vncserver on my gateway server
Sun Feb 16 23:49:00 2003
At 12:04 PM 2/16/2003, Wayne Throop wrote:
>: Jordan Share
>: I guess that, fundamentally, my problem is that I just don't know of
>: any compelling GUI linux apps. :)
>I find xterm and wish (the windowing shell) to be excellent linux GUI apps.
>Most of my windows are one of the two of those, or vncviewer windows, with
>a mozilla window thrown in.
It's been a while since I used xterm, but it seems like putty is a pretty
close replacement. I tend to just open up another ssh session when I want
another terminal. With pageant (key agent), this is a 3 keystroke process
for my most common ssh-targets.
I tried to find some info on wish, but I can't really tell how it would be
used. Can you give examples of how you use it? Is it a shell that
inherently has the ability to make windows on an xserver (vs. bash which
>In theory, much of what I do with xterm, wish, and vnc could be done
>with screen and J.Random.Scripting.Language, and at least some of what I
>do with mozilla could be done with lynx or links. Or possibly with
>character-mode emacs. But I find X packs more info onto the screen more
>flexibly than simpler alternatives. Then too, I've gotten addicted to
>gestural interactions (ie, point and operate as opposed to fiddle with
>positioning keys or commands and operate), and while the linux terminals
>have minimal mark-and-paste capabilities via gpm, most
>character-cell-oriented apps are mouse-blind.
Ah, yes, I would never suggest using a linux box as your primary desktop
without X. That'd be crazy.
>I am especially fond of wish as a method of integrating the unix
>pipe-oriented world with X, by creating X-oriented pipe fittings, and
>allowing selections and text widget content to be used as pipe sources
OIC. That does sound interesting. Can you give me pointers (URLs) to more
information on this? Or is that like asking "Can you give me more
information on C?"
>So basically, Windows just serves me as an overcomplicated
>device driver loader, mostly because device manufacturers don't
>bother with linux drivers, and don't provide reliable specs.
>But that's just me.
Yep. That's basically what it's for. Well, and that fact that everything
really almost has to "just work" or it wouldn't be easy enough for people
to install stuff. Which makes it easy for me to install stuff. :)
I would have to agree that there aren't any /compelling/ GUI apps for
windows either. Possibly some of the high-end video/audio/image processing
tools. But I don't use those. :)
What I was trying to get at was that there seem to be a lot of people who
have windows desktops that want to VNC into their linux boxes just so they
can have a GUI. And then what do they do with it? Open terminals, and/or
browse the web. Which they could just do natively on windows, and not have
to deal with the lag of VNC (even on a 100Mbit lan, it can still be laggy).
I might be projecting tho. :)