Yes, I'm aware of that and I do have both open in my router and, as far as I can tell, in the firewall. But that doesn't seem to explain why http://localhost:5800 will not work. On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 07:31:40 +0800, Wall, John <jwall "at" agric.wa.gov.au> wrote: > Hi Michael, > > James has replied on a few times lately that: > > for the Java to work you must have both 5900 & 5800 ports open. > > John