NIS and no solution yet

E. Sprow brakepro "at" adelphia.net
Wed Mar 31 01:44:00 2004


An update:

I have uninstalled and reinstalled NIS 2003.  Leaving VNC on the computer.
After reinstallation, and running vnc viewer, NIS log comes up and asks if I
want to permit vnc viewer to access the internet, I say yes.  Immediately
another NIS log comes up and asks if I want to allow Norton Internet
Security Professional Proxy Service to access the internet.  I tried
permitting, blocking, and monitoring this last one, and yet vnc viewer will
not run if NIS is enabled, regardless of NIS proxy service settings.

Searching NIS database on proxy servers, it tells me to 'add' the port to
monitor in the firewall settings, which in the case of vnc is port 5900.
Since I had already done this, it is still not accepting the connection.
When NIS is enabled, I still get 'server closed connection unexpectedly' in
vnc viewer error box.

Now, what is it about vnc viewer that won't allow NIS proxy service to run
with it?

Ongoing...
Elke
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Seak, Teng-Fong" <tfseak "at" futurmaster.com>
To: <vnc-list "at" realvnc.com>
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 11:09 AM
Subject: RE: NIS and no solution yet


> You've no luck.  I've just tried "getting out", NIS2004 then popped up a
dialog to ask if I want to allow this.  Once allowed, it works without any
problem.
>
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : E. Sprow [mailto:brakepro "at" adelphia.net]
> > Envoyi : lundi 29 mars 2004 16:53
> > @ : vnc-list "at" realvnc.com
> > Objet : Re: NIS and no solution yet
> >
> > I'm sorry for the mixed message here -
> >
> > the problem occurs on the machine running the viewer; I can't run the
viewer
> > when NIS is enabled.  Even though I have added it to NIS firewall
> > configuration.
> >
> > VNC server machines can have NIS enabled, and I can 'get in' (again,
only
> > when I disable NIS on the viewer end).
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Elke
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Seak, Teng-Fong" <tfseak "at" futurmaster.com>
> > To: <vnc-list "at" realvnc.com>
> > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 5:00 AM
> > Subject: RE: NIS and no solution yet
> >
> >
> > > Wait a moment!
> > >
> > > What problem are you exactly having with NIS?  In the machine where
VNC
> > server is used?  Or the machine VNC viewer is used?
> > >
> > > Your second paragraph seems to imply the VNC viewer machine because
from
> > other mails, you're using the words "get out".
> > >
> > > But your third paragraph seems to mean the opposite.  I'd like to
help,
> > but I'm lost.
> > >
> > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > De : E. Sprow [mailto:brakepro "at" adelphia.net]
> > > > Envoyi : dimanche 28 mars 2004 22:45
> > > > @ : vnc-list "at" realvnc.com
> > > > Objet : Re: NIS and no solution yet
> > > >
> > > > Okay,
> > > >
> > > > as I am taking suggestions and doing a bit of troubleshooting, here
is
> > what
> > > > I've found:
> > > >
> > > > I have removed vnc executables from the Norton firewall
configuration
> > > > completely, in the 'hopes' that it would prompt me that vnc was
trying
> > to
> > > > get out to the internet when I ran the viewer.  Thus, with NIS
enabled,
> > I
> > > > got instead a vnc error box "server closed connection unexpectedly".
No
> > NIS
> > > > prompt at all.
> > > >
> > > > So, are there any reasons that vnc would give me that message?  I am
not
> > > > running vnc as a service in user mode or in service mode on the
remote
> > > > machine (as I thought that it only needed to be running on the host
> > > > machine).
> > > >
> > > > I'll keep trying here....
> > > > Elke
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Seak, Teng-Fong" <tfseak "at" futurmaster.com>
> > > > To: <vnc-list "at" realvnc.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 11:22 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: NIS and no solution yet
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > OK, I've downloaded the NIS 2004 evaluation version.  And here're
the
> > > > steps and remarks I've got throughout the whole testing.
> > > > >
> > > > > In a new machine, I installed VNC before NIS.  After that, I tried
to
> > > > install NIS but I had to stop and install IE6 SP1 before because NIS
> > 2004
> > > > needs it!  Then NIS installed Windows Installer.  On reboot, NIS
> > continues
> > > > to install again.
> > > > >
> > > > > During the install, I only use typical choice.  Gee!  It installs
NAV.
> > > > I've got McAfee already installed.  And the installation keeps on
> > generating
> > > > errors (no less than 15 times)!  What a good product!  Then on
reboot,
> > > > there're some configs ..... no idea what it's doing .....
> > > > >
> > > > > Reboot again, and I started VNC viewer from another PC, and on the
> > NIC+VNC
> > > > server computer, I get a dialog "What do you want to do?"  I
answered
> > Permit
> > > > with "Always use this action" enabled.
> > > > >
> > > > > To make sure, I open NIS, click on "Personal Firewall" >
"Configure"
> > > > button on the right > "Programs" tab > I check that WinVNC.exe is
inside
> > the
> > > > list of "Manual Program Control".
> > > > > It has Internet Access = Permit All; Category = General
> > > > >
> > > > > And to make security even tighter, I click the Modify button for
> > WinVNC:
> > > > > *I chose "Manually configure Internet access" for the first page;
> > > > > *"modify" button again for the "Program rules";
> > > > > *Connections tab: I chose " connections *from* other computers";
> > > > > *Computers tab: "Only the computers and sites listed below" (you
have
> > to
> > > > know how to supply correct network address and mask)
> > > > > *Communications: TCP + "Only the types of communication ....." in
> > which I
> > > > chose "Individual specified ports" and 5900
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, with all these almost paranoid settings, I still could get
to
> > the
> > > > VNC server.  I don't know what else I could say to you.  Maybe you
could
> > > > delete your vnc entries first, and do like me, start VNC viewer from
> > another
> > > > PC and let NIS pops up dialog to wait for your choice.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > > > De : E. Sprow [mailto:brakepro "at" adelphia.net]
> > > > > > Envoyi : jeudi 25 mars 2004 19:14
> > > > > > @ : vnc-list "at" realvnc.com
> > > > > > Cc : Seak, Teng-Fong
> > > > > > Objet : Re: NIS and no solution yet
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Goody!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Seak, here is a link for free 'trialware' of Norton Internet
> > security,
> > > > the
> > > > > > 2004 package (I have 2003 and am not sure if that is part of the
> > > > problem):
> > > > > > http://nct.digitalriver.com/0001/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > James, thanks for the lead and yes I do have it correct in
program
> > > > control,
> > > > > > just making shortcuts for the list here, that's a bad idea I see
now
> > in
> > > > > > retrospect.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When NIS is enabled and I try to connect, I get:
> > > > > > "server closed connection unexpectedly";
> > > > > > when it is disabled on the viewer end but enabled on the server
end,
> > I
> > > > get:
> > > > > > "connection timed out" and I think a '10006' error message.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for your help in mitigating my madness here;)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Elke
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Seak, Teng-Fong" <tfseak "at" futurmaster.com>
> > > > > > To: "E. Sprow" <brakepro "at" adelphia.net>
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 12:17 PM
> > > > > > Subject: RE: NIS and no solution yet
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've lots of machines available to me for tests, but I don't
have
> > NIS.
> > > > If
> > > > > > you could tell me where I could find NIS, eg some evaluation
> > version, I
> > > > > > could take a look for you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > > > > De : E. Sprow [mailto:brakepro "at" adelphia.net]
> > > > > > > Envoyi : jeudi 25 mars 2004 16:14
> > > > > > > @ : vnc-list "at" realvnc.com
> > > > > > > Objet : NIS and no solution yet
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >    Hello Learned List People,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Going a bit crazy here:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does Norton Internet Security 2003 work with VNC, or NOT???
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If so, can anyone please send their settings?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sorry Peter, still trying to do this without SSH.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My settings in NIS:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 'program control':  vncserver.exe: permit
> > > > > > >                             vncviewer.exe: permit
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > general rule:  allow TCP in and out from all computers.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > workgroup networking:  allow connections only from the
following
> > (my
> > > > own
> > > > > > > corporate network).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And no, I still have to disable NIS to make a connection.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What is it about VNC that does't like the taste of NIS, or
rather,
> > the
> > > > > > > opposite?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > David, you wrote that NIS 2004 works; I don't know what is
> > different
> > > > from
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > 2003 version.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This may seem like a small thing, but going over the list
> > archives, I
> > > > see
> > > > > > many
> > > > > > > small things that are constantly adding the knowledge base.
This
> > > > would
> > > > > > > certainly help. (shameless plea for help).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Elke;)
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