Throwout when logging in - Win98SE

Alex Angelopoulos alex "at" bittnet.com
Tue, 08 Jan 2002 11:38:13 +0000


OK, it appears that my statement about the quirk was due to a brain freeze on my part back when ;).

With VNC 3.3.9 running as a service on NT4SP6a, I never have had a problem with being forced off when I "log on" to the machine. In
other words, suppose the machine hasbeen rebooted.  I log on via VNC, and am faced with the NT login screen.  I can log in to NT and
go right to work without the NT session being disconnected and forcing me to log back in as it switches to a "user" setting.

I suppose it is possible that this is due to it running as a service, but at one point I did not have the VNC password in the local
account I used meshed with the "default" password - consequently, I still had to log on via VNC with different passwords depending
on whether the machine had been logged in locally or not.

All else being equal, I still tend to think that Phil's problem is a different "default" resolution on his machine. WIll be
interesting to see what actually happens when he checks it out.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Angelopoulos" <alex "at" bittnet.com>
To: <vnc-list "at" uk.research.att.com>
Sent: Tuesday/2002 January 08 05:54
Subject: Re: Throwout when logging in - Win98SE


: Now that's an interesting idea Martin.
:
: Other than the resolution change issue, I have never had that problem with VNC, but I have had a "difficult" time getting it to
: understand that it has a password set for both what I refer to as "machine" mode and "user" mode - so I am going to make no
: judgments
:
: I *am* posting a separate followon, though, detailing my little oddity...
:
: ----- Original Message -----
: From: "Martin Kemp" <martin "at" quintic.co.uk>
: To: <vnc-list "at" uk.research.att.com>
: Sent: Tuesday/2002 January 08 05:34
: Subject: RE: Throwout when logging in - Win98SE
:
:
: : Phil, I assume by 'mode change' problem you mean what Alex is describing -
: : the change of resolution after login?
: :
: : Using the sequence Alex described:
: : (a) log on via VNC
: : (b) enter your Windows machine/network password
: : (c) you get disconnected/reconnected
: :
: : What's usually happening here is that you're logging in first with the VNC
: : service, but once you've logged in your VNC session will get chucked out.
: : You then need to log into VNC again as the user you've just logged in as in
: : windows (possibly with a different password - at least on win2k, which I
: : use).
: :
: : Therefore, to my knowledge it is not possible to use VNC to log into your
: : machine AND use the same VNC session to use the machine once you've logged
: : in. That's certainly my experience with VNC anyway.
: :
: : regards,
: :
: : Martin Kemp
: :
: : > -----Original Message-----
: : > From: owner-vnc-list "at" uk.research.att.com
: : > [mailto:owner-vnc-list "at" uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Alex
: : > Angelopoulos
: : > Sent: 08 January 2002 2:32
: : > To: vnc-list "at" uk.research.att.com
: : > Subject: Re: Throwout when logging in - Win98SE
: : >
: : >
: : > A couple of things to check here...
: : >
: : > (1) Does this occur immediately after a windows logon? IN other
: : > words, is this the sequence -
: : > (a) log on via VNC
: : > (b) enter your Windows machine/network password
: : > (c) you get disconnected/reconnected
: : >
: : > (2) if (1) is the case - it is quite possible that the "default"
: : > display settings which Windows is using are different from the
: : > settings associated with your user profile. This default setting
: : > is usually 480x640 or 600x800 - usually given away from the screen
: : > being dominated by the logon box.  Here's a possible way to fix
: : > that (please let us know if it does the trick).
: : >
: : > (a) Log on to VNC as normal
: : > (b) hit "cancel" at your Windows logon; this will log you on with
: : > the "default" settings.
: : > (c) adjust the Windows display settings to match what you use for
: : > your regular Windows logon - at which point you will be
: : > disconnected of course..
: : > (d) after you log back on, you should see that at boot Windows
: : > comes up 1024x768x32.
: : >
: : >
: : > ----- Original Message -----
: : > From: "Phil Reynolds" <phil "at" tinsleyviaduct.com>
: : > To: <vnc-list "at" uk.research.att.com>
: : > Sent: Monday/2002 January 07 19:44
: : > Subject: Throwout when logging in - Win98SE
: : >
: : >
: : > : I am getting thrown out of my VNC session to my Windows box at
: : > login. I can
: : > : subsequently reconnect.
: : > :
: : > : I have read about the "mode change" issue, but have been
: : > completely unable
: : > : to resolve this, despite changing modes as necessary.
: : > :
: : > : I run my Windows system in 1024x768 (largest size practical to
: : > display on
: : > : the monitor from which I tend to use this machine remotely) in
: : > either 24 or
: : > : 32 bit colour. I have tried both settings.
: : > :
: : > : The machine has a Matrox Millennium II PCI card. The problem
: : > occurs regardless
: : > : of whether Matrox Power Desk is loaded.
: : > :
: : > : My questions are:
: : > :
: : > : (i) Why am I getting thrown out if it is not (as it appears not
: : > to be) the
: : > :     mode issue?
: : > :
: : > : (ii) Does running Matrox Power Desk affect VNC?
: : > :
: : > : --
: : > : Phil Reynolds
: : > :  o  ____ Internet: phil "at" tinsleyviaduct.com
: : > : |L_ \  / Web: http://www.tinsleyviaduct.com/phil/
: : > : (_)- \/  Waltham 67, Emley Moor 69, Droitwich 79, Windows 95
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