Forced Shutdown of Windows NT/2K Systems

Alex K. Angelopoulos alex "at" bittnet.com
Tue, 26 Mar 2002 14:03:17 +0000


I've heard nothing else about the service dependencies concept from anyone;
that's one of the reasons why I posted the comments about forced shutdowns.

It isn't pretty from a Windows perspective, but it is an immediate solution
that will work for NT and Win2K users.


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Roland Elliott" <John_Roland_Elliott "at" hotmail.com>
To: <vnc-list "at" uk.research.att.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 2002-03-26 07:42
Subject: Re: Forced Shutdown of Windows NT/2K Systems


> Isn't anyone else at least a little disappointed with these
> "shutdown-and-I-really-mean-it-this-time-comma-dammit" approaches? When
> there are processes running on my machines that don't or can't honor
> shutdown requests, I kinda wanna know about it.
>
> I have some vague memory of someone mentioning services dependencies when
> this topic last appeared here. Has anyone had any success specifying that
> everything that the VNC service doesn't depend on depends on the VNC
> service? Wouldn't this postpone VNC's shutdown as late as practical in the
> shutdown sequence? Or maybe this would weave VNC too tightly into the
system
> tapestry for most people's tastes.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alex K. Angelopoulos" <alex "at" bittnet.com>
> To: <vnc-list "at" uk.research.att.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 6:18 PM
> Subject: Forced Shutdown of Windows NT/2K Systems
>
>
> > As a general rule, I would suggest that it is a good idea to get a
> shutdown
> > tool installed for NT4 and Win2k, and then use that when it is necessary
> to
> > do a remote reboot - the point made earlier by Mike Miller and Tony
Caduto
> > about the lack of an integral tool for forcing shutdown produces
> significant
> > issues with remote administration.
> >
> > (This actually reminds me of an old Mark Minasi line.  At seminars he
used
> > to say that you need one specific tool for remote administration of
> Windows
> > NT: a plane ticket.)
> >
> > I would suggest that part of the NT install/config process for
> > administrators should involve adding specific small tools.  When setting
> up
> > remote control on NT 4/2000, I would suggest getting Sysinternals'
> > psshutdown and putting it on the system.  It's a 14KiB free download.
URL
> > for it is:
> >
> > http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/psshutdown.shtml
> >
> >
> > A good general command line to use for it is:
> >
> > psshutdown -f -r -l
> >
> > *DO NOT* forget the -r.
> > -f forces shutdown; -r says to reboot after shutdown; -l specifies the
> local
> > system.  It defaults to waiting 20 seconds before rebooting, and can be
> > aborted via
> >
> > psshutdown -a
> >
> > I've made it a practice in the past to put a batch file with the
standard
> > options in my path so I could quickly access it.  On systems with
> > significant resource starvation I even include a couple of preliminary
> lines
> > which shut dwon the print spooler, IIS, and  any other standard
> non-critical
> > but memory-hungry services before initiating shutdown - then *always*
> > rebooted via the batch file.
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