What good is VNC's GPL?

Sun Apr 3 01:40:00 2005

I think that he was referring to Adam.

On Apr 2, 2005 5:51 PM, James Weatherall <jnw "at" realvnc.com> wrote:
> Brian,
> 
> The standard VNC releases are under the GPL (which of course then applies to
> any derived works).  There is no question of the licence under which it is
> distributed.
> 
> I don't recall having told anyone to shut up and go away...  (Please see my
> previous mail, to which you replied).
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vnc-list-admin "at" realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-admin "at" realvnc.com] On
> Behalf Of Brian K. White
> Sent: 02 April 2005 23:16
> To: vnc-list "at" realvnc.com
> Subject: Re: What good is VNC's GPL?
> 
> Actually, I'm kind of curious to see a satisfactory resolution to this
> myself.
> Is VNC gpl?
> Does the product incorporate gpl vnc code?
> If the answers are yes and yes, then I am interested to follow the progress
> of this discussion and if the people selling that product are uncomfortable
> with the facts of life when using gpl code that's kind of just too bad don't
> 
> you think?
> Linksys had to own up.
> If they are not mis-using gpl code then I would like to hear a statement to
> the effect of "X has purchased or licenced some non-gpl code from us for
> commercial use"
> Or "vnc is not gpl it's bsd" or some other licence that allows appropriation
> 
> & resale without requiring contribution back to the community.
> 
> Or else we must assume there is in fact a problem and it is completely
> correct for someone to raise their voice about it and completely incorrect
> to tell them to shut up and go away.
> 
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Weatherall" <jnw "at" realvnc.com>
> To: "'Adam Moore'" <adam.moore.scode "at" gmail.com>; "'Bob Smith'"
> <sendjunkmailshere "at" gmail.com>; <vnc-list "at" realvnc.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 3:34 PM
> Subject: RE: What good is VNC's GPL?
> 
> > Guys,
> >
> > Just to clear one thing up, since I don't have time right this instant
> > to answer these questions fully:
> >
> > Adam Moore is neither employed nor affiliated to RealVNC Ltd., and is
> > therefore an inappropriate contact for matters relating to VNC or
> > other products of RealVNC Ltd.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vnc-list-admin "at" realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-admin "at" realvnc.com]
> > On Behalf Of Adam Moore
> > Sent: 02 April 2005 16:56
> > To: Bob Smith; vnc-list "at" realvnc.com
> > Subject: Re: What good is VNC's GPL?
> >
> >
> > Ok I am going to respond to you Mr. "Smith".  We have not responded to
> > you because we feel you are actually not "Bob Smith".  After doing
> > some research your business does not exist.  We have a guess of who
> > you are.  We are pretty sure you are someone who continually barrages
> > our product with threats and posts in OUR forums telling people how
> > bad our product is. Your
> > website continually tries to disparage our product when we have done
> > nothing
> > to you.  We are trying to conduct a business without trying to stoop to
> > your
> > level.  Truthfully your facts need to be straight.  RealVNC has not
> > contacted us.  We have tried contacting them, but they are probably too
> > busy.  If they were to contact us we would be happy to get into a
> > discussion
> > with them about our product.  What it comes down to sir is that it is
> > really
> > none of your business the tactics that RealVNC takes.  It is up to them
> > and
> > they will decide what they want to do with their product.  This is a list
> > for helping people with problems and that is what we have tried to do.  I
> > would appreciate it if you would keep posts here to that topic.  This will
> > be the last time I will respond to you about this matter.  If you have
> > anything that has to do with problems with RealVNC in itself I will be
> > more
> > than happy to assist you.
> >
> > I have to apologize again to this list for errant traffic that really
> > doesn't have to do with this list.
> >
> > --
> > Adam Moore
> > Public Relations Coordinator
> > SmartCode Solutions, VNC Manager
> > Adam_Moore "at" S-code.com
> > www.s-code.com
> > On Apr 2, 2005 6:21 AM, Bob Smith <sendjunkmailshere "at" gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I've posted to this list numerous times and I've asked the company
> >> that uses VNC source code to create their own ActiveX control both in
> >> public here and in personal emails.  All that I want is compliance
> >> with the GPL so that I can have the source code to their ActiveX
> >> control.
> >>
> >> The guys at realVNC seem not to mind that they are not releasing the
> >> source code.  Does this mean that VNC code is a free for all, now?
> >> Are we all allowed to copy as much of it as we want and sell it as
> >> our own product with no risk of legal action?
> >>
> >> I wanted to make a free website that all of us could have found very
> >> usefull but I need that source code to do it.  Smartcode has ignored
> >> every request both here in the list and in documented emails.  This is
> >> in direct violation of the GPL.   I am on the east coast of the USA so
> >> there's very little that I can do to a single code theif in Singapore
> >> (the guy behind smart code) but this is the time for the authors at
> >> Real VNC to either stand up for the GPL or just release the code as
> >> freely copyable.
> >>
> >> You can't selectively enforce the GPL and expect it to hold any
> >> weight in the courts.  I know the the guys at smartcode monitor this
> >> list becase I see them posting here often.  There are a few other
> >> "companies" that are stealing VNC code and reselling it as their own,
> >> also.  Can I just rename key function names and call it my own
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