Expert VNC - An Independent Review
Mon Jun 2 09:35:00 2003
You obviously didn't read my post correctly! It wasn't meant to be insulting, and if you read the end of the post, I too said it was
expensive, and I doubt we would pay for it as we use VNC already which covers our needs, the post was meant to help explain some of the
questions people were asking! I suggest you go back and read again! It was an independent review!
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02/06/2003 09:27 Subject: Re: Expert VNC - An Independent Review
I found this email quite insulting.
I work for a struggling dot-com in America. In a world where RealVNC
itself costs nothing, and where Remote Admin (for Windows only, but as we
know many US companies think Windows is somehow a Godsend... which of
course it's not) costs, what, $50 for every 2 computers?... well, $500
for a slight spinoff of VNC is ridiculous.
My company could not afford this software if we WANTED to... and I
seriously doubt that even larger companies in the US could, or this point.
I certainly hope that "Expert VNC" does not become the new corporate
The days where you can take an open-source/free software package, make
some changes, add support, and sell it for beaucoup de bucks are LONG
since over, guys. Reality check time.
On Mon, 2 Jun 2003 email@example.com wrote:
> Expert VNC - An Independent Review
> After Joel Bomgaars posted his topic advertising Expert VNC to the list, there was quite a bit of controversy over it, weather it
> legal, secure, the cost, etc.
> I too posted a reply, asking a few questions regarding these issues, at which point Joel offered to give me a demo copy, to test, and
> give an independent review.
> So I did!
> How did I demo the program? Well I have a friend who at Uni in Portsmouth (UK), her net connection is behind a firewall, which allows
> outgoing traffic, but blocks incoming. She's always having PC problems, and as she isn't very computer literate herself it usually
> means a trip down to Portsmouth to fix. I've tried to use VNC, but her firewall blocks the connection.
> So, the day before hearing about Expert VNC, I got a call from her again, apparently she's managed to uninstall her soundcard, and
> couldn't get it working again. So I was looking at having to go down and see her, and install the soundcard again. However up on
> hearing about Expert VNC, and being given the opportunity to demo it, I thought I'd give it a try.
> I emailed her the server demo (which is only 265k), and ran my viewer demo (126k). When she opened the server demo, I gave her my IP
> address, which she entered into the connection box. This then goes out through her firewall, and connects to my viewer. This means
> there is pretty good security, you can't connect to a users PC, with out them running the server, and then entering your IP address.
> Once she's done that, I can control her PC, which is what I did, after 5 minutes, I'd loaded the soundcard drivers back on and had it
> all working again.
> So I'll try and clear up some of the questions that were being asked. Is it insecure? Not as far as I can see, although I'm not
> an expert in those fields, but the fact the application has to be launched by the end user, who then has to enter your IP address
> before you can connect makes it as secure as any other remote admin program.
> Is it legal? Again I'm no expert, but VNC is open source, and distributed under the GNU General Public License and none of the
> VNC files have been modified, so as far as I can see, yes!
> What is the cost? At first I thought the cost was $495 per license, meaning if I wanted to support all 200 workstation on our site,
> would cost $99,000. But after running this past Joel, I found that you only need 1 license for every PC that's going to SUPPORT the
> other workstations, they don't actually need a license, as the software is only installed while your supporting them. A better way of
> doing this maybe by saying the 'Server' is free, but you need to buy a license for the 'Host'.
> So, my verdict! Is it useful, yes, for supporting users who are behind a firewall its excellent, and as far as I can see there are no
> security or legal issues.
> However, I think the cost per license ($495) is maybe a little on the steep side, I'm sure more people would be interested, if the
> were halved or something, or the pricing scheme re-worked/re-worded, so you get the server for free, but host you pay for.
> Hope this clears up some of the questions!
> Ben Blackmore
> Triumph International Ltd
> Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE
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