ANNOUNCE: List Reply-To change
Fri Nov 15 17:31:41 2002
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 11:30:02AM +0100, "Beerse, Corni" wrote:
> Is it already changed, did you a reply to all or something else phony?
You can answer that by looking at the headers of the mail.
I do not reply to a list with 'r' ever, I always reply to all. If I were
to try to figure out which list does munging and which one doesn't,
that's be very confusing to change my reply habits accordingly.
Reply should always go to the author of the Email (only). I get upset
when a list tries to hijack a personal reply and sent it to the list
(which is what reply-to does), so I have my system ignore it for lists.
> > Please, before anyone continues to argue, go read:
> > http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=6693&group_id=1
> Do you have more of those documents? It starts with "The content within this
> document is not necessarily up-to-date. Please watch for an updated version
> of this document to appear in coming weeks. (2002-05-18)". I regard it is
> now way beyond the comming weeks after 18 may 2002 (25 weeks ago...)
Please ignore that. The reasons for the above message are not too
relevant to the content and would bore people.
For that matter, I promised I would not spam the list about endless
discussions on this, so I won't, sorry but I'll skip arguing your
points, trust me it could have gone back and forth a while.
(but if you wanted to Email me and continue privately, honestly,
outside of technical questions on removing dupes for instance, I'm not
interested: you may be debating this for the first time, but on my side,
I've lost count, and I've seem this debate and participated here and
there for more than 5 years now...)
> I like to add here, in the current world of mail spam, I don't like my email
> address to be send to everyone on every list. If it is possible I'd like my
> address stripped from the header if it goes trough a maillist. It would at
> least be nice if it is an option.
If you get Cced on an answer, it's typically because you posted first,
so you've already been harvested. moot point.
(that said, mailman 2.1 beta can remove you from the Cc before
rebroadcasting the mail to the list, but that's only to avoid an endless
growing Cc list, not for spam reasons)
> > With this version of mailman it means the sender may get two copies
> > of the answer, but there are some ways to solve this minor
> > inconvenience (see the URL above) and a mailman upgrade can take
> > care of that too.
> All involving mangling the subscription list on a per-mail base,
> resulting in loss of messages, mainly to addresses directly involved
> in the discussion taking place. Hence better not do such things.
No. The options are:
1) you remove dupe messages by Message Id on your side
2) the list sees you are already Cced and doesn't send you the list copy
(mailman 2.1 beta does that)
> I know situations where it is not allowed (and in the system restricted) to
> send messages to just anyone on the internet. Target addresses of mail
In 8 years of being a sysadmin, I've never ever seen or heard of that.
Not to say it can't exist, but it surely isn't widespread.
(and just to say I have a little experience with mailing lists and that
at least I know the technicalities behind this discussion, I've admined
25,000 lists with about 300,000 subscribers, and contributed code to
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