disabled wallpaper feature

chenks@tiscali.co.uk chenks "at" tiscali.co.uk
Mon, 14 Jan 2002 13:11:09 +0000


yes we thought about that... but apparently there is some health and safety 
law that says users must be able to change the background etc...
 

 

Andrew Cornish writes: 

> I think the easiest Answer is just turn the wallpaper off all the machines
> hence vnc can not turn the wallpaper off if there is none to turn off 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-vnc-list "at" uk.research.att.com
> [mailto:owner-vnc-list "at" uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of
> chenks "at" tiscali.co.uk
> Sent: 14 January 2002 12:29
> To: vnc-list "at" uk.research.att.com
> Subject: Re: disabled wallpaper feature 
> 
> 
> as i said before it would be a viewing only... so i wouldn't be able to take
> control of the PC... just see what was on the screen at the time. 
> 
> if you didn't know the answer in the first place, why did you bother wasting
> not my time but your own time by replying. 
> 
> as this is a call centre environment where telephone calls are monitored we
> are extending this to PC usage as well.. where no personal use of the PCs is
> allowed at all (this included during lunch, after hours etc), but as i said
> it is VIEW mode only, and not in control mode. 
> 
> finally, why did u bother to comment on the website... this is a VNC mailing
> list and whether or not the web design appeals to you as an individual is of
> no real interest to either myself or the rest of the users on this list (i
> suspect this to be the case). 
> 
> thankyou for you correspondance, however, it will be filed approptiately 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> David Colliver writes: 
> 
>> Hi, 
>>
>> I don't want to get into a flame war with this. I don't know how to do the
>> wallpaper feature, however, I believe you will be treading on dodgy ground
>> if you apply this. 
>>
>> Sure, you can have a policy in place, but the workforce have a legal
> right.
>> You can log information, but you cannot read their emails without a court
>> order. The same as with spying. (You mentioned that the wallpaper
>> disappearing defeats the object). Your workforce have a right to privacy.
> If
>> it is used as an admin tool, then why do you need to stop the wallpaper
>> changing? How do your workforce know of they are being watched? It may be
> in
>> your policy, but it is not within the law. 
>>
>> Many people will use full screen, so they won't see the wallpaper change
>> anyway. Non savvy users will not know that wallpaper being removed is due
> to
>> them being spied upon. 
>>
>> Sure, you can use the logs as evidence, read emails with a court order,
> but
>> if it is internet pages you are looking for, then just look in the
> temporary
>> internet files folder or their history. (You would be treading on dodgy
>> ground with this as well). 
>>
>> Your users will need to give their permission which cannot be obtained
> user
>> duress (such as a contract of employment) to view their screens. Many
>> companies allow their PCs to be used during lunchtime or after work. These
>> can be for updating CVs, personal email (web mail, such as what you are
>> doing right now) or writing intimate love letters. 
>>
>> If you have proxy logs telling you that someone is looking at unsavoury
>> sites, then you may be able to gather more evidence after the event, such
> as
>> looking at the web-cache. (Incidentally, the proxy usually caches as
> well).
>>
>> Personally, If I was asked by a company to do this, I would refuse, even
> if
>> it meant my contract. This is violating your rights and would be enough
> for
>> a case of unfair dismissal. It would also mean that you could be very well
>> implicated in a legal argument for being a party to this. I have actually
>> gone as far as saying no to a company on a project on the grounds of data
>> protection, which the companies own data protection people upheld. 
>>
>> Get legal advice to do what your company are asking you to do. 
>>
>> Incidentally, the flash on your website is distracting. In my opinion, it
>> doesn't do anything to enhance your site. 
>>
>> Regards.
>> Dave Colliver. 
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <chenks "at" tiscali.co.uk>
>> To: <vnc-list "at" uk.research.att.com>
>> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 11:26 AM
>> Subject: Re: disabled wallpaper feature 
>>
>>
>>> What information would u like to know.... 
>>>
>>> We have included VNC within all the windows 2000 desktops within the
>> company
>>> as a remote admin tool. As part of the acceptable use policy within the
>>> company the users know what they can and can't do on the company PCs. The
>>> icon is running in the task-bar so they know that the PCs can be
> monitored
>>> or connected to as and when required. 
>>>
>>> We are wanting to use this combined with the proxy logs to enforce
>>> acceptable use of company resources. 
>>>
>>> I see you have questioned where i sent the email from. Well obviously I
> am
>>> not subscribed to the VNC mailing using my corporate email account that
> is
>>> why I sent it from my home account. 
>>>
>>> However, if you wish to contact me using my corporate account then feel
>> free
>>> to email me on sgray "at" omneuk.com. 
>>>
>>> All I am asking is how to enable a feature of the software that was a
>>> default option in previous versions. Nothing too sinister in that 
>>>
>>>
>>> David Colliver writes: 
>>>
>>> > I would be wary of this.
>>> >
>>> > 1. The email address is from a free internet provider.
>>> > 2. If he has the icon turned off as well as this, then it may be for
>> more
>>> > suspicious activity.
>>> > 3. As I understand, this sort of workplace monitoring is illegal in the
>> UK.
>>> > Only authorised connections, where the user is aware of the connection
>>> > happening, and has given permission (i.e. for fault finding) is
> allowed.
>>> >
>>> > Methinks this is not quite legitimate. I don't know how to do it, but
>> even
>>> > if I did, before I would give any answers, I would need more
>> information.
>>> >
>>> > Regards.
>>> > David Colliver.
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: <chenks "at" tiscali.co.uk>
>>> > To: <vnc-list "at" uk.research.att.com>
>>> > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 10:12 AM
>>> > Subject: disabled wallpaper feature
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> i am using v3.3.3r9
>>> >>
>>> >> i know that it disables the wallpaper on the pc i am connecting to..
>> and
>>> >> then enables it again when i disconnect..
>>> >>
>>> >> the question is.. how do i disable this feature so that the wallpaper
>>> >> doesn't get turned off at all ?
>>> >>
>>> >> the reason i ask is that we use VNC to monitor users dekstops and at
>> the
>>> >> moment they know when we do it as the wallpaper changes... we would
>> prefer
>>> >> them not to know this as it kinda defeats the purpose of using it as a
>>> >> monitoring tool.
>>> >>
>>> >> i had a look at the vnc website and it mentions a registry tweek, but
> i
>>> >> wasn't sure what exactly to do there... can anyone give a step-by-step
>>> > guide
>>> >> to do this ??
>>> >>
>>> >> thanx
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