006 From: jerry@westrick.com (Jerry Westrick) Date: Tue Aug 8 23:15:01 2006 Subject: vncconfig & ssh In-Reply-To: <44D8E64F.90704@verizon.net> References: <44D8E64F.90704@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200608082313.48350.jerry@westrick.com> On Tuesday 08 August 2006 21:30, Evan Cooch wrote: > By the way, if I start vnc sessions through a tunnel, I'm wondering if > 'cut and paste' works anyway? Vnc works the same wither tunneled or not. Jerry From todde@email.utcourts.gov Wed Aug 9 00:42:01 2006 From: todde@email.utcourts.gov (Todd Eaton) Date: Tue Aug 8 23:42:01 2006 Subject: VNC password Message-ID: We are running a few different versions of VNC in our building for out IT people to use in tech support. We were using the same password for each computer as the password was not shared outside of the help desk. We've had a person leave and need to change the password. I have changed the password for an entire floor and noticed a peculiar problem. If some of the computers are rebooted, they will still take the old password before they are logged into our Novell network. Once logged in they use the new one. Please advise. Todd Eaton Help Desk 801-578-3868 From unclerabid@charter.net Wed Aug 9 00:46:01 2006 From: unclerabid@charter.net (Jim RabidWolf) Date: Tue Aug 8 23:46:01 2006 Subject: VNC password References: Message-ID: <00f601c6bb3c$686f14e0$800101df@dcrs.local> Todd - you didn't mention the OS of the machines? Are you using roving profiles and/or group policies? Jim RabidWolf Uncle Rabid ( http://www.unclerabid.com ) We Repair Electronic Speed Controllers For Asian Mini Lathes and Mini Mills "Just Crazy Enough To Get the Job Done" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Eaton" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 5:41 PM Subject: VNC password We are running a few different versions of VNC in our building for out IT people to use in tech support. We were using the same password for each computer as the password was not shared outside of the help desk. We've had a person leave and need to change the password. I have changed the password for an entire floor and noticed a peculiar problem. If some of the computers are rebooted, they will still take the old password before they are logged into our Novell network. Once logged in they use the new one. Please advise. Todd Eaton Help Desk 801-578-3868 _______________________________________________ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From tomb@byrneit.net Wed Aug 9 05:30:00 2006 From: tomb@byrneit.net (Tomas L. Byrnes) Date: Wed Aug 9 04:30:00 2006 Subject: vncconfig & ssh In-Reply-To: <44D8E64F.90704@verizon.net> Message-ID: <7F5DF1ABF6B0864F88C9682DC23A270B6F0F32@pascal.zaphodb.org> Works fine for me. VNC doesn't seem to care how the packets get there, as long as they do. -----Original Message----- From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Evan Cooch Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:30 PM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: vncconfig & ssh By the way, if I start vnc sessions through a tunnel, I'm wondering if 'cut and paste' works anyway? _______________________________________________ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From jeff@glaspie.org Wed Aug 9 08:47:00 2006 From: jeff@glaspie.org (Jeff Glaspie) Date: Wed Aug 9 07:47:00 2006 Subject: saving config Message-ID: <200608090646.k796kC616022@realvnc.com> Thanks for the input about the connection behind a router. I have it up and running. I have one other question though and then I should be set. --> Since I am using IPs and ports I want to save the configurations. I tried the options button on the interface and then save, but when I double click on the saved link (icon) it errors out. I then start VNC from the general VNC interface and it works. I think that I have tried out every possible way except for the one that actually works. Can someone give me clue what I am not doing wrong? Thanks, Jeff From jnw@realvnc.com Wed Aug 9 11:29:00 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Wed Aug 9 10:29:00 2006 Subject: VNC password In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000901c6bb96$29810e50$06000100@sturton.local> Hi Todd, Sounds like you're running VNC 3 series servers, which are very old, and have a slightly involved configuration system. VNC Server 4 (http://www.realvnc.com/products/free/4.2) has much simpler configuration and better performance, so you may wish to upgrade to that. You may also be interested in VNC Enterprise Edition (http://www.realvnc.com/products/enterprise), which can be made to authenticate users against their native Windows/Active Directory accounts, and which can be installed and configured with the VNC Deployment Tool. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Todd Eaton > Sent: 08 August 2006 23:41 > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: VNC password > > We are running a few different versions of VNC in our > building for out IT > people to use in tech support. > > We were using the same password for each computer as the > password was not > shared outside of the help desk. > > We've had a person leave and need to change the password. I > have changed the > password for an entire floor and noticed a peculiar problem. > If some of the > computers are rebooted, they will still take the old password > before they are > logged into our Novell network. Once logged in they use the new one. > > Please advise. > > Todd Eaton > Help Desk > 801-578-3868 > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From hemmerling@gmx.net Wed Aug 9 12:08:01 2006 From: hemmerling@gmx.net (Rolf Hemmerling) Date: Wed Aug 9 11:08:01 2006 Subject: VNC 4.1.2 Server mode for W2k does not work in my network, mostly :-( Message-ID: <44D9B3DF.4020105@gmx.net> Hello, I just installed VNC 4.1.2 on 3 computers Computer NODE4, IP=192.168.0.4, W2k,SP4 international english Computer NODE3, IP=192.168.0.3, W2k,SP4 international english Computer NODE2, IP=192.168.0.2, W2k,SP4 german edition. a) If I start VNC server in user mode, I can access all 3 computers as usual. I use the IP numbers as server name, to access them by the VNC client. b) But if I start VNC server in service mode, I just manage to get a connection from A4 and A2 to A3 ( so I think that I know how to configure VNC :-) ), the other combinations ( e.g. A4 to A2, A3 to A2, A3 to A4 ) fail by the error message "The connection closed unexpectedly. Do you wish to attempt to reconnect to xxxx ?", where xxx is the name of the computer. Of course I configured VNC and registered the service for the service mode. Unfortunately I deleted the 4.1.1 version already ( and I learned that there was a security bug). So I must run VNC now in user mode, on 2 machines. Any help ? Sincerely Rolf -- / / / Alone on the data highway... / / like on an allee in Hannover-Herrenhausen / / / The Hemmerling (R) WEB site - Rolf Hemmerling,Germany / / / http://www.hemmerling.com/ From edranem@dranem.org Wed Aug 9 12:56:01 2006 From: edranem@dranem.org (evets dranem) Date: Wed Aug 9 11:56:01 2006 Subject: saving config In-Reply-To: <200608090646.k796kC616022@realvnc.com> References: <200608090646.k796kC616022@realvnc.com> Message-ID: <44D9BEF9.8040808@dranem.org> Jeff Glaspie wrote: >Thanks for the input about the connection behind a router. I have it up and >running. I have one other question though and then I should be set. > >--> Since I am using IPs and ports I want to save the configurations. I >tried the options button on the interface and then save, but when I double > > click on the saved link (icon) it errors out. I then start VNC from >the general VNC interface and it works. I think that I have tried out every > > possible way except for the one that actually works. Can someone give >me clue what I am not doing wrong? > >Thanks, > >Jeff >_______________________________________________ >VNC-List mailing list >VNC-List@realvnc.com >To remove yourself from the list visit: >http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list > > We would need to know what the error message says 8-) Does the created file icon look like VNC? From ghullii@yahoo.de Thu Aug 10 04:00:01 2006 From: ghullii@yahoo.de (g. Kirca) Date: Thu Aug 10 03:00:01 2006 Subject: QueryConnectDialog(59ba68):changeDesktop failed Message-ID: <20060810015900.61562.qmail@web27707.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> While connecting to VNC-Host (4.1.1) under W2K Professional from Windows XP, I get the error in the subject. VNC-Server is running as service, password is povided. Details from WinVNC4.log (created via HKLM//....//Log:*:file:10) follow here: >>> snip Thu Aug 10 03:38:12 2006 Connections: accepted: 192.168.178.25::1290 Thu Aug 10 03:38:15 2006 Threading: failed QueryConnectDialog(59cac0):changeDesktop failed Connections: closed: 192.168.178.25::1290 (Connection rejected by user) <<< snap What's going wrong here? Thanks in advance to all Gueltekin ___________________________________________________________ Der fr|he Vogel fdngt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de From anthony_van_pyre@hotmail.com Thu Aug 10 06:01:00 2006 From: anthony_van_pyre@hotmail.com (ANTHONY VAN PYRE) Date: Thu Aug 10 05:01:00 2006 Subject: WINDOWS EVENT ENTRIES SHOW REAL VNC CONNECTION WHEN I HAVENT CONNECTED In-Reply-To: <20060810035401.6218.17159.Mailman@realvnc.com> Message-ID: hi folks im seeing the following in my windows event list i havent connected via vnc in ages but i still keep it in my start up in case i need to. heres what i see Connections: accepted: 75.31.249.16::1550 Connections: closed: 75.31.249.16::1550 (Requested security type not available) Connections: accepted: 216.218.96.12::61887 Connections: closed: 216.218.96.12::61887 (Requested security type not available) Connections: accepted: 75.18.49.112::3429 Connections: closed: 75.18.49.112::3429 (write: Connection reset by peer (10054)) Connections: accepted: 89.32.191.29::3770 Connections: closed: 89.32.191.29::3770 (Requested security type not available) Connections: accepted: 89.32.191.29::2508 ocketManager: unknown listener event: 0 (error with vnc listed) Connections: closed: 89.32.191.29::2508 (Clean disconnection) theres more and they are from different ips any ideas? From rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com Thu Aug 10 08:23:01 2006 From: rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com (Robert Van Overmeiren) Date: Thu Aug 10 07:23:01 2006 Subject: Connection not allowed to own service freedesktop due to security policies Message-ID: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FBA@mail.vcommerce.local> I could use some help with a VNC authentication problem. I run VNC Free 4.1.1 on Fedora 5, and it tests OK locally with vncviewer. For remote access, I must go through a Linux SSH gateway. A few of my associates have VNC'd through this gateway, and I can invoke the VNCauth login box to their workstations using my account on this gateway. So I know that port forwarding for 5901 is working, though I'm unable to get details on if this is implemented using source and destination targets in the NAT table, or some other method. When I log into the SSH gateway from the LAN and attempt to connect using vncviewer, I get 'connection timed out (110)'. When my associates log into this gateway from the LAN and attempt to connect to my box using vncviewer, they also get 'connection timed out (110)'. When I login to the SSH gateway remotely, using Cygwin openssh or Mindterm running on Windoz XP, I get 'unable to open display ""'. I'm trying to narrow the source of the problem down from several possibilities: SSH key generation. My workstation has a 2nd account which matches my account on the SSH gateway. I originally generated SSH keys and pass phrase under my 1st account, which is different, and SSH'd to the SSH gateway from the LAN under my 1st account before trying the 2nd matching account. With VNCing from the gateway under the matching account, to vncserver started by the different account not working, I stopped the server, started it under the matching account, logged in the gateway under the matching account and re-tested but connection still times out with no VNCauth box. The first time I SSH'd from gateway to workstation I got the error 'keychain: command not found, /home/user/.keychain/user.domain.com-sh: No such file or directory'. My associates have the keychain files, but I didn't so again suspected some error when generating SSH keys and so I installed keychain. Still no remote VNC though. Workstation config and auth files /home/user/.vnc/passwd /home/user/.bash_profile (does this need host, user, passwd environment vars?) /home/user/.ssh/known_hosts (Seems to be OK to delete the .ssh directory. It gets rebuilt, but doing so doesn't help problem) /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers (does this need anything?) Gateway config and auth files No /home/user/.vnc/ directory? /home/user/.bash_profile (does this need host, user, passwd environment vars?) /home/user/.ssh/known_hosts (Need to be cleared out?) RealVNC Free uses a Challenge Response auth mechanism and it seems like my workstation doesn't trust the SSH keys from the gateway. My administrator says I need to set up a file on the gateway with host, user and password, that he found out about it by googeling, and that's what I need to make it work. Would this be .bash_profile? I can't reproduce the action that generated it, but the VNC server log had this window manager warning about freedesktop service ownership not allowed due to security policy: SESSION_MANAGER=local/user.domain.com:/tmp/.ICE-unix/9526 Window manager warning: Log level 32: could not find XKB extension. ** (nm-applet:9592): WARNING **: nma_dbus_init (): nma_dbus_init() could not acquire its service. dbus_bus_acquire_service() says: 'Connection ":1.86" is not allowed to own the service "org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo" due to security policies in the configuration file' Does this warning provide a clue about my problem? How can I troubleshoot this VNC connection problem systematically? What other logs should I look at other than what's in /home/username/.vnc/ on the VNC server box. Best regards, Robert Van Overmeiren Software Engineer From cbeerse@gmail.com Thu Aug 10 11:43:00 2006 From: cbeerse@gmail.com (Corne Beerse) Date: Thu Aug 10 10:43:00 2006 Subject: using VNC display(s) to generate images on a webserver In-Reply-To: <44C785A2.9000804@st.com> References: <44C785A2.9000804@st.com> Message-ID: <44DAFF63.8000904@gmail.com> Paul ROBINS wrote: > Hello, > > I'm new here. Sorry if the answer to my questions exist somewhere in > the archives - I did search but couldn't find anything. Sorry this is > a bit long, I wanted to explain what I need as clearly as possible: > > I have an intranet web server that allows our users to browse a > hierarchy of data files which represent graphs. On selecting a data > file the server runs a kind of cgi executable that transforms the file > into a graph image and serves it up in an html page. The executable is > ours and unfortunately cannot run without an X display to generate a > pixmap, which is where VNC comes in very handy :) > > I'm currently just testing the whole thing using a single VNC server > on the webserver for all requests and it works - but what I want to > avoid is "graphical collisions" on the VNC server's display when > making the images, i.e. one users pixmap obscuring anothers. So > ideally I'd like to create a VNC server per user session. I'm using > PHP sessions by the way attribute session ids. > > The problem I have is knowing when a particular VNC display is no > longer needed. I know when a user initially connects and requests an > image so I could at that point create a VNC server and register that > display as belonging to the session. The user would continue to > generate images on "his/her" server/display as long as their session > was open. As I said though I don't really know when the session ends > so I'd end up with an awful lot of inactive VNC servers running after > a short time :( > > I could use inetd to run VNC, but that would bring up a server per > image request, which seems like a lot of stopping/starting to me ;) > and I guess would be slower. (a user may look at many tens of graphs > per session). > > What I'd really like to do is have a users VNC server die quietly > after a defined period of inactivity but I can't find any option to do > this. I know this goes against the usual idea of keeping a VNC server > alive but for this kind of usage it would be a really handy! > This sure is a nice (ab) use of Xvnc! If a sinlge user can use one Xvnc session, you can start an Xvnc for each user or for each session. Your session IDs can be the $DISPLAY values, however, best to keep the numbers below 64 or even 32 since the display number relates to 2 or 3 ports: 6000, 5900 (and optionally 5800) with added the display nummer. ON the other hand, a different setup can be the use of the java-viewer: Then the user gets the X display in the browser and in there the display of the graphs. This nicely controlls the session however, be sure to start the java-viewer readonly (if possible). Success, CBee From randybenson@wrbenson.com Thu Aug 10 21:12:01 2006 From: randybenson@wrbenson.com (randy benson) Date: Thu Aug 10 20:12:01 2006 Subject: Group Policy settings - VNC timeout if using just servername in VNC client Message-ID: <003501c6bcb0$d52956c0$080c0b0a@wrbenson.local> Hi folks: I'm trying to set firewall/port settings in Windows 2003 Group Policy for a local domain group of workstations, and I'm stumped. I've set program exceptions for VNC4.exe and vncviewer.exe and opened TCP ports 5500, 5800 and 5900 to the localsubnet. I can ping all the workstations by name and by ip address. I can telnet to all the workstations by typing telnet workstationname 5900. I can connect over VNC if I go to the workstation (vnc server) and manually add the client by right-clicking the VNC tray icon and clicking on 'Add Client'. I can connect with VNC viewer if I type in the ip address or the FQDN of the server in the VNC viewer. But when I attempt to connect from a VNC client by typing only the server name, I get 'Unable to connect to host: Connection timed out (10060) and in the event viewer I get: Event Type: Information Event Source: WinVNC4 Event Category: None Event ID: 1 Date: 8/10/2006 Time: 11:55:36 AM User: N/A Computer: DZ7XK Description: Connections: closed: 10.11.12.3::3444 (reading version failed: not an RFB client?) Admittedly this is a small quibble, but I never had to type in the ip address or FQDN before, just the VNC server's name. I'm stumped -- anybody know where I've gone wrong (Other than my public school upbringing)? TIA, Randy Benson W. R. Benson & Associates Professional Land Surveyors Los Angeles, California, USA From stephentfisher@yahoo.com Fri Aug 11 00:34:01 2006 From: stephentfisher@yahoo.com (Stephen Fisher) Date: Thu Aug 10 23:34:01 2006 Subject: Packet dissection: server framebuffer update messages Message-ID: <20060810223314.GA7118@ux1sjc1.calicat.org> I am writing a VNC packet dissector for Wireshark and have a few questions about the VNC RFB protocol. I'm referring to http://www.realvnc.com/docs/rfbproto.pdf to develop this code and am about 3/4 of the way through. My first question is about the Server Framebuffer Update message. Can it span multiple packets? All of the other types stay within one packet. However, when my dissector comes across Server Framebufer Updates, the first is malformed (I'm expecting more bytes than are present) and the next few packets (or more) do not start with the standard message type field at the top, which makes me think that they're a continuation of the previous packet. Thanks, Steve From randybenson@wrbenson.com Fri Aug 11 00:45:01 2006 From: randybenson@wrbenson.com (randy benson) Date: Thu Aug 10 23:45:01 2006 Subject: FW: Group Policy settings - VNC timeout if using just servername in VNC client Message-ID: <004e01c6bccd$a392eaf0$080c0b0a@wrbenson.local> Stumped no more -- it was a bad entry in the client's windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts file. -----Original Message----- From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of randy benson Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 12:12 PM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Group Policy settings - VNC timeout if using just servername in VNC client Hi folks: I'm trying to set firewall/port settings in Windows 2003 Group Policy for a local domain group of workstations, and I'm stumped. From rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com Fri Aug 11 01:04:03 2006 From: rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com (Robert Van Overmeiren) Date: Fri Aug 11 00:04:03 2006 Subject: FW: Connection not allowed to own service freedesktop due to security policies Message-ID: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FBF@mail.vcommerce.local> Well, I installed the missing libraries and can start the server and set a password, so now I'am now dealing with the 8 year old issue of getting the right font libraries in place so vncviewer can start. You're probably familiar with it... /usr/bin/xsetroot: unable to open display -----Original Message----- From: Robert Van Overmeiren Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 3:34 PM To: evets dranem Subject: RE: Connection not allowed to own service freedesktop due to security policies Is this supposed to fix my issue, or just ensure that if I do get it working, I'll be a little more secure? I'm running fedora 5 where you install with 'yum install vncserver', now that I downloaded this new one and ran './vncinstall /usr/local/bin', I'm getting: Xvnc: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory /usr/bin/xsetroot: unable to open display 'user.domian.com:1' xrdb: Connection refused xrdb: Can't open display 'user.domian.com:1' xmodmap: unable to open display 'user.domian.com:1' Why would I be getting this issue now? -----Original Message----- From: evets dranem [mailto:edranem@dranem.org] Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 11:39 AM To: Robert Van Overmeiren Subject: Re: Connection not allowed to own service freedesktop due to security policies Robert Van Overmeiren wrote: >Does this warning provide a clue about my problem? > >How can I troubleshoot this VNC connection problem systematically? > >What other logs should I look at other than what's in >/home/username/.vnc/ on the VNC server box. > >Best regards, > >Robert Van Overmeiren > >Software Engineer >_______________________________________________ >VNC-List mailing list >VNC-List@realvnc.com >To remove yourself from the list visit: >http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list > please update to 4.1.2; [or ensure that the 4.1.1 has it fixedin the source] 4.1.1 has a nasty security bug where a maliious client can cause a connection with no password to be required. [client over rides server] front page of www.realvnc.com has link to may 12 or march 12 fix download at top From edranem@dranem.org Fri Aug 11 05:10:01 2006 From: edranem@dranem.org (evets dranem) Date: Fri Aug 11 04:10:01 2006 Subject: Connection not allowed to own service freedesktop due to security policies In-Reply-To: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FBE@mail.vcommerce.local> References: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FBE@mail.vcommerce.local> Message-ID: <44DBF4E9.9090506@dranem.org> maybe you could try yum libstdc++ ???? More than a little secure ...... You need to find out from someone at fedora if they fixed the 411 rremote access bug; which is ENTIRELY NASTY IF EXPLOITED [the bad guys will own your machine(s)] then you won't have to update but....................... Robert Van Overmeiren wrote: >Is this supposed to fix my issue, or just ensure that if I do get it >working, I'll be a little more secure? > >I'm running fedora 5 where you install with 'yum install vncserver', now >that I downloaded this new one and ran './vncinstall /usr/local/bin', >I'm getting: > >Xvnc: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: >cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory >/usr/bin/xsetroot: unable to open display 'user.domian.com:1' >xrdb: Connection refused >xrdb: Can't open display 'user.domian.com:1' >xmodmap: unable to open display 'user.domian.com:1' > >Why would I be getting this issue now? > >-----Original Message----- >From: evets dranem [mailto:edranem@dranem.org] >Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 11:39 AM >To: Robert Van Overmeiren >Subject: Re: Connection not allowed to own service freedesktop due to >security policies > >Robert Van Overmeiren wrote: > > > >>Does this warning provide a clue about my problem? >> >>How can I troubleshoot this VNC connection problem systematically? >> >>What other logs should I look at other than what's in >>/home/username/.vnc/ on the VNC server box. >> >>Best regards, >> >>Robert Van Overmeiren >> >>Software Engineer >>_______________________________________________ >>VNC-List mailing list >>VNC-List@realvnc.com >>To remove yourself from the list visit: >>http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list >> >> >> > > >please update to 4.1.2; [or ensure that the 4.1.1 has it fixedin the >source] >4.1.1 has a nasty security bug where a maliious client can cause a >connection with no password to be required. >[client over rides server] > >front page of www.realvnc.com has link to may 12 or march 12 fix >download at top From jnw@realvnc.com Fri Aug 11 11:35:00 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Fri Aug 11 10:35:00 2006 Subject: Packet dissection: server framebuffer update messages In-Reply-To: <20060810223314.GA7118@ux1sjc1.calicat.org> Message-ID: <000001c6bd29$65874330$06000100@sturton.local> Stephen, Current VNC implementations run the RFB protocol over TCP rather than over a packet-based transport. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Fisher > Sent: 10 August 2006 23:33 > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Packet dissection: server framebuffer update messages > > I am writing a VNC packet dissector for Wireshark and have a few > questions about the VNC RFB protocol. I'm referring to > http://www.realvnc.com/docs/rfbproto.pdf to develop this code > and am about 3/4 of the way through. > > My first question is about the Server Framebuffer Update > message. Can > it span multiple packets? All of the other types stay within one > packet. However, when my dissector comes across Server Framebufer > Updates, the first is malformed (I'm expecting more bytes than are > present) and the next few packets (or more) do not start with the > standard message type field at the top, which makes me think that > they're a continuation of the previous packet. > > > Thanks, > Steve > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From whooper@freeshell.org Fri Aug 11 14:28:01 2006 From: whooper@freeshell.org (William Hooper) Date: Fri Aug 11 13:28:01 2006 Subject: Connection not allowed to own service freedesktop due to security policies In-Reply-To: <44DBF4E9.9090506@dranem.org> References: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FBE@mail.vcommerce.local> <44DBF4E9.9090506@dranem.org> Message-ID: <2088.70.61.179.202.1155299222.squirrel@whooper.org> evets dranem wrote: > maybe you could try yum libstdc++ ???? > More than a little secure ...... > You need to find out from someone at fedora if they fixed the 411 > rremote access bug; which is ENTIRELY NASTY IF EXPLOITED [the bad guys will > own your machine(s)] then you won't have to update > but....................... You can just look at the RPM changelog to see it was fixed. * Fri May 26 2006 Jitka Kudrnacova 4.1.1-39.fc5 - enable OpenGL by default * Wed May 17 2006 Jitka Kudrnacova 4.1.1-38.fc5 - really fixed authentication * Tue May 16 2006 Jitka Kudrnacova 4.1.1-37.fc5 - Fixed authentication (bug #191692), upstream patch -- William Hooper From rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com Fri Aug 11 18:23:00 2006 From: rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com (Robert Van Overmeiren) Date: Fri Aug 11 17:23:00 2006 Subject: main: unable to connect to host: Connection timed out (110) Message-ID: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FC3@mail.vcommerce.local> I can run vncserver, and test locally with vncviewer 10.3.1.194:1. From a port forward configured SSH gateway, I can connect with vncviewer to an associates box, but connection to my box times out. I think there's a problem with SSH keys. I was advised to upgrade to 4.2.1, which I did in /usr/local/bin/. I got 'libstdc ... No such file or directory' so did yum install libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3. Then I got '/usr/bin/xsetroot: unable to open display' so uncommented the font path section in vncserver and changed 'lib' to 'shared' in the paths. I didn't know how to check that the patches were applied, but am not so concerned with VNC version as I am with the connection time out problem. I use Eclipse IDE and was given an eclipse font style file (.gtkrc-2.0) to add to my home directory, so thought maybe I can't remote VNC because the remote VNC server can't render the font. With my upgraded VNC working, I can again connect locally with vncviewer, but not from the SSH gateway. I tried it without Eclipse running, but makes no difference. I don't see the connection attempt in the vncserver log. Where can I get more info? What log on the SSH gateway can I look at. There's no VNC log on the gateway, should there be? I can't view logs in /root/.vnc/. -----Original Message----- From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of William Hooper Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 5:27 AM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: Connection not allowed to own service freedesktop due to security policies evets dranem wrote: > maybe you could try yum libstdc++ ???? > More than a little secure ...... > You need to find out from someone at fedora if they fixed the 411 > rremote access bug; which is ENTIRELY NASTY IF EXPLOITED [the bad guys will > own your machine(s)] then you won't have to update > but....................... You can just look at the RPM changelog to see it was fixed. * Fri May 26 2006 Jitka Kudrnacova 4.1.1-39.fc5 - enable OpenGL by default * Wed May 17 2006 Jitka Kudrnacova 4.1.1-38.fc5 - really fixed authentication * Tue May 16 2006 Jitka Kudrnacova 4.1.1-37.fc5 - Fixed authentication (bug #191692), upstream patch -- William Hooper _______________________________________________ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From whooper@freeshell.org Fri Aug 11 19:32:01 2006 From: whooper@freeshell.org (William Hooper) Date: Fri Aug 11 18:32:01 2006 Subject: main: unable to connect to host: Connection timed out (110) In-Reply-To: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FC3@mail.vcommerce.local> References: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FC3@mail.vcommerce.local> Message-ID: <11409.70.61.179.202.1155317497.squirrel@whooper.org> Robert Van Overmeiren wrote: > I can run vncserver, and test locally with vncviewer 10.3.1.194:1. From > a port forward configured SSH gateway, I can connect with vncviewer to an > associates box, but connection to my box times out. I think there's a > problem with SSH keys. I highly doubt it since VNC doesn't use SSH keys. Start with the basics. Copy and paste what commands you are using and what output they are generating. -- William Hooper From whooper@freeshell.org Fri Aug 11 20:11:01 2006 From: whooper@freeshell.org (William Hooper) Date: Fri Aug 11 19:11:01 2006 Subject: main: unable to connect to host: Connection timed out (110) In-Reply-To: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FC6@mail.vcommerce.local> References: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FC6@mail.vcommerce.local> Message-ID: <13783.70.61.179.202.1155319818.squirrel@whooper.org> Please send replies to the VNC list. Robert Van Overmeiren wrote: > Well, as user 'rvanovermeiren', I start vncserver: > > > $ vncserver (works OK) > > > Then, I test viewer from localhost > > > $ vncviewer :1 (works OK. I can get a textual or graphic desktop) This tells you nothing of the status of any firewalls on 10.3.1.194, though. > I connect to the SSH gateway, and invoke viewer on an associates IP: > > > $ ssh -X rvanovermeiren@merrimack > $ vncviewer 10.3.1.78:1 (invokes the VNCauth box OK) > > > I try to connect with vncviewer to my IP: > > > $ vncviewer 10.3.1.194:1 (connection times out) I assume this is after you have used SSH to connect to the gateway machine? > > If I knew what log to view, I might find why its not working. I know > port forwarding is working None of your examples use port forwarding, only a remote X tunnel from SSH. > and I doubt the admins are blocking my specific > IP. Is there a firewall on your machine blocking connections, though. Another troubleshooting step would be to use telnet to verify you can connect to the machine: $ telnet 10.3.1.194 5901 And see if you get a response. -- William Hooper From rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com Fri Aug 11 21:43:00 2006 From: rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com (Robert Van Overmeiren) Date: Fri Aug 11 20:43:00 2006 Subject: main: unable to connect to host: Connection timed out (110) Message-ID: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FC7@mail.vcommerce.local> > status of any firewalls on 10.3.1.194 Its just a Fedora/Gnome workstation. I haven't setup any firewalls. How would I check this? I've seen this in the logs, maybe there's an x session authorization issue? Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. > (connection times out) I assume this is after you have used SSH to connect to the gateway machine? Yes > None of your examples use port forwarding, only a remote X tunnel from SSH. I can invoke VNCauth on other systems from the SSH gateway, and I was told that the tunneling was all I needed. The hardware is different, and they may be running an older Fedora, so I guess the systems are too different to compare. I've seen had an example of a connection command with ports for forwarding but can't find it. What command would work for my situation? -----Original Message----- From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of William Hooper Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 11:10 AM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: main: unable to connect to host: Connection timed out (110) Please send replies to the VNC list. Robert Van Overmeiren wrote: > Well, as user 'rvanovermeiren', I start vncserver: > > > $ vncserver (works OK) > > > Then, I test viewer from localhost > > > $ vncviewer :1 (works OK. I can get a textual or graphic desktop) This tells you nothing of the status of any firewalls on 10.3.1.194, though. > I connect to the SSH gateway, and invoke viewer on an associates IP: > > > $ ssh -X rvanovermeiren@merrimack > $ vncviewer 10.3.1.78:1 (invokes the VNCauth box OK) > > > I try to connect with vncviewer to my IP: > > > $ vncviewer 10.3.1.194:1 (connection times out) I assume this is after you have used SSH to connect to the gateway machine? > > If I knew what log to view, I might find why its not working. I know > port forwarding is working None of your examples use port forwarding, only a remote X tunnel from SSH. > and I doubt the admins are blocking my specific > IP. Is there a firewall on your machine blocking connections, though. Another troubleshooting step would be to use telnet to verify you can connect to the machine: $ telnet 10.3.1.194 5901 And see if you get a response. -- William Hooper _______________________________________________ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com Fri Aug 11 21:53:01 2006 From: rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com (Robert Van Overmeiren) Date: Fri Aug 11 20:53:01 2006 Subject: main: unable to connect to host: Connection timed out (110) Message-ID: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FC8@mail.vcommerce.local> PS, when I tested telnet port 5901 from the SSH gateway to the workstation, it also timed out. I can ping and SSH though. How do I open up port 5901? -----Original Message----- From: Robert Van Overmeiren Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 12:42 PM To: 'VNC-List@realvnc.com' Subject: RE: main: unable to connect to host: Connection timed out (110) > status of any firewalls on 10.3.1.194 Its just a Fedora/Gnome workstation. I haven't setup any firewalls. How would I check this? I've seen this in the logs, maybe there's an x session authorization issue? Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. > (connection times out) I assume this is after you have used SSH to connect to the gateway machine? Yes > None of your examples use port forwarding, only a remote X tunnel from SSH. I can invoke VNCauth on other systems from the SSH gateway, and I was told that the tunneling was all I needed. The hardware is different, and they may be running an older Fedora, so I guess the systems are too different to compare. I've seen had an example of a connection command with ports for forwarding but can't find it. What command would work for my situation? -----Original Message----- From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of William Hooper Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 11:10 AM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: main: unable to connect to host: Connection timed out (110) Please send replies to the VNC list. Robert Van Overmeiren wrote: > Well, as user 'rvanovermeiren', I start vncserver: > > > $ vncserver (works OK) > > > Then, I test viewer from localhost > > > $ vncviewer :1 (works OK. I can get a textual or graphic desktop) This tells you nothing of the status of any firewalls on 10.3.1.194, though. > I connect to the SSH gateway, and invoke viewer on an associates IP: > > > $ ssh -X rvanovermeiren@merrimack > $ vncviewer 10.3.1.78:1 (invokes the VNCauth box OK) > > > I try to connect with vncviewer to my IP: > > > $ vncviewer 10.3.1.194:1 (connection times out) I assume this is after you have used SSH to connect to the gateway machine? > > If I knew what log to view, I might find why its not working. I know > port forwarding is working None of your examples use port forwarding, only a remote X tunnel from SSH. > and I doubt the admins are blocking my specific > IP. Is there a firewall on your machine blocking connections, though. Another troubleshooting step would be to use telnet to verify you can connect to the machine: $ telnet 10.3.1.194 5901 And see if you get a response. -- William Hooper _______________________________________________ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com Fri Aug 11 22:10:00 2006 From: rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com (Robert Van Overmeiren) Date: Fri Aug 11 21:10:00 2006 Subject: main: unable to connect to host: Connection timed out (110) Message-ID: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FC9@mail.vcommerce.local> I connected! Logged into SSH gateway: $ ssh -X rvanovermeiren@merrimack Binded ports: $ ssh -f -N -C -T -l rvanovermeiren -L5902:localhost:5901 10.3.1.194 Then vncviewer: $ vncviewer [-shared] localhost:2 How do I unbind the ports? Does the binding persist until I do? Now I have to try connecting remotely using Cygwin openssh on Windoz XP. -----Original Message----- From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Robert Van Overmeiren Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 12:46 PM To: VNC-List@realvnc.com Subject: RE: main: unable to connect to host: Connection timed out (110) PS, when I tested telnet port 5901 from the SSH gateway to the workstation, it also timed out. I can ping and SSH though. How do I open up port 5901? -----Original Message----- From: Robert Van Overmeiren Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 12:42 PM To: 'VNC-List@realvnc.com' Subject: RE: main: unable to connect to host: Connection timed out (110) > status of any firewalls on 10.3.1.194 Its just a Fedora/Gnome workstation. I haven't setup any firewalls. How would I check this? I've seen this in the logs, maybe there's an x session authorization issue? Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. > (connection times out) I assume this is after you have used SSH to connect to the gateway machine? Yes > None of your examples use port forwarding, only a remote X tunnel from SSH. I can invoke VNCauth on other systems from the SSH gateway, and I was told that the tunneling was all I needed. The hardware is different, and they may be running an older Fedora, so I guess the systems are too different to compare. I've seen had an example of a connection command with ports for forwarding but can't find it. What command would work for my situation? -----Original Message----- From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of William Hooper Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 11:10 AM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: main: unable to connect to host: Connection timed out (110) Please send replies to the VNC list. Robert Van Overmeiren wrote: > Well, as user 'rvanovermeiren', I start vncserver: > > > $ vncserver (works OK) > > > Then, I test viewer from localhost > > > $ vncviewer :1 (works OK. I can get a textual or graphic desktop) This tells you nothing of the status of any firewalls on 10.3.1.194, though. > I connect to the SSH gateway, and invoke viewer on an associates IP: > > > $ ssh -X rvanovermeiren@merrimack > $ vncviewer 10.3.1.78:1 (invokes the VNCauth box OK) > > > I try to connect with vncviewer to my IP: > > > $ vncviewer 10.3.1.194:1 (connection times out) I assume this is after you have used SSH to connect to the gateway machine? > > If I knew what log to view, I might find why its not working. I know > port forwarding is working None of your examples use port forwarding, only a remote X tunnel from SSH. > and I doubt the admins are blocking my specific > IP. Is there a firewall on your machine blocking connections, though. Another troubleshooting step would be to use telnet to verify you can connect to the machine: $ telnet 10.3.1.194 5901 And see if you get a response. -- William Hooper _______________________________________________ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list _______________________________________________ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From whooper@freeshell.org Fri Aug 11 22:25:01 2006 From: whooper@freeshell.org (William Hooper) Date: Fri Aug 11 21:25:01 2006 Subject: main: unable to connect to host: Connection timed out (110) In-Reply-To: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FC7@mail.vcommerce.local> References: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FC7@mail.vcommerce.local> Message-ID: <18452.70.61.179.202.1155327835.squirrel@whooper.org> Robert Van Overmeiren wrote: >> status of any firewalls on 10.3.1.194 > > Its just a Fedora/Gnome workstation. I haven't setup any firewalls. The firewall is on by default. Did you disable it during installation? > How > would I check this? /sbin/service iptables status > I've seen this in the logs, maybe there's an x session > authorization issue? If you can connect to the VNC server fine from the local machine, but not the network then it is a network issue. [snip] >> None of your examples use port forwarding, only a remote X tunnel from >> > SSH. > > > I can invoke VNCauth on other systems from the SSH gateway, Which leads us to believe the problem is communication with that specific machine. > and I was > told that the tunneling was all I needed. You aren't tunneling. > The hardware is different, and > they may be running an older Fedora, so I guess the systems are too > different to compare. > > I've seen had an example of a connection command with ports for > forwarding but can't find it. What command would work for my situation? If the issue is a local firewall, the only tunneling that would work would be: a) create a tunnel on the gateway to SSH on the problem machine b) create a tunnel (via the first tunnel) to VNC on the problem machine Unless you need the traffic from the gateway to the VNC machine encrypted, it would be easier to fix this issue then just use one tunnel from the gateway to the VNC server. http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/DTG/attarchive/vnc/sshvnc.html -- William Hooper From whooper@freeshell.org Fri Aug 11 22:28:00 2006 From: whooper@freeshell.org (William Hooper) Date: Fri Aug 11 21:28:00 2006 Subject: main: unable to connect to host: Connection timed out (110) In-Reply-To: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FC9@mail.vcommerce.local> References: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FC9@mail.vcommerce.local> Message-ID: <18518.70.61.179.202.1155328022.squirrel@whooper.org> Robert Van Overmeiren wrote: > I connected! > > > Logged into SSH gateway: > > > $ ssh -X rvanovermeiren@merrimack > > > Binded ports: Not "binded", tunneled. > $ ssh -f -N -C -T -l rvanovermeiren -L5902:localhost:5901 10.3.1.194 Notice that this is using the SSH port for communication. That is why it works when connecting directly to the VNC server doesn't. > Then vncviewer: > > > $ vncviewer [-shared] localhost:2 > > > How do I unbind the ports? You close the tunnel by closing the SSH connection. -- William Hooper From whooper@freeshell.org Fri Aug 11 22:30:01 2006 From: whooper@freeshell.org (William Hooper) Date: Fri Aug 11 21:30:01 2006 Subject: behind a router In-Reply-To: <200608080505.k7855c610452@realvnc.com> References: <200608080505.k7855c610452@realvnc.com> Message-ID: <18613.70.61.179.202.1155328182.squirrel@whooper.org> Jeff Glaspie wrote: [snip] > My concern is that I don't want to > use the defaults and would like to start my ports at something like 51000. > Does > that mean that VNC will automatically know that 51000 will be "0" and so > on?? I just would like to make sure. No, you would have to use the address::port syntax. > --> Another think is that inorder to port forward, VNC has to have 5900 > TCP > 5500 TCP and 5800 TCP ports open to connect to the machine. VNC only needs one port (5900 by default). If you want to serve the java viewer, you need two ports (5900 and 5800 by default). Port 5500 is for the listening viewer, not the server. -- William Hooper From rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com Fri Aug 11 22:45:01 2006 From: rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com (Robert Van Overmeiren) Date: Fri Aug 11 21:45:01 2006 Subject: main: unable to connect to host: Connection timed out (110) Message-ID: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FCA@mail.vcommerce.local> > /sbin/service iptables status Firewall is not configured. > problem is communication with that specific machine. Yes, I thought so. > a) create a tunnel on the gateway to SSH on the problem machine > b) create a tunnel (via the first tunnel) to VNC on the problem machine That might be what I did with the SSH command in my other posting ssh -f -N -C -T -l rvanovermeiren -L5902:localhost:5901 10.3.1.194 > Not "binded", tunneled. When I run the command again, it returns 'bind: Address already in use', so I thought I was binding ports to addresses. > Notice that this is using the SSH port for communication. That is why it works when connecting directly to the VNC server doesn't. Yes, so my box doesn't allow external connections for telnet or VNC. > You close the tunnel by closing the SSH connection. I can close my connection to the SSH gateway, but the tunneling connection stays there, and I can re-VNC. I guess I need to get the proc ID then kill it? From rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com Sat Aug 12 01:08:00 2006 From: rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com (Robert Van Overmeiren) Date: Sat Aug 12 00:08:00 2006 Subject: FW: main: unable to connect to host: Connection timed out (110) Message-ID: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FCE@mail.vcommerce.local> I executed 'iptables stop' and now the port is open. Thx for setting me straight :) -----Original Message----- From: Robert Van Overmeiren Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 1:45 PM To: 'VNC-List@realvnc.com' Subject: RE: main: unable to connect to host: Connection timed out (110) > /sbin/service iptables status Firewall is not configured. From rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com Sat Aug 12 07:58:00 2006 From: rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com (Robert Van Overmeiren) Date: Sat Aug 12 06:58:00 2006 Subject: unable to open display Message-ID: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FCF@mail.vcommerce.local> Hello, I'd like to use Cygwin and openSSH (Windoz XP) to connect to an SSH gateway (Linux) and view a vncserver running on a workstation (Fedora5 Linux). I've upgraded to Free VNC 4.2.1, configured font paths, tested textual and graphical desktop, and was able to run vncviewer while SSH'd into the gateway from the workstation (also the vncserver). Since I can log into the gateway from a gnome client (Fedora), and invoke a remote vncviewer successfully, but when I log into the gateway from a cygwin client (XP) and invoke the remote vncviewer, I get 'unable to open display', I think there's a problem with Cygwin's gnome libraries. On my cygwin, I believe I installed all the network and gnome packages. Do I need more xwindow packages or does vncviewer need to be added? I'm just connecting to the gateway with: $ ssh -X username@gateway Then I run vncviewer $ vncviewer workstation:1 There's a lot you can do with xstartup settings and ssh commands. Should I do it differently? I tried this on the gateway: DISPLAY=:0.0 ssh -f -Y -l username@gateway gnome-session ...but got: Cannot fork into background without a command to execute I tried the same on the workstation DISPLAY=:0.0 ssh -f -Y -l username@workstation gnome-session ...but got: Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11 forwarding. Xlib: connection to "localhost:10.0" refused by server Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key (gnome-session:30816): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display What are the correct packages and commands for making this vncviewer connection? Thx, Robert Van Overmeiren From realvnc@pklala.net Sat Aug 12 17:52:00 2006 From: realvnc@pklala.net (Prasun Lala) Date: Sat Aug 12 16:52:00 2006 Subject: realvnc 4.1 security issue Message-ID: hi, i just learned about the security problem with 4.1 (as someone logged onto my windows machine as i was using it). checking my event log over the passed few months i see that remote ips have logged onto my machine a dozen times. all the logons last at most a few seconds except for one in june which lasted a minute and a half. this particular user made changes to my registry switching virus protection settings off. i have set back the registry settings to what they were before. my question: any advice on where i should be looking for changes made to my computer/any actions taken with my computer beyond the event viewer? also i was wondering if anybody knows of any standard hacker scripts that are running exploiting this vulnerability, so i can have a better idea of what to look for. Thanks, Prasun From anthony_van_pyre@hotmail.com Sat Aug 12 20:36:01 2006 From: anthony_van_pyre@hotmail.com (ANTHONY VAN PYRE) Date: Sat Aug 12 19:36:01 2006 Subject: WINDOWS EVENT ENTRIES SHOW REAL VNC CONNECTION WHEN I HAVENT CONNECTED In-Reply-To: Message-ID: so no ideas on this? > >hi folks im seeing the following in my windows event list >i havent connected via vnc in ages but i still keep it in my start up in >case i need to. >heres what i see > >Connections: accepted: 75.31.249.16::1550 > >Connections: closed: 75.31.249.16::1550 (Requested security type not >available) > > > >Connections: accepted: 216.218.96.12::61887 >Connections: closed: 216.218.96.12::61887 (Requested security type not >available) >Connections: accepted: 75.18.49.112::3429 >Connections: closed: 75.18.49.112::3429 (write: Connection reset by peer >(10054)) > > >Connections: accepted: 89.32.191.29::3770 > >Connections: closed: 89.32.191.29::3770 (Requested security type not >available) > > >Connections: accepted: 89.32.191.29::2508 >ocketManager: unknown listener event: 0 (error with vnc listed) >Connections: closed: 89.32.191.29::2508 (Clean disconnection) > > >theres more and they are from different ips >any ideas? >_______________________________________________ >VNC-List mailing list >VNC-List@realvnc.com >To remove yourself from the list visit: >http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From robin@robinhill.me.uk Sat Aug 12 21:02:01 2006 From: robin@robinhill.me.uk (Robin Hill) Date: Sat Aug 12 20:02:01 2006 Subject: WINDOWS EVENT ENTRIES SHOW REAL VNC CONNECTION WHEN I HAVENT CONNECTED In-Reply-To: References: <20060810035401.6218.17159.Mailman@realvnc.com> Message-ID: <20060812190057.GB30661@cthulhu.home.robinhill.me.uk> On Thu Aug 10, 2006 at 04:00:24AM +0000, ANTHONY VAN PYRE wrote: > hi folks im seeing the following in my windows event list > i havent connected via vnc in ages but i still keep it in my start up in > case i need to. > heres what i see > > Connections: accepted: 75.31.249.16::1550 > > Connections: closed: 75.31.249.16::1550 (Requested security type not > available) > > theres more and they are from different ips > any ideas? > I'd guess these are attempts to exploit the recent VNC security flaw. Presumably you're running either a newer or older version than those vulnerable (4.1 & 4.1.1 IIRC) as your server is rejecting the connections. HTH, Robin -- ___ ( ' } | Robin Hill | / / ) | Little Jim says .... | // !! | "He fallen in de water !!" | [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature] From rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com Sat Aug 12 22:18:01 2006 From: rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com (Robert Van Overmeiren) Date: Sat Aug 12 21:18:01 2006 Subject: unable to open display Message-ID: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FD0@mail.vcommerce.local> > What are the correct packages and commands for making this vncviewer connection? I VNC'd to my remote Fedora/Gnome workstation from my XP laptop by logging into a Windoz NT terminal server, using putty to configure an SSH port forward through a gateway server from my workstations VNC port to the terminal server's port 5905. Once the connection is made, I use VNC Viewer to connect to my workstation IP. When I set this up with putty on my XP box (connects to gateway's external IP), without going through the terminal server (connects to gateway's Internal IP), and attempt to connect with VNC Viewer on my XP box, I get the error 'unable to connect to host: Connection timed out (10060)'. When I telnet from gateway to workstation port 5900, connection is refused. Telnet to port 5901 returns RFB 003.008. Why does my connection time out? Does VNC viewer need to be configured for port 5905? Could some sort of Windoz XP firewall be blocking the connection? Regards, Bob V From rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com Sun Aug 13 07:10:01 2006 From: rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com (Robert Van Overmeiren) Date: Sun Aug 13 06:10:01 2006 Subject: connection timed out (10060) Message-ID: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FD1@mail.vcommerce.local> Sorry to respond to my own postings, but I've been trying to get connected. I checked my Windoz Firewall and its not running: Network Connection Properties > Advanced > Windoz Firewall > Settings > Off My home network goes through a WRT54G wireless switch which had firewall enabled so I disabled. Setup > Security > Firewall Protection > Disable The switch connects to a Suse Linux 8 firewall which connects to the cable modem. The Linux firewall may be causing the connection problem so I tried 'iptables stop' which didn't work like with Fedora. I never really put any rules on this firewall. The only thing it does is IP Masquerade so hosts on my LAN can share my Internet IP. 'iptables -F' flushes all rules, including IP Masquerade so doesn't really help. This box runs a script (in /usr/sbin/) called rcgateway when it boots. [excerpt from rcgateway] IPTABLES=/usr/sbin/iptables start) echo -n "Starting NAT gateway" $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -s 192.168.1.0/24 -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.0/24 -d ! 192.168.1.0/24 -j MASQUERADE When I view 'Linux Firewall' in Webmin, it says I have this, but 'enable firewall at boot time' is not checked. # Generated by iptables-save v1.2.5 on Thu Jan 9 00:23:06 1997 *mangle :PREROUTING ACCEPT [35916:14533626] :INPUT ACCEPT [3586:311421] :FORWARD ACCEPT [32330:14222205] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [4742:707656] :POSTROUTING ACCEPT [37072:14929861] COMMIT # Completed on Thu Jan 9 00:23:06 1997 # Generated by iptables-save v1.2.5 on Thu Jan 9 00:23:06 1997 *nat :PREROUTING ACCEPT [89759:15196152] :POSTROUTING ACCEPT [1460:110395] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [1458:110264] -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0 -d ! 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0 -j MASQUERADE COMMIT # Completed on Thu Jan 9 00:23:06 1997 # Generated by iptables-save v1.2.5 on Thu Jan 9 00:23:06 1997 *filter :INPUT ACCEPT [176235:28163886] :FORWARD ACCEPT [2935022:1574757455] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [148137:23874396] -A FORWARD -s 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0 -j ACCEPT COMMIT # Completed on Thu Jan 9 00:23:06 1997 I'm trying to figure out how to allow port 5900, while still having IP Masquerade? I'm going to try an add ALLOW command. -----Original Message----- From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Robert Van Overmeiren Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 1:18 PM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: unable to open display > What are the correct packages and commands for making this vncviewer connection? I VNC'd to my remote Fedora/Gnome workstation from my XP laptop by logging into a Windoz NT terminal server, using putty to configure an SSH port forward through a gateway server from my workstations VNC port to the terminal server's port 5905. Once the connection is made, I use VNC Viewer to connect to my workstation IP. When I set this up with putty on my XP box (connects to gateway's external IP), without going through the terminal server (connects to gateway's Internal IP), and attempt to connect with VNC Viewer on my XP box, I get the error 'unable to connect to host: Connection timed out (10060)'. When I telnet from gateway to workstation port 5900, connection is refused. Telnet to port 5901 returns RFB 003.008. Why does my connection time out? Does VNC viewer need to be configured for port 5905? Could some sort of Windoz XP firewall be blocking the connection? Regards, Bob V _______________________________________________ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From offer.kaye@gmail.com Sun Aug 13 13:32:00 2006 From: offer.kaye@gmail.com (Offer Kaye) Date: Sun Aug 13 12:32:00 2006 Subject: Desktop geometry dynamic change In-Reply-To: <200608071352.57786.jerry@westrick.com> References: <5694250608070452s20ec91c2mebdbcd405e598d92@mail.gmail.com> <200608071352.57786.jerry@westrick.com> Message-ID: <5694250608130431w2fc098c9hcb80c628e23ba82f@mail.gmail.com> On 8/7/06, Jerry Westrick wrote: > Use Nx? www.nomachine.com > > Jerry > How? Their front page claims their products are based on open-source, but the source downloads do not seem to include the server sources, and the client is useless without the server... Regards, Offer Kaye From robin@robinhill.me.uk Sun Aug 13 14:58:01 2006 From: robin@robinhill.me.uk (Robin Hill) Date: Sun Aug 13 13:58:01 2006 Subject: Desktop geometry dynamic change In-Reply-To: <5694250608130431w2fc098c9hcb80c628e23ba82f@mail.gmail.com> References: <5694250608070452s20ec91c2mebdbcd405e598d92@mail.gmail.com> <200608071352.57786.jerry@westrick.com> <5694250608130431w2fc098c9hcb80c628e23ba82f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060813125702.GA21043@cthulhu.home.robinhill.me.uk> On Sun Aug 13, 2006 at 02:31:04PM +0300, Offer Kaye wrote: > On 8/7/06, Jerry Westrick wrote: > >Use Nx? www.nomachine.com > > > >Jerry > > > > How? > Their front page claims their products are based on open-source, but > the source downloads do not seem to include the server sources, and > the client is useless without the server... > You might want to look at FreeNX (http://freenx.berlios.de/) - that's a GPL version of the NX server. HTH, Robin -- ___ ( ' } | Robin Hill | / / ) | Little Jim says .... | // !! | "He fallen in de water !!" | [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature] From jimmy@janimation.com Mon Aug 14 00:40:00 2006 From: jimmy@janimation.com (jimmy gass) Date: Sun Aug 13 23:40:00 2006 Subject: Noobie question Message-ID: <44DFAA10.2050204@janimation.com> My question is so general that I can't effectively search the archives. I've read the "documentation", the "faqs" etc.. but can't manage to find the answer. I'm trying to help the parents in another state by VNCing into their machine. I've had them download the latest VNC server. I've downloaded the latest VNC viewer. I've got their IP. Which is not through a router. I've had them go to the test page, and I've got their IP, but it doesn't connect to 5900. I've had them disable any anti virus software, they don't have any firewalls. They have set a password for authentication. But still I can not seem to connect to them. Do I need to look more into port forwarding? In the viewer window, I've tried, IP:0, IP:IP:0, IP. I don't know if I'm typing the path right. If it needs the password. I imagined that this should be a simple connect. I'm also sure that many people have done this with success. I just need a little nudge in the right direction. Any help is appreciated. Jimmy From cooch17@verizon.net Mon Aug 14 01:46:01 2006 From: cooch17@verizon.net (Evan Cooch) Date: Mon Aug 14 00:46:01 2006 Subject: Noobie question In-Reply-To: <44DFAA10.2050204@janimation.com> References: <44DFAA10.2050204@janimation.com> Message-ID: <44DFB978.8050903@verizon.net> I do this all the time - under exactly the same circumstances (my very elderly parents are forever bolixing their machine - VNC make it possible for me to solve 95% of their problems remotely - rather than driving the 600 or so km). Should be ip:0, if the server is set up to use :0. Basically, ip:n, where :n is the n of the screen they've set the server to. > > > In the viewer window, I've tried, IP:0, IP:IP:0, IP. I don't know if > I'm typing the path right. If it needs the password. > > I imagined that this should be a simple connect. I'm also sure that > many people have done this with success. I just need a little nudge in > the right direction. Any help is appreciated. > > Jimmy > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From whooper@freeshell.org Mon Aug 14 04:08:01 2006 From: whooper@freeshell.org (William Hooper) Date: Mon Aug 14 03:08:01 2006 Subject: unable to open display In-Reply-To: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FCF@mail.vcommerce.local> References: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FCF@mail.vcommerce.local> Message-ID: <2883.192.168.0.45.1155521273.squirrel@token> Robert Van Overmeiren wrote: [snip] > Since I can log into the gateway from a gnome client (Fedora), and > invoke a remote vncviewer successfully, but when I log into the gateway > from a cygwin client (XP) and invoke the remote vncviewer, I get 'unable > to open display', So it sounds like you problem is with cygwin, not VNC. Perhaps you will have better luck on a cygwin list? Have you started the cygwin X server? -- William Hooper From rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com Mon Aug 14 06:55:01 2006 From: rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com (Robert Van Overmeiren) Date: Mon Aug 14 05:55:01 2006 Subject: unable to open display References: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FCF@mail.vcommerce.local> <2883.192.168.0.45.1155521273.squirrel@token> Message-ID: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879164F9B@mail.vcommerce.local> I was told that I should use openSSH in Cygwin to make the forwarded connection to the gateway, then run vncviewer, but wasn't given many details. With vncserver working on my workstation, and it accessible remotely, I looked at using cygwin. After getting openSSH working in Cygwin, I tried vncviewer before I realized it wasn't in there. I couldn't find anything on adding vncviewer to cygwin, but saw mentioned that its easier just to use Windoz VNC Viewer. I found an article explaining how to make the forwarded connection using putty and knew that the terminal server had putty and Windoz VNC Viewer so tried it and it worked. When I connect with putty straight to the gateway (no Remote Desktop Connection connection to Terminal Server), then use VNC Viewer, I get connection timed out (10060). I think I know how to make the connection from the command line rather than with the putty interface so tried it with Cygwin: ssh -f -N -C -T -l username -L 5905:10.3.1.194:5900 [gateway external IP]. VNC Viewer with this connection also times out. I think my Linux firewall on my home LAN may be blocking. If I flush iptables, I loose my IP masquerade and connectivity, so I'm trying to find out how to add a rule to allow port 5900. The way I understand it, when you make the SSH port forwared connection through the gateway, it opens up a port (5905) on the users computer where the users VNC Viewer can pick up the vncserver. Maybe there's something stopping putty from opening up that port when making the connection with the gateway. What methods can I use to tshoot this? Regards, Robert Van Overmeiren So it sounds like you problem is with cygwin, not VNC. Perhaps you will have better luck on a cygwin list? Have you started the cygwin X server? -- William Hooper From jimmy@janimation.com Mon Aug 14 07:10:02 2006 From: jimmy@janimation.com (jimmy gass) Date: Mon Aug 14 06:10:02 2006 Subject: Noobie question In-Reply-To: <44DFB978.8050903@verizon.net> References: <44DFAA10.2050204@janimation.com> <44DFB978.8050903@verizon.net> Message-ID: <44E00585.9070802@janimation.com> Thanks for the reply. I must be dealing with a more advanced problem. I'm not able to connect. Is there something that I am not considering here? I'm using XP pro, the other machine is XP home. I'm connecting through a router through a cable modem. The machine on the other end is through a cable modem. Simply typing IP:5900 or IP:0 times out. I've tried connecting to the machine through putty, with my limited knowledge of that. Can't do that either. Do I need to somehow force that port to be open, or should VNC just see my connection coming in? Thanks for any help on this. Jimmy Evan Cooch wrote: > I do this all the time - under exactly the same circumstances (my very > elderly parents are forever bolixing their machine - VNC make it > possible for me to solve 95% of their problems remotely - rather than > driving the 600 or so km). > > Should be ip:0, if the server is set up to use :0. Basically, ip:n, > where :n is the n of the screen they've set the server to. >> >> >> In the viewer window, I've tried, IP:0, IP:IP:0, IP. I don't know if >> I'm typing the path right. If it needs the password. >> >> I imagined that this should be a simple connect. I'm also sure that >> many people have done this with success. I just need a little nudge >> in the right direction. Any help is appreciated. >> >> Jimmy >> _______________________________________________ >> VNC-List mailing list >> VNC-List@realvnc.com >> To remove yourself from the list visit: >> http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com Mon Aug 14 08:18:01 2006 From: rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com (Robert Van Overmeiren) Date: Mon Aug 14 07:18:01 2006 Subject: unable to open display Message-ID: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FD2@mail.vcommerce.local> I'm able to open display. Now getting connection timed out (10060) when I go out my firewall to the gateways' external IP. I tried these additional chains in my iptables but no improvement. iptables -A FORWARD -s 0/0 -p tcp --dport 5900:5900 -j ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD -s 0/0 -p tcp --sport 5900:5900 -j ACCEPT iptables -I INPUT -m state --state NEW -p tcp --destination-port 5901 -j ACCEPT I think the gateway may be doing the blocking rather than MY firewall. So VNC Viewer works using the gateways internal IP, but not its external. They may have more strict rules for the external IP. What commands can I use to tshoot this? -----Original Message----- From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of William Hooper Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 7:08 PM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: unable to open display Robert Van Overmeiren wrote: [snip] > Since I can log into the gateway from a gnome client (Fedora), and > invoke a remote vncviewer successfully, but when I log into the gateway > from a cygwin client (XP) and invoke the remote vncviewer, I get 'unable > to open display', So it sounds like you problem is with cygwin, not VNC. Perhaps you will have better luck on a cygwin list? Have you started the cygwin X server? -- William Hooper _______________________________________________ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From alexp@broadcom.com Mon Aug 14 18:16:02 2006 From: alexp@broadcom.com (Alex Pelts) Date: Mon Aug 14 17:16:02 2006 Subject: Noobie question In-Reply-To: <44DFAA10.2050204@janimation.com> References: <44DFAA10.2050204@janimation.com> Message-ID: <44E0A175.6030005@broadcom.com> Jimmy, It would help a bit if you could describe your parents network configuration. Is there a router? What is the OS? Is it cable or dsl? A lot of times cable or dsl modems have routers and firewalls built-in. The other option is - your parents could invite you in - vnc server has "add new client" option. You configure your machine correctly and then they will initiate connection. If that works you can figure out the rest from there. Regards, Alex jimmy gass wrote: > My question is so general that I can't effectively search the archives. > I've read the "documentation", the "faqs" etc.. but can't manage to find > the answer. > > I'm trying to help the parents in another state by VNCing into their > machine. I've had them download the latest VNC server. I've downloaded > the latest VNC viewer. I've got their IP. Which is not through a router. > I've had them go to the test page, and I've got their IP, but it doesn't > connect to 5900. I've had them disable any anti virus software, they > don't have any firewalls. They have set a password for authentication. > But still I can not seem to connect to them. Do I need to look more into > port forwarding? > > In the viewer window, I've tried, IP:0, IP:IP:0, IP. I don't know if I'm > typing the path right. If it needs the password. > > I imagined that this should be a simple connect. I'm also sure that many > people have done this with success. I just need a little nudge in the > right direction. Any help is appreciated. > > Jimmy > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com Mon Aug 14 18:26:00 2006 From: rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com (Robert Van Overmeiren) Date: Mon Aug 14 17:26:00 2006 Subject: unable to open display Message-ID: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FD4@mail.vcommerce.local> Yes, I know with VNC Viewer you connect to the box and session running vncserver, and that you can put :1 or :5901. Today, VNCing from the terminal server, I'm getting 'A socket operation was attempted to an unreachable host (10065)'. I don't know if its because I'm inside the LAN, rather than connecting remotely, or the functionality is only available outside regular business hours. Either way, the preferred method is to go through the gateway directly rather than the terminal server, so I'd like to figure out how to unblock it. -----Original Message----- From: evets dranem [mailto:edranem@dranem.org] Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 8:51 AM To: Robert Van Overmeiren Subject: Re: unable to open display port 5901 ip:1 or ip ::5901 From Jimmy@janimation.com Mon Aug 14 18:33:01 2006 From: Jimmy@janimation.com (Jimmy) Date: Mon Aug 14 17:33:01 2006 Subject: Noobie question In-Reply-To: <44E0A175.6030005@broadcom.com> References: <44DFAA10.2050204@janimation.com> <44E0A175.6030005@broadcom.com> Message-ID: <44E0A575.6090800@janimation.com> Let's see. The parents are using XP home edition, connected straight into a comcast cable moden. Something like a motorola 5100. They aren't using a router. They aren't behind any firewalls that I am aware off. They might have a expired copy of norton, that I had them disable. So they only have one IP address to use. They have put a password in the authentication. and they are waiting for port 5900. I'm behind a linksys router, connected to a time warner (i guess my parents are time warner too, thanks to the buy out or merger or whatever) cable modem. Running XP pro. I was trying to figure out the "add client" option. But It sounds like it might be harder for my parents to connect to my machine being behind the router. The only thing that I can think is the issue, is some of the ad blocking software, or anti virus shit, is not letting me in. Thanks again for the help. I use VNC at work (set up by IT of course, so I just point and click), and it is perfect for getting on the render boxes, and tooling around. It's a great program, just trying to get it to work for my purposes. Thanks a lot. /*JIMMY GASS* *DESIGNER | COMPOSITOR*/ Alex Pelts wrote: > Jimmy, > It would help a bit if you could describe your parents network > configuration. > Is there a router? What is the OS? Is it cable or dsl? A lot of times > cable or dsl modems have routers and firewalls built-in. > > The other option is - your parents could invite you in - vnc server > has "add new client" option. You configure your machine correctly and > then they will initiate connection. If that works you can figure out > the rest from there. > > Regards, > Alex > > jimmy gass wrote: >> My question is so general that I can't effectively search the archives. >> I've read the "documentation", the "faqs" etc.. but can't manage to >> find the answer. >> >> I'm trying to help the parents in another state by VNCing into their >> machine. I've had them download the latest VNC server. I've >> downloaded the latest VNC viewer. I've got their IP. Which is not >> through a router. I've had them go to the test page, and I've got >> their IP, but it doesn't connect to 5900. I've had them disable any >> anti virus software, they don't have any firewalls. They have set a >> password for authentication. But still I can not seem to connect to >> them. Do I need to look more into port forwarding? >> >> In the viewer window, I've tried, IP:0, IP:IP:0, IP. I don't know if >> I'm typing the path right. If it needs the password. >> >> I imagined that this should be a simple connect. I'm also sure that >> many people have done this with success. I just need a little nudge >> in the right direction. Any help is appreciated. >> >> Jimmy >> _______________________________________________ >> VNC-List mailing list >> VNC-List@realvnc.com >> To remove yourself from the list visit: >> http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From alexp@broadcom.com Mon Aug 14 19:22:01 2006 From: alexp@broadcom.com (Alex Pelts) Date: Mon Aug 14 18:22:01 2006 Subject: Noobie question In-Reply-To: <44E0A575.6090800@janimation.com> References: <44DFAA10.2050204@janimation.com> <44E0A175.6030005@broadcom.com> <44E0A575.6090800@janimation.com> Message-ID: <44E0B107.4070809@broadcom.com> Jimmy, I only proposed them connecting to you so you can setup your machine and make sure that it is working. On their side you can not be sure of anything. For instance if your parents have XP and sp2 they will have a firewall blocking connection automatically. Your router can easily be configured to forward tcp port 5900 which is a vnc port. You can then verify that someone can connect with one of your friends. At least most of the things will be verified. With your parents it is all black box at the moment. Regards, Alex Jimmy wrote: > Let's see. > The parents are using XP home edition, connected straight into a comcast > cable moden. Something like a motorola 5100. They aren't using a router. > They aren't behind any firewalls that I am aware off. They might have a > expired copy of norton, that I had them disable. So they only have one > IP address to use. They have put a password in the authentication. and > they are waiting for port 5900. > I'm behind a linksys router, connected to a time warner (i guess my > parents are time warner too, thanks to the buy out or merger or > whatever) cable modem. Running XP pro. > > I was trying to figure out the "add client" option. But It sounds like > it might be harder for my parents to connect to my machine being behind > the router. > > The only thing that I can think is the issue, is some of the ad blocking > software, or anti virus shit, is not letting me in. > > Thanks again for the help. I use VNC at work (set up by IT of course, so > I just point and click), and it is perfect for getting on the render > boxes, and tooling around. It's a great program, just trying to get it > to work for my purposes. Thanks a lot. > > > /*JIMMY GASS* > *DESIGNER | COMPOSITOR*/ > > > > > > > > Alex Pelts wrote: >> Jimmy, >> It would help a bit if you could describe your parents network >> configuration. >> Is there a router? What is the OS? Is it cable or dsl? A lot of times >> cable or dsl modems have routers and firewalls built-in. >> >> The other option is - your parents could invite you in - vnc server >> has "add new client" option. You configure your machine correctly and >> then they will initiate connection. If that works you can figure out >> the rest from there. >> >> Regards, >> Alex >> >> jimmy gass wrote: >>> My question is so general that I can't effectively search the archives. >>> I've read the "documentation", the "faqs" etc.. but can't manage to >>> find the answer. >>> >>> I'm trying to help the parents in another state by VNCing into their >>> machine. I've had them download the latest VNC server. I've >>> downloaded the latest VNC viewer. I've got their IP. Which is not >>> through a router. I've had them go to the test page, and I've got >>> their IP, but it doesn't connect to 5900. I've had them disable any >>> anti virus software, they don't have any firewalls. They have set a >>> password for authentication. But still I can not seem to connect to >>> them. Do I need to look more into port forwarding? >>> >>> In the viewer window, I've tried, IP:0, IP:IP:0, IP. I don't know if >>> I'm typing the path right. If it needs the password. >>> >>> I imagined that this should be a simple connect. I'm also sure that >>> many people have done this with success. I just need a little nudge >>> in the right direction. Any help is appreciated. >>> >>> Jimmy >>> _______________________________________________ >>> VNC-List mailing list >>> VNC-List@realvnc.com >>> To remove yourself from the list visit: >>> http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From jerry@westrick.com Mon Aug 14 19:51:01 2006 From: jerry@westrick.com (Jerry Westrick) Date: Mon Aug 14 18:51:01 2006 Subject: Noobie question In-Reply-To: <44E0A575.6090800@janimation.com> References: <44DFAA10.2050204@janimation.com> <44E0A175.6030005@broadcom.com> <44E0A575.6090800@janimation.com> Message-ID: <200608141850.23133.jerry@westrick.com> On Monday 14 August 2006 18:31, Jimmy wrote: > Let's see. > The parents are using XP home edition, connected straight into a comcast > cable moden. Something like a motorola 5100. They aren't using a router. > They aren't behind any firewalls that I am aware off. They might have a > expired copy of norton, that I had them disable. So they only have one > IP address to use. They have put a password in the authentication. and > they are waiting for port 5900. > I'm behind a linksys router, connected to a time warner (i guess my > parents are time warner too, thanks to the buy out or merger or > whatever) cable modem. Running XP pro. > > I was trying to figure out the "add client" option. But It sounds like > it might be harder for my parents to connect to my machine being behind > the router. > > The only thing that I can think is the issue, is some of the ad blocking > software, or anti virus shit, is not letting me in. > > Thanks again for the help. I use VNC at work (set up by IT of course, so > I just point and click), and it is perfect for getting on the render > boxes, and tooling around. It's a great program, just trying to get it > to work for my purposes. Thanks a lot. > > > /*JIMMY GASS* > *DESIGNER | COMPOSITOR*/ > > > Alex Pelts wrote: > > Jimmy, > > It would help a bit if you could describe your parents network > > configuration. > > Is there a router? What is the OS? Is it cable or dsl? A lot of times > > cable or dsl modems have routers and firewalls built-in. > > > > The other option is - your parents could invite you in - vnc server > > has "add new client" option. You configure your machine correctly and > > then they will initiate connection. If that works you can figure out > > the rest from there. > > > > Regards, > > Alex > > > > jimmy gass wrote: > >> My question is so general that I can't effectively search the archives. > >> I've read the "documentation", the "faqs" etc.. but can't manage to > >> find the answer. > >> > >> I'm trying to help the parents in another state by VNCing into their > >> machine. I've had them download the latest VNC server. I've > >> downloaded the latest VNC viewer. I've got their IP. Which is not > >> through a router. I've had them go to the test page, and I've got > >> their IP, but it doesn't connect to 5900. I've had them disable any > >> anti virus software, they don't have any firewalls. They have set a > >> password for authentication. But still I can not seem to connect to > >> them. Do I need to look more into port forwarding? > >> > >> In the viewer window, I've tried, IP:0, IP:IP:0, IP. I don't know if > >> I'm typing the path right. If it needs the password. > >> > >> I imagined that this should be a simple connect. I'm also sure that > >> many people have done this with success. I just need a little nudge > >> in the right direction. Any help is appreciated. > >> > >> Jimmy Okay Jimmy this is the way I go about it.... 1- I configure my system router network to allow 5800/tcp in. 2- (I'm behind a NAT router) I redirect the port 5800/tcp to my workstation. 3- I install all of vnc onto my workstation. (Don't really think it's required but never done it any other way either!) 4- I install vnc on my relatives machine. 5- I create an ICON on my relatives desktop named "Screen to Jerry", Umm maybe you name yours to Jimmy ;-). The icon starts the vncserver with following options: winvnc -connect myIpAddress (Please check manual for exact syntax since I'm quoting this of the top of my head, and as most people know, I've lost my head many years ago!) And that was the entire Setup.... How to use: When my relatives call on the phone, crying "I can't get my email" I start a vncviewer in listen mode, and then tell them to "Send screen to Me"... They usually can figure out what to do there, although sometimes I have to give additional info like "Double Click the white picture on your desktop with 'Screen to Jerry' written underneither it...." Jerry From charlesl@neilsquire.ca Mon Aug 14 20:31:03 2006 From: charlesl@neilsquire.ca (Charles Levasseur) Date: Mon Aug 14 19:31:03 2006 Subject: Java Viewer Applet Message-ID: Hello I want to create my own HTML file that would include the Java Viewer Applet for connecting to a specific Real VNC server (4.1.1). Where can I download the Java viewer applet from and what parameters can be controlled? Thanks -- NEIL SQUIRE SOCIETY - http://www.neilsquire.ca We use technology, knowledge and passion to empower Canadians with physical disabilities. 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From john@chattanooga.net Mon Aug 14 21:47:00 2006 From: john@chattanooga.net (John Aldrich) Date: Mon Aug 14 20:47:00 2006 Subject: Noobie question In-Reply-To: <44E00585.9070802@janimation.com> References: <44DFAA10.2050204@janimation.com> <44DFB978.8050903@verizon.net> <44E00585.9070802@janimation.com> Message-ID: <200608141545.54744.john@chattanooga.net> On Monday 14 August 2006 01:09 am, jimmy gass wrote: > Thanks for the reply. > > I must be dealing with a more advanced problem. I'm not able to connect. > Is there something that I am not considering here? I'm using XP pro, the > other machine is XP home. I'm connecting through a router through a > cable modem. The machine on the other end is through a cable modem. > Simply typing IP:5900 or IP:0 times out. I've tried connecting to the > machine through putty, with my limited knowledge of that. Can't do that > either. Do I need to somehow force that port to be open, or should VNC > just see my connection coming in? > > Thanks for any help on this. > Jimmy: If these are both XP Service Pack 2, the problem is likely 2-fold: 1) If your folks have a router at home, you need to open the ports in the router. 2) You will need to open port 5900 on the Windows Firewall on your folks' computer and I recommend putting the VNC Server executable in the firewall as an allowed application. You *may* need to add the VNC Client executable on your PC's firewall as well. As of XP Service Pack 2, the firewall defaults to "on" instead of "off." This makes it much more difficult for "noobies" to use VNC, but not impossible. From jimmy@janimation.com Tue Aug 15 03:09:01 2006 From: jimmy@janimation.com (jimmy gass) Date: Tue Aug 15 02:09:01 2006 Subject: Noobie question Message-ID: <44E11E73.8050206@janimation.com> Thanks for the replies. It sounds as if the problem is solvable. I'll look into your suggested solutions. Jimmy From jerry@westrick.com Tue Aug 15 09:35:01 2006 From: jerry@westrick.com (Jerry Westrick) Date: Tue Aug 15 08:35:01 2006 Subject: Noobie question In-Reply-To: <200608141850.23133.jerry@westrick.com> References: <44DFAA10.2050204@janimation.com> <44E0A575.6090800@janimation.com> <200608141850.23133.jerry@westrick.com> Message-ID: <200608150832.49500.jerry@westrick.com> On Monday 14 August 2006 18:50, Jerry Westrick wrote: > 5800 s/5800/5500/ Sorry... My bad.... 5500 is the port used by listening vncviewer... Jerry From prother@yoinked.com Tue Aug 15 12:49:00 2006 From: prother@yoinked.com (Paul Rother) Date: Tue Aug 15 11:49:00 2006 Subject: Install license key in unattended setup References: Message-ID: I've created an unattended install that does everything other than setting the license key. I've tried setting the license key on a machine and then importing the VNC registry keys to the box that is getting the package. However, it seems the registry key generated is unique in every install. Is there a way to script installing a valid license key?' From jnw@realvnc.com Tue Aug 15 14:06:01 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Tue Aug 15 13:06:01 2006 Subject: Install license key in unattended setup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <005501c6c063$07aa3b90$06000100@sturton.local> Hi Paul, Please submit support requests via: http://www.realvnc.com/support.html Cheers, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Paul Rother > Sent: 15 August 2006 11:53 > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Install license key in unattended setup > > I've created an unattended install that does everything other > than setting the license key. I've tried setting the license > key on a machine and then importing the VNC registry keys to > the box that is getting the package. However, it seems the > registry key generated is unique in every install. Is there > a way to script installing a valid license key?' > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From john@chattanooga.net Tue Aug 15 16:59:00 2006 From: john@chattanooga.net (John Aldrich) Date: Tue Aug 15 15:59:00 2006 Subject: VNC and Terminal Services! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200608151057.59079.john@chattanooga.net> On Tuesday 15 August 2006 08:02 am, you wrote: > John - Good morning. My name is Nestor A. Angel and I have a question > about VNC. Unfortunately I have tried to sent my question to the > VNC-list but I have a problem and it e-mail always get back to me with > errors. I know you are an expert on the VNC utility and this is the > reason I would like to ask you about my issue. > > The following describes the my issue. > > I am using VNC Server for Win32 4.0 in our Windows environment. I am > testing a new full automatic line in which we will be using five WYSE > (model WT1125SE) terminal services units. My goal is to provide remote > assistance to the users using these terminal workstation. The WYSE > terminals are setup with its own IP address and they are connected to > our Terminal Services Server. > > How can I connect to the WYSE terminal interface? Also how can I > connect to an specific session in the Terminal Services Server? > > Any Assistance with this matter would be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you in advance for your assistance! > Hmm... I'm not sure. I'll forward this to the list for you... I'm not sure I consider myself an "expert" but I will admit to being experienced with VNC. :-) My *gut feeling* is that it's not going to work, unless you get the "enterprise" version, because VNC Free version is incompatible with Remote Desktop, which is basically another "flavor" of TS. Anyway, I'm CC-ing this to the list so that, hopefully, it'll get an answer. If I'm wrong about TS and VNC, I'll gladly sit corrected. I can only go by what's been posted on the list before, as I have no experience with TS and VNC. From jbeauford@EightInOnePet.com Tue Aug 15 17:24:03 2006 From: jbeauford@EightInOnePet.com (Beauford, Jason) Date: Tue Aug 15 16:24:03 2006 Subject: VNC and Terminal Services! Message-ID: <8AAB5E48C043704B8F1B835DD8F0A44602A81567@ROBIN.eightinonepet.com> John Aldrich wrote: > On Tuesday 15 August 2006 08:02 am, you wrote: >> John - Good morning. My name is Nestor A. Angel and I have a >> question about VNC. Unfortunately I have tried to sent my question >> to the VNC-list but I have a problem and it e-mail always get back >> to me with errors. I know you are an expert on the VNC utility and >> this is the reason I would like to ask you about my issue. >> >> The following describes the my issue. >> >> I am using VNC Server for Win32 4.0 in our Windows environment. I am >> testing a new full automatic line in which we will be using five WYSE >> (model WT1125SE) terminal services units. My goal is to provide >> remote assistance to the users using these terminal workstation. The >> WYSE terminals are setup with its own IP address and they are >> connected to our Terminal Services Server. >> >> How can I connect to the WYSE terminal interface? Also how can I >> connect to an specific session in the Terminal Services Server? >> >> Any Assistance with this matter would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Thank you in advance for your assistance! >> > Hmm... I'm not sure. I'll forward this to the list for you... I'm not > sure I consider myself an "expert" but I will admit to being > experienced with VNC. :-) > > My *gut feeling* is that it's not going to work, unless you get the > "enterprise" version, because VNC Free version is incompatible with > Remote Desktop, which is basically another "flavor" of TS. > > Anyway, I'm CC-ing this to the list so that, hopefully, it'll get an > answer. > If I'm wrong about TS and VNC, I'll gladly sit corrected. I can only > go by what's been posted on the list before, as I have no experience > with TS and VNC. _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list The best way to connect to the WYSE Terminals is to leverage Terminal Services Administrator (tsadmin) from the Terminal Server. You can manage any remote session connected to the TS, provided everything is configured properly. As for connecting to the Wyse Terminal interfaces...I don't believe you'll be able to easily install a VNC client on the unit. Maybe check out the WYSE forum for more info on installing local software onto the embedded client. Regards, JMB From rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com Tue Aug 15 19:51:01 2006 From: rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com (Robert Van Overmeiren) Date: Tue Aug 15 18:51:01 2006 Subject: Does tcp 0 0 *:5901 *:* LIST mean 5901 is wide open? Message-ID: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FE6@mail.vcommerce.local> I can VNC to my workstation from hosts on our LAN, but when I tunnel through the SSH gateway from outside, my vnc viewer connection times out. I can't get a telnet response from the vncserver either. I bypassed my home firewall, connecting XP directly into the cable modem, made my SSH connection, and VNC Viewer still times out. Windoz Firewall and fast client switching is turned off. I instantiate an SSH port forwarded connection, through the gateway, from localhost 5905 (Windoz XP) to the vncserver (Fedora 5). When I execute 'netstat -a' on XP, I can see the open port (RFVO2:5905) listening but can't connect to it. I tried (vncviewer): Localhost:5 Localhost:5905 10.3.1.194:1 (workstation session) RFVO2:5 RFVO2:5905 Localhost:0 gives me infinite recursion desktops, even though vncserver isn't running locally. netstat -a | grep 5901 on the gateway returns tcp 0 0 *:5901 *:* LIST ...as well as info on another host obviously running VNC. Does this mean the gateway is not blocking the port? How can I tell for sure? Does the ISP, like cox.net, sometimes block the use of VNC? Best regards, Robert Van Overmeiren Software Engineer From Michelle@ohanaadvisors.com Tue Aug 15 20:22:00 2006 From: Michelle@ohanaadvisors.com (Michelle Young) Date: Tue Aug 15 19:22:00 2006 Subject: security Message-ID: what product do you have that will provide our company with a secure vpn connection over the internet? we are using realvnc and winvnc free editions currently and our computers were accessed. so now we've closed access on all the computers. but we still need a way to work from outside our network. your thoughts? From cheshireccat@gmail.com Tue Aug 15 20:41:02 2006 From: cheshireccat@gmail.com (Cheshire Cat) Date: Tue Aug 15 19:41:02 2006 Subject: File Transfer question #4857364 Message-ID: <724bdbcb0608151140v192af5aej3d8f52cd0fc8b196@mail.gmail.com> Time for the File Transfer Question. Seems like there are hundreds of these in the archives and I'm unable to sort by age of file, so all I get is file transfer questions from 3 years ago. Now I have Enterprise edition 4.1.3 and I have tried File Transfer. I have file transfer enabled in the settings fro the VNC server service. I have forwarded ports 5500, 5800 and 5900 to this PC through my router and it still does not seem to work for me, I should also note that I use the VNC client (newest version) to connect to the server. Anything I'm not thinking of? Any ideas on how to fix this? J.D. From Jim.Piekal@alltel.com Tue Aug 15 21:17:01 2006 From: Jim.Piekal@alltel.com (Jim.Piekal@alltel.com) Date: Tue Aug 15 20:17:01 2006 Subject: VNC 4.1.2 features Message-ID: Is there a way to gray out (disable) the following two items from the system tray icon when you right click: add new client disconnect clients I found the registry entry for disabling "Options". thanks Jim ****************************************************************************************** The information contained in this message, including attachments, may contain privileged or confidential information that is intended to be delivered only to the person identified above. If you are not the intended recipient, or the person responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, ALLTEL requests that you immediately notify the sender and asks that you do not read the message or its attachments, and that you delete them without copying or sending them to anyone else. From jerry@westrick.com Tue Aug 15 21:25:00 2006 From: jerry@westrick.com (Jerry Westrick) Date: Tue Aug 15 20:25:00 2006 Subject: Does tcp 0 0 *:5901 *:* LIST mean 5901 is wide open? In-Reply-To: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FE6@mail.vcommerce.local> References: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FE6@mail.vcommerce.local> Message-ID: <200608152024.35948.jerry@westrick.com> On Tuesday 15 August 2006 19:49, Robert Van Overmeiren wrote: > I can VNC to my workstation from hosts on our LAN, but when I tunnel > through the SSH gateway from outside, my vnc viewer connection times > out. I can't get a telnet response from the vncserver either. I bypassed > my home firewall, connecting XP directly into the cable modem, made my > SSH connection, and VNC Viewer still times out. Windoz Firewall and fast > client switching is turned off. > > > > I instantiate an SSH port forwarded connection, through the gateway, > from localhost 5905 (Windoz XP) to the vncserver (Fedora 5). When I > execute 'netstat -a' on XP, I can see the open port (RFVO2:5905) > listening but can't connect to it. > > > > I tried (vncviewer): > > Localhost:5 > > Localhost:5905 > > 10.3.1.194:1 (workstation session) > > RFVO2:5 > > RFVO2:5905 > > > > Localhost:0 gives me infinite recursion desktops, even though vncserver > isn't running locally. > > > > > > netstat -a | grep 5901 on the gateway returns > > > > tcp 0 0 *:5901 *:* LIST > > > > ...as well as info on another host obviously running VNC. > > > > Does this mean the gateway is not blocking the port? > > > > How can I tell for sure? > > > > Does the ISP, like cox.net, sometimes block the use of VNC? > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Robert Van Overmeiren > best guess > Software Engineer > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list Best guess is ssh tunnel nost setup right... wanna give us your -L parameter? Jerry From john@chattanooga.net Tue Aug 15 21:52:00 2006 From: john@chattanooga.net (John Aldrich) Date: Tue Aug 15 20:52:00 2006 Subject: security In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200608151551.19752.john@chattanooga.net> On Tuesday 15 August 2006 02:24 pm, Michelle Young wrote: > what product do you have that will provide our company with a secure vpn > connection over the internet? we are using realvnc and winvnc free > editions currently and our computers were accessed. so now we've closed > access on all the computers. but we still need a way to work from > outside our network. your thoughts? > You have two options: 1) Purchase the enterprise version of VNC which has encryption built-in or 2) Come up with some other sort of VPN and then "tunnel" VNC over the VPN solution. Free VNC has the "security risk" that anyone can access it if they know the name/ip address of the server and know/can guess the password. What you really need, as I said previously, is either *pay* for the commercial VNC or use some other sort of VPN app to create an encrypted tunnel. Personally, I use SSH to create an encrypted tunnel and then run VNC over/through the SSH tunnel. Solves the problem for me. However, there are other solutions, such as Hamachi (Windows/Linux), Microsoft VPN apps (Mostly Windows) or 3rd-party VPN apps, such as Cisco, etc. From scott@smithdomain.com Tue Aug 15 22:32:02 2006 From: scott@smithdomain.com (B. Scott Smith) Date: Tue Aug 15 21:32:02 2006 Subject: security In-Reply-To: <200608151551.19752.john@chattanooga.net> References: <200608151551.19752.john@chattanooga.net> Message-ID: <44E22F2B.2040802@smithdomain.com> John Aldrich wrote: > On Tuesday 15 August 2006 02:24 pm, Michelle Young wrote: > >> what product do you have that will provide our company with a secure vpn >> connection over the internet? we are using realvnc and winvnc free >> editions currently and our computers were accessed. so now we've closed >> access on all the computers. but we still need a way to work from >> outside our network. your thoughts? >> > You have two options: > 1) Purchase the enterprise version of VNC which has encryption built-in or > 2) Come up with some other sort of VPN and then "tunnel" VNC over the VPN > solution. > > Free VNC has the "security risk" that anyone can access it if they know the > name/ip address of the server and know/can guess the password. What you > really need, as I said previously, is either *pay* for the commercial VNC or > use some other sort of VPN app to create an encrypted tunnel. > > Personally, I use SSH to create an encrypted tunnel and then run VNC > over/through the SSH tunnel. Solves the problem for me. However, there are > other solutions, such as Hamachi (Windows/Linux), Microsoft VPN apps (Mostly > Windows) or 3rd-party VPN apps, such as Cisco, etc. > > If you are looking for a free, full-flavored VPN solution, try OpenVPN (http://openvpn.net). It is very secure, and works great! It's what we use to VNC back into the office. From rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com Tue Aug 15 22:51:01 2006 From: rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com (Robert Van Overmeiren) Date: Tue Aug 15 21:51:01 2006 Subject: Does tcp 0 0 *:5901 *:* LIST mean 5901 is wide open? Message-ID: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FE8@mail.vcommerce.local> I RDC to an NT Terminal Server on the same LAN as the gateway and workstation/vncserver, and setup the SSH tunnel with putty by specifying 4 things. Gateway IP, Compression, source port (5905), and destination IP:port (10.3.1.194:5900). I minimize the connection, then connect to 10.3.1.194:1 using Windoz VNC Viewer which works fine. Viewer won't connect without this SSH connection, but the forwarded port will persist a long time after exiting the connection, so I can still VNC. When I configure and connect my home XP box the same way with putty, but to the gateway's external IP, I get an open localhost port but no connection to forwarded port. I've tried this from the command line with Cygwin/OpenSSH like this: ssh -f -N -C -T -l username -L 5905:10.3.1.194:5900 gateway.corp.com >From your response I assume that the netstat output confirms that the port is not blocked, and also that cox.net is probably not blocking it. What's wrong with the tunnel config, it works when the hosts are on the same subnet, but not when I come from outside? -----Original Message----- From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Westrick Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 11:25 AM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: Does tcp 0 0 *:5901 *:* LIST mean 5901 is wide open? On Tuesday 15 August 2006 19:49, Robert Van Overmeiren wrote: > I can VNC to my workstation from hosts on our LAN, but when I tunnel > through the SSH gateway from outside, my vnc viewer connection times > out. I can't get a telnet response from the vncserver either. I bypassed > my home firewall, connecting XP directly into the cable modem, made my > SSH connection, and VNC Viewer still times out. Windoz Firewall and fast > client switching is turned off. > > > > I instantiate an SSH port forwarded connection, through the gateway, > from localhost 5905 (Windoz XP) to the vncserver (Fedora 5). When I > execute 'netstat -a' on XP, I can see the open port (RFVO2:5905) > listening but can't connect to it. > > > > I tried (vncviewer): > > Localhost:5 > > Localhost:5905 > > 10.3.1.194:1 (workstation session) > > RFVO2:5 > > RFVO2:5905 > > > > Localhost:0 gives me infinite recursion desktops, even though vncserver > isn't running locally. > > > > > > netstat -a | grep 5901 on the gateway returns > > > > tcp 0 0 *:5901 *:* LIST > > > > ...as well as info on another host obviously running VNC. > > > > Does this mean the gateway is not blocking the port? > > > > How can I tell for sure? > > > > Does the ISP, like cox.net, sometimes block the use of VNC? > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Robert Van Overmeiren > best guess > Software Engineer > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list Best guess is ssh tunnel nost setup right... wanna give us your -L parameter? Jerry _______________________________________________ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From Brian.Auld@lefthandnetworks.com Wed Aug 16 02:41:00 2006 From: Brian.Auld@lefthandnetworks.com (Brian Auld) Date: Wed Aug 16 01:41:00 2006 Subject: keystroke spewage Message-ID: <44E94AC31873BC43A74D040A9C1135224A7924@SOLVISTA.corp.lefthandnetworks.com> I am new to using VNC and am having a frustrating problem with keystroke spewage. While connected to my remote app, I'll type a keystroke and it will ultimately be echoed to my application multiple times. My setup is as follows: Environment ----------- Client: VNC4.1.2 on winxp sp2 Network: Internet - VPN client (cisco 4.0.5) Server: Fedora 3 running vnc server provided with distro (vnc-server-4.0-8). Remote app: emacs (emacs-21.3-17). This is what I always use, but I've also seen spewage in xterms etc... I googled for 'keystroke repeated vnc' etc... and various permutations and combinations of similar english text and did not find anything useful. Any history on this or solution would be appreciated. VNC aside, I've used the same setup to run other apps via vpn and have not seen this problem. If keystrokes are sent 1 character at a time over the network, it almost seems like the vnc client app is resending the packet for a given keystroke because it perceives the prior packet (keystroke) to have been dropped ... when in fact they all arrive and barf all over my screen. This problem is intermittent, so network latency could very well be a large contributing factor. Regards, Brian Auld From alexp@broadcom.com Wed Aug 16 03:12:00 2006 From: alexp@broadcom.com (Alex Pelts) Date: Wed Aug 16 02:12:00 2006 Subject: keystroke spewage In-Reply-To: <44E94AC31873BC43A74D040A9C1135224A7924@SOLVISTA.corp.lefthandnetworks.com> References: <44E94AC31873BC43A74D040A9C1135224A7924@SOLVISTA.corp.lefthandnetworks.com> Message-ID: <44E270B5.7020008@broadcom.com> Brian, It would be interesting to try if you can connect from inside of the network using the same client. This will eliminate possible vpn problems. This is the problem I have never heard of. Also is it possible to use X server to connect to that RH box? U can use free x server of the Internet. Maybe your keymap is misconfigured somehow? Alex Brian Auld wrote: > I am new to using VNC and am having a frustrating problem with keystroke > spewage. While connected to my remote app, I'll type a keystroke and it > will ultimately be echoed to my application multiple times. My setup is > as follows: > > Environment > ----------- > Client: VNC4.1.2 on winxp sp2 > Network: Internet - VPN client (cisco 4.0.5) > Server: Fedora 3 running vnc server provided with distro > (vnc-server-4.0-8). > Remote app: emacs (emacs-21.3-17). This is what I always use, but I've > also seen spewage in xterms etc... > > I googled for 'keystroke repeated vnc' etc... and various permutations > and combinations of similar english text and did not find anything > useful. > > Any history on this or solution would be appreciated. > > VNC aside, I've used the same setup to run other apps via vpn and have > not seen this problem. If keystrokes are sent 1 character at a time > over the network, it almost seems like the vnc client app is resending > the packet for a given keystroke because it perceives the prior packet > (keystroke) to have been dropped ... when in fact they all arrive and > barf all over my screen. This problem is intermittent, so network > latency could very well be a large contributing factor. > > Regards, > Brian Auld > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From gvaeth@yahoo.com Wed Aug 16 06:27:00 2006 From: gvaeth@yahoo.com (Greg Vaeth) Date: Wed Aug 16 05:27:00 2006 Subject: how to confirm 4.1.2 fixed security flaw? Message-ID: <20060816042614.47874.qmail@web51610.mail.yahoo.com> I guess I was the last to learn of the hole (today). Thought my kids were pulling my leg then they told me about the computer being "taken over". Found lots of intrusions in my event log (Windows XP Pro). After installing 4.1.2, I found some new entries marked "Requested security type not available". Can someone confirm that this is an exploit-modified client whose connection attempt was rejected? i.e. this demonstrates the fix in 4.1.2? Regards, Greg --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1"/min. From jnw@realvnc.com Wed Aug 16 12:10:00 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Wed Aug 16 11:10:00 2006 Subject: security In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00a401c6c11c$1a211aa0$06000100@sturton.local> Michelle, You may wish to consider VNC Enterprise Edition (http://www.realvnc.com/products/enterprise), which provides full session encryption, tamper-proofing and native user authentication. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Michelle Young > Sent: 15 August 2006 19:24 > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: security > > what product do you have that will provide our company with a > secure vpn > connection over the internet? we are using realvnc and winvnc free > editions currently and our computers were accessed. so now > we've closed > access on all the computers. but we still need a way to work from > outside our network. your thoughts? > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From jnw@realvnc.com Wed Aug 16 12:23:01 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Wed Aug 16 11:23:01 2006 Subject: keystroke spewage In-Reply-To: <44E94AC31873BC43A74D040A9C1135224A7924@SOLVISTA.corp.lefthandnetworks.com> Message-ID: <00a501c6c11c$5f962bc0$06000100@sturton.local> Brian, It sounds like your VNC X desktop has keyboard repeat enabled - you should disable this in order to avoid "spewage". Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Brian Auld > Sent: 16 August 2006 01:41 > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: keystroke spewage > > I am new to using VNC and am having a frustrating problem > with keystroke > spewage. While connected to my remote app, I'll type a > keystroke and it > will ultimately be echoed to my application multiple times. > My setup is > as follows: > > Environment > ----------- > Client: VNC4.1.2 on winxp sp2 > Network: Internet - VPN client (cisco 4.0.5) > Server: Fedora 3 running vnc server provided with distro > (vnc-server-4.0-8). > Remote app: emacs (emacs-21.3-17). This is what I always > use, but I've > also seen spewage in xterms etc... > > I googled for 'keystroke repeated vnc' etc... and various permutations > and combinations of similar english text and did not find anything > useful. > > Any history on this or solution would be appreciated. > > VNC aside, I've used the same setup to run other apps via vpn and have > not seen this problem. If keystrokes are sent 1 character at a time > over the network, it almost seems like the vnc client app is resending > the packet for a given keystroke because it perceives the prior packet > (keystroke) to have been dropped ... when in fact they all arrive and > barf all over my screen. This problem is intermittent, so network > latency could very well be a large contributing factor. > > Regards, > Brian Auld > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From jnw@realvnc.com Wed Aug 16 12:25:45 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Wed Aug 16 11:25:45 2006 Subject: File Transfer question #4857364 In-Reply-To: <724bdbcb0608151140v192af5aej3d8f52cd0fc8b196@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00a701c6c11d$20a0f6b0$06000100@sturton.local> Hi J.D, File transfer was introduced in VNC Enterprise Edition 4.2, so it sounds like you're running either a 4.2.x release, or something else entirely! Please submit support requests via http://www.realvnc.com/support.html Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Cheshire Cat > Sent: 15 August 2006 19:41 > To: VNC-List@realvnc.com > Subject: File Transfer question #4857364 > > Time for the File Transfer Question. Seems like there are > hundreds of these > in the archives and I'm unable to sort by age of file, so all > I get is file > transfer questions from 3 years ago. Now I have Enterprise > edition 4.1.3 and > I have tried File Transfer. I have file transfer enabled in > the settings fro > the VNC server service. I have forwarded ports 5500, 5800 and > 5900 to this > PC through my router and it still does not seem to work for > me, I should > also note that I use the VNC client (newest version) to connect to the > server. Anything I'm not thinking of? Any ideas on how to fix this? > J.D. > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From jnw@realvnc.com Wed Aug 16 12:28:22 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Wed Aug 16 11:28:22 2006 Subject: how to confirm 4.1.2 fixed security flaw? In-Reply-To: <20060816042614.47874.qmail@web51610.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00a601c6c11c$9449fe00$06000100@sturton.local> > I guess I was the last to learn of the hole (today). Thought > my kids were pulling my leg then they told me about the > computer being "taken over". Found lots of intrusions in my > event log (Windows XP Pro). After installing 4.1.2, I found > some new entries marked "Requested security type not > available". Can someone confirm that this is an > exploit-modified client whose connection attempt was > rejected? i.e. this demonstrates the fix in 4.1.2? Yes, "Requested security type not available" indicates that someone tried to connect using the flaw in versions 4.1 & 4.1.1, but was instead rejected. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. From whooper@freeshell.org Wed Aug 16 14:27:00 2006 From: whooper@freeshell.org (William Hooper) Date: Wed Aug 16 13:27:00 2006 Subject: Does tcp 0 0 *:5901 *:* LIST mean 5901 is wide open? In-Reply-To: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FE8@mail.vcommerce.local> References: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FE8@mail.vcommerce.local> Message-ID: <2933.70.61.179.202.1155731183.squirrel@whooper.org> Robert Van Overmeiren wrote: > I RDC to an NT Terminal Server on the same LAN as the gateway and > workstation/vncserver, and setup the SSH tunnel with putty by specifying 4 > things. Gateway IP, Compression, source port (5905), and destination > IP:port (10.3.1.194:5900). > > > I minimize the connection, then connect to 10.3.1.194:1 using Windoz VNC > Viewer which works fine. If you aren't using localhost:5 in the VNC viewer, you aren't using the SSH tunnel. -- William Hooper From evdo.hsdpa@gmail.com Wed Aug 16 15:40:01 2006 From: evdo.hsdpa@gmail.com (Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor) Date: Wed Aug 16 14:40:01 2006 Subject: how to confirm 4.1.2 fixed security flaw? In-Reply-To: <00a601c6c11c$9449fe00$06000100@sturton.local> References: <20060816042614.47874.qmail@web51610.mail.yahoo.com> <00a601c6c11c$9449fe00$06000100@sturton.local> Message-ID: <1ec620e90608160639r3747f08fv8a772e17738c56c3@mail.gmail.com> http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-computer-network-consultant.html has a list of some common holes... honestly... its kinda sad that people spend sooo much time ruining other people's days. -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisor http://wireless-internet-coverage.blogspot.com http://evdo-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 From Brian.Auld@lefthandnetworks.com Wed Aug 16 15:59:01 2006 From: Brian.Auld@lefthandnetworks.com (Brian Auld) Date: Wed Aug 16 14:59:01 2006 Subject: keystroke spewage Message-ID: <44E94AC31873BC43A74D040A9C1135224A792E@SOLVISTA.corp.lefthandnetworks.com> >From within the network, I don't appear to see the problem. Maybe I'm just lucky. Re: xserver etc... I have means to connect via other apps such as putty (which is not bad if you run emacs) and Xserve. However, I was really happy with VNC as my state is maintained on the remote server. If I'm doing something and my vpn session crashes, everything is still there when I reconnect. So, my preference is to use VNC - just hopefully without the "spewage". -----Original Message----- From: Alex Pelts [mailto:alexp@broadcom.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 7:11 PM To: Brian Auld Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: keystroke spewage Brian, It would be interesting to try if you can connect from inside of the network using the same client. This will eliminate possible vpn problems. This is the problem I have never heard of. Also is it possible to use X server to connect to that RH box? U can use free x server of the Internet. Maybe your keymap is misconfigured somehow? Alex Brian Auld wrote: > I am new to using VNC and am having a frustrating problem with > keystroke spewage. While connected to my remote app, I'll type a > keystroke and it will ultimately be echoed to my application multiple > times. My setup is as follows: > > Environment > ----------- > Client: VNC4.1.2 on winxp sp2 > Network: Internet - VPN client (cisco 4.0.5) > Server: Fedora 3 running vnc server provided with distro > (vnc-server-4.0-8). > Remote app: emacs (emacs-21.3-17). This is what I always use, but > I've also seen spewage in xterms etc... > > I googled for 'keystroke repeated vnc' etc... and various permutations > and combinations of similar english text and did not find anything > useful. > > Any history on this or solution would be appreciated. > > VNC aside, I've used the same setup to run other apps via vpn and have > not seen this problem. If keystrokes are sent 1 character at a time > over the network, it almost seems like the vnc client app is resending > the packet for a given keystroke because it perceives the prior packet > (keystroke) to have been dropped ... when in fact they all arrive and > barf all over my screen. This problem is intermittent, so network > latency could very well be a large contributing factor. > > Regards, > Brian Auld > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From Brian.Auld@lefthandnetworks.com Wed Aug 16 16:02:19 2006 From: Brian.Auld@lefthandnetworks.com (Brian Auld) Date: Wed Aug 16 15:02:19 2006 Subject: keystroke spewage Message-ID: <44E94AC31873BC43A74D040A9C1135224A792F@SOLVISTA.corp.lefthandnetworks.com> For clarification, when you say "VNC X desktop", are you referring to the VNC client or VNC server side? I did browse through my options on the VNC client side and do not recall seeing anything re: keyboard repeat. Thanks, Brian -----Original Message----- From: James Weatherall [mailto:jnw@realvnc.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 4:12 AM To: Brian Auld; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: keystroke spewage Brian, It sounds like your VNC X desktop has keyboard repeat enabled - you should disable this in order to avoid "spewage". Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Brian Auld > Sent: 16 August 2006 01:41 > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: keystroke spewage > > I am new to using VNC and am having a frustrating problem with > keystroke spewage. While connected to my remote app, I'll type a > keystroke and it will ultimately be echoed to my application multiple > times. > My setup is > as follows: > > Environment > ----------- > Client: VNC4.1.2 on winxp sp2 > Network: Internet - VPN client (cisco 4.0.5) > Server: Fedora 3 running vnc server provided with distro > (vnc-server-4.0-8). > Remote app: emacs (emacs-21.3-17). This is what I always use, but > I've also seen spewage in xterms etc... > > I googled for 'keystroke repeated vnc' etc... and various permutations > and combinations of similar english text and did not find anything > useful. > > Any history on this or solution would be appreciated. > > VNC aside, I've used the same setup to run other apps via vpn and have > not seen this problem. If keystrokes are sent 1 character at a time > over the network, it almost seems like the vnc client app is resending > the packet for a given keystroke because it perceives the prior packet > (keystroke) to have been dropped ... when in fact they all arrive and > barf all over my screen. This problem is intermittent, so network > latency could very well be a large contributing factor. > > Regards, > Brian Auld > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From jnw@realvnc.com Wed Aug 16 16:06:00 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Wed Aug 16 15:06:00 2006 Subject: how to confirm 4.1.2 fixed security flaw? In-Reply-To: <1ec620e90608160639r3747f08fv8a772e17738c56c3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00de01c6c13a$e9d03c40$06000100@sturton.local> That page doesn't appear to have any reference to VNC, does it? I like their spelling of "eavesdropping"... Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor > [mailto:evdo.hsdpa@gmail.com] > Sent: 16 August 2006 14:40 > To: James Weatherall > Cc: Greg Vaeth; vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Re: how to confirm 4.1.2 fixed security flaw? > > http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-computer-network-consultant.html > has a list of some common holes... honestly... its kinda sad that > people spend sooo much time ruining other people's days. > > > > -- > Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisor > http://wireless-internet-coverage.blogspot.com > http://evdo-coverage.com > 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 > Suite 203 > Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 > 206 984 0880 From curtcox@gmail.com Wed Aug 16 16:22:02 2006 From: curtcox@gmail.com (Curt Cox) Date: Wed Aug 16 15:22:02 2006 Subject: Is there a VNC speed matrix? Message-ID: Hi, I've been a light user of VNC for many years. I've noticed that there are many variables that determine the quality of user experience. The most obvious of these was how much faster *nix servers were than Windows. Recently, I discovered that Windows XP makes a more responsive VNC server than Windows 2000. Can anyone explain why this is? Nothing is CPU bound, so perhaps Windows XP has better hooks for the display or a better TCP/IP stack. Also, the Java client seems slower despite not being CPU bound. Does it support the same protocols? Thanks, Curt From curtcox@gmail.com Wed Aug 16 16:34:01 2006 From: curtcox@gmail.com (Curt Cox) Date: Wed Aug 16 15:34:01 2006 Subject: Unix version of Personal server Message-ID: Hi, Is this the right forum to discuss the upcoming Unix version of VNC personal server? When is the planned release date? What platforms will be supported? Where should customers submit feature requests? Thanks, Curt From Brian.Auld@lefthandnetworks.com Wed Aug 16 17:13:00 2006 From: Brian.Auld@lefthandnetworks.com (Brian Auld) Date: Wed Aug 16 16:13:00 2006 Subject: keystroke spewage Message-ID: <44E94AC31873BC43A74D040A9C1135224A793D@SOLVISTA.corp.lefthandnetworks.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Brian Auld > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 7:59 AM > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: RE: keystroke spewage > > For clarification, when you say "VNC X desktop", are you > referring to the VNC client or VNC server side? I did browse > through my options on the VNC client side and do not recall > seeing anything re: keyboard repeat. <--- some time after below ---> Ok, I disabled the "Key presses repeat when key is held down" button in the gnome->Preferences->Keyboard window. We'll see if this does the trick. I'm actually in the office today, so I'll have to wait until I'm remote to see if it works. <--- some time prior to above ---> This looks like it might be related. http://www.realvnc.com/products/enterprise/4.1/known-bugs.html Of course, the instructions don't apply to a gnome desktop, so now I have to figure out how to map the fix to a gnome desktop environment. > > Thanks, > Brian > > -----Original Message----- > From: James Weatherall [mailto:jnw@realvnc.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 4:12 AM > To: Brian Auld; vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: RE: keystroke spewage > > Brian, > > It sounds like your VNC X desktop has keyboard repeat enabled > - you should disable this in order to avoid "spewage". > > Regards, > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Brian Auld > > Sent: 16 August 2006 01:41 > > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > > Subject: keystroke spewage > > > > I am new to using VNC and am having a frustrating problem with > > keystroke spewage. While connected to my remote app, I'll type a > > keystroke and it will ultimately be echoed to my > application multiple > > times. > > My setup is > > as follows: > > > > Environment > > ----------- > > Client: VNC4.1.2 on winxp sp2 > > Network: Internet - VPN client (cisco 4.0.5) > > Server: Fedora 3 running vnc server provided with distro > > (vnc-server-4.0-8). > > Remote app: emacs (emacs-21.3-17). This is what I always use, but > > I've also seen spewage in xterms etc... > > > > I googled for 'keystroke repeated vnc' etc... and various > permutations > > > and combinations of similar english text and did not find anything > > useful. > > > > Any history on this or solution would be appreciated. > > > > VNC aside, I've used the same setup to run other apps via > vpn and have > > > not seen this problem. If keystrokes are sent 1 character > at a time > > over the network, it almost seems like the vnc client app > is resending > > > the packet for a given keystroke because it perceives the > prior packet > > (keystroke) to have been dropped ... when in fact they all > arrive and > > barf all over my screen. This problem is intermittent, so network > > latency could very well be a large contributing factor. > > > > Regards, > > Brian Auld > > _______________________________________________ > > VNC-List mailing list > > VNC-List@realvnc.com > > To remove yourself from the list visit: > > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com Wed Aug 16 17:34:01 2006 From: rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com (Robert Van Overmeiren) Date: Wed Aug 16 16:34:01 2006 Subject: Does tcp 0 0 *:5901 *:* LIST mean 5901 is wide open? Message-ID: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FE9@mail.vcommerce.local> OK, so I guess I am connecting directly from the terminal server to the workstation and the SSH connection to gateway isn't doing anything. I wondered why 'localhost:5' wasn't working like I read it should. I just get: "The connection was closed unexpectedly. Do you wish to reconnect?" What settings in putty will yield me a working tunnel? What does it look like from the command line? >From my remote location, with putty on XP, I checked options like 'Local ports accept connections from other hosts' and 'Remote ports do the same' and at one point my workstation IP:5901 showed up with netstat but the state was 'SNY_SENT' and I could not telnet or VNC. When I retried, I couldn't get it back. Setting Destination = Remote just open the port on the gateway. I tried enabling X forwarding too, but no improvement. Is there a particular archive or article that demonstrates how to setup the tunnel correctly? -----Original Message----- From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of William Hooper Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 5:26 AM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: Does tcp 0 0 *:5901 *:* LIST mean 5901 is wide open? Robert Van Overmeiren wrote: > I RDC to an NT Terminal Server on the same LAN as the gateway and > workstation/vncserver, and setup the SSH tunnel with putty by specifying 4 > things. Gateway IP, Compression, source port (5905), and destination > IP:port (10.3.1.194:5900). > > > I minimize the connection, then connect to 10.3.1.194:1 using Windoz VNC > Viewer which works fine. If you aren't using localhost:5 in the VNC viewer, you aren't using the SSH tunnel. -- William Hooper _______________________________________________ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From jnw@realvnc.com Wed Aug 16 17:49:01 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Wed Aug 16 16:49:01 2006 Subject: keystroke spewage In-Reply-To: <44E94AC31873BC43A74D040A9C1135224A792F@SOLVISTA.corp.lefthandnetworks.com> References: <44E94AC31873BC43A74D040A9C1135224A792F@SOLVISTA.corp.lefthandnetworks.com> Message-ID: <44E33E52.908@realvnc.com> Brian, The VNC X desktop is the X desktop that you are accessing via VNC. What you want is for the keyboard-repeat settings at the viewer computer to apply, rather than having the X server "fake" keyboard repeats, since the latter will lead to spurious repeats if a key-release event gets delayed for some reason. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. Brian Auld wrote: >For clarification, when you say "VNC X desktop", are you referring to >the VNC client or VNC server side? I did browse through my options on >the VNC client side and do not recall seeing anything re: keyboard >repeat. > >Thanks, >Brian > >-----Original Message----- >From: James Weatherall [mailto:jnw@realvnc.com] >Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 4:12 AM >To: Brian Auld; vnc-list@realvnc.com >Subject: RE: keystroke spewage > >Brian, > >It sounds like your VNC X desktop has keyboard repeat enabled - you >should disable this in order to avoid "spewage". > >Regards, > >Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com >>[mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Brian Auld >>Sent: 16 August 2006 01:41 >>To: vnc-list@realvnc.com >>Subject: keystroke spewage >> >>I am new to using VNC and am having a frustrating problem with >>keystroke spewage. While connected to my remote app, I'll type a >>keystroke and it will ultimately be echoed to my application multiple >>times. >>My setup is >>as follows: >> >>Environment >>----------- >>Client: VNC4.1.2 on winxp sp2 >>Network: Internet - VPN client (cisco 4.0.5) >>Server: Fedora 3 running vnc server provided with distro >>(vnc-server-4.0-8). >>Remote app: emacs (emacs-21.3-17). This is what I always use, but >>I've also seen spewage in xterms etc... >> >>I googled for 'keystroke repeated vnc' etc... and various permutations >> >> > > > >>and combinations of similar english text and did not find anything >>useful. >> >>Any history on this or solution would be appreciated. >> >>VNC aside, I've used the same setup to run other apps via vpn and have >> >> > > > >>not seen this problem. If keystrokes are sent 1 character at a time >>over the network, it almost seems like the vnc client app is resending >> >> > > > >>the packet for a given keystroke because it perceives the prior packet >>(keystroke) to have been dropped ... when in fact they all arrive and >>barf all over my screen. This problem is intermittent, so network >>latency could very well be a large contributing factor. >> >>Regards, >>Brian Auld >>_______________________________________________ >>VNC-List mailing list >>VNC-List@realvnc.com >>To remove yourself from the list visit: >>http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list >> >> >_______________________________________________ >VNC-List mailing list >VNC-List@realvnc.com >To remove yourself from the list visit: >http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From ludovicocalcaterra@hotmail.it Wed Aug 16 18:42:01 2006 From: ludovicocalcaterra@hotmail.it (ludovico calcaterra) Date: Wed Aug 16 17:42:01 2006 Subject: VNC Viewer GPL Problem. Message-ID: hi all, i have a question about VNC Licensing, and it seems that I can't easily find a satisfactory answer. I have read a lot of the messages in the VNC-List about the subject, many times the GPL license text and faq, but without arriving at any definitive answer to my problem. Well, I'd like to incorporate the Ultr@VNC viewer (or the RealVNC one, for that matter) into a tunneling application of ours. This tunneling program will be commercially sold and its proprietary source code will remain undisclosed. The application in question and the VNC Viewer will communicate by the means of normal Winsock TCP - VNC connections, so no special program state or structure will be shared or mantained by the two parts. At this time, we are already successfully integrating with the MS Terminal Services Advanced Client... The problem here is that we'd like to integrate the VNC viewer itself into the windows of our application, without spawning an external process or one or more external windows. It is essentially an "aesthetic problem"... A solution we devised to resolve this problem is to develop an ActiveX control derived from the Ultr@VNC viewer source code, then making public its source code (of the "derived work") under the same GPL license terms of the original program... The final GPL ActiveX control will expose a Connect and a Disconnect method and probably an IsConnected and IsDisconnected events... No more. There will be nothing in the ActiveX control source code that will be directly or indirectly specific to our commercial application. Then we will host that ActiveX control in our commercial non-GPL app... The GPL faq (that I have read many times) talks about address spaces and interprocess communication systems, but I guess that this specific situation is kinda of a "borderline case"... At this point, I'm lost... Can you give me your opinion about this problem ? Can we proceed in this way ?? Thank you in advance, Ludovico Calcaterra _________________________________________________________________ Ami viaggiare?Ma non sai dove andare? http://search.msn.it/results.aspx?q=viaggiare&FORM=QBRE From rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com Wed Aug 16 18:59:00 2006 From: rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com (Robert Van Overmeiren) Date: Wed Aug 16 17:59:00 2006 Subject: Does tcp 0 0 *:5901 *:* LIST mean 5901 is wide open? Message-ID: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FEA@mail.vcommerce.local> > If you aren't using localhost:5 in the VNC viewer, you aren't using the SSH tunnel. > William Hooper I was able to connect to localhost:5, from within the LAN, after changing my putty settings to SSH directly to the workstation and vncserver port. Since I'm using compression, the command would look like this: ssh -C -L 5905:localhost:5901 10.3.1.194 So localhost and 10.3.1.194 are the vncserver computer. How can I tunnel remotely through a gateway though? Connect the remote workstation to a port on the gateway, then connect the gateway to a local port? I've been thinking I might need to do something like this, but am only now seeing how this might be done. Best regards, Robert Van Overmeiren From harold@wolfeden.demon.co.uk Wed Aug 16 19:10:02 2006 From: harold@wolfeden.demon.co.uk (Harold Fuchs) Date: Wed Aug 16 18:10:02 2006 Subject: how to confirm 4.1.2 fixed security flaw? References: <00de01c6c13a$e9d03c40$06000100@sturton.local> Message-ID: <009f01c6c155$cc79e7c0$6801b150@angua> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Weatherall" > I like their spelling of "eavesdropping"... > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > Presumably because, in the security world, Bob and Alice are the good guys trying to exchange uncompromised messages while Eve is the nasty guy trying to listen in. ;-) ;-) Harold Fuchs From dmiller@amfes.com Wed Aug 16 19:58:01 2006 From: dmiller@amfes.com (Daniel L. Miller) Date: Wed Aug 16 18:58:01 2006 Subject: TAPI Audi Message-ID: <44E35C5E.8030608@amfes.com> Howdy all! I'm using VNC4, on a Windows 98 virtual machine from VMWare on a Linux workstation. I have a Hayes Smartmodem 1200 connected to that workstation for administering remote security systems - yes, it is one of those ancient shiny boxes that sits on top of the computer with blinking red lights. I just noticed that I can now hear the actual modem during the connection phase via my remote client. This is super incredibly awesome! When did this become available? -- Daniel From rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com Wed Aug 16 22:25:01 2006 From: rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com (Robert Van Overmeiren) Date: Wed Aug 16 21:25:01 2006 Subject: Does tcp 0 0 *:5901 *:* LIST mean 5901 is wide open? Message-ID: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FEB@mail.vcommerce.local> After a check of the archives I see that when you setup a port forwarded connection, its between 2 hosts, not three as I tried to do. So I ssh'd to the gateway, then setup an SSH port forward from the gateway (5904) to the vncserver (10.3.1.194:5901). ssh -C -L 5904:localhost:5901 10.3.1.194 Then made a 2nd connection to the gateway, forwarding port 5905 on the viewing client to 5904 on the gateway. ssh -C -L 5905:localhost:5904 gateway.corp.com Then I was able to connect with VNC Viewer to localhost:5 and I believe this will work when I try from outside the LAN. Is there not a way to instantiate both connections/forwards with one command? Thx, Bob V -------------------------- If you aren't using localhost:5 in the VNC viewer, you aren't using the SSH tunnel. -- William Hooper _______________________________________________ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From whooper@freeshell.org Wed Aug 16 22:59:01 2006 From: whooper@freeshell.org (William Hooper) Date: Wed Aug 16 21:59:01 2006 Subject: Does tcp 0 0 *:5901 *:* LIST mean 5901 is wide open? In-Reply-To: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FEB@mail.vcommerce.local> References: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FEB@mail.vcommerce.local> Message-ID: <17406.70.61.179.202.1155761878.squirrel@whooper.org> Robert Van Overmeiren wrote: [snip] > Is there not a way to instantiate both connections/forwards with one > command? Have you read the page I pointed to before? http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/DTG/attarchive/vnc/sshvnc.html -- William Hooper From rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com Thu Aug 17 00:06:00 2006 From: rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com (Robert Van Overmeiren) Date: Wed Aug 16 23:06:00 2006 Subject: Does tcp 0 0 *:5901 *:* LIST mean 5901 is wide open? Message-ID: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FED@mail.vcommerce.local> Part of it, as well as a lot of other reading. I see in there where it says you can forward to a 3rd box, which I had partially going. In putty I've got the gateway IP, source port 5905, destination 10.3.1.194:5901, compression, Local ports accept remote connections, Remote ports do same. The command would look like this: ssh -g -L 5905:10.3.1.194:5901 gateway.corp.com Well, I got the connection going, though I'm not sure if it will work remotely yet. Thx again, -----Original Message----- From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of William Hooper Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 1:58 PM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: Does tcp 0 0 *:5901 *:* LIST mean 5901 is wide open? Robert Van Overmeiren wrote: [snip] > Is there not a way to instantiate both connections/forwards with one > command? Have you read the page I pointed to before? http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/DTG/attarchive/vnc/sshvnc.html -- William Hooper _______________________________________________ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From cheshireccat@gmail.com Thu Aug 17 00:16:01 2006 From: cheshireccat@gmail.com (Cheshire Cat) Date: Wed Aug 16 23:16:01 2006 Subject: File Transfer question #4857365 Message-ID: <724bdbcb0608161513l7555b709yecd177f3bbff1263@mail.gmail.com> I can now say that I have upgraded to 4.2.5 on the server and the client and am still having issues. I have checked the settings for the server and the client and both have file transfers enabled. from what I understand, file transfers should just be drag and drop from the client side. If not, please expain, would like to keep windows services to a minimum, so removing my ftp server would be nice as I also run apache and a few other web services on the computer in question. Any tips as the search option on the real vnc mailing list page is quite a challenge to sort through. On 8/16/06, James Weatherall wrote: > > Hi J.D, > > File transfer was introduced in VNC Enterprise Edition 4.2, so it sounds > like you're running either a 4.2.x release, or something else entirely! > > Please submit support requests via http://www.realvnc.com/support.html > > Regards, > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Cheshire Cat > > Sent: 15 August 2006 19:41 > > To: VNC-List@realvnc.com > > Subject: File Transfer question #4857364 > > > > Time for the File Transfer Question. Seems like there are > > hundreds of these > > in the archives and I'm unable to sort by age of file, so all > > I get is file > > transfer questions from 3 years ago. Now I have Enterprise > > edition 4.1.3 and > > I have tried File Transfer. I have file transfer enabled in > > the settings fro > > the VNC server service. I have forwarded ports 5500, 5800 and > > 5900 to this > > PC through my router and it still does not seem to work for > > me, I should > > also note that I use the VNC client (newest version) to connect to the > > server. Anything I'm not thinking of? Any ideas on how to fix this? > > J.D. > > _______________________________________________ > > VNC-List mailing list > > VNC-List@realvnc.com > > To remove yourself from the list visit: > > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From msiegal@todoes.com Thu Aug 17 00:31:01 2006 From: msiegal@todoes.com (Mark Siegal) Date: Wed Aug 16 23:31:01 2006 Subject: Timeout with VNC free 4.1.1 & Trend Micro PC Cillin-2006 Message-ID: <002f01c6c183$829558a0$0200a8c0@MarkII> Please help! I am a novice VNC and computer user. My tech guy installed the free version 4.1.1 about a year ago and I can't locate him anymore. On 8/15/06 I renewed my Trend Micro PC-Cillin and went from the 2005 version to the 2006. After de-installing 2005, and installing PC-Cillin 2006, I could not use the VNC program anymore. When I try to access another computer in my building (the host) from my computer (client), the message I get is firstly: Attempting to connect to host. then, after it attemps and fails, I get the following: VNC VIEWER: Error Unable to connect to host: connection timed out (10060) I have tried to adjust everything that I could think of, including the security (firewall) settings in 2006, but nothing works. Please help me as the VNC program saves me a lot of time and steps to-and-from the other computer. Thank you, in advance, for helping me with this problem. Sincerely, Mark msiegal@todoes.com From jimmy@janimation.com Thu Aug 17 02:18:00 2006 From: jimmy@janimation.com (jimmy gass) Date: Thu Aug 17 01:18:00 2006 Subject: Noobie squared away Message-ID: <44E3B590.3000300@janimation.com> Thanks for everyones help. I've managed to get connected by the method explained by Jerry. Thanks again. I configured my router to let in 5500, and had them connect to me from their server. Jimmy From jnw@realvnc.com Thu Aug 17 11:41:01 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Thu Aug 17 10:41:01 2006 Subject: File Transfer question #4857365 In-Reply-To: <724bdbcb0608161513l7555b709yecd177f3bbff1263@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002501c6c1e1$304ad210$06000100@sturton.local> Hi J.D. Please submit support requests via http://www.realvnc.com/support.html Cheers, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Cheshire Cat > Sent: 16 August 2006 23:13 > To: VNC-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Re: File Transfer question #4857365 > > I can now say that I have upgraded to 4.2.5 on the server and > the client and > am still having issues. I have checked the settings for the > server and the > client and both have file transfers enabled. from what I > understand, file > transfers should just be drag and drop from the client side. > If not, please > expain, would like to keep windows services to a minimum, so > removing my ftp > server would be nice as I also run apache and a few other web > services on > the computer in question. Any tips as the search option on > the real vnc > mailing list page is quite a challenge to sort through. > > On 8/16/06, James Weatherall wrote: > > > > Hi J.D, > > > > File transfer was introduced in VNC Enterprise Edition 4.2, > so it sounds > > like you're running either a 4.2.x release, or something > else entirely! > > > > Please submit support requests via > http://www.realvnc.com/support.html > > > > Regards, > > > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > > > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Cheshire Cat > > > Sent: 15 August 2006 19:41 > > > To: VNC-List@realvnc.com > > > Subject: File Transfer question #4857364 > > > > > > Time for the File Transfer Question. Seems like there are > > > hundreds of these > > > in the archives and I'm unable to sort by age of file, so all > > > I get is file > > > transfer questions from 3 years ago. Now I have Enterprise > > > edition 4.1.3 and > > > I have tried File Transfer. I have file transfer enabled in > > > the settings fro > > > the VNC server service. I have forwarded ports 5500, 5800 and > > > 5900 to this > > > PC through my router and it still does not seem to work for > > > me, I should > > > also note that I use the VNC client (newest version) to > connect to the > > > server. Anything I'm not thinking of? Any ideas on how to > fix this? > > > J.D. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > VNC-List mailing list > > > VNC-List@realvnc.com > > > To remove yourself from the list visit: > > > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From jnw@realvnc.com Thu Aug 17 11:53:00 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Thu Aug 17 10:53:00 2006 Subject: keystroke spewage In-Reply-To: <44E94AC31873BC43A74D040A9C1135224A793D@SOLVISTA.corp.lefthandnetworks.com> Message-ID: <002601c6c1e1$91fcbd20$06000100@sturton.local> > <--- some time prior to above ---> > This looks like it might be related. > > http://www.realvnc.com/products/enterprise/4.1/known-bugs.html > > Of course, the instructions don't apply to a gnome desktop, so now I > have to figure out how to map the fix to a gnome desktop environment. If I remember correctly, the xset command will correctly disable keyboard repeats both in the normal X way, and in the XKEYBOARD extension, and vice versa, so disabling key repeats in Gnome should work fine. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. From charlesl@neilsquire.ca Thu Aug 17 17:36:01 2006 From: charlesl@neilsquire.ca (Charles Levasseur) Date: Thu Aug 17 16:36:01 2006 Subject: Java Viewer Applet Message-ID: Hi I am looking for more control on the Java Viewer. For example, I can control using parameters if the buttons on top of the Java Viewer should be displayed or not. I can also control on the refresh rate, read only mode, password, etc... I have done this successfully with the Java Viewer of Tight VNC. Now I want to use the Java Viewer of Real VNC. The problem is that I can't find the jar file and the class file nor the list of parameters to control. Does anybody have any suggestions for Real VNC? Example of my HTML codes: TightVNC desktop Thanks -- NEIL SQUIRE SOCIETY - http://www.neilsquire.ca We use technology, knowledge and passion to empower Canadians with physical disabilities. Charles Levasseur | Distance Learning Coordinator / Program Coordinator Voice 506.856.9101 | Fax 506.854.7509 | charlesl@neilsquire.ca 236 St-George Street Suite 305, Moncton, NB E1C 1W1 This message and any attachments are directed in confidence to those named, and must not be reviewed, retained or disclosed without the consent of the sender or the named recipient(s). If you have received it in error, please delete it and notify us immediately. Le prisent courriel y compris toute pihce jointe sont destinis exclusivement aux personnes mentionnies. Il est interdit de revoir ou de conserver ce courriel ou d'en divulguer le contenu sans le consentement de l'expiditeur ou des destinataires visis. Si vous avez regu le prisent courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer et nous en aviser immidiatement. -----Original Message----- From: evets dranem [mailto:edranem@dranem.org] Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 7:57 AM To: Charles Levasseur Subject: Re: Java Viewer Applet Charles Levasseur wrote: >Hello > >I want to create my own HTML file that would include the Java Viewer >Applet for connecting to a specific Real VNC server (4.1.1). Where can >I download the Java viewer applet from and what parameters can be >controlled? > >Thanks >-- >NEIL SQUIRE SOCIETY - http://www.neilsquire.ca > We use technology, knowledge and passion to >empower Canadians with physical disabilities. > >Charles Levasseur | Distance Learning Coordinator / Program Coordinator >Voice 506.856.9101 | Fax 506.854.7509 | charlesl@neilsquire.ca >236 St-George Street Suite 305, Moncton, NB E1C 1W1 > >This message and any attachments are directed in confidence to those >named, and must not be reviewed, retained or disclosed without the >consent of the sender or the named recipient(s). If you have received >it in error, please delete it and notify us immediately. > >Le prisent courriel y compris toute pihce jointe sont destinis >exclusivement aux personnes mentionnies. Il est interdit de revoir ou >de conserver ce courriel ou d'en divulguer le contenu sans le >consentement de l'expiditeur ou des destinataires visis. Si vous avez >regu le prisent courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer et nous en >aviser immidiatement. _______________________________________________ >VNC-List mailing list >VNC-List@realvnc.com >To remove yourself from the list visit: >http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list > > > put href=yourspecificserverip:5800 on the page From rob.nicholson@informed-direct.com Thu Aug 17 17:48:00 2006 From: rob.nicholson@informed-direct.com (Nicholson, Rob) Date: Thu Aug 17 16:48:00 2006 Subject: VNC and Terminal Services! Message-ID: <5C531263E9C5D911A519000A5E237618DC0536@INFORMED02> Am I right in saying that the original poster is wanting to use VNC from somewhere else to "see" the terminal server sessions of the users who are connected from the dumb terminals? If this is the case, then I think you're right in saying it won't work. VNC can be used on TS but only to allow you to remote access the console session. For example, I could VNC right now to TERM01 and logon to the console. But I wouldn't be able to VNC into a user who happens to be running a TS session on there. My instant reaction was "Why would you want to do this, doesn't TS have shadowing already" but I stopped myself as shadowing is a feature of Citrix Presentation Server on top of Terminal Server. Whilst suggesting Citrix is a bit of sledge hammer to crack a nut, if does work very, very well and adds lots of other useful features that native TS doesn't support. Cheers, Rob. -----Original Message----- From: John Aldrich [mailto:john@chattanooga.net] Sent: 15 August 2006 15:58 To: Nestor A. Angel Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: VNC and Terminal Services! On Tuesday 15 August 2006 08:02 am, you wrote: > John - Good morning. My name is Nestor A. Angel and I have a question > about VNC. Unfortunately I have tried to sent my question to the > VNC-list but I have a problem and it e-mail always get back to me with > errors. I know you are an expert on the VNC utility and this is the > reason I would like to ask you about my issue. > > The following describes the my issue. > > I am using VNC Server for Win32 4.0 in our Windows environment. I am > testing a new full automatic line in which we will be using five WYSE > (model WT1125SE) terminal services units. My goal is to provide > remote assistance to the users using these terminal workstation. The > WYSE terminals are setup with its own IP address and they are > connected to our Terminal Services Server. > > How can I connect to the WYSE terminal interface? Also how can I > connect to an specific session in the Terminal Services Server? > > Any Assistance with this matter would be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you in advance for your assistance! > Hmm... I'm not sure. I'll forward this to the list for you... I'm not sure I consider myself an "expert" but I will admit to being experienced with VNC. :-) My *gut feeling* is that it's not going to work, unless you get the "enterprise" version, because VNC Free version is incompatible with Remote Desktop, which is basically another "flavor" of TS. Anyway, I'm CC-ing this to the list so that, hopefully, it'll get an answer. If I'm wrong about TS and VNC, I'll gladly sit corrected. I can only go by what's been posted on the list before, as I have no experience with TS and VNC. _______________________________________________ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From msiegal@todoes.com Fri Aug 18 00:59:00 2006 From: msiegal@todoes.com (Mark Siegal) Date: Thu Aug 17 23:59:00 2006 Subject: Timeout with VNC free 4.1.2 & Trend Micro PC Cillin-2006 Message-ID: <001301c6c250$a9155e80$0200a8c0@MarkII> Hello, Evets Dranem, and thank you for your response to my plea for help. At your suggestion, I did install the 4.1.2 on both the server and my client computers as applied to their respective functions. The result is that VNC does not work even with the upgrade. I contacted Trend Micro to see if they had any suggestions as to what to change their settings to and they said to change my personal firewall setting from "Office" to "Home Computer". That did not work either with 4.1.1 or 4.1.2. So, then, I tried 4.1.2 with the original firewall "Office" setting. Still no luck. So, I am back to square one. Would you or anyone else in the VNC support community perchance have another suggestion? As always, your input is greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Mark Siegal Todo es, Inc. msiegal@todoes.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- ----- Original Message ----- From: evets dranem To: Mark Siegal Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 4:07 AM Subject: Re: Timeout with VNC free 4.1.1 & Trend Micro PC Cillin-2006 Mark Siegal wrote: >Please help! >I am a novice VNC and computer user. My tech guy installed the free version >4.1.1 about a year ago and I can't locate him anymore. > >On 8/15/06 I renewed my Trend Micro PC-Cillin and went from the 2005 version >to the 2006. > >After de-installing 2005, and installing PC-Cillin 2006, I could not use the >VNC program anymore. When I try to access another computer in my building (the >host) from my computer (client), the message I get is firstly: Attempting to >connect to host. > >then, after it attemps and fails, I get the following: >VNC VIEWER: Error >Unable to connect to host: connection timed out (10060) > >I have tried to adjust everything that I could think of, including the >security (firewall) settings in 2006, but nothing works. Please help me as the >VNC program saves me a lot of time and steps to-and-from the other computer. >Thank you, in advance, for helping me with this problem. >Sincerely, >Mark >msiegal@todoes.com >_______________________________________________ >VNC-List mailing list >VNC-List@realvnc.com >To remove yourself from the list visit: >http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list > upgrade to 412 immediately critical bug in 411 www.realvnc.com see link at top of page about security bug install now From jeff@glaspie.org Fri Aug 18 05:00:02 2006 From: jeff@glaspie.org (Jeff Glaspie) Date: Fri Aug 18 04:00:02 2006 Subject: Timeout with VNC free 4.1.2 & Trend Micro PC Cillin-2006 In-Reply-To: <001301c6c250$a9155e80$0200a8c0@MarkII> Message-ID: <200608180259.k7I2xV627110@realvnc.com> I think that I have read all of the previous posts but correct me if I miss anything. I have run in to similar problem but with Norton. What I found is that the firewall setting were reset back to the defaults on the reinstall and beings that anti-virus programs are designed to KEEP THINGS OUT, none of the "presets" include VNC. I had to create a custom rule to allow vnc to work and also reset the ports as well. Try it and see, I am not familiar with Micro Trend products but I am guessing that they have similair features. --------> Jeff -----Original Message----- From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Mark Siegal Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 5:59 PM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Timeout with VNC free 4.1.2 & Trend Micro PC Cillin-2006 Hello, Evets Dranem, and thank you for your response to my plea for help. At your suggestion, I did install the 4.1.2 on both the server and my client computers as applied to their respective functions. The result is that VNC does not work even with the upgrade. I contacted Trend Micro to see if they had any suggestions as to what to change their settings to and they said to change my personal firewall setting from "Office" to "Home Computer". That did not work either with 4.1.1 or 4.1.2. So, then, I tried 4.1.2 with the original firewall "Office" setting. Still no luck. So, I am back to square one. Would you or anyone else in the VNC support community perchance have another suggestion? As always, your input is greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Mark Siegal Todo es, Inc. msiegal@todoes.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- ----- Original Message ----- From: evets dranem To: Mark Siegal Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 4:07 AM Subject: Re: Timeout with VNC free 4.1.1 & Trend Micro PC Cillin-2006 Mark Siegal wrote: >Please help! >I am a novice VNC and computer user. My tech guy installed the free version >4.1.1 about a year ago and I can't locate him anymore. > >On 8/15/06 I renewed my Trend Micro PC-Cillin and went from the 2005 version >to the 2006. > >After de-installing 2005, and installing PC-Cillin 2006, I could not use the >VNC program anymore. When I try to access another computer in my building (the >host) from my computer (client), the message I get is firstly: Attempting to >connect to host. > >then, after it attemps and fails, I get the following: >VNC VIEWER: Error >Unable to connect to host: connection timed out (10060) > >I have tried to adjust everything that I could think of, including the >security (firewall) settings in 2006, but nothing works. Please help me as the >VNC program saves me a lot of time and steps to-and-from the other computer. >Thank you, in advance, for helping me with this problem. >Sincerely, >Mark >msiegal@todoes.com >_______________________________________________ >VNC-List mailing list >VNC-List@realvnc.com >To remove yourself from the list visit: >http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list > upgrade to 412 immediately critical bug in 411 www.realvnc.com see link at top of page about security bug install now _______________________________________________ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From vnclist@lostinthewood.com Fri Aug 18 07:29:00 2006 From: vnclist@lostinthewood.com (Gregg Donley) Date: Fri Aug 18 06:29:00 2006 Subject: Configuring sever for single port Message-ID: <44E54FDA.7050306@lostinthewood.com> I've read the documentation and can't find out how to configure the vnc server to utilize a single port. I want to access my home machine via a work machine that runs everything through a proxy so I only have access to ports 80 and 443. I have forwarded 443 on my home firewall to the pc running vnc server with the java viewer running on port 443. I get the initial connection and get the java viewer prompt. I enter and never get a response. If I try this from localhost, it works fine. I suspect it is still using port 5900 as well but I can figure out how to configure for single port operation, though I see references to this in a few places. Thanks. From oursales@gmail.com Fri Aug 18 21:05:01 2006 From: oursales@gmail.com (Lox Thedreaded) Date: Fri Aug 18 20:05:01 2006 Subject: Dynamic IP Message-ID: So, have used the RealVNC successfully on a number of sites; usually using port forwarding on various PC's connected through routers, including wirelessly. Question: How to configure a laptop to receive port forwarded traffic via wireless router and continue to have access to public wireless service? Problem: Need to setup a laptop that must be able to connect wirelessly to public access points, as well as my private one. The method I've used in the past for port forwarding is fine when I can set the target PC to a static IP -- but using a laptop that needs to continue to be able to accept dynamic IPs from public wifi sites seems to prohibit this technique. Currently using Linksys SRX200 wireless / router with RealVNC Free edition. Thanks. From ecathers@gloucestercitylibrary.org Fri Aug 18 22:24:00 2006 From: ecathers@gloucestercitylibrary.org (Erica Cathers) Date: Fri Aug 18 21:24:00 2006 Subject: Newbie needs help, missing vnchooks.dll Message-ID: <000f01c6c304$3d859d10$041e050a@reference> We've been having an error message pop up when the computer boots up, about WinVNC.exe not being able to locate a dll, specifically VNCHooks.dll. It looks like we have both WinVNC v.3.3.3 and RealVNC free edition 4.1.1 installed. The RealVNC 4.1.1 is the one that starts on its own at boot up, and looks like the newer software. Is there any reason to have both? Is the "missing dll" message coming from the old version, which maybe could just be uninstalled? FYI--The computer is running Windows 2000. EC From jason2@mcclellans.ca Fri Aug 18 22:43:01 2006 From: jason2@mcclellans.ca (Jason McClellan) Date: Fri Aug 18 21:43:01 2006 Subject: Dynamic IP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000601c6c306$bc80b710$6400a8c0@A3400> You have two issues with this problem; finding out your VNC server's (laptop's) IP address, and port forwarding. You can use a dynamic DNS service, ie. DynDNS.com et al. to keep track of your IP - you get a DNS name from them (ie. mydomain.dyndns.com), you install their client on your laptop, then every time you connect to a different access point the client updates your entry. You can then always connect no matter where you are, using the DNS name, without knowing what the IP is. However this only works if the provider/access point you are using is not blocking ports, or if you have the ability to forward the ports to your machine through the router. You have to have the ability to establish an inbound connection through whatever wireless access point you are using. For most 'public' access points, this is unlikely. :( Jason -----Original Message----- From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Lox Thedreaded Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 3:05 PM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Dynamic IP So, have used the RealVNC successfully on a number of sites; usually using port forwarding on various PC's connected through routers, including wirelessly. Question: How to configure a laptop to receive port forwarded traffic via wireless router and continue to have access to public wireless service? Problem: Need to setup a laptop that must be able to connect wirelessly to public access points, as well as my private one. The method I've used in the past for port forwarding is fine when I can set the target PC to a static IP -- but using a laptop that needs to continue to be able to accept dynamic IPs from public wifi sites seems to prohibit this technique. Currently using Linksys SRX200 wireless / router with RealVNC Free edition. Thanks. _______________________________________________ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From oursales@gmail.com Fri Aug 18 23:52:00 2006 From: oursales@gmail.com (Lox Thedreaded) Date: Fri Aug 18 22:52:00 2006 Subject: Dynamic IP In-Reply-To: <000601c6c306$bc80b710$6400a8c0@A3400> References: <000601c6c306$bc80b710$6400a8c0@A3400> Message-ID: The problem is that to port forward, you have to define a specified Local IP .. so, say I will use RealVNC only on one access point, that access point will need to know what IP the laptop is going to have even before it's assigned, otherwise the port forward setup won't work. Of course my fear is that I'm overlooking the obvious ... [sorry if I double posted] -lh On 8/18/06, Jason McClellan wrote: > > You have two issues with this problem; finding out your VNC server's > (laptop's) IP address, and port forwarding. > > You can use a dynamic DNS service, ie. DynDNS.com et al. to keep track of > your IP - you get a DNS name from them (ie. mydomain.dyndns.com), you > install their client on your laptop, then every time you connect to a > different access point the client updates your entry. You can then always > connect no matter where you are, using the DNS name, without knowing what > the IP is. > > However this only works if the provider/access point you are using is not > blocking ports, or if you have the ability to forward the ports to your > machine through the router. You have to have the ability to establish an > inbound connection through whatever wireless access point you are using. > For > most 'public' access points, this is unlikely. :( > > Jason > > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On > Behalf Of Lox Thedreaded > Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 3:05 PM > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Dynamic IP > > So, have used the RealVNC successfully on a number of sites; usually using > port forwarding on various PC's connected through routers, including > wirelessly. > > Question: How to configure a laptop to receive port forwarded traffic via > wireless router and continue to have access to public wireless service? > > Problem: Need to setup a laptop that must be able to connect wirelessly to > public access points, as well as my private one. The method I've used in > the past for port forwarding is fine when I can set the target PC to a > static IP -- but using a laptop that needs to continue to be able to > accept > dynamic IPs from public wifi sites seems to prohibit this technique. > > Currently using Linksys SRX200 wireless / router with RealVNC Free > edition. > > Thanks. > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From john@chattanooga.net Sat Aug 19 00:58:00 2006 From: john@chattanooga.net (John Aldrich) Date: Fri Aug 18 23:58:00 2006 Subject: Can't remotely connect through the internet In-Reply-To: <005b01c6c18d$452526d0$6501a8c0@DBQVMW61> References: <004b01c6c168$7ae73490$6501a8c0@DBQVMW61> <200608161726.31350.john@chattanooga.net> <005b01c6c18d$452526d0$6501a8c0@DBQVMW61> Message-ID: <200608181857.19992.john@chattanooga.net> On Wednesday 16 August 2006 07:39 pm, you wrote: > Do you know of a program that I can use to tunnel out that I can keep on my > flash drive that does not require me to actually install the program on the > computer? Thanks! > Sure: PuTTY should do the trick. It's an SSH client. Use this version, though, as the regular version still puts stuff into the registry, I think: http://socialistsushi.com/portaputty I don't know of anything else... you might try posting to the list and see. John From john@chattanooga.net Sat Aug 19 05:11:00 2006 From: john@chattanooga.net (John Aldrich) Date: Sat Aug 19 04:11:00 2006 Subject: Can't remotely connect through the internet In-Reply-To: <000601c6c32e$f88c6420$6401a8c0@DBQVMW61> References: <004b01c6c168$7ae73490$6501a8c0@DBQVMW61> <200608161726.31350.john@chattanooga.net> <005b01c6c18d$452526d0$6501a8c0@DBQVMW61> <200608181857.19992.john@chattanooga.net> <000601c6c32e$f88c6420$6401a8c0@DBQVMW61> Message-ID: <20060818231024.p7z2o8g4o0wc40kk@webmail.spamcop.net> Quoting Adam : > Thank You soooo much!! > I got the program but how can I use it with TightVNC to access my computer > on campus? Thank you soooo much! You don't know how much this means to me. > :-) > Hmm... are you trying to access a PC at home *from* campus or the other way around? If you want the former, you're probably out of luck, unless you can convince the school network admin to allow you to access your school PC from outside.. If the latter, you *might* be able to find something like Hamachi (www.hamachi.cc) to create an encrypted tunnel. You might also want to look at Kaboodle (www.kaboodle.org) as well as this VNC FAQ: http://faq.gotomyvnc.com/fom-serve/cache/88.html From sbest@best.com Sat Aug 19 18:37:01 2006 From: sbest@best.com (Scott C. Best) Date: Sat Aug 19 17:37:01 2006 Subject: Can't remotely connect through the internet In-Reply-To: <20060819110001.6782.47877.Mailman@realvnc.com> References: <20060819110001.6782.47877.Mailman@realvnc.com> Message-ID: <20060819162253.R30996@kaboodle.org> Adam: Heya. I administer the Kaboodle program that John mentioned. It uses something called "echoWare" to make firewall-friendly VNC connections, without any port-forwarding setup. The most advanced combination of echoWare and VNC right now is in UltraVNC -- we integrated echoWare directly into the UltraVNC Viewer and Server. You can download it here: ftp://ftp.echogent.com/UltraVNC/beta/UltraVNC-ew-1.02-RC08-Setup.exe Using echoWare, you simply make a connection to an "echoServer" on both sides of the connection (Server and Viewer). Once logged into an echoServer, the two sides of the connection can establish "firewall friendly" connections to each other (as well as, of course, connect with normal VNC connections). Hope that helps! -Scott PS: Am CC'ing this to oursales@gmail.com as well, since echoWare also solves for his dynamic-IP/public-wireless problem. >> Thank You soooo much!! >> I got the program but how can I use it with TightVNC to access my computer >> on campus? Thank you soooo much! You don't know how much this means to me. >> :-) >> > Hmm... are you trying to access a PC at home *from* campus or the other way > around? If you want the former, you're probably out of luck, unless you can > convince the school network admin to allow you to access your school PC from > outside.. If the latter, you *might* be able to find something like Hamachi > (www.hamachi.cc) to create an encrypted tunnel. You might also want to look at > Kaboodle (www.kaboodle.org) as well as this VNC FAQ: > http://faq.gotomyvnc.com/fom-serve/cache/88.html From sbest@best.com Sat Aug 19 22:51:00 2006 From: sbest@best.com (Scott C. Best) Date: Sat Aug 19 21:51:00 2006 Subject: Can't remotely connect through the internet In-Reply-To: <000601c6c3b3$a4706730$6401a8c0@DBQVMW61> References: <20060819110001.6782.47877.Mailman@realvnc.com> <20060819162253.R30996@kaboodle.org> <000601c6c3b3$a4706730$6401a8c0@DBQVMW61> Message-ID: <20060819194655.H16896@kaboodle.org> Adam: Yes, you got it. To set it up: 1. Install the UltraVNC server on the PC you want to take remote control over. Give it a good VNC password. When it's running in the service tray, right-click on it and choose "EchoServer Properties". Use that to log into an echoServer, either one you control, or our free demo one (the default). The "login name" it uses can be anything you want: by default, it will choose the Windows PC name. 2. Install the UltraVNC Viewer on the PC you want to do your remote-controlling from. Sign into the same echoServer in the "Options..." screen. Then on the main screen, just type in the echoServer "login name" from #1, select the "Connect via EchoServer" radio-button, and click connect. That will connect the Viewer to the Server via a "firewall friendly" tunnel, that's 128-bit AES secured end to end. Hope that helps! -Scott On Sat, 19 Aug 2006, Adam wrote: > Awesome!!! So are you saying that I should be able to access my computer > remotely through the colleges computer without any trouble? How should I set > it up to do that? I want to be able to load everything on my usb flash drive > and use it on the colleges computer without installing anything. Thank you!!! > Thank you soooo much!!! :-) > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott C. Best" > To: > Cc: ; ; > Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 11:35 AM > Subject: Re: Can't remotely connect through the internet > > >> Adam: >> >> Heya. I administer the Kaboodle program that John mentioned. >> It uses something called "echoWare" to make firewall-friendly VNC >> connections, without any port-forwarding setup. The most advanced >> combination of echoWare and VNC right now is in UltraVNC -- we >> integrated echoWare directly into the UltraVNC Viewer and Server. >> You can download it here: >> >> ftp://ftp.echogent.com/UltraVNC/beta/UltraVNC-ew-1.02-RC08-Setup.exe >> >> Using echoWare, you simply make a connection to an >> "echoServer" on both sides of the connection (Server and Viewer). >> Once logged into an echoServer, the two sides of the connection >> can establish "firewall friendly" connections to each other (as >> well as, of course, connect with normal VNC connections). >> >> Hope that helps! >> >> -Scott >> >> PS: Am CC'ing this to oursales@gmail.com as well, since echoWare >> also solves for his dynamic-IP/public-wireless problem. >> >> >>>> Thank You soooo much!! >>>> I got the program but how can I use it with TightVNC to access my >>>> computer >>>> on campus? Thank you soooo much! You don't know how much this means to >>>> me. >>>> :-) >>>> >>> Hmm... are you trying to access a PC at home *from* campus or the other >>> way >>> around? If you want the former, you're probably out of luck, unless you >>> can >>> convince the school network admin to allow you to access your school PC >>> from >>> outside.. If the latter, you *might* be able to find something like >>> Hamachi >>> (www.hamachi.cc) to create an encrypted tunnel. You might also want to >>> look at >>> Kaboodle (www.kaboodle.org) as well as this VNC FAQ: >>> http://faq.gotomyvnc.com/fom-serve/cache/88.html From maxem@gmx.net Sun Aug 20 22:24:01 2006 From: maxem@gmx.net (Matthias Lach) Date: Sun Aug 20 21:24:01 2006 Subject: Problems during install on WindowsXp (MoveFile failed; code 5) Message-ID: <000101c6c496$80325ac0$0100a8c0@max47> Hello, I try to install vnc-4_1_2-x86_win32.exe (739240 byte) und 2 Windows Xp PCs. On one i had no problmes and there i like the server to run as service.( Server seems running ). And the other pc, my work-pc, returns a error message: (http://www.lach.de/pics/vnc4error.jpg) C:\programme\realvnc\vnc4\vnccongig.exe An error occured while trying to rename a file in the destination directory: MoveFile failed; code 5 Zugriff verweigert Click retry.... Iam user with Admin rights. I disabled firewall during the install. I searched for this, but cant find any hint. May anyone of you maybe help me? Thank You. -- Mit freundlichen Gr|_en Matthias Lach, Gummersbach From vpresident@gmx.net Mon Aug 21 03:19:01 2006 From: vpresident@gmx.net (VP) Date: Mon Aug 21 02:19:01 2006 Subject: How do you save/remember passwords in Real VNC so that you don't have to type one in each time you connect? Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20060821111119.01efdc38@pop.gmx.net> Hi, How do you save/remember passwords in Real VNC so that you don't have to type one in each time you connect? O/S: WinXP Pro I read this Thread: http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2006-April/054758.html which says: "The easiest way to handle this is to save a "shortcut" to the VNC connection. It will prompt if you wish to save the password with the shortcut. You should say "yes."" ... but how how do you "save a shortcut to the VNC connection" so that it remembers the password for that particular connection/address? Thanks for your assistance. From barry@cs.sierracollege.edu Mon Aug 21 08:54:01 2006 From: barry@cs.sierracollege.edu (Barry Brown) Date: Mon Aug 21 07:54:01 2006 Subject: Feature request: choose which monitor to serve Message-ID: I'm happy that WinVNC includes extended-desktop support. But would it be possible to specify in the server which monitor to serve, rather than serving the entire extended desktop? When I do presentations, I hook up my laptop to a projector. I then extend the desktop across both monitors. The presentation software puts slightly different things on each display. * The primary (laptop) display shows not only the slide I'm projecting, but also a "filmstrip" of the available slides and some controls. This way I can jump around the presentation easily. * The external display, however, just shows the current slide. There are no window borders, scroll bars, or anything. My idea is this: use VNC to mirror the external display on other computers. This would allow me to run the presentation "untethered." That is, I'd be free to roam around the room, using VNC over the wifi connection to remotely display the presentation on another computer which, in turn, would be connected to the projector. I have a couple of ideas of how this could work on the server side. In the VNC Server options, the user would be able to specify whether they wanted to server the entire extended desktop (as is done in the latest versions of the server), or pick which monitor to serve. Being able to select only one monitor would cut down on the number of updates. Perhaps the various options could be mapped to TCP ports. Say, 5900 for the whole extended desktop, 5901 for monitor 1, 5902 for monitor 2, etc. Taking this idea a step further, it might be handy to be able to serve an arbitrary portion of the overall desktop. Let's say I only want clients to be able to see one particular part of my screen. The VNC Server options could display a small representation of my desktop and I'd drag a marquee to specify which portion to serve. Is any of this feasible? Barry From sramu28@yahoo.com Mon Aug 21 09:07:07 2006 From: sramu28@yahoo.com (rama krishna) Date: Mon Aug 21 08:07:07 2006 Subject: can't see the remote desktop Message-ID: <20060821070442.23816.qmail@web55510.mail.re4.yahoo.com> I have downloaded and installed in my system VNC for linux.I followed the procedure described in the readme file. After installing i ran the server and it started without any problem. But if i connect to the server using vncviewer from another system i could only see a terminal of the server opening in the client.I am unable to see the server desktop as it is in the client. .vnc/xstartup file looked like this #!/bin/sh [-r $HOME /.Xresources] && xrdb $HOME /.Xresources xsetroot -solidgrey vncconfig -iconic & xterm -geometry 80*24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP Desktop" & twm & I will be thankful if somebody can help me out. Thanks Ramakrishna __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jnw@realvnc.com Mon Aug 21 14:03:01 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Mon Aug 21 13:03:01 2006 Subject: Feature request: choose which monitor to serve In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <030f01c6c519$ae74c3e0$06000100@sturton.local> Barry, VNC Server supports remoting of individual monitors' contents via the command-line/registry option DisplayDevice, which should be set to something like: \\.\DISPLAY0 for the primary display \\.\DISPLAY1 for the second display And so on. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Barry Brown > Sent: 21 August 2006 07:54 > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Feature request: choose which monitor to serve > > I'm happy that WinVNC includes extended-desktop support. But > would it > be possible to specify in the server which monitor to serve, rather > than serving the entire extended desktop? > > When I do presentations, I hook up my laptop to a projector. I then > extend the desktop across both monitors. The presentation software > puts slightly different things on each display. > > * The primary (laptop) display shows not only the slide I'm > projecting, but also a "filmstrip" of the available slides and some > controls. This way I can jump around the presentation easily. > > * The external display, however, just shows the current slide. There > are no window borders, scroll bars, or anything. > > My idea is this: use VNC to mirror the external display on other > computers. This would allow me to run the presentation "untethered." > That is, I'd be free to roam around the room, using VNC over > the wifi > connection to remotely display the presentation on another computer > which, in turn, would be connected to the projector. > > I have a couple of ideas of how this could work on the server side. > > In the VNC Server options, the user would be able to specify whether > they wanted to server the entire extended desktop (as is done in the > latest versions of the server), or pick which monitor to > serve. Being > able to select only one monitor would cut down on the number > of updates. > > Perhaps the various options could be mapped to TCP ports. Say, 5900 > for the whole extended desktop, 5901 for monitor 1, 5902 for monitor > 2, etc. > > Taking this idea a step further, it might be handy to be able to > serve an arbitrary portion of the overall desktop. Let's say I only > want clients to be able to see one particular part of my screen. The > VNC Server options could display a small representation of my > desktop > and I'd drag a marquee to specify which portion to serve. > > Is any of this feasible? > > Barry > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com Mon Aug 21 17:43:00 2006 From: rvanovermeiren@vcommerce.com (Robert Van Overmeiren) Date: Mon Aug 21 16:43:00 2006 Subject: Can't remotely connect through the internet Message-ID: <05A81DB7A62C354998E4E55B78FFC879D38FF9@mail.vcommerce.local> I'm new to VNC and tunneling, but found I can make a tunneling connection with Cygwin/OpenSSH and Mindterm as well as Putty. I have an old version of Mindterm (2.1) that includes a graphic SCP client. Its small and portable and doesn't install, so would work from a flash drive. Putty is probably more convenient, but there are other options. -----Original Message----- From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of John Aldrich Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 3:57 PM To: Adam; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: Can't remotely connect through the internet On Wednesday 16 August 2006 07:39 pm, you wrote: > Do you know of a program that I can use to tunnel out that I can keep on my > flash drive that does not require me to actually install the program on the > computer? Thanks! > Sure: PuTTY should do the trick. It's an SSH client. Use this version, though, as the regular version still puts stuff into the registry, I think: http://socialistsushi.com/portaputty I don't know of anything else... you might try posting to the list and see. John _______________________________________________ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From harold@wolfeden.demon.co.uk Mon Aug 21 19:56:00 2006 From: harold@wolfeden.demon.co.uk (Harold Fuchs) Date: Mon Aug 21 18:56:00 2006 Subject: Non Technical User Needs Help Message-ID: <00a501c6c54a$eafcb6c0$6801b150@angua> A friend of mine is a complete novice with computers. She runs Windows XP Home and has a broadband connection. Her ISP assigns her a (possibly) different IP address every time she connects. I run XP Pro/SP2, have a broadband connection and my ISP has assigned me a *fixed* IP address (yes, really). I'm comfortable installing and configuring software. Can she and I each run some VNC-based software so that when we are both running it we can do the following: 1. I can see her desktop 2. I can see her mouse movements, selections and what happens when she clicks on something - left, right, double click 3. I can take control of her mouse in such a way that she can see what I do 4. I can enter data from my keyboard into her computer I'm happy to run a server of some sort so that she connects to me or I'm happy to ask her to run a server. Asking her what her current IP address is might be a bit beyond her (sorry, that's not intended to be condescending). Is there some flavour of VNC which will do this? It needs to be *very* simple for her to install. Would I be better off using Windows Remote Assistance? Something else? Harold Fuchs London, England From john@chattanooga.net Mon Aug 21 21:21:01 2006 From: john@chattanooga.net (John Aldrich) Date: Mon Aug 21 20:21:01 2006 Subject: Non Technical User Needs Help In-Reply-To: <00a501c6c54a$eafcb6c0$6801b150@angua> References: <00a501c6c54a$eafcb6c0$6801b150@angua> Message-ID: <200608211520.48844.john@chattanooga.net> On Monday 21 August 2006 01:54 pm, Harold Fuchs wrote: > A friend of mine is a complete novice with computers. She runs Windows XP > Home and has a broadband connection. Her ISP assigns her a (possibly) > different IP address every time she connects. > > I run XP Pro/SP2, have a broadband connection and my ISP has assigned me a > *fixed* IP address (yes, really). I'm comfortable installing and > configuring software. > > Can she and I each run some VNC-based software so that when we are both > running it we can do the following: > > 1. I can see her desktop > 2. I can see her mouse movements, selections and what happens when she > clicks on something - left, right, double click > 3. I can take control of her mouse in such a way that she can see what I do > 4. I can enter data from my keyboard into her computer > > I'm happy to run a server of some sort so that she connects to me or I'm > happy to ask her to run a server. Asking her what her current IP address is > might be a bit beyond her (sorry, that's not intended to be condescending). > > Is there some flavour of VNC which will do this? It needs to be *very* > simple for her to install. > > Would I be better off using Windows Remote Assistance? Something else? > Well, she could get a Dynamic DNS account somewhere and run a client to update the DDNS record automagically whenever she logs in, and then you could connect to that machine. Or, you could use something like EchoVNC or Kaboodle or Hamachi (www.hamachi.cc) With Hamachi, you would install that and install VNC, then whenever she's online you could connect to her PC via Hamachi. Of course, you'd need to make sure that Windows' firewall allows both Hamachi, Kaboodle and VNC or EchoVNC if you choose to go that route. John From scott@smithdomain.com Mon Aug 21 22:02:00 2006 From: scott@smithdomain.com (B. Scott Smith) Date: Mon Aug 21 21:02:00 2006 Subject: Non Technical User Needs Help In-Reply-To: <00a501c6c54a$eafcb6c0$6801b150@angua> References: <00a501c6c54a$eafcb6c0$6801b150@angua> Message-ID: <44EA1122.8060104@smithdomain.com> Harold Fuchs wrote: > ... > Is there some flavour of VNC which will do this? It needs to be *very* simple > for her to install. > > Would I be better off using Windows Remote Assistance? Something else? > > Harold Fuchs > London, England > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-lis Although I hate recommending something from the "evil empire", if you're looking for the simplest (free) solution, and both sides are running XP, then I suggest using Remote Assistance via MSN Messenger. Although I haven't used it myself, I hear it is crazy simple, and extremely functional. I'm told it will also work behind firewalls and routers. Here is an MS document: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/learnmore/remoteassist/viaim.mspx If you try it, let us know how it worked out. From stustuff@gmail.com Mon Aug 21 22:12:02 2006 From: stustuff@gmail.com (Stuart Kelly) Date: Mon Aug 21 21:12:02 2006 Subject: Non Technical User Needs Help In-Reply-To: <00a501c6c54a$eafcb6c0$6801b150@angua> References: <00a501c6c54a$eafcb6c0$6801b150@angua> Message-ID: Hi Harold, Have a look at UltraVNC Single Click http://ultravnc.sourceforge.net/addons/singleclick.html You can give your friend a small executable which she can use to connect you to her pc when she needs help. Hope this helps, Stuart From dmcvicker@consolidated.net Tue Aug 22 03:36:01 2006 From: dmcvicker@consolidated.net (Doyal McVicker) Date: Tue Aug 22 02:36:01 2006 Subject: Non Technical User Needs Help References: <00a501c6c54a$eafcb6c0$6801b150@angua> Message-ID: <012601c6c58b$458b9760$6401a8c0@DOYAL1> Dear Mr. Fuchs, Just a note to let you know how I solved this problem of the DHCP address on one end of a wanted connection. I used the free version of Real VNC. I had my friend install the server on her computer. I start the Listening VNC Viewer. When my friend wants my help she right clicks on the VNC icon on the task bar by the clock. She then enters my static IP address and connects to my viewer. I have been using this method for over a year and I have had no problems. I see her full screen and what she is doing with mouse and keyboard. I have the ability to move the mouse on her screen and use my keyboard as if I was sitting in front of her machine. My friend is over 2,000 miles from me. I have also found that Skype works well for vocal communication while working on her machine. I hope this has given you the answer you are looking for. Sincerely, Doyal McVicker dmcvicker@consolidated.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Fuchs" To: Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 12:54 PM Subject: Non Technical User Needs Help >A friend of mine is a complete novice with computers. She runs Windows XP >Home > and has a broadband connection. Her ISP assigns her a (possibly) different > IP > address every time she connects. > > I run XP Pro/SP2, have a broadband connection and my ISP has assigned me a > *fixed* IP address (yes, really). I'm comfortable installing and > configuring > software. > > Can she and I each run some VNC-based software so that when we are both > running it we can do the following: > > 1. I can see her desktop > 2. I can see her mouse movements, selections and what happens when she > clicks > on something - left, right, double click > 3. I can take control of her mouse in such a way that she can see what I > do > 4. I can enter data from my keyboard into her computer > > I'm happy to run a server of some sort so that she connects to me or I'm > happy > to ask her to run a server. Asking her what her current IP address is > might be > a bit beyond her (sorry, that's not intended to be condescending). > > Is there some flavour of VNC which will do this? It needs to be *very* > simple > for her to install. > > Would I be better off using Windows Remote Assistance? Something else? > > Harold Fuchs > London, England > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From barry@cs.sierracollege.edu Tue Aug 22 08:34:00 2006 From: barry@cs.sierracollege.edu (Barry Brown) Date: Tue Aug 22 07:34:00 2006 Subject: Feature request: choose which monitor to serve In-Reply-To: <030f01c6c519$ae74c3e0$06000100@sturton.local> References: <030f01c6c519$ae74c3e0$06000100@sturton.local> Message-ID: Thanks! That worked. I had to use DISPLAY2 on my computer. The displays seemed to be numbered 1 and 2, not 0 and 1. -B On Aug 21, 2006, at 5:02 AM, James Weatherall wrote: > Barry, > > VNC Server supports remoting of individual monitors' contents via the > command-line/registry option DisplayDevice, which should be set to > something > like: > > \\.\DISPLAY0 for the primary display > \\.\DISPLAY1 for the second display > > And so on. > > Regards, > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com >> [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Barry Brown >> Sent: 21 August 2006 07:54 >> To: vnc-list@realvnc.com >> Subject: Feature request: choose which monitor to serve >> >> I'm happy that WinVNC includes extended-desktop support. But >> would it >> be possible to specify in the server which monitor to serve, rather >> than serving the entire extended desktop? >> >> When I do presentations, I hook up my laptop to a projector. I then >> extend the desktop across both monitors. The presentation software >> puts slightly different things on each display. >> >> * The primary (laptop) display shows not only the slide I'm >> projecting, but also a "filmstrip" of the available slides and some >> controls. This way I can jump around the presentation easily. >> >> * The external display, however, just shows the current slide. There >> are no window borders, scroll bars, or anything. >> >> My idea is this: use VNC to mirror the external display on other >> computers. This would allow me to run the presentation "untethered." >> That is, I'd be free to roam around the room, using VNC over >> the wifi >> connection to remotely display the presentation on another computer >> which, in turn, would be connected to the projector. >> >> I have a couple of ideas of how this could work on the server side. >> >> In the VNC Server options, the user would be able to specify whether >> they wanted to server the entire extended desktop (as is done in the >> latest versions of the server), or pick which monitor to >> serve. Being >> able to select only one monitor would cut down on the number >> of updates. >> >> Perhaps the various options could be mapped to TCP ports. Say, 5900 >> for the whole extended desktop, 5901 for monitor 1, 5902 for monitor >> 2, etc. >> >> Taking this idea a step further, it might be handy to be able to >> serve an arbitrary portion of the overall desktop. Let's say I only >> want clients to be able to see one particular part of my screen. The >> VNC Server options could display a small representation of my >> desktop >> and I'd drag a marquee to specify which portion to serve. >> >> Is any of this feasible? >> >> Barry >> _______________________________________________ >> VNC-List mailing list >> VNC-List@realvnc.com >> To remove yourself from the list visit: >> http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From jnw@realvnc.com Tue Aug 22 10:58:01 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Tue Aug 22 09:58:01 2006 Subject: Feature request: choose which monitor to serve In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <037101c6c5c8$f8c9e5b0$06000100@sturton.local> Hi Barry, Yes, you're right - display numbers start from one, not zero. Happy VNC-ing! Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: Barry Brown [mailto:barry@cs.sierracollege.edu] > Sent: 22 August 2006 07:34 > To: James Weatherall > Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Re: Feature request: choose which monitor to serve > > Thanks! That worked. I had to use DISPLAY2 on my computer. The > displays seemed to be numbered 1 and 2, not 0 and 1. > > -B > > On Aug 21, 2006, at 5:02 AM, James Weatherall wrote: > > > Barry, > > > > VNC Server supports remoting of individual monitors' > contents via the > > command-line/registry option DisplayDevice, which should be set to > > something > > like: > > > > \\.\DISPLAY0 for the primary display > > \\.\DISPLAY1 for the second display > > > > And so on. > > > > Regards, > > > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > >> [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Barry Brown > >> Sent: 21 August 2006 07:54 > >> To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > >> Subject: Feature request: choose which monitor to serve > >> > >> I'm happy that WinVNC includes extended-desktop support. But > >> would it > >> be possible to specify in the server which monitor to serve, rather > >> than serving the entire extended desktop? > >> > >> When I do presentations, I hook up my laptop to a projector. I then > >> extend the desktop across both monitors. The presentation software > >> puts slightly different things on each display. > >> > >> * The primary (laptop) display shows not only the slide I'm > >> projecting, but also a "filmstrip" of the available slides and some > >> controls. This way I can jump around the presentation easily. > >> > >> * The external display, however, just shows the current > slide. There > >> are no window borders, scroll bars, or anything. > >> > >> My idea is this: use VNC to mirror the external display on other > >> computers. This would allow me to run the presentation > "untethered." > >> That is, I'd be free to roam around the room, using VNC over > >> the wifi > >> connection to remotely display the presentation on another computer > >> which, in turn, would be connected to the projector. > >> > >> I have a couple of ideas of how this could work on the server side. > >> > >> In the VNC Server options, the user would be able to > specify whether > >> they wanted to server the entire extended desktop (as is > done in the > >> latest versions of the server), or pick which monitor to > >> serve. Being > >> able to select only one monitor would cut down on the number > >> of updates. > >> > >> Perhaps the various options could be mapped to TCP ports. Say, 5900 > >> for the whole extended desktop, 5901 for monitor 1, 5902 > for monitor > >> 2, etc. > >> > >> Taking this idea a step further, it might be handy to be able to > >> serve an arbitrary portion of the overall desktop. Let's say I only > >> want clients to be able to see one particular part of my > screen. The > >> VNC Server options could display a small representation of my > >> desktop > >> and I'd drag a marquee to specify which portion to serve. > >> > >> Is any of this feasible? > >> > >> Barry > >> _______________________________________________ > >> VNC-List mailing list > >> VNC-List@realvnc.com > >> To remove yourself from the list visit: > >> http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From edranem@dranem.org Tue Aug 22 11:31:00 2006 From: edranem@dranem.org (evets dranem) Date: Tue Aug 22 10:31:00 2006 Subject: Newbie needs help, missing vnchooks.dll In-Reply-To: <000f01c6c304$3d859d10$041e050a@reference> References: <000f01c6c304$3d859d10$041e050a@reference> Message-ID: <44EACEC1.7010106@dranem.org> Erica Cathers wrote: >We've been having an error message pop up when the computer boots up, about >WinVNC.exe not being able to locate a dll, specifically VNCHooks.dll. > >It looks like we have both WinVNC v.3.3.3 and RealVNC free edition 4.1.1 >installed. The RealVNC 4.1.1 is the one that starts on its own at boot up, >and looks like the newer software. > >Is there any reason to have both? Is the "missing dll" message coming from >the old version, which maybe could just be uninstalled? > >FYI--The computer is running Windows 2000. > >EC >_______________________________________________ >VNC-List mailing list >VNC-List@realvnc.com >To remove yourself from the list visit: >http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list > > > I just troubleshooted a situation where the antivirus software was set to find malware as well as viruses It would not allow the proper installation of VNC while AV was protecting the PC It also had to be entered into an allowed software list for: the AV software the Operating system firewall the third party firewall the port forward router evets<->steve dranem<->menard From edranem@dranem.org Tue Aug 22 11:40:00 2006 From: edranem@dranem.org (evets dranem) Date: Tue Aug 22 10:40:00 2006 Subject: Problems during install on WindowsXp (MoveFile failed; code 5) In-Reply-To: <000101c6c496$80325ac0$0100a8c0@max47> References: <000101c6c496$80325ac0$0100a8c0@max47> Message-ID: <44EAD0A9.4070903@dranem.org> Matthias Lach wrote: >Hello, > >I try to install vnc-4_1_2-x86_win32.exe (739240 byte) und 2 Windows Xp PCs. >On one i had no problmes and there i like the server to run as service.( >Server seems running ). >And the other pc, my work-pc, returns a error message: >(http://www.lach.de/pics/vnc4error.jpg) > >C:\programme\realvnc\vnc4\vnccongig.exe >An error occured while trying to rename a file in the destination directory: >MoveFile failed; code 5 >Zugriff verweigert >Click retry.... > >Iam user with Admin rights. I disabled firewall during the install. > >I searched for this, but cant find any hint. > >May anyone of you maybe help me? >Thank You. >-- >Mit freundlichen Gr|_en > >Matthias Lach, Gummersbach >_______________________________________________ >VNC-List mailing list >VNC-List@realvnc.com >To remove yourself from the list visit: >http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list > > > That is the error I had until I disabled the Antivirus Software While I installed the software I had to disable the AV Kaspersky was stopping the proper installation evets<->steve dranem<->menard From edranem@dranem.org Tue Aug 22 11:49:01 2006 From: edranem@dranem.org (evets dranem) Date: Tue Aug 22 10:49:01 2006 Subject: Non Technical User Needs Help In-Reply-To: <00a501c6c54a$eafcb6c0$6801b150@angua> References: <00a501c6c54a$eafcb6c0$6801b150@angua> Message-ID: <44EAD2F3.5050804@dranem.org> Harold Fuchs wrote: >A friend of mine is a complete novice with computers. She runs Windows XP Home >and has a broadband connection. Her ISP assigns her a (possibly) different IP >address every time she connects. > >I run XP Pro/SP2, have a broadband connection and my ISP has assigned me a >*fixed* IP address (yes, really). I'm comfortable installing and configuring >software. > >Can she and I each run some VNC-based software so that when we are both >running it we can do the following: > >1. I can see her desktop >2. I can see her mouse movements, selections and what happens when she clicks >on something - left, right, double click >3. I can take control of her mouse in such a way that she can see what I do >4. I can enter data from my keyboard into her computer > >I'm happy to run a server of some sort so that she connects to me or I'm happy >to ask her to run a server. Asking her what her current IP address is might be >a bit beyond her (sorry, that's not intended to be condescending). > >Is there some flavour of VNC which will do this? It needs to be *very* simple >for her to install. > >Would I be better off using Windows Remote Assistance? Something else? > >Harold Fuchs >London, England >_______________________________________________ >VNC-List mailing list >VNC-List@realvnc.com >To remove yourself from the list visit: >http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list > > > I think it is as easy as: start your VNCListeningViewer port forward your port 5500 to your pc [if behind router] adjust [open] your software firewall to allow port 5500 get her to right click her vnc icon and ADDCLIENT and put your IP address in the dialog and bingo From m.bonet@gmx.de Tue Aug 22 13:18:00 2006 From: m.bonet@gmx.de (Markus Bonet) Date: Tue Aug 22 12:18:00 2006 Subject: vncconfig won't start Message-ID: <1156245452.9477.6.camel@homeserver> Hi, I am running vnc-server on FC5 (x64). But vncconfig won't come up, it gives the following error. vncconfig X Error of failed request: BadLength (poly request too large or internal Xlib length error) Major opcode of failed request: 134 (VNC-EXTENSION) Minor opcode of failed request: 1 () Serial number of failed request: 65 Current serial number in output stream: 65 It started fine on FC4 (x64 too). I browsed through this list and found the following mail, but this didn't help getting vncconfig starting again. Any hint on what might be wrong? Here's the mail: vncserver 4.1.1 | Fedora 5 | X11 fonts Evan Cooch cooch17 "at" verizon.net Mon Jul 31 16:11:02 2006 * Previous message: vncserver 4.1.1 | Fedora 5 | X11 fonts * Next message: multiple users * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] ________________________________________________________________________ James Weatherall wrote: > Evan, > > You just need to start your VNC Server with the appropriate default font > path configured, to match the one used by your console X server, which is > probably "unix/:7100" or similar under Fedora Core 5. > > Regards, > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > > Yes, I stumbled on that in the end myself. Basically, to make everything play nice 1. in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, make sure you have something like Section "Files" # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) # By default, a font server independent of the X server is # used to render fonts. FontPath "unix/:7100" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/Type1" EndSection 2. in /usr/bin/vncserver, probably should also add $cmd .= " -fp /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi/"; in the appropriate place. From charlesl@neilsquire.ca Tue Aug 22 16:33:00 2006 From: charlesl@neilsquire.ca (Charles Levasseur) Date: Tue Aug 22 15:33:00 2006 Subject: Real VNC Java Viewer Message-ID: Hello How can I stop the real VNC Java Viewer from opening in a new window? I am using 4.1 Thanks -- NEIL SQUIRE SOCIETY - http://www.neilsquire.ca We use technology, knowledge and passion to empower Canadians with physical disabilities. 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From akira@p08.itscom.net Tue Aug 22 16:56:00 2006 From: akira@p08.itscom.net (akira@p08.itscom.net) Date: Tue Aug 22 15:56:00 2006 Subject: can't see the remote desktop In-Reply-To: <20060821070442.23816.qmail@web55510.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <20060821070442.23816.qmail@web55510.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060822151510.GD3301@home> Greetings. On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 12:04:42AM -0700, rama krishna wrote: ] I have downloaded and installed in my system VNC for ] linux.I followed the procedure described in the readme ] file. After installing i ran the server and it started ] without any problem. ] But if i connect to the server using vncviewer ] from another system i could only see a terminal of ] the server opening in the client.I am unable to see ] the server desktop as it is in the client. On old FAQ. See http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/DTG/attarchive/vnc/faq.html#q21 -- Akira Hatakeyama E-Mail: akira@p08.itscom.net From john@chattanooga.net Tue Aug 22 19:45:00 2006 From: john@chattanooga.net (John Aldrich) Date: Tue Aug 22 18:45:00 2006 Subject: How do you save/remember passwords in Real VNC so that you don't have to type one in each time you connect? In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20060821111119.01efdc38@pop.gmx.net> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20060821111119.01efdc38@pop.gmx.net> Message-ID: <200608221344.16162.john@chattanooga.net> On Sunday 20 August 2006 09:17 pm, VP wrote: > Hi, > How do you save/remember passwords in Real VNC so that you don't have > to type one in each time you connect? > O/S: WinXP Pro > I read this Thread: > http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2006-April/054758.html > which says: > "The easiest way to handle this is to save a "shortcut" to > the VNC > connection. It will prompt if you wish to save the password with the > shortcut. You should say "yes."" > > ... but how how do you "save a shortcut to the VNC connection" so that > it remembers the password for that particular connection/address? > Thanks for your assistance. > Right-click on the active window and select "properties" and then there will be an option to save a shortcut, IIRC. I'm runnig linux right now, so I can't say for sure. From vjeethendriya@yahoo.com Wed Aug 23 08:30:01 2006 From: vjeethendriya@yahoo.com (vangara jeethendriya) Date: Wed Aug 23 07:30:01 2006 Subject: License Query Message-ID: <20060823062913.98216.qmail@web32103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Every one, I Have installed VNC (4.2.6)long back, it is working fine. But I have one query ragarding the licence. Right now I am using trail license. I checked in relvnc.com for Enterprise edition(4.2.6) for 20 connections it asking $630. Is it necessary to purchase license. I think it is open source. Why I have to purchase the license. Can I able use it after trail period. Please give me reply on this. Thanks in Advance. -Jeethendriya --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. From Stefan.vanAalst@zonnet.nl Wed Aug 23 10:56:00 2006 From: Stefan.vanAalst@zonnet.nl (Stefan van Aalst) Date: Wed Aug 23 09:56:00 2006 Subject: Slow reaction of RealVNC via client Message-ID: <004e01c6c691$efdcf270$c801a8c0@STALLA2> I installed Norton Internet Security 2006 and use FreeSSHd and RealVNC to enable port 443. With Putty I can easily connect, initial screen updating is much slower than before (over port 5800, ZoneAlarm instead of Norton and no FreeSSHd). Screen updating is good (I see for instance some download speeds on the server change frequently). The mouse reaction is very very slow when in the Client I click on applications or buttons or do other things. Any ideas or suggestions? Stefan From jnw@realvnc.com Wed Aug 23 13:27:01 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Wed Aug 23 12:27:01 2006 Subject: License Query In-Reply-To: <20060823062913.98216.qmail@web32103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000101c6c6a5$46e7d5e0$6600a8c0@sturton.local> Jeethendriya, You are currently using VNC Enterprise Edition, for which you must purchase licenses if you wish to continue to use it. VNC Enterprise Edition is not open-source. If you do not wish to purchase VNC Enterprise Edition licenses, you can instead down-grade to VNC Free Edition. VNC Free Edition is released under the GNU Public License. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of vangara jeethendriya > Sent: 23 August 2006 07:29 > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: License Query > > Hi Every one, > > I Have installed VNC (4.2.6)long back, it is working fine. > But I have one query ragarding the licence. Right now I am > using trail license. I checked in relvnc.com for Enterprise > edition(4.2.6) for 20 connections it asking $630. > > Is it necessary to purchase license. I think it is open > source. Why I have to purchase the license. Can I able use it > after trail period. > > Please give me reply on this. > > Thanks in Advance. > > > -Jeethendriya > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low > PC-to-Phone call rates. > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From jnw@realvnc.com Wed Aug 23 13:35:00 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Wed Aug 23 12:35:00 2006 Subject: License Query In-Reply-To: <20060823062913.98216.qmail@web32103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000301c6c6a5$e7733b30$6600a8c0@sturton.local> Jeethendriya, You are currently using VNC Enterprise Edition, for which you must purchase licenses if you wish to continue to use it. VNC Enterprise Edition is not open-source. If you do not wish to purchase VNC Enterprise Edition licenses, you can instead down-grade to VNC Free Edition. VNC Free Edition is released under the GNU Public License. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of vangara jeethendriya > Sent: 23 August 2006 07:29 > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: License Query > > Hi Every one, > > I Have installed VNC (4.2.6)long back, it is working fine. > But I have one query ragarding the licence. Right now I am > using trail license. I checked in relvnc.com for Enterprise > edition(4.2.6) for 20 connections it asking $630. > > Is it necessary to purchase license. I think it is open > source. Why I have to purchase the license. Can I able use it > after trail period. > > Please give me reply on this. > > Thanks in Advance. > > > -Jeethendriya > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low > PC-to-Phone call rates. > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From jnw@realvnc.com Wed Aug 23 13:35:28 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Wed Aug 23 12:35:28 2006 Subject: License Query In-Reply-To: <20060823062913.98216.qmail@web32103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003f01c6c6a7$2e5665d0$6600a8c0@sturton.local> Jeethendriya, You are currently using VNC Enterprise Edition, for which you must purchase licenses if you wish to continue to use it. VNC Enterprise Edition is not open-source. If you do not wish to purchase VNC Enterprise Edition licenses, you can instead down-grade to VNC Free Edition. VNC Free Edition is released under the GNU Public License. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of vangara jeethendriya > Sent: 23 August 2006 07:29 > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: License Query > > Hi Every one, > > I Have installed VNC (4.2.6)long back, it is working fine. > But I have one query ragarding the licence. Right now I am > using trail license. I checked in relvnc.com for Enterprise > edition(4.2.6) for 20 connections it asking $630. > > Is it necessary to purchase license. I think it is open > source. Why I have to purchase the license. Can I able use it > after trail period. > > Please give me reply on this. > > Thanks in Advance. > > > -Jeethendriya > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low > PC-to-Phone call rates. > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From jnw@realvnc.com Wed Aug 23 13:35:51 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Wed Aug 23 12:35:51 2006 Subject: License Query In-Reply-To: <20060823062913.98216.qmail@web32103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000201c6c6a5$97844790$6600a8c0@sturton.local> Jeethendriya, You are currently using VNC Enterprise Edition, for which you must purchase licenses if you wish to continue to use it. VNC Enterprise Edition is not open-source. If you do not wish to purchase VNC Enterprise Edition licenses, you can instead down-grade to VNC Free Edition. VNC Free Edition is released under the GNU Public License. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of vangara jeethendriya > Sent: 23 August 2006 07:29 > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: License Query > > Hi Every one, > > I Have installed VNC (4.2.6)long back, it is working fine. > But I have one query ragarding the licence. Right now I am > using trail license. I checked in relvnc.com for Enterprise > edition(4.2.6) for 20 connections it asking $630. > > Is it necessary to purchase license. I think it is open > source. Why I have to purchase the license. Can I able use it > after trail period. > > Please give me reply on this. > > Thanks in Advance. > > > -Jeethendriya > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low > PC-to-Phone call rates. > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From jnw@realvnc.com Wed Aug 23 13:36:17 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Wed Aug 23 12:36:17 2006 Subject: License Query In-Reply-To: <20060823062913.98216.qmail@web32103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000401c6c6a6$3730be90$6600a8c0@sturton.local> Jeethendriya, You are currently using VNC Enterprise Edition, for which you must purchase licenses if you wish to continue to use it. VNC Enterprise Edition is not open-source. If you do not wish to purchase VNC Enterprise Edition licenses, you can instead down-grade to VNC Free Edition. VNC Free Edition is released under the GNU Public License. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of vangara jeethendriya > Sent: 23 August 2006 07:29 > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: License Query > > Hi Every one, > > I Have installed VNC (4.2.6)long back, it is working fine. > But I have one query ragarding the licence. Right now I am > using trail license. I checked in relvnc.com for Enterprise > edition(4.2.6) for 20 connections it asking $630. > > Is it necessary to purchase license. I think it is open > source. Why I have to purchase the license. Can I able use it > after trail period. > > Please give me reply on this. > > Thanks in Advance. > > > -Jeethendriya > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low > PC-to-Phone call rates. > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From jnw@realvnc.com Wed Aug 23 13:36:42 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Wed Aug 23 12:36:42 2006 Subject: License Query In-Reply-To: <20060823062913.98216.qmail@web32103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001c6c6a5$01b8ce70$6600a8c0@sturton.local> Jeethendriya, You are currently using VNC Enterprise Edition, for which you must purchase licenses if you wish to continue to use it. VNC Enterprise Edition is not open-source. If you do not wish to purchase VNC Enterprise Edition licenses, you can instead down-grade to VNC Free Edition. VNC Free Edition is released under the GNU Public License. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of vangara jeethendriya > Sent: 23 August 2006 07:29 > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: License Query > > Hi Every one, > > I Have installed VNC (4.2.6)long back, it is working fine. > But I have one query ragarding the licence. Right now I am > using trail license. I checked in relvnc.com for Enterprise > edition(4.2.6) for 20 connections it asking $630. > > Is it necessary to purchase license. I think it is open > source. Why I have to purchase the license. Can I able use it > after trail period. > > Please give me reply on this. > > Thanks in Advance. > > > -Jeethendriya > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low > PC-to-Phone call rates. > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From wlc@wlc.net Wed Aug 23 18:05:02 2006 From: wlc@wlc.net (Bill Chubb) Date: Wed Aug 23 17:05:02 2006 Subject: How do you save/remember passwords in Real VNC so that you don't have to type one in each time you connect? In-Reply-To: <200608221344.16162.john@chattanooga.net> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20060821111119.01efdc38@pop.gmx.net> <200608221344.16162.john@chattanooga.net> Message-ID: <003501c6c6cd$c7103000$55309000$@net> To endorse what John has said... Connect to the remote computer with IP address and password. Once connected, press function key F8 and click "Options" Click "Load / Save" Click "Save As" Choose a name which suits you and click "Save" At the VNC Viewer : Warning about storing the password, click "Yes". This will put a shortcut on your desktop. Kind regards Bill -----Original Message----- From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of John Aldrich Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 6:44 PM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: How do you save/remember passwords in Real VNC so that you don't have to type one in each time you connect? On Sunday 20 August 2006 09:17 pm, VP wrote: > Hi, > How do you save/remember passwords in Real VNC so that you don't have > to type one in each time you connect? > O/S: WinXP Pro > I read this Thread: > http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2006-April/054758.html > which says: > "The easiest way to handle this is to save a "shortcut" to the VNC > connection. It will prompt if you wish to save the password with the > shortcut. You should say "yes."" > > ... but how how do you "save a shortcut to the VNC connection" so that > it remembers the password for that particular connection/address? > Thanks for your assistance. > Right-click on the active window and select "properties" and then there will be an option to save a shortcut, IIRC. I'm runnig linux right now, so I can't say for sure. From Steveb@tshore.com Wed Aug 23 19:02:02 2006 From: Steveb@tshore.com (Steveb@tshore.com) Date: Wed Aug 23 18:02:02 2006 Subject: License Query Message-ID: <3F194DDE9CB3B64C9902A013994D7F8E01190E84@exchange2k.tshore.com> There are other free versions of VNC available that are still open source and have many of the features found in RealVNC 4.0 Enterprise. The best ones are UltraVNC and TightVNC. UltraVNC has more Windows features while TightVNC has a nice mix of features and platform independence. UltraVNC is my favorite. Thank you, Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com Bozteck VNCScan Enterprise Manager -----Original Message----- From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of James Weatherall Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 7:19 AM To: 'vangara jeethendriya'; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: License Query Jeethendriya, You are currently using VNC Enterprise Edition, for which you must purchase licenses if you wish to continue to use it. VNC Enterprise Edition is not open-source. If you do not wish to purchase VNC Enterprise Edition licenses, you can instead down-grade to VNC Free Edition. VNC Free Edition is released under the GNU Public License. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of vangara jeethendriya > Sent: 23 August 2006 07:29 > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: License Query > > Hi Every one, > > I Have installed VNC (4.2.6)long back, it is working fine. > But I have one query ragarding the licence. Right now I am using > trail license. I checked in relvnc.com for Enterprise > edition(4.2.6) for 20 connections it asking $630. > > Is it necessary to purchase license. I think it is open source. Why I > have to purchase the license. Can I able use it after trail period. > > Please give me reply on this. > > Thanks in Advance. > > > -Jeethendriya > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call > rates. > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list _______________________________________________ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From scott@smithdomain.com Wed Aug 23 19:15:01 2006 From: scott@smithdomain.com (B. Scott Smith) Date: Wed Aug 23 18:15:01 2006 Subject: MSN In-Reply-To: <00db01c6c6d6$71ce8a20$6801b150@angua> References: <44EC7348.6000804@smithdomain.com> <00db01c6c6d6$71ce8a20$6801b150@angua> Message-ID: <44EC8D03.5030501@smithdomain.com> No problem. I'm CCing the list for prosperity. Harold Fuchs wrote: > Scott, > > Further research shows I don't need an MSN account at all. I can use Remote Assistance provided (a) both systems run some flavour of XP and (b) both have an appropriate e-mail program configured. My friend and I both have XP and we both use Outlook Express. The requestor's RA software sends an e-mail with an attachment. The helper opens the attachment and everything starts happening. I assume that from the time I (the helper) open the attachment it's the same as if we'd used MSN. Weird that I have to pay for MSN and you don't; probably something about colonies and revenge ;-) > > I tested this with my laptop connected via a 28.8 kbps modem and my floortop connected via ADSL (2.5 mbps today). Seems to work fine. > > I hate to say this but it seems faster than when I connect my laptop back-to-back with my floortop over a CAT 5 Ethernet cable and run VNC free edition. > > I've just produced a crib sheet for my very unsavvy friend - she knows a lot about English porcelain (makes a good living at it) but nothing at all about computers - and will be trying it out with her over the next few days. > > Thank you for your persistence. > > Regards, Harold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "B. Scott Smith" > To: "Harold Fuchs" > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 4:24 PM > Subject: MSN > > > >> Hi Harold, >> >> I just called up a friend and told him to log on to MSN. We both have >> free accounts. >> We are also both behind firewalls. >> Using MSN Messenger, we were able to take turns viewing, and then >> controlling each other's desktops. >> We didn't have to pay anything, and it was incredibly easy. >> >> He just right clicked on my contact name, and chose "Request Remote >> Assistance". I then got the request, and accepted it, then after a >> minute of chugging, I was seeing his desktop. Then I clicked on the >> "Take Control" button, and I was running the show. It also had built-in >> file transfer, and voice chat. >> >> One note: my friend and I both have XP Pro. Not sure if it would have >> been different if he had XP Home Edition. >> >> Well, good luck. You should really give this a try, it's very simple and >> full-featured. From jackie-huggins@lpso.net Wed Aug 23 22:16:02 2006 From: jackie-huggins@lpso.net (Huggins, Jackie) Date: Wed Aug 23 21:16:02 2006 Subject: Your connection has been rejected Message-ID: <64FE8A61FCDE554A87AB89F62D3257A801772A@lpso-mail.SHERIFF.net> Is anyone having problems with connecting to vnc clients. I can connect and disconnect then minutes later when I try to connect again I get, "Your connection has been rejected". What is cause this? Does anyone know? I tried everything to fix the connection but nothing work. I not going thru a firewall. From jnw@realvnc.com Thu Aug 24 13:09:00 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Thu Aug 24 12:09:00 2006 Subject: Your connection has been rejected In-Reply-To: <64FE8A61FCDE554A87AB89F62D3257A801772A@lpso-mail.SHERIFF.net> Message-ID: <004401c6c76d$0b7c5c60$6600a8c0@sturton.local> Jackie, This means that your server is configured to require the local user to agree to accept incoming connections, and that they're not doing. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Huggins, Jackie > Sent: 23 August 2006 21:18 > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: RE: Your connection has been rejected > > Is anyone having problems with connecting to vnc clients. I > can connect > and disconnect then minutes later when I try to connect again I get, > "Your connection has been rejected". What is cause this? Does anyone > know? I tried everything to fix the connection but nothing work. I not > going thru a firewall. > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From vihanpandey@gmail.com Thu Aug 24 14:24:00 2006 From: vihanpandey@gmail.com (Vihan Pandey) Date: Thu Aug 24 13:24:00 2006 Subject: Max OS X Message-ID: <9832c98e0608240523x5622886dhc1f4d72734201aa4@mail.gmail.com> Hello, i'm using the new vnc 4.1 on Ubuntu 6.06 # uname -ar Linux ubuntu 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Fri Jul 7 19:27:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux On my network i have an Xserve G5 with Mac OS X server 10.4. It is running a VNC server. On doing : # nmap 192.168.0.50 . . . 5900/tcp open vnc . . . Also, if i connect through Apple Remote Desktop i can do so with ease, provided i have the "matching" version. Now when i try : # vncviewer VNC Viewer Free Edition 4.1.2 for X - built May 12 2006 17:42:13 Copyright (C) 2002-2005 RealVNC Ltd. See http://www.realvnc.com for information on VNC. << i get the window to connect, i give the I.P address of the Xserve and click O.K >> Thu Aug 24 17:18:06 2006 CConn: connected to host 192.168.0.50 port 5900 CConnection: Server supports RFB protocol version 3.889 CConnection: Using RFB protocol version 3.8 CConnection: No matching security types Aborted O.K so i need RFB protocol version 3.889 where and in what package would i get that ? If anyone wants any more details, please le me know. Regards, - vihan From jnw@realvnc.com Thu Aug 24 15:35:01 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Thu Aug 24 14:35:01 2006 Subject: Max OS X In-Reply-To: <9832c98e0608240523x5622886dhc1f4d72734201aa4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <005901c6c782$0a896450$6600a8c0@sturton.local> Vihan, There is not, nor has there ever been, an RFB version 3.889. Valid protocol version numbers are 3.3, 3.7, 3.8 and 4.0. This appears to be a bug in Apple Remote Desktop. You should be able to contact Apple for support for their product. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Vihan Pandey > Sent: 24 August 2006 13:24 > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Max OS X > > Hello, > i'm using the new vnc 4.1 on Ubuntu 6.06 > > # uname -ar > Linux ubuntu 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Fri Jul 7 19:27:00 UTC 2006 i686 > GNU/Linux > > On my network i have an Xserve G5 with Mac OS X server 10.4. > It is running a > VNC server. On doing : > > # nmap 192.168.0.50 > . > . > . > 5900/tcp open vnc > . > . > . > > Also, if i connect through Apple Remote Desktop i can do so with ease, > provided i have the "matching" version. > > Now when i try : > > # vncviewer > > VNC Viewer Free Edition 4.1.2 for X - built May 12 2006 17:42:13 > Copyright (C) 2002-2005 RealVNC Ltd. > See http://www.realvnc.com for information on VNC. > > << i get the window to connect, i give the I.P address of the > Xserve and > click O.K >> > > > Thu Aug 24 17:18:06 2006 > CConn: connected to host 192.168.0.50 port 5900 > CConnection: Server supports RFB protocol version 3.889 > CConnection: Using RFB protocol version 3.8 > CConnection: No matching security types > Aborted > > O.K so i need RFB protocol version 3.889 where and in what > package would i > get that ? > > If anyone wants any more details, please le me know. > > Regards, > > - vihan > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From jerry@westrick.com Thu Aug 24 16:19:01 2006 From: jerry@westrick.com (Jerry Westrick) Date: Thu Aug 24 15:19:01 2006 Subject: Max OS X In-Reply-To: <005901c6c782$0a896450$6600a8c0@sturton.local> References: <005901c6c782$0a896450$6600a8c0@sturton.local> Message-ID: <200608241519.02421.jerry@westrick.com> Use Chicken of VNC? Jerry On Thursday 24 August 2006 15:34, James Weatherall wrote: > Vihan, > > There is not, nor has there ever been, an RFB version 3.889. Valid > protocol version numbers are 3.3, 3.7, 3.8 and 4.0. > > This appears to be a bug in Apple Remote Desktop. You should be able to > contact Apple for support for their product. > > Regards, > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Vihan Pandey > > Sent: 24 August 2006 13:24 > > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > > Subject: Max OS X > > > > Hello, > > i'm using the new vnc 4.1 on Ubuntu 6.06 > > > > # uname -ar > > Linux ubuntu 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Fri Jul 7 19:27:00 UTC 2006 i686 > > GNU/Linux > > > > On my network i have an Xserve G5 with Mac OS X server 10.4. > > It is running a > > VNC server. On doing : > > > > # nmap 192.168.0.50 > > . > > . > > . > > 5900/tcp open vnc > > . > > . > > . > > > > Also, if i connect through Apple Remote Desktop i can do so with ease, > > provided i have the "matching" version. > > > > Now when i try : > > > > # vncviewer > > > > VNC Viewer Free Edition 4.1.2 for X - built May 12 2006 17:42:13 > > Copyright (C) 2002-2005 RealVNC Ltd. > > See http://www.realvnc.com for information on VNC. > > > > << i get the window to connect, i give the I.P address of the > > Xserve and > > click O.K >> > > > > > > Thu Aug 24 17:18:06 2006 > > CConn: connected to host 192.168.0.50 port 5900 > > CConnection: Server supports RFB protocol version 3.889 > > CConnection: Using RFB protocol version 3.8 > > CConnection: No matching security types > > Aborted > > > > O.K so i need RFB protocol version 3.889 where and in what > > package would i > > get that ? > > > > If anyone wants any more details, please le me know. > > > > Regards, > > > > - vihan > > _______________________________________________ > > VNC-List mailing list > > VNC-List@realvnc.com > > To remove yourself from the list visit: > > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list > > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From jnw@realvnc.com Thu Aug 24 17:20:01 2006 From: jnw@realvnc.com (James Weatherall) Date: Thu Aug 24 16:20:01 2006 Subject: Max OS X In-Reply-To: <200608241519.02421.jerry@westrick.com> Message-ID: <005c01c6c790$ba5616e0$6600a8c0@sturton.local> Jerry, "Chicken of the VNC" is a VNC _viewer_ for Mac OS X, not a server. There is a beta-release of VNC Server for Mac OS X available at: http://www.realvnc.com/products/beta Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Westrick > Sent: 24 August 2006 14:19 > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Re: Max OS X > > Use Chicken of VNC? > > Jerry > > > On Thursday 24 August 2006 15:34, James Weatherall wrote: > > Vihan, > > > > There is not, nor has there ever been, an RFB version 3.889. Valid > > protocol version numbers are 3.3, 3.7, 3.8 and 4.0. > > > > This appears to be a bug in Apple Remote Desktop. You > should be able to > > contact Apple for support for their product. > > > > Regards, > > > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com > > > [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Vihan Pandey > > > Sent: 24 August 2006 13:24 > > > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > > > Subject: Max OS X > > > > > > Hello, > > > i'm using the new vnc 4.1 on Ubuntu 6.06 > > > > > > # uname -ar > > > Linux ubuntu 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Fri Jul 7 19:27:00 > UTC 2006 i686 > > > GNU/Linux > > > > > > On my network i have an Xserve G5 with Mac OS X server 10.4. > > > It is running a > > > VNC server. On doing : > > > > > > # nmap 192.168.0.50 > > > . > > > . > > > . > > > 5900/tcp open vnc > > > . > > > . > > > . > > > > > > Also, if i connect through Apple Remote Desktop i can do > so with ease, > > > provided i have the "matching" version. > > > > > > Now when i try : > > > > > > # vncviewer > > > > > > VNC Viewer Free Edition 4.1.2 for X - built May 12 2006 17:42:13 > > > Copyright (C) 2002-2005 RealVNC Ltd. > > > See http://www.realvnc.com for information on VNC. > > > > > > << i get the window to connect, i give the I.P address of the > > > Xserve and > > > click O.K >> > > > > > > > > > Thu Aug 24 17:18:06 2006 > > > CConn: connected to host 192.168.0.50 port 5900 > > > CConnection: Server supports RFB protocol version 3.889 > > > CConnection: Using RFB protocol version 3.8 > > > CConnection: No matching security types > > > Aborted > > > > > > O.K so i need RFB protocol version 3.889 where and in what > > > package would i > > > get that ? > > > > > > If anyone wants any more details, please le me know. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > - vihan > > > _______________________________________________ > > > VNC-List mailing list > > > VNC-List@realvnc.com > > > To remove yourself from the list visit: > > > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > > VNC-List mailing list > > VNC-List@realvnc.com > > To remove yourself from the list visit: > > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From pzaloum@videotron.ca Thu Aug 24 21:26:02 2006 From: pzaloum@videotron.ca (Patrick Zaloum) Date: Thu Aug 24 20:26:02 2006 Subject: internal authentication failure Message-ID: <200608241925.k7OJPbd18437@server.canody> Hey everyone, I am using VNC 4.1.6 on a domain. I have it set up with single sign on on all the machines, using NT authentication. It works great for all the computers. Recently one of these machines has stopped accepting my connections: Single sign on fails and it prompts me for a username and password. I enter my info (I have domain admin rights with this account) and it returns with a message "An internal authentication failure occurred. Do you wish to attempt to reconnect to xxxx" I have tried reinstalling . uninstalling and reinstalling. manually defining my user to be authorized to VNC (as opposed to the Domain admin group) it all comes to the same problem. Has anyone seen this happen before? I have looked in the windows event log and don't have anything come up for this, unless there's a separate log for VNC somewhere. Thanks, Pat From rpetit@pintendre.com Fri Aug 25 14:39:01 2006 From: rpetit@pintendre.com (rpetit@pintendre.com) Date: Fri Aug 25 13:39:01 2006 Subject: VNC-List digest, Vol 1 #1864 - 6 msgs Message-ID: <0J4K00FAZ0FBBY@falla.videotron.net> Bonjour, Je suis prisentement en vacances, je serais de retour le lundi 28 aout 2006 au matin. Merci. From harold@wolfeden.demon.co.uk Fri Aug 25 18:26:00 2006 From: harold@wolfeden.demon.co.uk (Harold Fuchs) Date: Fri Aug 25 17:26:00 2006 Subject: Non Technical User Needs Help References: <00a501c6c54a$eafcb6c0$6801b150@angua> Message-ID: <002801c6c863$02a25b70$6801b150@angua> On Monday, August 21, 2006 9:01 PM [GMT+1=CET], Stuart Kelly wrote: > Hi Harold, > > Have a look at UltraVNC Single Click > http://ultravnc.sourceforge.net/addons/singleclick.html > > You can give your friend a small executable which she can use to > connect you to her pc when she needs help. > Well, I tried two different approaches (on Win XP Pro/SP2): 1. Laptop to floortop back to back via cross-over Cat 5 Ethernet cable using VNC free edition (10mbps). 2. Laptop to floortop via the internet using Microsoft's Remote Assistance. The laptop was connected via its inbuilt 28.8kbps modem; the floortop via ADSL at about 2.5mbps. Remote Assistant was visibly faster at refreshing the screen. Now I know VNC runs on Windows, Mac, *nix and, probably by now, most washing machines, whereas RA *only* runs on XP but it's still a bit disappointing. Any ideas why? Harold Fuchs London, England From stustuff@gmail.com Sat Aug 26 13:16:00 2006 From: stustuff@gmail.com (Stuart Kelly) Date: Sat Aug 26 12:16:00 2006 Subject: Non Technical User Needs Help In-Reply-To: <002801c6c863$02a25b70$6801b150@angua> References: <00a501c6c54a$eafcb6c0$6801b150@angua> <002801c6c863$02a25b70$6801b150@angua> Message-ID: > Well, I tried two different approaches (on Win XP Pro/SP2): > > 1. Laptop to floortop back to back via cross-over Cat 5 Ethernet cable > using VNC free edition (10mbps). > 2. Laptop to floortop via the internet using Microsoft's Remote > Assistance. The laptop was connected via its inbuilt 28.8kbps modem; the > floortop via ADSL at about 2.5mbps. > > Remote Assistant was visibly faster at refreshing the screen. > > Now I know VNC runs on Windows, Mac, *nix and, probably by now, most > washing machines, whereas RA *only* runs on XP but it's still a bit > disappointing. > > Any ideas why? Probably the main reason is that Microsoft know how to get the best performace out of their operating system and don't have to support Mac *nix, etc. There is a UltraVNC Mirror Driver, http://www.uvnc.com/features/driver.html, which you can install to improve performace. RealVNC are also working on a similar driver http://www.realvnc.com/products/beta/vncmirror/. Although the free version may never support it. Stuart From m.bonet@gmx.de Sat Aug 26 19:00:01 2006 From: m.bonet@gmx.de (Markus Bonet) Date: Sat Aug 26 18:00:01 2006 Subject: vncconfig won't start In-Reply-To: <1156245452.9477.6.camel@homeserver> References: <1156245452.9477.6.camel@homeserver> Message-ID: <44F07DE7.8040506@gmx.de> >Hi, > >I am running vnc-server on FC5 (x64). >But vncconfig won't come up, it gives the following error. > >vncconfig >X Error of failed request: BadLength (poly request too large or >internal Xlib length error) > Major opcode of failed request: 134 (VNC-EXTENSION) > Minor opcode of failed request: 1 () > Serial number of failed request: 65 > Current serial number in output stream: 65 > >It started fine on FC4 (x64 too). >I browsed through this list and found the following mail, but this >didn't help getting vncconfig starting again. >Any hint on what might be wrong? > > No idea? Anyone? Thanks Markus From cooch17@verizon.net Sun Aug 27 14:11:01 2006 From: cooch17@verizon.net (Evan Cooch) Date: Sun Aug 27 13:11:01 2006 Subject: VNC-List digest, Vol 1 #1866 - 2 msgs In-Reply-To: <20060827110001.20243.54442.Mailman@realvnc.com> References: <20060827110001.20243.54442.Mailman@realvnc.com> Message-ID: <44F18BB3.5040707@verizon.net> I asked the same question many weeks ago. The move to X.org from XFree (I believe) is the culprit. vncconfig won't run under FC5, regardless of which window manager you use (I've tried twm, fluxbox, and gnome, amongst others). Until the VNC folks 'fix' things, you (and I) are out of luck. Not surprisingly, it doesn't work for Fedora Core 6 (RC2) either. So, no simple cut-and-paste options available. > >> Hi, >> >> I am running vnc-server on FC5 (x64). >> But vncconfig won't come up, it gives the following error. >> >> vncconfig >> X Error of failed request: BadLength (poly request too large or >> internal Xlib length error) >> Major opcode of failed request: 134 (VNC-EXTENSION) >> Minor opcode of failed request: 1 () >> Serial number of failed request: 65 >> Current serial number in output stream: 65 >> >> It started fine on FC4 (x64 too). >> I browsed through this list and found the following mail, but this >> didn't help getting vncconfig starting again. >> Any hint on what might be wrong? >> >> >> > No idea? Anyone? > > > Thanks > Markus > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > > > VNC-List mailing list > > > VNC-List@realvnc.com > > > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list > > > > > End of VNC-List Digest From m.bonet@gmx.de Sun Aug 27 15:28:01 2006 From: m.bonet@gmx.de (Markus Bonet) Date: Sun Aug 27 14:28:01 2006 Subject: VNC-List digest, Vol 1 #1866 - 2 msgs In-Reply-To: <44F18BB3.5040707@verizon.net> References: <20060827110001.20243.54442.Mailman@realvnc.com> <44F18BB3.5040707@verizon.net> Message-ID: <44F19DD6.1040505@gmx.de> Evan Cooch schrieb: > I asked the same question many weeks ago. The move to X.org from XFree > (I believe) is the culprit. vncconfig won't run under FC5, regardless > of which window manager you use (I've tried twm, fluxbox, and gnome, > amongst others). Hmm, FC4 was X.org too, right? There I got it running. It broke after the upgrade to FC5. I found this error-message in different places, so it should not be vnc-specific. But I didn't found so far. > Not surprisingly, it doesn't work for Fedora Core 6 (RC2) either. Hmm, ok. Markus From vieridipaola@yahoo.com Mon Aug 28 18:46:01 2006 From: vieridipaola@yahoo.com (Vieri Di Paola) Date: Mon Aug 28 17:46:01 2006 Subject: VNC HTTP tunnels and local loopback connections Message-ID: <20060828164530.34200.qmail@web57004.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hi, I'm trying to connect from a Windows XP (or Linux desktop) on a corporate LAN to a remote Windows XP machine on another LAN which I do not control. I need VNC traffic to be secure (ssh) and I should presume that the remote machine is behind a firewall allowing only HTTP/HTTPS Internet traffic (and may require using a proxy). I also need to leave the remote PC's registry untouched and preferably use only command-line tools. For this I am using GNU HTTPtunnel + ssh + realvnc. So on the corporate LAN I have a ssh server I administer. I followed a couple of howtos on the Internet and came up with this summary: 3 "nodes": remote PC to connect to, "middle server" (owned by me), my corporate PC. "middle server" in my case is a Linux server without Apache listening on port 80 and SSH is running. Install HTTPtunnel on "middle server" and run: # hts --forward-port localhost:22 80 In this case, "middle server" is publicly available on port 80. On remote PC that I want to control: Install and run VNC server. For a command-line VNC server I use: # winvnc4 -noconsole SecurityTypes=None PortNumber=5900 I would like to change PortNumber just in case the remote PC has another instance of VNCserver running (one that I don't administer). Would I just need to do, say, PortNumber=15900 ? Launch HTTPtunnel client: # htc --forward-port 900 --proxy : My_Corporate_SSH_Server:80 Open a ssh session to the "middle server": PLINK (command line): # plink -batch -l ssh_user -pw ssh_password -R 12344:localhost:15900 -P 900 localhost On my corporate PC, start a SSH session to the "middle server": PLINK: # plink -batch -l ssh_user -pw ssh_password -L 12333:localhost:12344 -P 22 My_Corporate_SSH_Server Finally I can launch vncviewer and connect to localhost:12333 However, when I do this the following error message displays: Local loopback connections are not allowed. As I said before, I don't want to (and can't) touch the remote PC's registry, so that's why I'm using realvnc4 free edition from command-line (but I don't know if there's anything regarding local loopbacks). In any case, I also tried using TightVNC (as an alternative) and setting AllowLoopback (restarted service) but still got the same loopback error message. The same tunnel described above but applied to port 3389 (Terminal Service) works fine. So I guess I'm missing something that's VNC-specific. Help appreciated. Vieri __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From eeeeeeeemail@gmail.com Tue Aug 29 00:33:00 2006 From: eeeeeeeemail@gmail.com (E Mail) Date: Mon Aug 28 23:33:00 2006 Subject: Solaris 8, VNC 4.1.2, Grey Screen via VNC client from Windows, Xterm able to be displayed to Windows Exceed? Message-ID: Hi all, I am not a UNIX admin, but I play an application admin on a unix host daily... I am attempting to get VNC up and running on a Solaris 8 box (SunOS xxxxx 5.8 Generic_117350-28 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Fire-880) in order to allow our 'help desk' folks access to the app without having to setup unix accounts. I have searched the archives as best I could and could not find a good match to my issue. I have installed VNC 4.1.2 into /opt/vnc... xstartup: #!/bin/sh [ -r $HOME/.Xresources ] && xrdb $HOME/.Xresources xsetroot -solid grey vncconfig -iconic & PATH=$PATH:/usr/dt/bin:/usr/X/bin export PATH /usr/dt/bin/Xsession I am able to export a display to my Windows XP host, running Exceed... but only get the 'grey' screen via the VNC client. Since I am able to export and get a term via Exceed, doesn't this mean everything should be fuctional for VNC to work? Any help on what I might be missing here? Thanks for your time. Regards, Ray From jerry@westrick.com Tue Aug 29 09:21:02 2006 From: jerry@westrick.com (Jerry Westrick) Date: Tue Aug 29 08:21:02 2006 Subject: Solaris 8, VNC 4.1.2, Grey Screen via VNC client from Windows, Xterm able to be displayed to Windows Exceed? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200608290820.55723.jerry@westrick.com> On Tuesday 29 August 2006 00:32, E Mail wrote: > Hi all, > > I am not a UNIX admin, but I play an application admin on a unix host > daily... > > I am attempting to get VNC up and running on a Solaris 8 box (SunOS xxxxx > 5.8 Generic_117350-28 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Fire-880) in order to allow our > 'help desk' folks access to the app without having to setup unix accounts. > > I have searched the archives as best I could and could not find a good > match to my issue. > > I have installed VNC 4.1.2 into /opt/vnc... > > xstartup: > #!/bin/sh > > [ -r $HOME/.Xresources ] && xrdb $HOME/.Xresources > xsetroot -solid grey > vncconfig -iconic & > PATH=$PATH:/usr/dt/bin:/usr/X/bin > export PATH > /usr/dt/bin/Xsession > > I am able to export a display to my Windows XP host, running Exceed... but > only get the 'grey' screen via the VNC client. > > Since I am able to export and get a term via Exceed, doesn't this mean > everything should be fuctional for VNC to work? > Yeap VNC is working... > Any help on what I might be missing here? > X-Windows session configuration. vnc is doing what you expect it to... Unfortunately, X-Windows isn't. Look into what the command "/usr/dt/bin/Xsession" is doing... Being a linux guy, and not having a solaris to play with, can't help you much more than pointing where to look... Jerry > Thanks for your time. > > Regards, > Ray > _______________________________________________ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From vieridipaola@yahoo.com Tue Aug 29 15:08:01 2006 From: vieridipaola@yahoo.com (Vieri Di Paola) Date: Tue Aug 29 14:08:01 2006 Subject: VNC HTTP tunnels and local loopback connections In-Reply-To: <20060828164530.34200.qmail@web57004.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060829130717.1275.qmail@web57015.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --- Vieri Di Paola wrote: > Local loopback connections are not allowed. > I corrected my mistake: I had another process binding to port 5900 and that caused an error that I didn't see because of the -noconsole option. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From kingdbag@comcast.net Tue Aug 29 19:34:00 2006 From: kingdbag@comcast.net (Dbag) Date: Tue Aug 29 18:34:00 2006 Subject: Solaris 8, VNC 4.1.2, Grey Screen via VNC client from Windows, Xterm able to be displayed to Windows Exceed? In-Reply-To: <200608290820.55723.jerry@westrick.com> References: <200608290820.55723.jerry@westrick.com> Message-ID: <44F47A57.4030105@comcast.net> Jerry Westrick wrote: >On Tuesday 29 August 2006 00:32, E Mail wrote: > > >>Hi all, >> >>I am not a UNIX admin, but I play an application admin on a unix host >>daily... >> >>I am attempting to get VNC up and running on a Solaris 8 box (SunOS xxxxx >>5.8 Generic_117350-28 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Fire-880) in order to allow our >>'help desk' folks access to the app without having to setup unix accounts. >> >>I have searched the archives as best I could and could not find a good >>match to my issue. >> >>I have installed VNC 4.1.2 into /opt/vnc... >> >>xstartup: >>#!/bin/sh >> >>[ -r $HOME/.Xresources ] && xrdb $HOME/.Xresources >>xsetroot -solid grey >>vncconfig -iconic & >>PATH=$PATH:/usr/dt/bin:/usr/X/bin >>export PATH >>/usr/dt/bin/Xsession >> >>I am able to export a display to my Windows XP host, running Exceed... but >>only get the 'grey' screen via the VNC client. >> >>Since I am able to export and get a term via Exceed, doesn't this mean >>everything should be fuctional for VNC to work? >> >> >> >Yeap VNC is working... > > > >>Any help on what I might be missing here? >> >> >> > >X-Windows session configuration. >vnc is doing what you expect it to... >Unfortunately, X-Windows isn't. > >Look into what the command "/usr/dt/bin/Xsession" >is doing... > >Being a linux guy, and not having a solaris to play with, >can't help you much more than pointing where to look... > > >Jerry > > >>Thanks for your time. >> >>Regards, >>Ray >>_______________________________________________ >>VNC-List mailing list >>VNC-List@realvnc.com >>To remove yourself from the list visit: >>http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list >> >> >_______________________________________________ >VNC-List mailing list >VNC-List@realvnc.com >To remove yourself from the list visit: >http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list > > > I hope im reading this correctly... I know way back when I first used VNC on Linux I could get to the server and connect and I would just get an XWindows screen and console but I wanted the actual gnome desktop. 1. Edit ~/.vnc/xstartup 2. For KDE, replace "twm &" with "startkde &" 3. For Gnome, replace "twm &" with "exec gnome-session &" 4. Kill any existing VNC servers with "vncserver -kill :xxx" where xxx is the display number. 5. Start a new server. And this is what I had to do to get gnome working of course this shows gnome or kde but maybe this is something similar to what you are getting or need to do to get your specific desktop to load? Sorry best advice I can give from what I'm reading. From akira@p08.itscom.net Wed Aug 30 04:33:00 2006 From: akira@p08.itscom.net (akira@p08.itscom.net) Date: Wed Aug 30 03:33:00 2006 Subject: Solaris 8, VNC 4.1.2, Grey Screen via VNC client from Windows, Xterm able to be displayed to Windows Exceed? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060830023316.GA4438@home> Greeting. Loong day ago, I once used VNC on Solais. On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 05:32:27PM -0500, E Mail wrote: ] xstartup: ] #!/bin/sh ] ] [ -r $HOME/.Xresources ] && xrdb $HOME/.Xresources ] xsetroot -solid grey ] vncconfig -iconic & ] PATH=$PATH:/usr/dt/bin:/usr/X/bin ] export PATH ] /usr/dt/bin/Xsession ] Solais application such as dt sereies, uses special fonts which standard VNC server does not support. Check font path on normal X session and add thoses font path into VNC server's '-fp' option. -- Akira Hatakeyama E-Mail: akira@p08.itscom.net From RStorey@DCSO.nashville.org Wed Aug 30 14:47:01 2006 From: RStorey@DCSO.nashville.org (Storey, Robert (DCSO)) Date: Wed Aug 30 13:47:01 2006 Subject: EMC Powerpath and VNC Message-ID: Has anyone experience a problem using VNC on a box where Powerpath has been installed. We installed Powerpath remotely via a VNC connection. When we restarted the box after the install, VNC will no longer function. Cannot even get the service to start. Thanks bob From c_content@yahoo.com Wed Aug 30 19:10:02 2006 From: c_content@yahoo.com (christophe content) Date: Wed Aug 30 18:10:02 2006 Subject: Restart the target PC with VNC: loose the connection too soon! Message-ID: <20060830170923.74081.qmail@web54004.mail.yahoo.com> Hello: PC1 controls PC2 using VNC. If PC1 tries to restart PC2 using PC2 start button/restart, VNC closes the control window as soon as the restart option is hit. Even if the target PC2 does not restart directly because as an example there are some open file with a 'save' dialog that prompts, well the VNC window disappears,... too soon. Is there a way that the VNC window only closes after PC2 indeed goes restarting and disappears from the network? Thanks for your help, Chris __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From RStorey@DCSO.nashville.org Wed Aug 30 19:40:01 2006 From: RStorey@DCSO.nashville.org (Storey, Robert (DCSO)) Date: Wed Aug 30 18:40:01 2006 Subject: Restart the target PC with VNC: loose the connection too soon! Message-ID: We are working on getting that done. -----Original Message----- From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of christophe content Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 12:09 PM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Restart the target PC with VNC: loose the connection too soon! Hello: PC1 controls PC2 using VNC. If PC1 tries to restart PC2 using PC2 start button/restart, VNC closes the control window as soon as the restart option is hit. Even if the target PC2 does not restart directly because as an example there are some open file with a 'save' dialog that prompts, well the VNC window disappears,... too soon. Is there a way that the VNC window only closes after PC2 indeed goes restarting and disappears from the network? Thanks for your help, Chris __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list From crockn@gmail.com Thu Aug 31 14:59:00 2006 From: crockn@gmail.com (Sam) Date: Thu Aug 31 13:59:00 2006 Subject: Restart the target PC with VNC: loose the connection too soon! References: <20060830170923.74081.qmail@web54004.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001301c6ccfd$20b0fce0$3a9bdbd5@laptoppp> > Hello: > PC1 controls PC2 using VNC. If PC1 tries to restart > PC2 using PC2 start button/restart, VNC closes the > control window as soon as the restart option is hit. > Even if the target PC2 does not restart directly > because as an example there are some open file with a > 'save' dialog that prompts, well the VNC window > disappears,... too soon. Is there a way that the VNC > window only closes after PC2 indeed goes restarting > and disappears from the network? > Thanks for your help, > Chris > What you can do is reconnect immediatly. If it is running as a service it must certainly work. Sam, From c.palmer@lycos.co.uk Thu Aug 31 16:13:02 2006 From: c.palmer@lycos.co.uk (c.palmer@lycos.co.uk) Date: Thu Aug 31 15:13:02 2006 Subject: Over-internet monitoring Message-ID: <000201c6cd07$6c826d70$0300a8c0@main> I have the joyous responsibility of monitoring several computers over the internet (a service from my old business). I was wondering if there was any way that I can put the ip addresses of those computers into the distribution tool and tweak settings/install/reinstall/etc. over the internet? Connecting is fine but I need a way to interact over the net with most of the functionality of the tool. Thanks in advance. Chris. From sasson@insideout.co.il Thu Aug 31 17:12:00 2006 From: sasson@insideout.co.il (Ran Sasson @ I.O. Ltd.) Date: Thu Aug 31 16:12:00 2006 Subject: Restart the target PC with VNC: loose the connection too soon! In-Reply-To: <001301c6ccfd$20b0fce0$3a9bdbd5@laptoppp> References: <20060830170923.74081.qmail@web54004.mail.yahoo.com> <001301c6ccfd$20b0fce0$3a9bdbd5@laptoppp> Message-ID: <599ec6af0608310811m3c957193n24cf781325d64cd3@mail.gmail.com> >> What you can do is reconnect immediatly. >> If it is running as a service it must certainly work. you can reconnect only half the times. the other times ... well... -- Ran Sasson Inside Outsourcing (I.O) Ltd. -------- This message and any attachments may be confidential or privileged and are for the exclusive use of the intended recipient. If you are not the addressee or intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use, or disclose this communication to others. If you have received this in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it entirely from your system. Delivery of this message and any attachments to any person other than the intended recipient(s) is not intended in any way to waive confidentiality or a privilege. All personal messages express views only of the sender, which are not to be attributed to Finish Line, and may not be copied or distributed without this statement. -------- From nealh@nortel.com Thu Aug 31 20:12:01 2006 From: nealh@nortel.com (Neal Hartgrove) Date: Thu Aug 31 19:12:01 2006 Subject: Restart the target PC with VNC: loose the connection too soon! In-Reply-To: <20060830170923.74081.qmail@web54004.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060830170923.74081.qmail@web54004.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <44F72630.2040307@nortel.com> I created a shortcut on my desktop of the remote pc FORCED RESTART NOW %windir%\system32\shutdown.exe -r -f -t 0 http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/shutdown.mspx?mfr=true christophe content wrote: >Hello: >PC1 controls PC2 using VNC. If PC1 tries to restart >PC2 using PC2 start button/restart, VNC closes the >control window as soon as the restart option is hit. >Even if the target PC2 does not restart directly >because as an example there are some open file with a >'save' dialog that prompts, well the VNC window >disappears,... too soon. Is there a way that the VNC >window only closes after PC2 indeed goes restarting >and disappears from the network? >Thanks for your help, >Chris > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >VNC-List mailing list >VNC-List@realvnc.com >To remove yourself from the list visit: >http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list > > > -- Neal Hartgrove Nortel Networks Automation Verification Specialist AT&T Custom Contract Validation Email:nealh@nortel.com Phone:(919) 991-8849 ESN 351-8849 From paul@in-space.demon.co.uk Thu Aug 31 21:14:01 2006 From: paul@in-space.demon.co.uk (paul) Date: Thu Aug 31 20:14:01 2006 Subject: Port 443 Message-ID: <001801c6cd31$9b778230$0a00a8c0@paulscomputer> Hi I have installed VNC on my home network and it works fine when I use port 5900 (the default) but when I switch to port 443 it does not connect and I get the error "read/select: connection reset by peer" I need to use port 443 because I want to connect to my home pc from work and that is the only port opoen on the work firewall Any help appreciated Paul From sasson@insideout.co.il Thu Aug 31 21:40:00 2006 From: sasson@insideout.co.il (Ran Sasson @ I.O. Ltd.) Date: Thu Aug 31 20:40:00 2006 Subject: Restart the target PC with VNC: loose the connection too soon! In-Reply-To: <44F72630.2040307@nortel.com> References: <20060830170923.74081.qmail@web54004.mail.yahoo.com> <44F72630.2040307@nortel.com> Message-ID: <599ec6af0608311239s1b691610q592e3dc1aa29d93a@mail.gmail.com> you can also do restart HOLDING the ctrl-key while pressing the "shutdown" or the "OK" (by the start-menu or by alt-ctrl-del) this will restart the machine immediately without waiting to any application to terminate. Ran Sasson Inside Outsourcing (I.O) ltd. On 8/31/06, Neal Hartgrove wrote: > > I created a shortcut on my desktop of the remote pc > > FORCED RESTART NOW > > %windir%\system32\shutdown.exe -r -f -t 0 > > > http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/shutdown.mspx?mfr=true