What good is VNC's GPL?

Mon Apr 4 15:17:01 2005

Yury,

No, actually I have no interest in a built in legacy activeX viewer.
There is no real value in that.  VNCScan ships with the appropriate
viewer for the flavor of VNC being used and compliance with the GPL is
not an issue.  I think that maintaining a proprietary viewer that tries
to fit all deployments is unnecessary overhead and produces absolutely
no value.  

I assure you that I have no interest in your little control and I don't
know who Mr. Smith is.  Please don't take this route, Yury, it's not
good for either of us.  I have nothing against you or your product and I
think that you competing with VNCScan is a good thing because it breeds
innovations.  Please don't turn this into an online drama.  

I'm not going to sit and debate over your control.  I'll let everyone
else do that.  I just put in my $ .02 and I'm done commenting. :)  You
really should lighten up, though, you're starting to sound like the type
of guy that he's describing you as.  

- Steve Bostedor
http://www.vncscan.com

-----Original Message-----
From: vnc-list-admin "at" realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-admin "at" realvnc.com] On
Behalf Of Yury Averkiev
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 9:51 AM
To: Steve Bostedor; jnw "at" realvnc.com; adam.moore.scode "at" gmail.com;
vnc-list "at" realvnc.com
Subject: RE: What good is VNC's GPL?

Steve,
we have a strong belief that you are the guy behind all this flame. And
the reason for that is because your VNCScan lucks a built-in VNC viewer
feature. Sorry, it won't work for you. ViewerX is not violating the GPL
license.

Best regards,
Yury

SmartCode Solutions
WWW:
http://www.s-code.com
Tel: +1 (650) 276-0434 or +65 91125904
Fax: +1 (801)
904-5158 

----------------------------------------
 From: "Steve Bostedor"
<Steveb "at" tshore.com>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:15 AM
To: "James
Weatherall" <jnw "at" realvnc.com>, "Adam Moore"
<adam.moore.scode "at" gmail.com>, <vnc-list "at" realvnc.com>
Subject: RE: What good is VNC's GPL? 

Hi everyone,
I've been kinda quiet on this issue because their product competes with
ours and I believe that it's best that I hold my toung for the most
part. I've been very careful not to violate the GPL with my product
since the very day that it was released but I can understand how
Smartcode may have just simply misunderstood the GPL. Unless you have a
lawyers mind, it's sometimes hard to wrap your brain around how it
works.

I strongly believe, though, that yuri
will comply with the GPL now that
it's explained by James. I think that Bob
is correct in many aspects
except that Yuri was being malicious in not giving
up the code. I think
that he just didn't know that he was in violation. (I
hope, anyways)

Bob, I honestly don't see the real value of that control anyways. What
is this website that you plan to make of it that this control is so
important for? I might be able to slap together an ActiveX control for
you if you don't feel like waiting for this drama to play out. :)

- Steve
Bostedor
http://www.vncscan.com

-----Original Message-----
From:
vnc-list-admin "at" realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-admin "at" realvnc.com] On Behalf
Of James Weatherall
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:00 AM
To: 'Adam Moore';
vnc-list "at" realvnc.com
Subject: RE: What good is VNC's GPL?

Adam,

Since
the ActiveX control is a work derived from the TightVNC Viewer, and
since TightVNC is based upon the standard VNC Viewer 3.3.5, the ActiveX
control must also be provided under the terms of the GPL.

Cheers,

Wez @ RealVNC
Ltd.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: vnc-list-admin "at" realvnc.com
>
[mailto:vnc-list-admin "at" realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moore
> Sent: 04 April
2005 03:56
> To: vnc-list "at" realvnc.com
> Subject: Re: What good is VNC's GPL?
[snip]

> Our product is a wrapper around the TightVNC code. Before the
ViewerX 
> development had been started, we were aware about circumstances of 
> using GPLed code. And since the intention was to build a commercial
>
component, we decided to make it GPL savvy and build a wrapper. That
> is
about the best I can give you. The difficulty we have answering 
> these
questions comes from how far we must answer them. Unfortunately

> a few
people try to ask questions to reveal how our proprietary code 
> works. So
it is difficult for us to answer more than that.
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