disabled wallpaper feature

David Colliver david.colliver "at" revilloc.com
Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:58:20 +0000


Fair enough. What can I say.

I was trying to help you from being the target of legal proceedings, but you
obviously do not care. Wether I knew how to fix it or not, the issue was
designed to help you to not be sued. Why should I care any further. I only
commented on the web site at the end, but that is my personal opinion.
Granted, nothing to do with the list.

Wether it is view or control, it is still illegal if the user is not aware
of the fact that they are being watched. Would the company be happy for you
to see your annual report as the secretary is typing it up? Would you be
happy that anyone else could see your annual report? Would the management be
happy that helpdesk could watch management in confidence reports being typed
up?

For this, you do not need for the screen to remain the same background.

I am afraid that with what you have said so far doesn't quite add up. All I
can suggest is that your company pay you to go onto a course to hack the
registry. I could help if I see the hack, but where workforce and data
protection rights are involved. I will not be a party to it, and I suggest
anyone else here should also resist it.

Regards.
Dave Colliver.
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----- Original Message -----
From: <chenks "at" tiscali.co.uk>
To: <vnc-list "at" uk.research.att.com>
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: disabled wallpaper feature


> as i said before it would be a viewing only... so i wouldn't be able to
take
> control of the PC... just see what was on the screen at the time.
>
> if you didn't know the answer in the first place, why did you bother
wasting
> not my time but your own time by replying.
>
> as this is a call centre environment where telephone calls are monitored
we
> are extending this to PC usage as well.. where no personal use of the PCs
is
> allowed at all (this included during lunch, after hours etc), but as i
said
> it is VIEW mode only, and not in control mode.
>
> finally, why did u bother to comment on the website... this is a VNC
mailing
> list and whether or not the web design appeals to you as an individual is
of
> no real interest to either myself or the rest of the users on this list (i
> suspect this to be the case).
>
> thankyou for you correspondance, however, it will be filed approptiately
>
>
>
>
> David Colliver writes:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I don't want to get into a flame war with this. I don't know how to do
the
> > wallpaper feature, however, I believe you will be treading on dodgy
ground
> > if you apply this.
> >
> > Sure, you can have a policy in place, but the workforce have a legal
right.
> > You can log information, but you cannot read their emails without a
court
> > order. The same as with spying. (You mentioned that the wallpaper
> > disappearing defeats the object). Your workforce have a right to
privacy. If
> > it is used as an admin tool, then why do you need to stop the wallpaper
> > changing? How do your workforce know of they are being watched? It may
be in
> > your policy, but it is not within the law.
> >
> > Many people will use full screen, so they won't see the wallpaper change
> > anyway. Non savvy users will not know that wallpaper being removed is
due to
> > them being spied upon.
> >
> > Sure, you can use the logs as evidence, read emails with a court order,
but
> > if it is internet pages you are looking for, then just look in the
temporary
> > internet files folder or their history. (You would be treading on dodgy
> > ground with this as well).
> >
> > Your users will need to give their permission which cannot be obtained
user
> > duress (such as a contract of employment) to view their screens. Many
> > companies allow their PCs to be used during lunchtime or after work.
These
> > can be for updating CVs, personal email (web mail, such as what you are
> > doing right now) or writing intimate love letters.
> >
> > If you have proxy logs telling you that someone is looking at unsavoury
> > sites, then you may be able to gather more evidence after the event,
such as
> > looking at the web-cache. (Incidentally, the proxy usually caches as
well).
> >
> > Personally, If I was asked by a company to do this, I would refuse, even
if
> > it meant my contract. This is violating your rights and would be enough
for
> > a case of unfair dismissal. It would also mean that you could be very
well
> > implicated in a legal argument for being a party to this. I have
actually
> > gone as far as saying no to a company on a project on the grounds of
data
> > protection, which the companies own data protection people upheld.
> >
> > Get legal advice to do what your company are asking you to do.
> >
> > Incidentally, the flash on your website is distracting. In my opinion,
it
> > doesn't do anything to enhance your site.
> >
> > Regards.
> > Dave Colliver.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <chenks "at" tiscali.co.uk>
> > To: <vnc-list "at" uk.research.att.com>
> > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 11:26 AM
> > Subject: Re: disabled wallpaper feature
> >
> >
> >> What information would u like to know....
> >>
> >> We have included VNC within all the windows 2000 desktops within the
> > company
> >> as a remote admin tool. As part of the acceptable use policy within the
> >> company the users know what they can and can't do on the company PCs.
The
> >> icon is running in the task-bar so they know that the PCs can be
monitored
> >> or connected to as and when required.
> >>
> >> We are wanting to use this combined with the proxy logs to enforce
> >> acceptable use of company resources.
> >>
> >> I see you have questioned where i sent the email from. Well obviously I
am
> >> not subscribed to the VNC mailing using my corporate email account that
is
> >> why I sent it from my home account.
> >>
> >> However, if you wish to contact me using my corporate account then feel
> > free
> >> to email me on sgray "at" omneuk.com.
> >>
> >> All I am asking is how to enable a feature of the software that was a
> >> default option in previous versions. Nothing too sinister in that
> >>
> >>
> >> David Colliver writes:
> >>
> >> > I would be wary of this.
> >> >
> >> > 1. The email address is from a free internet provider.
> >> > 2. If he has the icon turned off as well as this, then it may be for
> > more
> >> > suspicious activity.
> >> > 3. As I understand, this sort of workplace monitoring is illegal in
the
> > UK.
> >> > Only authorised connections, where the user is aware of the
connection
> >> > happening, and has given permission (i.e. for fault finding) is
allowed.
> >> >
> >> > Methinks this is not quite legitimate. I don't know how to do it, but
> > even
> >> > if I did, before I would give any answers, I would need more
> > information.
> >> >
> >> > Regards.
> >> > David Colliver.
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: <chenks "at" tiscali.co.uk>
> >> > To: <vnc-list "at" uk.research.att.com>
> >> > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 10:12 AM
> >> > Subject: disabled wallpaper feature
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> i am using v3.3.3r9
> >> >>
> >> >> i know that it disables the wallpaper on the pc i am connecting to..
> > and
> >> >> then enables it again when i disconnect..
> >> >>
> >> >> the question is.. how do i disable this feature so that the
wallpaper
> >> >> doesn't get turned off at all ?
> >> >>
> >> >> the reason i ask is that we use VNC to monitor users dekstops and at
> > the
> >> >> moment they know when we do it as the wallpaper changes... we would
> > prefer
> >> >> them not to know this as it kinda defeats the purpose of using it as
a
> >> >> monitoring tool.
> >> >>
> >> >> i had a look at the vnc website and it mentions a registry tweek,
but i
> >> >> wasn't sure what exactly to do there... can anyone give a
step-by-step
> >> > guide
> >> >> to do this ??
> >> >>
> >> >> thanx
> >>
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