Web-based VNC access

Stephan A. Edelman stephan "at" newace.ca
Wed Apr 7 16:32:02 2004


Our software is not generally used in a network setting. It's intended to
allow people to connect to their PC accross the Internet using an
easy-to-remember Internet Name that tracks their current dynamic IP address.

It's possible to allow the user to download the binary VNC-viewer (our
version of VNC server has HTTP based file-transfer support), but this is in
reality an extra step no better than ActiveX as it has similar OS
limitations.

Stephan.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Corni Beerse" <cbeerse "at" lycos.nl>
To: "Stephan A. Edelman" <stephan "at" newace.ca>
Cc: "Seak, Teng-Fong" <tfseak "at" futurmaster.com>; <vnc-list "at" realvnc.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: Web-based VNC access


> Stephan A. Edelman wrote:
>
> > Let me explain where I'm coming from.  We're combining VNC with our
Dynamic
> > DNS software and what's distinctly evident from the volume of tech
support
> > calls we receive is that the end-user is stumped when they try to access
> > their PC and the browser just displays an "X" instead of the Java VNC
Viewer
> > applet. Furthermore, this is perceived by the end-user as a flaw in our
> > software.
> >
> > The average end-user has no idea (and doesn't care) that a JVM is
required
> > and just wants it to "work". I agree that JRE is easy to install, but
that
> > still generates a tech support call to us so we can tell the end-user to
go
> > to Sun and download an 8MB JVM.
>
> If it is at a company network or such, best to install the vncviewer on
those
> machines. Its just a binary that can be dumped roughly everywhere.
>
> For what its worth, just dump it on your samba-server and give users the
> shortcut to `\\samba\path\to\vncviewer.exe host_to_see:0`
>
> No need to use any overhead at all.
>
>
> CBee
>
>
> >
> > I'm no fan of Microsoft or their practices, but their browser
penetration is
> > so significant that we have to look for a more "transparent" solution
and
> > ActiveX may provide this for us.
>
> How transparent will you have it? If you put `vncviewer` in the path, then
you
> can use it at every host, even a M$-os.
>
>
> >
> > Stephan.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Seak, Teng-Fong" <tfseak "at" futurmaster.com>
> > To: <vnc-list "at" realvnc.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:40 AM
> > Subject: RE: Web-based VNC access
> >
> >
> >
> >>>-----Message d'origine-----
> >>>De : Stephan A. Edelman [mailto:stephan "at" newace.ca]
> >>>Envoyi : mercredi 7 avril 2004 14:05
> >>>@ : Seak, Teng-Fong; vnc-list "at" realvnc.com
> >>>Objet : Re: Web-based VNC access
> >>>
> >>>I welcome the availability of an ActiveX control for two reasons: (1)
> >
> > The
> >
> >>>reality is that Java is becoming less accessible due to the fact that
> >>>Microsoft has decided to remove it from its browser. Installation of a
> >
> > JVM
> >
> >>>is less than transparent to the average end-user.
> >>
> >>That would depend on what you mean, or what you want, by the word
> >
> > "transparent".  That means IE installs it without the end-user knowing
it.
> > Virus does that as well ;-)
> >
> >>As a matter of fact, installing JRE is just "next", "next", "next".  If
> >
> > this isn't simple enough for an end-user, sorry to say that, I think his
IQ
> > is well below 100.  Computer is probably not for him.  Well, he could go
to
> > a video shop and rent a film.  That's certainly easier :-D
> >
> >>>(2) Microsoft's JVM far
> >>>outperforms Sun's JVM due to the fact that it does JIT byte-code
> >
> > compilation
> >
> >>>into a Windows native executable form, whereas Sun's JVM is completely
> >>>interpreted. This translates into a much slower VNC response than is
the
> >>>case for MS JVM or an ActiveX control.
> >>
> >>True, but there're also other JRE which are more performant than Sun's,
> >
> > even though I don't know which one is best.
> >
> >>>My $0.02 worth...
> >>>
> >>>Stephan.
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Seak, Teng-Fong" <tfseak "at" futurmaster.com>
> >>>To: <vnc-list "at" realvnc.com>
> >>>Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:42 AM
> >>>Subject: RE: Web-based VNC access
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>ActiveX?  That means it can only be displayed on IE and only on
> >
> > Windows
> >
> >>>platforms.  Sorry to tell you, this is a regression and opposite the
> >
> > idea of
> >
> >>>VNC which is multi-platform and multi-environment.
> >>>
> >>>>pffff...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>-----Message d'origine-----
> >>>>>De : yury "at" s-code.com [mailto:yury "at" s-code.com]
> >>>>>Envoyi : mercredi 7 avril 2004 08:05
> >>>>>@ : vnc-list "at" realvnc.com
> >>>>>Objet : Web-based VNC access
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Hello fellow VNC users,
> >>>>>I'm glad to let you know that today we have released a simple, but
> >
> > yet
> >
> >>>>>useful web based VNC access.
> >>>>>Basically this is a web page, which hosts our VNC ActiveX control,
> >
> > and
> >
> >>>>>allows you to access your VNC server from a browser window.
> >>>>>Currently this feature is available for Windows users with Internet
> >>>
> >>>Explorer
> >>>
> >>>>>installed (we haven't tested it with other browsers yet).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Here is the link to the Web VNC page:
> >>>>>http://www.s-code.com/webvnc.aspx?menu=webvnc
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Comments and bug reports on this feature are greatly appreciated.
> >>>>>Best regards,
> >>>>>Yury
> >>>>>
> >>>>>SmartCode Solutions
> >>>>> <http://www.s-code.com/> http://www.s-code.com
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