From John_Roland_Elliott@Hotmail.com Sat Sep 1 00:14:03 2001 From: John_Roland_Elliott@Hotmail.com (John Roland Elliott) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 23:14:03 +0000 Subject: Undocumented port in use by VNCviewer in Listen Mode? References: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E511267D@CFJH> Message-ID: Roy, Pete, Zoran, Zalman, and all --- Thanks for considering my poorly posed question and thanks for your theories. Let me try my question again, a little more precisely and completely stated this time. The FAQ (http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/faq.html#q52) states, and I have observed, that the VNC server listens on port 5900+n (where n is the "display number") and that when the VNC viewer initiates a session with the server, it does so through that port. The FAQ (http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/faq.html#q52) states, and I have observed, that the VNC server listens on port 5800+n (where n is the "display number") and, on that port, answers as a minimalist web server which delivers the java implementation of the VNC viewer. Once the (java) VNC viewer is delivered to the machine that is to act as viewer, the java VNC viewer communicates with the VNC server through port 5900+n, just like the non-java VNC viewer. Ports 5900+n and 5800+n are open on machines running a VNC server (WinVNC, e.g.) and the (java or non-java) VNC viewer connects only to 5900+n. 5800+n is used only to fetch the java viewer (vncviewer.class in vncviewer.jar) from the machine running the VNC server. It is my understanding that the viewer, once it is loaded, regardless of how it is loaded, communicates with the server through the server's port 5900+n. I don't think that 5800+n is used as a control channel, or anything other than fetching the java client. I conclude this by configuring a firewall that defends the machine running the VNC server. When I configure it to drop inbound traffic on port 5800 I can successfully establish a VNC session from the other side of the firewall using the non-java VNC viewer. Further, I conducted the following experiment: 1) on the firewall between my viewer and server, I enabled 5800 (for loading the java VNC viewer) and disabled 5900 going from viewer to server 2) from my favorite java-capable web browser, I went to http://myVNCserver:5800 and got the VNC authentication page asking for a VNC password 3) at that point, I reconfigured my firewall to disable 5800 (the viewer is already loaded in the virtual machine of the machine that is to be viewer) and enable 5900 (so that the viewer could do something constructive) going from viewer to server 4) back at my web browser, which was still displaying the VNC authentication page, I entered the VNC password and established a session (without access to 5800 on the server but with 5900 on the server accessible) This experiment convinced me that a) 5800 is necessary and sufficient to load the java VNC viewer (i.e., 5900 is not needed for *loading* and *starting* the java VNC viewer) and b) 5900 is necessary and sufficient for the (java) VNC viewer (i.e., 5800 is not needed for *running* the VNC viewer, even the java one). I stress that 5800+n and 5900+n are VNC server ports. Those ports are not open on the VNC viewer machine (unless it is also running VNC server.) The FAQ (http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/faq.html#q52) states, and I have observed, that the VNC viewer (not server) listens on port 5500. When, from a VNC server, you "Add New Client", the server initiates a session with the viewer through the viewer's port 5500. In this mode of operation, the viewer does not use the server's 5900+n, which would have been used if the viewer had initiated the connection; I suspect, but I haven't confirmed, that the server continues to talk to the viewer's port 5500 and the viewer talks to the port that the server opened in order to call the viewer. So, I think I understand 5500, 5800+n, and 5900+n, but I'm still mystified by 5400. What I know is: 1) it is created on the viewer machine when I "Run VNCviewer (Listen Mode)" 2) it is destroyed on the viewer machine when I "Close listening daemon" 3) it is unused (or at least not required) during the conventional operation (viewer initiates the connection) 4) it is unused (or at least not required) by the java VNC viewer What I would like to know is does it serve any function whatsoever. In exchange for this knowledge I am prepared to offer my eternal gratitude and undying devotion. I really don't want to have to try to read the source (what is it? ... Object Oriented COBOL? ... "ADD-1-TO-COBOL-GIVING-COBOL"?) Regards, JRE P.S. One last clue: If, on the machine that has "Run VNCviewer (Listen Mode)", I go to http://localhost:5400, briefly, in maybe 36-point text, I see "plication/vnd.ms-excel, applica" at the top of the screen. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zalman Margareten" To: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 12:39 PM Subject: RE: Undocumented port in use by VNCviewer in Listen Mode? > Are u trying to imply that it will establish the connection with port 5400 > and then hand it over to 5500? I can understand this with the "regular" > connection that is initiated from the viewer where it will send a sync to > 5800 and then establish a connection with 5900. But how do u explain it with > the "listener" method where it starts with 5500 according to my ( netstat -n > readings )? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roy Long [mailto:roy@ncitech.com] > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 9:46 AM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: Undocumented port in use by VNCviewer in Listen Mode? > > > >The documentation indicates that VNCviewer in Listen Mode uses port 5500. > It > >appears that when I start VNCviewer in Listen Mode, my machine also listens > >on port 5400, at least my Windows 2000 machine does. After stopping Listen > >Mode, both 5500 and 5400 are closed. I have set my firewall to block 5400 > >and allow 5500 and it seems to continue to work. > > > >As port 5400 is associated with the Blade Runner Trojan, I was a little > >alarmed to discover it open on one of my machines. > > > >Can anyone provide any illumination on the subject of VNC's use of port > >5400? > > I believe 5400 is the java web browser port for the viewer, just like > 5800 works for the java web browser port on the "normal" VNC server. > -- > Roy Long - KB3CZD > Computer Technician > NCI Technologies > 126 N. 2nd Street > Philipsburg PA 16866 > > roy@ncitech.com > > > > > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > Version: 3.12 > GO@ d-@ s: a- C++ C--- U+++ P+ L++>$ E--- W+ N+ w > M++$ PS PE+ PGP+ t+ 5 X R- tv b+ DI++ D G h--- r+++ y--(+++) > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ccah@thegreen.co.uk Sat Sep 1 01:02:33 2001 From: ccah@thegreen.co.uk (Ceri Hankey) Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 00:02:33 +0000 Subject: SOCKS 5 support added to Win32 VNC Viewer References: <20010829203929.44975.qmail@web20303.mail.yahoo.com> <3B8D8BC1.11D52F86@Seanster.com> <000e01c131a6$a6294820$6764a8c0@ceri4> <7k1uotc5eispmh9b65ked80aij1ch3dl5a@4ax.com> Message-ID: <005001c13270$69c7c3f0$6764a8c0@ceri4> Sorry, but my proxy server tells me for the nth time ... Error : Can't connect to host www.google.com on port 80! Reason : Connect timeout. Error detected by WinProxy 1.4 If you can mail it to me at ceri_hankey@wanadoo.fr Thank you very much! Regards Ceri Hankey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Seanster" To: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 5:57 AM Subject: Re: SOCKS 5 support added to Win32 VNC Viewer > Just a brief net outage. I can mail it if anyone has trouble beyond that. > -Sean > > > On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 00:51:38 +0200, you wrote: > > >I cannot get thru to your site ... > >http://www.Seanster.com/vnc/ > > > >Can you give another source for your stuff? > > > >Thanks > > > >Ceri Hankey > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spencer@silcom.com Sat Sep 1 02:24:03 2001 From: spencer@silcom.com (spencer) Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 01:24:03 +0000 Subject: VNC NTServer VPN Message-ID: <000001c1327b$4fbc9610$64c8690a@Carola> I am trying to use VNC to access a Windows NT Server (Backup Domain Controller, BDC). I am accessing the BDC via an all Microsoft VPN. I have RAS on the Server and use the PPTP protocol to connect. I can connect to the server (and have been doing this for some time now). Here is my setup. Corporate- NT Server, BDC running behind a Linksys BEFSR41 nat router. Public IP on the Wan side of the Linksys router. Forwarding ports 80, 25, 110, and 1723 (for Linksys to work with VPN) to the 192.168.xxx.xxx NT BDC. Remote- NT Workstation, running behind a Linksys BEFSR41 nat router, dynamic public IP (which has not changed in months). The Problem: I have loaded WinVNC onto that server and can use the Win 98 client viewer while on the local LAN. However, when on the remote NT Workstation I can successfully connect to Corporate, but I cannot successfully run the WinNT VNC client. I can enter the IP address of the remote machine, I get prompted for a password and the remote screen initiates, then turns all black, and then shuts down. Question: Has anyone successfully connected VNC via a VPN tunnel of any type, and specifically the type described above. Thank you in advance. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From martin.sarter@web.de Sat Sep 1 18:36:45 2001 From: martin.sarter@web.de (Martin Sarter) Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 17:36:45 +0000 Subject: KDE again In-Reply-To: <001b01c12f87$4fa21fc0$0100000a@home.net> Message-ID: Hi, I searched the archive, watched the mailing list for several weeks, followed the usual hints (modifying xsetup, setting -depth to the appropriate) but KDE still isn't working with VNC. All I get is a vncviewer window with a konsole and the KDE background color but no icons, no background image, no task bar, no window elements to the konsole. I have SuSE 7.1 running. Any hints? Martin. Here's the log: --------------------------------- 01/09/01 17:02:51 Xvnc version 3.3.3r1 01/09/01 17:02:51 Copyright (C) AT&T Laboratories Cambridge. 01/09/01 17:02:51 All Rights Reserved. 01/09/01 17:02:51 See http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc for information on VNC 01/09/01 17:02:51 Desktop name 'X' (linux:1) 01/09/01 17:02:51 Protocol version supported 3.3 01/09/01 17:02:51 Listening for VNC connections on TCP port 5901 01/09/01 17:02:51 Listening for HTTP connections on TCP port 5801 01/09/01 17:02:51 URL http://linux:5801 --------------------------------- It looks like dcopserver is already running. If you are sure that it is not already running, remove /root/.DCOPserver_linux and start dcopserver again. --------------------------------- kdesktop is already running! KDE Daemon (kded) already running. Could not load library! Trying exec.... Launched ok, pid = 1011 Server has no DPMS extension There are already artsd objects registered, looking if they are active... ERROR: kicker is already running! klipper is already running! Error: Can't add object reference (probably artsd is already running). If you are sure it is not already running, remove the relevant files: /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_SimpleSoundServer /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_PlayObjectFactory /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_AudioManager kwrited is already running.ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error! QSocketNotifier: Multiple socket notifiers for same socket 6 and type read 01/09/01 17:04:15 Got connection from client 127.0.0.1 01/09/01 17:04:16 Protocol version 3.3 01/09/01 17:04:22 Pixel format for client 127.0.0.1: 01/09/01 17:04:22 32 bpp, depth 24, little endian 01/09/01 17:04:22 true colour: max r 255 g 255 b 255, shift r 16 g 8 b 0 01/09/01 17:04:22 Using raw encoding for client 127.0.0.1 --------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From petasis@iit.demokritos.gr Sat Sep 1 18:53:04 2001 From: petasis@iit.demokritos.gr (Georgios Petasis) Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 17:53:04 +0000 Subject: KDE again References: Message-ID: <002701c13305$7ccf54a0$0103e98f@aias> That is very strange. I use both KDE 1.x and 2.x under VNC in both solaris and linux with no problems. I will suggest that you kill your VNC server, kill all KDE processes, start a new VNC server without loading anything in it, set the proper display variable and type "startkde". What is then happening? Make sure that nothing is run in the server before you run startkde, not even a window manager... George > Hi, > > I searched the archive, watched the mailing list for several weeks, followed > the usual hints (modifying xsetup, setting -depth to the appropriate) but > KDE still isn't working with VNC. All I get is a vncviewer window with a > konsole and the KDE background color but no icons, no background image, no > task bar, no window elements to the konsole. I have SuSE 7.1 running. > > Any hints? > > Martin. > > Here's the log: > --------------------------------- > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Xvnc version 3.3.3r1 > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Copyright (C) AT&T Laboratories Cambridge. > 01/09/01 17:02:51 All Rights Reserved. > 01/09/01 17:02:51 See http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc for information on > VNC > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Desktop name 'X' (linux:1) > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Protocol version supported 3.3 > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Listening for VNC connections on TCP port 5901 > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Listening for HTTP connections on TCP port 5801 > 01/09/01 17:02:51 URL http://linux:5801 > --------------------------------- > It looks like dcopserver is already running. If you are sure > that it is not already running, remove /root/.DCOPserver_linux > and start dcopserver again. > --------------------------------- > > kdesktop is already running! > KDE Daemon (kded) already running. > Could not load library! Trying exec.... > Launched ok, pid = 1011 > Server has no DPMS extension > There are already artsd objects registered, looking if they are active... > ERROR: kicker is already running! > klipper is already running! > > Error: Can't add object reference (probably artsd is already running). > If you are sure it is not already running, remove the relevant files: > > /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_SimpleSoundServer > /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_PlayObjectFactory > /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_AudioManager > > kwrited is already running.ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication > error! > QSocketNotifier: Multiple socket notifiers for same socket 6 and type read > > 01/09/01 17:04:15 Got connection from client 127.0.0.1 > 01/09/01 17:04:16 Protocol version 3.3 > 01/09/01 17:04:22 Pixel format for client 127.0.0.1: > 01/09/01 17:04:22 32 bpp, depth 24, little endian > 01/09/01 17:04:22 true colour: max r 255 g 255 b 255, shift r 16 g 8 b 0 > 01/09/01 17:04:22 Using raw encoding for client 127.0.0.1 > --------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sczjd@yahoo.com Sat Sep 1 20:05:45 2001 From: sczjd@yahoo.com (SI Reasoning) Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 19:05:45 +0000 Subject: KDE again In-Reply-To: <002701c13305$7ccf54a0$0103e98f@aias> Message-ID: <20010901180055.13660.qmail@web9503.mail.yahoo.com> I had to set the default color to 24 instead of 8 to get kde programs to work properly. I did it by editing /usr/bin/vncserver. --- Georgios Petasis wrote: > That is very strange. I use both KDE 1.x and 2.x > under VNC in both > solaris and linux with no problems. > I will suggest that you kill your VNC server, > kill all KDE processes, start a new VNC server > without loading anything > in it, set the proper display variable and type > "startkde". > What is then happening? > Make sure that nothing is run in the server before > you run startkde, > not even a window manager... > > George > > > Hi, > > > > I searched the archive, watched the mailing list > for several weeks, > followed > > the usual hints (modifying xsetup, setting -depth > to the appropriate) but > > KDE still isn't working with VNC. All I get is a > vncviewer window with a > > konsole and the KDE background color but no icons, > no background image, no > > task bar, no window elements to the konsole. I > have SuSE 7.1 running. > > > > Any hints? > > > > Martin. > > > > Here's the log: > > --------------------------------- > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Xvnc version 3.3.3r1 > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Copyright (C) AT&T Laboratories > Cambridge. > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 All Rights Reserved. > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 See > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc for information > on > > VNC > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Desktop name 'X' (linux:1) > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Protocol version supported 3.3 > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Listening for VNC connections on > TCP port 5901 > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Listening for HTTP connections > on TCP port 5801 > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 URL http://linux:5801 > > --------------------------------- > > It looks like dcopserver is already running. If > you are sure > > that it is not already running, remove > /root/.DCOPserver_linux > > and start dcopserver again. > > --------------------------------- > > > > kdesktop is already running! > > KDE Daemon (kded) already running. > > Could not load library! Trying exec.... > > Launched ok, pid = 1011 > > Server has no DPMS extension > > There are already artsd objects registered, > looking if they are active... > > ERROR: kicker is already running! > > klipper is already running! > > > > Error: Can't add object reference (probably artsd > is already running). > > If you are sure it is not already running, > remove the relevant > files: > > > > /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_SimpleSoundServer > > /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_PlayObjectFactory > > /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_AudioManager > > > > kwrited is already running.ERROR: > KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication > > error! > > QSocketNotifier: Multiple socket notifiers for > same socket 6 and type read > > > > 01/09/01 17:04:15 Got connection from client > 127.0.0.1 > > 01/09/01 17:04:16 Protocol version 3.3 > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 Pixel format for client > 127.0.0.1: > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 32 bpp, depth 24, little > endian > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 true colour: max r 255 g 255 b > 255, shift r 16 g 8 b 0 > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 Using raw encoding for client > 127.0.0.1 > > --------------------------------- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== SI Reasoning sczjd@yahoo.com gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sbest@best.com Sun Sep 2 04:33:14 2001 From: sbest@best.com (Scott C. Best) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 03:33:14 +0000 Subject: New user In-Reply-To: Message-ID: David: Hello! I like these easy ones. :) You cannot connect to the LAN from *outside* of the LAN because of the security provided by the device which is connecting that LAN to the Internet. Sometimes called a firewall/router, sometimes called a gateway, sometimes it's part of the DSL/Cable modem itself. Those things do (amoung other things) something called Network Address Translation, a process specified by RFC-1918. That address range you mention, 192.168.x.y is called a "private address range". So, as a packet travels from a network device to the Internet, the gateway device tranlates it into a "real", world routable IP address assigned by your ISP. So to connect to a VNC server behind one of these gateways, you have to point to this "external IP address", not the 192.168.x.y one. Write back with what sorta gateway device you're using and we can help more! -Scott > I have got WinVNC 3.3.3R9 running on my home network, between my old > computer and my new one. It links fine through my network cards and a > coaxial cable. > > I have now taken my old computer to a friends house and connected it to his > phone line, but I cannot now dial into it from my new computer at home. Nor > can he dial into my computer from there. I seem to have got all the > settings right, but when it dials his number, and it answers, my old > computer does not pick up the signal. What am I doing wrong? I am > searching on the IP number, which is 192.168.0.2 for the old computer and > 192.168.0.1 for the new computer, which works fine on the home network > through the cable connection but I have never got it working through a modem > connection. How do I ping the old computer? How do I telnet, whatever that > is? > > Similarly, I have set up a network of 5 PCs for a client in Birmingham, > which happily use Winvnc to communicate with each other. But I cannot dial > into their system from here, even though I have set up their system to allow > me to do so. > > Any ideas? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spencer@silcom.com Sun Sep 2 17:00:30 2001 From: spencer@silcom.com (spencer) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 16:00:30 +0000 Subject: New user References: Message-ID: <003c01c133bf$14edbf60$64c8690a@Carola> Scott, I have a similar issue as stated below. Do you have any suggestions? I am trying to use VNC to access a Windows NT Server (Backup Domain Controller, BDC). I am accessing the BDC via an all Microsoft VPN. I have RAS on the Server and use the PPTP protocol to connect. I can connect to the server (and have been doing this for some time now). Here is my setup. Corporate- NT Server, BDC running behind a Linksys BEFSR41 nat router. Public IP on the Wan side of the Linksys router. Forwarding ports 80, 25, 110, and 1723 (for Linksys to work with VPN) to the 192.168.xxx.xxx NT BDC. Remote- NT Workstation, running behind a Linksys BEFSR41 nat router, dynamic public IP (which has not changed in months). The Problem: I have loaded WinVNC onto that server and can use the Win 98 client viewer while on the local LAN. However, when on the remote NT Workstation I can successfully connect to Corporate, but I cannot successfully run the WinNT VNC client. I can enter the IP address of the remote machine, I get prompted for a password and the remote screen initiates, then turns all black, and then shuts down. Question: Has anyone successfully connected VNC via a VPN tunnel of any type, and specifically the type described above. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott C. Best" To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 7:24 PM Subject: Re: New user > David: > Hello! I like these easy ones. :) You cannot > connect to the LAN from *outside* of the LAN because > of the security provided by the device which is > connecting that LAN to the Internet. Sometimes called > a firewall/router, sometimes called a gateway, sometimes > it's part of the DSL/Cable modem itself. > Those things do (amoung other things) something > called Network Address Translation, a process specified > by RFC-1918. That address range you mention, 192.168.x.y > is called a "private address range". So, as a packet > travels from a network device to the Internet, the > gateway device tranlates it into a "real", world > routable IP address assigned by your ISP. > So to connect to a VNC server behind one of these > gateways, you have to point to this "external IP address", > not the 192.168.x.y one. Write back with what sorta gateway > device you're using and we can help more! > > -Scott > > > I have got WinVNC 3.3.3R9 running on my home network, between my old > > computer and my new one. It links fine through my network cards and a > > coaxial cable. > > > > I have now taken my old computer to a friends house and connected it to his > > phone line, but I cannot now dial into it from my new computer at home. Nor > > can he dial into my computer from there. I seem to have got all the > > settings right, but when it dials his number, and it answers, my old > > computer does not pick up the signal. What am I doing wrong? I am > > searching on the IP number, which is 192.168.0.2 for the old computer and > > 192.168.0.1 for the new computer, which works fine on the home network > > through the cable connection but I have never got it working through a modem > > connection. How do I ping the old computer? How do I telnet, whatever that > > is? > > > > Similarly, I have set up a network of 5 PCs for a client in Birmingham, > > which happily use Winvnc to communicate with each other. But I cannot dial > > into their system from here, even though I have set up their system to allow > > me to do so. > > > > Any ideas? > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From martin.sarter@web.de Sun Sep 2 19:54:14 2001 From: martin.sarter@web.de (Martin Sarter) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 18:54:14 +0000 Subject: KDE again In-Reply-To: <20010901180055.13660.qmail@web9503.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi, >I had to set the default color to 24 instead of 8 First modification I made. I can set -depth to 24 or 32, makes no difference. Martin. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of SI Reasoning > Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 8:01 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: KDE again > > > I had to set the default color to 24 instead of 8 to > get kde programs to work properly. I did it by editing > /usr/bin/vncserver. > --- Georgios Petasis > wrote: > > That is very strange. I use both KDE 1.x and 2.x > > under VNC in both > > solaris and linux with no problems. > > I will suggest that you kill your VNC server, > > kill all KDE processes, start a new VNC server > > without loading anything > > in it, set the proper display variable and type > > "startkde". > > What is then happening? > > Make sure that nothing is run in the server before > > you run startkde, > > not even a window manager... > > > > George > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I searched the archive, watched the mailing list > > for several weeks, > > followed > > > the usual hints (modifying xsetup, setting -depth > > to the appropriate) but > > > KDE still isn't working with VNC. All I get is a > > vncviewer window with a > > > konsole and the KDE background color but no icons, > > no background image, no > > > task bar, no window elements to the konsole. I > > have SuSE 7.1 running. > > > > > > Any hints? > > > > > > Martin. > > > > > > Here's the log: > > > --------------------------------- > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Xvnc version 3.3.3r1 > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Copyright (C) AT&T Laboratories > > Cambridge. > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 All Rights Reserved. > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 See > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc for information > > on > > > VNC > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Desktop name 'X' (linux:1) > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Protocol version supported 3.3 > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Listening for VNC connections on > > TCP port 5901 > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Listening for HTTP connections > > on TCP port 5801 > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 URL http://linux:5801 > > > --------------------------------- > > > It looks like dcopserver is already running. If > > you are sure > > > that it is not already running, remove > > /root/.DCOPserver_linux > > > and start dcopserver again. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > kdesktop is already running! > > > KDE Daemon (kded) already running. > > > Could not load library! Trying exec.... > > > Launched ok, pid = 1011 > > > Server has no DPMS extension > > > There are already artsd objects registered, > > looking if they are active... > > > ERROR: kicker is already running! > > > klipper is already running! > > > > > > Error: Can't add object reference (probably artsd > > is already running). > > > If you are sure it is not already running, > > remove the relevant > > files: > > > > > > /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_SimpleSoundServer > > > /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_PlayObjectFactory > > > /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_AudioManager > > > > > > kwrited is already running.ERROR: > > KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication > > > error! > > > QSocketNotifier: Multiple socket notifiers for > > same socket 6 and type read > > > > > > 01/09/01 17:04:15 Got connection from client > > 127.0.0.1 > > > 01/09/01 17:04:16 Protocol version 3.3 > > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 Pixel format for client > > 127.0.0.1: > > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 32 bpp, depth 24, little > > endian > > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 true colour: max r 255 g 255 b > > 255, shift r 16 g 8 b 0 > > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 Using raw encoding for client > > 127.0.0.1 > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > > unsubscribe vnc-list > > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > > See also: > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > > unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ===== > SI Reasoning > sczjd@yahoo.com > gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! > Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From martin.sarter@web.de Sun Sep 2 19:54:17 2001 From: martin.sarter@web.de (Martin Sarter) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 18:54:17 +0000 Subject: KDE again In-Reply-To: <002701c13305$7ccf54a0$0103e98f@aias> Message-ID: Hi, > kill all KDE processes Killing KDE is killing X but I can login with twm or whatever, okay. >start a new VNC server without loading anything in it You mean nothing but a window manager like twm? >type "startkde". What is then happening? KDE is starting up. But still I can run only one KDE. When I try to start another KDE in a new vncserver the same DCOP error shows up (DCOP server, kdesktop etc. already running! DCOP communication error!). Since I have to work on the linux machine where the vncserver is running I need a KDE on both the vncserver and the vncviewer machines. I know this is a KDE rather than a Xvnc problem but still I hope to find a solution within this mailing list. Martin. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Georgios Petasis > Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 6:45 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: KDE again > > > That is very strange. I use both KDE 1.x and 2.x under VNC in both > solaris and linux with no problems. > I will suggest that you kill your VNC server, > kill all KDE processes, start a new VNC server without loading anything > in it, set the proper display variable and type "startkde". > What is then happening? > Make sure that nothing is run in the server before you run startkde, > not even a window manager... > > George > > > Hi, > > > > I searched the archive, watched the mailing list for several weeks, > followed > > the usual hints (modifying xsetup, setting -depth to the > appropriate) but > > KDE still isn't working with VNC. All I get is a vncviewer window with a > > konsole and the KDE background color but no icons, no > background image, no > > task bar, no window elements to the konsole. I have SuSE 7.1 running. > > > > Any hints? > > > > Martin. > > > > Here's the log: > > --------------------------------- > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Xvnc version 3.3.3r1 > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Copyright (C) AT&T Laboratories Cambridge. > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 All Rights Reserved. > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 See http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc for information > on > > VNC > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Desktop name 'X' (linux:1) > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Protocol version supported 3.3 > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Listening for VNC connections on TCP port 5901 > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Listening for HTTP connections on TCP port 5801 > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 URL http://linux:5801 > > --------------------------------- > > It looks like dcopserver is already running. If you are sure > > that it is not already running, remove /root/.DCOPserver_linux > > and start dcopserver again. > > --------------------------------- > > > > kdesktop is already running! > > KDE Daemon (kded) already running. > > Could not load library! Trying exec.... > > Launched ok, pid = 1011 > > Server has no DPMS extension > > There are already artsd objects registered, looking if they are > active... > > ERROR: kicker is already running! > > klipper is already running! > > > > Error: Can't add object reference (probably artsd is already running). > > If you are sure it is not already running, remove the relevant > files: > > > > /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_SimpleSoundServer > > /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_PlayObjectFactory > > /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_AudioManager > > > > kwrited is already running.ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication > > error! > > QSocketNotifier: Multiple socket notifiers for same socket 6 > and type read > > > > 01/09/01 17:04:15 Got connection from client 127.0.0.1 > > 01/09/01 17:04:16 Protocol version 3.3 > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 Pixel format for client 127.0.0.1: > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 32 bpp, depth 24, little endian > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 true colour: max r 255 g 255 b 255, shift r > 16 g 8 b 0 > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 Using raw encoding for client 127.0.0.1 > > --------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From maillist@devilsplayground.net Sun Sep 2 20:03:45 2001 From: maillist@devilsplayground.net (Dave Warren) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 19:03:45 +0000 Subject: Undocumented port in use by VNCviewer in Listen Mode? References: <002301c13223$e2d8fcc0$1cbf4241@swbell.net> Message-ID: <003c01c133d9$20d60020$6b00a8c0@devilsplayground.net> But the original question was about running VNC *VIEWER* in listen mode, not running the server in listen mode. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete" To: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 7:50 AM Subject: Re: Undocumented port in use by VNCviewer in Listen Mode? > I've just run a VNC server on a system with a network monitor running and am > logged into it from a viewer over the network. > > I too see a second port open and listening, but in my case it's 5800. It > appears to simply be a control-connection. The only time I see any data > activity on that port is when a connection is established or disconnected. > > Hope that settles your fears. ======================================================== Dave Warren, devilsplayground.net administrator Email: dave.warren@devilsplayground.net ======================================================== --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From maillist@devilsplayground.net Sun Sep 2 20:03:50 2001 From: maillist@devilsplayground.net (Dave Warren) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 19:03:50 +0000 Subject: Win2k Locked Workstation References: Message-ID: <003b01c133d9$208b3b80$6b00a8c0@devilsplayground.net> In the viewer, click on the system menu (The little icon at the top left hand corner), there's an option to send control-alt-del to the server from there. Does that work? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Bosworth" To: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 12:21 PM Subject: Win2k Locked Workstation > I have a Win2k workstation at work and lock this station before I leave. At > home I have a Win98 system and using VNC 3.3r. I use the Web browser to > connect, but every time I enter my password, VNC automatically closes. If I > keep my workstation at work open and not locked, the connection gets through > no problem. Only when the Win2k system is locked does this problem arise. > I can connect through the normal Viewer but cannot send Ctl+Alt+Del through > this so it is useless to me. I need the browser.... ======================================================== Dave Warren, devilsplayground.net administrator Email: dave.warren@devilsplayground.net ======================================================== --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sczjd@yahoo.com Sun Sep 2 22:59:57 2001 From: sczjd@yahoo.com (SI Reasoning) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 21:59:57 +0000 Subject: KDE again In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010902205610.87355.qmail@web9503.mail.yahoo.com> from the server or the viewer? It has to be done by the server for KDE2 to work for me. --- Martin Sarter wrote: > Hi, > > >I had to set the default color to 24 instead of 8 > First modification I made. I can set -depth to 24 or > 32, makes no > difference. > > Martin. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On > Behalf Of SI Reasoning > > Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 8:01 PM > > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > Subject: Re: KDE again > > > > > > I had to set the default color to 24 instead of 8 > to > > get kde programs to work properly. I did it by > editing > > /usr/bin/vncserver. > > --- Georgios Petasis > > wrote: > > > That is very strange. I use both KDE 1.x and 2.x > > > under VNC in both > > > solaris and linux with no problems. > > > I will suggest that you kill your VNC server, > > > kill all KDE processes, start a new VNC server > > > without loading anything > > > in it, set the proper display variable and type > > > "startkde". > > > What is then happening? > > > Make sure that nothing is run in the server > before > > > you run startkde, > > > not even a window manager... > > > > > > George > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I searched the archive, watched the mailing > list > > > for several weeks, > > > followed > > > > the usual hints (modifying xsetup, setting > -depth > > > to the appropriate) but > > > > KDE still isn't working with VNC. All I get is > a > > > vncviewer window with a > > > > konsole and the KDE background color but no > icons, > > > no background image, no > > > > task bar, no window elements to the konsole. I > > > have SuSE 7.1 running. > > > > > > > > Any hints? > > > > > > > > Martin. > > > > > > > > Here's the log: > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Xvnc version 3.3.3r1 > > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Copyright (C) AT&T > Laboratories > > > Cambridge. > > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 All Rights Reserved. > > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 See > > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc for > information > > > on > > > > VNC > > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Desktop name 'X' (linux:1) > > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Protocol version supported > 3.3 > > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Listening for VNC > connections on > > > TCP port 5901 > > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Listening for HTTP > connections > > > on TCP port 5801 > > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 URL http://linux:5801 > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > It looks like dcopserver is already running. > If > > > you are sure > > > > that it is not already running, remove > > > /root/.DCOPserver_linux > > > > and start dcopserver again. > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > kdesktop is already running! > > > > KDE Daemon (kded) already running. > > > > Could not load library! Trying exec.... > > > > Launched ok, pid = 1011 > > > > Server has no DPMS extension > > > > There are already artsd objects registered, > > > looking if they are active... > > > > ERROR: kicker is already running! > > > > klipper is already running! > > > > > > > > Error: Can't add object reference (probably > artsd > > > is already running). > > > > If you are sure it is not already > running, > > > remove the relevant > > > files: > > > > > > > > /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_SimpleSoundServer > > > > /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_PlayObjectFactory > > > > /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_AudioManager > > > > > > > > kwrited is already running.ERROR: > > > KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication > > > > error! > > > > QSocketNotifier: Multiple socket notifiers for > > > same socket 6 and type read > > > > > > > > 01/09/01 17:04:15 Got connection from client > > > 127.0.0.1 > > > > 01/09/01 17:04:16 Protocol version 3.3 > > > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 Pixel format for client > > > 127.0.0.1: > > > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 32 bpp, depth 24, little > > > endian > > > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 true colour: max r 255 g > 255 b > > > 255, shift r 16 g 8 b 0 > > > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 Using raw encoding for > client > > > 127.0.0.1 > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > > > unsubscribe vnc-list > > > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > > > See also: > > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > > > unsubscribe vnc-list > > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > > See also: > > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ===== > > SI Reasoning > > sczjd@yahoo.com > > gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > messaging with Yahoo! > > Messenger > > http://im.yahoo.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== SI Reasoning sczjd@yahoo.com gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From karlheinz@khschulz.com Mon Sep 3 00:59:49 2001 From: karlheinz@khschulz.com (Karl-Heinz Schulz) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 23:59:49 +0000 Subject: Problem with VNC Viewer Message-ID: <000b01c13402$59fa0120$0b515d18@CHARLIELABTOP> Viewer is installed on Windows 2000 (with all patches installed) VNC Server is installed on Mandrake 8 (latest version available) Problem number 1 - kvm is not available on Mandrake when running Xfree 4.XX I have the following Windows Manager installed KDE Gnome Fvwm When starting the viewer I see only the grey start up screen The output of my xstartup file is as following bash-2.05$ more xstartup #!/bin/sh xrdb $HOME/.Xresources xsetroot -solid grey xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP Desktop" & fvwm & What am I missing? Thank you --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From const@ce.cctpu.edu.ru Mon Sep 3 01:21:23 2001 From: const@ce.cctpu.edu.ru (Const Kaplinsky) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 00:21:23 +0000 Subject: TightVNC crash on 6 of 16 NT servers In-Reply-To: <3B8FAB27.1F01E02@InvisibleRobot.com> References: <3B8FAB27.1F01E02@InvisibleRobot.com> Message-ID: Hello, >>>>> "EC" == Eric Carlson writes: EC> Two days ago I installed TightVNC 1.20 on 16 Windows NT 4.0/SP6a EC> servers in place of plain VNC 3.3.3r9. On 6 of the servers, when I EC> try to connect, TightVNC server gives a Dr. Watson error, and EC> stops working (I've tried both clients, with the same results). So EC> far, the other 10 servers are okay. EC> All of the servers will let me connect within a few minutes after EC> I boot them, but within the next hour or the next day, TightVNC EC> stops working. EC> I didn't have problems with the 3.3.3r9 server. EC> The servers each have different combinations of hardware, so the EC> problem doesn't appear to be caused by a specific piece of EC> hardware. EC> To install TightVNC, I replaced the old VNC files, and then EC> uninstalled and reinstalled the VNC service, and rebooted the EC> servers. EC> Should I switch all the servers back to 3.3.3r9, or is there EC> another solution? Did I install TightVNC incorrectly? I originally EC> installed VNC 3.3.3r9 with the install program. I have not seen crashes with latest TightVNC version yet, and if I could re-produce the problem, or to clarify conditions causing the server to crash, that could help me to locate and fix bugs that might cause the problem. What color mode do you use on servers and does changing screen mode (e.g. 24bit -> 16bit) change anything? Do these crashes depend on encoding or cursor pointer mode used? Maybe there is something where machines differ (e.g. video drivers)? Also, I'd like to know, does anybody else experience similar problems? -- With Best Wishes, Constantin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sczjd@yahoo.com Mon Sep 3 01:35:30 2001 From: sczjd@yahoo.com (SI Reasoning) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 00:35:30 +0000 Subject: Problem with VNC Viewer In-Reply-To: <000b01c13402$59fa0120$0b515d18@CHARLIELABTOP> Message-ID: <20010902233236.63326.qmail@web9501.mail.yahoo.com> Have you tried the fvwm on your desktop to make sure it works? Are you sure it is installed? --- Karl-Heinz Schulz wrote: > Viewer is installed on Windows 2000 (with all > patches installed) > VNC Server is installed on Mandrake 8 (latest > version available) > > Problem number 1 - kvm is not available on Mandrake > when running Xfree 4.XX > I have the following Windows Manager installed > > KDE > Gnome > Fvwm > > When starting the viewer I see only the grey start > up screen > > The output of my xstartup file is as following > > bash-2.05$ more xstartup > #!/bin/sh > > xrdb $HOME/.Xresources > xsetroot -solid grey > xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP > Desktop" & > fvwm & > > What am I missing? > > Thank you > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== SI Reasoning sczjd@yahoo.com gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From karlheinz@khschulz.com Mon Sep 3 01:49:12 2001 From: karlheinz@khschulz.com (Karl-Heinz Schulz) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 00:49:12 +0000 Subject: Problem with VNC Viewer In-Reply-To: <20010902233236.63326.qmail@web9501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000c01c13409$67415750$0b515d18@CHARLIELABTOP> I didn't try fvwm because it was installed it remotely be me. I tried it also with KDE and Gnome - both are installed and work. The problem is that the server is in Montreal and I'm in North Carolina and log in via OpenSSH. -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On Behalf Of SI Reasoning Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 7:33 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Problem with VNC Viewer Have you tried the fvwm on your desktop to make sure it works? Are you sure it is installed? --- Karl-Heinz Schulz wrote: > Viewer is installed on Windows 2000 (with all > patches installed) > VNC Server is installed on Mandrake 8 (latest > version available) > > Problem number 1 - kvm is not available on Mandrake > when running Xfree 4.XX > I have the following Windows Manager installed > > KDE > Gnome > Fvwm > > When starting the viewer I see only the grey start > up screen > > The output of my xstartup file is as following > > bash-2.05$ more xstartup > #!/bin/sh > > xrdb $HOME/.Xresources > xsetroot -solid grey > xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP > Desktop" & > fvwm & > > What am I missing? > > Thank you > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== SI Reasoning sczjd@yahoo.com gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From yan@cardinalengineering.com Mon Sep 3 02:10:56 2001 From: yan@cardinalengineering.com (Yan Seiner) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 01:10:56 +0000 Subject: New user References: <003c01c133bf$14edbf60$64c8690a@Carola> Message-ID: <3B92C9E7.3963ADE3@cardinalengineering.com> VNC over VPN? Yes. Do it all the time. There should not be anything special about it. I run VNC over a network built with vtund (lightweight linux-based vpn). I have also run VNC over pptp from a win 9x client to a linux-based pptp server. No problem either way. I have, however, run into a similar problem trying to run various connections through a winNT based firewall. I suspect some sort of stateful packet inspection, but since the attempts were unauthorized, I can't provide any additional data. Can you get firewall/access logs from the NT server? --Yan spencer wrote: > > Scott, > I have a similar issue as stated below. Do you have any suggestions? > > I am trying to use VNC to access a Windows NT Server (Backup Domain > Controller, BDC). I am accessing the BDC via an all Microsoft VPN. I have > RAS on the Server and use the PPTP protocol to connect. I can connect to the > server (and have been doing this for some time now). > > Here is my setup. > Corporate- NT Server, BDC running behind a Linksys BEFSR41 nat router. > Public IP on the Wan side of the Linksys router. Forwarding ports 80, 25, > 110, and 1723 (for Linksys to work with VPN) to the 192.168.xxx.xxx NT BDC. > > Remote- NT Workstation, running behind a Linksys BEFSR41 nat router, dynamic > public IP (which has not changed in months). > > The Problem: > I have loaded WinVNC onto that server and can use the Win 98 client viewer > while on the local LAN. However, when on the remote NT Workstation I can > successfully connect to Corporate, but I cannot successfully run the WinNT > VNC client. I can enter the IP address of the remote machine, I get prompted > for a password and the remote screen initiates, then turns all black, and > then shuts down. > > Question: > Has anyone successfully connected VNC via a VPN tunnel of any type, and > specifically the type described above. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sczjd@yahoo.com Mon Sep 3 07:24:33 2001 From: sczjd@yahoo.com (SI Reasoning) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 06:24:33 +0000 Subject: Problem with VNC Viewer In-Reply-To: <000c01c13409$67415750$0b515d18@CHARLIELABTOP> Message-ID: <20010903051745.11142.qmail@web9504.mail.yahoo.com> try this: ------------------ #!/bin/sh xrdb $HOME/.Xresources exec fvwm #exec gnome-session #exec startkde ---------------------- you can unmark gnome or kde and re-mark fvwm if you want to try the others. --- Karl-Heinz Schulz wrote: > I didn't try fvwm because it was installed it > remotely be me. > I tried it also with KDE and Gnome - both are > installed and work. > > The problem is that the server is in Montreal and > I'm in North Carolina and > log in via OpenSSH. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On > Behalf Of SI Reasoning > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 7:33 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: Problem with VNC Viewer > > Have you tried the fvwm on your desktop to make sure > it works? > Are you sure it is installed? > > --- Karl-Heinz Schulz > wrote: > > Viewer is installed on Windows 2000 (with all > > patches installed) > > VNC Server is installed on Mandrake 8 (latest > > version available) > > > > Problem number 1 - kvm is not available on > Mandrake > > when running Xfree 4.XX > > I have the following Windows Manager installed > > > > KDE > > Gnome > > Fvwm > > > > When starting the viewer I see only the grey start > > up screen > > > > The output of my xstartup file is as following > > > > bash-2.05$ more xstartup > > #!/bin/sh > > > > xrdb $HOME/.Xresources > > xsetroot -solid grey > > xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title > "$VNCDESKTOP > > Desktop" & > > fvwm & > > > > What am I missing? > > > > Thank you > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > > unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ===== > SI Reasoning > sczjd@yahoo.com > gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== SI Reasoning sczjd@yahoo.com gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From petasis@iit.demokritos.gr Mon Sep 3 08:23:53 2001 From: petasis@iit.demokritos.gr (Georgios Petasis) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 07:23:53 +0000 Subject: KDE again In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01090309120600.29666@atlas> On ??? 02 ??? 2001 20:47, you wrote: > Hi, > > > kill all KDE processes > > Killing KDE is killing X but I can login with twm or whatever, okay. No, killing KDE is *not* killing X. KDE utilises many services that do not require X, like the DCOP server. > > >start a new VNC server without loading anything in it > > You mean nothing but a window manager like twm? No, not even a window manager like twm > > >type "startkde". What is then happening? > > KDE is starting up. But still I can run only one KDE. When I try to start > another KDE in a new vncserver the same DCOP error shows up (DCOP server, > kdesktop etc. already running! DCOP communication error!). Note that the *same* user can start up only *one* kde session. Loggin as a different user to start another session... George --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From richard.harris@nottscc.gov.uk Mon Sep 3 10:30:00 2001 From: richard.harris@nottscc.gov.uk (Richard Harris) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 09:30:00 +0000 Subject: Push to Windows Millenium In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3B934CB2.16317.F7611@localhost> > I did a search of the archives and wasnt able to find any info on > this. Is there a specific way to push VNC to a Windows ME machine > from an NT 4.0 Server? I can map drives as normal to the machine (its > a domain member), but what about the service install, et cetera? Is > the install any different from a remote install on an NT/Win2k > machine? I don't have any experience with VNC on ME. If ME is just a jazzed up 95 that takes NT drivers, then you'll have to go down the route of an install package. If ME has NT-like services then you should be able to use the SC command to install VNC as a service. You only need a push script if the local OS has it's own security system (nt/2000). Windows 9x doesn't have any of this, so if ME is like 9x, you could just use your own custom installer. Check out http://www.darkage.co.uk/vnc/owndistro.htm for a more in-depth discussion. HTH, Rich --------------------------------- Richard Harris Environment IT Tel: 0115 977 4509 --------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From david@jdavidj.freeserve.co.uk Mon Sep 3 11:51:36 2001 From: david@jdavidj.freeserve.co.uk (David Jackson) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 10:51:36 +0000 Subject: New user In-Reply-To: <002001c132a5$05bab7c0$1cbf4241@swbell.net> Message-ID: Thanks Pete No, I am not trying to dial up via the Internet, I am trying to do it direct via the telephone line. This is what I cannot understand. If I can connect two machines through a coaxial cable, why can I not connect the same two machines through a modem and phone line? On the Server machine, the IP address is 10.1.0.11, or at least that is what comes up when I hover the mouse over the vnc icon on the desktop toolbar. Having said that, I have just hovered over the icon on this PC and I now get 62.137.158.158.192.168.0.1 Is the first part of this the dynamic IP? Cheers David -----Original Message----- From: Pete [mailto:pete@atdt911.com] Sent: 01 September 2001 06:15 To: David Jackson Subject: Re: New user > OK. So I dial up through my usual ISP, and use whatever IP I am given for > each computer? Right. It can be tedious figuring out what a dynamic IP is; you might want to look into a dynamic DNS server. http://www.cjb.net/ http://www.dns2go.com/ http://www.dynip.com/ > The network of 5 dials up to the Internet via the Server, each workstation > using Winvnc to get the Server screen and then using that screen for dial up > via the Server modem to the Internet. OK, so they've only got 1 public IP -- on the server machine. Run WINIPCFG.EXE on that machine and that'll tell you what its IP is. > > Thanks for taking the time to help me with this. > > Cheers > David > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pete [mailto:pete@atdt911.com] > Sent: 31 August 2001 13:43 > To: David Jackson > Subject: Re: New user > > Well, on your old- and new-computer, you'll need to set the IPs to whatever > the internet service provider gives as an IP on each end. On dial-up, the IP > usually changes on each connection. > > On the 5 client PCs you describe, same thing, but they would hopefully have > static IPs. Do you know if they're using a proxy or have their own DNS > server and are using DHCP? How do they connect those 5 machines to the > internet? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Jackson" > To: "Pete" > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 6:37 AM > Subject: RE: New user > > > > Thanks Pete. That's very helpful. I shall certainly try that. > > How do I find out what the public IP is? > > Cheers > > David > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pete [mailto:pete@atdt911.com] > > Sent: 31 August 2001 12:08 > > To: david@jdavidj.freeserve.co.uk > > Subject: Re: New user > > > > Everything you're describing is the correct behavior, since those are > > private IPs. They will not pass through any router. > > > > To address the machines from an outside-network, you need to use the > public > > IPs. You must fix that before worrying about using telnet or anything > else. > > > > Once you've found that the public IP is, let's say 12.34.56.78, just make > > sure that either telnet.exe or hyperterminal (better) are installed on the > > box you're telnet'ing from, then enter from the RUN prompt or any address > > bar: > > telnet 12.34.56.78 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Jackson" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 2:45 AM > > Subject: New user > > > > > > > I have got WinVNC 3.3.3R9 running on my home network, between my old > > > computer and my new one. It links fine through my network cards and a > > > coaxial cable. > > > > > > I have now taken my old computer to a friends house and connected it to > > his > > > phone line, but I cannot now dial into it from my new computer at home. > > Nor > > > can he dial into my computer from there. I seem to have got all the > > > settings right, but when it dials his number, and it answers, my old > > > computer does not pick up the signal. What am I doing wrong? I am > > > searching on the IP number, which is 192.168.0.2 for the old computer > and > > > 192.168.0.1 for the new computer, which works fine on the home network > > > through the cable connection but I have never got it working through a > > modem > > > connection. How do I ping the old computer? How do I telnet, whatever > > that > > > is? > > > > > > Similarly, I have set up a network of 5 PCs for a client in Birmingham, > > > which happily use Winvnc to communicate with each other. But I cannot > > dial > > > into their system from here, even though I have set up their system to > > allow > > > me to do so. > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From karlheinz@khschulz.com Mon Sep 3 13:51:31 2001 From: karlheinz@khschulz.com (Karl-Heinz Schulz) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 12:51:31 +0000 Subject: Problem with VNC Viewer In-Reply-To: <20010903051745.11142.qmail@web9504.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000501c1346e$0952e900$0b515d18@CHARLIELABTOP> No, no difference - I see just the gray X start up page - no Windows manager. -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On Behalf Of SI Reasoning Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 1:18 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Problem with VNC Viewer try this: ------------------ #!/bin/sh xrdb $HOME/.Xresources exec fvwm #exec gnome-session #exec startkde ---------------------- you can unmark gnome or kde and re-mark fvwm if you want to try the others. --- Karl-Heinz Schulz wrote: > I didn't try fvwm because it was installed it > remotely be me. > I tried it also with KDE and Gnome - both are > installed and work. > > The problem is that the server is in Montreal and > I'm in North Carolina and > log in via OpenSSH. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On > Behalf Of SI Reasoning > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 7:33 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: Problem with VNC Viewer > > Have you tried the fvwm on your desktop to make sure > it works? > Are you sure it is installed? > > --- Karl-Heinz Schulz > wrote: > > Viewer is installed on Windows 2000 (with all > > patches installed) > > VNC Server is installed on Mandrake 8 (latest > > version available) > > > > Problem number 1 - kvm is not available on > Mandrake > > when running Xfree 4.XX > > I have the following Windows Manager installed > > > > KDE > > Gnome > > Fvwm > > > > When starting the viewer I see only the grey start > > up screen > > > > The output of my xstartup file is as following > > > > bash-2.05$ more xstartup > > #!/bin/sh > > > > xrdb $HOME/.Xresources > > xsetroot -solid grey > > xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title > "$VNCDESKTOP > > Desktop" & > > fvwm & > > > > What am I missing? > > > > Thank you > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > > unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ===== > SI Reasoning > sczjd@yahoo.com > gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== SI Reasoning sczjd@yahoo.com gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jason9x19@sunflower.com Mon Sep 3 15:12:21 2001 From: jason9x19@sunflower.com (Jason Holbert) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 14:12:21 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: I'm having the same problem, and I'm running it on Windows NT 4.0 SP5 --J --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spencer@silcom.com Mon Sep 3 15:31:24 2001 From: spencer@silcom.com (spencer) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 14:31:24 +0000 Subject: References: Message-ID: <000c01c1347b$f075ac70$64c8690a@Carola> I think the problem might be that the appropriate switch on the VNC Service for trapping Ctrl-Alt-Del is not turned on. I will have to verify this on Tuesday when the corporate office is open again. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Holbert" To: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 11:53 PM > I'm having the same problem, and I'm running it on Windows NT 4.0 SP5 > > --J > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tritium2010@home.com Mon Sep 3 17:04:24 2001 From: tritium2010@home.com (test) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 16:04:24 +0000 Subject: References: Message-ID: <007501c13488$f3b88f80$f8180018@CORPNT.NET> Funny that this should come up... I just installed VNC on a machine with X-Windows... and I typed password, and this gray screen came up. I thought.. damn... something is incompatible.... Well.. close.. but no cigar. I left clicked on the background, holding the mouse button down... some little invisible windows popped up. All you have to do.. is Click-Hold and drag a little to the right .. it should pop up with something... may not look exactly like your desktop, but it is. Hope that's all! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Holbert" To: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 11:53 PM > I'm having the same problem, and I'm running it on Windows NT 4.0 SP5 > > --J > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From OAnkert@t-online.de Mon Sep 3 17:05:09 2001 From: OAnkert@t-online.de (OAnkert@t-online.de) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 16:05:09 +0000 Subject: ip forwarding win98 Message-ID: <999528982.3b939a168ebe3@webmail.t-online.de> Hello, i have one pc running win98 with two network cards, each attached to a different network. I need to forwarding ip from one network to the other to access the vncservers running on that network. I can not change this pc to winNT or 2000. Can anybody help? Oliver --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tage@cs.uit.no Mon Sep 3 17:28:42 2001 From: tage@cs.uit.no (Tage Stabell-Kulo) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 16:28:42 +0000 Subject: WinVNC and vncwiever (on NetBSD): Closed connection Message-ID: I am running WinVNC on Win2K (3.3.3 R9). The client is version 3.3.3r1, on NetBSD. When I connect the window opens, I get a glimpse of my desktop; the colours seem to be right, and the size seems to be OK. If I stop the viewer (by sending it SUSP at the right moment) I can see that the desktop has been drawn perfectly. However, the window closes after a split second. Below is logging from the client, and then on thw WinVNC side. Any assistance is very welcome. [TaSK] -- //// Tage Stabell-Kulx | email : Tage@cs.uit.no //// ///Department of Computer Science| Phone : +47 7764 4032 /// // 9037 University of Tromsx | Fax : +47 7764 4580 // / Norway | http://www.cs.uit.no/~tage/ ============================= IPv6to4gw:~>vncviewer host VNC server supports protocol version 3.3 (viewer 3.3) Password: VNC authentication succeeded Desktop name "host" Connected to VNC server, using protocol version 3.3 VNC server default format: 32 bits per pixel. Least significant byte first in each pixel. True colour: max red 255 green 255 blue 255, shift red 16 green 8 blue 0 Using default colormap which is TrueColor. Pixel format: 16 bits per pixel. Least significant byte first in each pixel. True colour: max red 31 green 63 blue 31, shift red 11 green 5 blue 0 vncviewer: read: Connection reset by peer IPv6to4gw:~> ================================= D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncSockConnect.cpp : accepted connection from 129.242.16.153 D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncClient.cpp : vncClient() executing... D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncServer.cpp : AddClient() done D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\WinVNC.cpp : message 1026 recieved D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncClient.cpp : client connected : 129.242.16.153 (1) D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncClient.cpp : negotiated version D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncPasswd.h : PASSWD : ToText called D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\WinVNC.cpp : message 275 recieved D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncMenu.cpp : tray icon added ok Mon Sep 03 13:49:00 2001 D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncClient.cpp : non-shared connection - disconnecting old clie nts D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncServer.cpp : KillAuthClients() done D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncDesktop.cpp : initialising desktop handler D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncDesktop.cpp : KillScreenSaver... D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncDesktop.cpp : bitmap dimensions are 1024 x 768 D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncDesktop.cpp : created memory bitmap D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncDesktop.cpp : got bitmap format D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncDesktop.cpp : DBG:display context has 1 planes! D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncDesktop.cpp : DBG:memory context has 1 planes! D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncDesktop.cpp : attempting to enable DIBsection blits D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncDesktop.cpp : unable to enable fast blits D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncDesktop.cpp : no palette data for truecolour display D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncBuffer.cpp : raw encoder requested D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncEncoder.cpp : settranslatefunction called D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncEncoder.cpp : only 8, 16 or 32 bits supported remotely - 0 requested D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncEncoder.cpp : settranslatefunction called D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncEncoder.cpp : no translation required D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncBuffer.cpp : local buffer=3145728, remote buffer=3145740 D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncBuffer.cpp : local buffer=3145728, remote buffer=3145740 D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\WinVNC.cpp : message 1027 recieved D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncServer.cpp : Authenticated() done D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncClient.cpp : authenticated connection D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncClient.cpp : sent pixel format to client D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncMenu.cpp : tray icon added ok D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncBuffer.cpp : SetClientFormat called D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncEncoder.cpp : settranslatefunction called D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncEncoder.cpp : triple LUT used D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncBuffer.cpp : local buffer=3145728, remote buffer=1572876 D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncBuffer.cpp : Hextile encoder requested D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncEncoder.cpp : settranslatefunction called D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncEncoder.cpp : only 8, 16 or 32 bits supported remotely - 0 requested D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncEncoder.cpp : settranslatefunction called D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncEncoder.cpp : triple LUT used D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncBuffer.cpp : local buffer=3145728, remote buffer=1576061 D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncEncoder.cpp : remote palette data requested Mon Sep 03 13:49:01 2001 D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncBuffer.cpp : clearing rectangle (0, 0)-(507, 768) D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\VSocket.cpp : socket error 0 D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncBuffer.cpp : clearing rectangle (507, 0)-(1024, 768) Mon Sep 03 13:49:02 2001 D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncService.cpp : SelectHDESK to Default (40) from 40D:\ORL\vss \winvnc\vncService.cpp : SelectHDESK failed to close old desktop 40 (Err=170) D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncClient.cpp : client disconnected : 129.242.16.153 (1) D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncServer.cpp : removing authorised client D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncServer.cpp : deleting desktop server D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncDesktop.cpp : killing screen server D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncDesktop.cpp : quitting desktop server thread D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncService.cpp : SelectHDESK to Default (40) from 40D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncService.cpp : SelectHDESK failed to close old desktop 40 (Err=170) D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncServer.cpp : RemoveClient() done D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncClient.cpp : ~vncClient() executing... D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncClient.cpp : deleting socket D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\VSocket.cpp : closing socket D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncClient.cpp : deleting buffer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From IanF@src.co.uk Mon Sep 3 17:41:18 2001 From: IanF@src.co.uk (Ian Ferguson) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 16:41:18 +0000 Subject: ip forwarding win98 Message-ID: I think you should be able to use VNCproxy. someone please correct me if this is not the case. Ian -----Original Message----- From: OAnkert@t-online.de [mailto:OAnkert@t-online.de] Sent: 03 September 2001 15:59 To: VNC Liste Subject: ip forwarding win98 Hello, i have one pc running win98 with two network cards, each attached to a different network. I need to forwarding ip from one network to the other to access the vncservers running on that network. I can not change this pc to winNT or 2000. Can anybody help? Oliver --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From bebsworthy@entreview.com Mon Sep 3 19:01:49 2001 From: bebsworthy@entreview.com (Boyd Ebsworthy) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 18:01:49 +0000 Subject: VNC and CORBA Message-ID: <002c01c13497$64a36360$2c30fac2@entreview.com> hi everyone, I'm looking for a way to remotely control a vncserver, i also understand that the internal (corba enabled) version will not be released, so i was wondering if anyone here has done some work to implement some corba control to the windows version of the server. Anyway i'll do my best to come up with something but since i currently know very little about corba any hints or examples will be welcomed :) thanks boyd. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From zmer@weddingchannel.com Mon Sep 3 19:11:56 2001 From: zmer@weddingchannel.com (Zmer Andranigian) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 18:11:56 +0000 Subject: ip forwarding win98 Message-ID: <7D380B2F4B3BD411B748009027855234015814E7@laxchange.weddingc hannel.com> why not just vnc to the machine with two nics and then open another vnc session and vnc over to the other network? -----Original Message----- From: OAnkert@t-online.de [mailto:OAnkert@t-online.de] Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 6:59 AM To: VNC Liste Subject: ip forwarding win98 Hello, i have one pc running win98 with two network cards, each attached to a different network. I need to forwarding ip from one network to the other to access the vncservers running on that network. I can not change this pc to winNT or 2000. Can anybody help? Oliver --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Eric@InvisibleRobot.com Mon Sep 3 19:27:21 2001 From: Eric@InvisibleRobot.com (Eric Carlson) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 18:27:21 +0000 Subject: TightVNC crash on 6 of 16 NT servers References: Message-ID: <3B93B093.CB0294F6@InvisibleRobot.com> Constantin: I think all the servers are running at 800x600x16-bit. The same problem happens no matter which VNC client is used. I'll have to get the Dr.Watson error to send to you, as soon as I can get back into the servers. All the servers should have the same VNC settings. I'll have to find out what video drivers each server is running. - Eric, http://www.InvisibleRobot.com/ > Date: 03 Sep 2001 07:18:31 +0800 > From: Const Kaplinsky > Subject: Re: TightVNC crash on 6 of 16 NT servers > > I have not seen crashes with latest TightVNC version yet, and if I > could re-produce the problem, or to clarify conditions causing the > server to crash, that could help me to locate and fix bugs that might > cause the problem. What color mode do you use on servers and does > changing screen mode (e.g. 24bit -> 16bit) change anything? Do these > crashes depend on encoding or cursor pointer mode used? Maybe there is > something where machines differ (e.g. video drivers)? > > Also, I'd like to know, does anybody else experience similar problems? > > - -- > With Best Wishes, > Constantin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sczjd@yahoo.com Mon Sep 3 19:31:23 2001 From: sczjd@yahoo.com (SI Reasoning) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 18:31:23 +0000 Subject: Problem with VNC Viewer In-Reply-To: <000501c1346e$0952e900$0b515d18@CHARLIELABTOP> Message-ID: <20010903172556.46558.qmail@web9501.mail.yahoo.com> Did you try all 3 (only one at a time though!) You know this has to be set on the server computer...not the computer you are typing from. You have to set it up in your user account on the server. --- Karl-Heinz Schulz wrote: > No, no difference - I see just the gray X start up > page - no Windows > manager. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On > Behalf Of SI Reasoning > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 1:18 AM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: RE: Problem with VNC Viewer > > try this: > ------------------ > #!/bin/sh > > xrdb $HOME/.Xresources > exec fvwm > #exec gnome-session > #exec startkde > ---------------------- > you can unmark gnome or kde and re-mark fvwm if you > want to try the others. > > > --- Karl-Heinz Schulz > wrote: > > I didn't try fvwm because it was installed it > > remotely be me. > > I tried it also with KDE and Gnome - both are > > installed and work. > > > > The problem is that the server is in Montreal and > > I'm in North Carolina and > > log in via OpenSSH. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On > > Behalf Of SI Reasoning > > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 7:33 PM > > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > Subject: Re: Problem with VNC Viewer > > > > Have you tried the fvwm on your desktop to make > sure > > it works? > > Are you sure it is installed? > > > > --- Karl-Heinz Schulz > > wrote: > > > Viewer is installed on Windows 2000 (with all > > > patches installed) > > > VNC Server is installed on Mandrake 8 (latest > > > version available) > > > > > > Problem number 1 - kvm is not available on > > Mandrake > > > when running Xfree 4.XX > > > I have the following Windows Manager installed > > > > > > KDE > > > Gnome > > > Fvwm > > > > > > When starting the viewer I see only the grey > start > > > up screen > > > > > > The output of my xstartup file is as following > > > > > > bash-2.05$ more xstartup > > > #!/bin/sh > > > > > > xrdb $HOME/.Xresources > > > xsetroot -solid grey > > > xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title > > "$VNCDESKTOP > > > Desktop" & > > > fvwm & > > > > > > What am I missing? > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > > > unsubscribe vnc-list > > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > > See also: > > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ===== > > SI Reasoning > > sczjd@yahoo.com > > gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > > messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > > http://im.yahoo.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > > unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > > unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ===== > SI Reasoning > sczjd@yahoo.com > gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== SI Reasoning sczjd@yahoo.com gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From twaugh@redhat.com Mon Sep 3 19:41:31 2001 From: twaugh@redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 18:41:31 +0000 Subject: [patch] make vncpasswd create ~/.vnc if it doesn't exist Message-ID: <20010903183607.F20060@redhat.com> Here is a patch that makes vncpasswd create ~/.vnc if it doesn't exist, rather than failing with a less than obvious error message. Tim. */ --- vnc_unixsrc/vncpasswd/vncpasswd.c.vncuserdir Tue Aug 17 12:31:42 1999 +++ vnc_unixsrc/vncpasswd/vncpasswd.c Mon Sep 3 18:09:06 2001 @@ -24,9 +24,12 @@ * anyway. */ +#include #include #include #include +#include +#include #include #include "vncauth.h" @@ -38,6 +41,7 @@ int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { char *passwd; char *passwd1; + char passwdDir[256]; char passwdFile[256]; int i; @@ -46,7 +50,8 @@ fprintf(stderr,"Error: no HOME environment variable\n"); exit(1); } - sprintf(passwdFile,"%s/.vnc/passwd",getenv("HOME")); + sprintf(passwdDir,"%s/.vnc",getenv("HOME")); + sprintf(passwdFile,"%s/passwd",passwdDir); } else if (argc == 2) { @@ -78,6 +83,12 @@ } if (strcmp(passwd1, passwd) == 0) { + if (mkdir (passwdDir, (S_IRWXU | S_IRGRP | S_IXGRP | + S_IROTH | S_IXOTH)) == -1 && + errno != EEXIST) { + perror ("~/.vnc"); + exit (1); + } if (vncEncryptAndStorePasswd(passwd, passwdFile) != 0) { fprintf(stderr,"Cannot write password file %s\n",passwdFile); exit(1); --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From twaugh@redhat.com Mon Sep 3 19:43:17 2001 From: twaugh@redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 18:43:17 +0000 Subject: Problem with VNC Viewer In-Reply-To: <20010903172556.46558.qmail@web9501.mail.yahoo.com>; from sczjd@yahoo.com on Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 10:25:56AM -0700 References: <000501c1346e$0952e900$0b515d18@CHARLIELABTOP> <20010903172556.46558.qmail@web9501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010903183827.G20060@redhat.com> Here is the patch that I'll be putting into the Red Hat Linux VNC RPMs to make this kind of thing easier. Tim. */ --- vnc_unixsrc/vncserver.xclients Mon Sep 3 17:45:51 2001 +++ vnc_unixsrc/vncserver Mon Sep 3 17:48:16 2001 @@ -43,10 +43,8 @@ $defaultXStartup = ("#!/bin/sh\n\n". - "xrdb \$HOME/.Xresources\n". - "xsetroot -solid grey\n". - "xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title \"\$VNCDESKTOP Desktop\" &\n". - "twm &\n"); + "# Red Hat Linux VNC session startup script\n". + "exec /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients\n"); chop($host = `uname -n`); Tim. */ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From karlheinz@khschulz.com Mon Sep 3 20:21:40 2001 From: karlheinz@khschulz.com (Karl-Heinz Schulz) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 19:21:40 +0000 Subject: Problem with VNC Viewer In-Reply-To: <20010903172556.46558.qmail@web9501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001401c134a3$942c4f50$0b515d18@CHARLIELABTOP> Yes ;) Yes of course - the viewer is used on a Windows 2000 machine. -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On Behalf Of SI Reasoning Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 1:26 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Problem with VNC Viewer Did you try all 3 (only one at a time though!) You know this has to be set on the server computer...not the computer you are typing from. You have to set it up in your user account on the server. --- Karl-Heinz Schulz wrote: > No, no difference - I see just the gray X start up > page - no Windows > manager. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On > Behalf Of SI Reasoning > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 1:18 AM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: RE: Problem with VNC Viewer > > try this: > ------------------ > #!/bin/sh > > xrdb $HOME/.Xresources > exec fvwm > #exec gnome-session > #exec startkde > ---------------------- > you can unmark gnome or kde and re-mark fvwm if you > want to try the others. > > > --- Karl-Heinz Schulz > wrote: > > I didn't try fvwm because it was installed it > > remotely be me. > > I tried it also with KDE and Gnome - both are > > installed and work. > > > > The problem is that the server is in Montreal and > > I'm in North Carolina and > > log in via OpenSSH. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On > > Behalf Of SI Reasoning > > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 7:33 PM > > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > Subject: Re: Problem with VNC Viewer > > > > Have you tried the fvwm on your desktop to make > sure > > it works? > > Are you sure it is installed? > > > > --- Karl-Heinz Schulz > > wrote: > > > Viewer is installed on Windows 2000 (with all > > > patches installed) > > > VNC Server is installed on Mandrake 8 (latest > > > version available) > > > > > > Problem number 1 - kvm is not available on > > Mandrake > > > when running Xfree 4.XX > > > I have the following Windows Manager installed > > > > > > KDE > > > Gnome > > > Fvwm > > > > > > When starting the viewer I see only the grey > start > > > up screen > > > > > > The output of my xstartup file is as following > > > > > > bash-2.05$ more xstartup > > > #!/bin/sh > > > > > > xrdb $HOME/.Xresources > > > xsetroot -solid grey > > > xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title > > "$VNCDESKTOP > > > Desktop" & > > > fvwm & > > > > > > What am I missing? > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > > > unsubscribe vnc-list > > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > > See also: > > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ===== > > SI Reasoning > > sczjd@yahoo.com > > gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > > messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > > http://im.yahoo.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > > unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > > unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ===== > SI Reasoning > sczjd@yahoo.com > gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== SI Reasoning sczjd@yahoo.com gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From steedra@earthlink.net Mon Sep 3 20:59:39 2001 From: steedra@earthlink.net (Robert A. Steed) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 19:59:39 +0000 Subject: Systray Icon Message-ID: <000001c134a9$670c6ef0$010000c0@steedra> I am currently running VNC 3.3.3r9 and looking for a way to hide the SysTray Icon. Does anyone have a registry edit that will do this or can point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance. Robert A. Steed mailto:steedra@yahoo.com http://www.afn.org/~afn52478 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Mon Sep 3 21:16:27 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 20:16:27 +0000 Subject: Systray Icon Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04D7A@QMAIL> -----Original Message----- From: Robert A. Steed [mailto:steedra@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 2:51 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Systray Icon I am currently running VNC 3.3.3r9 and looking for a way to hide the SysTray Icon. Does anyone have a registry edit that will do this or can point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance. Robert A. Steed mailto:steedra@yahoo.com http://www.afn.org/~afn52478 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pdy1969@yahoo.com Mon Sep 3 21:16:31 2001 From: pdy1969@yahoo.com (Philip Ygnacio) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 20:16:31 +0000 Subject: Systray Icon In-Reply-To: <000001c134a9$670c6ef0$010000c0@steedra> Message-ID: <20010903191409.84004.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> the way to solve this is to install the VNC a s a "Service". You will find the instructions for doing this in the instruction packet that you can down load at the VNC website. --- "Robert A. Steed" wrote: > I am currently running VNC 3.3.3r9 and looking for a way to hide the SysTray > Icon. Does anyone have a registry edit that will do this or can point me in > the right direction. > > > Thanks in advance. > > Robert A. Steed > mailto:steedra@yahoo.com > http://www.afn.org/~afn52478 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== Have you ever noticed that the people that say something can't be done .... are the ones that are always successfull at not doing anything? >> pdy << Some see the world as it is ...and.. ask... " WHY" ? Others see the world as it could be and ask... "Why Not" ? << Robert Kennedy >> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Mon Sep 3 21:16:39 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 20:16:39 +0000 Subject: Systray Icon Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04D7B@QMAIL> Yes, look at the TridiaVNC distro - they have this registry hack included. See http://www.tridiavnc.com. -----Original Message----- From: Robert A. Steed [mailto:steedra@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 2:51 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Systray Icon I am currently running VNC 3.3.3r9 and looking for a way to hide the SysTray Icon. Does anyone have a registry edit that will do this or can point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance. Robert A. Steed mailto:steedra@yahoo.com http://www.afn.org/~afn52478 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From steedra@earthlink.net Mon Sep 3 22:56:52 2001 From: steedra@earthlink.net (Robert A. Steed) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 21:56:52 +0000 Subject: Systray Icon In-Reply-To: <20010903191409.84004.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001c134ba$857085f0$010000c0@steedra> I have set it up as a service, but did watch my registry a little closer this time. It was placing a hook in the registry for service helper. This is what kept is showing in the systray. Removing that service helper from the run once part of the registry corrected. Thanks for the pointer. -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Philip Ygnacio Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 3:14 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Systray Icon the way to solve this is to install the VNC a s a "Service". You will find the instructions for doing this in the instruction packet that you can down load at the VNC website. --- "Robert A. Steed" wrote: > I am currently running VNC 3.3.3r9 and looking for a way to hide the SysTray > Icon. Does anyone have a registry edit that will do this or can point me in > the right direction. > > > Thanks in advance. > > Robert A. Steed > mailto:steedra@yahoo.com > http://www.afn.org/~afn52478 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== Have you ever noticed that the people that say something can't be done .... are the ones that are always successfull at not doing anything? >> pdy << Some see the world as it is ...and.. ask... " WHY" ? Others see the world as it could be and ask... "Why Not" ? << Robert Kennedy >> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sczjd@yahoo.com Mon Sep 3 23:51:14 2001 From: sczjd@yahoo.com (SI Reasoning) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 22:51:14 +0000 Subject: Problem with VNC Viewer In-Reply-To: <001401c134a3$942c4f50$0b515d18@CHARLIELABTOP> Message-ID: <20010903214739.44134.qmail@web9502.mail.yahoo.com> have you killed the process and then restarted the server after you make the change? If not, type vncserver -kill :1 replace the number (1) with the number for your server then type vncserver :1 (again replacing your number for the 1. --- Karl-Heinz Schulz wrote: > Yes ;) > Yes of course - the viewer is used on a Windows 2000 > machine. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On > Behalf Of SI Reasoning > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 1:26 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: RE: Problem with VNC Viewer > > Did you try all 3 (only one at a time though!) > You know this has to be set on the server > computer...not the computer you are typing from. You > have to set it up in your user account on the > server. > > --- Karl-Heinz Schulz > wrote: > > No, no difference - I see just the gray X start up > > page - no Windows > > manager. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On > > Behalf Of SI Reasoning > > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 1:18 AM > > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > Subject: RE: Problem with VNC Viewer > > > > try this: > > ------------------ > > #!/bin/sh > > > > xrdb $HOME/.Xresources > > exec fvwm > > #exec gnome-session > > #exec startkde > > ---------------------- > > you can unmark gnome or kde and re-mark fvwm if > you > > want to try the others. > > > > > > --- Karl-Heinz Schulz > > wrote: > > > I didn't try fvwm because it was installed it > > > remotely be me. > > > I tried it also with KDE and Gnome - both are > > > installed and work. > > > > > > The problem is that the server is in Montreal > and > > > I'm in North Carolina and > > > log in via OpenSSH. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On > > > Behalf Of SI Reasoning > > > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 7:33 PM > > > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > > Subject: Re: Problem with VNC Viewer > > > > > > Have you tried the fvwm on your desktop to make > > sure > > > it works? > > > Are you sure it is installed? > > > > > > --- Karl-Heinz Schulz > > > wrote: > > > > Viewer is installed on Windows 2000 (with all > > > > patches installed) > > > > VNC Server is installed on Mandrake 8 (latest > > > > version available) > > > > > > > > Problem number 1 - kvm is not available on > > > Mandrake > > > > when running Xfree 4.XX > > > > I have the following Windows Manager installed > > > > > > > > KDE > > > > Gnome > > > > Fvwm > > > > > > > > When starting the viewer I see only the grey > > start > > > > up screen > > > > > > > > The output of my xstartup file is as following > > > > > > > > bash-2.05$ more xstartup > > > > #!/bin/sh > > > > > > > > xrdb $HOME/.Xresources > > > > xsetroot -solid grey > > > > xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title > > > "$VNCDESKTOP > > > > Desktop" & > > > > fvwm & > > > > > > > > What am I missing? > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > > > > unsubscribe vnc-list > > > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > > > See also: > > > > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ===== > > > SI Reasoning > > > sczjd@yahoo.com > > > gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > > > messaging with Yahoo! 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Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sczjd@yahoo.com Mon Sep 3 23:53:07 2001 From: sczjd@yahoo.com (SI Reasoning) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 22:53:07 +0000 Subject: Problem with VNC Viewer In-Reply-To: <20010903183827.G20060@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20010903215100.49971.qmail@web9507.mail.yahoo.com> You might want to leave in "xrdb \$HOME/.Xresources\n". since that will allow for individual changes (helps clue in sophisticated newbies) --- Tim Waugh wrote: > Here is the patch that I'll be putting into the Red > Hat Linux VNC RPMs > to make this kind of thing easier. > > Tim. > */ > > --- vnc_unixsrc/vncserver.xclients Mon Sep 3 > 17:45:51 2001 > +++ vnc_unixsrc/vncserver Mon Sep 3 17:48:16 2001 > @@ -43,10 +43,8 @@ > > $defaultXStartup > = ("#!/bin/sh\n\n". > - "xrdb \$HOME/.Xresources\n". > - "xsetroot -solid grey\n". > - "xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title > \"\$VNCDESKTOP Desktop\" &\n". > - "twm &\n"); > + "# Red Hat Linux VNC session startup > script\n". > + "exec /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients\n"); > > chop($host = `uname -n`); > > Tim. > */ > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== SI Reasoning sczjd@yahoo.com gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ajv@greebo.net Tue Sep 4 04:39:07 2001 From: ajv@greebo.net (Andrew van der Stock) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 03:39:07 +0000 Subject: [patch] make vncpasswd create ~/.vnc if it doesn't exist In-Reply-To: <20010903183607.F20060@redhat.com> Message-ID: NO! NO! NO! NO!* Do not EVER trust the environment, particularly when using sprintf() with bounded arrays! This is how we got into all that locale, xmcd, kerberos, dtmail (and so on... the list is endless) bother. Create the directory securely, and test for its existance before you go out and create it. This is how symlink attacks occur. The mode of the .vnc directory should be 700 not, 755. There is no reason to create this directory as 755, as this allows any user to discover the user's VNC password. Test the error result, don't just ignore it! Andrew * :-) in case you feel that I'm being too harsh. But this is about security, so I'm being harsh. -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Tim Waugh Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2001 03:36 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: [patch] make vncpasswd create ~/.vnc if it doesn't exist Here is a patch that makes vncpasswd create ~/.vnc if it doesn't exist, rather than failing with a less than obvious error message. Tim. */ --- vnc_unixsrc/vncpasswd/vncpasswd.c.vncuserdir Tue Aug 17 12:31:42 1999 +++ vnc_unixsrc/vncpasswd/vncpasswd.c Mon Sep 3 18:09:06 2001 @@ -24,9 +24,12 @@ * anyway. */ +#include #include #include #include +#include +#include #include #include "vncauth.h" @@ -38,6 +41,7 @@ int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { char *passwd; char *passwd1; + char passwdDir[256]; char passwdFile[256]; int i; @@ -46,7 +50,8 @@ fprintf(stderr,"Error: no HOME environment variable\n"); exit(1); } - sprintf(passwdFile,"%s/.vnc/passwd",getenv("HOME")); + sprintf(passwdDir,"%s/.vnc",getenv("HOME")); + sprintf(passwdFile,"%s/passwd",passwdDir); } else if (argc == 2) { @@ -78,6 +83,12 @@ } if (strcmp(passwd1, passwd) == 0) { + if (mkdir (passwdDir, (S_IRWXU | S_IRGRP | S_IXGRP | + S_IROTH | S_IXOTH)) == -1 && + errno != EEXIST) { + perror ("~/.vnc"); + exit (1); + } if (vncEncryptAndStorePasswd(passwd, passwdFile) != 0) { fprintf(stderr,"Cannot write password file %s\n",passwdFile); exit(1); --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Asael_Degany@amat.com Tue Sep 4 07:33:40 2001 From: Asael_Degany@amat.com (Asael_Degany@amat.com) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 06:33:40 +0000 Subject: Refresh problem using Internet Explorer to view VNC server that run on Unix station Message-ID: Hi, I have a refresh problem using Internet Explorer 4.0 ( on my P.C. with window NT 4.) to connect to VNC server on my Unix station: When I'm working on any P.C. and drag an application window inside the Explorer window (that display the VNC server) it is not refreshed, therefore the dragged window is spread all over the browser window. I don't experience that problem at all when I'm using VNCviwer that is installed on any P.C. Any solution ? Thanks Asael --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From twaugh@redhat.com Tue Sep 4 10:39:20 2001 From: twaugh@redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 09:39:20 +0000 Subject: [patch] make vncpasswd create ~/.vnc if it doesn't exist In-Reply-To: ; from ajv@greebo.net on Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 12:31:13PM +1000 References: <20010903183607.F20060@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20010904093418.K20060@redhat.com> On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 12:31:13PM +1000, Andrew van der Stock wrote: > NO! NO! NO! NO!* I know what you mean; I was horified myself to learn that the user's .vnc directory has world execute permission. But the passwd file has mode 600 (see the code that creates it in the library). I was just extending the existing convention: take a look at how the vncserver script creates the .vnc directory. > Do not EVER trust the environment, particularly when using sprintf() with > bounded arrays! This is how we got into all that locale, xmcd, kerberos, > dtmail (and so on... the list is endless) bother. Well, to be honest, the risk here is hard to see: * If the user's HOME environment variable is somehow changed by an attacker, they are in trouble anyhow since the VNC library is about to fopen(...,"w") the passwd file. * Otherwise the HOME environment variable is sane, so we should worry about symlink attacks. Wait---a symlink attack on a user, in their own home directory? How? > The mode of the .vnc directory should be 700 not, 755. There is no reason to > create this directory as 755, as this allows any user to discover the user's > VNC password. Although the 'allows any user to discover the user's VNC password' bit is incorrect (see above), I agree that this directory ought to be more secure. That requires a change to the vncserver script as well. > Test the error result, don't just ignore it! Where do I ignore an error result? Thanks for the feedback. Tim. */ [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From christian@i-a.co.uk Tue Sep 4 10:39:26 2001 From: christian@i-a.co.uk (Christian D'Amico) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 09:39:26 +0000 Subject: Problem connecting to VNC Server Message-ID: <002701c1351c$d25d4990$1f00a8c0@ia.co.uk> Hi all, wondering if someone can help me. I've tried using VNC for the first time the other day. I loaded the server software onto my home machine, which has a home network and an ADSL connection through a USB port. The problem is, when I try to connect to either my hostname OR my IP, it won't connect. The thing is though, it works when I try it from another machine on my home network, so I'm doing *something* right, hehe. I've tried connecting from my cousin's machine, but still to no avail. I've also tried setting the session number to something manually rather than automatic, but still no go :/ Has anyone got any recommendations I could try to get this to work? Kind Regards, Christian D'Amico Web Designer Internet Assist Ltd Tel : +44 (0)208 547 3700 Fax : +44 (0)208 547 3600 Web : http://www.i-a.co.uk Email : christian@i-a.co.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From frank.carius@netatwork.de Tue Sep 4 10:50:56 2001 From: frank.carius@netatwork.de (Carius, Frank) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 09:50:56 +0000 Subject: VNC remote install and connection closed Message-ID: <2C4F30BA135431479AA1DAD5BA9B08F41B2BD9@nawsv001.netatwork.d e> Thank you Richard for your feedback, I read your site and ist really good stuff I'll try to adapt these things. On feedback to http://www.darkage.co.uk/vnc/largescale.htm Wir NT4 you can use the Reskit Tool "NETDOM" to query the Domaincontroller f|r a list of all Windows NT Stations in that domain (Computer accounts in the sam) to get a complete list pf Workstations. With Windows 2000 you can of course use "LDIFDE" or "CSVDE" to export the same information from the AD. But i found a more genuine way to push VNC to workstations. Simply create a hidden share on the PDC like "VNC$" and grant everyone create. And than let the user logon script create a file with the following code: If not exist %systemroot%\winvnc.exe echo vncmissing >> \\pdcname\vnc$\%COMPUTERNAME%.vnc If exist %systemroot%\winvnc.exe echo vncmissing >> \\pdcname\vnc$\%COMPUTERNAME%.vncok So you get a list of all computers with VNC installed and not installed. Ist easy to let a AT-Job or a permanent batch running on the DC to check the directory f|r new *.VNC Files and to trigger fastpush for that PC. :-) Software management the light way. To make it better you can use "filever" (ResKit) to check the version of VNC and to send updates etc. W2K makes it easier with Policies to distribute winvnc server -- Frank Carius -------------------------------------------- http://www.NetatWork.de , Riemeke Str 160, 33106 Paderborn Tel +495251 304 600, Fax +495251 304 650 no advertising or spam mails PLEASE!! Franks Exchange FAQ auf http://www.msexchangefaq.de Supportanfragen nur an support@netatwork.de -- > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Harris [mailto:richard.harris@nottscc.gov.uk] > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 12:03 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: VNC remote install and connection closed > > > Frank, > > > VNC running very well. Windows NT4 W2K always as service. > > Installation using "WINVNC -install" is working. I normally > insall it > > "remotely". It works with 3.3.2 but no longer with 3.3.3r9 > > I've got a script that installs VNC remotely to NT4 (with or > without a > domain). Check out www.darkage.co.uk/vnc/ > > Either have a pop with that, or use the commands I've put in to > tweak your batch file. > > > What i to: i create a batch top start as administrator: WINVNC ist > > installed locally as service with a password set Resource Kit Tools > > SC.EXE and REG.EXE are used > > You're on the right track, although the SC command can be a bit of > a bitch to get just right. I use this line: > > SC \\%1 create WinVNC binpath= "%remotetarget%:\Program > Files\ ORL\VNC\WinVNC.exe -service" type= own type= interact > start= auto > > NB: %remotetarget% is a value I pull from the remote machine to > find it's system drive. > > > I know i can schedule a "WINVNC -instal" using AT command > or WMI buw > > AT needs "time" and WMI is not always availible. So any hint, why > > winvnc does not allow me to control the station if i > install it with > > "SC.EXE" ? > > I'd stay away from AT if I were you. Getting the timing just right is > more problematic than it's worth. I found it a hell of a lot > easier to > push VNC on to a machine, rather than have the remote PC install > it at a set time period. > > HTH > Rich > > --------------------------------- > Richard Harris > Environment IT > Tel: 0115 977 4509 > --------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe > vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.htm> l > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From beasley@bigpond.net.au Tue Sep 4 11:53:50 2001 From: beasley@bigpond.net.au (Kevin-John Beasley) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 10:53:50 +0000 Subject: Problem connecting to VNC Server References: <002701c1351c$d25d4990$1f00a8c0@ia.co.uk> Message-ID: <002c01c13526$7bfaade0$0401a8c0@beasley.bpa.nu> See comments below. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian D'Amico" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 6:37 PM Subject: Problem connecting to VNC Server > Hi all, wondering if someone can help me. > > I've tried using VNC for the first time the other day. I loaded the server > software onto my home machine, which has a home network and an ADSL > connection through a USB port. > > The problem is, when I try to connect to either my hostname OR my IP, it > won't connect. The thing is though, it works when I try it from another > machine on my home network, so I'm doing *something* right, hehe. > >From the above it sounds like you are having trouble from connecting outside your network, ie via the internet. Or are you saying some machines on your internal network work while others don't. If you are using the internet make sure your hostname is properly updated in the dns servers and that pinging it works. And please make sure that you are not trying to connect to your internal network IP address. If you cannot ping your machine or you can ping it but still connot connect make sure that the necessary ports are open. Firstly if you are running firewall software you need to unblock these ports. If you are using Win 2k or NT 4 Server these ports can be locked from somewhere within network configuration (i think). If still no go check with your ADSL provider to make sure they do not filter or block certian ports as a security protection feature. Other than that some more info may help so everyone knows exactly what you are trying to do. > I've tried connecting from my cousin's machine, but still to no avail. I've > also tried setting the session number to something manually rather than > automatic, but still no go :/ > > Has anyone got any recommendations I could try to get this to work? > > Kind Regards, > > Christian D'Amico > Web Designer > Internet Assist Ltd > > Tel : +44 (0)208 547 3700 Fax : +44 (0)208 547 3600 > Web : http://www.i-a.co.uk Email : christian@i-a.co.uk > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Tue Sep 4 13:31:44 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 12:31:44 +0000 Subject: vnc as service on w2k Message-ID: Hi out there, being a novice in using vnc I'm doing something wrong or misunderstood: 1. I'm running vnc on a w2k machine as a service which works (tray icon present, service on automatic) however only after someone logged in 2. Obviously, after remote reboot I want to re-log in getting a "sorry" from -.-.:5800 or "authentication failed" from the viewer until logged in. I think I've followed all instructions properly. What am I dooing wrong? Dietmar [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From DavidB@mail.interclean.com Tue Sep 4 14:43:09 2001 From: DavidB@mail.interclean.com (David Brodbeck) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 13:43:09 +0000 Subject: Win2k Locked Workstation Message-ID: Shift-Ctrl-Alt-Del doesn't work when the viewer's running under Win98. You have to use the menu. It works under NT, though. -----Original Message----- From: Eric Gisse [mailto:jowr@sdf.lonestar.org] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 5:19 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Win2k Locked Workstation try shift-ctrl-alt-del At 11:21 AM 8/31/2001 -0700, you wrote: >I have a Win2k workstation at work and lock this station before I leave. At >home I have a Win98 system and using VNC 3.3r. I use the Web browser to >connect, but every time I enter my password, VNC automatically closes. If I >keep my workstation at work open and not locked, the connection gets through >no problem. Only when the Win2k system is locked does this problem arise. >I can connect through the normal Viewer but cannot send Ctl+Alt+Del through >this so it is useless to me. I need the browser.... > >Any suggestion at all would be appreaciated.. > >Thanks > >Roy Bosworth >Senior Manager IT/MIS >818-503-8100 >`.....??`...><(((,o>? >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list >to majordomo@uk.research.att.com >See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html >--------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From kizetoni@hotmail.com Tue Sep 4 15:27:59 2001 From: kizetoni@hotmail.com (Zoran Pantic) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 14:27:59 +0000 Subject: hidden "Start" console - CTRL + ESC sequence References: Message-ID: Hi All, when I am connecting to other windows PC that has Start Console that is set to "Auto Hide", it is very often hard to put the mouse in the right position so it becomes visible again. Normaly in any sort of windows I use CTRL + ESC if I want to access the Start Menu and Console quickly, but in VNC it brings my computer's Start Menu. Is there a way around this? Thanx in advance, Zoran --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From rlhamil@mindwarp.smart.net Tue Sep 4 15:38:52 2001 From: rlhamil@mindwarp.smart.net (Richard L. Hamilton) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 14:38:52 +0000 Subject: [patch] option for vncserver to allow more traditional exiting of X Message-ID: <200109041332.f84DWYN24060@mindwarp.smart.net> The attached patch adds a -wait option to the (Unix) vncserver script, for those who wish exit from twm, CDE logout, etc. to cause Xvnc to be terminated (and its client(s), too). The vncserver script itself also does not exit until then if the -wait option is used. For this to work, the $HOME/.vnc/xstartup script _must_ have as its last line whatever invokes the window manager (or whatever) that one will exit eventually, _without_ a terminating ampersand ("&"). That is, the command to wait on must not be backgrounded. If one doesn't already have a $HOME/.vnc/xstartup file, the changes will also cause the twm line to have (without -wait) or not have (with -wait) the terminating ampersand put in. Of course, it could be left off and it probably wouldn't matter anyway, since (without -wait) the command in vncserver that invokes $HOME/.vnc/xstartup does so in background. Since I'm presently using CDE, instead of "twm", my xstartup file ends with: test -x /etc/dt/config/Xsetup || /usr/dt/config/Xsetup /usr/dt/bin/Xsession which seems to be taking care of everything except the definitions of the copy/paste keys. In particular, logging out of CDE causes dtsession to terminate, which in turn causes the Xsession script to exit, and with the new -wait option, causes Xvnc to be killed. Without -wait (or in the original), the first logout attempt would go to the correct dtsession, but killing it wouldn't affect the server or the CDE window manager. Subsequent attempts would (when using the viewer while sitting at a local CDE desktop) communicate with another instance of dtsession altogether; presumably if it weren't running, the exit attempt would fail with no ToolTalk client listening for the corresponding message. Anyway, anyone else think this -wait option is useful? AFAIK, without using it, it doesn't break any kind of compatibility. And with it, one can get the sort of behavior that I (and others I stumbled across searching Usenet prior to finding this mailing list) seem to want. If it is useful, someone more comfortable with perl than I am might wish to pretty it up a bit; my concern was with getting the desired effect with the least amount of changes, not with Good Perl Scripting Practices. -- ftp> get |fortune 377 I/O error: smart remark generator failed Bogonics: the primary language inside the Beltway mailto:rlhamil@mindwarp.smart.net http://www.smart.net/~rlhamil *** vncserver.orig Tue Sep 4 08:38:53 2001 --- vncserver Tue Sep 4 08:40:34 2001 *************** *** 39,51 **** $vncUserDir = "$ENV{HOME}/.vnc"; $xauthorityFile = "$ENV{HOME}/.Xauthority"; - $defaultXStartup - = ("#!/bin/sh\n\n". - "xrdb \$HOME/.Xresources\n". - "xsetroot -solid grey\n". - "xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title \"\$VNCDESKTOP Desktop\" &\n". - "twm &\n"); - chop($host = `uname -n`); --- 39,44 ---- *************** *** 52,63 **** # Check command line options &ParseOptions("-geometry",1,"-depth",1,"-pixelformat",1,"-name",1,"-kill",1, ! "-help",0,"-h",0,"--help",0); &Usage() if ($opt{'-help'} || $opt{'-h'} || $opt{'--help'}); &Kill() if ($opt{'-kill'}); # Uncomment this line if you want default geometry, depth and pixelformat # to match the current X display: # &GetXDisplayDefaults(); --- 45,70 ---- # Check command line options &ParseOptions("-geometry",1,"-depth",1,"-pixelformat",1,"-name",1,"-kill",1, ! "-help",0,"-h",0,"--help",0,"-wait",0); &Usage() if ($opt{'-help'} || $opt{'-h'} || $opt{'--help'}); &Kill() if ($opt{'-kill'}); + if ($opt{'-wait'}) { + $background=''; + } + else { + $background='&'; + } + + $defaultXStartup + = ("#!/bin/sh\n\n". + "xrdb \$HOME/.Xresources\n". + "xsetroot -solid grey\n". + "xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title \"\$VNCDESKTOP Desktop\" &\n". + "twm $background\n"); + # Uncomment this line if you want default geometry, depth and pixelformat # to match the current X display: # &GetXDisplayDefaults(); *************** *** 191,197 **** } $ENV{VNCDESKTOP}= $desktopName; ! system("$vncUserDir/xstartup >> " . "edString($desktopLog) . " 2>&1 &"); exit; --- 198,207 ---- } $ENV{VNCDESKTOP}= $desktopName; ! system("$vncUserDir/xstartup >> " . "edString($desktopLog) . " 2>&1 $background"); ! if ($opt{'-wait'}) { ! system("vncserver -kill :$displayNumber"); ! } exit; --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From rudi.de.vos@simac.be Tue Sep 4 16:55:02 2001 From: rudi.de.vos@simac.be (Rudi De Vos) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 15:55:02 +0000 Subject: hook video driver Message-ID: Hi, Indeed that is the intention. At this point , I can capture drvbitblt drvcopybits and drvtextout calls(mirror video driver). A shared memory is setup between the video driver and winvnc, so vnc can pass and read some data from the driver. The biggest problem is to find a way to track the window changes using the data provided by thoose drv-functions. There exist a msdn document "Tracking window changes" . But this doc is not clear to me and has only partial code. Any help welcome Rudi -----Original Message----- From: Gianluca Bruni [mailto:gianluca@proximaautomation.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 2:01 PM To: Rudi De Vos Subject: Re: help with vnc video driver Hi, my name is Gianluca, from Italy. I've read your message in VNC forum about use of video driver in Win2k. What do you mean? Are you developing an hook video driver to get the screen updates? If so, please tell me something about that. Thanks Gianluca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From russ@thunderthumbs.net Tue Sep 4 16:57:14 2001 From: russ@thunderthumbs.net (Russ Paton) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 15:57:14 +0000 Subject: vnc as service on w2k In-Reply-To: > Hi out there, > being a novice in using vnc I'm doing something wrong or misunderstood: > 1. I'm running vnc on a w2k machine as a service which works (tray icon > present, service on automatic) > however only after someone logged in > 2. Obviously, after remote reboot I want to re-log in getting a "sorry" from > -.-.:5800 or "authentication > failed" from the viewer until logged in. > I think I've followed all instructions properly. What am I dooing wrong? > Dietmar Hi Dietmar, As long as you've clicked on the shortcut to install vncserver as a service it will work as soon as the network has been brought up on the booting machine. I've installed vnc on several machines across my network and this method works in each and every installation. Regards Russ -- Russ Paton --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From joemacmail@yahoo.com Tue Sep 4 17:00:20 2001 From: joemacmail@yahoo.com (Joe Mac) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 16:00:20 +0000 Subject: Using VNC For Two Systems In-Reply-To: <20010903215100.49971.qmail@web9507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010904145516.88122.qmail@web9601.mail.yahoo.com> I'd like to use VNC for two computers (Win2k) sitting side-by-side. I don't want to see the screen of the second computer on the first, I just want the mouse and keyboard to go to the second computer when I move the pointer off the right hand side of the first machine. Then when I move it off the left side of the second machine, control goes back to the first. Is there a way to do this? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From david.m.fisher@eds.com Tue Sep 4 17:46:03 2001 From: david.m.fisher@eds.com (Fisher, Dave) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 16:46:03 +0000 Subject: Interactively Disable Local Keyboard and Mouse Message-ID: <8AA870658244D4119AF600508BDF0A3604BC6502@usahm014.exmi01.ex ch.eds.com> I am using WinVNC on several NT PCs and I have set them all up to disable the local keyboard when I access them with VNCViewer. The problem is when I view one of them and someone is currently using it, It looks to them as if the PC locked up. I know I can enable the keyboard and mouse to work while I access the PC, but if I want to update something on the PC I would like to disable them while I am doing the update. Does anyone know of a way to interactively disable and enable the local keyboard and mouse? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Tue Sep 4 18:02:35 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 17:02:35 +0000 Subject: vnc as service on w2k In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000501c1355a$4e14cf80$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> It could be that you have set the user password not the default. this can be reached via start button -> programs -> vnc -> administrative tools -> show default settings. If there is a password shown by **** then just click ok. if not set it to the same as you are currently using and ok it. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 7:30 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: vnc as service on w2k Hi out there, being a novice in using vnc I'm doing something wrong or misunderstood: 1. I'm running vnc on a w2k machine as a service which works (tray icon present, service on automatic) however only after someone logged in 2. Obviously, after remote reboot I want to re-log in getting a "sorry" from -.-.:5800 or "authentication failed" from the viewer until logged in. I think I've followed all instructions properly. What am I dooing wrong? Dietmar [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sczjd@yahoo.com Tue Sep 4 18:17:28 2001 From: sczjd@yahoo.com (SI Reasoning) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 17:17:28 +0000 Subject: [patch] make vncpasswd create ~/.vnc if it doesn't exist In-Reply-To: <20010904093418.K20060@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20010904161011.48488.qmail@web9506.mail.yahoo.com> --- Tim Waugh wrote: > On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 12:31:13PM +1000, Andrew van > der Stock wrote: > > > The mode of the .vnc directory should be 700 not, > 755. There is no reason to > > create this directory as 755, as this allows any > user to discover the user's > > VNC password. > > Although the 'allows any user to discover the user's > VNC password' bit > is incorrect (see above), I agree that this > directory ought to be more > secure. That requires a change to the vncserver > script as well. > The biggest problem I see is that the password script can be easily deleted, then recreated... this would allow an attacker to get access to the gui desktop for a while (although it would be obvious someone has been in the system). They could thereby compromise the network or if the user that was cracked had enough authority, they could create there own account and replace the old password. This is way too easy! ===== SI Reasoning sczjd@yahoo.com gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Tue Sep 4 18:25:32 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 17:25:32 +0000 Subject: vnc as service on w2k In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Russ, I have inverted now the role of the w2k machines an it works (inversely). I have uninstalled the service on the machine it did not work in and re-installed it - no cigar I have set up a third pc and cross-checked it, hence I could identify that it won't work with the first I tried to use as a (vnc) server. Now, I know it could be many reasons why that is the case - despite the fact that I can't see any substantial difference between the three PCs - has anybody a clue where I could start investigating on that particular system (on which it won't work) why can't log in (i) after reboot and (ii) after log-off a n d disconnect while I can (iii) re-login if I donot disconnect? Thanx for whatsoever hint Dietmar -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Russ Paton Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 3:21 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: vnc as service on w2k > Hi out there, > being a novice in using vnc I'm doing something wrong or misunderstood: > 1. I'm running vnc on a w2k machine as a service which works (tray icon > present, service on automatic) > however only after someone logged in > 2. Obviously, after remote reboot I want to re-log in getting a "sorry" from > -.-.:5800 or "authentication > failed" from the viewer until logged in. > I think I've followed all instructions properly. What am I dooing wrong? > Dietmar Hi Dietmar, As long as you've clicked on the shortcut to install vncserver as a service it will work as soon as the network has been brought up on the booting machine. I've installed vnc on several machines across my network and this method works in each and every installation. Regards Russ -- Russ Paton --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Tue Sep 4 18:26:11 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 17:26:11 +0000 Subject: Interactively Disable Local Keyboard and Mouse In-Reply-To: <8AA870658244D4119AF600508BDF0A3604BC6502@usahm014.exmi01.e x ch.eds.com> Message-ID: <000e01c1355d$96aaef60$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> First off, why don't you just notify the users when you will be doing updates. How would you like it if your boss comes by and said get out of your chair, I am using your system. Since the makers of VNC thought of this, There is an option you can set in the registry for a message to be displayed stating something about someone is taking control of this system do you want to let them... (what is even better is you can set it to disconnect or accept if it times out (no one is there)). Check the vnc doc, or the new version of Tight has this as an option on the advanced settings screen for the server. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Fisher, Dave Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 11:40 AM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: Interactively Disable Local Keyboard and Mouse I am using WinVNC on several NT PCs and I have set them all up to disable the local keyboard when I access them with VNCViewer. The problem is when I view one of them and someone is currently using it, It looks to them as if the PC locked up. I know I can enable the keyboard and mouse to work while I access the PC, but if I want to update something on the PC I would like to disable them while I am doing the update. Does anyone know of a way to interactively disable and enable the local keyboard and mouse? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From twaugh@redhat.com Tue Sep 4 18:27:40 2001 From: twaugh@redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 17:27:40 +0000 Subject: [patch] make vncpasswd create ~/.vnc if it doesn't exist In-Reply-To: <20010904161011.48488.qmail@web9506.mail.yahoo.com>; from sczjd@yahoo.com on Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 09:10:11AM -0700 References: <20010904093418.K20060@redhat.com> <20010904161011.48488.qmail@web9506.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010904172211.A20060@redhat.com> On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 09:10:11AM -0700, SI Reasoning wrote: > The biggest problem I see is that the password script > can be easily deleted, then recreated... How? What am I missing? Tim. */ [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sczjd@yahoo.com Tue Sep 4 18:58:51 2001 From: sczjd@yahoo.com (SI Reasoning) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 17:58:51 +0000 Subject: [patch] make vncpasswd create ~/.vnc if it doesn't exist In-Reply-To: <20010904172211.A20060@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20010904165250.72493.qmail@web9505.mail.yahoo.com> I reacted too soon... I missed the part about the password file being 600. --- Tim Waugh wrote: > On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 09:10:11AM -0700, SI > Reasoning wrote: > > > The biggest problem I see is that the password > script > > can be easily deleted, then recreated... > > How? What am I missing? > > Tim. > */ > > [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type > application/pgp-signature] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== SI Reasoning sczjd@yahoo.com gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From stefane.bridy@bigfoot.com Tue Sep 4 20:00:45 2001 From: stefane.bridy@bigfoot.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?St=E9fane_Bridy?=) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 19:00:45 +0000 Subject: Task bar menu : ctrl-escape , how ? Message-ID: <3B95320A.11444.B02450@localhost> Hello I think it's impossible to display the Start Menu remotely, as the Ctrl- Esc brings up the menu and task bar on the local computer. On the remote computer, I don't have a program running which stays on top, unless Ctrl-Escape is depressed. But not working as I said. It would be nice to implement, in the VNC menu a "Send Ctrl+Escape" item, as "Send Ctrl-Alt-Del" already exists. Tell me if this is planned, or if there is another way, please. Thanx in advance. Stifane from Switzerland --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From zmargareten@CJH.org Tue Sep 4 22:48:32 2001 From: zmargareten@CJH.org (Zalman Margareten) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 21:48:32 +0000 Subject: SOCKS 5 support added to Win32 VNC Viewer Message-ID: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E511268E@CFJH> Directly, http://www.seanster.com/vnc/vncviewer.exe -----Original Message----- From: Ceri Hankey [mailto:ccah@thegreen.co.uk] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 6:56 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: SOCKS 5 support added to Win32 VNC Viewer Sorry, but my proxy server tells me for the nth time ... Error : Can't connect to host www.google.com on port 80! Reason : Connect timeout. Error detected by WinProxy 1.4 If you can mail it to me at ceri_hankey@wanadoo.fr Thank you very much! Regards Ceri Hankey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Seanster" To: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 5:57 AM Subject: Re: SOCKS 5 support added to Win32 VNC Viewer > Just a brief net outage. I can mail it if anyone has trouble beyond that. > -Sean > > > On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 00:51:38 +0200, you wrote: > > >I cannot get thru to your site ... > >http://www.Seanster.com/vnc/ > > > >Can you give another source for your stuff? > > > >Thanks > > > >Ceri Hankey > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of vncviewer.exe.url] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From david.m.fisher@eds.com Tue Sep 4 22:48:34 2001 From: david.m.fisher@eds.com (Fisher, Dave) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 21:48:34 +0000 Subject: Interactively Disable Local Keyboard and Mouse Message-ID: <8AA870658244D4119AF600508BDF0A3604BC6503@usahm014.exmi01.ex ch.eds.com> These are shop floor PCs that I want to be able to view from my desk without inhibiting input from someone on the shop floor if the are using it. If I see it is not being used. I want to lock out input from the local keyboard and then take over control of it. The registry settings you talk about will not work since the query option will only give me access to the PC if someone is at the PC and using it. I do not want to access it then, I want to access it if no one is there. If no one is there, then no one can accept my request and I will not be able to access the PC. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Palocz [mailto:spalocz@tgtsolutions.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 12:21 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Interactively Disable Local Keyboard and Mouse First off, why don't you just notify the users when you will be doing updates. How would you like it if your boss comes by and said get out of your chair, I am using your system. Since the makers of VNC thought of this, There is an option you can set in the registry for a message to be displayed stating something about someone is taking control of this system do you want to let them... (what is even better is you can set it to disconnect or accept if it times out (no one is there)). Check the vnc doc, or the new version of Tight has this as an option on the advanced settings screen for the server. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Fisher, Dave Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 11:40 AM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: Interactively Disable Local Keyboard and Mouse I am using WinVNC on several NT PCs and I have set them all up to disable the local keyboard when I access them with VNCViewer. The problem is when I view one of them and someone is currently using it, It looks to them as if the PC locked up. I know I can enable the keyboard and mouse to work while I access the PC, but if I want to update something on the PC I would like to disable them while I am doing the update. Does anyone know of a way to interactively disable and enable the local keyboard and mouse? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From lindac65@earthlink.net Tue Sep 4 23:19:48 2001 From: lindac65@earthlink.net (Linda Worthington) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 22:19:48 +0000 Subject: Ctrl Alt Del Message-ID: <004d01c13586$d81c2ee0$676412ac@LINDA500> I am running a W2K server with VNC 3.3.3. Is there any way that a system can be accessed with VNC as a service, running but the system is locked or has been rebooted? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From lindac65@earthlink.net Tue Sep 4 23:30:39 2001 From: lindac65@earthlink.net (Linda Worthington) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 22:30:39 +0000 Subject: vnc as service on w2k References: Message-ID: <00c401c13588$728381d0$676412ac@LINDA500> Is there any way, once a system has been rebooted, and VNC is running as a service, to access the machine? If the machine is on the network it is visable even at the login screen so VNC should be running since it is a service. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russ Paton" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 9:21 AM Subject: Re: vnc as service on w2k > > Hi out there, > > being a novice in using vnc I'm doing something wrong or misunderstood: > > 1. I'm running vnc on a w2k machine as a service which works (tray icon > > present, service on automatic) > > however only after someone logged in > > 2. Obviously, after remote reboot I want to re-log in getting a "sorry" from > > -.-.:5800 or "authentication > > failed" from the viewer until logged in. > > I think I've followed all instructions properly. What am I dooing wrong? > > Dietmar > > Hi Dietmar, > > As long as you've clicked on the shortcut to install vncserver as a service > it will work as soon as the network has been brought up on the booting > machine. I've installed vnc on several machines across my network and > this method works in each and every installation. > > Regards > > Russ > -- > Russ Paton > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From mjackson@wrc.xerox.com Tue Sep 4 23:47:15 2001 From: mjackson@wrc.xerox.com (Mark Jackson) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 22:47:15 +0000 Subject: Sun Meta key handling in VNC Message-ID: <200109042143.RAA06771@yngvi.wrc.xerox.com> I must be doing something stupid, because if this were a real problem it would surely be in the FAQ: Sun's Cut, Copy, and Paste keys can be emulated with the key combinations Meta-x, Meta-c, and Meta-v. When running an X server such as Xoftware on PC hardware one uses Alt-x, Alt-c, and Alt-v instead. These mappings work when using VNC, but only for *some* Solaris applications. That is, I can run vncviewer from a Solaris box and use the Meta key combinations, or run vncviewer from a Wintel box (NT or 98) and use the Alt key combinations, and achieve the Cut, Copy, Paste function in, for example, OpenWindows Textedit. However these same combinations fail in, for example, OpenWindows Mailtool compose windows (a bare x, c, or v is inserted instead). To reiterate, when working directly (not through VNC) the Meta key combinations work in all programs, as do the Alt key combinations when working from a Wintel box using Xoftware. What is different about the way VNC handles the Alt or Meta key (either server-side or client-side), and how do I get it to stop? -- Mark Jackson - http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson Physics is like sex. Sure it has some practical results, but that's not why we do it. - Richard Feynman --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Wed Sep 5 00:10:46 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 23:10:46 +0000 Subject: vnc as service on w2k In-Reply-To: <00c401c13588$728381d0$676412ac@LINDA500> Message-ID: The funny thing is that the system could be pinged, ftped, networkneighourhooded httped etc, except one thing: once either (vnc-) disconnected after local or remote log out of the active user or reboot of the remote systeme it wouldn't accept any login. As mentioned in an earlier posting miraculous things happened after a third independent system was added to the network and nothing else was changed, it worked - it still works, and I can't reproduce the problem any more. Appologies to the community - I'm simply baffled. -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Linda Worthington Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 11:27 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: vnc as service on w2k Is there any way, once a system has been rebooted, and VNC is running as a service, to access the machine? If the machine is on the network it is visable even at the login screen so VNC should be running since it is a service. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russ Paton" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 9:21 AM Subject: Re: vnc as service on w2k > > Hi out there, > > being a novice in using vnc I'm doing something wrong or misunderstood: > > 1. I'm running vnc on a w2k machine as a service which works (tray icon > > present, service on automatic) > > however only after someone logged in > > 2. Obviously, after remote reboot I want to re-log in getting a "sorry" from > > -.-.:5800 or "authentication > > failed" from the viewer until logged in. > > I think I've followed all instructions properly. What am I dooing wrong? > > Dietmar > > Hi Dietmar, > > As long as you've clicked on the shortcut to install vncserver as a service > it will work as soon as the network has been brought up on the booting > machine. I've installed vnc on several machines across my network and > this method works in each and every installation. > > Regards > > Russ > -- > Russ Paton > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From throopw@sheol.org Wed Sep 5 00:34:59 2001 From: throopw@sheol.org (Wayne Throop) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 23:34:59 +0000 Subject: status of scaling Message-ID: <999642183@sheol.org> I'm not sure what the current status of support for scaling on various platforms, or in proxy. Could somebody summarize it? My interest in scaling is from either a Windows CE device to a linux desktop (hence, server-side or proxy-based scaling), or linux laptop to linux desktop (just to make operation more convenient than fishing around with a viewport). With these interests, it would seem that a dedicated proxy process that one could start up on demand to do scaling for the various sizes involved, and which would do antialiasing so that text would remain minimally readable when scaled down modestly (ie, 1280x1024 -> 1023x768 or similar). Neither of these (proxy packaging, or useful antialiasing / interpolation) seem to be done at all, let alone in the linux/unix environment. I'd be delighted to be wrong about that... can anybody help with pointers? Wayne Throop throopw@sheol.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeff.veit@tanasity.com Wed Sep 5 01:45:56 2001 From: jeff.veit@tanasity.com (Jeff Veit) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 00:45:56 +0000 Subject: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit Message-ID: <004d01c1359b$fe2b7b30$d190fd3e@bigboy2kpro> Hi there, Running a 700 Mhz Athlon with a 3dfx Voodoo 3 display adapter. Lots of disk space. 128MB memory. Win2k Pro, service pack 2. No known issues with the hardware configuration. If I start my machine, start VNC in app mode, wait till the icon appears on my task bar, and then right mouse click on the icon, and Exit, about 2 out of 3 times I get an immediate reboot of my machine. No shutdown - it's as if I pressed the reset key. I had thought it was limited to this circumstance, but I just managed to whack out my machine after some hours of running when I tried to Exit VNC. No mention of this in the mailing list that I can find so I thought I'd log it. Regards, Jeff Veit http://www.tanasity.com/ - Tanasity develops software and net applications http://www.tangledtime.com/ - Discussion about the net, software and business - come and contribute. Technophiles, it's PHP. Feel free to discuss the merits of server side development languages and environments. Tanasity Tel: +44 (0)1223 721513 Email: jeff.veit@tanasity.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ajv@greebo.net Wed Sep 5 02:04:29 2001 From: ajv@greebo.net (Andrew van der Stock) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 01:04:29 +0000 Subject: [patch] make vncpasswd create ~/.vnc if it doesn't exist In-Reply-To: <20010904093418.K20060@redhat.com> Message-ID: It'd still be better if both this code and the install script are modified to create files and directories with effectively "u=rwX,go=". The risk from unchecked environment variables could be in the future if someone decides to package VNC as a setuid or setgid program and trusts the current code base (incorrectly but...) implicitly. It's easy to do the necessary checking to prevent a buffer overrun. In my opinion, this is doubly true of any portion of the program that is dedicated to security management. Yes, I was a bit hasty in my last statement. You do check the result (me bad!). Andrew -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Tim Waugh Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2001 18:34 To: Andrew van der Stock Cc: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: [patch] make vncpasswd create ~/.vnc if it doesn't exist On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 12:31:13PM +1000, Andrew van der Stock wrote: > NO! NO! NO! NO!* I know what you mean; I was horified myself to learn that the user's .vnc directory has world execute permission. But the passwd file has mode 600 (see the code that creates it in the library). I was just extending the existing convention: take a look at how the vncserver script creates the .vnc directory. > Do not EVER trust the environment, particularly when using sprintf() with > bounded arrays! This is how we got into all that locale, xmcd, kerberos, > dtmail (and so on... the list is endless) bother. Well, to be honest, the risk here is hard to see: * If the user's HOME environment variable is somehow changed by an attacker, they are in trouble anyhow since the VNC library is about to fopen(...,"w") the passwd file. * Otherwise the HOME environment variable is sane, so we should worry about symlink attacks. Wait---a symlink attack on a user, in their own home directory? How? > The mode of the .vnc directory should be 700 not, 755. There is no reason to > create this directory as 755, as this allows any user to discover the user's > VNC password. Although the 'allows any user to discover the user's VNC password' bit is incorrect (see above), I agree that this directory ought to be more secure. That requires a change to the vncserver script as well. > Test the error result, don't just ignore it! Where do I ignore an error result? Thanks for the feedback. Tim. */ [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gbendotti@agric.wa.gov.au Wed Sep 5 02:06:39 2001 From: gbendotti@agric.wa.gov.au (Bendotti, Gerard) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 01:06:39 +0000 Subject: Task bar menu : ctrl-escape , how ? Message-ID: <2BCD8A1EC385D311AE9B00062950091901F00A2B@agspsrv19.agric.wa .gov.au> It is a bit clunky, but send ctrl down, hit the [Ecs] key, send ctrl up works for me. Gerard > -----Original Message----- > From: Stifane Bridy [SMTP:stefane.bridy@bigfoot.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 1:57 AM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Task bar menu : ctrl-escape , how ? > > Hello > > I think it's impossible to display the Start Menu remotely, as the Ctrl- > Esc brings up the menu and task bar on the local computer. > > On the remote computer, I don't have a program running which > stays on top, unless Ctrl-Escape is depressed. But not working as I > said. > > It would be nice to implement, in the VNC menu a "Send > Ctrl+Escape" item, as "Send Ctrl-Alt-Del" already exists. > > Tell me if this is planned, or if there is another way, please. > > Thanx in advance. > > Stifane from Switzerland > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pkrala@vsc.teksystems.com Wed Sep 5 02:44:25 2001 From: pkrala@vsc.teksystems.com (Peter Krala) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 01:44:25 +0000 Subject: Using VNC For Two Systems Message-ID: If I understand what you are trying to do correctly, probably the easiest way to do this would be take advantage of Win2K support for multiple monitors: Have PC1 configured with the two monitors. Use PC1 to connect to PC2 (which can be located anywhere at this point). Monitor1-on-PC1 would be your regular desktop (or whatever) and Monitor2-on-PC1 would be a VNC session to PC2. When the mouse moves to Monitor2-on-PC1, it will able to transfer keyboard/mouse to PC2 via the VNC session. In principal you should be able to do this up to the maximum number of moniotrs supported by Win2K. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Mac Date: Tuesday, September 4, 2001 10:55 am Subject: Using VNC For Two Systems > I'd like to use VNC for two computers (Win2k) sitting > side-by-side. I don't want to see the screen of the > second computer on the first, I just want the mouse > and keyboard to go to the second computer when I move > the pointer off the right hand side of the first > machine. Then when I move it off the left side of the > second machine, control goes back to the first. > > Is there a way to do this? > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! > Messengerhttp://im.yahoo.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jowr@sdf.lonestar.org Wed Sep 5 03:15:56 2001 From: jowr@sdf.lonestar.org (Eric Gisse) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 02:15:56 +0000 Subject: hidden "Start" console - CTRL + ESC sequence In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010904171316.02309910@mail.freeshell.org> what you do is add shift to any key sequence that windows captures shift control alt del shift alt tab shift control escape control C/V/P doesnt need shift because windows doesnt capture it hope this helps At 03:21 PM 9/4/2001 +0200, you wrote: >Hi All, > >when I am connecting to other windows PC that has Start Console that is set to >"Auto Hide", it is very often hard to put the mouse in the right position so >it becomes visible again. Normaly in any sort of windows I use CTRL + ESC if I >want to access the Start Menu and Console quickly, but in VNC it brings my >computer's Start Menu. > >Is there a way around this? > >Thanx in advance, > > Zoran >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list >to majordomo@uk.research.att.com >See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html >--------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jowr@sdf.lonestar.org Wed Sep 5 03:18:27 2001 From: jowr@sdf.lonestar.org (Eric Gisse) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 02:18:27 +0000 Subject: Task bar menu : ctrl-escape , how ? In-Reply-To: <3B95320A.11444.B02450@localhost> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010904171450.00aef010@mail.freeshell.org> shift control escape or code it into VNCviewer :) At 07:56 PM 9/4/2001 +0200, you wrote: >Hello > >I think it's impossible to display the Start Menu remotely, as the Ctrl- >Esc brings up the menu and task bar on the local computer. > >On the remote computer, I don't have a program running which >stays on top, unless Ctrl-Escape is depressed. But not working as I >said. > >It would be nice to implement, in the VNC menu a "Send >Ctrl+Escape" item, as "Send Ctrl-Alt-Del" already exists. > >Tell me if this is planned, or if there is another way, please. > >Thanx in advance. > > Stifane from Switzerland >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list >to majordomo@uk.research.att.com >See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html >--------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sbest@best.com Wed Sep 5 07:28:12 2001 From: sbest@best.com (Scott C. Best) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 06:28:12 +0000 Subject: New user In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Spencer: Heya. Sorry for the late reply. Since you get as far as the password prompt, it doesn't sound as if any of the VPN setup is getting in the way. My experience with the viewer "turning all black and then shutting down" suggests to try a different viewer: the the browser, the TightVNC viewer or Tridia's. Unfortunately, they do not seem to behave exactly the same when I run them across SSH tunnels; perhaps you'll see the same effect. Hope this helps! -Scott > Here is my setup. > Corporate- NT Server, BDC running behind a Linksys BEFSR41 nat router. > Public IP on the Wan side of the Linksys router. Forwarding ports 80, 25, > 110, and 1723 (for Linksys to work with VPN) to the 192.168.xxx.xxx NT BDC. > > Remote- NT Workstation, running behind a Linksys BEFSR41 nat router, dynamic > public IP (which has not changed in months). > > The Problem: > I have loaded WinVNC onto that server and can use the Win 98 client viewer > while on the local LAN. However, when on the remote NT Workstation I can > successfully connect to Corporate, but I cannot successfully run the WinNT > VNC client. I can enter the IP address of the remote machine, I get prompted > for a password and the remote screen initiates, then turns all black, and > then shuts down. > > Question: > Has anyone successfully connected VNC via a VPN tunnel of any type, and > specifically the type described above. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From rudi.de.vos@simac.be Wed Sep 5 09:37:47 2001 From: rudi.de.vos@simac.be (Rudi De Vos) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 08:37:47 +0000 Subject: hook video driver Message-ID: Look at the code at www.codeguru.com dll apihijack -----Original Message----- From: Gianluca Bruni [mailto:gianluca@proximaautomation.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 7:20 PM To: Rudi De Vos Subject: R: hook video driver Hi, thaks for reply. I apologize I can't help you. I'm a Windows programmer but I have not tools to develop video drivers (I guess you use something like SDDK or similar). Your approach works in WinNT/Win2K. Do you know how to hook video driver under Win95/Win98? Another strategy could be, as I read in WinVNC FAQ, to hook GDI32.DLL. What do you think? Bye Gianluca -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Rudi De Vos < rudi.de.vos@simac.be> A: Gianluca Bruni < gianluca@proximaautomation.com> Cc: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com < vnc-list@uk.research.att.com> Data: martedl 4 settembre 2001 16.49 Oggetto: hook video driver Hi, Indeed that is the intention. At this point , I can capture drvbitblt drvcopybits and drvtextout calls(mirror video driver). A shared memory is setup between the video driver and winvnc, so vnc can pass and read some data from the driver. The biggest problem is to find a way to track the window changes using the data provided by thoose drv-functions. There exist a msdn document "Tracking window changes" . But this doc is not clear to me and has only partial code. Any help welcome Rudi -----Original Message----- From: Gianluca Bruni [mailto:gianluca@proximaautomation.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 2:01 PM To: Rudi De Vos Subject: Re: help with vnc video driver Hi, my name is Gianluca, from Italy. I've read your message in VNC forum about use of video driver in Win2k. What do you mean? Are you developing an hook video driver to get the screen updates? If so, please tell me something about that. Thanks Gianluca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From beasley@bigpond.net.au Wed Sep 5 11:09:37 2001 From: beasley@bigpond.net.au (Kevin-John Beasley) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 10:09:37 +0000 Subject: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit References: <004d01c1359b$fe2b7b30$d190fd3e@bigboy2kpro> Message-ID: <003001c135e9$8734a170$0401a8c0@beasley.bpa.nu> Check your system settings and cmake sure that the machine does not auto-reboot after a blue screen of death. I had a server doing something like this when loading a specific program and what I found was that the memory dump was so quick I never saw the blue screen. If that's not the problem I guess someone who knows more about the VNC coding will need to look at this as I have no idea. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Veit" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:46 AM Subject: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit > Hi there, > > Running a 700 Mhz Athlon with a 3dfx Voodoo 3 display adapter. Lots of disk > space. 128MB memory. Win2k Pro, service pack 2. No known issues with the > hardware configuration. > > If I start my machine, start VNC in app mode, wait till the icon appears on my > task bar, and then right mouse click on the icon, and Exit, about 2 out of 3 > times I get an immediate reboot of my machine. No shutdown - it's as if I > pressed the reset key. > > I had thought it was limited to this circumstance, but I just managed to whack > out my machine after some hours of running when I tried to Exit VNC. > > No mention of this in the mailing list that I can find so I thought I'd log > it. > > Regards, > > Jeff Veit > > http://www.tanasity.com/ - Tanasity develops software and net applications > http://www.tangledtime.com/ - Discussion about the net, software and business > - come and contribute. Technophiles, it's PHP. Feel free to discuss the merits > of server side development languages and environments. > > Tanasity > Tel: +44 (0)1223 721513 > Email: jeff.veit@tanasity.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From kizetoni@hotmail.com Wed Sep 5 11:27:32 2001 From: kizetoni@hotmail.com (Zoran Pantic) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 10:27:32 +0000 Subject: hidden "Start" console - CTRL + ESC sequence References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010904171316.02309910@mail.freeshell.org> Message-ID: Eric, thanx for the help. But, I tried those things you suggested, and the only one that works is the first one; both shift+alt+tab and shift+ctrl+escape are executing on my win2000pro viewer machine, and not on the vnc server machine. It is strange that the first one works, and two others don't....? Regards, Zoran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Gisse" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 3:14 AM Subject: Re: hidden "Start" console - CTRL + ESC sequence > what you do is add shift to any key sequence that windows captures > > shift control alt del > shift alt tab > shift control escape > > control C/V/P doesnt need shift because windows doesnt capture it > > hope this helps --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Wed Sep 5 11:29:05 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 10:29:05 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available References: Message-ID: <000b01c1357b$c5b49400$0201a8c0@athlon1000> Hi All, A new version of VNC Commander is available for download. I have incorporated some of your ideas into this release, such as: Improved details view, now has sort arrows on the column headers, and it remembers where you left it last. Display name does not change when editing the server address. One connection can be set to autoconnect when the program is started. Large Icon view is now sorted. And other little things. You can download it for free at: http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com Ciao, Tony Caduto --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From kizetoni@hotmail.com Wed Sep 5 11:39:38 2001 From: kizetoni@hotmail.com (Zoran Pantic) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 10:39:38 +0000 Subject: Bug report - Win2k machine reboots References: <004d01c1359b$fe2b7b30$d190fd3e@bigboy2kpro> <003001c135e9$8734a170$0401a8c0@beasley.bpa.nu> Message-ID: I have the same problem with my win2000pro sp2 machine, and that problem was there before I had sp2, and even before I had VNC. On our little LAN there are other computers who have VNC running the whole time and no problems, ever! I can see in a event viewer that "machine was restarted after a bugcheck", but to me it looks exactly like I pressed hardware reset key. I have fought against this problem (that occurs occasionaly - 2 or 3 times in one day, and then a pause for 10 days or even a month) for so many months now, that I learned to live with this problem (and developed almost unconcous reaction on my left hand, called "CTRL + S sequence" :o) If anyone ever comes to solve this problem, please post it somewhere. Now I even started to think about possible relation between computers hardware and some program(s) (I have IBM ThinkPad 600X laptop) - that's how desperate one can get not being able to solve a problem that occurs occasionally, not obviously related to a visible cause. :o) Regards, Zoran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin-John Beasley" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 11:02 AM Subject: Re: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit > Check your system settings and cmake sure that the machine does not > auto-reboot after a blue screen of death. I had a server doing something > like this when loading a specific program and what I found was that the > memory dump was so quick I never saw the blue screen. If that's not the > problem I guess someone who knows more about the VNC coding will need to > look at this as I have no idea. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Veit" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:46 AM > Subject: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit > > > > Hi there, > > > > Running a 700 Mhz Athlon with a 3dfx Voodoo 3 display adapter. Lots of > disk > > space. 128MB memory. Win2k Pro, service pack 2. No known issues with the > > hardware configuration. > > > > If I start my machine, start VNC in app mode, wait till the icon appears > on my > > task bar, and then right mouse click on the icon, and Exit, about 2 out of > 3 > > times I get an immediate reboot of my machine. No shutdown - it's as if I > > pressed the reset key. > > > > I had thought it was limited to this circumstance, but I just managed to > whack > > out my machine after some hours of running when I tried to Exit VNC. > > > > No mention of this in the mailing list that I can find so I thought I'd > log > > it. > > > > Regards, > > > > Jeff Veit > > > > http://www.tanasity.com/ - Tanasity develops software and net applications > > http://www.tangledtime.com/ - Discussion about the net, software and > business > > - come and contribute. Technophiles, it's PHP. Feel free to discuss the > merits > > of server side development languages and environments. > > > > Tanasity > > Tel: +44 (0)1223 721513 > > Email: jeff.veit@tanasity.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeff.veit@tanasity.com Wed Sep 5 11:47:06 2001 From: jeff.veit@tanasity.com (Jeff Veit) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 10:47:06 +0000 Subject: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit References: <004d01c1359b$fe2b7b30$d190fd3e@bigboy2kpro> <003001c135e9$8734a170$0401a8c0@beasley.bpa.nu> Message-ID: <008b01c135f0$130fa4a0$d190fd3e@bigboy2kpro> Thanks, Yeah I do auto reboot on. It's quite possible that's what's happening - I've got it set to only write a small memory dump. I'll switch auto reboot off and see what happens. Thanks again. Jeff http://www.tanasity.com/ - Tanasity develops software and net applications http://www.tangledtime.com/ - Discussion about the net, software and business - come and contribute. Technophiles, it's PHP. Feel free to discuss the merits of server side development languages and environments. Tanasity Tel: +44 (0)1223 721513 Email: jeff.veit@tanasity.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin-John Beasley" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:02 AM Subject: Re: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit > Check your system settings and cmake sure that the machine does not > auto-reboot after a blue screen of death. I had a server doing something > like this when loading a specific program and what I found was that the > memory dump was so quick I never saw the blue screen. If that's not the > problem I guess someone who knows more about the VNC coding will need to > look at this as I have no idea. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Veit" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:46 AM > Subject: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit > > > > Hi there, > > > > Running a 700 Mhz Athlon with a 3dfx Voodoo 3 display adapter. Lots of > disk > > space. 128MB memory. Win2k Pro, service pack 2. No known issues with the > > hardware configuration. > > > > If I start my machine, start VNC in app mode, wait till the icon appears > on my > > task bar, and then right mouse click on the icon, and Exit, about 2 out of > 3 > > times I get an immediate reboot of my machine. No shutdown - it's as if I > > pressed the reset key. > > > > I had thought it was limited to this circumstance, but I just managed to > whack > > out my machine after some hours of running when I tried to Exit VNC. > > > > No mention of this in the mailing list that I can find so I thought I'd > log > > it. > > > > Regards, > > > > Jeff Veit > > > > http://www.tanasity.com/ - Tanasity develops software and net applications > > http://www.tangledtime.com/ - Discussion about the net, software and > business > > - come and contribute. Technophiles, it's PHP. Feel free to discuss the > merits > > of server side development languages and environments. > > > > Tanasity > > Tel: +44 (0)1223 721513 > > Email: jeff.veit@tanasity.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From yan@cardinalengineering.com Wed Sep 5 12:19:36 2001 From: yan@cardinalengineering.com (Yan Seiner) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 11:19:36 +0000 Subject: Bug report - Win2k machine reboots References: <004d01c1359b$fe2b7b30$d190fd3e@bigboy2kpro> <003001c135e9$8734a170$0401a8c0@beasley.bpa.nu> Message-ID: <3B95FBC7.D7A1BA40@cardinalengineering.com> I fought a similar problem on a linux-based toshiba laptop. I finally solved the problem by turning off as much of the power saving stuff as possible. I would disable all power management, sound, multimedia, etc. and see if the problem persists. Then enable one at a time. I've found apm to be the source of more evil reboots and freezes than almost anything else. --Yan Zoran Pantic wrote: > > I have the same problem with my win2000pro sp2 machine, and that problem was > there before I had sp2, and even before I had VNC. On our little LAN there are > other computers who have VNC running the whole time and no problems, ever! > > I can see in a event viewer that "machine was restarted after a bugcheck", but > to me it looks exactly like I pressed hardware reset key. > > I have fought against this problem (that occurs occasionaly - 2 or 3 times in > one day, and then a pause for 10 days or even a month) for so many months now, > that I learned to live with this problem (and developed almost unconcous > reaction on my left hand, called "CTRL + S sequence" :o) > > If anyone ever comes to solve this problem, please post it somewhere. Now I > even started to think about possible relation between computers hardware and > some program(s) (I have IBM ThinkPad 600X laptop) - that's how desperate one > can get not being able to solve a problem that occurs occasionally, not > obviously related to a visible cause. :o) > > Regards, > > Zoran --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jnw22@cam.ac.uk Wed Sep 5 12:20:42 2001 From: jnw22@cam.ac.uk (James ''Wez'' Weatherall) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 11:20:42 +0000 Subject: hook video driver Message-ID: <004801c135f3$f22c9e60$1062a981@eng.cam.ac.uk> Rudi, I noticed your mail to the VNC list regarding a hooking video driver. >From your mail, it sounds as though you have this on Windows 2000/NT. Is that correct? You mentioned some confusion in tracking window changes. Can you give more detail as to why this confusion exists, and I'll make suggestions if I can. Cheers, --- James "Wez" Weatherall "The path to enlightenment is /usr/bin/enlightenment" Laboratory for Communications Engineering, Cambridge - Tel : 766513 AT&T Labs Cambridge, UK - Tel : 343000 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jnw22@cam.ac.uk Wed Sep 5 12:25:49 2001 From: jnw22@cam.ac.uk (James ''Wez'' Weatherall) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 11:25:49 +0000 Subject: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit Message-ID: <005001c135f4$c6653b60$1062a981@eng.cam.ac.uk> Jeff, Have you tried running WinVNC as any other user (especially non-administrative ones) and doing the same thing? It sounds as though your machine may have a virus or hardware problem. No application should be able to cause an instant reset of an NT/2K box unless NT/2K has a bug that allows it, or the installation is in some way broken. Cheers, --- James "Wez" Weatherall "The path to enlightenment is /usr/bin/enlightenment" Laboratory for Communications Engineering, Cambridge - Tel : 766513 AT&T Labs Cambridge, UK - Tel : 343000 --- Hi there, Running a 700 Mhz Athlon with a 3dfx Voodoo 3 display adapter. Lots of disk space. 128MB memory. Win2k Pro, service pack 2. No known issues with the hardware configuration. If I start my machine, start VNC in app mode, wait till the icon appears on my task bar, and then right mouse click on the icon, and Exit, about 2 out of 3 times I get an immediate reboot of my machine. No shutdown - it's as if I pressed the reset key. I had thought it was limited to this circumstance, but I just managed to whack out my machine after some hours of running when I tried to Exit VNC. No mention of this in the mailing list that I can find so I thought I'd log it. Regards, Jeff Veit http://www.tanasity.com/ - Tanasity develops software and net applications http://www.tangledtime.com/ - Discussion about the net, software and business - - come and contribute. Technophiles, it's PHP. Feel free to discuss the merits of server side development languages and environments. Tanasity Tel: +44 (0)1223 721513 Email: jeff.veit@tanasity.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From kizetoni@hotmail.com Wed Sep 5 13:05:17 2001 From: kizetoni@hotmail.com (Zoran Pantic) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 12:05:17 +0000 Subject: "reboot on": Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit References: <004d01c1359b$fe2b7b30$d190fd3e@bigboy2kpro> <003001c135e9$8734a170$0401a8c0@beasley.bpa.nu> <008b01c135f0$130fa4a0$d190fd3e@bigboy2kpro> Message-ID: Hi Jeff, what do you mean having "reboot on", and having a small memory dump? I aks because my machine is also bubbling about "saving memory dump" whilst those sudden restarts... Where do I find this "auto reboot" settings, and how do I switch it off? Thanx in advance, Zoran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Veit" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 11:49 AM Subject: Re: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit > Thanks, > > Yeah I do auto reboot on. It's quite possible that's what's happening - I've > got it set to only write a small memory dump. I'll switch auto reboot off > and see what happens. Thanks again. > > Jeff > > http://www.tanasity.com/ - Tanasity develops software and net applications > http://www.tangledtime.com/ - Discussion about the net, software and > business - come and contribute. Technophiles, it's PHP. Feel free to discuss > the merits of server side development languages and environments. > > Tanasity > Tel: +44 (0)1223 721513 > Email: jeff.veit@tanasity.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin-John Beasley" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:02 AM > Subject: Re: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit > > > > Check your system settings and cmake sure that the machine does not > > auto-reboot after a blue screen of death. I had a server doing something > > like this when loading a specific program and what I found was that the > > memory dump was so quick I never saw the blue screen. If that's not the > > problem I guess someone who knows more about the VNC coding will need to > > look at this as I have no idea. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jeff Veit" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:46 AM > > Subject: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit > > > > > > > Hi there, > > > > > > Running a 700 Mhz Athlon with a 3dfx Voodoo 3 display adapter. Lots of > > disk > > > space. 128MB memory. Win2k Pro, service pack 2. No known issues with the > > > hardware configuration. > > > > > > If I start my machine, start VNC in app mode, wait till the icon appears > > on my > > > task bar, and then right mouse click on the icon, and Exit, about 2 out > of > > 3 > > > times I get an immediate reboot of my machine. No shutdown - it's as if > I > > > pressed the reset key. > > > > > > I had thought it was limited to this circumstance, but I just managed to > > whack > > > out my machine after some hours of running when I tried to Exit VNC. > > > > > > No mention of this in the mailing list that I can find so I thought I'd > > log > > > it. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Jeff Veit > > > > > > http://www.tanasity.com/ - Tanasity develops software and net > applications > > > http://www.tangledtime.com/ - Discussion about the net, software and > > business > > > - come and contribute. Technophiles, it's PHP. Feel free to discuss the > > merits > > > of server side development languages and environments. > > > > > > Tanasity > > > Tel: +44 (0)1223 721513 > > > Email: jeff.veit@tanasity.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From kizetoni@hotmail.com Wed Sep 5 13:05:25 2001 From: kizetoni@hotmail.com (Zoran Pantic) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 12:05:25 +0000 Subject: Bug report - Win2k machine reboots References: <004d01c1359b$fe2b7b30$d190fd3e@bigboy2kpro> <003001c135e9$8734a170$0401a8c0@beasley.bpa.nu> <3B95FBC7.D7A1BA40@cardinalengineering.com> Message-ID: Hello Yan! I seem to have the similar problem, and I also turned power savings off. No help. But now when you mentioned those multimedia and sound stuff, I can remember that once I got a blue screen complaining about some sound driver (which is btw properly installed and is newest version). What do you mean by turning multimedia and soun off? You mean leaving the machine totally without sound, uninstalling something, or what? Thanx in advance, Zoran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yan Seiner" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 12:17 PM Subject: Re: Bug report - Win2k machine reboots > I fought a similar problem on a linux-based toshiba laptop. I finally > solved the problem by turning off as much of the power saving stuff as > possible. I would disable all power management, sound, multimedia, > etc. and see if the problem persists. Then enable one at a time. > > I've found apm to be the source of more evil reboots and freezes than > almost anything else. > > --Yan > > Zoran Pantic wrote: > > > > I have the same problem with my win2000pro sp2 machine, and that problem was > > there before I had sp2, and even before I had VNC. On our little LAN there are > > other computers who have VNC running the whole time and no problems, ever! > > > > I can see in a event viewer that "machine was restarted after a bugcheck", but > > to me it looks exactly like I pressed hardware reset key. > > > > I have fought against this problem (that occurs occasionaly - 2 or 3 times in > > one day, and then a pause for 10 days or even a month) for so many months now, > > that I learned to live with this problem (and developed almost unconcous > > reaction on my left hand, called "CTRL + S sequence" :o) > > > > If anyone ever comes to solve this problem, please post it somewhere. Now I > > even started to think about possible relation between computers hardware and > > some program(s) (I have IBM ThinkPad 600X laptop) - that's how desperate one > > can get not being able to solve a problem that occurs occasionally, not > > obviously related to a visible cause. :o) > > > > Regards, > > > > Zoran > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From kizetoni@hotmail.com Wed Sep 5 13:09:11 2001 From: kizetoni@hotmail.com (Zoran Pantic) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 12:09:11 +0000 Subject: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit References: <005001c135f4$c6653b60$1062a981@eng.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hello James, what do you mean by "bug" - maybe a damaged win nt/2k that should be installed from the scratch? I have a machine that is making those sudden resets, but still I am in doubt are they caused by hw error, or win error. Windows reports an error in event viewer after those restars, but in general my win2000 is working pretty well and besides that there are no problems. It could be a sw error (since it's recorded in event viewer) but it could also be a hw error (since after that sudden restart machine shows a black screen with a blinking cursor, just like it is in DOS, but without a prompt c:\). How do you mean "broken installation" - that refers to win2k or vnc? Thanx in advance, Zoran ----- Original Message ----- From: "James ''Wez'' Weatherall" To: Cc: "VNC-LIST" Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 12:23 PM Subject: Re: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit > Jeff, > > Have you tried running WinVNC as any other user (especially > non-administrative ones) and doing the same thing? > It sounds as though your machine may have a virus or hardware problem. > No application should be able to cause an instant reset of an NT/2K box > unless NT/2K has a bug that allows it, or the installation is in some way > broken. > > Cheers, > > --- > James "Wez" Weatherall > "The path to enlightenment is /usr/bin/enlightenment" > Laboratory for Communications Engineering, Cambridge - Tel : 766513 > AT&T Labs Cambridge, UK - Tel : 343000 > > > > --- > Hi there, > > Running a 700 Mhz Athlon with a 3dfx Voodoo 3 display adapter. Lots of disk > space. 128MB memory. Win2k Pro, service pack 2. No known issues with the > hardware configuration. > > If I start my machine, start VNC in app mode, wait till the icon appears on > my > task bar, and then right mouse click on the icon, and Exit, about 2 out of 3 > times I get an immediate reboot of my machine. No shutdown - it's as if I > pressed the reset key. > > I had thought it was limited to this circumstance, but I just managed to > whack > out my machine after some hours of running when I tried to Exit VNC. > > No mention of this in the mailing list that I can find so I thought I'd log > it. > > Regards, > > Jeff Veit > > http://www.tanasity.com/ - Tanasity develops software and net applications > http://www.tangledtime.com/ - Discussion about the net, software and > business > - - come and contribute. Technophiles, it's PHP. Feel free to discuss the > merits > of server side development languages and environments. > > Tanasity > Tel: +44 (0)1223 721513 > Email: jeff.veit@tanasity.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From yan@cardinalengineering.com Wed Sep 5 13:25:25 2001 From: yan@cardinalengineering.com (Yan Seiner) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 12:25:25 +0000 Subject: Bug report - Win2k machine reboots References: <004d01c1359b$fe2b7b30$d190fd3e@bigboy2kpro> <003001c135e9$8734a170$0401a8c0@beasley.bpa.nu> <3B95FBC7.D7A1BA40@cardinalengineering.com> Message-ID: <3B960AF5.409B3F29@cardinalengineering.com> OT and getting more so - Keep in mind that most of my experience is with linux, and none with W2K. In linux, I can simply unload those portions of the OS I don't want to use (like sound, dvd, etc.). In windows, I would assume you need to uninstall drivers and disable the automatic driver installation on boot - a more involved and much more permanent process. Also, in windows, apps muck about with replacing DLLs which can introduce instabilities. (Not trying to start a holy war; linux is fast heading down that route as well....) So check to see if the problems started after a botched install of an app. --Yan Zoran Pantic wrote: > > Hello Yan! > > I seem to have the similar problem, and I also turned power savings off. No > help. But now when you mentioned those multimedia and sound stuff, I can > remember that once I got a blue screen complaining about some sound driver > (which is btw properly installed and is newest version). What do you mean by > turning multimedia and soun off? You mean leaving the machine totally without > sound, uninstalling something, or what? > > Thanx in advance, > > Zoran --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From nickp@ericwright.co.uk Wed Sep 5 13:41:14 2001 From: nickp@ericwright.co.uk (Nick Palmer) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 12:41:14 +0000 Subject: Bug report - Win2k machine reboots Message-ID: You could always use device manager to disable the devices that you don't want - they're still there, but the drivers don't get loaded. Nick Palmer IT Manager > -----Original Message----- > From: Yan Seiner [mailto:yan@cardinalengineering.com] > Sent: 05 September 2001 12:22 > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: Bug report - Win2k machine reboots > > > OT and getting more so - > > Keep in mind that most of my experience is with linux, and none with > W2K. > > In linux, I can simply unload those portions of the OS I don't want to > use (like sound, dvd, etc.). In windows, I would assume you need to > uninstall drivers and disable the automatic driver > installation on boot > - a more involved and much more permanent process. > > Also, in windows, apps muck about with replacing DLLs which can > introduce instabilities. (Not trying to start a holy war; > linux is fast > heading down that route as well....) So check to see if the problems > started after a botched install of an app. > > --Yan > > Zoran Pantic wrote: > > > > Hello Yan! > > > > I seem to have the similar problem, and I also turned power > savings off. No > > help. But now when you mentioned those multimedia and sound > stuff, I can > > remember that once I got a blue screen complaining about > some sound driver > > (which is btw properly installed and is newest version). > What do you mean by > > turning multimedia and soun off? You mean leaving the > machine totally without > > sound, uninstalling something, or what? > > > > Thanx in advance, > > > > Zoran > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the individual to whom it is addressed. It may contain privileged and confidential information. If you have received this message in error or there are any problems, please notify the sender immediately and delete the message from your computer. The unauthorised use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is forbidden. The Eric Wright Group will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damage as a result of any malicious program being passed on, or arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From rudi.de.vos@simac.be Wed Sep 5 13:48:58 2001 From: rudi.de.vos@simac.be (Rudi De Vos) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 12:48:58 +0000 Subject: hook video driver Message-ID: The hook driver capture the rectangles and points passed to the driver drvbitblt and drvcopybits functions. The destination rectangles are screen coordinates, source rectangles are window coordinates. Vnc needs only to know the place that changed (for bitblt is this ok) But when you want to use "copyrect" you also need the source info, you have to know the source rectangle before you can copy him to the destination. I'm still try to find a way to translate the window coordinates to screen coordinates. The hook driver pass a RECT for bitblt and a RECT and POINT for copybits. But the POINT is the place on the window that moves. ex: notepad size 100x100 place: left = 150 right =250 top = 300 bottom =400 The driver pass me something like 160,240,310,380 point 0,10 rectangle moved to 160,240,310,380 from 150,310 But the driver don't tell me that the app is notepad and so I don't know the starting place (150=0,300=10) ----------------------------------------- There exist a document from microsoft "Tracking window changes" but this document is not clear for me. http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/graphics/dpyddi_4zon.asp Rudi -----Original Message----- From: James ''Wez'' Weatherall [mailto:jnw22@cam.ac.uk] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 12:17 PM To: Rudi De Vos Cc: VNC-LIST Subject: Re: hook video driver Rudi, I noticed your mail to the VNC list regarding a hooking video driver. >From your mail, it sounds as though you have this on Windows 2000/NT. Is that correct? You mentioned some confusion in tracking window changes. Can you give more detail as to why this confusion exists, and I'll make suggestions if I can. Cheers, --- James "Wez" Weatherall "The path to enlightenment is /usr/bin/enlightenment" Laboratory for Communications Engineering, Cambridge - Tel : 766513 AT&T Labs Cambridge, UK - Tel : 343000 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From adyas@twowaytv.com Wed Sep 5 14:04:20 2001 From: adyas@twowaytv.com (Alex Dyas) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 13:04:20 +0000 Subject: Xvnc view only Message-ID: <20010905125335.O77653-100000@r2d2.twowaytv.co.uk> hi, I've looked in the docs, and the mailing list archive, and I'm beginning to suspect that this is not possible, but I'd like someone to confirm it. I would like to run Xvnc as read-only, ie allow people to connect but not to be able to alter anything. I know the client can be run in read-only mode, but I can't rely on the users to do this. Thanks, Alex.. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ehud@unix.simonwiesel.co.il Wed Sep 5 14:36:36 2001 From: ehud@unix.simonwiesel.co.il (Ehud Karni) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 13:36:36 +0000 Subject: Xvnc view only In-Reply-To: <20010905125335.O77653-100000@r2d2.twowaytv.co.uk> (message from Alex Dyas on Wed, 5 Sep 2001 12:58:01 +0100 (BST)) References: <20010905125335.O77653-100000@r2d2.twowaytv.co.uk> Message-ID: <200109051231.PAA14837@linux.> On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 12:58:01 +0100 (BST), Alex Dyas wrote: > > I've looked in the docs, and the mailing list archive, and I'm beginning to > suspect that this is not possible, but I'd like someone to confirm it. I would > like to run Xvnc as read-only, ie allow people to connect but not to be able to > alter anything. I know the client can be run in read-only mode, but I can't > rely on the users to do this. > You did not look hard enough. I made just the change you're asking for. I added -viewonly switch to Xvnc (tested on Linux). You can find my original e-mail at: http://www.tridiavnc.com/list-mailist/2000-07/0575.html If you have problems with it you can email me directly. Ehud. -- Ehud Karni Mivtach - Simon Insurance /"\ Tel: +972-3-7966-561 Fax: +972-3-7966-667 \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign (USA) Fax and voice mail: 1-815-5509341 X Against HTML Mail Better Safe Than Sorry / \ mailto:ehud@unix.simonwiesel.co.il http://www.simonwiesel.co.il --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From David.Edward.Shapiro@btitele.com Wed Sep 5 15:04:24 2001 From: David.Edward.Shapiro@btitele.com (David Edward Shapiro) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 14:04:24 +0000 Subject: grey screen with cursor only on solaris/sparc Message-ID: <549AB966B45DD311A58A0000E86CEA8D0CAED717@postoffice.btitele .com> Hello, I saw a thing in the faq that said something about the xstartup program and needing maybe to use some other thing other than twm. If I run something like reflections at my workstatoin and run the xstartup, howerver, I do get a unix command prompt fine, so it is not the xstartup script. I changed the xstartup script so that it just had xclock in it, but I still got the same grey screen/cursor. It is as if it is not running the xstartup script I think. I started the server with vncserver command and I am using the latest vnc to date. The operating system is solaris 2.8 on a sparc platform. What can I change to get this working? David --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Eric@InvisibleRobot.com Wed Sep 5 15:04:26 2001 From: Eric@InvisibleRobot.com (Eric Carlson) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 14:04:26 +0000 Subject: TightVNC crash on 6 of 16 NT servers References: Message-ID: <3B96182F.29CD323C@InvisibleRobot.com> The 5 servers with the most TightVNC crashes are running ATI Video cards, but with different drivers. I also checked 4 that are working okay, and 2 are running ATI, but at only 256 colors, and 2 are not running ATI. Here are the details: - #1 - 800x600x16-bit, 75.hz - Chip: "ATI 3D Rage IIC PCI (A21)" - Driver: 4.00.1381.3254, 4.0.0 - Dual P-III/550.Mhz CPUs, 1.Gig RAM - Dr.Watson: c0000005 (access violation) - #2 - 800x600x16-bit, 72.hz - Chip: "ATI Rage128 VR (AGP)" - Driver: 4.3.68, 4.0.0 - Dual P-III/600.Mhz CPUs, 512.Meg RAM - Dr.Watson: c0000005 (access violation) - #3 - 800x600x16-bit, 72.hz - Chip: "ATI Rage128 VR (AGP)" - Driver: 4.3.68, 4.0.0 - Dual P-III/600.Mhz CPUs, 512.Meg RAM - Dr.Watson: c0000005 (access violation)/DeviceIoControl(77f02b7e) - #4 - 800x600, was high-color, now 16-bit, 72.hz - Chip: "ATI 3D Rage IIC PCI (GT-B3U2)" - Driver: 5.2.040, 4.0.0 - Dual P-III/500.Mhz CPUs, 512.Meg RAM - Dr.Watson: c0000005 (access violation)/(0042a843) - #5 - 800x600, was high-color, now 16-bit, 72.hz - Chip: "ATI 3D Rage IIC PCI (GT-B3U2)" - Driver: 5.2.040, 4.0.0 - Dual P-III/500.Mhz CPUs, 512.Meg RAM - #6, working with TightVNC, ATI at 800x600x256/60.hz - #7, working with TightVNC, S3 at 800x800x16-bit/72.hz - #8, working with TightVNC, ATI at 800x600x256/60.hz - #9, working with TightVNC, Matrox at 800x800x16-bit/75.hz - Eric, http://www.InvisibleRobot.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From beasley@bigpond.net.au Wed Sep 5 15:05:39 2001 From: beasley@bigpond.net.au (Kevin-John Beasley) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 14:05:39 +0000 Subject: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit References: <005001c135f4$c6653b60$1062a981@eng.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000c01c1360a$a81beda0$0401a8c0@beasley.bpa.nu> James you only need look at Microsoft's APM code for about 12 seconds to understand how many problems it causes. And that is just the start. If you run a nice clean server with only Microsoft Server Apps on it it "should" work fine. Considering I can rewrite the entire memory contents of Win 2K from a C program it is hardly surprising that 2K or NT crashes when any non-microsoft guru get's his hands onto it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James ''Wez'' Weatherall" To: Cc: "VNC-LIST" Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 8:23 PM Subject: Re: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit > Jeff, > > Have you tried running WinVNC as any other user (especially > non-administrative ones) and doing the same thing? > It sounds as though your machine may have a virus or hardware problem. > No application should be able to cause an instant reset of an NT/2K box > unless NT/2K has a bug that allows it, or the installation is in some way > broken. > > Cheers, > > --- > James "Wez" Weatherall > "The path to enlightenment is /usr/bin/enlightenment" > Laboratory for Communications Engineering, Cambridge - Tel : 766513 > AT&T Labs Cambridge, UK - Tel : 343000 > > > > --- > Hi there, > > Running a 700 Mhz Athlon with a 3dfx Voodoo 3 display adapter. Lots of disk > space. 128MB memory. Win2k Pro, service pack 2. No known issues with the > hardware configuration. > > If I start my machine, start VNC in app mode, wait till the icon appears on > my > task bar, and then right mouse click on the icon, and Exit, about 2 out of 3 > times I get an immediate reboot of my machine. No shutdown - it's as if I > pressed the reset key. > > I had thought it was limited to this circumstance, but I just managed to > whack > out my machine after some hours of running when I tried to Exit VNC. > > No mention of this in the mailing list that I can find so I thought I'd log > it. > > Regards, > > Jeff Veit > > http://www.tanasity.com/ - Tanasity develops software and net applications > http://www.tangledtime.com/ - Discussion about the net, software and > business > - - come and contribute. Technophiles, it's PHP. Feel free to discuss the > merits > of server side development languages and environments. > > Tanasity > Tel: +44 (0)1223 721513 > Email: jeff.veit@tanasity.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From beasley@bigpond.net.au Wed Sep 5 15:12:26 2001 From: beasley@bigpond.net.au (Kevin-John Beasley) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 14:12:26 +0000 Subject: Bug report - Win2k machine reboots References: <004d01c1359b$fe2b7b30$d190fd3e@bigboy2kpro> <003001c135e9$8734a170$0401a8c0@beasley.bpa.nu> <3B95FBC7.D7A1BA40@cardinalengineering.com> <3B960AF5.409B3F29@cardinalengineering.com> Message-ID: <001c01c1360b$984678e0$0401a8c0@beasley.bpa.nu> At least in linux I get a error when I try to rewrite the entire contents of memory insted of this stupid windows idea of "it's ok, it's a nice program taking control of some stuff, Ok it's done now, What the??? NOOOOOOO!!!!! Crash Bang Boom" idea. Maybe microsoft should work on different colours for it's Blue Screens of Death. They don't seam to be fixing them ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yan Seiner" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:22 PM Subject: Re: Bug report - Win2k machine reboots > OT and getting more so - > > Keep in mind that most of my experience is with linux, and none with > W2K. > > In linux, I can simply unload those portions of the OS I don't want to > use (like sound, dvd, etc.). In windows, I would assume you need to > uninstall drivers and disable the automatic driver installation on boot > - a more involved and much more permanent process. > > Also, in windows, apps muck about with replacing DLLs which can > introduce instabilities. (Not trying to start a holy war; linux is fast > heading down that route as well....) So check to see if the problems > started after a botched install of an app. > > --Yan > > Zoran Pantic wrote: > > > > Hello Yan! > > > > I seem to have the similar problem, and I also turned power savings off. No > > help. But now when you mentioned those multimedia and sound stuff, I can > > remember that once I got a blue screen complaining about some sound driver > > (which is btw properly installed and is newest version). What do you mean by > > turning multimedia and soun off? You mean leaving the machine totally without > > sound, uninstalling something, or what? > > > > Thanx in advance, > > > > Zoran > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jnw22@cam.ac.uk Wed Sep 5 16:28:35 2001 From: jnw22@cam.ac.uk (James ''Wez'' Weatherall) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 15:28:35 +0000 Subject: hook video driver References: Message-ID: <001101c13616$48cdecc0$1062a981@eng.cam.ac.uk> --- But when you want to use "copyrect" you also need the source info, you have to know the source rectangle before you can copy him to the destination. I'm still try to find a way to translate the window coordinates to screen coordinates. The hook driver pass a RECT for bitblt and a RECT and POINT for copybits. But the POINT is the place on the window that moves. ex: notepad size 100x100 place: left = 150 right =250 top = 300 bottom =400 The driver pass me something like 160,240,310,380 point 0,10 rectangle moved to 160,240,310,380 from 150,310 But the driver don't tell me that the app is notepad and so I don't know the starting place (150=0,300=10) --- When you say "the driver", do you mean a driver you have written, or someone else's driver? I'm surprised that the driver returns window coordinates - I thought that graphics drivers received cordinates relative to display buffers. Bear in mind that GDI will access bitmaps in the graphics card other than just the display bitmap, so the hook driver probably needs to check which bitmap updates are coming from and only use copyrect when the source is the display bitmap. Cheers, --- James "Wez" Weatherall "The path to enlightenment is /usr/bin/enlightenment" Laboratory for Communications Engineering, Cambridge - Tel : 766513 AT&T Labs Cambridge, UK - Tel : 343000 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From joemacmail@yahoo.com Wed Sep 5 16:40:29 2001 From: joemacmail@yahoo.com (Joe Mac) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 15:40:29 +0000 Subject: Using VNC For Two Systems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010905143454.79037.qmail@web9606.mail.yahoo.com> Well, looking around, I found x2vnc: http://www.hubbe.net/~hubbe/x2vnc.html which does exactly what I want, but doesn't run on Win2k (it's X-Windows based). Anything like this for Windows? --- Peter Krala wrote: > If I understand what you are trying to do correctly, > probably the > easiest way to do this would be take advantage of > Win2K support for > multiple monitors: > [clip] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joe Mac > Date: Tuesday, September 4, 2001 10:55 am > Subject: Using VNC For Two Systems > > > I'd like to use VNC for two computers (Win2k) > sitting > > side-by-side. I don't want to see the screen of > the > > second computer on the first, I just want the > mouse > > and keyboard to go to the second computer when I > move > > the pointer off the right hand side of the first > > machine. Then when I move it off the left side of > the > > second machine, control goes back to the first. > > > > Is there a way to do this? > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > messaging with Yahoo! > > Messengerhttp://im.yahoo.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From DavidB@mail.interclean.com Wed Sep 5 16:40:37 2001 From: DavidB@mail.interclean.com (David Brodbeck) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 15:40:37 +0000 Subject: Ctrl Alt Del Message-ID: This is a frequently asked question. Yes, all the viewer programs allow you to send a Ctrl-Alt-Del to the remote machine. How you do it depends on the platform the viewer is running on. Under Linux, you can just press Ctrl-Alt-Del, but you may have to configure your local window manager to ignore that key combination. Under all Windows versions, you can select 'Send Ctrl-Alt-Del' from the window icon. Under Windows NT, Shift-Ctrl-Alt-Del also works. Hope this helps. -----Original Message----- From: Linda Worthington [mailto:lindac65@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 5:16 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Ctrl Alt Del I am running a W2K server with VNC 3.3.3. Is there any way that a system can be accessed with VNC as a service, running but the system is locked or has been rebooted? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From DavidB@mail.interclean.com Wed Sep 5 16:41:05 2001 From: DavidB@mail.interclean.com (David Brodbeck) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 15:41:05 +0000 Subject: Interactively Disable Local Keyboard and Mouse Message-ID: Did you read his post? He noted, paranthetically, that you can set it up so that if no one answers, it times out after a set number of seconds and lets you in. -----Original Message----- From: Fisher, Dave [mailto:david.m.fisher@eds.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 4:41 PM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: Interactively Disable Local Keyboard and Mouse The registry settings you talk about will not work since the query option will only give me access to the PC if someone is at the PC and using it. I do not want to access it then, I want to access it if no one is there. If no one is there, then no one can accept my request and I will not be able to access the PC. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Palocz [mailto:spalocz@tgtsolutions.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 12:21 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Interactively Disable Local Keyboard and Mouse Since the makers of VNC thought of this, There is an option you can set in the registry for a message to be displayed stating something about someone is taking control of this system do you want to let them... (what is even better is you can set it to disconnect or accept if it times out (no one is there)). --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From vnc@mitchb.org Wed Sep 5 16:43:18 2001 From: vnc@mitchb.org (Mitch) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 15:43:18 +0000 Subject: Explanation of terms please. Message-ID: <3b963667.231592@mid.mitchb.org> Hi all All of the nodes on my home LAN run under Win98SE. I have WinNVC running on my server node and can successfully log into it from the other nodes with vncviewer. However ... ... could somebody please explain to me the significance/purpose of 'add client' and 'running the viewer in listen mode'? I'm fast coming to the conclusion that those terms are only relevant to systems running WinNT. Thanks -- Mitch --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From LeeDouglas@pellis.com Wed Sep 5 17:07:18 2001 From: LeeDouglas@pellis.com (Lee Douglas) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 16:07:18 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available In-Reply-To: <000b01c1357b$c5b49400$0201a8c0@athlon1000> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010905110313.03ffd950@mail.pellis.com> Tony, It just keep getting better! Thanks! Lee At 02:57 PM 9/4/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Hi All, >A new version of VNC Commander is available for download. >I have incorporated some of your ideas into this release, such as: >Improved details view, now has sort arrows on the column headers, and it >remembers where you left it last. >Display name does not change when editing the server address. >One connection can be set to autoconnect when the program is started. >Large Icon view is now sorted. >And other little things. > >You can download it for free at: >http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com > > >Ciao, > >Tony Caduto >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list >to majordomo@uk.research.att.com >See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html >--------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tertling@web.de Wed Sep 5 17:07:52 2001 From: tertling@web.de (Andre Tertling) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 16:07:52 +0000 Subject: Bug report - Win2k machine reboots References: <004d01c1359b$fe2b7b30$d190fd3e@bigboy2kpro> <003001c135e9$8734a170$0401a8c0@beasley.bpa.nu> <3B95FBC7.D7A1BA40@cardinalengineering.com> <3B960AF5.409B3F29@cardinalengineering.com> <001c01c1360b$984678e0$0401a8c0@beasley.bpa.nu> Message-ID: <3B963DA5.66FDAA4A@web.de> Kevin-John Beasley wrote: > > Maybe microsoft should work on different colours for it's Blue Screens of > Death. They don't seam to be fixing them There is already a tool to configure the colors for your bluescreens :D Sorry, couldn't resist :D -- Regards, Andre Tertling (tertling@web.de) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From zmargareten@CJH.org Wed Sep 5 17:15:41 2001 From: zmargareten@CJH.org (Zalman Margareten) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 16:15:41 +0000 Subject: Undocumented port in use by VNCviewer in Listen Mode? Message-ID: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E5112695@CFJH> Very clearly explained, John. I would suggest running a "network monitor" through an entire VNC session and watching when/if it communicates with port 5400. Such a monitor was mentioned in this VNC-list sometime last week and I posted a message inquiring what monitor was used. I so far haven't received an answer. You mentioned different experiments. Did you try disabling port 5400 coming in to the viewer? Good Luck -Original Message----- From: John Roland Elliott [mailto:John_Roland_Elliott@Hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 6:14 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Undocumented port in use by VNCviewer in Listen Mode? Roy, Pete, Zoran, Zalman, and all --- Thanks for considering my poorly posed question and thanks for your theories. Let me try my question again, a little more precisely and completely stated this time. The FAQ (http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/faq.html#q52) states, and I have observed, that the VNC server listens on port 5900+n (where n is the "display number") and that when the VNC viewer initiates a session with the server, it does so through that port. The FAQ (http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/faq.html#q52) states, and I have observed, that the VNC server listens on port 5800+n (where n is the "display number") and, on that port, answers as a minimalist web server which delivers the java implementation of the VNC viewer. Once the (java) VNC viewer is delivered to the machine that is to act as viewer, the java VNC viewer communicates with the VNC server through port 5900+n, just like the non-java VNC viewer. Ports 5900+n and 5800+n are open on machines running a VNC server (WinVNC, e.g.) and the (java or non-java) VNC viewer connects only to 5900+n. 5800+n is used only to fetch the java viewer (vncviewer.class in vncviewer.jar) from the machine running the VNC server. It is my understanding that the viewer, once it is loaded, regardless of how it is loaded, communicates with the server through the server's port 5900+n. I don't think that 5800+n is used as a control channel, or anything other than fetching the java client. I conclude this by configuring a firewall that defends the machine running the VNC server. When I configure it to drop inbound traffic on port 5800 I can successfully establish a VNC session from the other side of the firewall using the non-java VNC viewer. Further, I conducted the following experiment: 1) on the firewall between my viewer and server, I enabled 5800 (for loading the java VNC viewer) and disabled 5900 going from viewer to server 2) from my favorite java-capable web browser, I went to http://myVNCserver:5800 and got the VNC authentication page asking for a VNC password 3) at that point, I reconfigured my firewall to disable 5800 (the viewer is already loaded in the virtual machine of the machine that is to be viewer) and enable 5900 (so that the viewer could do something constructive) going from viewer to server 4) back at my web browser, which was still displaying the VNC authentication page, I entered the VNC password and established a session (without access to 5800 on the server but with 5900 on the server accessible) This experiment convinced me that a) 5800 is necessary and sufficient to load the java VNC viewer (i.e., 5900 is not needed for *loading* and *starting* the java VNC viewer) and b) 5900 is necessary and sufficient for the (java) VNC viewer (i.e., 5800 is not needed for *running* the VNC viewer, even the java one). I stress that 5800+n and 5900+n are VNC server ports. Those ports are not open on the VNC viewer machine (unless it is also running VNC server.) The FAQ (http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/faq.html#q52) states, and I have observed, that the VNC viewer (not server) listens on port 5500. When, from a VNC server, you "Add New Client", the server initiates a session with the viewer through the viewer's port 5500. In this mode of operation, the viewer does not use the server's 5900+n, which would have been used if the viewer had initiated the connection; I suspect, but I haven't confirmed, that the server continues to talk to the viewer's port 5500 and the viewer talks to the port that the server opened in order to call the viewer. So, I think I understand 5500, 5800+n, and 5900+n, but I'm still mystified by 5400. What I know is: 1) it is created on the viewer machine when I "Run VNCviewer (Listen Mode)" 2) it is destroyed on the viewer machine when I "Close listening daemon" 3) it is unused (or at least not required) during the conventional operation (viewer initiates the connection) 4) it is unused (or at least not required) by the java VNC viewer What I would like to know is does it serve any function whatsoever. In exchange for this knowledge I am prepared to offer my eternal gratitude and undying devotion. I really don't want to have to try to read the source (what is it? ... Object Oriented COBOL? ... "ADD-1-TO-COBOL-GIVING-COBOL"?) Regards, JRE P.S. One last clue: If, on the machine that has "Run VNCviewer (Listen Mode)", I go to http://localhost:5400, briefly, in maybe 36-point text, I see "plication/vnd.ms-excel, applica" at the top of the screen. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zalman Margareten" To: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 12:39 PM Subject: RE: Undocumented port in use by VNCviewer in Listen Mode? > Are u trying to imply that it will establish the connection with port 5400 > and then hand it over to 5500? I can understand this with the "regular" > connection that is initiated from the viewer where it will send a sync to > 5800 and then establish a connection with 5900. But how do u explain it with > the "listener" method where it starts with 5500 according to my ( netstat -n > readings )? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roy Long [mailto:roy@ncitech.com] > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 9:46 AM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: Undocumented port in use by VNCviewer in Listen Mode? > > > >The documentation indicates that VNCviewer in Listen Mode uses port 5500. > It > >appears that when I start VNCviewer in Listen Mode, my machine also listens > >on port 5400, at least my Windows 2000 machine does. After stopping Listen > >Mode, both 5500 and 5400 are closed. I have set my firewall to block 5400 > >and allow 5500 and it seems to continue to work. > > > >As port 5400 is associated with the Blade Runner Trojan, I was a little > >alarmed to discover it open on one of my machines. > > > >Can anyone provide any illumination on the subject of VNC's use of port > >5400? > > I believe 5400 is the java web browser port for the viewer, just like > 5800 works for the java web browser port on the "normal" VNC server. > -- > Roy Long - KB3CZD > Computer Technician > NCI Technologies > 126 N. 2nd Street > Philipsburg PA 16866 > > roy@ncitech.com > > > > > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > Version: 3.12 > GO@ d-@ s: a- C++ C--- U+++ P+ L++>$ E--- W+ N+ w > M++$ PS PE+ PGP+ t+ 5 X R- tv b+ DI++ D G h--- r+++ y--(+++) > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From mlafleur@ux.cegep-heritage.qc.ca Wed Sep 5 17:15:49 2001 From: mlafleur@ux.cegep-heritage.qc.ca (Maurice Lafleur) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 16:15:49 +0000 Subject: Log file size Message-ID: <3B9637FB.D492501B@ux.cegep-heritage.qc.ca> Hello everyone, I posted this yesterday, but I don't think it turned up to the list (I didn't receive it for majordomo..). So here goes: ---> I am new to this list but not to Vnc. We have been using this marvellous piece of software for the past 2.5 years here at the college and are really happy with it. Only one thing causes us headaches: the size of the log file that the Linux implementation creates. We limit our students to 20 Megs of home drive space and recently after a program went astray, a student had her entire 20M used up by the VNC session log file she was running, preventing her from saving any new work. After that event, I checked other students log files to find that they were in some cases pretty big. So here are the questions: 1- Can the size of the log file be limited somehow? 2- What happens if a log file is removed from the .vnc directory while a session is running? Thanks, -- MGL -- Maurice G. Lafleur +------------------------------------------------+ Teacher + Voice: +1(819).778.2270 X1412 + Heritage College + Fax: +1(819).776.7364 + 325 Cite des Jeunes + mailto: mlafleur@ux.cegep-heritage.qc.ca + Hull. Qc. + Web: http://ux.cegep-heritage.qc.ca/~ommadawn + Canada +------------------------------------------------+ J8Y 6T3 /"\ \ / X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN / \ AGAINST HTML MAIL --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Seanster@Seanster.com Wed Sep 5 18:13:00 2001 From: Seanster@Seanster.com (Seanster) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 17:13:00 +0000 Subject: Undocumented port in use by VNCviewer in Listen Mode? References: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E5112695@CFJH> Message-ID: <3B964E25.B5F92545@Seanster.com> Ok lets wrap this up. Port 5400 is for the 'Flasher'. Here is what it says in the source code: // Flasher is used with the AT&T internal version of VNC, when the user may need to // choose which monitor in a room should be used to display his desktop. A server can // connect to a listening viewer and flash the boundary of the screen, typically displaying // the userid of the person doing the flashing at the same time. // Not used in the external version. To be more specific, they say 'not used' but it is available for use. Maybe they meant 'not used by the server'. Or maybe someone just forgot to stop it from running. Just telnet to your box on port 5400 and your screen will flash as indicated. I wish someone around here used it cuz it would be a wicked prank to hammer them with flashes. -Sean --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From boerio@ichips.intel.com Wed Sep 5 18:46:02 2001 From: boerio@ichips.intel.com (Jeff Boerio) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 17:46:02 +0000 Subject: Log file size In-Reply-To: <3B9637FB.D492501B@ux.cegep-heritage.qc.ca> from "Maurice Lafleur" at Sep 05, 2001 10:34:35 AM Message-ID: <200109051640.JAA13057@plxw0032.pdx.intel.com> As far as I know, nothing bad will happen. But it depends on how a connect Xvnc session behaves with its logfiles. That is, does it only open the file when it needs to append it? Or, does it keep the file open while the VNC session is connected. Certainly, "cat /dev/null > ~username/.vnc/hostname:display.log" should cause no harm, since the inode won't be changing. - Jeff > >Hello everyone, > >I posted this yesterday, but I don't think it turned up to the list (I >didn't receive it for majordomo..). So here goes: > >---> >I am new to this list but not to Vnc. We have been using this marvellous >piece of software for the past 2.5 years here at the college and are >really happy with it. Only one thing causes us headaches: the size of >the log file that the Linux implementation creates. We limit our >students to 20 Megs of home drive space and recently after a program >went astray, a student had her entire 20M used up by the VNC session >log file she was running, preventing her from saving any new work. >After that event, I checked other students log files to find that they >were in some cases pretty big. > >So here are the questions: > >1- Can the size of the log file be limited somehow? > >2- What happens if a log file is removed from the .vnc directory while a >session is running? > >Thanks, > > -- Jeff Boerio, DPG-OR Engineering Computing, boerio@ichips.intel.com Mgr, UNIX Software Applications & Support --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jowr@sdf.lonestar.org Wed Sep 5 19:26:12 2001 From: jowr@sdf.lonestar.org (Eric Gisse) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 18:26:12 +0000 Subject: hidden "Start" console - CTRL + ESC sequence In-Reply-To: References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010904171316.02309910@mail.freeshell.org> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010905091746.00ae8f28@mail.freeshell.org> yea. guess i was wrong....ive been told that adding shift to any sequence works, and ive only needed C/A/D so far :-P At 11:18 AM 9/5/2001 +0200, you wrote: >Eric, thanx for the help. > >But, I tried those things you suggested, and the only one that works is the >first one; both shift+alt+tab and shift+ctrl+escape are executing on my >win2000pro viewer machine, and not on the vnc server machine. It is strange >that the first one works, and two others don't....? > >Regards, > Zoran > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Eric Gisse" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 3:14 AM >Subject: Re: hidden "Start" console - CTRL + ESC sequence > > > > what you do is add shift to any key sequence that windows captures > > > > shift control alt del > > shift alt tab > > shift control escape > > > > control C/V/P doesnt need shift because windows doesnt capture it > > > > hope this helps >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list >to majordomo@uk.research.att.com >See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html >--------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tmiani@enterasys.com Wed Sep 5 19:42:09 2001 From: tmiani@enterasys.com (Miani, Thomas) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 18:42:09 +0000 Subject: Password Question Message-ID: Hello all : Our company is using VNC on an NT work station enabling our customers to control and view that station. Due to security reasons our customers want to change the password of the actual VNC connection, most times they are connected to the NT station through VNC. Here is what has happened : Preliminary testing : On actual NT Station changing the password using the Icon tool seems to work Changing the password when Vic's causes the password to go back to the default when the machine is rebooted. When I rebooted the new password was not maintained, nor was the previous one (changed on the actual NT Station) that I had used before. The default password was back in place. Please help : Is the password saved in the registry ? Does the user that is Vic's in have permissions to write to the new password to the registry on the server machine ? Would this cause the password to revert to the default ? TJ Miani Sr. Technical Account Manager Enterasys Networks (w) 978-684-1434 (c) 978-835-2842 Helpdesk - 800-872-8440 tmiani@enterasys.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From john.clegg@nailsea.net Wed Sep 5 20:15:46 2001 From: john.clegg@nailsea.net (John Clegg) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 19:15:46 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available Message-ID: <076E84E04C64D311B9F40080C8F3095920FD30@MAPLE> Excellent, thank you John > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Caduto [mailto:tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 8:57 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available > > > Hi All, > A new version of VNC Commander is available for download. > I have incorporated some of your ideas into this release, such as: > Improved details view, now has sort arrows on the column > headers, and it > remembers where you left it last. > Display name does not change when editing the server address. > One connection can be set to autoconnect when the program is started. > Large Icon view is now sorted. > And other little things. > > You can download it for free at: > http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com > > > Ciao, > > Tony Caduto > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > ********************************************** Any views expressed in this message are the sender's own, and do not represent the views of Nailsea Family Practice or Woodspring Healthcare Limited except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of one or both of those organisations. 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Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Peter.Wojtowicz@holy-cross.com Wed Sep 5 20:27:17 2001 From: Peter.Wojtowicz@holy-cross.com (Wojtowicz, Peter) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 19:27:17 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available Message-ID: Spectacular! I've already entered 15 of my servers into it. Two things I've noticed.. When viewing as "Details", the last column "Show connection Timer" should either be named "Hide connection Timer", or the value for each entry should be flipped from false to true.. It also doesn't seem to have support for my favoirite switch, "/viewonly". Still, an excellent utility. Thank you! I wish I'd heard of it sooner! -pete > Hi All, > A new version of VNC Commander is available for download. > I have incorporated some of your ideas into this release, > such as: > Improved details view, now has sort arrows on the column > headers, and it > remembers where you left it last. > Display name does not change when editing the server address. > One connection can be set to autoconnect when the program > is started. > Large Icon view is now sorted. > And other little things. > > You can download it for free at: > http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jsarinana@ksninc.com Wed Sep 5 21:05:57 2001 From: jsarinana@ksninc.com (Joe Sarinana) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 20:05:57 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c1363c$b3a5cdd0$82ed5e3f@ksn1> Assume ! I'm about 2 hours new to this VNC s.w. and I'm already starting to feel warm and fuzzy inside. ? how can I hide the server icon on a computer and still be able to connect to it from my viewer computer ? -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Wojtowicz, Peter Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 11:26 AM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: Re: New Version of VNC Commander available Spectacular! I've already entered 15 of my servers into it. Two things I've noticed.. When viewing as "Details", the last column "Show connection Timer" should either be named "Hide connection Timer", or the value for each entry should be flipped from false to true.. It also doesn't seem to have support for my favoirite switch, "/viewonly". Still, an excellent utility. Thank you! I wish I'd heard of it sooner! -pete > Hi All, > A new version of VNC Commander is available for download. > I have incorporated some of your ideas into this release, > such as: > Improved details view, now has sort arrows on the column > headers, and it > remembers where you left it last. > Display name does not change when editing the server address. > One connection can be set to autoconnect when the program > is started. > Large Icon view is now sorted. > And other little things. > > You can download it for free at: > http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From murban@thinkinginvestments.com Wed Sep 5 21:29:30 2001 From: murban@thinkinginvestments.com (Michael Urban) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 20:29:30 +0000 Subject: multiple vncclients? Message-ID: I have a vnc server running on a win2000 box. Multiple users wish to connect to it. Presently whenever someone connects with vncclient, anyone else connected loses their connection. Is it possible to have multiple connections? Is it possible to prevent others from connecting if one already is connected? Michael. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From PCARSTE@CSKAUTO.COM Wed Sep 5 21:40:05 2001 From: PCARSTE@CSKAUTO.COM (Carstensen, Pete) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 20:40:05 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available Message-ID: Can I use the /shared switch on the new Commander version? *************************** Pete Carstensen, MCSE Senior LAN Engineer CSK Auto, Inc. 645 E. Missouri Ave. Phoenix, AZ 85012 (602) 631-7176 pcarste@cskauto.com Little surprises around every corner, but nothing dangerous. -- Willie Wonka -----Original Message----- From: Tony Caduto [mailto:tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 12:57 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available Hi All, A new version of VNC Commander is available for download. I have incorporated some of your ideas into this release, such as: Improved details view, now has sort arrows on the column headers, and it remembers where you left it last. Display name does not change when editing the server address. One connection can be set to autoconnect when the program is started. Large Icon view is now sorted. And other little things. You can download it for free at: http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com Ciao, Tony Caduto --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From PonsE@investorservices.net Wed Sep 5 21:59:09 2001 From: PonsE@investorservices.net (Pons, Eric) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 20:59:09 +0000 Subject: X windows server Message-ID: What I am trying to do is make it so that X-windows uses VNC server, but when you logon with a VNC Viewer you get an actual logon screen. So the user must have an account with that machine and the user merely logs into his account with VNC viewer. How would I setup Linux to do this? I have seen it done before... Thanks --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com Wed Sep 5 22:05:51 2001 From: Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com (Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 21:05:51 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available Message-ID: I have downloaded the new VNC Commander 1.0.0.46. I found that if you don't use the File/Exit command when exiting the prog, VNC_Commander.e will remain active on the sys tray. It can be killed through task manager though. Is there an option for Full Screen ?, I didn't see one.....but have only been using it a short while and could have missed it. Thanks, Mark mark_johnson@urscorp.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jsarinana@ksninc.com Wed Sep 5 22:14:42 2001 From: jsarinana@ksninc.com (Joe Sarinana) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 21:14:42 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000301c13647$0361bf00$82ed5e3f@ksn1> I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to it from a viewer ? _____ Joe Sarinana Network and CAD System Manager. KSN INC. www.ksninc.com 209-946-0268 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From david.m.fisher@eds.com Wed Sep 5 22:37:15 2001 From: david.m.fisher@eds.com (Fisher, Dave) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 21:37:15 +0000 Subject: Interactively Disable Local Keyboard and Mouse Message-ID: <8AA870658244D4119AF600508BDF0A3604BC6505@usahm014.exmi01.ex ch.eds.com> I am aware of the registry entries, I have included them below. Maybe you could explain to me how to set the registry settings to accept a connection upon time out. According to the doc below, the timeout entry "indicates the number of seconds for which the Accept Connection dialog will be displayed before REJECTING the incoming connection automatically" AuthHosts The AuthHosts setting is, unlike the other settings, a REG_SZ string. It is used to specify a set of IP address templates which incoming connections must match in order to be accepted. By default, the template is empty and connections from all hosts are accepted. The template is of the form: +[ip-address-template] ?[ip-address-template] -[ip-address-template] In the above, [ip-address-template] represents the leftmost bytes of the desired stringified IP-address. For example, +158.97 would match both 158.97.12.10 and 158.97.14.2. Multiple match terms may be specified, delimited by the ":" character. Terms appearing later in the template take precedence over earlier ones. e.g. -:+158.97: would filter out all incoming connections except those beginning with 158.97. Terms beginning with the "?" character are treated by default as indicating hosts from whom connections must be accepted at the server side via a dialog box. The QuerySetting option determines the precise behaviour of the three AuthHosts options. Local machine-specific setting. QuerySetting The QuerySetting allows individual users to tailor the degree of paranoia expressed by the per-machine AuthHosts setting. It is a DWORD value ranging from zero (maximum availability) to four (maximum security). The following table indicates how the value affects the AuthHosts behaviour: 0 - +:Accept, ?:Accept, -:Query 1 - +:Accept, ?:Accept, -:Reject 2 - +:Accept, ?:Query, -:Reject [Default] 3 - +:Query, ?:Query, -:Reject 4 - +:Query, ?:Reject, -:Reject By default, value 2 (Obey AuthHosts) will be assumed. Local & global per-user setting. QueryTimeout The QueryTimeout setting indicates the number of seconds for which the Accept Connection dialog (see AuthHosts and QuerySetting options) will be displayed before rejecting the incoming connection automatically. Local & global per-user setting. -----Original Message----- From: David Brodbeck [mailto:DavidB@mail.interclean.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:36 AM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Cc: 'david.m.fisher@eds.com' Subject: RE: Interactively Disable Local Keyboard and Mouse Did you read his post? He noted, paranthetically, that you can set it up so that if no one answers, it times out after a set number of seconds and lets you in. -----Original Message----- From: Fisher, Dave [mailto:david.m.fisher@eds.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 4:41 PM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: Interactively Disable Local Keyboard and Mouse The registry settings you talk about will not work since the query option will only give me access to the PC if someone is at the PC and using it. I do not want to access it then, I want to access it if no one is there. If no one is there, then no one can accept my request and I will not be able to access the PC. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Palocz [mailto:spalocz@tgtsolutions.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 12:21 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Interactively Disable Local Keyboard and Mouse Since the makers of VNC thought of this, There is an option you can set in the registry for a message to be displayed stating something about someone is taking control of this system do you want to let them... (what is even better is you can set it to disconnect or accept if it times out (no one is there)). --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Wed Sep 5 23:01:01 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 22:01:01 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available References: Message-ID: <000901c1364c$bbf22eb0$84061fac@tr3789> Yes, it was designed that way IE so you have to use the exit button or the file-exit in the main menu. I did it that way because if you are not using the viewer it takes up minimal resources and can be left running in the tray until you need it again Currently there is not a option for full screen. There should be no reason to kill it through the task manager, it takes longer to do that than just double click on the icon and click the exit button. Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- > I have downloaded the new VNC Commander 1.0.0.46. I found that if you > don't use the File/Exit command when exiting the prog, VNC_Commander.e > will remain active on the sys tray. It can be killed through task > manager though. > > Is there an option for Full Screen ? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jmaton@viztek.net Wed Sep 5 23:01:08 2001 From: jmaton@viztek.net (Jonathan Maton) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 22:01:08 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon References: <000301c13647$0361bf00$82ed5e3f@ksn1> Message-ID: <002901c1364c$92da02a0$6c886f0c@tupac> "Hiding the tray icon" This is sort of a "taboo" issue... mainly because there seems to be no legitimate reason to hide the server's icon. The only reason I can think of is to facilitate spying on someone, which I believe the good folks at AT&T Research are not interested in advertising, especially after the rather nasty article in Time magazine that proclaimed vnc to be nothing more than "spyware." Having said that... vnc is open source. You can download the source code and make whatever changes you want. But please don't be offended if no one on the list wishes to help you do it. We'd all hate to see the vnc project go closed source (or worse, be discontinued) due to any more bad press, and the "feature" you're after is the heart of it. ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Sarinana" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:11 PM Subject: Hiding icon > I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to it > from a viewer ? > > _____ > > Joe Sarinana > Network and CAD System Manager. > KSN INC. www.ksninc.com > 209-946-0268 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From David.Edward.Shapiro@btitele.com Wed Sep 5 23:01:17 2001 From: David.Edward.Shapiro@btitele.com (David Edward Shapiro) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 22:01:17 +0000 Subject: ssh and vnc and java Message-ID: <549AB966B45DD311A58A0000E86CEA8D0CAED71B@postoffice.btitele .com> I liked the http://server:5801 stuff. I want to do this using ssh though. I have securecrt. I set up my local workstation port 5801 to point to remote vnc server port 5801 (solaris 2.8/sparc running latest vnc) and then did http://localhost:5801. It got me the login, but after I log in it gives me the following error: java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused. Why did I get this and is there a way around this? Thanks....David --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Wed Sep 5 23:01:24 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 22:01:24 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available References: Message-ID: <001501c1364d$01acad40$84061fac@tr3789> There is a option to do that with the ActiveX control that it uses, I just did not add it. VNC Commander is a work in progress, so it will get better with further releases. Remember, I am doing this in my spare time, so it may not happen right away. Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carstensen, Pete" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 2:30 PM Subject: RE: New Version of VNC Commander available > Can I use the /shared switch on the new Commander version? > > > *************************** > Pete Carstensen, MCSE > Senior LAN Engineer > CSK Auto, Inc. > 645 E. Missouri Ave. > Phoenix, AZ 85012 > (602) 631-7176 > pcarste@cskauto.com > > Little surprises around every corner, but nothing dangerous. > -- Willie Wonka > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Caduto [mailto:tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 12:57 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available > > Hi All, > A new version of VNC Commander is available for download. > I have incorporated some of your ideas into this release, such as: > Improved details view, now has sort arrows on the column headers, and it > remembers where you left it last. > Display name does not change when editing the server address. > One connection can be set to autoconnect when the program is started. > Large Icon view is now sorted. > And other little things. > > You can download it for free at: > http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com > > > Ciao, > > Tony Caduto > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From lee@leadtec.com Wed Sep 5 23:13:38 2001 From: lee@leadtec.com (Lee Allen) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 22:13:38 +0000 Subject: X windows server References: Message-ID: <019401c13668$767eba80$0300a8c0@LEADTEC> I am running Xvnc on Linux in inetd mode, using xdm. This prompts the user for (Linux) user name and password. -Lee Allen ----- Original Message ----- From: Pons, Eric To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 12:50 PM Subject: X windows server > What I am trying to do is make it so that X-windows uses VNC server, but > when you logon with a VNC Viewer you get an actual logon screen. So the user > must have an account with that machine and the user merely logs into his > account with VNC viewer. How would I setup Linux to do this? I have seen it > done before... > Thanks > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Wed Sep 5 23:16:48 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 22:16:48 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon In-Reply-To: <002901c1364c$92da02a0$6c886f0c@tupac> Message-ID: CLAP,CLAP,CLAP on the spying thing and the good folks -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Jonathan Maton Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:52 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Hiding icon "Hiding the tray icon" This is sort of a "taboo" issue... mainly because there seems to be no legitimate reason to hide the server's icon. The only reason I can think of is to facilitate spying on someone, which I believe the good folks at AT&T Research are not interested in advertising, especially after the rather nasty article in Time magazine that proclaimed vnc to be nothing more than "spyware." Having said that... vnc is open source. You can download the source code and make whatever changes you want. But please don't be offended if no one on the list wishes to help you do it. We'd all hate to see the vnc project go closed source (or worse, be discontinued) due to any more bad press, and the "feature" you're after is the heart of it. ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Sarinana" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:11 PM Subject: Hiding icon > I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to it > from a viewer ? > > _____ > > Joe Sarinana > Network and CAD System Manager. > KSN INC. www.ksninc.com > 209-946-0268 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Wed Sep 5 23:36:42 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 22:36:42 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04D8D@QMAIL> Also, Tridia (http://www.tridiavnc.com) includes an icon-disabling registry key in their VNC distro. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Sarinana [mailto:jsarinana@ksninc.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:12 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Hiding icon I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to it from a viewer ? _____ Joe Sarinana Network and CAD System Manager. KSN INC. www.ksninc.com 209-946-0268 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jsarinana@ksninc.com Wed Sep 5 23:36:51 2001 From: jsarinana@ksninc.com (Joe Sarinana) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 22:36:51 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000501c13652$5f0229c0$82ed5e3f@ksn1> The only reason I want to hide this icon is because I have a computer WIN98 running on a peer to peer network that has JetAdmin installed on it. This computer is our print server for this peer network and from time to time some of the users need to log into this computer and screw with the print jobs. I want to hide it from these users so they don't feel obligated to screw with it just because it's there. Regards Joe S. any help out there ? -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 2:15 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Hiding icon CLAP,CLAP,CLAP on the spying thing and the good folks -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Jonathan Maton Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:52 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Hiding icon "Hiding the tray icon" This is sort of a "taboo" issue... mainly because there seems to be no legitimate reason to hide the server's icon. The only reason I can think of is to facilitate spying on someone, which I believe the good folks at AT&T Research are not interested in advertising, especially after the rather nasty article in Time magazine that proclaimed vnc to be nothing more than "spyware." Having said that... vnc is open source. You can download the source code and make whatever changes you want. But please don't be offended if no one on the list wishes to help you do it. We'd all hate to see the vnc project go closed source (or worse, be discontinued) due to any more bad press, and the "feature" you're after is the heart of it. ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Sarinana" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:11 PM Subject: Hiding icon > I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to it > from a viewer ? > > _____ > > Joe Sarinana > Network and CAD System Manager. > KSN INC. www.ksninc.com > 209-946-0268 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Wed Sep 5 23:42:03 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 22:42:03 +0000 Subject: VNC Access to pcs behind firewalls Message-ID: Anyone's got a clue (besides reading the doc and me being a wizard - however competent to set firewall policies) of how to remotely support people sitting behind a firewall (with NAT) translation txs Dietmar [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sczjd@yahoo.com Wed Sep 5 23:58:39 2001 From: sczjd@yahoo.com (SI Reasoning) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 22:58:39 +0000 Subject: ssh and vnc and java In-Reply-To: <549AB966B45DD311A58A0000E86CEA8D0CAED71B@postoffice.btitel e .com> Message-ID: <20010905215538.94662.qmail@web9507.mail.yahoo.com> you might have to also ssh -L 5801:remoteserver:5801 -L 5901:remoteserver:5901 firewall --- David Edward Shapiro wrote: > I liked the http://server:5801 stuff. I want to do > this using ssh though. > I have securecrt. I set up my local workstation > port 5801 to point to > remote vnc server port 5801 (solaris 2.8/sparc > running latest vnc) and then > did http://localhost:5801. It got me the login, but > after I log in it gives > me the following error: > > java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused. > > Why did I get this and is there a way around this? > > Thanks....David > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== SI Reasoning sczjd@yahoo.com gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalmisano@usashs.com Wed Sep 5 23:58:47 2001 From: spalmisano@usashs.com (Salvatore Palmisano) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 22:58:47 +0000 Subject: VNC Access to pcs behind firewalls In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c13655$e82c4520$0e00a8c0@shsnet.local> I do this all the time, just map your VNC connect port to the IP of the machine you're looking for and viola. Granted, this means you need either access to the firewall device or you'll have to convince an admin to add the mapping for you. --Salvatore -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:43 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: VNC Access to pcs behind firewalls Anyone's got a clue (besides reading the doc and me being a wizard - however competent to set firewall policies) of how to remotely support people sitting behind a firewall (with NAT) translation txs Dietmar --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.277 / Virus Database: 146 - Release Date: 9/5/2001 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From stefane.bridy@bigfoot.com Thu Sep 6 00:02:08 2001 From: stefane.bridy@bigfoot.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?St=E9fane_Bridy?=) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 23:02:08 +0000 Subject: Send Ctrl+Esc to remote computer : really no one knows how ? Message-ID: <3B96BC79.29495.899103@localhost> Hello I asked yesterday how to send Ctrl+Esc to bring up the start menu on a remote machine, but none of the suggestions work ... Does anyone know ? Best thanx for your help Stifane from Stitzerland > Well, I tried out your hints ... > > "shift ctrl+alt+del" works, but it isn't vital as "send > ctrl+alt+del" exists in menu > > "shift ctrl esc" seems to capture on NT 4, as it brings up NT > Task Manager on the local machine > > "shift alt tab" seems to capture also, as it does on the local > machine quite the same as "alt tab", but in the reverse > sequence > of programs > > I think I have the most recent versions of Viewer and > "shower", > for I downloaded vnc-3.3.3r9_x86_win32.zip today. When I have > both listening deamons running, in the about box, I have : > > viewer version 3.3.3 R3 ( is it normal it isn't R9 ? ) > and > WinVNC version 3.3.3 R9 > > I hope I don't have to code something on my computer, for I > know > how to use Word, Acces, ... Visual Basic, but this ... I > dunno > yet. > > So, doctor, why does it work on your machine and not on mine ? > > Is it my NT ? > > I'm looking forward to reading you. > > Stifane from Switzerland > > P.S. Is this VNC working different on every machine ?! Did you > read the guy who said "ctrl+down, esc, ctrl+up" works for him > ? > It doesn't for me ... > > > --- Eric Gisse escribis: > > what you do is add shift to any key sequence that windows > > captures > > > > shift control alt del > > shift alt tab > > shift control escape > > > > control C/V/P doesnt need shift because windows doesnt > capture > > it > > > > hope this helps > > > > At 03:21 PM 9/4/2001 +0200, you wrote: > > >Hi All, > > > > > >when I am connecting to other windows PC that has Start > > Console that is set to > > >"Auto Hide", it is very often hard to put the mouse in the > > right position so > > >it becomes visible again. Normaly in any sort of windows I > > use CTRL + ESC if I > > >want to access the Start Menu and Console quickly, but in > VNC > > it brings my > > >computer's Start Menu. > > > > > >Is there a way around this? > > > > > >Thanx in advance, > > > > > > Zoran --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From john_pierson@iname.com Thu Sep 6 00:10:07 2001 From: john_pierson@iname.com (john_pierson@iname.com) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 23:10:07 +0000 Subject: Send Ctrl+Esc to remote computer : really no one knows how ? Message-ID: <0GJ7005ZMMS5SR@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> the pain in the Butt method is to select CTRL Down from the menu, press Esc and there you have it (don't forget to select CTRL Up from the menu aftwards to reset it) John -----Original Message----- From: Stifane Bridy [mailto:stefane.bridy@bigfoot.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:00 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Send Ctrl+Esc to remote computer : really no one knows how ? Hello I asked yesterday how to send Ctrl+Esc to bring up the start menu on a remote machine, but none of the suggestions work ... Does anyone know ? Best thanx for your help Stifane from Stitzerland > Well, I tried out your hints ... > > "shift ctrl+alt+del" works, but it isn't vital as "send > ctrl+alt+del" exists in menu > > "shift ctrl esc" seems to capture on NT 4, as it brings up NT > Task Manager on the local machine > > "shift alt tab" seems to capture also, as it does on the local > machine quite the same as "alt tab", but in the reverse > sequence > of programs > > I think I have the most recent versions of Viewer and > "shower", > for I downloaded vnc-3.3.3r9_x86_win32.zip today. When I have > both listening deamons running, in the about box, I have : > > viewer version 3.3.3 R3 ( is it normal it isn't R9 ? ) > and > WinVNC version 3.3.3 R9 > > I hope I don't have to code something on my computer, for I > know > how to use Word, Acces, ... Visual Basic, but this ... I > dunno > yet. > > So, doctor, why does it work on your machine and not on mine ? > > Is it my NT ? > > I'm looking forward to reading you. > > Stifane from Switzerland > > P.S. Is this VNC working different on every machine ?! Did you > read the guy who said "ctrl+down, esc, ctrl+up" works for him > ? > It doesn't for me ... > > > --- Eric Gisse escribis: > > what you do is add shift to any key sequence that windows > > captures > > > > shift control alt del > > shift alt tab > > shift control escape > > > > control C/V/P doesnt need shift because windows doesnt > capture > > it > > > > hope this helps > > > > At 03:21 PM 9/4/2001 +0200, you wrote: > > >Hi All, > > > > > >when I am connecting to other windows PC that has Start > > Console that is set to > > >"Auto Hide", it is very often hard to put the mouse in the > > right position so > > >it becomes visible again. Normaly in any sort of windows I > > use CTRL + ESC if I > > >want to access the Start Menu and Console quickly, but in > VNC > > it brings my > > >computer's Start Menu. > > > > > >Is there a way around this? > > > > > >Thanx in advance, > > > > > > Zoran --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------- Download ICQ at http://www.icq.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From MattJ@lonestarpark.com Thu Sep 6 00:16:29 2001 From: MattJ@lonestarpark.com (Matt Jusko) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 23:16:29 +0000 Subject: Building VNC for SCO Message-ID: Tim- Hi. My name is Matt Jusko and I am in the same boat regarding compiling the VNC server for SCO Openserver. I was just wondering if you ever got it done and if so, would you share how? Any help would be appreciated. Matt Jusko mattj@lonestarpark.com -----Original Message----- From: Tim Sampson [mailto:tim@columbia-staver.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:10 AM To: VNC Mailing LIst (E-mail) Subject: Building VNC for SCO Hi I have no experience whatsoever of building software from source code. I've edited in the suggested tweaks for SCO Open Server, but what do I do with the code now? Is there a howto or some other easy guide that will help me here? Thanks Tim S --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From zmargareten@CJH.org Thu Sep 6 00:33:45 2001 From: zmargareten@CJH.org (Zalman Margareten) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 23:33:45 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon Message-ID: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126A0@CFJH> I will tell you how to do it if I can only understand what you are trying to accomplish. All they will see is the IP address (when they move the curser over the icon). You can disable opening the properties when clicking on the icon (in the latest version.) I don't recall how but it is explained in the documents. \ Cheers -----Original Message----- From: Joe Sarinana [mailto:jsarinana@ksninc.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:33 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Hiding icon The only reason I want to hide this icon is because I have a computer WIN98 running on a peer to peer network that has JetAdmin installed on it. This computer is our print server for this peer network and from time to time some of the users need to log into this computer and screw with the print jobs. I want to hide it from these users so they don't feel obligated to screw with it just because it's there. Regards Joe S. any help out there ? -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 2:15 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Hiding icon CLAP,CLAP,CLAP on the spying thing and the good folks -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Jonathan Maton Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:52 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Hiding icon "Hiding the tray icon" This is sort of a "taboo" issue... mainly because there seems to be no legitimate reason to hide the server's icon. The only reason I can think of is to facilitate spying on someone, which I believe the good folks at AT&T Research are not interested in advertising, especially after the rather nasty article in Time magazine that proclaimed vnc to be nothing more than "spyware." Having said that... vnc is open source. You can download the source code and make whatever changes you want. But please don't be offended if no one on the list wishes to help you do it. We'd all hate to see the vnc project go closed source (or worse, be discontinued) due to any more bad press, and the "feature" you're after is the heart of it. ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Sarinana" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:11 PM Subject: Hiding icon > I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to it > from a viewer ? > > _____ > > Joe Sarinana > Network and CAD System Manager. > KSN INC. www.ksninc.com > 209-946-0268 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From zmargareten@CJH.org Thu Sep 6 00:40:49 2001 From: zmargareten@CJH.org (Zalman Margareten) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 23:40:49 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available Message-ID: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126A1@CFJH> Great product! thanks Am I missing something? In the list of computers I only see icons with no description of which computers they are. Oh I just noticed, when in the "view details" mode it will list server name. I think that name should appear as default with all views since all icons look the same and there is no way of knowing which computer it is. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ccah@thegreen.co.uk Thu Sep 6 01:29:41 2001 From: ccah@thegreen.co.uk (Ceri Hankey) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 00:29:41 +0000 Subject: vnc as service on w2k References: <000501c1355a$4e14cf80$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> Message-ID: <010a01c13661$c86ed980$6764a8c0@ceri4> I have just been thru the same process and found that Win2K had THREE password settings in the registry... HKEY_CURRENT USER and HKEY_USERS had the same key that I had set BUT the HKEY_LOC_MACHINE had a different Default password. I cheated by copying the HKEY_USER password for WinVNC to the HKEY_LOC_MACHINE Default password for VNC Every thing then worked fine. I do not really understand this since on my system (NOT the one a talked about above) all the passwords seem to be the same in the registry! Regards Ceri Hankey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Palocz" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 5:57 PM Subject: RE: vnc as service on w2k > It could be that you have set the user password not the default. this can be > reached via start button -> programs -> vnc -> administrative tools -> show > default settings. > If there is a password shown by **** then just click ok. if not set it to > the same as you are currently using and ok it. > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of > Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 7:30 AM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: vnc as service on w2k > > > Hi out there, > being a novice in using vnc I'm doing something wrong or misunderstood: > 1. I'm running vnc on a w2k machine as a service which works (tray icon > present, service on automatic) > however only after someone logged in > 2. Obviously, after remote reboot I want to re-log in getting a "sorry" from > -.-.:5800 or "authentication > failed" from the viewer until logged in. > I think I've followed all instructions properly. What am I dooing wrong? > Dietmar > > [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a > name of winmail.dat] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From zmargareten@CJH.org Thu Sep 6 01:34:16 2001 From: zmargareten@CJH.org (Zalman Margareten) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 00:34:16 +0000 Subject: VNC Access to pcs behind firewalls Message-ID: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126A2@CFJH> Are u asking about incoming connections or outgoing? Also what firewall do u have, application level, Socks ? You might have to go with some type of tunneling. Give us more details. -----Original Message----- From: Salvatore Palmisano [mailto:spalmisano@usashs.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:59 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: VNC Access to pcs behind firewalls I do this all the time, just map your VNC connect port to the IP of the machine you're looking for and viola. Granted, this means you need either access to the firewall device or you'll have to convince an admin to add the mapping for you. --Salvatore -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:43 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: VNC Access to pcs behind firewalls Anyone's got a clue (besides reading the doc and me being a wizard - however competent to set firewall policies) of how to remotely support people sitting behind a firewall (with NAT) translation txs Dietmar --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.277 / Virus Database: 146 - Release Date: 9/5/2001 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From rudi.de.vos@skynet.be Thu Sep 6 01:56:03 2001 From: rudi.de.vos@skynet.be (De Vos Rudi) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 00:56:03 +0000 Subject: Beta mirror hook driver working Message-ID: <3B96BD01.5B30DD39@skynet.be> Hookdll and polling disabled and it seems to work. Thanks for the hint, I forgot that the cached bitmaps are also copied using drvcopybits. Ringbuffer of 100 was also to small, gets more than 1000/s. Bigger buffer solved the problem of bad updates. still to do 1) Driver need to check if the vncsite ringbuffer exist. _try or something. So driver could direct write to the vnc buffer. Now copy full buffer on each vnc updaterequest. 2) disable the region scanning on vnc site. Need some sleep know. Rudi --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au Thu Sep 6 02:10:34 2001 From: itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au (Ellen Reisinger) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 01:10:34 +0000 Subject: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) Message-ID: <01E09A5A.3154F3A0.itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au> I have searched the http://www.uk.research.att.com/cgi-bin/htsearch to try and find out what vnc commander is. but there were no hits for "vnc commander". can someone please point me in the right driection to read what it is (or for that matter more on vnc). Cheers, Ellen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From malturk2@bellsouth.net Thu Sep 6 02:30:28 2001 From: malturk2@bellsouth.net (Muhamad Alturkistany) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 01:30:28 +0000 Subject: Java viewer is faster than native Windows Viewer!? Message-ID: <001401c1366a$64a43180$896b1442@h884j> Hi I did some performance evaluation and found Java viewer is faster than the native Windows one. Did any one at uk.research.att.com notice this? My intuition, it may be Windows viewer is not optimized specially its use of threads. Any comment is welcome. M Al-Turkistany --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From darryl@the-ackermans.net Thu Sep 6 02:44:36 2001 From: darryl@the-ackermans.net (Darryl Ackerman) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 01:44:36 +0000 Subject: Changing WinVNC service port Message-ID: <00a301c1366c$a5fe7850$0b00a8c0@sfc.net> Does anyone know how to change the port that the server listens on? Thanks, Darryl --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From david.m.fisher@eds.com Thu Sep 6 03:20:18 2001 From: david.m.fisher@eds.com (Fisher, Dave) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 02:20:18 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon Message-ID: <8AA870658244D4119AF600508BDF0A3604BC6507@usahm014.exmi01.ex ch.eds.com> Here is the registry doco on hiding the properties: WinVNC - Advanced Settings Extra options have been added to WinVNC for use primarily by system administrators, to tailor the server's behavior to meet their particular needs. The options are DWORD values which can be set in the system registry, and tools such as the Windows Policy Editor can be used to apply these settings across a large number of machines. Versions 3.3.2 R5 and later use a more sophisticated organisation of these options to allow more flexibility. It also makes it rather complex, so we're thinking about alternative ways of doing this. WinVNC will currently look for settings in the following places: Local machine-specific settings. Options specified here are not overridable. Location: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\ Local default user settings. Location: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\Default Local per-user settings. These override the local default user settings. If there is no current user, the username SYSTEM will be used. Location: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\ Global per-user settings. These are only read if AllowProperties has not been set to zero (see below) Location: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ORL\WinVNC3 Most options can only be specified in a subset of these places, as specified in each option's description below. Advanced Options: AllowProperties If this is set to zero, the user is not allowed to view the properties dialog and hence cannot change any settings, including the password. Note that this stops all global per-user settings. A valid password must therefore be in force before using this setting, generally in the local default-user setting. Local per-user setting. -----Original Message----- From: Zalman Margareten [mailto:zmargareten@CJH.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 6:30 PM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: Hiding icon I will tell you how to do it if I can only understand what you are trying to accomplish. All they will see is the IP address (when they move the curser over the icon). You can disable opening the properties when clicking on the icon (in the latest version.) I don't recall how but it is explained in the documents. \ Cheers -----Original Message----- From: Joe Sarinana [mailto:jsarinana@ksninc.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:33 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Hiding icon The only reason I want to hide this icon is because I have a computer WIN98 running on a peer to peer network that has JetAdmin installed on it. This computer is our print server for this peer network and from time to time some of the users need to log into this computer and screw with the print jobs. I want to hide it from these users so they don't feel obligated to screw with it just because it's there. Regards Joe S. any help out there ? -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 2:15 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Hiding icon CLAP,CLAP,CLAP on the spying thing and the good folks -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Jonathan Maton Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:52 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Hiding icon "Hiding the tray icon" This is sort of a "taboo" issue... mainly because there seems to be no legitimate reason to hide the server's icon. The only reason I can think of is to facilitate spying on someone, which I believe the good folks at AT&T Research are not interested in advertising, especially after the rather nasty article in Time magazine that proclaimed vnc to be nothing more than "spyware." Having said that... vnc is open source. You can download the source code and make whatever changes you want. But please don't be offended if no one on the list wishes to help you do it. We'd all hate to see the vnc project go closed source (or worse, be discontinued) due to any more bad press, and the "feature" you're after is the heart of it. ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Sarinana" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:11 PM Subject: Hiding icon > I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to it > from a viewer ? > > _____ > > Joe Sarinana > Network and CAD System Manager. > KSN INC. www.ksninc.com > 209-946-0268 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Thu Sep 6 03:37:59 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 02:37:59 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available References: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126A1@CFJH> Message-ID: <001c01c13675$5902e500$0201a8c0@athlon1000> You must be missing something, In the large icon mode each icon has a caption that describes the connection. Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zalman Margareten" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:35 PM Subject: RE: New Version of VNC Commander available > Great product! thanks > > Am I missing something? In the list of computers I only see icons with no > description of which computers they are. > Oh I just noticed, when in the "view details" mode it will list server name. > I think that name should appear as default with all views since all icons > look the same and there is no way of knowing which computer it is. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Thu Sep 6 03:38:02 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 02:38:02 +0000 Subject: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) References: <01E09A5A.3154F3A0.itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au> Message-ID: <001401c13675$1ae5b5e0$0201a8c0@athlon1000> You can find out about VNC Commander at my website. http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ellen Reisinger" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2029 7:24 PM Subject: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) > I have searched the http://www.uk.research.att.com/cgi-bin/htsearch to try > and find out what vnc commander is. but there were no hits for "vnc > commander". can someone please point me in the right driection to read what > it is (or for that matter more on vnc). > > Cheers, > > Ellen > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au Thu Sep 6 06:09:08 2001 From: itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au (Ellen Reisinger) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 05:09:08 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon Message-ID: <01E09A7B.7E262980.itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au> Can someone explain this to me in really simple terms (please). I have been in to regedit, found have drilled own and found values under each of the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\ HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\Default HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\ HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ORL\WinVNC3 but am unsure where to proceed from there. I guess it doesn't help that I have a limited understanding of the registry editor. I have tried looking up dword values in my ref text called Optimizing the windows registry, but I still don't quite grasp what I am supposed to put where. Help. Cheers, Ellen -----Original Message----- From: Fisher, Dave [SMTP:david.m.fisher@eds.com] Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2001 10:46 AM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: Hiding icon Here is the registry doco on hiding the properties: WinVNC - Advanced Settings Extra options have been added to WinVNC for use primarily by system administrators, to tailor the server's behavior to meet their particular needs. The options are DWORD values which can be set in the system registry, and tools such as the Windows Policy Editor can be used to apply these settings across a large number of machines. Versions 3.3.2 R5 and later use a more sophisticated organisation of these options to allow more flexibility. It also makes it rather complex, so we're thinking about alternative ways of doing this. WinVNC will currently look for settings in the following places: Local machine-specific settings. Options specified here are not overridable. Location: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\ Local default user settings. Location: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\Default Local per-user settings. These override the local default user settings. If there is no current user, the username SYSTEM will be used. Location: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\ Global per-user settings. These are only read if AllowProperties has not been set to zero (see below) Location: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ORL\WinVNC3 Most options can only be specified in a subset of these places, as specified in each option's description below. Advanced Options: AllowProperties If this is set to zero, the user is not allowed to view the properties dialog and hence cannot change any settings, including the password. Note that this stops all global per-user settings. A valid password must therefore be in force before using this setting, generally in the local default-user setting. Local per-user setting. -----Original Message----- From: Zalman Margareten [mailto:zmargareten@CJH.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 6:30 PM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: Hiding icon I will tell you how to do it if I can only understand what you are trying to accomplish. All they will see is the IP address (when they move the curser over the icon). You can disable opening the properties when clicking on the icon (in the latest version.) I don't recall how but it is explained in the documents. \ Cheers -----Original Message----- From: Joe Sarinana [mailto:jsarinana@ksninc.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:33 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Hiding icon The only reason I want to hide this icon is because I have a computer WIN98 running on a peer to peer network that has JetAdmin installed on it. This computer is our print server for this peer network and from time to time some of the users need to log into this computer and screw with the print jobs. I want to hide it from these users so they don't feel obligated to screw with it just because it's there. Regards Joe S. any help out there ? -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 2:15 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Hiding icon CLAP,CLAP,CLAP on the spying thing and the good folks -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Jonathan Maton Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:52 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Hiding icon "Hiding the tray icon" This is sort of a "taboo" issue... mainly because there seems to be no legitimate reason to hide the server's icon. The only reason I can think of is to facilitate spying on someone, which I believe the good folks at AT&T Research are not interested in advertising, especially after the rather nasty article in Time magazine that proclaimed vnc to be nothing more than "spyware." Having said that... vnc is open source. You can download the source code and make whatever changes you want. But please don't be offended if no one on the list wishes to help you do it. We'd all hate to see the vnc project go closed source (or worse, be discontinued) due to any more bad press, and the "feature" you're after is the heart of it. ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Sarinana" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:11 PM Subject: Hiding icon > I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to it > from a viewer ? > > _____ > > Joe Sarinana > Network and CAD System Manager. > KSN INC. www.ksninc.com > 209-946-0268 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au Thu Sep 6 09:09:40 2001 From: itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au (Ellen Reisinger) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 08:09:40 +0000 Subject: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) Message-ID: <01E09A93.DE34FF00.itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au> Wow! This is great! We currently have no systems in place to manage our 300 odd computers and 5 servers. We have just started getting into VNC. I can't wait to have winVnc installed on all the workstations! With VNC Commander - Is there a limit to the number of computers you can have listed? What limit is there to the number of concurrent connections? Guess this is all in the documentation. Question about winVNC ... we use dhcp, is there a way that i can log into systems without having to know their ip address, for example using the adapter address (as this info is readily available on my asset db)? Ellen -----Original Message----- From: Tony Caduto [SMTP:tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com] Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2001 11:12 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Cc: itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au Subject: Re: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) You can find out about VNC Commander at my website. http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ellen Reisinger" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2029 7:24 PM Subject: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) > I have searched the http://www.uk.research.att.com/cgi-bin/htsearch to try > and find out what vnc commander is. but there were no hits for "vnc > commander". can someone please point me in the right driection to read what > it is (or for that matter more on vnc). > > Cheers, > > Ellen > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From dwyllie@s-un.co.uk Thu Sep 6 09:28:04 2001 From: dwyllie@s-un.co.uk (Daniel Wyllie) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 08:28:04 +0000 Subject: multiple vncclients? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000401c136a4$986ef6f0$1fab0180@systemsx> Michael, It's easy to prevent new connection requests killing an existing connection. If you are using R9 of ATT's VNC, add the following entry: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3] "ConnectPriority"=dword:00000002 I've used this, and it works a treat. If you need more info on this and the other "features", just look at the AT&T website that documents the VNC Server app: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/winvnc.html Hope that makes sense! :) Regards, Dan Wyllie -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Michael Urban Sent: 05 September 2001 20:27 PM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: multiple vncclients? I have a vnc server running on a win2000 box. Multiple users wish to connect to it. Presently whenever someone connects with vncclient, anyone else connected loses their connection. Is it possible to have multiple connections? Is it possible to prevent others from connecting if one already is connected? Michael. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Thu Sep 6 10:10:57 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 09:10:57 +0000 Subject: VNC Access to pcs behind firewalls In-Reply-To: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126A2@CFJH> Message-ID: it is about inbound servicing individual PCs in a Lan behind an Axent/Raptor firewall from a remote workstation. What I'm wondering particularly about is as to how I would address individual IP adresses behind the firewall etc. I can, however have - within boundaries of security - the firewall configured according to needs Dietmar -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Zalman Margareten Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 1:31 AM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: VNC Access to pcs behind firewalls Are u asking about incoming connections or outgoing? Also what firewall do u have, application level, Socks ? You might have to go with some type of tunneling. Give us more details. -----Original Message----- From: Salvatore Palmisano [mailto:spalmisano@usashs.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:59 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: VNC Access to pcs behind firewalls I do this all the time, just map your VNC connect port to the IP of the machine you're looking for and viola. Granted, this means you need either access to the firewall device or you'll have to convince an admin to add the mapping for you. --Salvatore -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:43 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: VNC Access to pcs behind firewalls Anyone's got a clue (besides reading the doc and me being a wizard - however competent to set firewall policies) of how to remotely support people sitting behind a firewall (with NAT) translation txs Dietmar --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.277 / Virus Database: 146 - Release Date: 9/5/2001 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tim@columbia-staver.co.uk Thu Sep 6 10:12:41 2001 From: tim@columbia-staver.co.uk (Tim Sampson) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 09:12:41 +0000 Subject: Building VNC for SCO Message-ID: Matt I've given up for a while. I got bogged down in trying to compile the tools required to compile VNC. If I ever get there, I may document the process as nobody else seems to have done so. Cheers Tim -----Original Message----- From: Matt Jusko [mailto:MattJ@lonestarpark.com] Sent: 05 September 2001 23:14 To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: Building VNC for SCO Tim- Hi. My name is Matt Jusko and I am in the same boat regarding compiling the VNC server for SCO Openserver. I was just wondering if you ever got it done and if so, would you share how? Any help would be appreciated. Matt Jusko mattj@lonestarpark.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Thu Sep 6 10:34:15 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 09:34:15 +0000 Subject: Changing WinVNC service port In-Reply-To: <00a301c1366c$a5fe7850$0b00a8c0@sfc.net> Message-ID: May I add to this the question as to which ports are actually used for what: (i) 5900 by commander/viewer? (ii) 5800 over the browser ? and how can they be changed (see below) -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Darryl Ackerman Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 2:41 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Changing WinVNC service port Does anyone know how to change the port that the server listens on? Thanks, Darryl --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From yan@cardinalengineering.com Thu Sep 6 11:54:22 2001 From: yan@cardinalengineering.com (Yan Seiner) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 10:54:22 +0000 Subject: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) References: <01E09A93.DE34FF00.itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au> Message-ID: <3B97462A.9E9E900E@cardinalengineering.com> This is why I don't use DHCP..... You could cross-reference from arp tables to MAC addresses. I don't know if your machine is win or linux; on linux: [yan@aphrodite yan]$ /sbin/arp Address HWtype HWaddress Flags Mask Iface ophelia.cardinal.lan ether 00:A0:24:89:C7:9F C eth0 hamlet.cardinal.lan ether 00:A0:24:89:C7:9F C eth0 othello-er.cardinal.lan ppp 00:A0:24:89:C7:9F CM tun3 othello-r.cardinal.lan ppp 00:A0:24:89:C7:9F CM tun1 portia.cardinalengineer ether 00:60:68:80:34:9C C eth1 oberon-r.cardinal.lan ppp 00:60:68:80:34:9C CM tun0 A neat cross-refence between computer names (or ip addresses if you're not running DNS) and MAC addresses. (Ignore the duplicates; the machines above are "virtual" with no real hardware). --Yan Ellen Reisinger wrote: > > Wow! This is great! We currently have no systems in place to manage our > 300 odd computers and 5 servers. We have just started getting into VNC. I > can't wait to have winVnc installed on all the workstations! > > With VNC Commander - Is there a limit to the number of computers you can > have listed? What limit is there to the number of concurrent connections? > Guess this is all in the documentation. > > Question about winVNC ... we use dhcp, is there a way that i can log into > systems without having to know their ip address, for example using the > adapter address (as this info is readily available on my asset db)? > > Ellen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From david.m.fisher@eds.com Thu Sep 6 12:20:26 2001 From: david.m.fisher@eds.com (Fisher, Dave) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 11:20:26 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon Message-ID: <8AA870658244D4119AF600508BDF0A3604BC6506@usahm014.exmi01.ex ch.eds.com> The icon shows in the task bar because WinVNC with the -servicehelper flag is in the RUN on startup list. As long as you have WinVNC set up as a service it will start up whey your PC does. You do not need the service helper running to run WinVNC. Use Policy Editor or edit the registry and remove it. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Sarinana [mailto:jsarinana@ksninc.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:12 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Hiding icon I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to it from a viewer ? _____ Joe Sarinana Network and CAD System Manager. KSN INC. www.ksninc.com 209-946-0268 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From stuart.loughran@ntu.ac.uk Thu Sep 6 12:51:16 2001 From: stuart.loughran@ntu.ac.uk (Loughran, Stuart) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 11:51:16 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon Message-ID: <03754DDCC645D311AA6700805F854E4304A872CE@lotus.ntu.ac.uk> On the other hand, is there a way of the client being notified that their machine is being viewed by way of a pop up message or other? Stu -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Maton [mailto:jmaton@viztek.net] Sent: 05 September 2001 21:52 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Hiding icon "Hiding the tray icon" This is sort of a "taboo" issue... mainly because there seems to be no legitimate reason to hide the server's icon. The only reason I can think of is to facilitate spying on someone, which I believe the good folks at AT&T Research are not interested in advertising, especially after the rather nasty article in Time magazine that proclaimed vnc to be nothing more than "spyware." Having said that... vnc is open source. You can download the source code and make whatever changes you want. But please don't be offended if no one on the list wishes to help you do it. We'd all hate to see the vnc project go closed source (or worse, be discontinued) due to any more bad press, and the "feature" you're after is the heart of it. ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Sarinana" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:11 PM Subject: Hiding icon > I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to it > from a viewer ? > > _____ > > Joe Sarinana > Network and CAD System Manager. > KSN INC. www.ksninc.com > 209-946-0268 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Thu Sep 6 14:10:30 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 13:10:30 +0000 Subject: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04D8F@QMAIL> The only way to do this that I can think of on Windows without "knowing their IP address" would be to set up a dynamic DNS solution (there are a number of providers for this, off-hand see http://www.dyndns.org and if you want to set up your own "service" I think I saw something on http://freshmeat.net). In this method, there's a small client program that runs on the windows machine you want to control, you set each machine up with it's own hostname (ie, box1.domain.com, box2.domain.com, etc), and therefore when each machine "connects" to the network, the client program broadcasts out the system's current IP to the configured DNS server - so you can always hit "box1.domain.com" and always have it go to Bob's machine. On second thought, the other way to do this would be to use VNCScan from your desktop if you as the controller are running Windows as well (see the "contrib" section on the VNC site), except you may have to scan frequently depending on how long you've set your DHCP leases to expire. Good luck. Glenn -----Original Message----- From: Ellen Reisinger [mailto:itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2029 3:18 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) Wow! This is great! We currently have no systems in place to manage our 300 odd computers and 5 servers. We have just started getting into VNC. I can't wait to have winVnc installed on all the workstations! With VNC Commander - Is there a limit to the number of computers you can have listed? What limit is there to the number of concurrent connections? Guess this is all in the documentation. Question about winVNC ... we use dhcp, is there a way that i can log into systems without having to know their ip address, for example using the adapter address (as this info is readily available on my asset db)? Ellen -----Original Message----- From: Tony Caduto [SMTP:tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com] Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2001 11:12 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Cc: itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au Subject: Re: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) You can find out about VNC Commander at my website. http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ellen Reisinger" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2029 7:24 PM Subject: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) > I have searched the http://www.uk.research.att.com/cgi-bin/htsearch to try > and find out what vnc commander is. but there were no hits for "vnc > commander". can someone please point me in the right driection to read what > it is (or for that matter more on vnc). > > Cheers, > > Ellen > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Thu Sep 6 14:19:00 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 13:19:00 +0000 Subject: multiple vncclients? Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04D90@QMAIL> As someone already posted, connection behaviour on Windows is controlled with the "ConnectPriority" registry key. It should also be noted that there's an option on the viewer side to "request shared connection", which by default will allow multiple connections to the same desktop. Just to clarify (and you probably already know this), winvnc will allow multiple connections to the SAME desktop on Windows, but you presently can't get DIFFERENT desktops under Windows with VNC. Thanks, Glenn -----Original Message----- From: Michael Urban [mailto:murban@thinkinginvestments.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 3:27 PM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: multiple vncclients? I have a vnc server running on a win2000 box. Multiple users wish to connect to it. Presently whenever someone connects with vncclient, anyone else connected loses their connection. Is it possible to have multiple connections? Is it possible to prevent others from connecting if one already is connected? Michael. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Thu Sep 6 14:20:33 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 13:20:33 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04D91@QMAIL> Yes, on Windows consult the documentation for the "AuthHosts" key. -----Original Message----- From: Loughran, Stuart [mailto:stuart.loughran@ntu.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 6:47 AM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: Hiding icon On the other hand, is there a way of the client being notified that their machine is being viewed by way of a pop up message or other? Stu -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Maton [mailto:jmaton@viztek.net] Sent: 05 September 2001 21:52 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Hiding icon "Hiding the tray icon" This is sort of a "taboo" issue... mainly because there seems to be no legitimate reason to hide the server's icon. The only reason I can think of is to facilitate spying on someone, which I believe the good folks at AT&T Research are not interested in advertising, especially after the rather nasty article in Time magazine that proclaimed vnc to be nothing more than "spyware." Having said that... vnc is open source. You can download the source code and make whatever changes you want. But please don't be offended if no one on the list wishes to help you do it. We'd all hate to see the vnc project go closed source (or worse, be discontinued) due to any more bad press, and the "feature" you're after is the heart of it. ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Sarinana" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:11 PM Subject: Hiding icon > I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to it > from a viewer ? > > _____ > > Joe Sarinana > Network and CAD System Manager. > KSN INC. www.ksninc.com > 209-946-0268 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com Thu Sep 6 14:35:27 2001 From: Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com (Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 13:35:27 +0000 Subject: Hiding Icon Message-ID: Ellen, I as yourself have only played with VNC for a day or two. The registry editing can seem a bit mysterious, but really isn't that bad. >From what i've used, the section i've been editing is: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\Default (which I think affects everyone who logs on the machine...admins included.) For example AllowProperties. You will not see this in the registry settings, but to add this value. Right click on Default/New/DWord Value, type in the name of the value AllowProperties and set the value to 1. A setting of 1 will allow users to access the properties. Close winvnc and stop the service "net stop winvnc" Change the AllowProperties Value to 0. Close regedit, start winvnc "net start winvnc", start the srevice helper if its not there. C:\Program Files\Orl\Vnc\winvnc -srevice helper (from CMD prompt) and try to access the properties. You should now see that it is greyed out and inacessible. The same works the DWord value AllowShutdown. This way, you can prevent users from changing the properties or closing the tray icon. I'm assuming that as long as they have admin rights, a user could still run "net stop winvnc". ps...always try to have the machine your connecting to be set to run winvnc as service. - -----Original Message----- Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2029 13:53:19 +0930 From: Ellen Reisinger Subject: RE: Hiding icon Can someone explain this to me in really simple terms (please). I have been in to regedit, found have drilled own and found values under each of the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\ HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\Default HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\ HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ORL\WinVNC3 but am unsure where to proceed from there. I guess it doesn't help that I have a limited understanding of the registry editor. I have tried looking up dword values in my ref text called Optimizing the windows registry, but I still don't quite grasp what I am supposed to put where. Help. Cheers, Ellen ----------------------------- - --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com Thu Sep 6 15:02:11 2001 From: Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com (Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 14:02:11 +0000 Subject: Auto Install VNC on Win2K Domain ? Message-ID: I am trying to push VNC to my workstations with my current registry settings. I think there are 2 or 3 possible ways to do this. 1. Using the "FastPush" script: http://www.synik.f9.co.uk/vnc/ 2. Using a customizable setup creator: http://www.jrsoftware.org/isinfo.htm 3. Using Win2K Group Policies to install ? Option 1. seems to be possible using a standard login script with many modifications. Option 2. would work if i could get everyone to run the setup. Option 3. may be the best bet. I'm familiar with setting policies for locking desktops and explorer etc., but not with pushing out software. So...If anyone has tried this and gotten it to work, or has any ideas i'd like to hear about it. Thanks, Mark Johnson Systems Admin URS, Bethesda MD --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Thu Sep 6 15:08:17 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 14:08:17 +0000 Subject: Changing WinVNC service port Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04D92@QMAIL> yes, consult the winvnc documentation for "AutoPortSelect" and "PortNumber" registry keys. -----Original Message----- From: Darryl Ackerman [mailto:darryl@the-ackermans.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 8:41 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Changing WinVNC service port Does anyone know how to change the port that the server listens on? Thanks, Darryl --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jmaton@viztek.net Thu Sep 6 15:09:42 2001 From: jmaton@viztek.net (Jonathan Maton) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 14:09:42 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon References: <03754DDCC645D311AA6700805F854E4304A872CE@lotus.ntu.ac.uk> Message-ID: <006201c136d4$a022dad0$6c886f0c@tupac> Ah - now this is a good question. Currently the tray icon reverses colors, but if your resolution is very large (say 1024x768 or higher) the icon is so small anyway that one is likely not to notice the change. For our purposes we were considering making the icon blink between normal and reversed colors for the entire duration that a viewer is connected. We considered a pop-up message, but that is a bit too intrusive, especially if your clients are radiologists trying to read exams. I will probably end up doing the icon-flash thing, if anyone is interested in the change I will post the relevant lines of code to enable the effect. ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loughran, Stuart" To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 6:47 AM Subject: RE: Hiding icon > On the other hand, is there a way of the client being notified that their > machine is being viewed by way of a pop up message or other? > > Stu > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Maton [mailto:jmaton@viztek.net] > Sent: 05 September 2001 21:52 > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: Hiding icon > > > "Hiding the tray icon" > > This is sort of a "taboo" issue... mainly because there seems to be no > legitimate reason to hide the server's icon. The only reason I can think of > is to facilitate spying on someone, which I believe the good folks at AT&T > Research are not interested in advertising, especially after the rather > nasty article in Time magazine that proclaimed vnc to be nothing more than > "spyware." > > Having said that... vnc is open source. You can download the source code > and make whatever changes you want. But please don't be offended if no one > on the list wishes to help you do it. We'd all hate to see the vnc project > go closed source (or worse, be discontinued) due to any more bad press, and > the "feature" you're after is the heart of it. > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Jonathan Maton, Development Team > Viztek, Inc. > > makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software > (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) > ------------------------------------------------------ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Sarinana" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:11 PM > Subject: Hiding icon > > > > I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to > it > > from a viewer ? > > > > _____ > > > > Joe Sarinana > > Network and CAD System Manager. > > KSN INC. www.ksninc.com > > 209-946-0268 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jnw22@cam.ac.uk Thu Sep 6 15:14:15 2001 From: jnw22@cam.ac.uk (James ''Wez'' Weatherall) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 14:14:15 +0000 Subject: WinVNC 3.3.3r7/r9 and Win2K Reboots Message-ID: <001501c136d5$7a04bf70$1062a981@eng.cam.ac.uk> To clarify a few points about sudden reboots of Win2K and their apparent relation to WinVNC in some cases: WinVNC can be very CPU, network and display intensive. The consequences of this are that a problem in any one of these systems can cause seemingly unpredictable bluescreens or even sudden reboots. Problems with drivers will usually show up in the form of blue-screen errors, which suggests that the recently reported problems are not in drivers. However, ensuring that you have the latest drivers for your system and, where possible, that they are certified drivers for Win2K, is a good plan. As for sudden reboots without the normal bluescreen - this could be caused either by a faulty power supply (a very common cause), or by a motherboard previously damaged by a faulty power supply, or by the power supply being incapable of powering a machine with so many devices, or by the CPU overheating and the motherboard shutting it off, for example. Obviously, these are just examples but in my experience they're good things to check. Programs such as SiSoft's Sandra can often highlight subtle problems in systems. (I mention Sandra because I personally have used it and I would recommend it - this is not a formal endorsement and has nothing to do with AT&T Labs, AT&T, or the LCE!) Cheers, --- James "Wez" Weatherall "The path to enlightenment is /usr/bin/enlightenment" Laboratory for Communications Engineering, Cambridge - Tel : 766513 AT&T Labs Cambridge, UK - Tel : 343000 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From shobson@colony.com Thu Sep 6 15:34:13 2001 From: shobson@colony.com (Simon Hobson) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 14:34:13 +0000 Subject: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) In-Reply-To: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04D8F@QMAIL> Message-ID: Glenn Mabbutt wrote: >The only way to do this that I can think of on Windows without "knowing >their IP address" would be to set up a dynamic DNS solution (there are a >number of providers for this, off-hand see http://www.dyndns.org and if you >want to set up your own "service" I think I saw something on >http://freshmeat.net). In this method, there's a small client program that >runs on the windows machine you want to control, you set each machine up >with it's own hostname (ie, box1.domain.com, box2.domain.com, etc), and >therefore when each machine "connects" to the network, the client program >broadcasts out the system's current IP to the configured DNS server - so you >can always hit "box1.domain.com" and always have it go to Bob's machine. If you have a system to host it on, you could also use the DHCP and DNS servers from the Internet Software Consortium (www.isc.org), or others, and do dynamic DNS updates from the DHCP server. This requires no special provisions on the clients to keep an up-to-date DNS. I'm fairly certain that W2000 can do dynamic updates in the DNS server, but I don't know about it's DHCP server (I avoid Windoze as much as possible). Simon --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From stuart.loughran@ntu.ac.uk Thu Sep 6 15:38:24 2001 From: stuart.loughran@ntu.ac.uk (Loughran, Stuart) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 14:38:24 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon Message-ID: <03754DDCC645D311AA6700805F854E4304A872D5@lotus.ntu.ac.uk> Our clients may not notice if their machine had disappeared never mind an icon that blinks. For my purposes, I don't even want to enter into the violation argument and I want to give my users as much notice as possible that I'm taking over their machine or watching what they do in a particular instance. Stu -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Maton [mailto:jmaton@viztek.net] Sent: 06 September 2001 14:05 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Hiding icon Ah - now this is a good question. Currently the tray icon reverses colors, but if your resolution is very large (say 1024x768 or higher) the icon is so small anyway that one is likely not to notice the change. For our purposes we were considering making the icon blink between normal and reversed colors for the entire duration that a viewer is connected. We considered a pop-up message, but that is a bit too intrusive, especially if your clients are radiologists trying to read exams. I will probably end up doing the icon-flash thing, if anyone is interested in the change I will post the relevant lines of code to enable the effect. ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loughran, Stuart" To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 6:47 AM Subject: RE: Hiding icon > On the other hand, is there a way of the client being notified that their > machine is being viewed by way of a pop up message or other? > > Stu > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Maton [mailto:jmaton@viztek.net] > Sent: 05 September 2001 21:52 > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: Hiding icon > > > "Hiding the tray icon" > > This is sort of a "taboo" issue... mainly because there seems to be no > legitimate reason to hide the server's icon. The only reason I can think of > is to facilitate spying on someone, which I believe the good folks at AT&T > Research are not interested in advertising, especially after the rather > nasty article in Time magazine that proclaimed vnc to be nothing more than > "spyware." > > Having said that... vnc is open source. You can download the source code > and make whatever changes you want. But please don't be offended if no one > on the list wishes to help you do it. We'd all hate to see the vnc project > go closed source (or worse, be discontinued) due to any more bad press, and > the "feature" you're after is the heart of it. > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Jonathan Maton, Development Team > Viztek, Inc. > > makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software > (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) > ------------------------------------------------------ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Sarinana" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:11 PM > Subject: Hiding icon > > > > I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to > it > > from a viewer ? > > > > _____ > > > > Joe Sarinana > > Network and CAD System Manager. > > KSN INC. www.ksninc.com > > 209-946-0268 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From illtud.daniel@llgc.org.uk Thu Sep 6 16:15:32 2001 From: illtud.daniel@llgc.org.uk (Illtud Daniel) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 15:15:32 +0000 Subject: Auto Install VNC on Win2K Domain ? References: Message-ID: <3B978462.6483E1CA@llgc.org.uk> Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com wrote: > I am trying to push VNC to my workstations with my current registry > settings. I think there are 2 or 3 possible ways to do this. > 1. Using the "FastPush" script: http://www.synik.f9.co.uk/vnc/ > 2. Using a customizable setup creator: http://www.jrsoftware.org/isinfo.htm > 3. Using Win2K Group Policies to install ? Have you looked at MSIEXEC? It's the windows installer toolkit thingy. We've successfully pushed out software to NT4.0sp6 clients with it. You basically create a MSI file with the registry changes and the files you want to install, and it does the rest. There's a few links about it here: http://www.swynk.com/trent/Articles/msiexeccom.asp http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/msi/hh/msi/app_4w9x.asp http://www.realtimesoft.com/update/default.asp and a link to the instmsiw.exe file (cos I had trouble finding it otherwise): http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdn-files/027/001/456/instmsiw.exe We haven't used it for VNC (we modified fastpush), but if we get round to it, I'll post the .msi file here. -- Illtud Daniel illtud.daniel@llgc.org.uk Uwch Ddadansoddwr Systemau Senior Systems Analyst Llyfrgell Genedlaethol Cymru National Library of Wales Yn siarad drosof fy hun, nid LlGC - Speaking personally, not for NLW --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Manuel.Lorenzo@HCAHealthcare.com Thu Sep 6 16:40:28 2001 From: Manuel.Lorenzo@HCAHealthcare.com (Lorenzo Manuel) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 15:40:28 +0000 Subject: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) Message-ID: We use dhcp also and we can log into the systems by using their computer name. -----Original Message----- From: Ellen Reisinger [mailto:itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2029 03:18 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) Wow! This is great! We currently have no systems in place to manage our 300 odd computers and 5 servers. We have just started getting into VNC. I can't wait to have winVnc installed on all the workstations! With VNC Commander - Is there a limit to the number of computers you can have listed? What limit is there to the number of concurrent connections? Guess this is all in the documentation. Question about winVNC ... we use dhcp, is there a way that i can log into systems without having to know their ip address, for example using the adapter address (as this info is readily available on my asset db)? Ellen -----Original Message----- From: Tony Caduto [SMTP:tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com] Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2001 11:12 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Cc: itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au Subject: Re: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) You can find out about VNC Commander at my website. http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ellen Reisinger" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2029 7:24 PM Subject: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) > I have searched the http://www.uk.research.att.com/cgi-bin/htsearch to try > and find out what vnc commander is. but there were no hits for "vnc > commander". can someone please point me in the right driection to read what > it is (or for that matter more on vnc). > > Cheers, > > Ellen > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From steveb@tshore.com Thu Sep 6 16:50:24 2001 From: steveb@tshore.com (Steve Bostedor) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 15:50:24 +0000 Subject: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <006101c136e2$ac614850$f49575d1@steveb2k> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 VNCScan (http://tgcs.web-it.com) will scan your IP subnet and place them in a list. This is very helpful if you use DHCP or don't feel like manually maintaining a list of 305 computers. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- - -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Simon Hobson Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 9:02 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) Glenn Mabbutt wrote: >The only way to do this that I can think of on Windows without >"knowing their IP address" would be to set up a dynamic DNS >solution (there are a number of providers for this, off-hand see >http://www.dyndns.org and if you want to set up your own "service" I >think I saw something on >http://freshmeat.net). In this method, there's a small client >program that runs on the windows machine you want to control, you >set each machine up with it's own hostname (ie, box1.domain.com, >box2.domain.com, etc), and therefore when each machine "connects" to >the network, the client program broadcasts out the system's current >IP to the configured DNS server - so you can always hit >"box1.domain.com" and always have it go to Bob's machine. If you have a system to host it on, you could also use the DHCP and DNS servers from the Internet Software Consortium (www.isc.org), or others, and do dynamic DNS updates from the DHCP server. This requires no special provisions on the clients to keep an up-to-date DNS. I'm fairly certain that W2000 can do dynamic updates in the DNS server, but I don't know about it's DHCP server (I avoid Windoze as much as possible). Simon - --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html - --------------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBO5eMM8Yb6ASsYP45EQKCygCg+ZrKngiB83p3mFyPdYWstgkqOowAn2// dKeALYAz520c1tAhvIKh5Qn2 =zwJR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From David.Edward.Shapiro@btitele.com Thu Sep 6 16:52:09 2001 From: David.Edward.Shapiro@btitele.com (David Edward Shapiro) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 15:52:09 +0000 Subject: Running java apps off unix box Message-ID: <549AB966B45DD311A58A0000E86CEA8D0CAED71E@postoffice.btitele .com> If I run reflections or hummingbird and start my java app, it works fine, but if I run it through vnc, it gets errors and crashes. Why would there be any difference? David --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Thu Sep 6 17:09:08 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 16:09:08 +0000 Subject: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) References: <01E09A93.DE34FF00.itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au> Message-ID: <001f01c136e5$46bd5b30$84061fac@tr3789> Ellen, There is no limit to the number of connections you can create with VNC Commander, except of course the limits of your PC itself. Again, concurrent running connections is limited by the resources of your PC and the bandwidth available on you LAN/WAN. You can use DNS or WINS names with VNC without problem. Tony Caduto --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From zmargareten@CJH.org Thu Sep 6 17:23:12 2001 From: zmargareten@CJH.org (Zalman Margareten) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 16:23:12 +0000 Subject: VNC Access to pcs behind firewalls Message-ID: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126A8@CFJH> Then you can either do the -connect option (run "winvnc -connect ipaddress/hos)from the server side, or map port 5800 and 5900 at the firewall to the particular workstation. If you have more then one workstation that you are trying to connect to, then you will need to configure each workstation to listen on a different port then the default 5800 and 5900. The easiest way to set this would be through the display setting in the properties. Note the port # will be the display value plus 5800. So for example if you set it to listen with display 10 you will enter at the viewer "vncviewer ipaddress:5810". Read up in the documents for more detail. Good luck -----Original Message----- From: Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de [mailto:Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de] Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 4:09 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: VNC Access to pcs behind firewalls it is about inbound servicing individual PCs in a Lan behind an Axent/Raptor firewall from a remote workstation. What I'm wondering particularly about is as to how I would address individual IP adresses behind the firewall etc. I can, however have - within boundaries of security - the firewall configured according to needs Dietmar -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Zalman Margareten Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 1:31 AM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: VNC Access to pcs behind firewalls Are u asking about incoming connections or outgoing? Also what firewall do u have, application level, Socks ? You might have to go with some type of tunneling. Give us more details. -----Original Message----- From: Salvatore Palmisano [mailto:spalmisano@usashs.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:59 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: VNC Access to pcs behind firewalls I do this all the time, just map your VNC connect port to the IP of the machine you're looking for and viola. Granted, this means you need either access to the firewall device or you'll have to convince an admin to add the mapping for you. --Salvatore -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:43 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: VNC Access to pcs behind firewalls Anyone's got a clue (besides reading the doc and me being a wizard - however competent to set firewall policies) of how to remotely support people sitting behind a firewall (with NAT) translation txs Dietmar --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.277 / Virus Database: 146 - Release Date: 9/5/2001 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From zmargareten@CJH.org Thu Sep 6 17:25:44 2001 From: zmargareten@CJH.org (Zalman Margareten) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 16:25:44 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available Message-ID: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126A9@CFJH> I reinstalled VNC Commander and still have the same problem. FYI we are running win2000 pro. -----Original Message----- From: Tony Caduto [mailto:tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:44 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: New Version of VNC Commander available You must be missing something, In the large icon mode each icon has a caption that describes the connection. Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zalman Margareten" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:35 PM Subject: RE: New Version of VNC Commander available > Great product! thanks > > Am I missing something? In the list of computers I only see icons with no > description of which computers they are. > Oh I just noticed, when in the "view details" mode it will list server name. > I think that name should appear as default with all views since all icons > look the same and there is no way of knowing which computer it is. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Thu Sep 6 18:13:10 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 17:13:10 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available References: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126A9@CFJH> Message-ID: <003b01c136ed$f4fc9eb0$84061fac@tr3789> I don't know what to tell you, I developed in on Win200 Pro. I see captions under my icons, Maybe it has something to do with your fonts? Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zalman Margareten" To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 10:21 AM Subject: RE: New Version of VNC Commander available > I reinstalled VNC Commander and still have the same problem. FYI we are > running win2000 pro. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Caduto [mailto:tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:44 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: New Version of VNC Commander available > > > You must be missing something, > In the large icon mode each icon has a caption that describes the > connection. > > Tony Caduto > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zalman Margareten" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:35 PM > Subject: RE: New Version of VNC Commander available > > > > Great product! thanks > > > > Am I missing something? In the list of computers I only see icons with no > > description of which computers they are. > > Oh I just noticed, when in the "view details" mode it will list server > name. > > I think that name should appear as default with all views since all icons > > look the same and there is no way of knowing which computer it is. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Thu Sep 6 19:17:16 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 18:17:16 +0000 Subject: VNC and SDSL Message-ID: I'v got to cater for two setups involving SDSL with Lucent CellPipes which connect two lans and provide these lans with access general access to the internet. Both Pipes - according to what the two different providers confirm upon questionning - have been setup in there internal routing tables so that ports 5800 and 5900 are NATed to the internal IP adresses were vnc server is running as a service. Everything works properly within the lans. However in setup 1: if I run the Browser/java interface I'm getting the login screen, can type the password, but nothing happens (not even "sorry" except that after a few seconds I receive "javanet.NoRoute to hostException: Operation timed out." which appears not to be the case as I get the login (?!). when running trhough the viewer, after a few seconds I get "Failed to connect to server" setup2: I'm not getting anything at all - which tells me that the set-up is not correct has anybody got a hint to resolve setup 1 - which might then after correction of setup 2 help to make this run as well Mit freundlichen Gr|ssen Dietmar Friesch ------------------------------------------------------------ NEUE DIENSTLEISTUNGEN: Software Process Assessment nach ISO15504/SPICE, ISO/IEC 12207 und BOOTSTRAP durch zertifizierte Pr|fer von ISIS Consulting und Fraunhofer Gesellschaft/IESE ------------------------------------------------------------ __ ___ __ ___ ( ) / __) ( ) / __) || \__ \ || \__ \ (__) (___/ (__) (___/ ISISConsulting Dietmar Friesch Information Systems Information Strategies Altkoenigstrasse 8 D-60323 Frankfurt Phone: +49 (0)69 9720 2256 Fax: +49 (0)69 9720 2257 Cell: +49 (0)172 690 8683 Web: www.isisconsulting.de [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From andrew-vnc-list-digest@andrew82.net Thu Sep 6 19:35:48 2001 From: andrew-vnc-list-digest@andrew82.net (Andrew Stockment) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 18:35:48 +0000 Subject: How to Set AllowLoopback? Message-ID: Howdy, I have been trying to set VNC to AllowLoopback. I read the directions on the website. However, I can't find an AllowLoopback entry anywhere in the Windows registry. Do I have to create a new key? If so, how do I do this? (I run Win98 SE.) Thanks, Andrew :-) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jamesvnclist@tnjinfl.com Thu Sep 6 19:55:03 2001 From: jamesvnclist@tnjinfl.com (James Pifer) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 18:55:03 +0000 Subject: How to Set AllowLoopback? References: Message-ID: <01ba01c136fc$6b466ac0$1d01a8c0@BugsBunny> Here's the key that I have exported from Windows 2000. [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3] "AllowLoopback"=dword:00000001 James ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Stockment" To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 1:30 PM Subject: How to Set AllowLoopback? > Howdy, > > I have been trying to set VNC to AllowLoopback. I read the directions on the > website. However, I can't find an AllowLoopback entry anywhere in the Windows > registry. Do I have to create a new key? If so, how do I do this? (I run Win98 > SE.) > > Thanks, > Andrew :-) > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From stefane.bridy@bigfoot.com Thu Sep 6 20:39:56 2001 From: stefane.bridy@bigfoot.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?St=E9fane_Bridy?=) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 19:39:56 +0000 Subject: Thanx-Re: RE: Send Ctrl+Esc to remote computer : really no one knows how ? In-Reply-To: <0GJ7005ZMMS5SR@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> Message-ID: <3B97DE54.10474.15FBE7@localhost> Tank you John! Yesterday someone told me something like that, but I understood then that "control down" was Ctrl + arrow down ! And I hadn't either understood that "Send control down" meant holding the key control down ! Thanx for the precision, it's working all right. Actually, I've been reading more closely the documentation and finally found it by the time you just before I read your answer. Thanx a lot Stifane Date sent: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 17:07:18 +0600 From: john_pierson@iname.com Subject: RE: Send Ctrl+Esc to remote computer : really no one knows how ? To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Send reply to: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > the pain in the Butt method is to select CTRL Down from the menu, > press Esc and there you have it (don't forget to select CTRL Up from > the menu aftwards to reset it) > > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stifane Bridy [mailto:stefane.bridy@bigfoot.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:00 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Send Ctrl+Esc to remote computer : really no one knows how ? > > > Hello > > I asked yesterday how to send Ctrl+Esc to bring up the start menu on a > remote machine, but none of the suggestions work ... Does anyone > know ? > > Best thanx for your help > > Stifane from Stitzerland > > > > Well, I tried out your hints ... > > > > "shift ctrl+alt+del" works, but it isn't vital as "send > > ctrl+alt+del" exists in menu > > > > "shift ctrl esc" seems to capture on NT 4, as it brings up NT > > Task Manager on the local machine > > > > "shift alt tab" seems to capture also, as it does on the local > > machine quite the same as "alt tab", but in the reverse > > sequence > > of programs > > > > I think I have the most recent versions of Viewer and > > "shower", > > for I downloaded vnc-3.3.3r9_x86_win32.zip today. When I have > > both listening deamons running, in the about box, I have : > > > > viewer version 3.3.3 R3 ( is it normal it isn't R9 ? ) > > and > > WinVNC version 3.3.3 R9 > > > > I hope I don't have to code something on my computer, for I > > know > > how to use Word, Acces, ... Visual Basic, but this ... I > > dunno > > yet. > > > > So, doctor, why does it work on your machine and not on mine ? > > > > Is it my NT ? > > > > I'm looking forward to reading you. > > > > Stifane from Switzerland > > > > P.S. Is this VNC working different on every machine ?! Did you > > read the guy who said "ctrl+down, esc, ctrl+up" works for him > > ? > > It doesn't for me ... > > > > > > --- Eric Gisse escribis: > > > what you do is add shift to any key sequence that windows > > > captures > > > > > > shift control alt del > > > shift alt tab > > > shift control escape > > > > > > control C/V/P doesnt need shift because windows doesnt > > capture > > > it > > > > > > hope this helps > > > > > > At 03:21 PM 9/4/2001 +0200, you wrote: > > > >Hi All, > > > > > > > >when I am connecting to other windows PC that has Start > > > Console that is set to > > > >"Auto Hide", it is very often hard to put the mouse in the > > > right position so > > > >it becomes visible again. Normaly in any sort of windows I > > > use CTRL + ESC if I > > > >want to access the Start Menu and Console quickly, but in > > VNC > > > it brings my > > > >computer's Start Menu. > > > > > > > >Is there a way around this? > > > > > > > >Thanx in advance, > > > > > > > > Zoran > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to > majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---------------------------------- > Download ICQ at http://www.icq.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to > majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com Thu Sep 6 20:50:41 2001 From: Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com (Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 19:50:41 +0000 Subject: Stopping Service on Win95/98, Query Settings ? Message-ID: Another question. Scenario: After having created an .exe package, i tested it on a Win2K machine and it installed with the correct registry settings and uninstalled correctly. I tested it on a Win98 PC and it too installed correctly and started VNC as a service, but the uninstall failed. Win95/98 do not recognize the command "net stop winvnc". I could use the -kill command instead, but i disabled the shutdown and the properties. I am able to manually remove the files and .reg settings etc. Q: The questino still remains, how to stop the service on Win95/98 once its started ? Scenario: When connecting to a users PC, I want the user to be able to click either accept or reject connection. Q: Which settings do i change. QuerySetting,QueryTimeout. Currently QuerySetting is on 2. Thanks Mark Johnson mark_johnson@urscorp.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From louis@webtedium.com Thu Sep 6 20:52:45 2001 From: louis@webtedium.com (Louis Sabet) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 19:52:45 +0000 Subject: xfs with vnc on OpenBSD/RedHat Linux Message-ID: Hi, I'm having problems getting VNC to use an external XFS server. I have two machines: One RedHat machine which is running XFS and VNCSERVER. This uses XFS ok when I modify one of the lines in /usr/bin/vncserver to read $cmd = "Xvnc -fp tcp/localhost:7100 :$displayNumber"; I also have an OpenBSD server which is running VNCSERVER and I want to connect to XFS on the RedHat machine. This is the machine I can't get to work. VNC itself works fine, but I can't connect to the XFS server. The xfs port is open to external clients, as I can telnet to port 7100 on the redhat machine. The line in /usr/local/bin/vncserver on the OpenBSD machine currently reads: $cmd = "Xvnc -fp tcp/redhat:7100 :$displayNumber"; although I have also tried the following to no avail: $cmd = "Xvnc -fp tcp/192.168.1.101:7100 :$displayNumber"; $cmd = "Xvnc -fp tcp/redhat.sabetonline.com:7100 :$displayNumber"; redhat and redhat.sabetonline.com are in /etc/hosts, both are pingable and as I mentioned earlier, the port is clearly open to connections as I can telnet to port 7100. TCP is enabled on the RedHat machine's XFS config file. Can anyone offer any tips? Many thanks, Louis -- Your mouse has moved. Your computer must be restarted for these changes to take effect. R)eboot (C)ancel --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jmaton@viztek.net Thu Sep 6 22:35:27 2001 From: jmaton@viztek.net (Jonathan Maton) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 21:35:27 +0000 Subject: Alerting user to a vnc connection (was "Hiding icon") References: <03754DDCC645D311AA6700805F854E4304A872D5@lotus.ntu.ac.uk> Message-ID: <002501c1370e$42827400$6c886f0c@tupac> Stuart, I have compiled a version that will flash a message indicating a successful vnc connection has been made. The popup dialog lasts for 8 seconds (my lucky number I guess) during which time the vnc connection is halted (remote viewer cannot yet see desktop.) * user on the server has the opportunity to click "REJECT" to deny the connection * user on the server has the opportunity to click "OK" to accept the connection * user on the server has the opportunity to hit the Esc key to accept the connection * if the dialog times out, the connection goes through (I default to allowing the connection because we usually are vnc'ing into an unmanned workstation.) If you are familiar with coding and have access to Visual Studio I will send you the two new files (a .ccp and a header), and the dialog resource if I can figure out how to do that. Otherwise I can zip up the whole source (with my changes) or just send you the binary "WinVNC-alert.exe". ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loughran, Stuart" To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 9:35 AM Subject: RE: Hiding icon > Our clients may not notice if their machine had disappeared never mind an > icon that blinks. > For my purposes, I don't even want to enter into the violation argument and > I want to give my users as much notice as possible that I'm taking over > their machine or watching what they do in a particular > instance. > > Stu > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Maton [mailto:jmaton@viztek.net] > Sent: 06 September 2001 14:05 > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: Hiding icon > > Ah - now this is a good question. Currently the tray icon reverses colors, > but if your resolution is very large (say 1024x768 or higher) the icon is so > small anyway that one is likely not to notice the change. > > For our purposes we were considering making the icon blink between normal > and reversed colors for the entire duration that a viewer is connected. We > considered a pop-up message, but that is a bit too intrusive, especially if > your clients are radiologists trying to read exams. I will probably end up > doing the icon-flash thing, if anyone is interested in the change I will > post the relevant lines of code to enable the effect. > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Jonathan Maton, Development Team > Viztek, Inc. > > makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software > (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Loughran, Stuart" > To: > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 6:47 AM > Subject: RE: Hiding icon > > > > On the other hand, is there a way of the client being notified that their > > machine is being viewed by way of a pop up message or other? > > > > Stu > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jonathan Maton [mailto:jmaton@viztek.net] > > Sent: 05 September 2001 21:52 > > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > Subject: Re: Hiding icon > > > > > > "Hiding the tray icon" > > > > This is sort of a "taboo" issue... mainly because there seems to be no > > legitimate reason to hide the server's icon. The only reason I can think > of > > is to facilitate spying on someone, which I believe the good folks at AT&T > > Research are not interested in advertising, especially after the rather > > nasty article in Time magazine that proclaimed vnc to be nothing more than > > "spyware." > > > > Having said that... vnc is open source. You can download the source code > > and make whatever changes you want. But please don't be offended if no > one > > on the list wishes to help you do it. We'd all hate to see the vnc > project > > go closed source (or worse, be discontinued) due to any more bad press, > and > > the "feature" you're after is the heart of it. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Jonathan Maton, Development Team > > Viztek, Inc. > > > > makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software > > (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Joe Sarinana" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:11 PM > > Subject: Hiding icon > > > > > > > I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to > > it > > > from a viewer ? > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Joe Sarinana > > > Network and CAD System Manager. > > > KSN INC. www.ksninc.com > > > 209-946-0268 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From DavidB@mail.interclean.com Thu Sep 6 22:38:58 2001 From: DavidB@mail.interclean.com (David Brodbeck) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 21:38:58 +0000 Subject: Stopping Service on Win95/98, Query Settings ? Message-ID: There's no such thing as a "service" under Win95/98...vnc is just running as an ordinary program. You could kill it with the task manager. Alternatively, I remember seeing 'ps' and 'kill' commands for Windows 95 somewhere; if you can find those, they should work. -----Original Message----- From: Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com [mailto:Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com] Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 2:45 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Stopping Service on Win95/98, Query Settings ? Another question. Scenario: After having created an .exe package, i tested it on a Win2K machine and it installed with the correct registry settings and uninstalled correctly. I tested it on a Win98 PC and it too installed correctly and started VNC as a service, but the uninstall failed. Win95/98 do not recognize the command "net stop winvnc". I could use the -kill command instead, but i disabled the shutdown and the properties. I am able to manually remove the files and .reg settings etc. Q: The questino still remains, how to stop the service on Win95/98 once its started ? Scenario: When connecting to a users PC, I want the user to be able to click either accept or reject connection. Q: Which settings do i change. QuerySetting,QueryTimeout. Currently QuerySetting is on 2. Thanks Mark Johnson mark_johnson@urscorp.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From zmargareten@CJH.org Thu Sep 6 23:51:38 2001 From: zmargareten@CJH.org (Zalman Margareten) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 22:51:38 +0000 Subject: How to Set AllowLoopback? Message-ID: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126AB@CFJH> Yes, you would need to create it. Just run regedit and browse out to [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3]. In the right side of the screen right click and create a dword key called "AllowLoopback" with a value of 1. Restart the service and it will work. Be aware when you use loopback that the monitor will indeed go into a loop and depending on the resources of your computer it might crash your system because of this. -----Original Message----- From: James Pifer [mailto:jamesvnclist@tnjinfl.com] Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 1:50 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: How to Set AllowLoopback? Here's the key that I have exported from Windows 2000. [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3] "AllowLoopback"=dword:00000001 James ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Stockment" To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 1:30 PM Subject: How to Set AllowLoopback? > Howdy, > > I have been trying to set VNC to AllowLoopback. I read the directions on the > website. However, I can't find an AllowLoopback entry anywhere in the Windows > registry. Do I have to create a new key? If so, how do I do this? (I run Win98 > SE.) > > Thanks, > Andrew :-) > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From rudi.de.vos@skynet.be Fri Sep 7 00:37:50 2001 From: rudi.de.vos@skynet.be (De Vos Rudi) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 23:37:50 +0000 Subject: Beta video driver with download link Message-ID: <3B97FBC7.B4A642F8@skynet.be> Sorry, forgot link in last message.. http://services.simac.be/vnc/single/source/ betavideodriver.zip This is only for people who are developping, you need to recompiler you vncserver. There are still screen-update-bugs in it, but the hookdll and region scanner is disabled. files I changed in the winvnc tree included. Rudi --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ryan@savvynet.com Fri Sep 7 00:59:57 2001 From: ryan@savvynet.com (Ryan Hayle) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 23:59:57 +0000 Subject: [patch] option for vncserver to allow more traditional exitin g of X Message-ID: <61B727E7D104D311A1A0005004180F162D1230@EXCHANGE> Funny, I was -just- trying to figure out what was wrong with VNC that it -wasn't- doing this. Out of curiosity, what could possibly be the point of not exiting when the Xsession terminates like any normal X server? I can't think of any possible reason for this. Anyways, this seems a better solution than mine, which was to put 'vncserver -kill :1' at the end of my .Xsession file, and always start the server on display 1! I hope this functionality gets integrated into the main VNC source tree! Ryan > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard L. Hamilton [mailto:rlhamil@mindwarp.smart.net] > Sent: Tuesday, 04 September, 2001 08:31 > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: [patch] option for vncserver to allow more > traditional exiting > of X > > > The attached patch adds a -wait option to the (Unix) vncserver > script, for those who wish exit from twm, CDE logout, etc. to > cause Xvnc to be terminated (and its client(s), too). The vncserver > script itself also does not exit until then if the -wait > option is used. > > For this to work, the $HOME/.vnc/xstartup script _must_ have > as its last line whatever invokes the window manager (or whatever) > that one will exit eventually, _without_ a terminating > ampersand ("&"). > That is, the command to wait on must not be backgrounded. > > If one doesn't already have a $HOME/.vnc/xstartup file, the changes > will also cause the twm line to have (without -wait) or not > have (with -wait) > the terminating ampersand put in. Of course, it could be left off and > it probably wouldn't matter anyway, since (without -wait) the > command in > vncserver that invokes $HOME/.vnc/xstartup does so in background. > > Since I'm presently using CDE, instead of "twm", my xstartup file ends > with: > > test -x /etc/dt/config/Xsetup || /usr/dt/config/Xsetup > /usr/dt/bin/Xsession > > which seems to be taking care of everything except the definitions of > the copy/paste keys. In particular, logging out of CDE > causes dtsession > to terminate, which in turn causes the Xsession script to > exit, and with > the new -wait option, causes Xvnc to be killed. Without -wait (or > in the original), the first logout attempt would go to the > correct dtsession, > but killing it wouldn't affect the server or the CDE window manager. > Subsequent attempts would (when using the viewer while > sitting at a local > CDE desktop) communicate with another instance of dtsession > altogether; > presumably if it weren't running, the exit attempt would fail with no > ToolTalk client listening for the corresponding message. > > Anyway, anyone else think this -wait option is useful? AFAIK, without > using it, it doesn't break any kind of compatibility. And with it, > one can get the sort of behavior that I (and others I stumbled across > searching Usenet prior to finding this mailing list) seem to want. > > If it is useful, someone more comfortable with perl than I am might > wish to pretty it up a bit; my concern was with getting the desired > effect with the least amount of changes, not with Good Perl Scripting > Practices. > > -- > ftp> get |fortune > 377 I/O error: smart remark generator failed > > Bogonics: the primary language inside the Beltway > > mailto:rlhamil@mindwarp.smart.net http://www.smart.net/~rlhamil > *** vncserver.orig Tue Sep 4 08:38:53 2001 > --- vncserver Tue Sep 4 08:40:34 2001 > *************** > *** 39,51 **** > $vncUserDir = "$ENV{HOME}/.vnc"; > $xauthorityFile = "$ENV{HOME}/.Xauthority"; > > - $defaultXStartup > - = ("#!/bin/sh\n\n". > - "xrdb \$HOME/.Xresources\n". > - "xsetroot -solid grey\n". > - "xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title > \"\$VNCDESKTOP Desktop\" &\n". > - "twm &\n"); > - > chop($host = `uname -n`); > > > --- 39,44 ---- > *************** > *** 52,63 **** > # Check command line options > > > &ParseOptions("-geometry",1,"-depth",1,"-pixelformat",1,"-name > ",1,"-kill",1, > ! "-help",0,"-h",0,"--help",0); > > &Usage() if ($opt{'-help'} || $opt{'-h'} || $opt{'--help'}); > > &Kill() if ($opt{'-kill'}); > > # Uncomment this line if you want default geometry, depth > and pixelformat > # to match the current X display: > # &GetXDisplayDefaults(); > --- 45,70 ---- > # Check command line options > > > &ParseOptions("-geometry",1,"-depth",1,"-pixelformat",1,"-name > ",1,"-kill",1, > ! "-help",0,"-h",0,"--help",0,"-wait",0); > > &Usage() if ($opt{'-help'} || $opt{'-h'} || $opt{'--help'}); > > &Kill() if ($opt{'-kill'}); > > + if ($opt{'-wait'}) { > + $background=''; > + } > + else { > + $background='&'; > + } > + > + $defaultXStartup > + = ("#!/bin/sh\n\n". > + "xrdb \$HOME/.Xresources\n". > + "xsetroot -solid grey\n". > + "xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title > \"\$VNCDESKTOP Desktop\" &\n". > + "twm $background\n"); > + > # Uncomment this line if you want default geometry, depth > and pixelformat > # to match the current X display: > # &GetXDisplayDefaults(); > *************** > *** 191,197 **** > } > $ENV{VNCDESKTOP}= $desktopName; > > ! system("$vncUserDir/xstartup >> " . > "edString($desktopLog) . " 2>&1 &"); > > exit; > > --- 198,207 ---- > } > $ENV{VNCDESKTOP}= $desktopName; > > ! system("$vncUserDir/xstartup >> " . > "edString($desktopLog) . " 2>&1 $background"); > ! if ($opt{'-wait'}) { > ! system("vncserver -kill :$displayNumber"); > ! } > > exit; > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From lindac65@earthlink.net Fri Sep 7 01:25:35 2001 From: lindac65@earthlink.net (Linda Worthington) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 00:25:35 +0000 Subject: VNC from Server to workstations Message-ID: <001c01c1372a$893ec170$676412ac@LINDA500> Is there any way to push VNC 3.3.3 out to all workstations from a server? The workstations are 95/98/W2K. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Fri Sep 7 01:29:19 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 00:29:19 +0000 Subject: Stopping Service on Win95/98, Query Settings ? Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04D9D@QMAIL> answer 1: search your 95/98 registry for the key "runservice" or "RunService". That's where 95/98 looks for any program to run as a service (hence the name ;) With shutdown disabled, however, the only other alternative I can think of is to remove that registry key and reboot. Answer 2: search the winvnc documentation for the "AuthHosts" reg. key. Hint: "-:?" QuerySetting defaults to 2, so that should be fine. -----Original Message----- From: Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com [mailto:Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com] Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 2:45 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Stopping Service on Win95/98, Query Settings ? Another question. Scenario: After having created an .exe package, i tested it on a Win2K machine and it installed with the correct registry settings and uninstalled correctly. I tested it on a Win98 PC and it too installed correctly and started VNC as a service, but the uninstall failed. Win95/98 do not recognize the command "net stop winvnc". I could use the -kill command instead, but i disabled the shutdown and the properties. I am able to manually remove the files and .reg settings etc. Q: The questino still remains, how to stop the service on Win95/98 once its started ? Scenario: When connecting to a users PC, I want the user to be able to click either accept or reject connection. Q: Which settings do i change. QuerySetting,QueryTimeout. Currently QuerySetting is on 2. Thanks Mark Johnson mark_johnson@urscorp.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From darryl@the-ackermans.net Fri Sep 7 01:58:03 2001 From: darryl@the-ackermans.net (Darryl Ackerman) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 00:58:03 +0000 Subject: Changing WinVNC service port References: Message-ID: <001a01c1372f$33a0c790$0b00a8c0@sfc.net> Well I figured it out. 5800 is for the web the first connection that is, the second will connect to 5801 and so on, the same is for the viewer. At least that's what I think they're talking about. Anyway to change the port go onto the registry HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\Default, then change the AutoSelectPort from 1 to 0. Next add a new REG_DWORD value named PortNumber and add the port number you want to use there... be sure to enter it in decimal. when done stop and restart the VNC Server service. I did it and it works for the viewer only, the web will no longer function... this is by design. Good luck. Darryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de" To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 4:31 AM Subject: RE: Changing WinVNC service port > May I add to this the question as to which ports are actually used for what: > (i) 5900 by commander/viewer? > (ii) 5800 over the browser ? > and how can they be changed (see below) > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Darryl Ackerman > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 2:41 AM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Changing WinVNC service port > > > Does anyone know how to change the port that the server listens on? > > Thanks, > Darryl > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au Fri Sep 7 06:11:37 2001 From: itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au (Ellen Reisinger) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 05:11:37 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon: Code to change the icon to blinking when Message-ID: <01E09B44.B0189F80.itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au> I would be very keen to get this code, particularly before I look at implementing vnc across my site. Is it difficult to edit the code? **** I had a look at what my clients would see when i logged on, and the person I was using as a test case, said she was unable to tell easily if i logged on or not (other than me mucking around with her mouse pointer and launching applications:). She was impressed and could see the benefit, but she indicated she didn't feel very comfortable by the process. -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Maton [SMTP:jmaton@viztek.net] Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2001 10:35 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Hiding icon Ah - now this is a good question. Currently the tray icon reverses colors, but if your resolution is very large (say 1024x768 or higher) the icon is so small anyway that one is likely not to notice the change. For our purposes we were considering making the icon blink between normal and reversed colors for the entire duration that a viewer is connected. We considered a pop-up message, but that is a bit too intrusive, especially if your clients are radiologists trying to read exams. I will probably end up doing the icon-flash thing, if anyone is interested in the change I will post the relevant lines of code to enable the effect. ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loughran, Stuart" To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 6:47 AM Subject: RE: Hiding icon > On the other hand, is there a way of the client being notified that their > machine is being viewed by way of a pop up message or other? > > Stu > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Maton [mailto:jmaton@viztek.net] > Sent: 05 September 2001 21:52 > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: Hiding icon > > > "Hiding the tray icon" > > This is sort of a "taboo" issue... mainly because there seems to be no > legitimate reason to hide the server's icon. The only reason I can think of > is to facilitate spying on someone, which I believe the good folks at AT&T > Research are not interested in advertising, especially after the rather > nasty article in Time magazine that proclaimed vnc to be nothing more than > "spyware." > > Having said that... vnc is open source. You can download the source code > and make whatever changes you want. But please don't be offended if no one > on the list wishes to help you do it. We'd all hate to see the vnc project > go closed source (or worse, be discontinued) due to any more bad press, and > the "feature" you're after is the heart of it. > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Jonathan Maton, Development Team > Viztek, Inc. > > makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software > (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) > ------------------------------------------------------ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Sarinana" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:11 PM > Subject: Hiding icon > > > > I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to > it > > from a viewer ? > > > > _____ > > > > Joe Sarinana > > Network and CAD System Manager. > > KSN INC. www.ksninc.com > > 209-946-0268 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au Fri Sep 7 06:14:35 2001 From: itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au (Ellen Reisinger) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 05:14:35 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon Message-ID: <01E09B45.6F9CA360.itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au> LOL I agree stu about the missing equipment, you don't happen to work in a high school :) And I am on the same path, but mine is because i really don't want to know what they're getting up to *grin* in fact even hate thinking of what my users could possible be doing. I just want to get in there fix the problem and get out :) -----Original Message----- From: Loughran, Stuart [SMTP:stuart.loughran@ntu.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2001 11:05 PM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: Hiding icon Our clients may not notice if their machine had disappeared never mind an icon that blinks. For my purposes, I don't even want to enter into the violation argument and I want to give my users as much notice as possible that I'm taking over their machine or watching what they do in a particular instance. Stu -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Maton [mailto:jmaton@viztek.net] Sent: 06 September 2001 14:05 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Hiding icon Ah - now this is a good question. Currently the tray icon reverses colors, but if your resolution is very large (say 1024x768 or higher) the icon is so small anyway that one is likely not to notice the change. For our purposes we were considering making the icon blink between normal and reversed colors for the entire duration that a viewer is connected. We considered a pop-up message, but that is a bit too intrusive, especially if your clients are radiologists trying to read exams. I will probably end up doing the icon-flash thing, if anyone is interested in the change I will post the relevant lines of code to enable the effect. ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loughran, Stuart" To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 6:47 AM Subject: RE: Hiding icon > On the other hand, is there a way of the client being notified that their > machine is being viewed by way of a pop up message or other? > > Stu > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Maton [mailto:jmaton@viztek.net] > Sent: 05 September 2001 21:52 > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: Hiding icon > > > "Hiding the tray icon" > > This is sort of a "taboo" issue... mainly because there seems to be no > legitimate reason to hide the server's icon. The only reason I can think of > is to facilitate spying on someone, which I believe the good folks at AT&T > Research are not interested in advertising, especially after the rather > nasty article in Time magazine that proclaimed vnc to be nothing more than > "spyware." > > Having said that... vnc is open source. You can download the source code > and make whatever changes you want. But please don't be offended if no one > on the list wishes to help you do it. We'd all hate to see the vnc project > go closed source (or worse, be discontinued) due to any more bad press, and > the "feature" you're after is the heart of it. > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Jonathan Maton, Development Team > Viztek, Inc. > > makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software > (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) > ------------------------------------------------------ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Sarinana" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:11 PM > Subject: Hiding icon > > > > I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to > it > > from a viewer ? > > > > _____ > > > > Joe Sarinana > > Network and CAD System Manager. > > KSN INC. www.ksninc.com > > 209-946-0268 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au Fri Sep 7 06:15:02 2001 From: itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au (Ellen Reisinger) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 05:15:02 +0000 Subject: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) Message-ID: <01E09B45.8F76EF60.itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au> WOW! this only gets better. -----Original Message----- From: Lorenzo Manuel [SMTP:Manuel.Lorenzo@HCAHealthcare.com] Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2001 11:58 PM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) We use dhcp also and we can log into the systems by using their computer name. -----Original Message----- From: Ellen Reisinger [mailto:itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2029 03:18 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) Wow! This is great! We currently have no systems in place to manage our 300 odd computers and 5 servers. We have just started getting into VNC. I can't wait to have winVnc installed on all the workstations! With VNC Commander - Is there a limit to the number of computers you can have listed? What limit is there to the number of concurrent connections? Guess this is all in the documentation. Question about winVNC ... we use dhcp, is there a way that i can log into systems without having to know their ip address, for example using the adapter address (as this info is readily available on my asset db)? Ellen -----Original Message----- From: Tony Caduto [SMTP:tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com] Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2001 11:12 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Cc: itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au Subject: Re: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) You can find out about VNC Commander at my website. http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ellen Reisinger" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2029 7:24 PM Subject: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) > I have searched the http://www.uk.research.att.com/cgi-bin/htsearch to try > and find out what vnc commander is. but there were no hits for "vnc > commander". can someone please point me in the right driection to read what > it is (or for that matter more on vnc). > > Cheers, > > Ellen > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Fri Sep 7 06:23:50 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 05:23:50 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander Available References: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126AB@CFJH> Message-ID: <003701c13755$dab509d0$0201a8c0@athlon1000> There is a new updated version of VNC Commander Available. This release adds the following: Set Codec IE Hextile, CopyRect, etc Checkbox to share connection Checkbox for View only option, this disable keyboard and mouse input Checkbox for Request Frames Checkbox for Progressive Drawing A new connection now defaults to Hextile with Request Frames All options are per connection. You can get it here: http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com Enjoy Tony Caduto PS Would anyone be interested in a NT/9x service that you could install with your VNC server that could provide file transfer/System Info capabilities ? It would be integrated in with the VNC Commander Viewer form and could also be activated from the icon. This would be a seperate service that would complement the VNC server. I have the code already created for another project and it is created with INDY http://www.nevrona.com/indy --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From LKTURNE@westvaco.com Fri Sep 7 06:32:09 2001 From: LKTURNE@westvaco.com (Larry K. Turner) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 05:32:09 +0000 Subject: VNC Server Fails Message-ID: I get the following error when I restart my NT4 machine. The VNC Server service failed to start due to the following error: Access is denied. Any advice would be appreciated. Larry --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Fri Sep 7 06:49:08 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 05:49:08 +0000 Subject: VNC Server Fails References: Message-ID: <00b701c13759$39daeb70$0201a8c0@athlon1000> Check the account that the service is running under. Tony Caduto --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au Fri Sep 7 06:49:35 2001 From: itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au (Ellen Reisinger) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 05:49:35 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander Available Message-ID: <01E09B4A.88186460.itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au> It sounds very interesting... retrieving system info would be of interest (and more importantly of use) to me. (i am totally spun out by this product and the vnc community. thanks for all your info to my questions, now i will take my obviously-unworldly soul back to my souless work, and look forward to reading the list tomorrow. Thanks again for the info and help.) Ellen -----Original Message----- From: Tony Caduto [SMTP:tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com] Sent: Friday, 7 September 2001 2:01 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: New Version of VNC Commander Available There is a new updated version of VNC Commander Available. This release adds the following: Set Codec IE Hextile, CopyRect, etc Checkbox to share connection Checkbox for View only option, this disable keyboard and mouse input Checkbox for Request Frames Checkbox for Progressive Drawing A new connection now defaults to Hextile with Request Frames All options are per connection. You can get it here: http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com Enjoy Tony Caduto PS Would anyone be interested in a NT/9x service that you could install with your VNC server that could provide file transfer/System Info capabilities ? It would be integrated in with the VNC Commander Viewer form and could also be activated from the icon. This would be a seperate service that would complement the VNC server. I have the code already created for another project and it is created with INDY http://www.nevrona.com/indy --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From dwyllie@s-un.co.uk Fri Sep 7 09:08:32 2001 From: dwyllie@s-un.co.uk (Daniel Wyllie) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 08:08:32 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available In-Reply-To: <003b01c136ed$f4fc9eb0$84061fac@tr3789> Message-ID: <001001c1376a$b679c820$1fab0180@systemsx> It sounds like there is no "Display Name" set for the connections. I've tried it on my own PC. I was able to create a new connection, and deleted the "Display Name" which had taken the value entered within the "Server Address" input box. Zalman, can you check your connections by opening "Edit Connection" and check if there is anything in the "Display Name" box? Post back to the mailing list how you get on! Regards, Dan -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Tony Caduto Sent: 06 September 2001 17:07 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: New Version of VNC Commander available I don't know what to tell you, I developed in on Win200 Pro. I see captions under my icons, Maybe it has something to do with your fonts? Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zalman Margareten" To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 10:21 AM Subject: RE: New Version of VNC Commander available > I reinstalled VNC Commander and still have the same problem. FYI we are > running win2000 pro. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Caduto [mailto:tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:44 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: New Version of VNC Commander available > > > You must be missing something, > In the large icon mode each icon has a caption that describes the > connection. > > Tony Caduto > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zalman Margareten" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:35 PM > Subject: RE: New Version of VNC Commander available > > > > Great product! thanks > > > > Am I missing something? In the list of computers I only see icons with no > > description of which computers they are. > > Oh I just noticed, when in the "view details" mode it will list server > name. > > I think that name should appear as default with all views since all icons > > look the same and there is no way of knowing which computer it is. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Fri Sep 7 09:12:40 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 08:12:40 +0000 Subject: java.net:NoRoute to HostException:Operation Timed out Message-ID: I'v got to cater for two setups involving SDSL with Lucent CellPipes which connect two lans and provide these lans with access general access to the internet. Both Pipes - according to what the two different providers confirm upon questionning - have been setup in there internal routing tables so that ports 5800 and 5900 are NATed to the internal IP adresses were vnc server is running as a service. Everything works properly within the lans. However in setup 1: if I run the Browser/java interface I'm getting the login screen, can type the password, but nothing happens (not even "sorry" except that after a few seconds I receive "javanet.NoRoute to hostException: Operation timed out." which appears not to be the case as I get the login (?!). when running trhough the viewer, after a few seconds I get "Failed to connect to server" setup2: I'm not getting anything at all - which tells me that the set-up is not correct has anybody got a hint to resolve setup 1 - which might then after correction of setup 2 help to make this run as well Dietmar [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gbendotti@agric.wa.gov.au Fri Sep 7 10:24:52 2001 From: gbendotti@agric.wa.gov.au (Bendotti, Gerard) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 09:24:52 +0000 Subject: Sceen Colours. Message-ID: <2BCD8A1EC385D311AE9B00062950091901F00A54@agspsrv19.agric.wa .gov.au> Someone recently advised a solid blue background for the desktop, I understand the benefits of solid colour, but why blue? Gerard Bendotti --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From BolenderOlivierA. Fri Sep 7 10:24:54 2001 From: BolenderOlivierA. (BolenderOlivierA.) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 09:24:54 +0000 Subject: Wallpaper Message-ID: <01090709302706.02366@boa> Hello, At each time i'm connect to a remote system (windows 9x/NT/2K), the wallpaper is always removed, what is the procedure to keep the remote wallpaper when I etablish a connection with VncViewer (under linux or Windows), what is the Key(s) to put in the register base of windows. Boa. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From AER@topdanmark.dk Fri Sep 7 10:33:47 2001 From: AER@topdanmark.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q? Rasmus_Emil_M=F8ller ?=) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 09:33:47 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon: Code to change the icon to blinking when Message-ID: How about changing the mouse pointer on the VNC server, when a session is active? Changing the mouse pointer is as easy as the wallpaper juggling etc. that is now implemented as standard. I tried with a BIG FAT RED mouse pointer; it's something that the end user is bound to notice (perhaps one could even make it an "VNC-animated" mouse pointer). And, contrary to the blinking tray icon, it does not create additional RFB traffic, and it is somewhat unobtrusive. Another possibility is to change temporarily the default colors for the window title bars, or to make the windows borders change size or color. ... just trying to be imaginative here ... Cordiali saluti Rasmus E. Mxller Topdanmark +-------------------------------------+ | Please disregard any information | | that is incorrect, illegitimate, | | inaccurate or simply misspelled. | | | | We take no responsibility for the | | inept postings of our employees. ;>)| +-------------------------------------+ - ----- Original Message ----- Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2029 13:58:53 +0930 From: Ellen Reisinger Subject: RE: Hiding icon LOL I agree stu about the missing equipment, you don't happen to work in a high school :) And I am on the same path, but mine is because i really don't want to know what they're getting up to *grin* in fact even hate thinking of what my users could possible be doing. I just want to get in there fix the problem and get out :) - -----Original Message----- From: Loughran, Stuart [SMTP:stuart.loughran@ntu.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2001 11:05 PM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: Hiding icon Our clients may not notice if their machine had disappeared never mind an icon that blinks. For my purposes, I don't even want to enter into the violation argument and I want to give my users as much notice as possible that I'm taking over their machine or watching what they do in a particular instance. Stu - -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Maton [mailto:jmaton@viztek.net] Sent: 06 September 2001 14:05 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Hiding icon Ah - now this is a good question. Currently the tray icon reverses colors, but if your resolution is very large (say 1024x768 or higher) the icon is so small anyway that one is likely not to notice the change. For our purposes we were considering making the icon blink between normal and reversed colors for the entire duration that a viewer is connected. We considered a pop-up message, but that is a bit too intrusive, especially if your clients are radiologists trying to read exams. I will probably end up doing the icon-flash thing, if anyone is interested in the change I will post the relevant lines of code to enable the effect. - ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) - ------------------------------------------------------ - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loughran, Stuart" To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 6:47 AM Subject: RE: Hiding icon > On the other hand, is there a way of the client being notified that their > machine is being viewed by way of a pop up message or other? > > Stu > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Maton [mailto:jmaton@viztek.net] > Sent: 05 September 2001 21:52 > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: Hiding icon > > > "Hiding the tray icon" > > This is sort of a "taboo" issue... mainly because there seems to be no > legitimate reason to hide the server's icon. The only reason I can think of > is to facilitate spying on someone, which I believe the good folks at AT&T > Research are not interested in advertising, especially after the rather > nasty article in Time magazine that proclaimed vnc to be nothing more than > "spyware." > > Having said that... vnc is open source. You can download the source code > and make whatever changes you want. But please don't be offended if no one > on the list wishes to help you do it. We'd all hate to see the vnc project > go closed source (or worse, be discontinued) due to any more bad press, and > the "feature" you're after is the heart of it. > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Jonathan Maton, Development Team > Viztek, Inc. > > makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software > (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) > ------------------------------------------------------ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Sarinana" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:11 PM > Subject: Hiding icon > > > > I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to > it > > from a viewer ? > > > > _____ > > > > Joe Sarinana > > Network and CAD System Manager. > > KSN INC. www.ksninc.com > > 209-946-0268 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From dwyllie@s-un.co.uk Fri Sep 7 10:53:19 2001 From: dwyllie@s-un.co.uk (Daniel Wyllie) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 09:53:19 +0000 Subject: Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <01090709302706.02366@boa> Message-ID: <001101c13779$b2607180$1fab0180@systemsx> Boa, Look to see if you have the "RemoveWallpaper" DWORD within the registry key shown below. it sounds like you have this entry set with a value of "1". So if you want to keep the wallpaper, then set the value to "0" ( without the quotes of course! ). [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3\Default] "RemoveWallpaper"=dword:00000000 The other solution would be to just right click on the "RemoveWallpaper" entry, and just delete it! Regards, Dan -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Bolender Olivier A. Sent: 07 September 2001 08:30 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Wallpaper Hello, At each time i'm connect to a remote system (windows 9x/NT/2K), the wallpaper is always removed, what is the procedure to keep the remote wallpaper when I etablish a connection with VncViewer (under linux or Windows), what is the Key(s) to put in the register base of windows. Boa. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From richard.harris@nottscc.gov.uk Fri Sep 7 11:07:40 2001 From: richard.harris@nottscc.gov.uk (Richard Harris) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 10:07:40 +0000 Subject: Auto Install VNC on Win2K Domain ? Message-ID: <3B989B08.3446.5395D2C@localhost> Hi, > I am trying to push VNC to my workstations with my current registry > settings. I think there are 2 or 3 possible ways to do this. The main part of installing on Windows is what rigths the user has. If your target machines are Windows 9x / ME, then security isn't a problem. You can use a custom built setup.exe (again on www.darkage.co.uk/vnc/) or make your own batch file to do it. Either will work. If you clients are NT or 2000, then it's a little more complicated. This is as most users don't have the security permissions to create services or mess about with the registry. If you're trying to roll VNC out on them, then go with my fastpush script. I've heard from a few people that MSI works well with W2k. However, I've not heard good about setting the VNC password via a policy. I'd be tempted to keep it simple at go with either of the top two options. On top of all that, if VNC is already installed, and you just want to alter the password, then you *might* be able to stick an updated reg file in the login script and it should work (if the users are able to access the registry. I don't think regedit /s newpass.reg will work on NT though). HTH Rich --------------------------------- Richard Harris Environment IT Tel: 0115 977 4509 --------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From dwyllie@s-un.co.uk Fri Sep 7 12:19:48 2001 From: dwyllie@s-un.co.uk (Daniel Wyllie) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 11:19:48 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander Available In-Reply-To: <003701c13755$dab509d0$0201a8c0@athlon1000> Message-ID: <000001c1377f$fd3fb6b0$1fab0180@systemsx> Tony, When viewing all the connection details. Your new version of VNC Commander shows an option to "Show connection Timer". This appears to be working the wrong way around(?). When i edit a connection and choose to "Hide Connection Timer", the detail listing shows the value of "true" under "Show connection Timer". Should the "Show connection Timer" column not say "Hide" instead of "Show"? :) Sorry to be a pain, Regards, Dan -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Tony Caduto Sent: 07 September 2001 05:31 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: New Version of VNC Commander Available There is a new updated version of VNC Commander Available. This release adds the following: Set Codec IE Hextile, CopyRect, etc Checkbox to share connection Checkbox for View only option, this disable keyboard and mouse input Checkbox for Request Frames Checkbox for Progressive Drawing A new connection now defaults to Hextile with Request Frames All options are per connection. You can get it here: http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com Enjoy Tony Caduto PS Would anyone be interested in a NT/9x service that you could install with your VNC server that could provide file transfer/System Info capabilities ? It would be integrated in with the VNC Commander Viewer form and could also be activated from the icon. This would be a seperate service that would complement the VNC server. I have the code already created for another project and it is created with INDY http://www.nevrona.com/indy --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From rlhamil@mindwarp.smart.net Fri Sep 7 13:03:08 2001 From: rlhamil@mindwarp.smart.net (Richard L. Hamilton) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 12:03:08 +0000 Subject: [patch] option for vncserver to allow more traditional exitin g of X Message-ID: <200109071057.f87Av3N00033@mindwarp.smart.net> >From: Ryan Hayle >To: "'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com'" >Subject: RE: [patch] option for vncserver to allow more traditional exitin g of X >Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 18:03:51 -0500 >X-Loop: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > >Funny, I was -just- trying to figure out what was wrong with VNC that it >-wasn't- doing this. Out of curiosity, what could possibly be the point of >not exiting when the Xsession terminates like any normal X server? I can't >think of any possible reason for this. >Anyways, this seems a better solution than mine, which was to put 'vncserver >-kill :1' at the end of my .Xsession file, and always start the server on >display 1! I hope this functionality gets integrated into the main VNC >source tree! > >Ryan It may reflect typical use. An X server serves one or more people in one place, while a VNC server typically serves just one person that might be moving around. But in the case of Xvnc, it might be used either way. I was looking at it as a way to run old stupid apps that only worked with an 8-bit visual as the default, when I would prefer to run with a 24-bit visual as the default. That meant that I was using vncviewer and vncserver in the same place, and I wanted to be able to exit the VNC "desktop" in a familiar manner rather than by manually running a separate command. So what I did (at least in what it offers, if perhaps not in the details of how I did it) makes sense to me, in that it caters to either sort of use of Xvnc. -- ftp> get |fortune 377 I/O error: smart remark generator failed Bogonics: the primary language inside the Beltway mailto:rlhamil@mindwarp.smart.net http://www.smart.net/~rlhamil --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From stefane_bridy@yahoo.com Fri Sep 7 13:21:24 2001 From: stefane_bridy@yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Stefane=20Bridy?=) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 12:21:24 +0000 Subject: "IdleTimeout" not working on all computers ... why ? Message-ID: <20010907112024.92038.qmail@web11602.mail.yahoo.com> On the intra-network, often people forget about the connection they made, and with the number, it slows down a lot the whole network. Therefore I wanted to set IdleTimeout to 10 minutes in the register. It tried on my NT4 laptop (with the .reg file below) and it works great!! BUT, when I installed the .reg file on other NT4 desktop computers, ... it didn't work. It never terminated the connection! I checked in the register, but the new parameters where there. And when I clicked on the task bar green tray icon, I could see that "Properties" was in grey (disabled), hence obeing the "AllowProperties" option. The machines are service pack 5 with WinVNC 3.3.3 R9, so it should be ok. The only problem I can think of is that on some, VNC is installed as a service ... but shouldn't it work anyway ? Anyone an idea ? Thanx a lot Stifane ============= REGEDIT4 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ORL\WinVNC3] "IdleTimeout"=dword:00000258 "Password"=hex: ... well, hidden :-) [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\Default] "IdleTimeout"=dword:00000258 "Password"=hex: ... well, hidden :-) "AllowProperties"=dword:00000000 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Construye tu pagina personal en Yahoo! GeoCities. !Es facil, rapido y gratis! http://geocities.yahoo.com.mx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith.adeney@printsoft.de Fri Sep 7 13:22:27 2001 From: keith.adeney@printsoft.de (Keith T. Adeney) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 12:22:27 +0000 Subject: hook video driver Message-ID: <009CBF891D1ED511ABEF00A0CC6A63D603AA90@URMEL> Hello everybody, I'm putting this information in the newsgroup, because people keep mailing me directly about Win95/Win98 video driver hooks. There is a method for hooking the video driver under Win95/Win98 called SetDDIHook. SetDDIHook does exist, but Microsoft let it die most probably because it uses 32<-> 16 bit thunking. It is available in Win95 if you install the "MS Accessibility Runtime", it is included out of the box with Win98/98SE. Microsoft documentation (if you can get it) on SetDDIHook is in the "MS Accessibility SDK" (my copy dates Sept 99). I've talked to H. Lee [cyclent@bomun.kaist.ac.kr] quite a bit now, he took my DDIWatch code and developed it further, but says "Although it's working, it makes the system a bit unstable, so still looking at it time to time. (I think win98 itself does not manage resource well. it's the cause of the problem I think)." The following have at least also had a look at my DDIWatch code: Daniel Plakosh [dplakosh@sei.cmu.edu], reiter@nomadics.com, stefanie.ballestra@fnac.net, and Thong Nguyen. If you ask H. Lee nicely he might let you have a copy of his code. He wanted to get it far enough to put it into VNC, so he probably would be grateful for any help or advice. Our company has moved to Win2000 now and is introducing UNIX as a Micro$oft alternative, so Win98/98SE development isn't really on the radar anymore. But VNC works on all the platforms anyway. Thanks for such a great piece of software! Keith > - -----Original Message----- > From: Gianluca Bruni [mailto:gianluca@proximaautomation.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 7:20 PM > To: Rudi De Vos > Subject: R: hook video driver > > > Hi, > thaks for reply. > I apologize I can't help you. I'm a Windows programmer but I have not > tools to develop video drivers (I guess you use something like SDDK or > similar). > Your approach works in WinNT/Win2K. > Do you know how to hook video driver under Win95/Win98? Yes SetDDIHook > > Another strategy could be, as I read in WinVNC FAQ, to hook GDI32.DLL. > What do you think? > Bye > Gianluca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Shaun.Brachmann@kohler.com Fri Sep 7 14:43:28 2001 From: Shaun.Brachmann@kohler.com (Brachmann Shaun) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 13:43:28 +0000 Subject: The icon Message-ID: We have all seen way too many questions regarding the winvnc tray icon. Here is what I use: This utility lets you modify the winvnc.exe to remove the tray icon or any other menus you want to mess with. http://rpi.net.au/~ajohnson/resourcehacker Use this for good, not evil. I strongly suggest you get your boss to sign something before using VNC without a tray icon at your place of work. If not, you may end up with a new job. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From m.lerner@sympatico.ca Fri Sep 7 14:48:01 2001 From: m.lerner@sympatico.ca (Michael Lerner) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 13:48:01 +0000 Subject: Sceen Colours. In-Reply-To: <2BCD8A1EC385D311AE9B00062950091901F00A54@agspsrv19.agric.w a .gov.au> Message-ID: <002901c1379a$d62bf1e0$0100a8c0@server> It can be any solid background. As long as the client can display it. -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On Behalf Of Bendotti, Gerard Sent: September 7, 2001 4:39 AM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: Sceen Colours. Someone recently advised a solid blue background for the desktop, I understand the benefits of solid colour, but why blue? Gerard Bendotti --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Fri Sep 7 15:04:25 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 14:04:25 +0000 Subject: Sceen Colours. Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04D9E@QMAIL> I don't think it matters. Windows 2000, for example, has a blue background by default. It's the solid colour that's the important part - the point being it's less complicated to draw and thus makes the connection appear "faster". Although, with the jpeg compression built-in to TightVNC, some of the "speed" issues may be mitigated... -----Original Message----- From: Bendotti, Gerard [mailto:gbendotti@agric.wa.gov.au] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 4:39 AM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: Sceen Colours. Someone recently advised a solid blue background for the desktop, I understand the benefits of solid colour, but why blue? Gerard Bendotti --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From rlhamil@mindwarp.smart.net Fri Sep 7 15:13:44 2001 From: rlhamil@mindwarp.smart.net (Richard L. Hamilton) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 14:13:44 +0000 Subject: Running java apps off unix box Message-ID: <200109071310.f87DANN03364@mindwarp.smart.net> >From: David Edward Shapiro >To: "'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com'" >Subject: Running java apps off unix box >Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 10:36:37 -0400 >X-Loop: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > >If I run reflections or hummingbird and start my java app, it works fine, >but if I run it through vnc, it gets errors and crashes. Why would there be >any difference? You need to have an application you're able and permitted to provide a copy of, and instructions for re-creating the problem with it, so that others can re-create it to get any further. You also need to identify the version of Java in question, and probably the version of the VNC server as well. The only app where I've seen the problem so far (HotJava) is not supported under JDKs > 1.1, so I can't determine whether more recent JDK/JRE would have the problem or not. My WAG would be that it's a boundary condition or timing issue (number of requests outstanding or something like that) that only arises with certain AWT calls, and that it's a Java bug rather than a VNC bug (since it's Java that dies rather than the VNC server). But that's a very iffy (and not particularly useful) guess based on entirely too little information. -- ftp> get |fortune 377 I/O error: smart remark generator failed Bogonics: the primary language inside the Beltway mailto:rlhamil@mindwarp.smart.net http://www.smart.net/~rlhamil --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gonzy22@yahoo.com Fri Sep 7 16:12:36 2001 From: gonzy22@yahoo.com (Gonzalo Palma) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 15:12:36 +0000 Subject: VNC Connector References: <200109071310.f87DANN03364@mindwarp.smart.net> Message-ID: <008601c137a6$3d7b8ad0$6101230a@sciarg> I am having this error message... "0.0.1 Is not a valid date and time" when I connect to a remote server. Which date and tome settings should I have? Thank you _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From MMolloy@resortquest.com Fri Sep 7 16:15:06 2001 From: MMolloy@resortquest.com (Michael Molloy) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 15:15:06 +0000 Subject: Selection problem on server desktop with WinVNC Message-ID: <01090709084503.01982@linux> I've got WinVNC 3.3.3 R9 running on Windows 2000. To access it, I've tried both the Linux client (3.3.3 r2 linux 2.0) and a java enabled linux browser. The problem occurs in both the viewer & browser, so it looks to be a server problem. If I select an icon on the bottom of the desktop, it is selected along with every icon above it on the desktop. The only way to select a single icon is to select the icon at the top of the desktop (like the "My Computer" icon). I've had this problem before, rebooted the Win2K machine, and the problem went away. However, it is not going away this time after rebooting. Seached the archives, but I couldn't find anything. Any help is appreciated. Thanks --Michael -- ========================================================== Michael Molloy ResortQuest International Java Developer www.ResortQuest.com 901.762.4076 mmolloy@resortquest.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Fri Sep 7 16:16:38 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 15:16:38 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available References: <001001c1376a$b679c820$1fab0180@systemsx> Message-ID: <000e01c137a7$4cbe2380$84061fac@tr3789> Yes, That could very well be, if you delete the display name, then you will get a icon with no caption. I just don't understant why someone would delete the display name? I guess I need to idiot proof it some more, I will add code that will check if the display name is blank and then put the server address in for the caption when the icon is rendered at form create. Look for it in the next version Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Wyllie" To: Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 2:00 AM Subject: RE: New Version of VNC Commander available > It sounds like there is no "Display Name" set for the connections. > > I've tried it on my own PC. I was able to create a new connection, > and deleted the "Display Name" which had taken the value entered > within the "Server Address" input box. > > Zalman, can you check your connections by opening "Edit Connection" > and check if there is anything in the "Display Name" box? > > Post back to the mailing list how you get on! > > Regards, > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Tony Caduto > Sent: 06 September 2001 17:07 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: New Version of VNC Commander available > > > I don't know what to tell you, I developed in on Win200 Pro. > I see captions under my icons, Maybe it has something to do with your fonts? > > Tony Caduto > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zalman Margareten" > To: > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 10:21 AM > Subject: RE: New Version of VNC Commander available > > > > I reinstalled VNC Commander and still have the same problem. FYI we are > > running win2000 pro. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tony Caduto [mailto:tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:44 PM > > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > Subject: Re: New Version of VNC Commander available > > > > > > You must be missing something, > > In the large icon mode each icon has a caption that describes the > > connection. > > > > Tony Caduto > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Zalman Margareten" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:35 PM > > Subject: RE: New Version of VNC Commander available > > > > > > > Great product! thanks > > > > > > Am I missing something? In the list of computers I only see icons with > no > > > description of which computers they are. > > > Oh I just noticed, when in the "view details" mode it will list server > > name. > > > I think that name should appear as default with all views since all > icons > > > look the same and there is no way of knowing which computer it is. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Fri Sep 7 16:42:35 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 15:42:35 +0000 Subject: "javanet.NoRoute to hostException: Operation timed out." Message-ID: I've still got the problem of "javanet.NoRoute to hostException: Operation timed out." after trying to connect from anywhere to a SDSL NAT routed vnc server (5800/5900). The Serverapplet with browser appears put nothing happens after trying to log in. after a few seconds the above message. ising the viewer I get a black screen and after a few seconds I get "failed to connect to server/host" Prior to blaming the provider for not setting up 5900 - does anybody know another reason for this to occur? [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com Fri Sep 7 16:46:40 2001 From: Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com (Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 15:46:40 +0000 Subject: Stopping Service on Win95/98, Query Settings ? Message-ID: Thanks for the replies. After creating an .exe package for Win95/98 and NT/2K, I found that everything would install ok, but would not uninstall on 95/98 only on NT/2K. I found several things out: To uninstall the app on 95/98: winvnc.exe -kill, then winvnc.exe -remove To uninstall the app on NT/2K: net stop winvnc, then winvnc.exe -remove So on the uninstall, it checks for 95/98 and runs the -kill and on NT/2K it runs net stop. Thanks again. Mark ------------------------------------ Original Post: Q: The questino still remains, how to stop the service on Win95/98 once its started ? When connecting to a users PC, I want the user to be able to click either accept or reject connection. Mark Johnson --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From louis@webtedium.com Fri Sep 7 17:02:00 2001 From: louis@webtedium.com (Louis Sabet) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 16:02:00 +0000 Subject: setting fontpath Message-ID: Hi, I'm trying to get VNC to use some Windows Type1 fonts on an OpenBSD box. The Type1 fonts work ok in regular X and also on an XFS server (both RedHat), but when I put them on the OpenBSD box, and enter them in the vncserver script (yes, I am using the correct syntax), the VNC session fails. Is this because: a:) OpenBSD and Linux use differing methods of working out the fonts in a directory b;) I need to run some special command to categorise the fonts in OpenBSD (the fonts.dir and fonts.scale files are already there) c:) You just can't use type1 fonts directly in VNC help! L -- Your mouse has moved. Your computer must be restarted for these changes to take effect. R)eboot (C)ancel --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com Fri Sep 7 17:02:02 2001 From: Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com (Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 16:02:02 +0000 Subject: VNC Commander additional options ? Message-ID: Tony, When connecting via VNC Commander to a users PC, a box pops up with "accept connection from (IP address)". Is it possible to have the box show the name the connection is coming from ? Would this setting be something in Commander or WInVNC ? Thanks, Mark --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Fri Sep 7 17:35:25 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 16:35:25 +0000 Subject: helper Message-ID: Could someone tell me what the "helper" really does - I can see no difference using or not using it - except the fact if you don't use it there's no icon [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Fri Sep 7 17:45:03 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 16:45:03 +0000 Subject: VNC Commander additional options ? References: Message-ID: <003001c137b3$6ec73ff0$84061fac@tr3789> I think that is a setting with the server. I know of no setting on the viewer that would do that. Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:57 AM Subject: VNC Commander additional options ? > Tony, > > When connecting via VNC Commander to a users PC, a box pops up with "accept > connection from (IP address)". > > Is it possible to have the box show the name the connection is coming from > ? Would this setting be something in Commander or WInVNC ? > > Thanks, > Mark > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From LKTURNE@westvaco.com Fri Sep 7 18:10:04 2001 From: LKTURNE@westvaco.com (Larry K. Turner) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 17:10:04 +0000 Subject: VNC Server Fails Message-ID: Startup Type: Automatic Log On As: System Account Allow Service to interact with Desktop - selected LT >>> tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com 09/07/01 12:54AM >>> Check the account that the service is running under. Tony Caduto --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Fri Sep 7 18:26:28 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 17:26:28 +0000 Subject: VNC Commander additional options ? Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04DA0@QMAIL> This is a Winvnc server option (enabled by the "AuthHosts" reg key). To my knowledge, I don't think the message itself is configurable at present. -----Original Message----- From: Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com [mailto:Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:58 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: VNC Commander additional options ? Tony, When connecting via VNC Commander to a users PC, a box pops up with "accept connection from (IP address)". Is it possible to have the box show the name the connection is coming from ? Would this setting be something in Commander or WInVNC ? Thanks, Mark --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From zmargareten@CJH.org Fri Sep 7 18:48:46 2001 From: zmargareten@CJH.org (Zalman Margareten) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 17:48:46 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available Message-ID: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126AF@CFJH> Thanks Dan.. Tony! "I just don't understand why someone would delete the display name?" It actually also happens if you don't fill in a display name to begin with by just skipping the field (w/o getting the curser in) I upgraded to the newest version and its great! One suggestion though, when closing a connection, it might be better to also close the open box. Also, is there any help docs? I get an access violations when trying the screenshot (maybe its still in the development stages, since you don't have shortcut to it either). can you also explain how the "Auto launch" works. I get a message about "index lists" and it grays out. -----Original Message----- From: Tony Caduto [mailto:tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:14 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: New Version of VNC Commander available Yes, That could very well be, if you delete the display name, then you will get a icon with no caption. I just don't understant why someone would delete the display name? I guess I need to idiot proof it some more, I will add code that will check if the display name is blank and then put the server address in for the caption when the icon is rendered at form create. Look for it in the next version Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Wyllie" To: Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 2:00 AM Subject: RE: New Version of VNC Commander available > It sounds like there is no "Display Name" set for the connections. > > I've tried it on my own PC. I was able to create a new connection, > and deleted the "Display Name" which had taken the value entered > within the "Server Address" input box. > > Zalman, can you check your connections by opening "Edit Connection" > and check if there is anything in the "Display Name" box? > > Post back to the mailing list how you get on! > > Regards, > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Tony Caduto > Sent: 06 September 2001 17:07 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: New Version of VNC Commander available > > > I don't know what to tell you, I developed in on Win200 Pro. > I see captions under my icons, Maybe it has something to do with your fonts? > > Tony Caduto > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zalman Margareten" > To: > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 10:21 AM > Subject: RE: New Version of VNC Commander available > > > > I reinstalled VNC Commander and still have the same problem. FYI we are > > running win2000 pro. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tony Caduto [mailto:tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:44 PM > > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > Subject: Re: New Version of VNC Commander available > > > > > > You must be missing something, > > In the large icon mode each icon has a caption that describes the > > connection. > > > > Tony Caduto > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Zalman Margareten" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:35 PM > > Subject: RE: New Version of VNC Commander available > > > > > > > Great product! thanks > > > > > > Am I missing something? In the list of computers I only see icons with > no > > > description of which computers they are. > > > Oh I just noticed, when in the "view details" mode it will list server > > name. > > > I think that name should appear as default with all views since all > icons > > > look the same and there is no way of knowing which computer it is. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Eric@InvisibleRobot.com Fri Sep 7 19:16:09 2001 From: Eric@InvisibleRobot.com (Eric Carlson) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 18:16:09 +0000 Subject: ATI and TightVNC conflict (was: TightVNC crash on 6 of 16 NT servers) Message-ID: <3B98FFE6.57FF1CC6@InvisibleRobot.com> I've narrowed down the TightVNC crashed to an ATI video conflict. If I run certain ATI video cards at 800x600, 16-bit color on NT 4.0/SP6a, even with the latest ATI drivers, WinVNC usually gives a Dr. Watson error upon VNC client login. If I switch to 800x600, 256 color, it seems to work fine. The card is the "ATI Rage128". The problem happens with various drivers, including the 4.3.192 driver from the ATI web site. I had to switch all these to 256 color. I also had the problem on the "ATI 3D Rage IIC", but the problem seems to have gone away with the 4.00.1381.3247 driver from the ATI web site. The problem does exist in the 4.00.1381.3254 driver from Compaq, and with the 5.2.040 ATI driver. - Eric, http://www.InvisibleRobot.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jtb@mediaone.net Fri Sep 7 19:30:29 2001 From: jtb@mediaone.net (Jim Brown) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 18:30:29 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander Available In-Reply-To: <003701c13755$dab509d0$0201a8c0@athlon1000> References: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126AB@CFJH> <003701c13755$dab509d0$0201a8c0@athlon1000> Message-ID: <188186255471.20010907132042@mediaone.net> Hi Tony, I noted a likely bug.... but not really in Commander... but more in Tummy's dll with the way it threads itself on the clipboard queue..... Not sure if you're handling this at all... but figured I'd mention it in case it's effecting others though I've yet to spend enough time debugging everything to send info to Thong... The issue showed up as evident to me as I use Clipmate ; www.thornsoft.com which pops up when the clipboard chain has been incorrectly broken.... thus this clip capturing utility get bumped from the chain.... it seems that VNCX just takes over the clipboard chain rather than threading it self on the top of the chain... (for local<>server clipboard functionality).... The issue is when multiple clipboard aware utils are threading and re-threading VNCX bumps them off and if they then rethread VNCX seems to crash.. Best Regards, Jim ------------- Original message text ------------------ Date: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:30:41 AM -0500 From: Tony Caduto To: CC: Subject: New Version of VNC Commander Available Files: There is a new updated version of VNC Commander Available. This release adds the following: Set Codec IE Hextile, CopyRect, etc Checkbox to share connection Checkbox for View only option, this disable keyboard and mouse input Checkbox for Request Frames Checkbox for Progressive Drawing A new connection now defaults to Hextile with Request Frames All options are per connection. You can get it here: http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com Enjoy Tony Caduto PS Would anyone be interested in a NT/9x service that you could install with your VNC server that could provide file transfer/System Info capabilities ? It would be integrated in with the VNC Commander Viewer form and could also be activated from the icon. This would be a seperate service that would complement the VNC server. I have the code already created for another project and it is created with INDY http://www.nevrona.com/indy --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Fri Sep 7 19:46:11 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 18:46:11 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available References: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126AF@CFJH> Message-ID: <004501c137c4$66d46dc0$84061fac@tr3789> Hi Zalman, In the next release I will make the Display name required, then this won't happen anymore. the screen shot thingy does not work yet, It apparently works with Visual Basic, but I don't use that junk, so I will have to wait until the author gets it working with Delphi. The autolaunch only works with a single connection right now. Sorry, but there is no help, since I am giving it away. If I write docs for it, I will have to charge for them :-) I am thinking about creating a VNC commander PRO that would include the Docs, File Transfer and a port scanner for a very inexpensive amount, but we will have to see how much time I have. Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zalman Margareten" To: Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:41 AM Subject: RE: New Version of VNC Commander available > Thanks Dan.. > > > Tony! > > "I just don't understand why someone would delete the display name?" > > It actually also happens if you don't fill in a display name to begin with > by just skipping the field (w/o getting the curser in) > > I upgraded to the newest version and its great! One suggestion though, when > closing a connection, it might be better to also close the open box. > > Also, is there any help docs? I get an access violations when trying the > screenshot (maybe its still in the development stages, since you don't have > shortcut to it either). > > can you also explain how the "Auto launch" works. I get a message about > "index lists" and it grays out. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Caduto [mailto:tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com] > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:14 AM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: New Version of VNC Commander available > > > Yes, That could very well be, if you delete the display name, then you will > get a icon with no caption. > I just don't understant why someone would delete the display name? > I guess I need to idiot proof it some more, I will add code that will check > if the display name is blank and then put the server address in for the > caption when the icon is rendered at form create. > > Look for it in the next version > > Tony Caduto > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel Wyllie" > To: > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 2:00 AM > Subject: RE: New Version of VNC Commander available > > > > It sounds like there is no "Display Name" set for the connections. > > > > I've tried it on my own PC. I was able to create a new connection, > > and deleted the "Display Name" which had taken the value entered > > within the "Server Address" input box. > > > > Zalman, can you check your connections by opening "Edit Connection" > > and check if there is anything in the "Display Name" box? > > > > Post back to the mailing list how you get on! > > > > Regards, > > > > Dan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Tony Caduto > > Sent: 06 September 2001 17:07 PM > > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > Subject: Re: New Version of VNC Commander available > > > > > > I don't know what to tell you, I developed in on Win200 Pro. > > I see captions under my icons, Maybe it has something to do with your > fonts? > > > > Tony Caduto > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Zalman Margareten" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 10:21 AM > > Subject: RE: New Version of VNC Commander available > > > > > > > I reinstalled VNC Commander and still have the same problem. FYI we are > > > running win2000 pro. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Tony Caduto [mailto:tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com] > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:44 PM > > > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > > Subject: Re: New Version of VNC Commander available > > > > > > > > > You must be missing something, > > > In the large icon mode each icon has a caption that describes the > > > connection. > > > > > > Tony Caduto > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Zalman Margareten" > > > To: > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:35 PM > > > Subject: RE: New Version of VNC Commander available > > > > > > > > > > Great product! thanks > > > > > > > > Am I missing something? In the list of computers I only see icons with > > no > > > > description of which computers they are. > > > > Oh I just noticed, when in the "view details" mode it will list server > > > name. > > > > I think that name should appear as default with all views since all > > icons > > > > look the same and there is no way of knowing which computer it is. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From LKTURNE@westvaco.com Fri Sep 7 19:54:42 2001 From: LKTURNE@westvaco.com (Larry K. Turner) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 18:54:42 +0000 Subject: VNC Server Fails Message-ID: PS. This configuration works on another PC that is setup just the same as this one (as far as rights). The major difference that I know of is that I tried to install PalmVNC which can with WinVCN 3.3.3 R7. I couldn't find an uninstall for R7 so I installed R9 over R7. LT Startup Type: Automatic Log On As: System Account Allow Service to interact with Desktop - selected LT >>> tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com 09/07/01 12:54AM >>> Check the account that the service is running under. Tony Caduto --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gregory@netdoor.com Fri Sep 7 20:27:11 2001 From: gregory@netdoor.com (Greg Breland) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 19:27:11 +0000 Subject: ATI and TightVNC conflict (was: TightVNC crash on 6 of 16 NT servers) In-Reply-To: <3B98FFE6.57FF1CC6@InvisibleRobot.com> References: <3B98FFE6.57FF1CC6@InvisibleRobot.com> Message-ID: <999886825.7041.69.camel@gbreland> Very good work on tracing this problem down. ATI cards have notioursly bad NT4 drivers. Does this only happen with TightVNC? Have you tried the AT&T version? Eveytime I have a customer that is having problems with their servers blue screening, it is usually the video card at fault. All cards are guilty of this, bug ATI seems to be the worst and Matrox the best with NT4. Greg On Fri, 2001-09-07 at 12:12, Eric Carlson wrote: > I've narrowed down the TightVNC crashed to an ATI video conflict. > > If I run certain ATI video cards at 800x600, 16-bit color on NT > 4.0/SP6a, even with the latest ATI drivers, WinVNC usually gives a Dr. > Watson error upon VNC client login. > > If I switch to 800x600, 256 color, it seems to work fine. > > The card is the "ATI Rage128". The problem happens with various > drivers, including the 4.3.192 driver from the ATI web site. I had to > switch all these to 256 color. > > I also had the problem on the "ATI 3D Rage IIC", but the problem seems > to have gone away with the 4.00.1381.3247 driver from the ATI web site. > The problem does exist in the 4.00.1381.3254 driver from Compaq, and > with the 5.2.040 ATI driver. > > - Eric, http://www.InvisibleRobot.com/ > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Fri Sep 7 20:35:41 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 19:35:41 +0000 Subject: Selection problem on server desktop with WinVNC In-Reply-To: <01090709084503.01982@linux> Message-ID: <000501c137cb$8f6c1b00$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> Hey there. This sounds like it is the shift key getting stuck down (not physical but might be). Just try hitting the shift key a few times then try again. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Michael Molloy Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:09 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Selection problem on server desktop with WinVNC I've got WinVNC 3.3.3 R9 running on Windows 2000. To access it, I've tried both the Linux client (3.3.3 r2 linux 2.0) and a java enabled linux browser. The problem occurs in both the viewer & browser, so it looks to be a server problem. If I select an icon on the bottom of the desktop, it is selected along with every icon above it on the desktop. The only way to select a single icon is to select the icon at the top of the desktop (like the "My Computer" icon). I've had this problem before, rebooted the Win2K machine, and the problem went away. However, it is not going away this time after rebooting. Seached the archives, but I couldn't find anything. Any help is appreciated. Thanks --Michael -- ========================================================== Michael Molloy ResortQuest International Java Developer www.ResortQuest.com 901.762.4076 mmolloy@resortquest.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From msuresh_2001@yahoo.com Fri Sep 7 20:40:49 2001 From: msuresh_2001@yahoo.com (Suresh Mahalingam) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 19:40:49 +0000 Subject: VNC Problem Message-ID: <3B9913E9.A3DEE39D@yahoo.com> Hi, I have a VNC 3.3.3r7 server on Win2k. When I try to access this from 3.3.3r3 solaris client ( installed on 2.6 ) or from 3.3.3r9 win98 client I face the following problem: If I open an IE browser window and access a site and do scrolling ( Not very fast ) after sometime the browser window does not display properly. Most of the stuff from previous scroll page is left over. However if I move the cursor back and forth on the browser window the cursor acts like a wipe and "cleans" out old stuff exposing the correct content that should be displayed. Is this a know problem. Can I do something to fix it? Thanks, Suresh. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Fri Sep 7 21:51:45 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 20:51:45 +0000 Subject: VNC Problem Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04DA4@QMAIL> Have you tried selected/unselecting the various "poll under" options on the winvnc server properties and restarting Winvnc?? Sounds like a polling issue to me... -----Original Message----- From: Suresh Mahalingam [mailto:msuresh_2001@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 2:37 PM To: VNC Mailing List Subject: VNC Problem Hi, I have a VNC 3.3.3r7 server on Win2k. When I try to access this from 3.3.3r3 solaris client ( installed on 2.6 ) or from 3.3.3r9 win98 client I face the following problem: If I open an IE browser window and access a site and do scrolling ( Not very fast ) after sometime the browser window does not display properly. Most of the stuff from previous scroll page is left over. However if I move the cursor back and forth on the browser window the cursor acts like a wipe and "cleans" out old stuff exposing the correct content that should be displayed. Is this a know problem. Can I do something to fix it? Thanks, Suresh. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Fri Sep 7 22:14:24 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 21:14:24 +0000 Subject: VNC Problem In-Reply-To: <3B9913E9.A3DEE39D@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001c137d7$86d3ac40$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> Sure, just click on the title/menu bar. or click in the IE on a spot where there isn't a link. (your mouse will change to show you are over a link). Or change the poll to poll window under cursor (note it will slow things down). Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Suresh Mahalingam Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 2:37 PM To: VNC Mailing List Subject: VNC Problem Hi, I have a VNC 3.3.3r7 server on Win2k. When I try to access this from 3.3.3r3 solaris client ( installed on 2.6 ) or from 3.3.3r9 win98 client I face the following problem: If I open an IE browser window and access a site and do scrolling ( Not very fast ) after sometime the browser window does not display properly. Most of the stuff from previous scroll page is left over. However if I move the cursor back and forth on the browser window the cursor acts like a wipe and "cleans" out old stuff exposing the correct content that should be displayed. Is this a know problem. Can I do something to fix it? Thanks, Suresh. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ychen@bergana.com Sat Sep 8 00:56:46 2001 From: ychen@bergana.com (Simon Y. Chen) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 23:56:46 +0000 Subject: auto winvnc -connect IP to dynamic IP Message-ID: i'm trying to view PC A (win2k) at work from PC B (win2k) at home, where A is behind firewall and IP masked, B is using dial-up network hence with dynamic IP. the approach i'm using is from this list: 1. run winvnc as service on A 2. open MS outlook on A, setup rule to check mail, which runs a batch file upon finding any mail with certain_subject 3. the batch file will launch "winvnc -connect some_mapped_domain_name" 4. map the dynamic ip of B to some_mapped_domain_name using dynamic DNS service online 5. open viewer in listen mode on B, send email with certain_subject the outlook rule on A will get that email, launch the batch file, initialize connection to the mapped domain name, from the server on A to the viewer on B. it sould do. my question is about step 3 and 4 where i map the dynamic ip. this approach relies on the website mapping the dynamic ip. i'm wondering if i can do it in simpler way. for instance, if outlook can automatically save attachment, i can attach the batch file which contains my dynamic ip (unmapped), then when the batch file is executed, winvnc connects to my ip. i don't know how to let outlook do that, and, anybody did anything else to solve this problem? thanks. Simon 9/7 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gbendotti@agric.wa.gov.au Sat Sep 8 01:15:30 2001 From: gbendotti@agric.wa.gov.au (Bendotti, Gerard) Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 00:15:30 +0000 Subject: ATI and TightVNC conflict (was: TightVNC crash on 6 of 16 NT servers) Message-ID: <2BCD8A1EC385D311AE9B00062950091901F00A57@agspsrv19.agric.wa .gov.au> Same with the crashes that I was experiencing, except that mine were not confined to VNC, the suppliers ended up replacing the whole machine, saying nothing had changed, but as a result of some advice from tis list I had checked the video drivers, and they are now different. Coincidence? Gerard Bendotti > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From frank@dsea.com Sat Sep 8 01:41:02 2001 From: frank@dsea.com (Frank Evan Perdicaro) Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 00:41:02 +0000 Subject: Blue background In-Reply-To: ; from vnc-list-digest on Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 12:00:52AM +0100 References: Message-ID: <20010907163804.15091@mail.dsea.com> k > Someone recently advised a solid blue background for the desktop, I > understand the benefits of solid colour, but why blue? > > Gerard Bendotti That was me, when suggesting a solid background behind TightVNC on slow (14k) modem lines. The color does not matter, as long as it exists and can be displayed. I picked one (as others surmised) because it exists by default and thus could never be considered "wrong". --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From msuresh_2001@yahoo.com Sat Sep 8 01:43:36 2001 From: msuresh_2001@yahoo.com (Suresh Mahalingam) Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 00:43:36 +0000 Subject: VNC Problem References: <000001c137d7$86d3ac40$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> Message-ID: <3B99509C.3E115A0F@yahoo.com> I had to use full screen polling to get the correct display on the solaris machine. Checking Poll under cursor alone did not work. I hope additinal polling options loads only the server and not the communication between server and client. Also clicking the screen refreshes IE but it is a tedious way of browsing. Thanks, Suresh. Glenn Mabbutt wrote: > Have you tried selected/unselecting the various "poll under" options on the > winvnc server properties and restarting Winvnc?? Sounds like a polling > issue to me... Steve Palocz wrote: > > Sure, just click on the title/menu bar. or click in the IE on a spot where > there isn't a link. (your mouse will change to show you are over a link). > > Or change the poll to poll window under cursor (note it will slow things > down). > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Suresh > Mahalingam > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 2:37 PM > To: VNC Mailing List > Subject: VNC Problem > > Hi, > > I have a VNC 3.3.3r7 server on Win2k. > When I try to access this from 3.3.3r3 solaris > client ( installed on 2.6 ) or from 3.3.3r9 > win98 client I face the following problem: > > If I open an IE browser window and access a > site and do scrolling ( Not very fast ) after > sometime the browser window does not display > properly. Most of the stuff from previous > scroll page is left over. However if I move > the cursor back and forth on the browser window > the cursor acts like a wipe and "cleans" out old > stuff exposing the correct content that should > be displayed. > > Is this a know problem. Can I do something to fix it? > > Thanks, > Suresh. > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Eric@InvisibleRobot.com Sat Sep 8 02:22:47 2001 From: Eric@InvisibleRobot.com (Eric Carlson) Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 01:22:47 +0000 Subject: ATI and TightVNC conflict (was: TightVNC crash on 6 of 16 NT servers) References: Message-ID: <3B9963DE.8ECAEA0F@InvisibleRobot.com> > Very good work on tracing this problem down. Thanks. > Does this only happen with TightVNC? Have you tried the AT&T version? The short answer is: sort of. The problem started when I switched to TightVNC from AT&T VNC, but I haven't tried AT&T VNC since updating the video drivers to see if the problem goes away again. Many more details are in my original thread. - Eric, http://www.InvisibleRobot.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Sat Sep 8 05:19:18 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 04:19:18 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander Available References: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126AB@CFJH> <003701c13755$dab509d0$0201a8c0@athlon1000> <188186255471.20010907132042@mediaone.net> Message-ID: <000701c13815$ab69f080$0201a8c0@athlon1000> Hi Jim, Yep, thats a Tummy Issue :-) He has not released the source code yet, so you will have to pass that info on to him. Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Brown" To: ; "Tony Caduto" Cc: Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:20 PM Subject: Re: New Version of VNC Commander Available > Hi Tony, > > I noted a likely bug.... but not really in Commander... but more in > Tummy's dll with the way it threads itself on the clipboard queue..... > Not sure if you're handling this at all... but figured I'd mention it in > case it's effecting others though I've yet to spend enough time > debugging everything to send info to Thong... > > The issue showed up as evident to me as I use Clipmate ; > > www.thornsoft.com > > which pops up when the clipboard chain has been incorrectly broken.... > thus this clip capturing utility get bumped from the chain.... it > seems that VNCX just takes over the clipboard chain rather than > threading it self on the top of the chain... (for local<>server > clipboard functionality).... > > The issue is when multiple clipboard aware utils are threading and > re-threading VNCX bumps them off and if they then rethread VNCX seems to > crash.. > > > Best Regards, > Jim > > ------------- Original message text ------------------ > Date: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:30:41 AM -0500 > From: Tony Caduto > To: > CC: > Subject: New Version of VNC Commander Available > Files: > > There is a new updated version of VNC Commander Available. > This release adds the following: > > Set Codec IE Hextile, CopyRect, etc > Checkbox to share connection > Checkbox for View only option, this disable keyboard and mouse input > Checkbox for Request Frames > Checkbox for Progressive Drawing > > A new connection now defaults to Hextile with Request Frames > > All options are per connection. > You can get it here: http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com > > > Enjoy > > Tony Caduto > > PS > Would anyone be interested in a NT/9x service that you could install with > your VNC server that could provide file transfer/System Info capabilities ? > It would be integrated in with the VNC Commander Viewer form and could also > be activated from the icon. > This would be a seperate service that would complement the VNC server. > I have the code already created for another project and it is created with > INDY http://www.nevrona.com/indy > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From vnc@mitchb.org Sat Sep 8 18:07:22 2001 From: vnc@mitchb.org (Mitch) Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 17:07:22 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander Available In-Reply-To: <003701c13755$dab509d0$0201a8c0@athlon1000> References: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126AB@CFJH> <003701c13755$dab509d0$0201a8c0@athlon1000> Message-ID: <3b9a144d.669220@mid.mitchb.org> Hi Tony Caduto You wrote >There is a new updated version of VNC Commander Available. >This release adds the following: Don't know whether it is my setup or not, but one one particular connection kept on getting a message "list index out of bounds(8)". Trying to edit the connection - I couldn't get in to edit, just the same error mesage o Deleted the entry, then re-added it. Same problem o Deleted then re-added with a zoom level of 90 instead of 100. Problem solved. o Then edited entry, putting zoom level back to 100. No problem o exited out of VNCC, problem back o realised that each time it was the 'auto launch' connection which blew up o confirmed that diagnosis by experimenting with the other nodes As I said, it could just be my setup ... -- Mitch --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Sun Sep 9 06:35:52 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 05:35:52 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander Available References: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126AB@CFJH> <003701c13755$dab509d0$0201a8c0@athlon1000> <3b9a144d.669220@mid.mitchb.org> Message-ID: <001001c138e8$a1b498a0$0201a8c0@athlon1000> Thanks Mitch, I will check it out, I may have goofed something up in the last build :-) Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mitch" To: Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 8:15 AM Subject: Re: New Version of VNC Commander Available > Hi Tony Caduto > > You wrote > > >There is a new updated version of VNC Commander Available. > >This release adds the following: > > Don't know whether it is my setup or not, but one one particular > connection kept on getting a message "list index out of bounds(8)". > Trying to edit the connection - I couldn't get in to edit, just the same > error mesage > > o Deleted the entry, then re-added it. Same problem > o Deleted then re-added with a zoom level of 90 instead of 100. Problem > solved. > o Then edited entry, putting zoom level back to 100. No problem > o exited out of VNCC, problem back > > > > o realised that each time it was the 'auto launch' connection which blew > up > o confirmed that diagnosis by experimenting with the other nodes > > As I said, it could just be my setup ... > > -- > Mitch > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Sun Sep 9 06:36:47 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 05:36:47 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander Available References: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126AB@CFJH> <003701c13755$dab509d0$0201a8c0@athlon1000> <3b9a144d.669220@mid.mitchb.org> Message-ID: <001a01c138e9$c65ca3e0$0201a8c0@athlon1000> Mitch, can you email me the vnc_commander.ini file when you notice weird stuff like that. Then I can have the same settings you do and it will be easier to diagnose. Also make sure you have the latest version from the web page. Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mitch" To: Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 8:15 AM Subject: Re: New Version of VNC Commander Available > Hi Tony Caduto > > You wrote > > >There is a new updated version of VNC Commander Available. > >This release adds the following: > > Don't know whether it is my setup or not, but one one particular > connection kept on getting a message "list index out of bounds(8)". > Trying to edit the connection - I couldn't get in to edit, just the same > error mesage > > o Deleted the entry, then re-added it. Same problem > o Deleted then re-added with a zoom level of 90 instead of 100. Problem > solved. > o Then edited entry, putting zoom level back to 100. No problem > o exited out of VNCC, problem back > > > > o realised that each time it was the 'auto launch' connection which blew > up > o confirmed that diagnosis by experimenting with the other nodes > > As I said, it could just be my setup ... > > -- > Mitch > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Sun Sep 9 06:44:24 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 05:44:24 +0000 Subject: Reporting VNC Commander Bugs References: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126AB@CFJH> <003701c13755$dab509d0$0201a8c0@athlon1000> <3b9a144d.669220@mid.mitchb.org> Message-ID: <001e01c138ea$ddf52da0$0201a8c0@athlon1000> Hi, When you find or think you have found a bug, please email me directly the vnc_commander.ini file along with a description of the problem. If your VNC servers are on the net make sure you take the password out and change the IP addresses/host names in the INI file to something bogus. With the INI file I will be able to diagnose the problem much faster. Tony Caduto A&M Software Design --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Sun Sep 9 20:13:18 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 19:13:18 +0000 Subject: VNC Commander Pro Ideas? References: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126AB@CFJH> <003701c13755$dab509d0$0201a8c0@athlon1000> <3b9a144d.669220@mid.mitchb.org> Message-ID: <001501c1395b$f3f93fd0$0201a8c0@athlon1000> I was just wondering how many people would be interested in a File Sharing daemon that would run on Linux for VNC Commander Pro? I have the ability to easily do this using the same source code. (Thanks to Borland Kylix http://www.borland.com/kylix). I would also like to know if a windows help file would be a welcome addition? VNC Commander Pro will include the following features. 1. Everything VNC Commander has + a. File sharing/Sys Info Agent that will run as a Win9x/NT/2K service b. Port scanner to build a basic list - it will be able to scan a class b subnet (65,000 addresses) for the port of your choice and add a icon to the list, you would then be able to customize the icons. c. A full windows based help system (standard help and html help, your choice). If I put all this work into it, I won't be able to give it away for free. I just want to cover my costs so I was thinking of a registration fee of say 29.00 US dollars for unlimited use per company. So 29 bucks will allow you to use as many copies as you want. Another option would be to just charge for the help file? I will make the decision based on your feedback to this question. I am not out to make shitloads of cash on this, I just want to cover my costs, so I can continue to provide quality software and service. Thanks, Tony Caduto --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Sun Sep 9 20:13:26 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 19:13:26 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander Available (bug fix) References: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126AB@CFJH> <003701c13755$dab509d0$0201a8c0@athlon1000> <3b9a144d.669220@mid.mitchb.org> Message-ID: <001101c13959$5167e340$0201a8c0@athlon1000> Many thanks to Mitch who found a bug and sent me his vnc_commander.ini file. I was able to actually see the same thing he was seeing and this saved tons of time. The bug had to do with the autolaunch feature firing before other settings such as codec where initilized, I just had to move the autolaunch instruction to the end and that fixed it. The bug is fixed and the updated Wise setup program is on my website http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com Enjoy, Tony Caduto A&M Software Design --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Sun Sep 9 20:32:14 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 19:32:14 +0000 Subject: VNC Commander Pro Ideas? In-Reply-To: <001501c1395b$f3f93fd0$0201a8c0@athlon1000> Message-ID: go ahead - When do you plan to release it? -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Tony Caduto Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 8:19 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: VNC Commander Pro Ideas? I was just wondering how many people would be interested in a File Sharing daemon that would run on Linux for VNC Commander Pro? I have the ability to easily do this using the same source code. (Thanks to Borland Kylix http://www.borland.com/kylix). I would also like to know if a windows help file would be a welcome addition? VNC Commander Pro will include the following features. 1. Everything VNC Commander has + a. File sharing/Sys Info Agent that will run as a Win9x/NT/2K service b. Port scanner to build a basic list - it will be able to scan a class b subnet (65,000 addresses) for the port of your choice and add a icon to the list, you would then be able to customize the icons. c. A full windows based help system (standard help and html help, your choice). If I put all this work into it, I won't be able to give it away for free. I just want to cover my costs so I was thinking of a registration fee of say 29.00 US dollars for unlimited use per company. So 29 bucks will allow you to use as many copies as you want. Another option would be to just charge for the help file? I will make the decision based on your feedback to this question. I am not out to make shitloads of cash on this, I just want to cover my costs, so I can continue to provide quality software and service. Thanks, Tony Caduto --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jtb@mediaone.net Sun Sep 9 20:32:52 2001 From: jtb@mediaone.net (Jim Brown) Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 19:32:52 +0000 Subject: VNC Commander Pro Ideas? In-Reply-To: <001501c1395b$f3f93fd0$0201a8c0@athlon1000> References: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126AB@CFJH> <003701c13755$dab509d0$0201a8c0@athlon1000> <3b9a144d.669220@mid.mitchb.org> <001501c1395b$f3f93fd0$0201a8c0@athlon1000> Message-ID: <5599231667.20010909143045@mediaone.net> Hi Tony, I would be happy to pay for a supported version.... even for my personal use... though that includes what I do for a living as I work for Cisco, but primarily from home where I have a lab of 12-15 systems.... The issue I would see is that in order to charge for the product you would need to be able to support it fully for business's to be able to rely on it (as many of our labs do for VNC proper, but for free with local resources used to fix bugs in the Open Source versions when bugs are encountered), and as I encountered the simple clipboard bug this week it would be a major issue if this were critical to a business and Thong was not willing work the issue or make the code available for others to resolve it..... I suppose the wording of the license could cover such an issue... but I'd be careful to insure it did... as I had to go back to VNC proper... just because of another app that I require (multiple clipboard support) forced the VNCX bug... Just my $0.02..... PS. I took this off the list as my comments really wouldn't be relevant there .. Best Regards, Jim ------------- Original message text ------------------ Date: Sunday, September 09, 2001 2:19:22 PM -0500 From: Tony Caduto To: CC: Subject: VNC Commander Pro Ideas? Files: I was just wondering how many people would be interested in a File Sharing daemon that would run on Linux for VNC Commander Pro? I have the ability to easily do this using the same source code. (Thanks to Borland Kylix http://www.borland.com/kylix). I would also like to know if a windows help file would be a welcome addition? VNC Commander Pro will include the following features. 1. Everything VNC Commander has + a. File sharing/Sys Info Agent that will run as a Win9x/NT/2K service b. Port scanner to build a basic list - it will be able to scan a class b subnet (65,000 addresses) for the port of your choice and add a icon to the list, you would then be able to customize the icons. c. A full windows based help system (standard help and html help, your choice). If I put all this work into it, I won't be able to give it away for free. I just want to cover my costs so I was thinking of a registration fee of say 29.00 US dollars for unlimited use per company. So 29 bucks will allow you to use as many copies as you want. Another option would be to just charge for the help file? I will make the decision based on your feedback to this question. I am not out to make shitloads of cash on this, I just want to cover my costs, so I can continue to provide quality software and service. Thanks, Tony Caduto --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From williamc@nconnect.net Sun Sep 9 22:11:57 2001 From: williamc@nconnect.net (Casey Williams) Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 21:11:57 +0000 Subject: VNC Commander Pro Ideas? In-Reply-To: <001501c1395b$f3f93fd0$0201a8c0@athlon1000> Message-ID: <000801c1396b$06172ab0$0100a8c0@willdell> I've been working on a project for nearly 6 months somewhat like this. My program will scan networks for VNC hosts and will create HTML and/or Shortcuts to them. I'm adding the more subtle (and confusing:) features at the moment such as copy and pasting and keeping track of hosts and scans in INI files. At the moment, this will run on both Windows and Linux, however I can't guarantee Linux support in the future, however, it should be "do-able". After this project is released, I'm planning on writing a program that sits on a server and constantly scans (of course at configurable times) a network updating a DB or HTML file. Here is a link to a fairly recent version, however this *IS* alpha/beta code and will have some bugs and some features may not fully work, but you can give it a try... www.nconnect.net/~williamc/VNCAdmin.zip -Casey Williams -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On Behalf Of Tony Caduto Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 1:19 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: VNC Commander Pro Ideas? I was just wondering how many people would be interested in a File Sharing daemon that would run on Linux for VNC Commander Pro? I have the ability to easily do this using the same source code. (Thanks to Borland Kylix http://www.borland.com/kylix). I would also like to know if a windows help file would be a welcome addition? VNC Commander Pro will include the following features. 1. Everything VNC Commander has + a. File sharing/Sys Info Agent that will run as a Win9x/NT/2K service b. Port scanner to build a basic list - it will be able to scan a class b subnet (65,000 addresses) for the port of your choice and add a icon to the list, you would then be able to customize the icons. c. A full windows based help system (standard help and html help, your choice). If I put all this work into it, I won't be able to give it away for free. I just want to cover my costs so I was thinking of a registration fee of say 29.00 US dollars for unlimited use per company. So 29 bucks will allow you to use as many copies as you want. Another option would be to just charge for the help file? I will make the decision based on your feedback to this question. I am not out to make shitloads of cash on this, I just want to cover my costs, so I can continue to provide quality software and service. Thanks, Tony Caduto --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From stefane_bridy@yahoo.com Sun Sep 9 23:03:54 2001 From: stefane_bridy@yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Stefane=20Bridy?=) Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 22:03:54 +0000 Subject: "IdleTimeout" not working on all computers ... why ? Message-ID: <20010909205901.59910.qmail@web11601.mail.yahoo.com> Still no answer to my problem below ... _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Construye tu pagina personal en Yahoo! GeoCities. !Es facil, rapido y gratis! http://geocities.yahoo.com.mx X-Apparently-To: stefane_bridy@yahoo.com via web11608.mail.yahoo.com; 07 Sep 2001 04:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: X-Track: 1: 40 Received: from shallot.uk.research.att.com (158.124.64.109) by mta589.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 07 Sep 2001 04:23:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from majordom by shallot.uk.research.att.com with local (Exim 3.13 #3) id 15fJgS-0000ZG-00 for vnc-list-outgoing@uk.research.att.com; Fri, 07 Sep 2001 12:20:28 +0100 Received: from web11602.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.172.54]) by shallot.uk.research.att.com with smtp (Exim 3.13 #3) id 15fJgQ-0000Z7-00 for vnc-list@uk.research.att.com; Fri, 07 Sep 2001 12:20:27 +0100 Message-ID: <20010907112024.92038.qmail@web11602.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [212.190.145.100] by web11602.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Sep 2001 06:20:24 CDT Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 06:20:24 -0500 (CDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Stefane=20Bridy?= Subject: "IdleTimeout" not working on all computers ... why ? To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Precedence: bulk X-Loop: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Content-Length: 1613 On the intra-network, often people forget about the connection they made, and with the number, it slows down a lot the whole network. Therefore I wanted to set IdleTimeout to 10 minutes in the register. It tried on my NT4 laptop (with the .reg file below) and it works great!! BUT, when I installed the .reg file on other NT4 desktop computers, ... it didn't work. It never terminated the connection! I checked in the register, but the new parameters where there. And when I clicked on the task bar green tray icon, I could see that "Properties" was in grey (disabled), hence obeing the "AllowProperties" option. The machines are service pack 5 with WinVNC 3.3.3 R9, so it should be ok. The only problem I can think of is that on some, VNC is installed as a service ... but shouldn't it work anyway ? Anyone an idea ? Thanx a lot Stifane ============= REGEDIT4 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ORL\WinVNC3] "IdleTimeout"=dword:00000258 "Password"=hex: ... well, hidden :-) [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\Default] "IdleTimeout"=dword:00000258 "Password"=hex: ... well, hidden :-) "AllowProperties"=dword:00000000 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Construye tu pagina personal en Yahoo! GeoCities. !Es facil, rapido y gratis! http://geocities.yahoo.com.mx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From scanman@scanman.mine.nu Mon Sep 10 04:19:34 2001 From: scanman@scanman.mine.nu (ScanMan) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 03:19:34 +0000 Subject: Cursor all black when using Xvnc In-Reply-To: <20010909205901.59910.qmail@web11601.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200109100214.f8A2Eul10499@proxy.localhost.localdomain> Hi, I'm running Xvnc on Linux x86, and the mouse cursor shows up as completely black. Is there anything that can be done about this? It happens when using the Linux client, the Windows client, the Java client, and the Mac client. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From I.Kaijen@holec.nl Mon Sep 10 09:54:51 2001 From: I.Kaijen@holec.nl (Kaijen, I.) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 08:54:51 +0000 Subject: connection with w2k on a notebook keeps failing Message-ID: Hi, I'm trying to connect from a NT4 WS to a notebook (W2K Pro installed). It keeps saying "VNC authentication failed", i use the same password on hte laptop & the WS. Everything I try doesn't seem to work, even copying the REG settings from my NT4 station. Please help me ... out --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From lindac65@earthlink.net Mon Sep 10 10:53:45 2001 From: lindac65@earthlink.net (Linda Worthington) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 09:53:45 +0000 Subject: connection with w2k on a notebook keeps failing References: Message-ID: <000501c139d5$6f64d160$676412ac@LINDA500> I had the same issue. The problem for me was the pw must be the same on the app mode, viewer, and server( services). My services password was different and I could not access the W2K server or NT, W2K machines. This also kept VNC from running as a service allowing me to reboot, etc. Now it works great! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kaijen, I." To: Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 3:43 AM Subject: connection with w2k on a notebook keeps failing > Hi, > > I'm trying to connect from a NT4 WS to a notebook (W2K Pro installed). It > keeps saying "VNC authentication failed", i use the same password on hte > laptop & the WS. > > Everything I try doesn't seem to work, even copying the REG settings from my > NT4 station. > > Please help me ... out > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From I.Kaijen@holec.nl Mon Sep 10 11:26:36 2001 From: I.Kaijen@holec.nl (Kaijen, I.) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 10:26:36 +0000 Subject: connecting to a notebook with w2k failure Message-ID: Hi, I'm trying to connect from a NT4 WS to a notebook (W2K Pro installed). It keeps saying "VNC authentication failed", i use the same password on hte laptop & the WS. Everything I try doesn't seem to work, even copying the REG settings from my NT4 station. Please help me ... out --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From stefane_bridy@yahoo.com Mon Sep 10 13:16:21 2001 From: stefane_bridy@yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Stefane=20Bridy?=) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 12:16:21 +0000 Subject: IdleTimeout : why doesn't it work with "Poll full screen" ? (and still ok with other polling methods!) Message-ID: <20010910111159.72895.qmail@web11602.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Still my IdleTimeout trouble, but I managed to find where the problem seems to be, likely a Bug. In the documentation, it says that if no "input events or update request" during IdleTimeout (seconds), then the connection is terminated from the WinVNC side. Hence it shouldn't have anything to do with the Poll options, right? As the remote computer doesn't ask anything, it's juste the local computer that's automatically polling. I found that the only way to have the IdleTimeout option working is to deactivate the "Poll full screen option" !!?! Why is that ? And if there is a justification for "poll full screen", why isn't it the same with "poll foreground windows"? Does anyone know something about it ? 'cause I'm not sure that "Poll active window" is enough for me. I can't guarantee it updates the whole screen in case I have many windows. Hope to read you soon. Stifane from Switzerland _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Construye tu pagina personal en Yahoo! GeoCities. !Es facil, rapido y gratis! http://geocities.yahoo.com.mx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From BoivinP@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca Mon Sep 10 14:45:25 2001 From: BoivinP@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca (Boivin, Patrice J) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:45:25 +0000 Subject: java.io.IOException: Your connection has been rejected Message-ID: Hi, I just joined the list, and am a newbie at VNC. I searched the FAQ and the documentation, but couldn't find a reference to this error. We have a number of NT servers inside and outside our firewall. I added the IP address of the machines that ought to have access to VNC on one server in the registry on that VNC server. We find that when we try to access the VNC server via Web browser from one machine, we can authenticate and see the console for the VNC Server. When we try to connect via browser from the other NT servers on the IP list in the VNC server, * the browser loads the java applet that prompts for the password. * We click on the button, then get the following error: Java.io.IOException: Your connection has been rejected. We thought for a while this had to do with the firewall, but the firewall logs show the VNC server and the NT server talking to each other on both ports. It seems that once we submit a password to authenticate, the VNC Server is either not able to talk to some machines, or is not able to open a channel to "feed" the console picture to the other NT server. I tried playing with the video settings, i.e. ensure that the NT server has a higher resolution than the VNC server. Has anyone seen this error? TIA Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Acting Head Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systhmes Technology Services | Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Rigion des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: boivinp@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From dwyllie@s-un.co.uk Mon Sep 10 15:18:47 2001 From: dwyllie@s-un.co.uk (Daniel Wyllie) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 14:18:47 +0000 Subject: java.io.IOException: Your connection has been rejected In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000401c139f9$72d5aad0$1fab0180@systemsx> Hi Patrice, >I added the IP address of the machines that ought to have access to VNC on >one server in the registry on that VNC server. > ..... >We thought for a while this had to do with the firewall, but the firewall >logs show the VNC server and the NT server talking to each other on both >ports. What port numbers are you allowing through the firewall? Dan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ebo@ercom.fr Mon Sep 10 17:01:21 2001 From: ebo@ercom.fr (Eric Bourdin) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 16:01:21 +0000 Subject: font error Message-ID: <3B9CD4E7.7DF29420@ercom.fr> Dear Vnc users, I use a VNC server on a Suse 7.1 box. Each time I try to connect with my linux VNC client (a Suse 7.1), I get this error message : Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-*-*" to type FontStruct There is no specific error message on logs produced by the X server. Obviously a font is missing somewhere. Does it mean my VNC server is badly configured ? Or maybe, a font is missing on client-side ? I looked for font packs on xfree86.org but I couldn't find this one. Did someone ever run into this very specific problem ? regards, Here is the raw output of my vncviewer. VNC server supports protocol version 3.3 (viewer 3.3) No authentication needed Desktop name "x11 desktop (xxx:14)" Connected to VNC server, using protocol version 3.3 VNC server default format: 16 bits per pixel. Least significant byte first in each pixel. True colour: max red 31 green 63 blue 31, shift red 11 green 5 blue 0 Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-*-*" to type FontStruct Using default colormap which is TrueColor. Pixel format: 16 bits per pixel. Least significant byte first in each pixel. True colour: max red 31 green 63 blue 31, shift red 11 green 5 blue 0 Using shared memory PutImage ShmCleanup called -- Eric Bourdin sociiti Ercom **************************************************************************** Ce message et toutes les pihces jointes (ci-aprhs "le message") sont confidentiels et itablis ` l'attention exclusive de ses destinataires. Toute utilisation ou diffusion non autorisie est interdite. Tout message ilectronique est susceptible d'altiration. ERCOM dicline toute responsabiliti au titre de ce message s'il a iti altiri, diformi ou falsifii. ********** This message and any attachments (the "message") are confidential and intended solely for the addressees. Any unauthorized use or dissemination is prohibited. E-mails are susceptible to alteration. ERCOM shall not be liable for the message if altered, changed or falsified. **************************************************************************** --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jnw22@cam.ac.uk Mon Sep 10 17:42:17 2001 From: jnw22@cam.ac.uk (James ''Wez'' Weatherall) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 16:42:17 +0000 Subject: WinVNC and W2K Server "Connectino Closed" message. References: Message-ID: <005001c13a0e$868375c0$1062a981@eng.cam.ac.uk> Are you running WinVNC as a service, or as an application. Are any messages displayed on the server machine's screen when you attempt to connect to it & are disconnected? Cheers, --- James "Wez" Weatherall "The path to enlightenment is /usr/bin/enlightenment" Laboratory for Communications Engineering, Cambridge - Tel : 766513 AT&T Labs Cambridge, UK - Tel : 343000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Eric Josephson" To: ; ; ; ; Cc: Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 5:27 PM Subject: WinVNC and W2K Server "Connectino Closed" message. > I'm sorry for the intrusion. I have been using WinVNC on a number of > systems for some time now, with great luck. I have tried to install it and > get it running on W2K server, SP2. I keep getting the "Connection Closed" > message after I properly authenticate. My symptoms are exactly the same as > the snip below. I have made all attempts to connect to a system that is > currently logged in and the screen saver is not active. > > I was reading a thread in the mailing list archives for VNC about a Win2k > Server and WinVNC "Connection Closed" problem. I could not find a > resolution in the archive. Do you recall if there ever was a fix for the > problem? Thanks in advance for your time. > > ---- snip > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Darren Armstrong [mailto:darren.armstrong@telus.com] > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 6:57 PM > To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' > Subject: WinVNC on Windows 2000 Server > > I know that this issue has been brought up in previous discussions. > However, I was not able to find a suitable solution. > > I am able to install and connect to WinVNC on win2k Professional without any > problems. I CANNOT install (as a service) or connect to WinVNC on win2k > Server. I get a 'connection closed' message as soon as submit my password. > This happens even if I set WinVNC to accepting null passwords. > > -- > > J. Eric Josephson > 978-356-3506 > 978-265-6295 Cellular > > mailto:jej@6pine.com > AIM: "jejosephso" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Douglas.Helm@PZLQS.com Mon Sep 10 18:05:42 2001 From: Douglas.Helm@PZLQS.com (Helm, Douglas) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 17:05:42 +0000 Subject: VNC as a service Message-ID: <89970BA37995D5119A430008C74CC391015426@HOUMSG04> Is there a way to install VNC as a service WITHOUT having to install it to the Start Menu first? Command line option? TIA, Doug --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From IanF@src.co.uk Mon Sep 10 18:05:45 2001 From: IanF@src.co.uk (Ian Ferguson) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 17:05:45 +0000 Subject: VncServer on Solaris 2.5 (newbie) Startup Problem Message-ID: Being a newbie to VNC in a Unix environment I'm afraid I need some help. Whenever I try to start the vncserver on the box I get the following in the log file : _XSERVTransSocketCreateListener: failed to bind listener _XSERVTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to create listener for local Fatal server error: Failed to establish all listening sockets xrdb: Interrupted system call xrdb: Can't open display 'devman1:1' xsetroot: unable to open display 'devman1:1' xterm Xt error: Can't open display: devman1:1 twm: unable to open display "devman1:1" Can someone please help me or point me in the right direction. Thanks, Ian --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From IanF@src.co.uk Mon Sep 10 18:20:57 2001 From: IanF@src.co.uk (Ian Ferguson) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 17:20:57 +0000 Subject: FW: VncServer on Solaris 2.5 (newbie) Startup Problem : Sorry Sun OS 5.6 Message-ID: Sorry, I forgot to mention it is SunOS 5.6 Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Ian Ferguson [mailto:IanF@src.co.uk] Sent: 10 September 2001 17:05 To: VNC (E-mail) Subject: VncServer on Solaris 2.5 (newbie) Startup Problem Being a newbie to VNC in a Unix environment I'm afraid I need some help. Whenever I try to start the vncserver on the box I get the following in the log file : _XSERVTransSocketCreateListener: failed to bind listener _XSERVTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to create listener for local Fatal server error: Failed to establish all listening sockets xrdb: Interrupted system call xrdb: Can't open display 'devman1:1' xsetroot: unable to open display 'devman1:1' xterm Xt error: Can't open display: devman1:1 twm: unable to open display "devman1:1" Can someone please help me or point me in the right direction. Thanks, Ian --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Mon Sep 10 18:26:36 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 17:26:36 +0000 Subject: javanet.NoRoute to hostException: Operation Message-ID: I've posted this a few times but nobody appears to know I've still got the problem of "javanet.NoRoute to hostException: Operation timed out." after trying to connect from anywhere to a SDSL NAT routed vnc server (5800/5900). The Serverapplet with browser appears but nothing happens after trying to log in. After a few seconds the above message. Using the viewer I get a black screen (using commander) or no screen using viewer) and after a few seconds I get "failed to connect to server/host" vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From IanF@src.co.uk Mon Sep 10 18:28:59 2001 From: IanF@src.co.uk (Ian Ferguson) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 17:28:59 +0000 Subject: FW: VncServer on Solaris 2.5 (newbie) Startup Problem - Problem Solved Message-ID: All sorted !! -----Original Message----- From: Ian Ferguson [mailto:IanF@src.co.uk] Sent: 10 September 2001 17:05 To: VNC (E-mail) Subject: VncServer on Solaris 2.5 (newbie) Startup Problem Being a newbie to VNC in a Unix environment I'm afraid I need some help. Whenever I try to start the vncserver on the box I get the following in the log file : _XSERVTransSocketCreateListener: failed to bind listener _XSERVTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to create listener for local Fatal server error: Failed to establish all listening sockets xrdb: Interrupted system call xrdb: Can't open display 'devman1:1' xsetroot: unable to open display 'devman1:1' xterm Xt error: Can't open display: devman1:1 twm: unable to open display "devman1:1" Can someone please help me or point me in the right direction. Thanks, Ian --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From CTurner@snampro.co.uk Mon Sep 10 19:03:45 2001 From: CTurner@snampro.co.uk (TURNER Chris) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 18:03:45 +0000 Subject: FW: Silent Installation of WinVNC problem... Message-ID: <31D6884459B6D411AD4D00508BB1B0C71C4421@SPSV0054> Hi, Just wondering if anyone has any suggestions about this problem posted on 24/08/01 (detailed below)... Cheers - Chris. > -----Original Message----- > From: TURNER Chris > Sent: 24 August 2001 16:48 > To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' > Subject: Silent Installation of WinVNC problem... > > Hi, > > I'm trying to remotely install WinVNC to Windows NT 4.0 workstations via a > DOS login script. I've managed to generate a silent install response file > (setup.iss) by running the Installshield program with the -r switch, then > using the response file to do the silent install, i.e.: > > \setup.exe /S /h1[\setup.iss] > > On attempting to use it, it installs like a dream, but then after > observing the files as copied to their respective directory for about a > couple of seconds, they disappear! Running through the installer without > the silent response file in the same context works fine and the program > remains installed, but the silent installation does not persist. > > I've searched the Installshield knowledgebase (support.installshield.com) > and the VNC mailing list, but with no joy. Has anyone else come across > this and if so, any ideas?? > > Chris. ********************************************************************** The content of this email is confidential and is the property of Snamprogetti Ltd. who will safeguard its rights according to the civil and penal provisions of the law. The content may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than the addressees. If you have received this in error, please contact us immediately. Snamprogetti cannot accept any responsibility for the accuracy or completeness of this message as it has been transmitted over a public network. If you suspect that the message may have been intercepted or amended, please call +44 (0) 1256 461211. ********************************************************************** --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pkrala@vsc.teksystems.com Mon Sep 10 19:22:00 2001 From: pkrala@vsc.teksystems.com (Peter Krala) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 18:22:00 +0000 Subject: FW: Silent Installation of WinVNC problem... Message-ID: <4b008a4b.8a4b4b00@vsc.teksystems.com> It sounds like an NT rights issue- depending upon how things are configured, the setup may be running without the necessary rights to write to the disk- hence the disappearing act. As a test- log in as someone whom you know has Administrator rights on the workstation in question. It is runs OK, it suggests a permissions thing. How that would be resolved would depend on how things are set up on the network. ----- Original Message ----- From: TURNER Chris Date: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:58 pm Subject: FW: Silent Installation of WinVNC problem... > Hi, > > Just wondering if anyone has any suggestions about this problem > posted on > 24/08/01 (detailed below)... > > Cheers - Chris. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: TURNER Chris > > Sent: 24 August 2001 16:48 > > To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' > > Subject: Silent Installation of WinVNC problem... > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying to remotely install WinVNC to Windows NT 4.0 > workstations via a > > DOS login script. I've managed to generate a silent install > response file > > (setup.iss) by running the Installshield program with the -r > switch, then > > using the response file to do the silent install, i.e.: > > > > \setup.exe /S /h1[\setup.iss] > > > > On attempting to use it, it installs like a dream, but then after > > observing the files as copied to their respective directory for > about a > > couple of seconds, they disappear! Running through the installer > without> the silent response file in the same context works fine > and the program > > remains installed, but the silent installation does not persist. > > > > I've searched the Installshield knowledgebase > (support.installshield.com)> and the VNC mailing list, but with no > joy. Has anyone else come across > > this and if so, any ideas?? > > > > Chris. > > > ********************************************************************** > The content of this email is confidential and is the property > of Snamprogetti Ltd. who will safeguard its rights according > to the civil and penal provisions of the law. The content > may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than the > addressees. If you have received this in error, please > contact us immediately. > > Snamprogetti cannot accept any responsibility for the > accuracy or completeness of this message as it has been > transmitted over a public network. If you suspect that the > message may have been intercepted or amended, please > call +44 (0) 1256 461211. > ********************************************************************** > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From vnc@mitchb.org Mon Sep 10 19:53:29 2001 From: vnc@mitchb.org (Mitch) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 18:53:29 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander Available (bug fix) In-Reply-To: <001101c13959$5167e340$0201a8c0@athlon1000> References: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126AB@CFJH> <003701c13755$dab509d0$0201a8c0@athlon1000> <3b9a144d.669220@mid.mitchb.org> <001101c13959$5167e340$0201a8c0@athlon1000> Message-ID: <3b9cfc7b.11047456@mid.mitchb.org> Hi Tony You wrote >Many thanks to Mitch who found a bug and sent me his vnc_commander.ini file. >I was able to actually see the same thing he was seeing and this saved tons >of time. No problem -- except I'm a she :-P >The bug had to do with the autolaunch feature firing before other settings >such as codec where initilized, I just had to move the autolaunch >instruction to the end and that fixed it. I now seem to have lost the functionality where the remote desktop no longer scrolls down with the mouse so I can get to icons at the 'bottom'. To get to the remote taskbar, I have to reduce the zoom to 90%, start the proggy I want, then put the zoom bac to 100% so these aged eyes can read what is on the screen. What have I done ? -- Mitch --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Mon Sep 10 20:07:51 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 19:07:51 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander Available (bug fix) References: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126AB@CFJH> <003701c13755$dab509d0$0201a8c0@athlon1000> <3b9a144d.669220@mid.mitchb.org> <001101c13959$5167e340$0201a8c0@athlon1000> <3b9cfc7b.11047456@mid.mitchb.org> Message-ID: <000901c13a22$b230db90$84061fac@tr3789> Oops Sorry Mitch :-) , Anyway, I will check the code tonight, I may have accidentilly switched off the autoscroll feature. Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mitch" To: Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:52 PM Subject: Re: New Version of VNC Commander Available (bug fix) > Hi Tony > > You wrote > > >Many thanks to Mitch who found a bug and sent me his vnc_commander.ini file. > >I was able to actually see the same thing he was seeing and this saved tons > >of time. > > No problem -- except I'm a she :-P > > >The bug had to do with the autolaunch feature firing before other settings > >such as codec where initilized, I just had to move the autolaunch > >instruction to the end and that fixed it. > > I now seem to have lost the functionality where the remote desktop no > longer scrolls down with the mouse so I can get to icons at the > 'bottom'. > > To get to the remote taskbar, I have to reduce the zoom to 90%, start > the proggy I want, then put the zoom bac to 100% so these aged eyes can > read what is on the screen. > > What have I done ? > > -- > Mitch > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From zmargareten@CJH.org Mon Sep 10 20:14:07 2001 From: zmargareten@CJH.org (Zalman Margareten) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 19:14:07 +0000 Subject: VNC Problem Message-ID: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126B1@CFJH> Mentioned in this list sometime in the past. Something was mentioned about compiling a viewer with the ctrl+esc button automatically depressing or something - I too have the same issue with updating the screen w/o having to ask for a refresh. -----Original Message----- From: Suresh Mahalingam [mailto:msuresh_2001@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 2:37 PM To: VNC Mailing List Subject: VNC Problem Hi, I have a VNC 3.3.3r7 server on Win2k. When I try to access this from 3.3.3r3 solaris client ( installed on 2.6 ) or from 3.3.3r9 win98 client I face the following problem: If I open an IE browser window and access a site and do scrolling ( Not very fast ) after sometime the browser window does not display properly. Most of the stuff from previous scroll page is left over. However if I move the cursor back and forth on the browser window the cursor acts like a wipe and "cleans" out old stuff exposing the correct content that should be displayed. Is this a know problem. Can I do something to fix it? Thanks, Suresh. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From msuresh_2001@yahoo.com Mon Sep 10 20:35:47 2001 From: msuresh_2001@yahoo.com (Suresh Mahalingam) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 19:35:47 +0000 Subject: VNC Problem References: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126B1@CFJH> Message-ID: <3B9D06D8.4BFCD098@yahoo.com> This particular problem went away on on changing polling on VNC windows server to "Full screen". However it looks like it may use more bandwith apart from loading the server more. Suresh. Zalman Margareten wrote: > > Mentioned in this list sometime in the past. Something was mentioned about > compiling a viewer with the ctrl+esc button automatically depressing or > something - I too have the same issue with updating the screen w/o having to > ask for a refresh. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Suresh Mahalingam [mailto:msuresh_2001@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 2:37 PM > To: VNC Mailing List > Subject: VNC Problem > > Hi, > > I have a VNC 3.3.3r7 server on Win2k. > When I try to access this from 3.3.3r3 solaris > client ( installed on 2.6 ) or from 3.3.3r9 > win98 client I face the following problem: > > If I open an IE browser window and access a > site and do scrolling ( Not very fast ) after > sometime the browser window does not display > properly. Most of the stuff from previous > scroll page is left over. However if I move > the cursor back and forth on the browser window > the cursor acts like a wipe and "cleans" out old > stuff exposing the correct content that should > be displayed. > > Is this a know problem. Can I do something to fix it? > > Thanks, > Suresh. > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From msuresh_2001@yahoo.com Mon Sep 10 20:48:24 2001 From: msuresh_2001@yahoo.com (Suresh Mahalingam) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 19:48:24 +0000 Subject: Closing/Resizing windows in remote Unix Screens Message-ID: <3B9D09A4.67A405E5@yahoo.com> Hi, Is it possible to close or resize windows of unix screens coming from a unix vncserver in the vncviewer. I could resize only horizontally. Also I could not find a way of closing any window directly. Of course I can close the application but what if I want to close a second window opened by the application like a new netscape window? Another thing is that the color of PC screen on a UNIX based vncviewer does not reflect the color properly. Is it possible to improve this. I know I may be asking already answered questions but I did not find a search option for the archives of this list. Thanks, Suresh. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From anthony.facchin@informaticien.com Mon Sep 10 21:24:38 2001 From: anthony.facchin@informaticien.com (Anthony FACCHIN) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:24:38 +0000 Subject: FW: Silent Installation of WinVNC problem... References: <4b008a4b.8a4b4b00@vsc.teksystems.com> Message-ID: <004001c13a2d$5ab07e60$8c2ee4d5@otp039> Why don't you use a simple batch file ? 1- copy files (dll, winvnc.exe...) to \Program Files\VNC 2- regedit /s "file.reg" with a saved registry from a good config. 3- winvnc -install (the message "successfull" disappear automaticaly) 4- net start VNC (if you want to use it without reboot) I never try it, but I think it will work ?! I'm new to the ML, so I introduce you : I'm Anthony, French, 27... I'm here to learn more about VNC (tips, bug, news...) and eventually answer ! I work only with Windows (sorry, i'm testing Linux, but not so easy !) I know VNC since a lot of time, but use it in my company recently. Hmmm, that's all for the moment ! Best Regards, Anthony. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Krala" To: Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 7:18 PM Subject: Re: FW: Silent Installation of WinVNC problem... > It sounds like an NT rights issue- depending upon how things are > configured, the setup may be running without the necessary rights to > write to the disk- hence the disappearing act. > > As a test- log in as someone whom you know has Administrator rights on > the workstation in question. It is runs OK, it suggests a permissions > thing. How that would be resolved would depend on how things are set up > on the network. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: TURNER Chris > Date: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:58 pm > Subject: FW: Silent Installation of WinVNC problem... > > > Hi, > > > > Just wondering if anyone has any suggestions about this problem > > posted on > > 24/08/01 (detailed below)... > > > > Cheers - Chris. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: TURNER Chris > > > Sent: 24 August 2001 16:48 > > > To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' > > > Subject: Silent Installation of WinVNC problem... > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm trying to remotely install WinVNC to Windows NT 4.0 > > workstations via a > > > DOS login script. I've managed to generate a silent install > > response file > > > (setup.iss) by running the Installshield program with the -r > > switch, then > > > using the response file to do the silent install, i.e.: > > > > > > \setup.exe /S /h1[\setup.iss] > > > > > > On attempting to use it, it installs like a dream, but then after > > > observing the files as copied to their respective directory for > > about a > > > couple of seconds, they disappear! Running through the installer > > without> the silent response file in the same context works fine > > and the program > > > remains installed, but the silent installation does not persist. > > > > > > I've searched the Installshield knowledgebase > > (support.installshield.com)> and the VNC mailing list, but with no > > joy. Has anyone else come across > > > this and if so, any ideas?? > > > > > > Chris. > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > > The content of this email is confidential and is the property > > of Snamprogetti Ltd. who will safeguard its rights according > > to the civil and penal provisions of the law. The content > > may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than the > > addressees. If you have received this in error, please > > contact us immediately. > > > > Snamprogetti cannot accept any responsibility for the > > accuracy or completeness of this message as it has been > > transmitted over a public network. If you suspect that the > > message may have been intercepted or amended, please > > call +44 (0) 1256 461211. > > ********************************************************************** > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ian@canvey.com Mon Sep 10 21:46:15 2001 From: ian@canvey.com (Ian Walmsley) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:46:15 +0000 Subject: General Set-up Query - between London & Florida! In-Reply-To: <000901c13a22$b230db90$84061fac@tr3789> Message-ID: <007f01c13a30$ddf35ec0$0200a8c0@IANLAPTOP> Hi Folks, I am new around here, so I will apologise in advance ;-) I have read through the various manuals, and run through a few posts in the archive, and I think I know the answers, but before I start I really need to check things out!! This is the scenario... My client has a LAN here in London, which consists of a server, connecting to the outside world, and another 5 machines sharing that ADSL Connection, using at the moment Wingate (but will soon all go direct). Now my client also has a house in Florida (lucky sod), connecting to the internet via another ADSL link, and he wishes to use the software that is sitting on the LAN back in the office, the applications will only run from the LAN, and cannot be run from another machine, due to the data being on the LAN (i.e. accounts etc.) Now he would like me to go to Florida, and set his PC up there, so that he can run all his software applications as if he was there in the office. The server on the LAN runs Win2000 advanced server, the PC runs Win 95 or Win98 on the LAN, and AFAIK the PC in Florida is either Win95 or 98 (not 2000). The server has a static IP, the PC in London also has a static IP, but a private one 10.57.225.xx. The PC in Florida has a dynamic one. --------- My Questions.... Can we run WinVNC to make all this work? Are there any problems that you foresee? (My client can just about turn on the PC, and operate his software, he cannot configure it!!) I will have to go to Florida to configure the client end - obviously I will not be able to pop back easily to adjust the server end!! - So I need to get everything clear before I go... Any assistance you can give would be appreciated. Thank you in advance, Ian. 0845 345 8888 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ptran@callcomm.com Mon Sep 10 23:50:15 2001 From: ptran@callcomm.com (Philip Tran) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 22:50:15 +0000 Subject: version 3.3.3r9 Message-ID: <006101c13a41$cd0c38a0$aa259440@ESNIRVNTW1> Hi all, I just install the new version of VNC (r9) on two PCs (one did not have the old version of VNC, and one had--uninstalled before installed), but VNC does not save the password after I restart the PCs (older version does). After restarting the PC, I cannot remotely log in VNC because there is no password saved. Does anyone have that problem and how did you solve it? Thank you in advance. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Ernie.Oporto@viragelogic.com Mon Sep 10 23:50:23 2001 From: Ernie.Oporto@viragelogic.com (Ernie Oporto) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 22:50:23 +0000 Subject: SUMMARY: Screen capture In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I ended up getting a program called AutoIt (http://www.hiddensoft.com/AutoIt/) to do this script which snaps a screen capture of just the application window, and then saves it into an area of the web server. A PHP page there displays the images with a timestamp of the last time the image changed. A bit of a kludge, but it seems to be working nicely right now. It only works with IE as the web browser at the moment, but my next step is to add a line to convert to jpg so everyone can view it. Ernie farm.aut: --------- start: IfWinExist, simulation, simulation in progress, Goto, snap ; if we get here, smartspice is not running on the screen ; copy the "No Simulation Window" bitmap Run, xcopy "G:\\web\\server\\farm\\no_sim.bmp" "G:\\web\\server\\farm\\%ComputerName%.bmp" /cevyq Goto, end snap: WinActivate, simulation WinWait, simulation SEND, #{ALTDOWN}#{PRINTSCREEN}#{ALTUP} SLEEP, 2000 WinMaximize, untitled - Paint WinWaitActive, untitled - Paint SLEEP, 2000 SEND, #{CTRLDOWN}#v#{CTRLUP} SEND, #{ALTDOWN}#f#{ALTUP}#s SEND, "G:\\web\\server\\farm\\%ComputerName%.bmp"#{ENTER}#{TAB}#{ENTER} SLEEP, 2000 SEND, #{CTRLDOWN}#n#{CTRLUP} SLEEP, 2000 WinMinimize, untitled - Paint Goto, end index.php: ---------- server status " . $machinename . "
"; echo "
"; echo "last changed: " . figuredatetime(filemtime($machinename . ".bmp")); echo ""; } ?>
> -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Ernie Oporto > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 4:17 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Screen capture > > > I'm interested in whether anyone knows of a Win32 app that connects to > machines running VNCserver and captures an image of the screen to > save to a > file. > > My main interest is taking images of screens on a Win2k server farm and > putting them where they can be accessed by a web server. I've > been asked to > allow users to directly connect to the vncservers on those > machines so they > can check on the status of running jobs, but I know they'll all be > perpetually connected and possibly playing with the setup of the machines. > > Alternately, if someone knows of a screencap tool that can run at a > commandline, I could just use the Task Scheduler to get the pic every 5 > minutes. > > -- > Ernest A. Oporto, Systems Administrator > Virage Logic Corporation > http://www.viragelogic.com > Perryville Corporate Park, Bldg 3, Clinton, NJ 08809 > Phone:(908)735-1932 Fax:(908)735-1999 > mailto:Ernie.Oporto@viragelogic.com > > [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which > had a name of Ernie Oporto.vcf] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From theodorechou@yahoo.com Tue Sep 11 00:17:17 2001 From: theodorechou@yahoo.com (Theodore Chou) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 23:17:17 +0000 Subject: VNC as a service In-Reply-To: <3A8A2FD48D7BD211A44F00A0C9604A753C2228@mail.microlinkinc.c om> Message-ID: <3A8A2FD48D7BD211A44F00A0C9604A7532BB1D@mail.microlinkinc.co m> WINVNC -install -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On Behalf Of Helm, Douglas Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:03 AM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: VNC as a service Is there a way to install VNC as a service WITHOUT having to install it to the Start Menu first? Command line option? TIA, Doug --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ian@iancowley.co.uk Tue Sep 11 00:56:48 2001 From: ian@iancowley.co.uk (Ian Cowley) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 23:56:48 +0000 Subject: Silent Installation of WinVNC problem... In-Reply-To: <31D6884459B6D411AD4D00508BB1B0C71C4421@SPSV0054> Message-ID: <000001c13a4b$81d7b440$f3e7193e@christs.cam.ac.uk> Hmm, the way I discovered of doing it ran thusly: Use rsetup from the NT4 Server Resourse kit to remotely install Rconsole on the target machine. Run rconsole - this runs a silent dos prompt on the target machinbe, and you can specify to do It with admin rights Inside said dos prompt, run a batch file with the following: Copy files (exe, dll, directory structure insode \program files) from a shared server folder somewhere run regedit /s vnc.reg (where vnc.reg is an exported .reg of the settings from a clean machine with VNC setup as preferred - this includes the password setting :) run winvnc -install Because it all runs as administraor on the target machine, no rights issues incur. Only works on a domain, but is brilliant, 'cos it's all totally remote. I used it to install VNC(fully configured) on a machine that I had never even seen, 200 miels away in one of our other offices, across the company WAN. I can probab;ly remmeber details of the batch fiels if pressed -- Ian Cowley > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On Behalf Of TURNER Chris > Sent: Monday 10 September 2001 17:58 > To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' > Subject: FW: Silent Installation of WinVNC problem... > > > Hi, > > Just wondering if anyone has any suggestions about this > problem posted on 24/08/01 (detailed below)... > > Cheers - Chris. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: TURNER Chris > > Sent: 24 August 2001 16:48 > > To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' > > Subject: Silent Installation of WinVNC problem... > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying to remotely install WinVNC to Windows NT 4.0 > workstations > > via a DOS login script. I've managed to generate a silent install > > response file > > (setup.iss) by running the Installshield program with the > -r switch, then > > using the response file to do the silent install, i.e.: > > > > \setup.exe /S /h1[\setup.iss] > > > > On attempting to use it, it installs like a dream, but then after > > observing the files as copied to their respective directory > for about > > a couple of seconds, they disappear! Running through the installer > > without the silent response file in the same context works fine and > > the program remains installed, but the silent installation does not > > persist. > > > > I've searched the Installshield knowledgebase > > (support.installshield.com) and the VNC mailing list, but > with no joy. > > Has anyone else come across this and if so, any ideas?? > > > > Chris. > > > ********************************************************************** > The content of this email is confidential and is the property > of Snamprogetti Ltd. who will safeguard its rights according > to the civil and penal provisions of the law. The content > may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than the > addressees. If you have received this in error, please > contact us immediately. > > Snamprogetti cannot accept any responsibility for the > accuracy or completeness of this message as it has been > transmitted over a public network. If you suspect that the > message may have been intercepted or amended, please > call +44 (0) 1256 461211. > ********************************************************************** > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe > vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.htm> l > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From mvalley@azerity.com Tue Sep 11 01:53:58 2001 From: mvalley@azerity.com (Mike Valley) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 00:53:58 +0000 Subject: Massive unanswerable problem with CDE & VNC. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've been having a problem with VNC with Solaris 8 that has been driving me CRAZY. Here is the scoop: I'm trying to run CDE over VNC. I cannot get it to work. The consistent error I always receive in startlog is: /usr/dt/bin/dthello: display unix:1.0 doesn't know font -dt-interface system-med ium-r-normal-l*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* /usr/dt/bin/dthello: display unix:1.0 doesn't know font fixed the startup continues, but no window manager load and if I try to start an application like dtpad, I get: --------- Warning: Cannot convert string "Escape,_Key_Cancel" to type VirtualBinding Warning: Cannot convert string "Home,_Key_Begin" to type VirtualBinding Warning: Cannot convert string "F1,_Key_Help" to type VirtualBinding Warning: Cannot convert string "ShiftF10,_Key_Menu" to type VirtualBinding Warning: Cannot convert string "F10,Shift_Key_Menu" to type VirtualBinding Warning: Cannot convert string "KP_Enter,_Key_Execute" to type VirtualBindi ng Warning: Cannot convert string "AltReturn,Alt_Key_KP_Enter" to type Virtual Binding Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion Warning: Cannot convert string "-dt-interface system-medium-r-normal-s*-*-*-*-*- *-*-*-*" to type FontSet Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset Warning: Name: FONTLIST_DEFAULT_TAG_STRING Class: XmRendition Conversion failed. Cannot load font. Warning: Name: FONTLIST_DEFAULT_TAG_STRING Class: XmRendition Conversion failed. Cannot load font. Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion Warning: Cannot convert string "-dt-interface user-medium-r-normal-s*-*-*-*-*-*- *-*-*" to type FontSet Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset Warning: Name: FONTLIST_DEFAULT_TAG_STRING Class: XmRendition Conversion failed. Cannot load font. ------------- I'm running Xsession & in ~/.vnc/xstartup: according to xset, the font path is: Font Path: /usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/F3bitmaps/,/usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr /o penwin/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/openwin/l ib/X 11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,/usr/openwin/lib/X11/font s/Xt +/ I have tried running XFS and setting the font path to :tcp/localhost:7100. Still no luck. I'm out of ideas. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance, Mike --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From green.ian.p@edumail.vic.gov.au Tue Sep 11 02:56:24 2001 From: green.ian.p@edumail.vic.gov.au (Green, Ian P) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 01:56:24 +0000 Subject: version 3.3.3r9 Message-ID: <6794034576EDBE4191226021E2F8E8596FEAF0@edu001ms009.educatio n.vic.gov.au> I'm not exactly sure right now which version of the server I am running (the viewer is 3.3.3.3), but I exported the registry settings having set one up, which includes the password. I run the .reg file first, then copy the files in the 'Program Files' ORL folder and run the shortcut "install WinVNC as a service". No trouble with passwords since then, but I am also running a .reg (registry) file (details found by searching the FAQ) that stops the user changing the settings (including password). Regards, Ian Green -----Original Message----- From: Philip Tran To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Sent: 11/09/2001 7:44 AM Subject: version 3.3.3r9 I just install the new version of VNC (r9) on two PCs (one did not have the old version of VNC, and one had--uninstalled before installed), but VNC does not save the password after I restart the PCs (older version does). After restarting the PC, I cannot remotely log in VNC because there is no password saved. ******************************************************************************* Important - This email and any attachments may be confidential. If received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to resupplying any affected attachments. Any representations or opinions expressed are those of the individual sender, and not necessarily those of the Department of Education Employment and Training. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From green.ian.p@edumail.vic.gov.au Tue Sep 11 08:31:15 2001 From: green.ian.p@edumail.vic.gov.au (Green, Ian P) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 07:31:15 +0000 Subject: Auto logout on disconnect view only session Message-ID: <6794034576EDBE4191226021E2F8E8596FEAF2@edu001ms009.educatio n.vic.gov.au> For the sake of ensuring that I don't leave a vnc server workstation running logged in as administrator I have implemented the registry fix found either here or in the FAQ that logs out the computer running VNC Server in the event that a VNC session is terminated. This is fine, but when I connect in view only mode in order to check whether the computer is available to be remotely worked on, if I find someone already using it, I want to be able to disconnect *without* logging them out. Does anyone have any modified registry entries for this? ******************************************************************************* Important - This email and any attachments may be confidential. If received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to resupplying any affected attachments. Any representations or opinions expressed are those of the individual sender, and not necessarily those of the Department of Education Employment and Training. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From green.ian.p@edumail.vic.gov.au Tue Sep 11 08:34:50 2001 From: green.ian.p@edumail.vic.gov.au (Green, Ian P) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 07:34:50 +0000 Subject: Hide local desktop or present a message Message-ID: <6794034576EDBE4191226021E2F8E8596FEAF3@edu001ms009.educatio n.vic.gov.au> When I take control of a VNC Server I would ideally like to have a message appear on the local workstation (in lieu of what is actually going on) that tells anyone who may arrive at the workstation running VNC Server, that may try to take control of the computer, or who will simply reboot it (eg. hit the reset or power button) because it is not doing what they want. The message should say something like "This workstation is being remotely worked on. Please wait." Anyone got a registry fix for this? ******************************************************************************* Important - This email and any attachments may be confidential. If received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to resupplying any affected attachments. Any representations or opinions expressed are those of the individual sender, and not necessarily those of the Department of Education Employment and Training. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From I.Kaijen@holec.nl Tue Sep 11 09:18:21 2001 From: I.Kaijen@holec.nl (Kaijen, I.) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:18:21 +0000 Subject: connection with w2k on a notebook keeps failing Message-ID: Hello, Tnx for your help, but i do have the same password everywhere, but it still doesn't work with me.. Bye. .. . --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From stefane_bridy@yahoo.com Tue Sep 11 09:46:21 2001 From: stefane_bridy@yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Stefane=20Bridy?=) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:46:21 +0000 Subject: Why "IdleTimeout" deactivated by "Poll Full Screen", is it normal? Message-ID: <20010911074221.88037.qmail@web11603.mail.yahoo.com> Can anyone tell me if it's normal that when "Poll Full Screen" is activated, the connection is never deactivated after IdleTimeout ? I tried to look into the source files, but as I expected, it's far away from Access Visual Basic and I didn't understand anything. Can someone tell me if it's wanted or a bug that can easily be fixed ? Hope someone will finally help ... Thanx _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Construye tu pagina personal en Yahoo! GeoCities. !Es facil, rapido y gratis! http://geocities.yahoo.com.mx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From dwyllie@s-un.co.uk Tue Sep 11 10:21:56 2001 From: dwyllie@s-un.co.uk (Daniel Wyllie) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:21:56 +0000 Subject: Why "IdleTimeout" deactivated by "Poll Full Screen", is it normal? In-Reply-To: <20010911074221.88037.qmail@web11603.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000801c13a99$18fc9be0$1fab0180@systemsx> Hi, I have personally never used the "Poll Full Screen" option, but it sounds as though the Server is constantly a full screen refresh to the client. I have no idea how often it does this, but i think that the server is sending it's refresh back to the client, before it has time to "timeout". So once it sends it's refresh, the timeout counter is reset and it starts to countdown again.? Hm, that all sounded fine when I was thinking about it, hope it's not confusing! Regards, Dan -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Stefane Bridy Sent: 11 September 2001 08:42 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Why "IdleTimeout" deactivated by "Poll Full Screen", is it normal? Can anyone tell me if it's normal that when "Poll Full Screen" is activated, the connection is never deactivated after IdleTimeout ? I tried to look into the source files, but as I expected, it's far away from Access Visual Basic and I didn't understand anything. Can someone tell me if it's wanted or a bug that can easily be fixed ? Hope someone will finally help ... Thanx _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Construye tu pagina personal en Yahoo! GeoCities. !Es facil, rapido y gratis! http://geocities.yahoo.com.mx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From louis@webtedium.com Tue Sep 11 10:37:45 2001 From: louis@webtedium.com (Louis Sabet) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:37:45 +0000 Subject: Massive unanswerable problem with CDE & VNC. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've been having a similar problem with my OpenBSD machine. I posted to this list a while ago, and have also seen another post recently relating to font errors on Unix. Unfortunately it appears there is nobody here who knows anything about the Xvnc server. Is there another list we should be posting to? Or some other way we can get help? Thanks, Louis > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Mike Valley > Sent: 11 September 2001 00:54 > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Massive unanswerable problem with CDE & VNC. > > > I've been having a problem with VNC with Solaris 8 that has been > driving me > CRAZY. Here is the scoop: > > I'm trying to run CDE over VNC. I cannot get it to work. > > The consistent error I always receive in startlog is: > /usr/dt/bin/dthello: display unix:1.0 doesn't know font -dt-interface > system-med > ium-r-normal-l*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > /usr/dt/bin/dthello: display unix:1.0 doesn't know font fixed > > the startup continues, but no window manager load and if I try to start an > application like dtpad, I get: > > --------- > Warning: Cannot convert string "Escape,_Key_Cancel" to type > VirtualBinding > Warning: Cannot convert string "Home,_Key_Begin" to type > VirtualBinding > Warning: Cannot convert string "F1,_Key_Help" to type VirtualBinding > Warning: Cannot convert string "ShiftF10,_Key_Menu" to type > VirtualBinding > Warning: Cannot convert string "F10,Shift_Key_Menu" to type > VirtualBinding > Warning: Cannot convert string "KP_Enter,_Key_Execute" to type > VirtualBindi > ng > Warning: Cannot convert string "AltReturn,Alt_Key_KP_Enter" to type > Virtual > Binding > Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion > Warning: Cannot convert string "-dt-interface > system-medium-r-normal-s*-*-*-*-*- > *-*-*-*" to type FontSet > Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion > Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset > Warning: > Name: FONTLIST_DEFAULT_TAG_STRING > Class: XmRendition > Conversion failed. Cannot load font. > > Warning: > Name: FONTLIST_DEFAULT_TAG_STRING > Class: XmRendition > Conversion failed. Cannot load font. > > Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion > Warning: Cannot convert string "-dt-interface > user-medium-r-normal-s*-*-*-*-*-*- > *-*-*" to type FontSet > Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion > Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset > Warning: > Name: FONTLIST_DEFAULT_TAG_STRING > Class: XmRendition > Conversion failed. Cannot load font. > ------------- > > > I'm running Xsession & in ~/.vnc/xstartup: > > > according to xset, the font path is: > Font Path: > > /usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/F3bitmaps/,/usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/T > ype1/,/usr > /o > penwin/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr > /openwin/l > ib/X > 11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,/usr/openwin/li > b/X11/font > s/Xt > +/ > > > I have tried running XFS and setting the font path to :tcp/localhost:7100. > Still no luck. > > > I'm out of ideas. Can anyone help? > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > Mike > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From andreas.nilsson@sp.se Tue Sep 11 10:37:47 2001 From: andreas.nilsson@sp.se (Andreas Nilsson) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:37:47 +0000 Subject: ALT+PRINTSCREEN problem Message-ID: <282D532E60C7D211AEAB0008C7092A504610E9@spannen.sp.se> Hi folks, Why can't I use ALT+PRINTSCREEN to copy windows on the server PC to the clipboard. The whole VNCViewer window gets copied instead. Please, let me hear from you if you have any tips! I have two PC:s with Windows98, WinVNC 3.3.3 R7 as server and VNCVieweer 3.3.3 R2. Andreas Nilsson, System Development Engineer SP Swedish National Testing and Research Institute Measurement Technology, Electric Power Brinellgatan 4, P.O. Box 857, S-501 15 BORES, Sweden Tel: +46 (0)33-16 50 00, (direct) +46 (0)33-16 56 41 Telefax: +46 (0)33-16 56 20, mailto:Andreas.Nilsson@sp.se Home page: http://www.sp.se/metrology/ ########################################### This message has been scanned by F-Secure Anti-Virus for Microsoft Exchange. For more information, connect to http://www.F-Secure.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ddyer@real-me.net Tue Sep 11 11:31:08 2001 From: ddyer@real-me.net (Dave Dyer) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:31:08 +0000 Subject: vnc with zebedee integration Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20010911022050.02bc4d50@pop.we.mediaone.net> I'm working on a project to integrate zebedee secure tunneling into VNC client and server. Instead of vnc server <> zebedee server <> zebedee client <> vnc client it will be possible to run zeevnc server <> zebedee client <> vnc client or vnc server <> zebedee server <> zeevnc client or zeevnc server <> zeevnc client .. all open source, naturally, but if you would like to be an early adopter/tester, drop me a line. --- Note my new, preferred email address: ddyer@real-me.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From phil@chipperfields.net Tue Sep 11 11:33:54 2001 From: phil@chipperfields.net (Phil Macleod) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:33:54 +0000 Subject: No subject References: Message-ID: <003201c13aa3$c26406a0$0ab7eec3@chipperfield.co.uk> Hi am new to all this mailer stuff.... I have a nokia 9210, which runs the Symbian platform. Are there any vnc clients available ? The standard EPOC does not work. If not how do i go about creating one ? Cheers Phil ###################################################################### Attention: This e-mail message is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please delete the message and notify the sender. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author. This e-mail has been scanned and cleared by MailMarshal www.marshalsoftware.com. ###################################################################### --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Stan.Sparks@uk.med.navy.mil Tue Sep 11 11:34:02 2001 From: Stan.Sparks@uk.med.navy.mil (Sparks, Stanley, CIV) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:34:02 +0000 Subject: IP ADDRESS TEMPLATES FOR VNC (AS A SERVICE) Message-ID: <2FAD71154F27D511A3130002B32C1F5E274DAE@nmcl-lond-exch1.med. navy.mil> Hello, everyone. I want to install VNC as a service and restrict access to certain IP addresses only. Have tried creating an AuthHosts entry in the registry with + but, whatever I do, I can't seem to block any IP's. I'm new to registry editing, so this may be the root of my problem. Can anyone help, please, preferrably with a step-by-step dummies guide to making the registry changes necessary? Stan Sparks, --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From BoivinP@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca Tue Sep 11 12:47:32 2001 From: BoivinP@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca (Boivin, Patrice J) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:47:32 +0000 Subject: java.io.IOException: Your connection has been rejected Message-ID: The only response I had so far was "which ports do you use?". Are we the only ones who have this problem running VNC? What errors to people tend to see when something is not configured properly on the firewall to let VNC through? Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Acting Head Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systhmes Technology Services | Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Rigion des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: boivinp@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca -----Original Message----- From: Boivin, Patrice J [SMTP:BoivinP@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:43 AM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: java.io.IOException: Your connection has been rejected Hi, I just joined the list, and am a newbie at VNC. I searched the FAQ and the documentation, but couldn't find a reference to this error. We have a number of NT servers inside and outside our firewall. I added the IP address of the machines that ought to have access to VNC on one server in the registry on that VNC server. We find that when we try to access the VNC server via Web browser from one machine, we can authenticate and see the console for the VNC Server. When we try to connect via browser from the other NT servers on the IP list in the VNC server, * the browser loads the java applet that prompts for the password. * We click on the button, then get the following error: Java.io.IOException: Your connection has been rejected. We thought for a while this had to do with the firewall, but the firewall logs show the VNC server and the NT server talking to each other on both ports. It seems that once we submit a password to authenticate, the VNC Server is either not able to talk to some machines, or is not able to open a channel to "feed" the console picture to the other NT server. I tried playing with the video settings, i.e. ensure that the NT server has a higher resolution than the VNC server. Has anyone seen this error? TIA Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Acting Head Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systhmes Technology Services | Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Rigion des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: boivinp@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From wilmar.perez@caribe.udea.edu.co Tue Sep 11 14:13:42 2001 From: wilmar.perez@caribe.udea.edu.co (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Wilmar_P=E9rez?=) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:13:42 +0000 Subject: How to actually start VNC Message-ID: <000201c13abb$53e50d60$fd49a8c0@babel> Hello guys I think this question may have been asked many times but I couldn't find the answer in the FAQ. The thing is that I've got a server which is suppose to be running as a vnc server ----------------------------------------------------------- Wilmar Pirez IT Manager Library System Medellmn - Colombia ++57(4)2105145 ----------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From stefane_bridy@yahoo.com Tue Sep 11 14:27:53 2001 From: stefane_bridy@yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Stefane=20Bridy?=) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:27:53 +0000 Subject: Why "IdleTimeout" deactivated by "Poll Full Screen", is it normal? In-Reply-To: <000801c13a99$18fc9be0$1fab0180@systemsx> Message-ID: <20010911122455.30441.qmail@web11602.mail.yahoo.com> I guessed so, but if it's so, it should be the same for every polling option! As only the polling area changes, but not the process. Polling occurs frequently, for with IdleTimeout as small as 3 seconds, it still doesn't work. I really seems to indicate a kind of bug, but it seems no one who knows how to fix it cares about it :-( --- Daniel Wyllie escribis: > Hi, > > I have personally never used the "Poll Full Screen" option, > but it > sounds as though the Server is constantly a full screen > refresh to > the client. I have no idea how often it does this, but i think > that > the server is sending it's refresh back to the client, before > it has > time to "timeout". So once it sends it's refresh, the timeout > counter > is reset and it starts to countdown again.? > > Hm, that all sounded fine when I was thinking about it, hope > it's > not confusing! > > Regards, > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of > Stefane Bridy > Sent: 11 September 2001 08:42 AM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Why "IdleTimeout" deactivated by "Poll Full Screen", > is it > normal? > > > Can anyone tell me if it's normal that when "Poll Full Screen" > is activated, the connection is never deactivated after > IdleTimeout ? > > I tried to look into the source files, but as I expected, it's > far away from Access Visual Basic and I didn't understand > anything. > > Can someone tell me if it's wanted or a bug that can easily be > fixed ? > > Hope someone will finally help ... > > Thanx > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Construye tu pagina personal en Yahoo! GeoCities. !Es facil, > rapido y gratis! http://geocities.yahoo.com.mx > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe > vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe > vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Construye tu pagina personal en Yahoo! GeoCities. !Es facil, rapido y gratis! http://geocities.yahoo.com.mx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Tue Sep 11 14:51:48 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:51:48 +0000 Subject: ALT+PRINTSCREEN problem Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04DB7@QMAIL> try SHIFT+ALT+PRINTSCREEN - SHIFT+"meta keys" usually broadcast that keystroke to the "server" system. -----Original Message----- From: Andreas Nilsson [mailto:andreas.nilsson@sp.se] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:32 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: ALT+PRINTSCREEN problem Hi folks, Why can't I use ALT+PRINTSCREEN to copy windows on the server PC to the clipboard. The whole VNCViewer window gets copied instead. Please, let me hear from you if you have any tips! I have two PC:s with Windows98, WinVNC 3.3.3 R7 as server and VNCVieweer 3.3.3 R2. Andreas Nilsson, System Development Engineer SP Swedish National Testing and Research Institute Measurement Technology, Electric Power Brinellgatan 4, P.O. Box 857, S-501 15 BORES, Sweden Tel: +46 (0)33-16 50 00, (direct) +46 (0)33-16 56 41 Telefax: +46 (0)33-16 56 20, mailto:Andreas.Nilsson@sp.se Home page: http://www.sp.se/metrology/ ########################################### This message has been scanned by F-Secure Anti-Virus for Microsoft Exchange. For more information, connect to http://www.F-Secure.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From LKTURNE@westvaco.com Tue Sep 11 14:51:50 2001 From: LKTURNE@westvaco.com (Larry K. Turner) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:51:50 +0000 Subject: VNC Server Fails Message-ID: I got it to work by uninstalling the PalmVNC (I found the uninstall), removing all references to WinVNC or ORL in the registry (except the LegacyVNC stuff) and re-installing the C: drive (it would not run from D:). I find it strange that it will not run on D: on my machine, but it works fine from D: on a co-workers?!?!?!?! Larry ============================================================ I get the following error when I restart my NT4 machine. The VNC Server service failed to start due to the following error: Access is denied. Any advice would be appreciated. Larry --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Tue Sep 11 14:57:14 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:57:14 +0000 Subject: vnc with zebedee integration Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04DB8@QMAIL> Cool!! I've got winvnc+zebedee implemented now, if you can make this work reliably, this would make my life easier. A suggestion: can you please include some of the add-ons Const Kaplinsky has added, specifically tight encoding and jpeg compression?? Drop me a win32 copy when you've got it, gmabbutt@quartetservice.com. Thanks, Glenn -----Original Message----- From: Dave Dyer [mailto:ddyer@real-me.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:29 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: vnc with zebedee integration I'm working on a project to integrate zebedee secure tunneling into VNC client and server. Instead of vnc server <> zebedee server <> zebedee client <> vnc client it will be possible to run zeevnc server <> zebedee client <> vnc client or vnc server <> zebedee server <> zeevnc client or zeevnc server <> zeevnc client .. all open source, naturally, but if you would like to be an early adopter/tester, drop me a line. --- Note my new, preferred email address: ddyer@real-me.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Tue Sep 11 14:58:21 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:58:21 +0000 Subject: IP ADDRESS TEMPLATES FOR VNC (AS A SERVICE) Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04DB9@QMAIL> The AuthHosts syntax would be "-:+". -----Original Message----- From: Sparks, Stanley, CIV [mailto:Stan.Sparks@uk.med.navy.mil] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:30 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: IP ADDRESS TEMPLATES FOR VNC (AS A SERVICE) Hello, everyone. I want to install VNC as a service and restrict access to certain IP addresses only. Have tried creating an AuthHosts entry in the registry with + but, whatever I do, I can't seem to block any IP's. I'm new to registry editing, so this may be the root of my problem. Can anyone help, please, preferrably with a step-by-step dummies guide to making the registry changes necessary? Stan Sparks, --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From DavidB@mail.interclean.com Tue Sep 11 15:05:16 2001 From: DavidB@mail.interclean.com (David Brodbeck) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:05:16 +0000 Subject: ALT+PRINTSCREEN problem Message-ID: If that doesn't work, select "Alt Down" from the VNC viewer's title bar menu, press PRINTSCREEN, then select "Alt Up" from the menu. -----Original Message----- From: Glenn Mabbutt [mailto:gmabbutt@quartetservice.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:46 AM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: ALT+PRINTSCREEN problem try SHIFT+ALT+PRINTSCREEN - SHIFT+"meta keys" usually broadcast that keystroke to the "server" system. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From david.m.fisher@eds.com Tue Sep 11 15:13:06 2001 From: david.m.fisher@eds.com (Fisher, Dave) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:13:06 +0000 Subject: Hide local desktop or present a message Message-ID: <8AA870658244D4119AF600508BDF0A3604BC650F@usahm014.exmi01.ex ch.eds.com> I use VNCConnector rather than VNC Commander and it has an option to send a message. Before I Access the PC I send the message and then access the PC. I am not sure if VNC Commander has this option. Here is the Web address for VNCConnector: http://www.chronetal.co.uk/index.php?page=vncon -----Original Message----- From: Green, Ian P [mailto:green.ian.p@edumail.vic.gov.au] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:30 AM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: Hide local desktop or present a message When I take control of a VNC Server I would ideally like to have a message appear on the local workstation (in lieu of what is actually going on) that tells anyone who may arrive at the workstation running VNC Server, that may try to take control of the computer, or who will simply reboot it (eg. hit the reset or power button) because it is not doing what they want. The message should say something like "This workstation is being remotely worked on. Please wait." Anyone got a registry fix for this? **************************************************************************** *** Important - This email and any attachments may be confidential. If received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to resupplying any affected attachments. Any representations or opinions expressed are those of the individual sender, and not necessarily those of the Department of Education Employment and Training. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jmaton@viztek.net Tue Sep 11 15:13:34 2001 From: jmaton@viztek.net (Jonathan Maton) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:13:34 +0000 Subject: Hide local desktop or present a message References: <6794034576EDBE4191226021E2F8E8596FEAF3@edu001ms009.educatio n.vic.gov.au> Message-ID: <006501c13ac3$2592b590$6c886f0c@tupac> Well, the tray icon (assuming a winvnc server here) goes black... Are you requesting a message that only shows up on the server's side (i.e., not transferred to the client)? You could always set it up to disable local control (keyboard and mouse) while you're connected. And hide the power/reset buttons. ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Green, Ian P" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:30 AM Subject: Hide local desktop or present a message > When I take control of a VNC Server I would ideally like to have a message > appear on the local workstation (in lieu of what is actually going on) that > tells anyone who may arrive at the workstation running VNC Server, that may try > to take control of the computer, or who will simply reboot it (eg. hit the reset > or power button) because it is not doing what they want. > > The message should say something like "This workstation is being remotely worked > on. Please wait." > > Anyone got a registry fix for this? > > > **************************************************************************** *** > Important - This email and any attachments may be confidential. If received in > error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before opening or using > attachments check them for viruses and defects. Regardless of any loss, damage > or consequence, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not, resulting > directly or indirectly from the use of any attached files our liability is > limited to resupplying any affected attachments. Any representations or opinions > expressed are those of the individual sender, and not necessarily those of the > Department of Education Employment and Training. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jmaton@viztek.net Tue Sep 11 15:35:42 2001 From: jmaton@viztek.net (Jonathan Maton) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:35:42 +0000 Subject: General Set-up Query - between London & Florida! References: <007f01c13a30$ddf35ec0$0200a8c0@IANLAPTOP> Message-ID: <008001c13ac6$289e6790$6c886f0c@tupac> > Hi Folks, > I am new around here, so I will apologise in advance ;-) ... > Now my client also has a house in Florida (lucky sod), connecting to the Heh, I'm in Florida now, it's too damn hot and rainy! ... > The server has a static IP, the PC in London also has a static IP, but a > private one 10.57.225.xx. The PC in Florida has a dynamic one. > > --------- > > My Questions.... > > Can we run WinVNC to make all this work? Seems like it would be the best solution. > Are there any problems that you foresee? Make sure all the machines can talk to each other before you bring VNC into the equation. Check firewall setups (if any) to be sure the Florida box can actually access the server PCs. Specifically you will need access to port 5900. Now about the machines on the LAN... is WinGate doing any NAT? If you cannot directly access the machines (who are behind the wingate) from the internet, then most likely you will have to vnc into the server, and from there vnc into the individual computer on the LAN that he wishes to use. This will not be as much fun, because now you will have three mouse pointers and quite a bit of lag. Would be better to be able to either vnc directly into the boxes on the lan, or be able to run the software from the server. (By the way, when I say "vnc into the computer," I mean connect to the computer using the vncviewer client.) > (My client can just about turn on the PC, and operate his software, he > cannot configure it!!) That's fine, his requirements will be double-clicking the vncviewer icon, clicking okay (the drop-down list will store the last eight IP addresses used, so you can have the one he needs (e.g., the static server IP) already in the list), and entering a password. From there it will be as if he's sitting at the remote computer. You should probably show him the connection options screen (for the "restrict to 8-bit" option) and the "request refresh" command from the system menu. > I will have to go to Florida to configure the client end - obviously I > will not be able to pop back easily to adjust the server end!! - So I > need to get everything clear before I go... Install winvnc on all of those machines which he will want to vnc into, and set all the passwords the same (for simplicity.) Make it a service (automatic start) on the win2k machine, and put it in startup on the win9x machines. Practice connecting with the vncviewer to make sure the winvnc servers answer before you fly 1000+ miles away. :) What part of Florida? > Any assistance you can give would be appreciated. Hope that helps. > Thank you in advance, > > Ian. Your biggest problem will be wingate, I think. I don't know if it allows outside access into the machines that are behind it, or indeed how you do that (I'm assuming they don't have their own resolvable IPs). If you can route traffic according to port #, you could get creative... WinVNC has a setting called "display number"... it can be from 0-99 and actually dictates the port that WinVNC will use. (0 = 5900, 1 = 5901, etc.) So you could set each WinVNC to use a different display number and then if the wingate machine's IP is 1.2.3.4, then traffic addressed to 1.2.3.4:5901 could be directed to the machine running WinVNC with display number 1, 1.2.3.4:5902 would go to machine 2, etc. I don't know if you can do that or not... I'm just trying to think of solutions that will allow you to vnc directly into a machine on the LAN, rather than connecting to the server first, then vnc'ing from there to a machine on the LAN. Multiple connections are a try on one's patience. But perhaps the English are more patient? :) ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) ------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Noralf.Gamlem@brattvaag.no Tue Sep 11 15:39:36 2001 From: Noralf.Gamlem@brattvaag.no (Gamlem, Noralf) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:39:36 +0000 Subject: SV: ALT+PRINTSCREEN problem Message-ID: <51978B631515D411BB9800A0C929B7F82BFDA4@AB-EXCHANGE> Neither of these works (at least in a W2k environment)... :-( -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: David Brodbeck [mailto:DavidB@mail.interclean.com] Sendt: 11. september 2001 15:02 Til: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Emne: RE: ALT+PRINTSCREEN problem If that doesn't work, select "Alt Down" from the VNC viewer's title bar menu, press PRINTSCREEN, then select "Alt Up" from the menu. -----Original Message----- From: Glenn Mabbutt [mailto:gmabbutt@quartetservice.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:46 AM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: ALT+PRINTSCREEN problem try SHIFT+ALT+PRINTSCREEN - SHIFT+"meta keys" usually broadcast that keystroke to the "server" system. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From anthony.facchin@informaticien.com Tue Sep 11 15:43:33 2001 From: anthony.facchin@informaticien.com (Anthony FACCHIN) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:43:33 +0000 Subject: ALT+PRINTSCREEN problem References: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04DB7@QMAIL> Message-ID: <004401c13ac7$42043740$023211ac@otp039> In PC Anywhere 10 (and 9?), we can use the "Scroll Lock" key (...between "PrintScreen & Pause"). When this key is active, all control are sent to the server. (Alt-Tab, Alt-Esc......) It could be use in the next VNC version ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Mabbutt" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:45 PM Subject: RE: ALT+PRINTSCREEN problem > try SHIFT+ALT+PRINTSCREEN - SHIFT+"meta keys" usually broadcast that > keystroke to the "server" system. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andreas Nilsson [mailto:andreas.nilsson@sp.se] > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:32 AM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: ALT+PRINTSCREEN problem > > > Hi folks, > > Why can't I use ALT+PRINTSCREEN to copy windows on the server PC to the > clipboard. The whole VNCViewer window gets copied instead. Please, let me > hear from you if you have any tips! > > I have two PC:s with Windows98, WinVNC 3.3.3 R7 as server and VNCVieweer > 3.3.3 R2. > > Andreas Nilsson, > System Development Engineer > > SP Swedish National Testing and Research Institute > Measurement Technology, Electric Power > Brinellgatan 4, P.O. Box 857, S-501 15 BORES, Sweden > Tel: +46 (0)33-16 50 00, (direct) +46 (0)33-16 56 41 > Telefax: +46 (0)33-16 56 20, mailto:Andreas.Nilsson@sp.se > Home page: http://www.sp.se/metrology/ > > ########################################### > > This message has been scanned by F-Secure Anti-Virus for Microsoft Exchange. > For more information, connect to http://www.F-Secure.com/ > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From scfiead@hotmail.com Tue Sep 11 15:45:58 2001 From: scfiead@hotmail.com (Ryan Casey) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:45:58 +0000 Subject: Why "IdleTimeout" deactivated by "Poll Full Screen", is it normal? References: <20010911074221.88037.qmail@web11603.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Just a thought: If this is Win*, then it may have to do with the tray clock. Poll full screen should pick up that the clock number changed, and restart the counter. Not sure if this is the case, but it did occur to me. Seems like the counter should timeout if there are no events SENT to the server in the IdleTimeout time, though. Ryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefane Bridy" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:42 AM Subject: Why "IdleTimeout" deactivated by "Poll Full Screen", is it normal? > Can anyone tell me if it's normal that when "Poll Full Screen" > is activated, the connection is never deactivated after > IdleTimeout ? > > I tried to look into the source files, but as I expected, it's > far away from Access Visual Basic and I didn't understand > anything. > > Can someone tell me if it's wanted or a bug that can easily be > fixed ? > > Hope someone will finally help ... > > Thanx > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Construye tu pagina personal en Yahoo! GeoCities. !Es facil, > rapido y gratis! http://geocities.yahoo.com.mx > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From scfiead@hotmail.com Tue Sep 11 15:46:44 2001 From: scfiead@hotmail.com (Ryan Casey) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:46:44 +0000 Subject: Why "IdleTimeout" deactivated by "Poll Full Screen", is it normal? References: <20010911122455.30441.qmail@web11602.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hmmm...guess that kinda kills my theory then :) Ryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefane Bridy" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:24 AM Subject: RE: RE: Why "IdleTimeout" deactivated by "Poll Full Screen", is it normal? > I guessed so, but if it's so, it should be the same for every > polling option! As only the polling area changes, but not the > process. > > Polling occurs frequently, for with IdleTimeout as small as 3 > seconds, it still doesn't work. I really seems to indicate a > kind of bug, but it seems no one who knows how to fix it cares > about it :-( > > --- Daniel Wyllie escribis: > Hi, > > > > I have personally never used the "Poll Full Screen" option, > > but it > > sounds as though the Server is constantly a full screen > > refresh to > > the client. I have no idea how often it does this, but i think > > that > > the server is sending it's refresh back to the client, before > > it has > > time to "timeout". So once it sends it's refresh, the timeout > > counter > > is reset and it starts to countdown again.? > > > > Hm, that all sounded fine when I was thinking about it, hope > > it's > > not confusing! > > > > Regards, > > Dan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of > > Stefane Bridy > > Sent: 11 September 2001 08:42 AM > > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > Subject: Why "IdleTimeout" deactivated by "Poll Full Screen", > > is it > > normal? > > > > > > Can anyone tell me if it's normal that when "Poll Full Screen" > > is activated, the connection is never deactivated after > > IdleTimeout ? > > > > I tried to look into the source files, but as I expected, it's > > far away from Access Visual Basic and I didn't understand > > anything. > > > > Can someone tell me if it's wanted or a bug that can easily be > > fixed ? > > > > Hope someone will finally help ... > > > > Thanx > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Construye tu pagina personal en Yahoo! GeoCities. !Es facil, > > rapido y gratis! http://geocities.yahoo.com.mx > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe > > vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe > > vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Construye tu pagina personal en Yahoo! GeoCities. !Es facil, > rapido y gratis! http://geocities.yahoo.com.mx > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Tue Sep 11 16:09:55 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:09:55 +0000 Subject: Massive unanswerable problem with CDE & VNC. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000c01c13aca$a78e2500$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> This error or behavior is controlled from the -fp switch. If you read through the archives you will see that on Solaris it is -fp tcp/localhost:7100 I don't know for BSD or linux so can't say. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Louis Sabet Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:31 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Massive unanswerable problem with CDE & VNC. I've been having a similar problem with my OpenBSD machine. I posted to this list a while ago, and have also seen another post recently relating to font errors on Unix. Unfortunately it appears there is nobody here who knows anything about the Xvnc server. Is there another list we should be posting to? Or some other way we can get help? Thanks, Louis > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Mike Valley > Sent: 11 September 2001 00:54 > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Massive unanswerable problem with CDE & VNC. > > > I've been having a problem with VNC with Solaris 8 that has been > driving me > CRAZY. Here is the scoop: > > I'm trying to run CDE over VNC. I cannot get it to work. > > The consistent error I always receive in startlog is: > /usr/dt/bin/dthello: display unix:1.0 doesn't know font -dt-interface > system-med > ium-r-normal-l*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > /usr/dt/bin/dthello: display unix:1.0 doesn't know font fixed > > the startup continues, but no window manager load and if I try to start an > application like dtpad, I get: > > --------- > Warning: Cannot convert string "Escape,_Key_Cancel" to type > VirtualBinding > Warning: Cannot convert string "Home,_Key_Begin" to type > VirtualBinding > Warning: Cannot convert string "F1,_Key_Help" to type VirtualBinding > Warning: Cannot convert string "ShiftF10,_Key_Menu" to type > VirtualBinding > Warning: Cannot convert string "F10,Shift_Key_Menu" to type > VirtualBinding > Warning: Cannot convert string "KP_Enter,_Key_Execute" to type > VirtualBindi > ng > Warning: Cannot convert string "AltReturn,Alt_Key_KP_Enter" to type > Virtual > Binding > Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion > Warning: Cannot convert string "-dt-interface > system-medium-r-normal-s*-*-*-*-*- > *-*-*-*" to type FontSet > Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion > Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset > Warning: > Name: FONTLIST_DEFAULT_TAG_STRING > Class: XmRendition > Conversion failed. Cannot load font. > > Warning: > Name: FONTLIST_DEFAULT_TAG_STRING > Class: XmRendition > Conversion failed. Cannot load font. > > Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion > Warning: Cannot convert string "-dt-interface > user-medium-r-normal-s*-*-*-*-*-*- > *-*-*" to type FontSet > Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion > Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset > Warning: > Name: FONTLIST_DEFAULT_TAG_STRING > Class: XmRendition > Conversion failed. Cannot load font. > ------------- > > > I'm running Xsession & in ~/.vnc/xstartup: > > > according to xset, the font path is: > Font Path: > > /usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/F3bitmaps/,/usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/T > ype1/,/usr > /o > penwin/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr > /openwin/l > ib/X > 11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,/usr/openwin/li > b/X11/font > s/Xt > +/ > > > I have tried running XFS and setting the font path to :tcp/localhost:7100. > Still no luck. > > > I'm out of ideas. Can anyone help? > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > Mike > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From mvalley@azerity.com Tue Sep 11 18:50:42 2001 From: mvalley@azerity.com (Mike Valley) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:50:42 +0000 Subject: Massive unanswerable problem with CDE & VNC. In-Reply-To: <000c01c13aca$a78e2500$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> Message-ID: I finally was able to solve it. Thanks for everyone's response to the problem. It turns out there was some problem with XFS starting by inet.conf So, I removed XFS from inet.conf and started it manually with: "xfs -config fontserver.cfg &" I also changed fontserer.cfg to include all the font paths that were on display :0. You can do this by typing "xset -display :0 -q" and copying those font paths into fontserver.cfg. (BTW, I tried the inet.conf XFS auto start with the new font paths and it still crashed. So, the fontserver.cfg wasn't the problem.) Then I edited out the vncserver script and added "-fp tcp/localhost:7100" for the font path. After that, it worked beautifully. I suspect that there might be a problem with the fs auto start script that is run by inetd.conf because when I ran that script, vncserver would freeze when trying to access the font server. Hope this helps some other people with the problem. If you have any questions, let me know. ------ Mike Valley Network Engineer Azerity 408-324-2300x132 -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Steve Palocz Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 7:04 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Massive unanswerable problem with CDE & VNC. This error or behavior is controlled from the -fp switch. If you read through the archives you will see that on Solaris it is -fp tcp/localhost:7100 I don't know for BSD or linux so can't say. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Louis Sabet Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:31 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Massive unanswerable problem with CDE & VNC. I've been having a similar problem with my OpenBSD machine. I posted to this list a while ago, and have also seen another post recently relating to font errors on Unix. Unfortunately it appears there is nobody here who knows anything about the Xvnc server. Is there another list we should be posting to? Or some other way we can get help? Thanks, Louis > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Mike Valley > Sent: 11 September 2001 00:54 > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Massive unanswerable problem with CDE & VNC. > > > I've been having a problem with VNC with Solaris 8 that has been > driving me > CRAZY. Here is the scoop: > > I'm trying to run CDE over VNC. I cannot get it to work. > > The consistent error I always receive in startlog is: > /usr/dt/bin/dthello: display unix:1.0 doesn't know font -dt-interface > system-med > ium-r-normal-l*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > /usr/dt/bin/dthello: display unix:1.0 doesn't know font fixed > > the startup continues, but no window manager load and if I try to start an > application like dtpad, I get: > > --------- > Warning: Cannot convert string "Escape,_Key_Cancel" to type > VirtualBinding > Warning: Cannot convert string "Home,_Key_Begin" to type > VirtualBinding > Warning: Cannot convert string "F1,_Key_Help" to type VirtualBinding > Warning: Cannot convert string "ShiftF10,_Key_Menu" to type > VirtualBinding > Warning: Cannot convert string "F10,Shift_Key_Menu" to type > VirtualBinding > Warning: Cannot convert string "KP_Enter,_Key_Execute" to type > VirtualBindi > ng > Warning: Cannot convert string "AltReturn,Alt_Key_KP_Enter" to type > Virtual > Binding > Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion > Warning: Cannot convert string "-dt-interface > system-medium-r-normal-s*-*-*-*-*- > *-*-*-*" to type FontSet > Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion > Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset > Warning: > Name: FONTLIST_DEFAULT_TAG_STRING > Class: XmRendition > Conversion failed. Cannot load font. > > Warning: > Name: FONTLIST_DEFAULT_TAG_STRING > Class: XmRendition > Conversion failed. Cannot load font. > > Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion > Warning: Cannot convert string "-dt-interface > user-medium-r-normal-s*-*-*-*-*-*- > *-*-*" to type FontSet > Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion > Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset > Warning: > Name: FONTLIST_DEFAULT_TAG_STRING > Class: XmRendition > Conversion failed. Cannot load font. > ------------- > > > I'm running Xsession & in ~/.vnc/xstartup: > > > according to xset, the font path is: > Font Path: > > /usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/F3bitmaps/,/usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/T > ype1/,/usr > /o > penwin/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr > /openwin/l > ib/X > 11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,/usr/openwin/li > b/X11/font > s/Xt > +/ > > > I have tried running XFS and setting the font path to :tcp/localhost:7100. > Still no luck. > > > I'm out of ideas. Can anyone help? > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > Mike > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From lindac65@earthlink.net Tue Sep 11 22:49:23 2001 From: lindac65@earthlink.net (Linda Worthington) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:49:23 +0000 Subject: WIN 95/98 Message-ID: <001101c13b01$f3badb80$676412ac@LINDA500> Is there any way to run VNC 3.3.3 as a service on 95/98 OS? Thanks!!1 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From kevinc@dOink.COM Tue Sep 11 23:49:43 2001 From: kevinc@dOink.COM (Kevin Cosgrove) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:49:43 +0000 Subject: AW: password protected screensaver causes "connection closed by peer" Message-ID: <20010911212947.E46DA2FEA9@joseph.doink.com> I'm still trying to solve my problem here. First I had to discover that I needed to turn off all APM support on my laptop running Win2K or it would lock-up 2/3rds of the time whenever I left it running with a password protected screensaver turned on. Now that that's "solved" I'm trying to keep vncviewer (on Solaris) alive through a screenlock & unlock (on Win2K). What's this "send ctrl+alt+del" that you find in a "system menu". What "system menu"? Sorry to be dull. :-( Thanks.... On 27 August 2001 at 16:35, "Jens Treptow" wrote: There is a work around: disable password protection of the screensaver and lock the desktop manually using ++ and "Lock workstation". You also can do that when You are connected to Your server via VNC. Then You have to use the menu item "send ctrl+alt+del" from the system menu. I tried this. Works fine. Jens --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From rg200@hermes.cam.ac.uk Wed Sep 12 00:24:40 2001 From: rg200@hermes.cam.ac.uk (Russell Goyder) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:24:40 +0000 Subject: font problem? - please help Message-ID: I am trying to run vncserver (version 3.3.3-10) on Debian Potato, eventually to connect to a windows machine and vice-versa on my home network. I have tried quite a few things but to no avail, so here goes: I type "vncserver" as root. It gives: New 'X' desktop is russmachine:1 Starting applications specified in /etc/X11/Xsession Log file is /root/.vnc/russmachine:1.log which looks quite good. Then I try to connect to it with "xvncviewer russmachine:1" and I get /usr/X11R6/bin/xvncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused Unable to connect to VNC server In the file /root/.vnc/russmachine:1.log there is 11/09/01 23:01:26 Xvnc version 3.3.3 11/09/01 23:01:26 Copyright (C) 1999 AT&T Laboratories Cambridge. 11/09/01 23:01:26 All Rights Reserved. 11/09/01 23:01:26 See http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc for information on VNC 11/09/01 23:01:26 Desktop name 'X' (russmachine:1) 11/09/01 23:01:26 Protocol version supported 3.3 11/09/01 23:01:26 Listening for VNC connections on TCP port 5901 11/09/01 23:01:26 Listening for HTTP connections on TCP port 5801 11/09/01 23:01:26 URL http://russmachine:5801 failed to set default font path '' Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' Couldn't connect to russmachine:1 So maybe my problem is with fonts? The same problem occurs when I try it as a normal user (running both the server and client) with the same error. I searched the mailing list archives for fonts and the like, and found one person who appeared to have the same problem, but he fixed his by running as root, which is why I chose to in the above example. vnc looks so cool, it's fustrating to not get it working! Thanks for any help, Russell --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From mvalley@azerity.com Wed Sep 12 01:09:35 2001 From: mvalley@azerity.com (Mike Valley) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 00:09:35 +0000 Subject: font problem? - please help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: First, edit out the vncserver startup script. ( it is probably at /usr/local/bin) Find the part that has: # Add font path and color database stuff here, e.g.: # and put : $cmd .=" -fp tcp/localhost:7100"; at that location. Next, you need to find your font server. If you have already built the font server, it should be called "xfs" or "fs" After that, to start up VNC you just need to run xfs and then run vncserver. If your font server is configured correctly, it should work. ------ Mike Valley Network Engineer Azerity 408-324-2300x132 -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Russell Goyder Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:20 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: font problem? - please help I am trying to run vncserver (version 3.3.3-10) on Debian Potato, eventually to connect to a windows machine and vice-versa on my home network. I have tried quite a few things but to no avail, so here goes: I type "vncserver" as root. It gives: New 'X' desktop is russmachine:1 Starting applications specified in /etc/X11/Xsession Log file is /root/.vnc/russmachine:1.log which looks quite good. Then I try to connect to it with "xvncviewer russmachine:1" and I get /usr/X11R6/bin/xvncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused Unable to connect to VNC server In the file /root/.vnc/russmachine:1.log there is 11/09/01 23:01:26 Xvnc version 3.3.3 11/09/01 23:01:26 Copyright (C) 1999 AT&T Laboratories Cambridge. 11/09/01 23:01:26 All Rights Reserved. 11/09/01 23:01:26 See http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc for information on VNC 11/09/01 23:01:26 Desktop name 'X' (russmachine:1) 11/09/01 23:01:26 Protocol version supported 3.3 11/09/01 23:01:26 Listening for VNC connections on TCP port 5901 11/09/01 23:01:26 Listening for HTTP connections on TCP port 5801 11/09/01 23:01:26 URL http://russmachine:5801 failed to set default font path '' Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' Couldn't connect to russmachine:1 So maybe my problem is with fonts? The same problem occurs when I try it as a normal user (running both the server and client) with the same error. I searched the mailing list archives for fonts and the like, and found one person who appeared to have the same problem, but he fixed his by running as root, which is why I chose to in the above example. vnc looks so cool, it's fustrating to not get it working! Thanks for any help, Russell --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From green.ian.p@edumail.vic.gov.au Wed Sep 12 07:02:29 2001 From: green.ian.p@edumail.vic.gov.au (Green, Ian P) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 06:02:29 +0000 Subject: Hide local desktop or present a message Message-ID: <6794034576EDBE4191226021E2F8E8596FEAF4@edu001ms009.educatio n.vic.gov.au> Yes, I want the message only at the server side. I will most likely set it up to disable local control. The idea of *removing* the power and reset buttons appeals to me (if I could remotely power up or down the entire collection of variously aged computers - it ain't going to happen). I can't imagine where I could hide them (as an alternative), and I am certain that they will simply pull the power plug out if they don't know what is going on. Most are not observant enough to notice the tray icon going black. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Maton To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Sent: 9/11/2001 11:10 PM Subject: Re: Hide local desktop or present a message Well, the tray icon (assuming a winvnc server here) goes black... Are you requesting a message that only shows up on the server's side (i.e., not transferred to the client)? You could always set it up to disable local control (keyboard and mouse) while you're connected. 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Everything I try doesn't seem to work, even copying the REG settings from my NT4 station to the notbook. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From rg200@hermes.cam.ac.uk Wed Sep 12 09:43:10 2001 From: rg200@hermes.cam.ac.uk (Russell Goyder) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:43:10 +0000 Subject: font problem? - please help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for the help. I tried what you said with no luck, but in the course of looking for where to put the extra line, I figured out that when trying to set the variable $XFConfigPath, my vncserver script set it to be '/etc/X11/XF86Config' when mine is '/etc/X11/XF86Config-4'. I changed the script to the latter and it works fine. Should I do ln -s /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 /etc/X11/XF86Config for the future? Or will that just confuse things for other programs who will think that I am running X v3 (instead of 4.0.2)? Russell On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Mike Valley wrote: > First, edit out the vncserver startup script. ( it is probably at > /usr/local/bin) > > Find the part that has: > # Add font path and color database stuff here, e.g.: > # > > > and put : > > $cmd .=" -fp tcp/localhost:7100"; > > > at that location. > > Next, you need to find your font server. If you have already built the font > server, it should be called "xfs" or "fs" > > After that, to start up VNC you just need to run xfs and then run vncserver. > > If your font server is configured correctly, it should work. > > > > > ------ > Mike Valley > Network Engineer > Azerity > 408-324-2300x132 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Russell Goyder > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:20 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: font problem? - please help > > > I am trying to run vncserver (version 3.3.3-10) on Debian Potato, > eventually to connect to a windows machine and vice-versa on my home > network. I have tried quite a few things but to no avail, so here goes: > > I type "vncserver" as root. > > It gives: > > New 'X' desktop is russmachine:1 > > Starting applications specified in /etc/X11/Xsession > Log file is /root/.vnc/russmachine:1.log > > which looks quite good. > > Then I try to connect to it with "xvncviewer russmachine:1" and I get > > /usr/X11R6/bin/xvncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused > Unable to connect to VNC server > > In the file /root/.vnc/russmachine:1.log there is > > 11/09/01 23:01:26 Xvnc version 3.3.3 > 11/09/01 23:01:26 Copyright (C) 1999 AT&T Laboratories Cambridge. > 11/09/01 23:01:26 All Rights Reserved. > 11/09/01 23:01:26 See http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc for information > on VNC > 11/09/01 23:01:26 Desktop name 'X' (russmachine:1) > 11/09/01 23:01:26 Protocol version supported 3.3 > 11/09/01 23:01:26 Listening for VNC connections on TCP port 5901 > 11/09/01 23:01:26 Listening for HTTP connections on TCP port 5801 > 11/09/01 23:01:26 URL http://russmachine:5801 > failed to set default font path '' > Fatal server error: > could not open default font 'fixed' > Couldn't connect to russmachine:1 > > So maybe my problem is with fonts? The same problem occurs when I try it > as a normal user (running both the server and client) with the same error. > I searched the mailing list archives for fonts and the like, and found one > person who appeared to have the same problem, but he fixed his by running > as root, which is why I chose to in the above example. > > vnc looks so cool, it's fustrating to not get it working! Thanks for any > help, > > Russell > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From stefane_bridy@yahoo.com Wed Sep 12 09:43:34 2001 From: stefane_bridy@yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Stefane=20Bridy?=) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:43:34 +0000 Subject: AW: password protected screensaver causes "connection closed by peer" In-Reply-To: <20010911212947.E46DA2FEA9@joseph.doink.com> Message-ID: <20010912074126.54201.qmail@web11608.mail.yahoo.com> --- Kevin Cosgrove escribis: ... ... > > What's this "send ctrl+alt+del" that you find in a "system > menu". What "system menu"? Sorry to be dull. :-( That's the menu you get by right-clicking on the task bar button of the open VNC connection. BTW, the send the Ctrl+Alt+Del to the remote machine, you can also press Shift+Ctrl+Alt+Del instead of using the menu. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Construye tu pagina personal en Yahoo! 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Just select it from the admin tools menu. -----Original Message----- From: Linda Worthington [mailto:lindac65@earthlink.net] Sent: 11 September 2001 21:40 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: WIN 95/98 Is there any way to run VNC 3.3.3 as a service on 95/98 OS? Thanks!! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From mlazlo@ndc-nfi.com Wed Sep 12 14:58:08 2001 From: mlazlo@ndc-nfi.com (Mike Lazlo) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 13:58:08 +0000 Subject: Ctrl + Esc in NT Message-ID: <3B9F5A9F.5090208@ndc-nfi.com> I have seen messages about Ctrl + Esc not working in WinVnc in the NT OS. I have seen messages about people saying to add the Shift key to this sequence. This will not work because this is the shortcut for 'Windows Task Manager'. But I have just stumbled across the key sequence of 'Alt + S' which seems to work on at least WinNT machines that I have come across. If anyone is interested. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From IanF@src.co.uk Wed Sep 12 15:08:28 2001 From: IanF@src.co.uk (Ian Ferguson) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:08:28 +0000 Subject: VNC Proxy Question Message-ID: Can VNC Proxy handle connections from a browser to port 5800 on systems ? Thanks, Ian The Speech Recognition Company --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andy.Woo@ClubZ.org Wed Sep 12 15:51:01 2001 From: Andy.Woo@ClubZ.org (Andy Woo) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:51:01 +0000 Subject: Win2K, VNC, ZoneAlarm References: <01E09B4A.88186460.itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au> Message-ID: <3B9F6876.587D3BD7@ClubZ.org> Hi, I searched through the archives and saw that someone was having reboot problems with Win2K and VNC. I also noticed someone indicating that they were having problems when VNC and ZoneAlarm were combined. I have all three as part of my configuration, although I don't have the 'reboot' problem (I have a different one, since I blew away my machine, I replaced Win98 with Win2K, and I got a later version of VNC and ZoneAlarm... now when I 'restart'... the machines shuts down... goes to the dark screen... but, never re-starts back up. Similarly.... before I could 'shut down', and the machine would power itself down. Now I just get the 'it is safe to turn off your machine', and I have to physically turn the machine off). I am running VNC as a service (so that if I re-start, VNC is running and I can log in remotely. Or even if a user has logged off.... VNC is still running, so I can log back in). So what happens is... since VNC is running as a service, it starts before ZoneAlarm (which is an app, that runs after a user logs into Win2K). This causes remote access via VNC to NOT WORK. It essentially times-out or can't get in. I had a friend try to log in... he kept getting non-recognition.... and I could see his attempts at port 5800 within my firewall software. However, if I log in at the computer... (hence, VNC was running as a service, then after log in, ZoneAlarm is running) If I stop the service, and re-start the VNC as an app, VNC remote works fine. It seems like the sequence has to be ZoneAlarm (first), then VNC (second). I'm guessing that app versus service is not important... ie. if I re-started the VNC service instead of running the app., as long as it's started AFTER ZoneAlarm, I'd still be ok. Is anyone familiar with this ? Have a solution ? I want to try to retain it as a service, so that I don't have to be logged in at the computer, to get in remotely. I even thought of giving up on that, and creating a batch file, that could be run... so that ZoneAlarm starts first, then VNC... giving up on the no-user-logged-in-but-can-still-log-in-remotely scenario. I created a batch file with two lines.. the first line running ZoneAlarm, the second running VNC... but when I run the batch file... after running ZoneAlarm,... it never returns to continue to run VNC. I'm probably missing something very simple and basic. The file is pretty straigthforward : "c:\Program Files\ZoneAlarm\zonealarm.exe" -nopopup "c:\Program Files\ORL\VNC\WinVNC.exe" -run Can someone please help me out? Thanks in advance, Andy --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From egb@tonesoft.com Wed Sep 12 16:36:19 2001 From: egb@tonesoft.com (Edric Bulalacao) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 15:36:19 +0000 Subject: Massive unanswerable problem with CDE & VNC (Running VNC on Solaris) Message-ID: I've been able to run VNC on Solaris 2.6, 7, and 8 on Sparc and Intel platforms just fine. Here are instructions on how to configure VNC to run on Solaris thru inetd: Assumptions: a) VNC binaries have been successfully created and placed in /usr/local/vnc directory. b) root access to machine to be able to edit services and inetd.conf files. c) Support 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768 @ 256 color depth (change it according to your preference) d) Ports 5950, 5951, 5952 are free (change it according to your preference). e) Access control disabled (no VNC password is asked prior to connecting). Remove -ac switch if you wish access control enabled. f) No shared sessions allowed. Remove -nevershared switch to allow shared sessions. g) When a user disconnects his VNC connection, terminate the X session. Remove -once switch to allow continuation of sessions (not recommended for security!). 1. Append the following lines to your /etc/inet/services file: # VNC Server vnc-640x480x8 5950/tcp vnc-800x600x8 5951/tcp vnc-1024x768x8 5952/tcp 2. Append the following lines to your /etc/inet/inetd.conf file: # VNC Server vnc-640x480x8 stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/vnc/Xvnc-50 Xvnc vnc-800x600x8 stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/vnc/Xvnc-51 Xvnc vnc-1024x768x8 stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/vnc/Xvnc-52 Xvnc 3. Create these three script files and put them in /usr/local/vnc: Xvnc-50 ======= #!/bin/sh /usr/local/vnc/Xvnc -inetd -query localhost -once -fp tcp/localhost:7100 -geometry 640x480 -depth 8 -ac -nevershared Xvnc-51 ======= #!/bin/sh /usr/local/vnc/Xvnc -inetd -query localhost -once -fp tcp/localhost:7100 -geometry 800x600 -depth 8 -ac -nevershared Xvnc-52 ======= #!/bin/sh /usr/local/vnc/Xvnc -inetd -query localhost -once -fp tcp/localhost:7100 -geometry 1024x768 -depth 8 -ac -nevershared Note: Each script file is only 2 lines long. The second line of text is just too long to fit in the same line, but it should be in the same line. 4. Issue these commands to force inetd to re-read the new configuration (or reboot machine): ps -ef |grep inetd kill -1 PID Note: The first command will give you the process ID (PID) of inetd. The second command will issue a SIGHUP on the inetd process, where PID is the process ID from the first command. 5. Use a VNC client and point it to the machine's IP address (or hostname) and specify the desired port. Example: myserver:5951 (will connect to machine at 800x600 resolution) Done. > I've been having a problem with VNC with Solaris 8 that has been > driving me > CRAZY. Here is the scoop: > > I'm trying to run CDE over VNC. I cannot get it to work. > > The consistent error I always receive in startlog is: > /usr/dt/bin/dthello: display unix:1.0 doesn't know font -dt-interface > system-med > ium-r-normal-l*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > /usr/dt/bin/dthello: display unix:1.0 doesn't know font fixed --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From paul@paularmstrong.com Wed Sep 12 16:42:02 2001 From: paul@paularmstrong.com (Paul Armstrong) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 15:42:02 +0000 Subject: Compatibility Message-ID: <000a01c13b97$a9071a40$6401a8c0@kwkw1.on.home.com> I am an avid Windows 2000 Terminal Services and Terminal Services Advanced Client user. However, something that I am setting up in my home does not work with TS. I am planning to install WinVNC on my Windows 2000 Advanced Server (SP2), and am wondering if anyone knows of any conflicts between VNC and Win2K Terminal Services. Thanks. Regards, Paul Armstrong --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From BoivinP@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca Wed Sep 12 16:54:50 2001 From: BoivinP@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca (Boivin, Patrice J) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 15:54:50 +0000 Subject: WinVNC and W2K Server "Connectino Closed" message. Message-ID: Anything new on this? Here we even tried switching the IP addresses between two servers. One is accessible using VNC, the other is not. We thought perhaps switching IP addresses might help, but the same server is still accessible, while the other is not. Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle DBA) Acting Head, System Admin & Operations Bedford Institute of Oceanography Fisheries and Oceans Canada > -----Original Message----- > From: James ''Wez'' Weatherall [SMTP:jnw22@cam.ac.uk] > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:37 PM > To: J. Eric Josephson; darren.armstrong@telus.com; > walden@techsoftinc.com; sam@linuxtec.com; martynas@inet.lt > Cc: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: WinVNC and W2K Server "Connectino Closed" message. > > Are you running WinVNC as a service, or as an application. Are any > messages > displayed on the server machine's screen when you attempt to connect to it > & > are disconnected? > > Cheers, > > --- > James "Wez" Weatherall > "The path to enlightenment is /usr/bin/enlightenment" > Laboratory for Communications Engineering, Cambridge - Tel : 766513 > AT&T Labs Cambridge, UK - Tel : 343000 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "J. Eric Josephson" > To: ; ; > ; ; > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 5:27 PM > Subject: WinVNC and W2K Server "Connectino Closed" message. > > > > I'm sorry for the intrusion. I have been using WinVNC on a number of > > systems for some time now, with great luck. I have tried to install it > and > > get it running on W2K server, SP2. I keep getting the "Connection > Closed" > > message after I properly authenticate. My symptoms are exactly the same > as > > the snip below. I have made all attempts to connect to a system that is > > currently logged in and the screen saver is not active. > > > > I was reading a thread in the mailing list archives for VNC about a > Win2k > > Server and WinVNC "Connection Closed" problem. I could not find a > > resolution in the archive. Do you recall if there ever was a fix for > the > > problem? Thanks in advance for your time. > > > > ---- snip > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Darren Armstrong [mailto:darren.armstrong@telus.com] > > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 6:57 PM > > To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' > > Subject: WinVNC on Windows 2000 Server > > > > I know that this issue has been brought up in previous discussions. > > However, I was not able to find a suitable solution. > > > > I am able to install and connect to WinVNC on win2k Professional without > any > > problems. I CANNOT install (as a service) or connect to WinVNC on win2k > > Server. I get a 'connection closed' message as soon as submit my > password. > > This happens even if I set WinVNC to accepting null passwords. > > > > -- > > > > J. Eric Josephson > > 978-356-3506 > > 978-265-6295 Cellular > > > > mailto:jej@6pine.com > > AIM: "jejosephso" > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From carlosalfaro@yahoo.com Wed Sep 12 17:07:36 2001 From: carlosalfaro@yahoo.com (Carlos Alfaro) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 16:07:36 +0000 Subject: Win2K, VNC, ZoneAlarm In-Reply-To: <3B9F6876.587D3BD7@ClubZ.org> Message-ID: <20010912150418.78251.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> I am the one who had problems with win98 and Zone Alarm and got no response so far. Hope I can help. You can edit Zone Alarm to allow the ports you need to have open for Zone Alarm to work. Then the order in which the service start won't matter. I had a similar problem but fixed it by allowing the VNC server to access the local network ( that is another question - do u want VNC to access the net or just a local network) because Zone Alarm can sometimes allow the first time for a service to run, but it will not after is engaged its "lock" when the screen saver kicks in. Hope that helps and it doesnt confuse u more Carlos --- Andy Woo wrote: > Hi, > > I searched through the archives and saw that someone > was having reboot problems with Win2K and VNC. I > also > noticed someone indicating that they were having > problems when VNC and ZoneAlarm were combined. > > I have all three as part of my configuration, > although > I don't have the 'reboot' problem (I have a > different > one, since I blew away my machine, I replaced Win98 > with Win2K, and I got a later version of VNC and > ZoneAlarm... now when I 'restart'... the machines > shuts down... goes to the dark screen... but, never > re-starts back up. Similarly.... before I could > 'shut down', > and the machine would power itself down. Now I just > get the 'it is safe to turn off your machine', and > I have to physically turn the machine off). > > I am running VNC as a service (so that if I > re-start, VNC is running and I can log in remotely. > Or even > if a user has logged off.... VNC is still running, > so I can > log back in). > > So what happens is... since VNC is running > as a service, it starts before ZoneAlarm (which is > an app, that > runs after a user logs into Win2K). This causes > remote access via VNC to NOT WORK. It essentially > times-out > or can't get in. I had a friend try to log in... he > kept > getting non-recognition.... and I could see his > attempts > at port 5800 within my firewall software. > > However, if I log in at the computer... > (hence, VNC was running as a service, then after log > in, > ZoneAlarm is running) If I stop the service, > and re-start the VNC as an app, VNC remote works > fine. > > It seems like the sequence has to be ZoneAlarm > (first), then VNC (second). > I'm guessing that app versus service is not > important... ie. if I re-started > the VNC service instead of running the app., as long > as it's started AFTER > ZoneAlarm, I'd still be ok. > > Is anyone familiar with this ? Have a solution ? > I want to try to retain it as a service, so that I > don't have to be logged > in at the computer, to get in remotely. > > I even thought of giving up on that, and creating a > batch file, that > could be run... so that ZoneAlarm starts first, then > VNC... giving up > on the > no-user-logged-in-but-can-still-log-in-remotely > scenario. > > I created a batch file with two lines.. the first > line running ZoneAlarm, > the second running VNC... but when I run the batch > file... after running > ZoneAlarm,... it never returns to continue to run > VNC. I'm probably missing > something very simple and basic. > > The file is pretty straigthforward : > > "c:\Program Files\ZoneAlarm\zonealarm.exe" -nopopup > "c:\Program Files\ORL\VNC\WinVNC.exe" -run > > Can someone please help me out? > > Thanks in advance, > > > Andy > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Steve@eci-equity.com Wed Sep 12 17:43:15 2001 From: Steve@eci-equity.com (Steve Jacobsen) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 16:43:15 +0000 Subject: KDE2 and vnc Message-ID: I'm trying to setup a server on my linux box and connect from my win2k PC. I get the login screen but then get a patterned grey screen. I am assuming the kde is not starting. I have tried to set -depth = 16 in both the vncserver file and from the command line but it always returns depth 8 in the log file after I try to connect. Any ideas? Here's my vncserver variables: $geometry = "800x600"; $depth = 16; $vncClasses = "/usr/local/vnc/classes"; $vncUserDir = "$ENV{HOME}/.vnc"; $xauthorityFile = "$ENV{HOME}/.Xauthority"; Here's my xstartup file #!/bin/sh xrdb $HOME/.Xresources xsetroot -solid grey -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP Desktop" & twm & /usr/bin/startkde & Here's the log file 12/09/01 10:17:05 Xvnc version 3.3.3 12/09/01 10:17:05 Copyright (C) 1999 AT&T Laboratories Cambridge. 12/09/01 10:17:05 All Rights Reserved. 12/09/01 10:17:05 See http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc for information on VNC 12/09/01 10:17:05 Desktop name '' (www:1) 12/09/01 10:17:05 Protocol version supported 3.3 12/09/01 10:17:05 Listening for VNC connections on TCP port 5901 12/09/01 10:17:05 Listening for HTTP connections on TCP port 5801 12/09/01 10:17:05 URL http://www:5801 12/09/01 10:17:12 httpd: get '' for xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 12/09/01 10:17:12 httpd: defaulting to 'index.vnc' 12/09/01 10:17:28 httpd: get '' for xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 12/09/01 10:17:28 httpd: defaulting to 'index.vnc' 12/09/01 10:17:32 httpd: get 'vncviewer.jar' for xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 12/09/01 10:17:36 Got connection from client xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 12/09/01 10:17:36 Protocol version 3.3 12/09/01 10:17:36 Using hextile encoding for client xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 12/09/01 10:17:36 Pixel format for client xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: 12/09/01 10:17:36 8 bpp, depth 8 12/09/01 10:17:36 true colour: max r 7 g 7 b 3, shift r 0 g 3 b 6 I did have two copies of vncserver. One in /usr/bin and one in /usr/local/bin. So I removed the first one. Steve Jacobsen Information Technology Manager ECI 302 S. Locust Street Glenwood, Iowa 51534 (800) 264-0787 x226 Fax: (712) 527-4856 mailto://steve.jacobsen@eci-equity.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jnw22@cam.ac.uk Wed Sep 12 17:51:12 2001 From: jnw22@cam.ac.uk (James ''Wez'' Weatherall) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 16:51:12 +0000 Subject: WinVNC and W2K Server "Connectino Closed" message. References: Message-ID: <01d901c13ba2$41e39860$1062a981@eng.cam.ac.uk> Run the service with the DebugMode and DebugLevel settings in the registry set to high values, and look at the log. Before the client disconnect messages, there should be some form of error message, indicating the nature of the problem. Cheers, --- James "Wez" Weatherall "The path to enlightenment is /usr/bin/enlightenment" Laboratory for Communications Engineering, Cambridge - Tel : 766513 AT&T Labs Cambridge, UK - Tel : 343000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Eric Josephson" To: "James ''Wez'' Weatherall" ; ; ; ; Cc: Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 5:38 PM Subject: RE: WinVNC and W2K Server "Connectino Closed" message. > I've tried both as a service and as an application with the same results. I > have also looked for any output on the server console and have not seen > any.... > > Thanks for looking at this. > > -- > > J. Eric Josephson > 978-356-3506 > 978-265-6295 Cellular > > mailto:jej@6pine.com > AIM: "jejosephso" > > -----Original Message----- > From: James ''Wez'' Weatherall [mailto:jnw22@cam.ac.uk] > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 11:37 AM > To: J. Eric Josephson; darren.armstrong@telus.com; walden@techsoftinc.com; > sam@linuxtec.com; martynas@inet.lt > Cc: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: WinVNC and W2K Server "Connectino Closed" message. > > Are you running WinVNC as a service, or as an application. Are any messages > displayed on the server machine's screen when you attempt to connect to it & > are disconnected? > > Cheers, > > --- > James "Wez" Weatherall > "The path to enlightenment is /usr/bin/enlightenment" > Laboratory for Communications Engineering, Cambridge - Tel : 766513 > AT&T Labs Cambridge, UK - Tel : 343000 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "J. Eric Josephson" > To: ; ; > ; ; > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 5:27 PM > Subject: WinVNC and W2K Server "Connectino Closed" message. > > > > I'm sorry for the intrusion. I have been using WinVNC on a number of > > systems for some time now, with great luck. I have tried to install it > and > > get it running on W2K server, SP2. I keep getting the "Connection Closed" > > message after I properly authenticate. My symptoms are exactly the same > as > > the snip below. I have made all attempts to connect to a system that is > > currently logged in and the screen saver is not active. > > > > I was reading a thread in the mailing list archives for VNC about a Win2k > > Server and WinVNC "Connection Closed" problem. I could not find a > > resolution in the archive. Do you recall if there ever was a fix for the > > problem? Thanks in advance for your time. > > > > ---- snip > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Darren Armstrong [mailto:darren.armstrong@telus.com] > > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 6:57 PM > > To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' > > Subject: WinVNC on Windows 2000 Server > > > > I know that this issue has been brought up in previous discussions. > > However, I was not able to find a suitable solution. > > > > I am able to install and connect to WinVNC on win2k Professional without > any > > problems. I CANNOT install (as a service) or connect to WinVNC on win2k > > Server. I get a 'connection closed' message as soon as submit my password. > > This happens even if I set WinVNC to accepting null passwords. > > > > -- > > > > J. Eric Josephson > > 978-356-3506 > > 978-265-6295 Cellular > > > > mailto:jej@6pine.com > > AIM: "jejosephso" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sczjd@yahoo.com Wed Sep 12 17:51:20 2001 From: sczjd@yahoo.com (SI Reasoning) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 16:51:20 +0000 Subject: KDE2 and vnc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010912154844.71714.qmail@web9506.mail.yahoo.com> with kde2, you must have vncserver run at depth of 24. Vncviewer can run at any depth, it must be done by vncserver. I edited /usr/sbin/vncserver script to accomplish this. --- Steve Jacobsen wrote: > I'm trying to setup a server on my linux box and > connect from my win2k PC. I > get the login screen but then get a patterned grey > screen. I am assuming the > kde is not starting. I have tried to set -depth = 16 > in both the vncserver > file and from the command line but it always returns > depth 8 in the log file > after I try to connect. Any ideas? > > Here's my vncserver variables: > > $geometry = "800x600"; > $depth = 16; > $vncClasses = "/usr/local/vnc/classes"; > $vncUserDir = "$ENV{HOME}/.vnc"; > $xauthorityFile = "$ENV{HOME}/.Xauthority"; > > Here's my xstartup file > > #!/bin/sh > > xrdb $HOME/.Xresources > xsetroot -solid grey > -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP > Desktop" & > twm & > /usr/bin/startkde & > > Here's the log file > > 12/09/01 10:17:05 Xvnc version 3.3.3 > 12/09/01 10:17:05 Copyright (C) 1999 AT&T > Laboratories Cambridge. > 12/09/01 10:17:05 All Rights Reserved. > 12/09/01 10:17:05 See > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc for information > on > VNC > 12/09/01 10:17:05 Desktop name '' (www:1) > 12/09/01 10:17:05 Protocol version supported 3.3 > 12/09/01 10:17:05 Listening for VNC connections on > TCP port 5901 > 12/09/01 10:17:05 Listening for HTTP connections on > TCP port 5801 > 12/09/01 10:17:05 URL http://www:5801 > 12/09/01 10:17:12 httpd: get '' for xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > 12/09/01 10:17:12 httpd: defaulting to 'index.vnc' > 12/09/01 10:17:28 httpd: get '' for xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > 12/09/01 10:17:28 httpd: defaulting to 'index.vnc' > 12/09/01 10:17:32 httpd: get 'vncviewer.jar' for > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > > 12/09/01 10:17:36 Got connection from client > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > 12/09/01 10:17:36 Protocol version 3.3 > 12/09/01 10:17:36 Using hextile encoding for client > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > 12/09/01 10:17:36 Pixel format for client > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: > 12/09/01 10:17:36 8 bpp, depth 8 > 12/09/01 10:17:36 true colour: max r 7 g 7 b 3, > shift r 0 g 3 b 6 > > I did have two copies of vncserver. One in /usr/bin > and one in > /usr/local/bin. So I removed the first one. > > > > Steve Jacobsen > Information Technology Manager > ECI > 302 S. Locust Street > Glenwood, Iowa 51534 > (800) 264-0787 x226 > Fax: (712) 527-4856 > mailto://steve.jacobsen@eci-equity.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== SI Reasoning sczjd@yahoo.com gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Steve@eci-equity.com Wed Sep 12 18:18:56 2001 From: Steve@eci-equity.com (Steve Jacobsen) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 17:18:56 +0000 Subject: KDE2 and vnc Message-ID: I've tried depth = 24 also and it did not work for me. I am concerned that regardless of what I set it to the log continues to report "depth 8". Steve Jacobsen Information Technology Manager ECI 302 S. Locust Street Glenwood, Iowa 51534 (800) 264-0787 x226 Fax: (712) 527-4856 mailto://steve.jacobsen@eci-equity.com -----Original Message----- From: SI Reasoning [mailto:sczjd@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:49 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: KDE2 and vnc with kde2, you must have vncserver run at depth of 24. Vncviewer can run at any depth, it must be done by vncserver. I edited /usr/sbin/vncserver script to accomplish this. --- Steve Jacobsen wrote: > I'm trying to setup a server on my linux box and > connect from my win2k PC. I > get the login screen but then get a patterned grey > screen. I am assuming the > kde is not starting. I have tried to set -depth = 16 > in both the vncserver > file and from the command line but it always returns > depth 8 in the log file > after I try to connect. Any ideas? > > Here's my vncserver variables: > > $geometry = "800x600"; > $depth = 16; > $vncClasses = "/usr/local/vnc/classes"; > $vncUserDir = "$ENV{HOME}/.vnc"; > $xauthorityFile = "$ENV{HOME}/.Xauthority"; > > Here's my xstartup file > > #!/bin/sh > > xrdb $HOME/.Xresources > xsetroot -solid grey > -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP > Desktop" & > twm & > /usr/bin/startkde & > > Here's the log file > > 12/09/01 10:17:05 Xvnc version 3.3.3 > 12/09/01 10:17:05 Copyright (C) 1999 AT&T > Laboratories Cambridge. > 12/09/01 10:17:05 All Rights Reserved. > 12/09/01 10:17:05 See > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc for information > on > VNC > 12/09/01 10:17:05 Desktop name '' (www:1) > 12/09/01 10:17:05 Protocol version supported 3.3 > 12/09/01 10:17:05 Listening for VNC connections on > TCP port 5901 > 12/09/01 10:17:05 Listening for HTTP connections on > TCP port 5801 > 12/09/01 10:17:05 URL http://www:5801 > 12/09/01 10:17:12 httpd: get '' for xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > 12/09/01 10:17:12 httpd: defaulting to 'index.vnc' > 12/09/01 10:17:28 httpd: get '' for xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > 12/09/01 10:17:28 httpd: defaulting to 'index.vnc' > 12/09/01 10:17:32 httpd: get 'vncviewer.jar' for > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > > 12/09/01 10:17:36 Got connection from client > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > 12/09/01 10:17:36 Protocol version 3.3 > 12/09/01 10:17:36 Using hextile encoding for client > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > 12/09/01 10:17:36 Pixel format for client > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: > 12/09/01 10:17:36 8 bpp, depth 8 > 12/09/01 10:17:36 true colour: max r 7 g 7 b 3, > shift r 0 g 3 b 6 > > I did have two copies of vncserver. One in /usr/bin > and one in > /usr/local/bin. So I removed the first one. > > > > Steve Jacobsen > Information Technology Manager > ECI > 302 S. Locust Street > Glenwood, Iowa 51534 > (800) 264-0787 x226 > Fax: (712) 527-4856 > mailto://steve.jacobsen@eci-equity.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== SI Reasoning sczjd@yahoo.com gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sczjd@yahoo.com Wed Sep 12 19:00:57 2001 From: sczjd@yahoo.com (SI Reasoning) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 18:00:57 +0000 Subject: KDE2 and vnc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010912164514.78838.qmail@web9506.mail.yahoo.com> in ~/.vnc/xstartup file I only have the statement exec startkde --- Steve Jacobsen wrote: > I've tried depth = 24 also and it did not work for > me. I am concerned that > regardless of what I set it to the log continues to > report "depth 8". > > Steve Jacobsen > Information Technology Manager > ECI > 302 S. Locust Street > Glenwood, Iowa 51534 > (800) 264-0787 x226 > Fax: (712) 527-4856 > mailto://steve.jacobsen@eci-equity.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: SI Reasoning [mailto:sczjd@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:49 AM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: KDE2 and vnc > > > with kde2, you must have vncserver run at depth of > 24. > Vncviewer can run at any depth, it must be done by > vncserver. I edited /usr/sbin/vncserver script to > accomplish this. > > --- Steve Jacobsen wrote: > > I'm trying to setup a server on my linux box and > > connect from my win2k PC. I > > get the login screen but then get a patterned grey > > screen. I am assuming the > > kde is not starting. I have tried to set -depth = > 16 > > in both the vncserver > > file and from the command line but it always > returns > > depth 8 in the log file > > after I try to connect. Any ideas? > > > > Here's my vncserver variables: > > > > $geometry = "800x600"; > > $depth = 16; > > $vncClasses = "/usr/local/vnc/classes"; > > $vncUserDir = "$ENV{HOME}/.vnc"; > > $xauthorityFile = "$ENV{HOME}/.Xauthority"; > > > > Here's my xstartup file > > > > #!/bin/sh > > > > xrdb $HOME/.Xresources > > xsetroot -solid grey > > -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP > > Desktop" & > > twm & > > /usr/bin/startkde & > > > > Here's the log file > > > > 12/09/01 10:17:05 Xvnc version 3.3.3 > > 12/09/01 10:17:05 Copyright (C) 1999 AT&T > > Laboratories Cambridge. > > 12/09/01 10:17:05 All Rights Reserved. > > 12/09/01 10:17:05 See > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc for information > > on > > VNC > > 12/09/01 10:17:05 Desktop name '' (www:1) > > 12/09/01 10:17:05 Protocol version supported 3.3 > > 12/09/01 10:17:05 Listening for VNC connections on > > TCP port 5901 > > 12/09/01 10:17:05 Listening for HTTP connections > on > > TCP port 5801 > > 12/09/01 10:17:05 URL http://www:5801 > > 12/09/01 10:17:12 httpd: get '' for > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > > 12/09/01 10:17:12 httpd: defaulting to 'index.vnc' > > 12/09/01 10:17:28 httpd: get '' for > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > > 12/09/01 10:17:28 httpd: defaulting to 'index.vnc' > > 12/09/01 10:17:32 httpd: get 'vncviewer.jar' for > > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > > > > 12/09/01 10:17:36 Got connection from client > > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > > 12/09/01 10:17:36 Protocol version 3.3 > > 12/09/01 10:17:36 Using hextile encoding for > client > > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > > 12/09/01 10:17:36 Pixel format for client > > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: > > 12/09/01 10:17:36 8 bpp, depth 8 > > 12/09/01 10:17:36 true colour: max r 7 g 7 b 3, > > shift r 0 g 3 b 6 > > > > I did have two copies of vncserver. One in > /usr/bin > > and one in > > /usr/local/bin. So I removed the first one. > > > > > > > > Steve Jacobsen > > Information Technology Manager > > ECI > > 302 S. Locust Street > > Glenwood, Iowa 51534 > > (800) 264-0787 x226 > > Fax: (712) 527-4856 > > mailto://steve.jacobsen@eci-equity.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > > unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ===== > SI Reasoning > sczjd@yahoo.com > gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== SI Reasoning sczjd@yahoo.com gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From kevinc@dOink.COM Wed Sep 12 19:01:04 2001 From: kevinc@dOink.COM (Kevin Cosgrove) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 18:01:04 +0000 Subject: AW: password protected screensaver causes "connection closed by peer" In-Reply-To: <20010912074126.54201.qmail@web11608.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010912163858.3A45B2FEA9@joseph.doink.com> Well that explains it. I have no "send ctrl+alt+del" in my right clicked task bar menu. I have only Properties, Add New Client, Kill All Clients, About WinVNC, and Close WinVNC. I tried shift+ctrl+alt+del, but nothing happens. I tried this on the remote Unix client and on the PC itself. I tried this using all of the shift & del keys available on each keyboard. At this point, if I run a screen locker, like I want to do when leaving work for the night, then I have to be at the laptop keyboard in order to unlock the screen because a password protected Win2K screen kills the remote VNC viewer client. Any more suggestions? Thanks.... On 12 September 2001 at 2:41, Stefane Bridy wrote: That's the menu you get by right-clicking on the task bar button of the open VNC connection. BTW, the send the Ctrl+Alt+Del to the remote machine, you can also press Shift+Ctrl+Alt+Del instead of using the menu. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From scfiead@hotmail.com Wed Sep 12 19:18:35 2001 From: scfiead@hotmail.com (Ryan Casey) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 18:18:35 +0000 Subject: AW: password protected screensaver causes "connection closed by peer" References: <20010912163858.3A45B2FEA9@joseph.doink.com> Message-ID: Those are the options if you clicked on the icon for VNC Server in the System Tray. Be sure you are clicking on the Task Bar button for the Viewer's connection. Alternatively, bring up VNC Viewer, connect to the system, and right click in the Title Bar for the window. This should bring up a number of options, including 'Send Ctl-Alt-Del'. Ryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Cosgrove" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:38 PM Subject: Re: AW: password protected screensaver causes "connection closed by peer" > Well that explains it. I have no "send ctrl+alt+del" in my > right clicked task bar menu. I have only Properties, Add New > Client, Kill All Clients, About WinVNC, and Close WinVNC. > > I tried shift+ctrl+alt+del, but nothing happens. I tried > this on the remote Unix client and on the PC itself. I tried > this using all of the shift & del keys available on each > keyboard. > > At this point, if I run a screen locker, like I want to do > when leaving work for the night, then I have to be at the > laptop keyboard in order to unlock the screen because a > password protected Win2K screen kills the remote VNC viewer > client. > > Any more suggestions? > > Thanks.... > > On 12 September 2001 at 2:41, Stefane Bridy wrote: > > That's the menu you get by right-clicking on the task bar button > of the open VNC connection. > > BTW, the send the Ctrl+Alt+Del to the remote machine, you can > also press Shift+Ctrl+Alt+Del instead of using the menu. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From kevinc@dOink.COM Wed Sep 12 20:18:33 2001 From: kevinc@dOink.COM (Kevin Cosgrove) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 19:18:33 +0000 Subject: AW: password protected screensaver causes "connection closed by peer" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010912175750.E1FC92FEA9@joseph.doink.com> My viewer has no task bar. All I have is a Motif-ish (CDE?) window with it's normal move, resize, etc. controls. There are no VNC controls on the title bar for the VNC viewer window. That's on the Unix (Solaris) side. If I try to bring up a viewer on the PC, I get "loopback connections disabled" and I see nothing in the VNC server properties that would enable it. Still stumped.... On 12 September 2001 at 13:14, "Ryan Casey" wrote: Those are the options if you clicked on the icon for VNC Server in the System Tray. Be sure you are clicking on the Task Bar button for the Viewer's connection. Alternatively, bring up VNC Viewer, connect to the system, and right click in the Title Bar for the window. This should bring up a number of options, including 'Send Ctl-Alt-Del'. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Steve@eci-equity.com Wed Sep 12 20:23:06 2001 From: Steve@eci-equity.com (Steve Jacobsen) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 19:23:06 +0000 Subject: KDE2 and vnc Message-ID: Making headway! I reran Xconfigurator and selected 640x480 through 1024X768 and 8 bit through 24 bit. Now when I run vncserver with -depth 24 it show in the log file as starting with 24. But I have a new error: 12/09/01 13:17:55 rfbProcessClientNormalMessage: ignoring unknown encoding type 3 and the same grey pattern screen. Steve Jacobsen Information Technology Manager ECI 302 S. Locust Street Glenwood, Iowa 51534 (800) 264-0787 x226 Fax: (712) 527-4856 mailto://steve.jacobsen@eci-equity.com -----Original Message----- From: SI Reasoning [mailto:sczjd@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:45 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: KDE2 and vnc in ~/.vnc/xstartup file I only have the statement exec startkde --- Steve Jacobsen wrote: > I've tried depth = 24 also and it did not work for > me. I am concerned that > regardless of what I set it to the log continues to > report "depth 8". > > Steve Jacobsen > Information Technology Manager > ECI > 302 S. Locust Street > Glenwood, Iowa 51534 > (800) 264-0787 x226 > Fax: (712) 527-4856 > mailto://steve.jacobsen@eci-equity.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: SI Reasoning [mailto:sczjd@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:49 AM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: KDE2 and vnc > > > with kde2, you must have vncserver run at depth of > 24. > Vncviewer can run at any depth, it must be done by > vncserver. I edited /usr/sbin/vncserver script to > accomplish this. > > --- Steve Jacobsen wrote: > > I'm trying to setup a server on my linux box and > > connect from my win2k PC. I > > get the login screen but then get a patterned grey > > screen. I am assuming the > > kde is not starting. I have tried to set -depth = > 16 > > in both the vncserver > > file and from the command line but it always > returns > > depth 8 in the log file > > after I try to connect. Any ideas? > > > > Here's my vncserver variables: > > > > $geometry = "800x600"; > > $depth = 16; > > $vncClasses = "/usr/local/vnc/classes"; > > $vncUserDir = "$ENV{HOME}/.vnc"; > > $xauthorityFile = "$ENV{HOME}/.Xauthority"; > > > > Here's my xstartup file > > > > #!/bin/sh > > > > xrdb $HOME/.Xresources > > xsetroot -solid grey > > -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP > > Desktop" & > > twm & > > /usr/bin/startkde & > > > > Here's the log file > > > > 12/09/01 10:17:05 Xvnc version 3.3.3 > > 12/09/01 10:17:05 Copyright (C) 1999 AT&T > > Laboratories Cambridge. > > 12/09/01 10:17:05 All Rights Reserved. > > 12/09/01 10:17:05 See > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc for information > > on > > VNC > > 12/09/01 10:17:05 Desktop name '' (www:1) > > 12/09/01 10:17:05 Protocol version supported 3.3 > > 12/09/01 10:17:05 Listening for VNC connections on > > TCP port 5901 > > 12/09/01 10:17:05 Listening for HTTP connections > on > > TCP port 5801 > > 12/09/01 10:17:05 URL http://www:5801 > > 12/09/01 10:17:12 httpd: get '' for > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > > 12/09/01 10:17:12 httpd: defaulting to 'index.vnc' > > 12/09/01 10:17:28 httpd: get '' for > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > > 12/09/01 10:17:28 httpd: defaulting to 'index.vnc' > > 12/09/01 10:17:32 httpd: get 'vncviewer.jar' for > > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > > > > 12/09/01 10:17:36 Got connection from client > > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > > 12/09/01 10:17:36 Protocol version 3.3 > > 12/09/01 10:17:36 Using hextile encoding for > client > > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > > 12/09/01 10:17:36 Pixel format for client > > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: > > 12/09/01 10:17:36 8 bpp, depth 8 > > 12/09/01 10:17:36 true colour: max r 7 g 7 b 3, > > shift r 0 g 3 b 6 > > > > I did have two copies of vncserver. One in > /usr/bin > > and one in > > /usr/local/bin. So I removed the first one. > > > > > > > > Steve Jacobsen > > Information Technology Manager > > ECI > > 302 S. Locust Street > > Glenwood, Iowa 51534 > > (800) 264-0787 x226 > > Fax: (712) 527-4856 > > mailto://steve.jacobsen@eci-equity.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > > unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ===== > SI Reasoning > sczjd@yahoo.com > gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== SI Reasoning sczjd@yahoo.com gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From paul@paularmstrong.com Wed Sep 12 20:33:57 2001 From: paul@paularmstrong.com (Paul Armstrong) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 19:33:57 +0000 Subject: Compatibility Message-ID: <000001c13bb8$70cd2b80$6401a8c0@kwkw1.on.home.com> I just answered my own question. After several attempts and many mistakes I was able to get VNC and Terminal Services running on the same machine. The "Remote Control" effect I was looking for now works. I can now play my MP3's which are on the server in the basement on my stereo in the living room, and control the play list from any computer in the house. GOD I love VNC! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From mgrober@AHFC.STATE.AK.US Wed Sep 12 21:23:04 2001 From: mgrober@AHFC.STATE.AK.US (Marc Grober) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 20:23:04 +0000 Subject: XDM -inetd issues and java io exceptions........ References: Message-ID: Recently (and suddenly) our S70 is taking 30-60 seconds t provide an XDM session. At first I thought that the connection was failing, but the logs (below) show that everything was working..... And after you finally get and use a session when you exit CDE you get java.io.IOException: Unknown RFB message type -1 If I set the inetd options on the S70 to -broadcast I get a snappy response from an ancient 230 that reflects none of these problems. I am using binaries provided by Jan in cz but have not been able to get in touch to find out what he did to get inetd working on aix and these binaries are only on the S70 (not on the 230......). Does anyone know whether the aix patches that were posted address the -inetd issue? ANyone seen this behavior? Marc Grober 12/09/01 10:40:53 *** send_packet state:XDM_MANAGE 12/09/01 10:40:53 *** send_packet:end case 12/09/01 10:40:56 *** receive_packet 12/09/01 10:40:56 *** receive_packet:case ACCEPT 12/09/01 10:40:56 *** receive_packet:end case 12/09/01 10:40:57 *** send_packet state 12/09/01 10:40:57 *** send_packet state:XDM_MANAGE 12/09/01 10:40:57 *** send_packet:end case 12/09/01 10:41:01 *** send_packet state 12/09/01 10:41:01 *** send_packet state:XDM_MANAGE 12/09/01 10:41:01 *** send_packet:end case 12/09/01 10:41:09 *** send_packet state 12/09/01 10:41:09 *** send_packet state:XDM_MANAGE 12/09/01 10:41:09 *** send_packet:end case 12/09/01 10:41:25 *** send_packet state 12/09/01 10:41:25 *** send_packet state:XDM_MANAGE 12/09/01 10:41:25 *** send_packet:end case --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From hines@gderome.com Wed Sep 12 22:17:16 2001 From: hines@gderome.com (Charles Hines) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:17:16 +0000 Subject: XDM -inetd issues and java io exceptions........ Message-ID: <15263.49424.417122.187040@gargle.gargle.HOWL> >>>>> "Marc" == Marc Grober writes: Marc> Does anyone know whether the aix patches that were posted address the Marc> -inetd issue? ANyone seen this behavior? If you're referring to my AIX compile patches, there is nothing explicit in them w/ regards to inetd (as I never ran it under inetd), simply to get it to compile under AIX. Sorry. Chuck -- Charles K. Hines Principal Scientist at ReQuest Technologies Inc (http://www.ReQuestTech.com/) "You tell him and I will smack you. I will smack you like a bad bad donkey, okay!" - Pepe in 'Muppets From Space' --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Wed Sep 12 22:55:43 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:55:43 +0000 Subject: AW: password protected screensaver causes "connection closed by peer" In-Reply-To: <20010912175750.E1FC92FEA9@joseph.doink.com> Message-ID: <002801c13bca$90dfc060$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> Since you are on Unix (Solaris) use Shift+Alt+Ctrl+Dele This will send it to the client. but on my Sun box I just need to use Ctrl+Alt+Dele as Solaris doesn't intercept this. But on Solaris Alt+F4 will close the viewer so Shift+Alt+F4 will close the window in the viewer. Hope this helps. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Kevin Cosgrove Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:58 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: AW: password protected screensaver causes "connection closed by peer" My viewer has no task bar. All I have is a Motif-ish (CDE?) window with it's normal move, resize, etc. controls. There are no VNC controls on the title bar for the VNC viewer window. That's on the Unix (Solaris) side. If I try to bring up a viewer on the PC, I get "loopback connections disabled" and I see nothing in the VNC server properties that would enable it. Still stumped.... On 12 September 2001 at 13:14, "Ryan Casey" wrote: Those are the options if you clicked on the icon for VNC Server in the System Tray. Be sure you are clicking on the Task Bar button for the Viewer's connection. Alternatively, bring up VNC Viewer, connect to the system, and right click in the Title Bar for the window. This should bring up a number of options, including 'Send Ctl-Alt-Del'. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Wed Sep 12 22:56:50 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:56:50 +0000 Subject: KDE2 and vnc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002701c13bca$8e498520$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> That one you might be able to ignore. I see it as your viewer is requesting an encoding type that is not supported via your Xvnc. e.g. your viewer is tight and your server is standard ATT. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Steve Jacobsen Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 2:19 PM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: KDE2 and vnc Making headway! I reran Xconfigurator and selected 640x480 through 1024X768 and 8 bit through 24 bit. Now when I run vncserver with -depth 24 it show in the log file as starting with 24. But I have a new error: 12/09/01 13:17:55 rfbProcessClientNormalMessage: ignoring unknown encoding type 3 and the same grey pattern screen. Steve Jacobsen Information Technology Manager ECI 302 S. Locust Street Glenwood, Iowa 51534 (800) 264-0787 x226 Fax: (712) 527-4856 mailto://steve.jacobsen@eci-equity.com -----Original Message----- From: SI Reasoning [mailto:sczjd@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:45 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: KDE2 and vnc in ~/.vnc/xstartup file I only have the statement exec startkde --- Steve Jacobsen wrote: > I've tried depth = 24 also and it did not work for > me. I am concerned that > regardless of what I set it to the log continues to > report "depth 8". > > Steve Jacobsen > Information Technology Manager > ECI > 302 S. Locust Street > Glenwood, Iowa 51534 > (800) 264-0787 x226 > Fax: (712) 527-4856 > mailto://steve.jacobsen@eci-equity.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: SI Reasoning [mailto:sczjd@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:49 AM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: KDE2 and vnc > > > with kde2, you must have vncserver run at depth of > 24. > Vncviewer can run at any depth, it must be done by > vncserver. I edited /usr/sbin/vncserver script to > accomplish this. > > --- Steve Jacobsen wrote: > > I'm trying to setup a server on my linux box and > > connect from my win2k PC. I > > get the login screen but then get a patterned grey > > screen. I am assuming the > > kde is not starting. I have tried to set -depth = > 16 > > in both the vncserver > > file and from the command line but it always > returns > > depth 8 in the log file > > after I try to connect. Any ideas? > > > > Here's my vncserver variables: > > > > $geometry = "800x600"; > > $depth = 16; > > $vncClasses = "/usr/local/vnc/classes"; > > $vncUserDir = "$ENV{HOME}/.vnc"; > > $xauthorityFile = "$ENV{HOME}/.Xauthority"; > > > > Here's my xstartup file > > > > #!/bin/sh > > > > xrdb $HOME/.Xresources > > xsetroot -solid grey > > -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP > > Desktop" & > > twm & > > /usr/bin/startkde & > > > > Here's the log file > > > > 12/09/01 10:17:05 Xvnc version 3.3.3 > > 12/09/01 10:17:05 Copyright (C) 1999 AT&T > > Laboratories Cambridge. > > 12/09/01 10:17:05 All Rights Reserved. > > 12/09/01 10:17:05 See > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc for information > > on > > VNC > > 12/09/01 10:17:05 Desktop name '' (www:1) > > 12/09/01 10:17:05 Protocol version supported 3.3 > > 12/09/01 10:17:05 Listening for VNC connections on > > TCP port 5901 > > 12/09/01 10:17:05 Listening for HTTP connections > on > > TCP port 5801 > > 12/09/01 10:17:05 URL http://www:5801 > > 12/09/01 10:17:12 httpd: get '' for > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > > 12/09/01 10:17:12 httpd: defaulting to 'index.vnc' > > 12/09/01 10:17:28 httpd: get '' for > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > > 12/09/01 10:17:28 httpd: defaulting to 'index.vnc' > > 12/09/01 10:17:32 httpd: get 'vncviewer.jar' for > > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > > > > 12/09/01 10:17:36 Got connection from client > > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > > 12/09/01 10:17:36 Protocol version 3.3 > > 12/09/01 10:17:36 Using hextile encoding for > client > > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > > 12/09/01 10:17:36 Pixel format for client > > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: > > 12/09/01 10:17:36 8 bpp, depth 8 > > 12/09/01 10:17:36 true colour: max r 7 g 7 b 3, > > shift r 0 g 3 b 6 > > > > I did have two copies of vncserver. One in > /usr/bin > > and one in > > /usr/local/bin. So I removed the first one. > > > > > > > > Steve Jacobsen > > Information Technology Manager > > ECI > > 302 S. Locust Street > > Glenwood, Iowa 51534 > > (800) 264-0787 x226 > > Fax: (712) 527-4856 > > mailto://steve.jacobsen@eci-equity.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > > unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ===== > SI Reasoning > sczjd@yahoo.com > gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== SI Reasoning sczjd@yahoo.com gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From kevinc@dOink.COM Wed Sep 12 23:48:33 2001 From: kevinc@dOink.COM (Kevin Cosgrove) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 22:48:33 +0000 Subject: AW: password protected screensaver causes "connection closed by peer" In-Reply-To: <002801c13bca$90dfc060$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> Message-ID: <20010912211621.228172FEA9@joseph.doink.com> The behavior here, on Solaris, is that shift+ctrl+alt+del does nothing in the viewer. Neither does ctrl+alt+del, nor shift+alt+f4. alt+f4 exits the viewer, as expected. Sigh... On 12 September 2001 at 16:36, "Steve Palocz" wrote: Since you are on Unix (Solaris) use Shift+Alt+Ctrl+Dele This will send it to the client. but on my Sun box I just need to use Ctrl+Alt+Dele as Solaris doesn't intercept this. But on Solaris Alt+F4 will close the viewer so Shift+Alt+F4 will close the window in the viewer. Hope this helps. Steve --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andy.Woo@ClubZ.org Thu Sep 13 05:37:40 2001 From: Andy.Woo@ClubZ.org (Andy Woo) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 04:37:40 +0000 Subject: Win2K, VNC, ZoneAlarm References: <20010912150418.78251.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3BA02996.FAC5608E@ClubZ.org> Actually, I am confused. How do you edit ZoneAlarm to allow specific ports to be open ? Do you need ZoneAlarm PRO for that? Besides, ZoneAlarm is set to recognize to allow VNC to work... How does the sequence of which starts first, affect ZoneAlarm's ability to allow VNC to listen to port 5800 ? I disengage the lock. And I was trying to access my machine remotely, through VNC, through ZoneAlarm, to VNC on the home machine. Carlos Alfaro wrote: > > I am the one who had problems with win98 and Zone > Alarm and got no response so far. > > Hope I can help. You can edit Zone Alarm to allow the > ports you need to have open for Zone Alarm to work. > Then the order in which the service start won't > matter. I had a similar problem but fixed it by > allowing the VNC server to access the local network ( > that is another question - do u want VNC to access the > net or just a local network) because Zone Alarm can > sometimes allow the first time for a service to run, > but it will not after is engaged its "lock" when the > screen saver kicks in. > > Hope that helps and it doesnt confuse u more > > Carlos > --- Andy Woo wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I searched through the archives and saw that someone > > was having reboot problems with Win2K and VNC. I > > also > > noticed someone indicating that they were having > > problems when VNC and ZoneAlarm were combined. > > > > I have all three as part of my configuration, > > although > > I don't have the 'reboot' problem (I have a > > different > > one, since I blew away my machine, I replaced Win98 > > with Win2K, and I got a later version of VNC and > > ZoneAlarm... now when I 'restart'... the machines > > shuts down... goes to the dark screen... but, never > > re-starts back up. Similarly.... before I could > > 'shut down', > > and the machine would power itself down. Now I just > > get the 'it is safe to turn off your machine', and > > I have to physically turn the machine off). > > > > I am running VNC as a service (so that if I > > re-start, VNC is running and I can log in remotely. > > Or even > > if a user has logged off.... VNC is still running, > > so I can > > log back in). > > > > So what happens is... since VNC is running > > as a service, it starts before ZoneAlarm (which is > > an app, that > > runs after a user logs into Win2K). This causes > > remote access via VNC to NOT WORK. It essentially > > times-out > > or can't get in. I had a friend try to log in... he > > kept > > getting non-recognition.... and I could see his > > attempts > > at port 5800 within my firewall software. > > > > However, if I log in at the computer... > > (hence, VNC was running as a service, then after log > > in, > > ZoneAlarm is running) If I stop the service, > > and re-start the VNC as an app, VNC remote works > > fine. > > > > It seems like the sequence has to be ZoneAlarm > > (first), then VNC (second). > > I'm guessing that app versus service is not > > important... ie. if I re-started > > the VNC service instead of running the app., as long > > as it's started AFTER > > ZoneAlarm, I'd still be ok. > > > > Is anyone familiar with this ? Have a solution ? > > I want to try to retain it as a service, so that I > > don't have to be logged > > in at the computer, to get in remotely. > > > > I even thought of giving up on that, and creating a > > batch file, that > > could be run... so that ZoneAlarm starts first, then > > VNC... giving up > > on the > > no-user-logged-in-but-can-still-log-in-remotely > > scenario. > > > > I created a batch file with two lines.. the first > > line running ZoneAlarm, > > the second running VNC... but when I run the batch > > file... after running > > ZoneAlarm,... it never returns to continue to run > > VNC. I'm probably missing > > something very simple and basic. > > > > The file is pretty straigthforward : > > > > "c:\Program Files\ZoneAlarm\zonealarm.exe" -nopopup > > "c:\Program Files\ORL\VNC\WinVNC.exe" -run > > > > Can someone please help me out? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > Andy > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > > unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From andreas.nilsson@sp.se Thu Sep 13 09:38:04 2001 From: andreas.nilsson@sp.se (Andreas Nilsson) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:38:04 +0000 Subject: ALT+PRINTSCREEN problem Message-ID: <282D532E60C7D211AEAB0008C7092A504610F2@spannen.sp.se> There doesn't seem to be a way to perform ALT+PRINTSCREEN with the VNC application. In an application like this, I think it's important that "the whole keyboard works"! Maybe I'll switch to PcAnywhere. Andreas Nilsson, System Development Engineer SP Swedish National Testing and Research Institute Measurement Technology, Electric Power Brinellgatan 4, P.O. Box 857, S-501 15 BORES, Sweden Tel: +46 (0)33-16 50 00, (direct) +46 (0)33-16 56 41 Telefax: +46 (0)33-16 56 20, mailto:Andreas.Nilsson@sp.se Home page: http://www.sp.se/metrology/ ########################################### This message has been scanned by F-Secure Anti-Virus for Microsoft Exchange. For more information, connect to http://www.F-Secure.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From stefane_bridy@yahoo.com Thu Sep 13 10:12:41 2001 From: stefane_bridy@yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Stefane=20Bridy?=) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:12:41 +0000 Subject: Win2K, VNC, ZoneAlarm Message-ID: <20010913080934.26171.qmail@web11602.mail.yahoo.com> For the batch file, try to put CALL before the zone alarm line, as I remember that depending on the program started from the batch file, then batch file is terminated, unless this command was used. So it'd be: call "c:\Program Files\ZoneAlarm\zonealarm.exe" -nopopup "c:\Program Files\ORL\VNC\WinVNC.exe" -run or maybe, in case of errors because of longnames, depending of the configuration of your system: call c:\Progra~1\ZoneAl~1\zoneal~1.exe -nopopup "c:\Program Files\ORL\VNC\WinVNC.exe" -run Hope it works ... ===== Your problem was : ========== I created a batch file with two lines.. the first line running ZoneAlarm, the second running VNC... but when I run the batch file... after running ZoneAlarm,... it never returns to continue to run VNC. I'm probably missing something very simple and basic. The file is pretty straigthforward : "c:\Program Files\ZoneAlarm\zonealarm.exe" -nopopup "c:\Program Files\ORL\VNC\WinVNC.exe" -run Can someone please help me out? Thanks in advance, Andy _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Construye tu pagina personal en Yahoo! GeoCities. !Es facil, rapido y gratis! http://geocities.yahoo.com.mx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From stefane_bridy@yahoo.com Thu Sep 13 10:21:12 2001 From: stefane_bridy@yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Stefane=20Bridy?=) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:21:12 +0000 Subject: Ctrl + Esc in NT In-Reply-To: <3B9F5A9F.5090208@ndc-nfi.com> Message-ID: <20010913081802.4708.qmail@web11606.mail.yahoo.com> Well ... it doesn't work for me, but the way to proceed is clearly indicated in the DOCUMENTATION on the VNC site, for each viewer type. It's just that the system menu or pop-up menu, depending on your platform doesn't state it clearly. For NT viewer, for example, the system menu item "Send control down" is confusing people. It means holding control down, so you just have to press Esc then, (dont forget to release control with "Send control up" if you want to avoid problems for yourself, (or local user?) later on). It's explained in the documentation, but people (I amongst them) don't take time to read them through ... so just go in http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc and click on documentation on the left menu. --- Mike Lazlo escribis: > I have seen messages about Ctrl + Esc not working in WinVnc in > the NT > OS. I have seen messages about people saying to add the Shift > key to > this sequence. This will not work because this is the shortcut > for > 'Windows Task Manager'. But I have just stumbled across the > key sequence > of 'Alt + S' which seems to work on at least WinNT machines > that I have > come across. If anyone is interested. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe > vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Construye tu pagina personal en Yahoo! GeoCities. !Es facil, rapido y gratis! http://geocities.yahoo.com.mx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From stefane_bridy@yahoo.com Thu Sep 13 10:23:52 2001 From: stefane_bridy@yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Stefane=20Bridy?=) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:23:52 +0000 Subject: WHY? HOW? Message-ID: <20010913082125.1093.qmail@web11605.mail.yahoo.com> Can anyone who knows how to read the program source files investigate about the potential bug of "IdleTimeout" being constantly reset (count down never ends when no input or refresh request from VNC viewer) by the "Poll Full Screen option", whereas for other poll options, it works fine and connection is terminated after the desired time? And if found, is it easy to have it fixed? When are new versions of VNC published? Best regards _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Construye tu pagina personal en Yahoo! GeoCities. !Es facil, rapido y gratis! http://geocities.yahoo.com.mx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From stefane_bridy@yahoo.com Thu Sep 13 10:35:33 2001 From: stefane_bridy@yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Stefane=20Bridy?=) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:35:33 +0000 Subject: AW: password protected screensaver causes "connection closed by peer" In-Reply-To: <20010912163858.3A45B2FEA9@joseph.doink.com> Message-ID: <20010913083221.87480.qmail@web11604.mail.yahoo.com> 3 answers below each question --- Kevin Cosgrove escribis: > Well that explains it. I have no "send ctrl+alt+del" in > my > right clicked task bar menu. I have only Properties, Add > New > Client, Kill All Clients, About WinVNC, and Close WinVNC. On 12 September 2001 at 13:14, "Ryan Casey" already explained it in : Those are the options if you clicked on the icon for VNC Server in the System Tray. Be sure you are clicking on the Task Bar button for the Viewer's connection. Alternatively, bring up VNC Viewer, connect to the system, and right click in the Title Bar for the window. This should bring up a number of options, including 'Send Ctl-Alt-Del'. > I tried shift+ctrl+alt+del, but nothing happens. I tried > this on the remote Unix client and on the PC itself. I > tried > this using all of the shift & del keys available on each > keyboard. OK, if you don't use the viewer on a Windows machine, the system menu is not accessed the same, BUT everything is explained in the documentation as I wrote in a previous email : "Well ... it doesn't work for me, but the way to proceed is clearly indicated in the documentation on the VNC site, for each viewer type. It's just that the system menu or pop-up menu, depending on your platform doesn't state it clearly. For NT viewer, for example, the system menu item "Send control down" is confusing people. It means holding control down, so you just have to press Esc then, (dont forget to release control with "Send control up" if you want to avoid problems for yourself, (or local user?) later on). It's explained in the documentation, but people (I amongst them) don't take time to read them through ... so just go in http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc and click on documentation on the left menu." > At this point, if I run a screen locker, like I want to do > when leaving work for the night, then I have to be at the > laptop keyboard in order to unlock the screen because a > password protected Win2K screen kills the remote VNC > viewer client. > > Any more suggestions? Yes :-) I don't know for winVNC client on other platforms than NT, but, for NT, in the DOCUMENTATION (http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc), it's clearly explained that if you just start it as apps (so started by clicking on it or in start menu Startup group), it will just stop the program as it does for all when you unlogg, but it shouldn't when you make screen lock (are you sure you didn't unlog instead?). That's why you have to install is as a SERVICE. You can do it in start menu, VNC, Administrator tools, ... for other platforms or information, just read the DOCUMENTATION :-)))) I know, it's easier to ask, but you'll learn about a lot of interesting features by taking the time to read it through. Have a good time reading, and please, someone look into my UNdocumented question just the previous message I think. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Construye tu pagina personal en Yahoo! GeoCities. !Es facil, rapido y gratis! http://geocities.yahoo.com.mx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From JLesch@MUELLHEIM.HELIOS-KLINIKEN.de Thu Sep 13 10:45:19 2001 From: JLesch@MUELLHEIM.HELIOS-KLINIKEN.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Lesch=2C_J=F6rg=22?=) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:45:19 +0000 Subject: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on use rworkstation Message-ID: <57C3A1A862A3D511B8B400508BEAD5820124EB@MUE02> Hi I was wondering if it would be possible to add another option to the VNC programm. I'm administrating a small network and I want to install VNC on every workstation. The problem is, I'm not allowed to do this unless VNC tells the user, someone is connected every time I connect. I know the little symbol in the sytemtray changes colors but it has to be something like a message box. Everything else with VNC is great, I'm super happy with this usefull prog and give the developers as much credits for their work as possible Jvrg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From mohan@worldcare.com.my Thu Sep 13 11:10:44 2001 From: mohan@worldcare.com.my (Mohan Ram) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 10:10:44 +0000 Subject: A common problem..? Message-ID: <008301c13c36$13cd3280$e9a8a8c0@my.openmedix.net> G'Day, I have my Ultra running vnc on 2.7, I have the vncserver running, to access from remote sites. Starting the vncserver on the Ultra from telnet sessions are okay, but when I exit the telnet session, only a grey box appears on the remote machine...but the vnc process seems to be running on the server...all my config files ( including xstartup etc ) has not been changed. Another curiosity, according to the vnc website, a non root user can start up the vncserver if the /tmp/.X11-unix permissions are changed to 777, how do I automate this during startup & lastly does anyone have a startup script to fire up the vncserver during boot up....?? Appreciate all the help......Mohan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From svenn@dstl.gov.uk Thu Sep 13 13:15:40 2001 From: svenn@dstl.gov.uk (Steven Venn) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:15:40 +0000 Subject: Bandwidth limitations Message-ID: We are trying to use Win VNC to view maps & info via a remote terminal, with this degree of complexity of information the update is very slow. What I would like to know is what is it that limits the VNC software from making the best available use of the bandwidth available. Our computers are connected via a 10MB network and yet the peak bandwidth used by VNC is about 11K p/sec. Also does anybody know how we can modify the software to make best use of the bandwidth available to the software. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From kizetoni@hotmail.com Thu Sep 13 14:46:36 2001 From: kizetoni@hotmail.com (Zoran Pantic) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:46:36 +0000 Subject: Ctrl + Esc in NT References: <3B9F5A9F.5090208@ndc-nfi.com> Message-ID: Mike, how would you then emulate Ctrl+Esc sequence? Regards, Zoran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Lazlo" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 2:52 PM Subject: Ctrl + Esc in NT > I have seen messages about Ctrl + Esc not working in WinVnc in the NT > OS. I have seen messages about people saying to add the Shift key to > this sequence. This will not work because this is the shortcut for > 'Windows Task Manager'. But I have just stumbled across the key sequence > of 'Alt + S' which seems to work on at least WinNT machines that I have > come across. If anyone is interested. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From mlazlo@ndc-nfi.com Thu Sep 13 15:00:23 2001 From: mlazlo@ndc-nfi.com (Mike Lazlo) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:00:23 +0000 Subject: Ctrl + Esc in NT Message-ID: <3BA0ACFD.1000704@ndc-nfi.com> 'Alt + s' as a shortcut to clicking the 'Start' button in WinNT seems to only work if the 'Desktop' has focus. If an application is running and has focus, 'Alt + s' seems to no longer work! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Thu Sep 13 15:03:25 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:03:25 +0000 Subject: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on use rworkstation In-Reply-To: <57C3A1A862A3D511B8B400508BEAD5820124EB@MUE02> Message-ID: <000201c13c54$33671e80$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> This is implemented, Please see the documentation. -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Lesch, Jvrg Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:41 AM To: 'VNC Mailing List' Subject: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on use rworkstation Hi I was wondering if it would be possible to add another option to the VNC programm. I'm administrating a small network and I want to install VNC on every workstation. The problem is, I'm not allowed to do this unless VNC tells the user, someone is connected every time I connect. I know the little symbol in the sytemtray changes colors but it has to be something like a message box. Everything else with VNC is great, I'm super happy with this usefull prog and give the developers as much credits for their work as possible Jvrg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Thu Sep 13 15:03:32 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:03:32 +0000 Subject: AW: password protected screensaver causes "connection closed by peer" In-Reply-To: <20010912211621.228172FEA9@joseph.doink.com> Message-ID: <000101c13c53$99f4e480$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> try hitting F8 -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Kevin Cosgrove Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:16 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: AW: password protected screensaver causes "connection closed by peer" The behavior here, on Solaris, is that shift+ctrl+alt+del does nothing in the viewer. Neither does ctrl+alt+del, nor shift+alt+f4. alt+f4 exits the viewer, as expected. Sigh... On 12 September 2001 at 16:36, "Steve Palocz" wrote: Since you are on Unix (Solaris) use Shift+Alt+Ctrl+Dele This will send it to the client. but on my Sun box I just need to use Ctrl+Alt+Dele as Solaris doesn't intercept this. But on Solaris Alt+F4 will close the viewer so Shift+Alt+F4 will close the window in the viewer. Hope this helps. Steve --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Eric@InvisibleRobot.com Thu Sep 13 15:28:50 2001 From: Eric@InvisibleRobot.com (Eric Carlson) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:28:50 +0000 Subject: Java viewer is faster than native Windows Viewer!? Message-ID: <3BA0B405.D6DB4B83@InvisibleRobot.com> I noticed that the VNC Viewer 3.3.3r9 is very slow if connecting from a Windows 98/ME machine to a Windows NT 4.0 server, but is fine from a Win2K machine. I think the VNC Viewer has issues with Windows 98/ME because it seems to slow down the whole computer, and I've tried it on at least two vastly different computers. One computer was a Toshiba laptop P-III/500 with 196.Meg RAM and Windows 98, and the other was a Compaq Presario desktop Celeron/633 with 320.Meg RAM and WinME. After installing Windows 2000 Pro on both of these, the VNC Viewer is much faster, and the other apps don't slow down when I am running VNC Viewer. - Eric, http://www.InvisibleRobot.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jnw22@cam.ac.uk Thu Sep 13 15:43:28 2001 From: jnw22@cam.ac.uk (James ''Wez'' Weatherall) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:43:28 +0000 Subject: WinVNC and W2K Server "Connectino Closed" message. References: Message-ID: <001b01c13c59$8f9950b0$1062a981@eng.cam.ac.uk> > I feel silly asking, but for debug mode, what string value do I have to add > and is it in HKLU or HKLM? The keys to use are described in the online documentation. The debug keys are Machine-Local settings, i.e. HKLM. Cheers, --- James "Wez" Weatherall "The path to enlightenment is /usr/bin/enlightenment" Laboratory for Communications Engineering, Cambridge - Tel : 766513 AT&T Labs Cambridge, UK - Tel : 343000 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From DavidB@mail.interclean.com Thu Sep 13 15:51:08 2001 From: DavidB@mail.interclean.com (David Brodbeck) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:51:08 +0000 Subject: Java viewer is faster than native Windows Viewer!? Message-ID: Interesting. I haven't noticed any excessive slowdowns under Windows 98 or Windows 95, on my 900 MHz AMD Athalon or on my 75 MHz Toshiba laptop (though the small screen on the latter makes using VNC a little tedious sometimes.) I wonder if there are particular options you have to select for things to slow down? -----Original Message----- From: Eric Carlson [mailto:Eric@InvisibleRobot.com] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:26 AM To: VNC List Subject: re: Java viewer is faster than native Windows Viewer!? I noticed that the VNC Viewer 3.3.3r9 is very slow if connecting from a Windows 98/ME machine to a Windows NT 4.0 server, but is fine from a Win2K machine. I think the VNC Viewer has issues with Windows 98/ME because it seems to slow down the whole computer, and I've tried it on at least two vastly different computers. One computer was a Toshiba laptop P-III/500 with 196.Meg RAM and Windows 98, and the other was a Compaq Presario desktop Celeron/633 with 320.Meg RAM and WinME. After installing Windows 2000 Pro on both of these, the VNC Viewer is much faster, and the other apps don't slow down when I am running VNC Viewer. - Eric, http://www.InvisibleRobot.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From DavidB@mail.interclean.com Thu Sep 13 15:55:56 2001 From: DavidB@mail.interclean.com (David Brodbeck) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:55:56 +0000 Subject: Bandwidth limitations Message-ID: Have you tried TightVNC? In particular, you may find the JPEG compression helpful. See http://vnc-tight.sourceforge.net/ -----Original Message----- From: Steven Venn [mailto:svenn@dstl.gov.uk] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:58 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Bandwidth limitations We are trying to use Win VNC to view maps & info via a remote terminal, with this degree of complexity of information the update is very slow. What I would like to know is what is it that limits the VNC software from making the best available use of the bandwidth available. Our computers are connected via a 10MB network and yet the peak bandwidth used by VNC is about 11K p/sec. Also does anybody know how we can modify the software to make best use of the bandwidth available to the software. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From DavidB@mail.interclean.com Thu Sep 13 16:00:25 2001 From: DavidB@mail.interclean.com (David Brodbeck) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:00:25 +0000 Subject: Bandwidth limitations Message-ID: Oh, another thought -- is it just VNC that's slow, or is all network traffic? Make sure you don't have a network problem, like a mismatched duplex setting or bad cable, that's causing excessive collisions. -----Original Message----- From: Steven Venn [mailto:svenn@dstl.gov.uk] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:58 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Bandwidth limitations We are trying to use Win VNC to view maps & info via a remote terminal, with this degree of complexity of information the update is very slow. What I would like to know is what is it that limits the VNC software from making the best available use of the bandwidth available. Our computers are connected via a 10MB network and yet the peak bandwidth used by VNC is about 11K p/sec. Also does anybody know how we can modify the software to make best use of the bandwidth available to the software. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From JLesch@MUELLHEIM.HELIOS-KLINIKEN.de Thu Sep 13 16:00:51 2001 From: JLesch@MUELLHEIM.HELIOS-KLINIKEN.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Lesch=2C_J=F6rg=22?=) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:00:51 +0000 Subject: AW: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on use rworkstation Message-ID: <57C3A1A862A3D511B8B400508BEAD5820124ED@MUE02> thanks for the hint. -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Steve Palocz [mailto:spalocz@tgtsolutions.com] Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 13. September 2001 15:01 An: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Betreff: RE: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on use rworkstation This is implemented, Please see the documentation. -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Lesch, Jvrg Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:41 AM To: 'VNC Mailing List' Subject: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on use rworkstation Hi I was wondering if it would be possible to add another option to the VNC programm. I'm administrating a small network and I want to install VNC on every workstation. The problem is, I'm not allowed to do this unless VNC tells the user, someone is connected every time I connect. I know the little symbol in the sytemtray changes colors but it has to be something like a message box. Everything else with VNC is great, I'm super happy with this usefull prog and give the developers as much credits for their work as possible Jvrg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Eric@InvisibleRobot.com Thu Sep 13 16:01:47 2001 From: Eric@InvisibleRobot.com (Eric Carlson) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:01:47 +0000 Subject: VNC Problem Message-ID: <3BA0BBD1.38755216@InvisibleRobot.com> Turn off smooth scrolling in IE, or set "poll full screen" in VNC. Some other Windows utilities also don't refresh well unless you set "poll full screen", but unfortunately it slows down the VNC experience. - Eric, http://www.InvisibleRobot.com/ > If I open an IE browser window and access a > site and do scrolling ( Not very fast ) after > sometime the browser window does not display > properly. Most of the stuff from previous --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Eric@InvisibleRobot.com Thu Sep 13 16:11:47 2001 From: Eric@InvisibleRobot.com (Eric Carlson) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:11:47 +0000 Subject: version 3.3.3r9 Message-ID: <3BA0BDF0.6F18C208@InvisibleRobot.com> You also have to set the default password in r9. When you installed it and set a password, it was only the user password. You have to go to "Start/Programs/VNC/Administrative Tools/Show Default Settings" to set the default password. If you ever change the VNC password in 3.3.3r9, make sure you change the user password (for each user if there is more than one), and the default password. - Eric, http://www.InvisibleRobot.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Mark.Reeder@reuters.com Thu Sep 13 16:12:04 2001 From: Mark.Reeder@reuters.com (Mark.Reeder@reuters.com) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:12:04 +0000 Subject: .vnc Message-ID: Is there any way to specify where to place this apart from the default ~ ? e.g. to allow for different vncserver instances started from the same Unix user. Mark ----------------------------------------------------------------- Visit our Internet site at http://www.reuters.com Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Reuters Ltd. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Thu Sep 13 16:25:06 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:25:06 +0000 Subject: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on use rworkstation In-Reply-To: <57C3A1A862A3D511B8B400508BEAD5820124ED@MUE02> Message-ID: <001101c13c5f$935d27c0$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> If you don't want to manually edit the registry then check out the tight version as there is an advanced option. www.tightvnc.com Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Lesch, Jvrg Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:57 AM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: AW: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on use rworkstation thanks for the hint. -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Steve Palocz [mailto:spalocz@tgtsolutions.com] Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 13. September 2001 15:01 An: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Betreff: RE: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on use rworkstation This is implemented, Please see the documentation. -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Lesch, Jvrg Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:41 AM To: 'VNC Mailing List' Subject: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on use rworkstation Hi I was wondering if it would be possible to add another option to the VNC programm. I'm administrating a small network and I want to install VNC on every workstation. The problem is, I'm not allowed to do this unless VNC tells the user, someone is connected every time I connect. I know the little symbol in the sytemtray changes colors but it has to be something like a message box. Everything else with VNC is great, I'm super happy with this usefull prog and give the developers as much credits for their work as possible Jvrg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From shi@informatik.uni-erlangen.de Thu Sep 13 16:33:05 2001 From: shi@informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Rui Ping Shi) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:33:05 +0000 Subject: .vnc References: Message-ID: <3BA0C2EA.42B1E1D7@immd5.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> Hallo, I think u can start any number of vncserver indepedent on .vnc. The only thing u need to know is the server number. Mark.Reeder@reuters.com wrote: > Is there any way to specify where to place this apart from the default ~ ? > > e.g. to allow for different vncserver instances started from the same Unix user. > > Mark > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit our Internet site at http://www.reuters.com > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be > the views of Reuters Ltd. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Eric@InvisibleRobot.com Thu Sep 13 16:45:54 2001 From: Eric@InvisibleRobot.com (Eric Carlson) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:45:54 +0000 Subject: Java viewer is faster than native Windows Viewer!? Message-ID: <3BA0C5C2.A686D2FB@InvisibleRobot.com> Maybe it conflicts with one of the Windows Updates, or some other app I have installed on the systems, but the problem was fixed by upgrading to Win2k. There were a few things in common with the two systems. They both have: all the latest "Windows Updates" (no betas), Netscape 4.78, ZoneAlarm, IE 5.x, 3Com NICS (one PCMCIA, one PCI), with current drivers, Office 2000 Pro SP1, and some other stuff. The video cards are obviously different, though they are both running at 1024x768x16-bit. They are on completely seperate LANs. - Eric, http://www.InvisibleRobot.com/ > Interesting. I haven't noticed any excessive slowdowns under Windows 98 or Windows 95, on my 900 MHz AMD Athalon or on my 75 MHz Toshiba laptop (though the small screen on the latter makes using VNC a little tedious sometimes.) I wonder if there are particular options you have to select for things to slow down? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From svenn@dstl.gov.uk Thu Sep 13 16:45:59 2001 From: svenn@dstl.gov.uk (Steven Venn) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:45:59 +0000 Subject: Further: Bandwidth Limitations Message-ID: I also failed to mention that our VNC client needs to run on a Compaq IPAQ which kind of rules out TightVNC. I have tried both our Wireless network and wired network, with the client and server being the only devices on the network. The findings as to VNC seeming to be band limited apply between and IPAQ and server over a wireless network and also a Laptop and server over a wired network. I am confident that the hardware I am using is not the limitation. (Thanks to those who have replied so far) We are trying to use Win VNC to view maps & info via a remote terminal, with this degree of complexity of information the update is very slow. What I would like to know is what is it that limits the VNC software from making the best available use of the bandwidth available. Our computers are connected via a 10MB network and yet the peak bandwidth used by VNC is about 11K p/sec. Also does anybody know how we can modify the software to make best use of the bandwidth available to the software. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Mark.Reeder@reuters.com Thu Sep 13 18:02:36 2001 From: Mark.Reeder@reuters.com (Mark.Reeder@reuters.com) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:02:36 +0000 Subject: .vnc Message-ID: On 13/09/2001 15:30:02 RUI PING SHI wrote: > Hallo, > > I think u can start any number of vncserver indepedent on .vnc. The only > thing u need to know is the server number. Indeed, I have been doing so. But now I want to have separate environments and vncserver passwords. The Password is encrypted in ~/.vnc/passwd. I want to do this without creating a bunch of new Unix users. rgds, Mark ----------------------------------------------------------------- Visit our Internet site at http://www.reuters.com Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Reuters Ltd. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From twaugh@redhat.com Thu Sep 13 18:13:49 2001 From: twaugh@redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:13:49 +0000 Subject: .vnc In-Reply-To: ; from Mark.Reeder@reuters.com on Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 04:55:14PM +0100 References: Message-ID: <20010913170945.Z6194@redhat.com> On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 04:55:14PM +0100, Mark.Reeder@reuters.com wrote: > Indeed, I have been doing so. But now I want to have separate environments > and vncserver passwords. The Password is encrypted in ~/.vnc/passwd. > > I want to do this without creating a bunch of new Unix users. The way to do this is to make copies of the /usr/bin/vncserver script with different names, one per environment, and alter the 'vncUserDir' line in each. Tim. */ [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From habermann@dow.com Thu Sep 13 18:33:28 2001 From: habermann@dow.com (Habermann, David (DA)) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:33:28 +0000 Subject: VNC Problem Message-ID: Rather than slow down my entire VNC experience, when using applications that behave this way I make frequent use of the "Request Screen Refresh" functionality by right-clicking on the VNC Viewer window icon in the task bar. I'll try the "smooth scrolling" thing for IE; I've also found that MS/Outlook has this offensive behavior as well. David Habermann - Eric, http://www.InvisibleRobot.com/ > If I open an IE browser window and access a > site and do scrolling ( Not very fast ) after > sometime the browser window does not display > properly. Most of the stuff from previous --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jmaton@viztek.net Thu Sep 13 18:51:27 2001 From: jmaton@viztek.net (Jonathan Maton) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:51:27 +0000 Subject: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on use rworkstation References: <57C3A1A862A3D511B8B400508BEAD5820124EB@MUE02> Message-ID: <005601c13c73$f2d622b0$6c886f0c@tupac> I wrote a small modification to WinVNC that displays a popup box on the server's screen, indicating: "A VNC has been authenticated from . Click OK to allow, REJECT to deny. This message will expire in seconds, allowing the connection automatically." This occurs after the vncviewer has already been prompted for and provided the correct password. The viewer sits on hold for a number of seconds (8 in my setup) while the server workstation has a chance to allow/deny the connection. If the timer expires, the connection is allowed automatically (useful for unmanned stations.) If you would like a copy of this (source and/or executable) please let me know. ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesch, Jvrg" To: "'VNC Mailing List'" Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:40 AM Subject: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on use rworkstation > Hi > I was wondering if it would be possible to add another option to the VNC > programm. > I'm administrating a small network and I want to install VNC on every > workstation. The problem is, I'm not allowed to do this unless VNC tells the > user, someone is connected every time I connect. I know the little symbol in > the sytemtray changes colors but it has to be something like a message box. > Everything else with VNC is great, I'm super happy with this usefull prog > and give the developers as much credits for their work as possible > > > Jvrg > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jacob@pgtc.com Thu Sep 13 22:35:34 2001 From: jacob@pgtc.com (Jacob Killian) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 21:35:34 +0000 Subject: vncviewer not starting Message-ID: <0109131532390C.16968@jacob.pgtc.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello- I've tried searching for this, to no avail. I've seen a reference to this problem on the web site docs, but am too ignorant to understand the suggestions, or the suggestions have not solved the problem. The problem: [[Win98 sshclient]]-[[Win2K sshd]] [[Win98 vncviewer 127.0.0.1:1]] -ssh tunnel-[[Win2K vncserver connect at 127.0.0.1:0]] I'm using tunnelier as the ssh client on the Win98 box. WinSSHD on the Win2K box. The ssh session completes successfully, and I'm able to tunnel other protocols, w/o a problem. When I go to start the vncviewer on the Win98 box (hextile, copyrect, 8-bit pixels), the ssh client and server logs show the tunnel created successfully, but the vncviewer never pops up the password prompt! The vncviewer shows up in the Win98 task manager, but nothing ever happens. I am able to duplicate this using multiple clients. I have tried adding a password to the Windows logon on the Win98 box, per the suggestion at: To no avail. I've also tried playing with the "Service Helper", but it doesn't help, and doesn't seem to do much. Any suggestions? I'd much rather not have to use WinXX, but such is life... Thank you! - -- Jacob Killian System Administrator PGTC Internet jacob@pgtc.com http://www.pgtc.com 501-846-7245 ============================================ Such folly friend Such a waste of time You could get paid for just such a crime There's only money There's only fame When you play The vandal's game And they're gratin' in The Goodnight holler To get a piece of the real estate dollar One million years Of the master's landscape Gone with a pen stroke smile and a handshake Oh me oh my it's gone it's gone it's gone - --"BARREL SPRINGS" (Mark Bilyeu/Jody Bilyeu) ============================================ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7oRfrVNUHoXz2/TkRApq5AJwObU9D83OxQXq0SBqXyGUULMV0HACdHMcG v+0Ck5f1SGO/0SmxK1NdT38= =q1OL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ccah@thegreen.co.uk Thu Sep 13 22:35:42 2001 From: ccah@thegreen.co.uk (Ceri Hankey) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 21:35:42 +0000 Subject: Compatibility References: <000001c13bb8$70cd2b80$6401a8c0@kwkw1.on.home.com> Message-ID: <000201c13c92$c4f86730$6764a8c0@ceri4> Golly!! How many computers do have in your house??? (Sorry) Ceri Hankey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Armstrong" To: "VNC Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:26 PM Subject: Re: Compatibility > I just answered my own question. After several attempts and many > mistakes I was able to get VNC and Terminal Services running on the same > machine. The "Remote Control" effect I was looking for now works. I can > now play my MP3's which are on the server in the basement on my stereo > in the living room, and control the play list from any computer in the > house. > > GOD I love VNC! > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jacob@pgtc.com Thu Sep 13 22:41:52 2001 From: jacob@pgtc.com (Jacob Killian) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 21:41:52 +0000 Subject: Fwd: vncviewer not starting -- more info Message-ID: <0109131537370D.16968@jacob.pgtc.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Oh, I forgot to mention that the vncviewer connects w/o problems if I don't tunnel through ssh. However, this is going to be useless to me if I can't get it to tunnel. Thanks again! Jacob - ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello- I've tried searching for this, to no avail. I've seen a reference to this problem on the web site docs, but am too ignorant to understand the suggestions, or the suggestions have not solved the problem. The problem: [[Win98 sshclient]]-[[Win2K sshd]] [[Win98 vncviewer 127.0.0.1:1]] -ssh tunnel-[[Win2K vncserver connect at 127.0.0.1:0]] I'm using tunnelier as the ssh client on the Win98 box. WinSSHD on the Win2K box. The ssh session completes successfully, and I'm able to tunnel other protocols, w/o a problem. When I go to start the vncviewer on the Win98 box (hextile, copyrect, 8-bit pixels), the ssh client and server logs show the tunnel created successfully, but the vncviewer never pops up the password prompt! The vncviewer shows up in the Win98 task manager, but nothing ever happens. I am able to duplicate this using multiple clients. I have tried adding a password to the Windows logon on the Win98 box, per the suggestion at: To no avail. I've also tried playing with the "Service Helper", but it doesn't help, and doesn't seem to do much. Any suggestions? I'd much rather not have to use WinXX, but such is life... Thank you! - - -- Jacob Killian System Administrator PGTC Internet jacob@pgtc.com http://www.pgtc.com 501-846-7245 ============================================ Such folly friend Such a waste of time You could get paid for just such a crime There's only money There's only fame When you play The vandal's game And they're gratin' in The Goodnight holler To get a piece of the real estate dollar One million years Of the master's landscape Gone with a pen stroke smile and a handshake Oh me oh my it's gone it's gone it's gone - - --"BARREL SPRINGS" (Mark Bilyeu/Jody Bilyeu) ============================================ - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7oRfrVNUHoXz2/TkRApq5AJwObU9D83OxQXq0SBqXyGUULMV0HACdHMcG v+0Ck5f1SGO/0SmxK1NdT38= =q1OL - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7oRkWVNUHoXz2/TkRAvCFAJ99BiKxrouSGY1zFDP9ESbq0uDfNwCdG5Bo EiO44WvdFHWKgH/WjweMt4Y= =whKo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Manuel.Lorenzo@HCAHealthcare.com Fri Sep 14 00:08:13 2001 From: Manuel.Lorenzo@HCAHealthcare.com (Lorenzo Manuel) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 23:08:13 +0000 Subject: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems o n use rworkstation Message-ID: I'm interested on this also. I have searched the site's documentation and have not found any information about this. If you know what needs to be edited in the registry, can you pass it along? It would be greatfully appreciated. Thanks, Manny -----Original Message----- From: Steve Palocz [mailto:spalocz@tgtsolutions.com] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:23 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on use rworkstation If you don't want to manually edit the registry then check out the tight version as there is an advanced option. www.tightvnc.com Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Lesch, Jvrg Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:57 AM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: AW: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on use rworkstation thanks for the hint. -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Steve Palocz [mailto:spalocz@tgtsolutions.com] Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 13. September 2001 15:01 An: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Betreff: RE: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on use rworkstation This is implemented, Please see the documentation. -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Lesch, Jvrg Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:41 AM To: 'VNC Mailing List' Subject: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on use rworkstation Hi I was wondering if it would be possible to add another option to the VNC programm. I'm administrating a small network and I want to install VNC on every workstation. The problem is, I'm not allowed to do this unless VNC tells the user, someone is connected every time I connect. I know the little symbol in the sytemtray changes colors but it has to be something like a message box. Everything else with VNC is great, I'm super happy with this usefull prog and give the developers as much credits for their work as possible Jvrg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From rudi.de.vos@skynet.be Fri Sep 14 02:18:01 2001 From: rudi.de.vos@skynet.be (De Vos Rudi) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 01:18:01 +0000 Subject: Speeding up and reducing traffic with fully working video driver Message-ID: <3BA14D4A.BEE7843@skynet.be> HI, Finaly i'm getting some good result with the driver. (only W2K) Winvnc don't need the message hooking anymore (except mouse). -polling modes are no langer needed to get screen updates. -scrolling and moving regions are well detected and most of the data can be passed as copyrects There is still work to do on the the winvnc server site. -James 'Wez' Weatherall notified me to look at the code from Xvnc and RDP2VNC to reduce update with copyrects. Winvnc send only the biggest copyrect ,.... need to be changed -hookdll should only check mouse events driver+winvncserver can be downloaded for testing (winvnc server is build with the source from tridia "more debugs build in") file: winvncdrv.zip http://services.simac.be/vnc/single/source changes after betadrv -copyrects are send 1 by 1 and verified with the normal region scan. -bitblits are copied to the backbuffer, not scanned -scan and no scan regions are subtract, no double rects anymore -added back mouse hooking Please test and send bugs or suggestions back. Groeten Rudi --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From malturk2@bellsouth.net Fri Sep 14 05:28:28 2001 From: malturk2@bellsouth.net (Muhamad Alturkistany) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 04:28:28 +0000 Subject: Java viewer is faster than native Windows Viewer!? References: <3BA0B405.D6DB4B83@InvisibleRobot.com> Message-ID: <002801c13ccc$852e8d20$70a34ed8@h884j> I don't think it is an issue of Windows 98/ME or Windows 2000. I found that Java VNC viewer (when using Microsoft Virtual Machine) is faster than the native Windows (Win 2000) viewer. This is very noticable over DSL connection to Xvnc Unix server. Also, I noticed this over LAN (10 Mbps) but to lesser degree. This not logical since the Java viewer incure the overhead of going through the Java Virtual Machine. While Windows VNC viewer does not incure this overhead and should be a lot faster. My analysis is that the Windows VNC viewer is not optimized specially its use of threads. Alturkistany ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Carlson" To: "VNC List" Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:26 AM Subject: re: Java viewer is faster than native Windows Viewer!? > I noticed that the VNC Viewer 3.3.3r9 is very slow if connecting from > a Windows 98/ME machine to a Windows NT 4.0 server, but is fine from a > Win2K machine. > > I think the VNC Viewer has issues with Windows 98/ME because it seems > to slow down the whole computer, and I've tried it on at least two > vastly different computers. > > One computer was a Toshiba laptop P-III/500 with 196.Meg RAM and > Windows 98, and the other was a Compaq Presario desktop Celeron/633 with > 320.Meg RAM and WinME. After installing Windows 2000 Pro on both of > these, the VNC Viewer is much faster, and the other apps don't slow down > when I am running VNC Viewer. > > - Eric, http://www.InvisibleRobot.com/ > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From mohan@worldcare.com.my Fri Sep 14 06:21:38 2001 From: mohan@worldcare.com.my (Mohan Ram) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 05:21:38 +0000 Subject: Massive unanswerable problem with CDE & VNC (Running VNC on Solaris) References: Message-ID: <00ae01c13cd6$a1667980$e9a8a8c0@my.openmedix.net> G'Day, I've done exactly as you have written, actually I've been experimenting on the Xvnc-50. From a windows 98 client to the Ultra, all I see is on my /var/adm is "vnc-640x480x8[4694] from xx.xx.xx.xx 1410", but nothing pops up on the windows 98 machine.... Regards Mohan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edric Bulalacao" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 22:29 Subject: RE: Massive unanswerable problem with CDE & VNC (Running VNC on Solaris) > I've been able to run VNC on Solaris 2.6, 7, and 8 on Sparc and Intel > platforms just fine. > > Here are instructions on how to configure VNC to run on Solaris thru inetd: > Assumptions: > a) VNC binaries have been successfully created and placed in /usr/local/vnc > directory. > b) root access to machine to be able to edit services and inetd.conf files. > c) Support 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768 @ 256 color depth (change it according > to your preference) > d) Ports 5950, 5951, 5952 are free (change it according to your preference). > e) Access control disabled (no VNC password is asked prior to connecting). > Remove -ac switch if you wish access control enabled. > f) No shared sessions allowed. Remove -nevershared switch to allow shared > sessions. > g) When a user disconnects his VNC connection, terminate the X session. > Remove -once switch to allow continuation of sessions (not recommended for > security!). > > 1. Append the following lines to your /etc/inet/services file: > > # VNC Server > vnc-640x480x8 5950/tcp > vnc-800x600x8 5951/tcp > vnc-1024x768x8 5952/tcp > > 2. Append the following lines to your /etc/inet/inetd.conf file: > > # VNC Server > vnc-640x480x8 stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/vnc/Xvnc-50 Xvnc > vnc-800x600x8 stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/vnc/Xvnc-51 Xvnc > vnc-1024x768x8 stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/vnc/Xvnc-52 Xvnc > > 3. Create these three script files and put them in /usr/local/vnc: > Xvnc-50 > ======= > #!/bin/sh > /usr/local/vnc/Xvnc -inetd -query localhost -once -fp > tcp/localhost:7100 -geometry 640x480 -depth 8 -ac -nevershared > > Xvnc-51 > ======= > #!/bin/sh > /usr/local/vnc/Xvnc -inetd -query localhost -once -fp > tcp/localhost:7100 -geometry 800x600 -depth 8 -ac -nevershared > > Xvnc-52 > ======= > #!/bin/sh > /usr/local/vnc/Xvnc -inetd -query localhost -once -fp > tcp/localhost:7100 -geometry 1024x768 -depth 8 -ac -nevershared > > > Note: Each script file is only 2 lines long. The second line of text is > just too long to fit in the same line, but it should be in the same line. > > > 4. Issue these commands to force inetd to re-read the new configuration (or > reboot machine): > ps -ef |grep inetd > kill -1 PID > > Note: The first command will give you the process ID (PID) of inetd. The > second command will issue a SIGHUP on the inetd process, where PID is the > process ID from the first command. > > 5. Use a VNC client and point it to the machine's IP address (or hostname) > and specify the desired port. > Example: myserver:5951 (will connect to machine at 800x600 resolution) > > Done. > > > > I've been having a problem with VNC with Solaris 8 that has been > > driving me > > CRAZY. Here is the scoop: > > > > I'm trying to run CDE over VNC. I cannot get it to work. > > > > The consistent error I always receive in startlog is: > > /usr/dt/bin/dthello: display unix:1.0 doesn't know font -dt-interface > > system-med > > ium-r-normal-l*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > > /usr/dt/bin/dthello: display unix:1.0 doesn't know font fixed > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andy.Woo@ClubZ.org Fri Sep 14 06:34:02 2001 From: Andy.Woo@ClubZ.org (Andy Woo) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 05:34:02 +0000 Subject: Win2K, VNC, ZoneAlarm References: <20010913080934.26171.qmail@web11602.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3BA18942.27D3D127@ClubZ.org> Thanks for the suggestion. I tried it. Same thing happens... ZoneALarm starts... but the next command is never executed.... and it's like it's waiting for the application to finish before proceeding onto the next line... so the batch file is 'suspended'. I basically have to kill the window.... as even the ol' ctrl-C doesn't kill the batch file. Long names weren't an issue. I'm running Win2K with NTFS. Andy Stefane Bridy wrote: > > For the batch file, try to put CALL before the zone alarm line, > as I remember that depending on the program started from the > batch file, then batch file is terminated, unless this command > was used. > > So it'd be: > > call "c:\Program Files\ZoneAlarm\zonealarm.exe" -nopopup > "c:\Program Files\ORL\VNC\WinVNC.exe" -run > > or maybe, in case of errors because of longnames, depending of > the configuration of your system: > call c:\Progra~1\ZoneAl~1\zoneal~1.exe -nopopup > "c:\Program Files\ORL\VNC\WinVNC.exe" -run > > Hope it works ... > > ===== Your problem was : ========== > I created a batch file with two lines.. the first line running > ZoneAlarm, > the second running VNC... but when I run the batch file... after > > running > ZoneAlarm,... it never returns to continue to run VNC. I'm > probably missing > something very simple and basic. > > The file is pretty straigthforward : > > "c:\Program Files\ZoneAlarm\zonealarm.exe" -nopopup > "c:\Program Files\ORL\VNC\WinVNC.exe" -run > > Can someone please help me out? > > Thanks in advance, > > Andy > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Construye tu pagina personal en Yahoo! GeoCities. !Es facil, > rapido y gratis! http://geocities.yahoo.com.mx > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From marius@cadvision.com Fri Sep 14 08:08:18 2001 From: marius@cadvision.com (Marius Zydyk) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 07:08:18 +0000 Subject: Java viewer is faster than native Windows Viewer!? Message-ID: <200109140604.AAA07490@spool1.cadvision.com> The Java viewer reduces the display to 256 colours, presumably at the server (what's the point of sending over all that extra colour data if you're just gonna discard it). Now, I don't know what proportion of the data stream is colour info, but this could account for some of the speed up. Another possibility is that the Java viewer uses more optimized drawing routines, which just makes the display appear more responsive. vnc-list@uk.research.att.com wrote: >I don't think it is an issue of Windows 98/ME or Windows 2000. > >I found that Java VNC viewer (when using Microsoft Virtual Machine) is >faster >than the native Windows (Win 2000) viewer. This is very noticable over >DSL >connection to Xvnc Unix server. > >Also, I noticed this over LAN (10 Mbps) but to lesser degree. >This not logical since the Java viewer incure the overhead of going >through >the Java Virtual Machine. While Windows VNC viewer does not incure this >overhead and should be a lot faster. My analysis is that the Windows VNC >viewer >is not optimized specially its use of threads. > >Alturkistany > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Eric Carlson" >To: "VNC List" >Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:26 AM >Subject: re: Java viewer is faster than native Windows Viewer!? > > >> I noticed that the VNC Viewer 3.3.3r9 is very slow if connecting from >> a Windows 98/ME machine to a Windows NT 4.0 server, but is fine from a >> Win2K machine. >> >> I think the VNC Viewer has issues with Windows 98/ME because it seems >> to slow down the whole computer, and I've tried it on at least two >> vastly different computers. >> >> One computer was a Toshiba laptop P-III/500 with 196.Meg RAM and >> Windows 98, and the other was a Compaq Presario desktop Celeron/633 >with >> 320.Meg RAM and WinME. After installing Windows 2000 Pro on both of >> these, the VNC Viewer is much faster, and the other apps don't slow >down >> when I am running VNC Viewer. >> >> - Eric, http://www.InvisibleRobot.com/ >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list >> to majordomo@uk.research.att.com >> See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list >to majordomo@uk.research.att.com >See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html >--------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Marius Zydyk -- marius.z@staff.cadvision.com CADVision Internet -- Programmer/Web Developer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From david@bbiltd.fsnet.co.uk Fri Sep 14 09:33:28 2001 From: david@bbiltd.fsnet.co.uk (David) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 08:33:28 +0000 Subject: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on use rworkstation In-Reply-To: <005601c13c73$f2d622b0$6c886f0c@tupac> Message-ID: Yes Please -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Jonathan Maton Sent: 13 September 2001 17:49 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on use rworkstation I wrote a small modification to WinVNC that displays a popup box on the server's screen, indicating: "A VNC has been authenticated from . Click OK to allow, REJECT to deny. This message will expire in seconds, allowing the connection automatically." This occurs after the vncviewer has already been prompted for and provided the correct password. The viewer sits on hold for a number of seconds (8 in my setup) while the server workstation has a chance to allow/deny the connection. If the timer expires, the connection is allowed automatically (useful for unmanned stations.) If you would like a copy of this (source and/or executable) please let me know. ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesch, Jvrg" To: "'VNC Mailing List'" Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:40 AM Subject: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on use rworkstation > Hi > I was wondering if it would be possible to add another option to the VNC > programm. > I'm administrating a small network and I want to install VNC on every > workstation. The problem is, I'm not allowed to do this unless VNC tells the > user, someone is connected every time I connect. I know the little symbol in > the sytemtray changes colors but it has to be something like a message box. > Everything else with VNC is great, I'm super happy with this usefull prog > and give the developers as much credits for their work as possible > > > Jvrg > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From JLesch@MUELLHEIM.HELIOS-KLINIKEN.de Fri Sep 14 09:33:36 2001 From: JLesch@MUELLHEIM.HELIOS-KLINIKEN.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Lesch=2C_J=F6rg=22?=) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 08:33:36 +0000 Subject: AW: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems o n use rworkstation Message-ID: <57C3A1A862A3D511B8B400508BEAD5820124EE@MUE02> Hi Thanks a lot to all you guys. I found what I was looking for at http://www.tightvnc.com/ ( thanks Steve Palocz). Great tool ! ! ! Greeds Jvrg -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Lorenzo Manuel [mailto:Manuel.Lorenzo@HCAHealthcare.com] Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 13. September 2001 17:12 An: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Betreff: RE: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems o n use rworkstation I'm interested on this also. I have searched the site's documentation and have not found any information about this. If you know what needs to be edited in the registry, can you pass it along? It would be greatfully appreciated. Thanks, Manny -----Original Message----- From: Steve Palocz [mailto:spalocz@tgtsolutions.com] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:23 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on use rworkstation If you don't want to manually edit the registry then check out the tight version as there is an advanced option. www.tightvnc.com Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Lesch, Jvrg Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:57 AM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: AW: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on use rworkstation thanks for the hint. -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Steve Palocz [mailto:spalocz@tgtsolutions.com] Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 13. September 2001 15:01 An: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Betreff: RE: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on use rworkstation This is implemented, Please see the documentation. -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Lesch, Jvrg Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:41 AM To: 'VNC Mailing List' Subject: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on use rworkstation Hi I was wondering if it would be possible to add another option to the VNC programm. I'm administrating a small network and I want to install VNC on every workstation. The problem is, I'm not allowed to do this unless VNC tells the user, someone is connected every time I connect. I know the little symbol in the sytemtray changes colors but it has to be something like a message box. Everything else with VNC is great, I'm super happy with this usefull prog and give the developers as much credits for their work as possible Jvrg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From stefane_bridy@yahoo.com Fri Sep 14 10:05:15 2001 From: stefane_bridy@yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Stefane=20Bridy?=) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 09:05:15 +0000 Subject: Win2K, VNC, ZoneAlarm In-Reply-To: <3BA18942.27D3D127@ClubZ.org> Message-ID: <20010914080028.72533.qmail@web11604.mail.yahoo.com> Another idea, but working only if ZoneAlarm creates a temporary file when started, with always the same name (maybe you could delete the log file at every restart, if you've got no use of it ?). So you could try to start ZoneAlarm normally and to start VNC with a batch file like this. wait: if not exist c:\pathOfTheFile\NameOfTempFile.xxx goto wait vncpath\winVNC.exe That's not very elegant and requests a good multitasking of your computer, as otherwise the loop could slow down a lot the startup process. I'm not aware of any delay command in DOS. Let me know how it goes. Good luck --- Andy Woo escribis: > Thanks for the suggestion. I tried it. Same thing happens... > ZoneALarm starts... but the next command is never executed.... > and > it's like it's waiting for the application to finish before > proceeding > onto the next line... so the batch file is 'suspended'. > > I basically have to kill the window.... as even the ol' ctrl-C > doesn't > kill the batch file. > > Long names weren't an issue. I'm running Win2K with NTFS. > > Andy > > Stefane Bridy wrote: > > > > For the batch file, try to put CALL before the zone alarm > line, > > as I remember that depending on the program started from the > > batch file, then batch file is terminated, unless this > command > > was used. > > > > So it'd be: > > > > call "c:\Program Files\ZoneAlarm\zonealarm.exe" -nopopup > > "c:\Program Files\ORL\VNC\WinVNC.exe" -run > > > > or maybe, in case of errors because of longnames, depending > of > > the configuration of your system: > > call c:\Progra~1\ZoneAl~1\zoneal~1.exe -nopopup > > "c:\Program Files\ORL\VNC\WinVNC.exe" -run > > > > Hope it works ... > > > > ===== Your problem was : ========== > > I created a batch file with two lines.. the first line > running > > ZoneAlarm, > > the second running VNC... but when I run the batch file... > after > > > > running > > ZoneAlarm,... it never returns to continue to run VNC. I'm > > probably missing > > something very simple and basic. > > > > The file is pretty straigthforward : > > > > "c:\Program Files\ZoneAlarm\zonealarm.exe" -nopopup > > "c:\Program Files\ORL\VNC\WinVNC.exe" -run > > > > Can someone please help me out? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Andy > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Construye tu pagina personal en Yahoo! GeoCities. !Es facil, > > rapido y gratis! http://geocities.yahoo.com.mx > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe > vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe > vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Construye tu pagina personal en Yahoo! GeoCities. !Es facil, rapido y gratis! http://geocities.yahoo.com.mx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Fri Sep 14 10:28:02 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 09:28:02 +0000 Subject: javanet.NoRoute to hostException: Operation Message-ID: I've posted this a few times but nobody appears to know... I've still got the problem of "javanet.NoRoute to hostException: Operation timed out." after trying to connect from anywhere to a SDSL NAT routed vnc server (5800/5900). The Serverapplet with browser appears but nothing happens after trying to log in. After a few seconds the above message. Using the viewer I get a black screen (using commander) or no screen using viewer) and after a few seconds I get "failed to connect to server/host" [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From JLesch@MUELLHEIM.HELIOS-KLINIKEN.de Fri Sep 14 12:02:41 2001 From: JLesch@MUELLHEIM.HELIOS-KLINIKEN.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Lesch=2C_J=F6rg=22?=) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 11:02:41 +0000 Subject: Changing the languae Message-ID: <57C3A1A862A3D511B8B400508BEAD5820124F2@MUE02> Hello again noe more problem I'm facing is, the user on the network don't know english I know this is unbeliveable but anyway is the allready translated version of VNC out or is there an easy way to change the output into german ? Please don't send me the source, since I don't have a Compiler for WInbox and I'm not famiiar with cross compiling Jvrg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Fri Sep 14 15:05:03 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 14:05:03 +0000 Subject: javanet.NoRoute to hostException: Operation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000101c13d1c$509364a0$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> K. Have you tried to connect with the native viewer, as I see you are still trying the web based. Can you telnet to that port and get a RFB 003.003 message appear. You should also state what the OS is and maybe if you can find it, the version of vnc you are using. How about the software that is running the NAT. Or the os of the firewall, is it just a device. Now you see why no one knows. WE DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT YOUR SETUP. We can't help those that don't help themselves. have you searched the mailing list as this has been discussed many times in the past. It is either your mapping, or connection, or firewall rules, or or or. Hope that helps Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 4:28 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: javanet.NoRoute to hostException: Operation I've posted this a few times but nobody appears to know... I've still got the problem of "javanet.NoRoute to hostException: Operation timed out." after trying to connect from anywhere to a SDSL NAT routed vnc server (5800/5900). The Serverapplet with browser appears but nothing happens after trying to log in. After a few seconds the above message. Using the viewer I get a black screen (using commander) or no screen using viewer) and after a few seconds I get "failed to connect to server/host" [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From markus.becker@seibtundstraub.de Fri Sep 14 15:07:53 2001 From: markus.becker@seibtundstraub.de (Markus Becker) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 14:07:53 +0000 Subject: Speeding up and reducing traffic with fully working video driver References: <3BA14D4A.BEE7843@skynet.be> Message-ID: <000701c13d1d$5e4cc540$7401a8c0@mbneu> Hi, I just did some short test using winvncdrv.zip. I think this will be a major improvement for the win2k platform of vnc - great job Rudi! test: w2k/sp2, ati rage xl agp 2x, lan 100mbit. netmeeting works fine. netmeeting remote desktop sharing was disabled before testing. Viewer: vncviewer 3.3.3 probs: some big screen-changes completely missed randomly(Start wordpad: no update. Close/reopen: perfect) some small screen-changes are missed. The flashing cursor of a command-prompt window shows only if the mouse is placed very close to it. Typing into the command-line: only the bottom scanline of each character shows - not shure but it might be some kind of an offset-problem. the problems change slightly if color-depth/resolution is changed, but i found no setting that worked without problem. it would help me to know if these problems are general or specific to my test-system/layout. suggestions rename mirror.sys to something with vnc... Markus markus.becker@seibtundstraub.de ----- Original Message ----- From: "De Vos Rudi" <.de.vos@skrudiynet.be> To: ; "Tridia Developer List" ; "James ''Wez'' Weatherall" Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:20 AM Subject: Speeding up and reducing traffic with fully working video driver > HI, > > Finaly i'm getting some good result with the driver. (only W2K) > Winvnc don't need the message hooking anymore (except mouse). > -polling modes are no langer needed to get screen updates. > -scrolling and moving regions are well detected and most of the data can > be passed as copyrects > > > > There is still work to do on the the winvnc server site. > -James 'Wez' Weatherall notified me to look at the code from Xvnc and > RDP2VNC to reduce update > with copyrects. Winvnc send only the biggest copyrect ,.... need to be > changed > -hookdll should only check mouse events > > driver+winvncserver can be downloaded for testing > (winvnc server is build with the source from tridia "more debugs build > in") > file: winvncdrv.zip > http://services.simac.be/vnc/single/source > > changes after betadrv > -copyrects are send 1 by 1 and verified with the normal region scan. > -bitblits are copied to the backbuffer, not scanned > -scan and no scan regions are subtract, no double rects anymore > -added back mouse hooking > > > Please test and send bugs or suggestions back. > > Groeten > Rudi > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From dumas@centre-cired.fr Fri Sep 14 15:13:35 2001 From: dumas@centre-cired.fr (Dumas Patrice) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 14:13:35 +0000 Subject: exiting window manager doesn't stop vncviewer Message-ID: <20010914150650.B23997@zeus.centre-cired.fr> Hi, server and viewer are on linux (redhat 7.0). The vncserver is properly started on server (with -nolisten tcp, but I don't think it is an issue). I have a vncviewer session started like that (the reality is much more complex, but you get the idea): xinit vncviewer -fullscreen server:1 -- X Then, when I stop the window manager, be it kde or twm, the session isn't properly closed, and the vncviewer isn't killed. I still can kill it in the console from which it started, with ctrl-c. It is possible that I am missing something, but I have no idea of what it could be. Any hints appreciated. Pat --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Fri Sep 14 15:32:27 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 14:32:27 +0000 Subject: exiting window manager doesn't stop vncviewer In-Reply-To: <20010914150650.B23997@zeus.centre-cired.fr> Message-ID: <000f01c13d21$718a7900$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> On the server if using Xvnc add -once if using vncserver then find the cmd line and add one with -once. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Dumas Patrice Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 9:07 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: exiting window manager doesn't stop vncviewer Hi, server and viewer are on linux (redhat 7.0). The vncserver is properly started on server (with -nolisten tcp, but I don't think it is an issue). I have a vncviewer session started like that (the reality is much more complex, but you get the idea): xinit vncviewer -fullscreen server:1 -- X Then, when I stop the window manager, be it kde or twm, the session isn't properly closed, and the vncviewer isn't killed. I still can kill it in the console from which it started, with ctrl-c. It is possible that I am missing something, but I have no idea of what it could be. Any hints appreciated. Pat --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Eric@InvisibleRobot.com Fri Sep 14 15:34:10 2001 From: Eric@InvisibleRobot.com (Eric Carlson) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 14:34:10 +0000 Subject: VNC Problem Message-ID: <3BA206E6.63FF362E@InvisibleRobot.com> I've done that and it is such a pain. I am much more productive using "Poll full screen", even though the response is slower. If I didn't have to go to such extremes to refresh the screen, I might prefer manual refresh, like if I could use the center mouse button to do a refresh instead of having to select it from a menu each time. > I make frequent use of the "Request Screen Refresh" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From mohan@worldcare.com.my Fri Sep 14 15:53:33 2001 From: mohan@worldcare.com.my (Mohan Ram) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 14:53:33 +0000 Subject: exiting window manager doesn't stop vncviewer References: <000f01c13d21$718a7900$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> Message-ID: <003701c13d26$79650640$e9a8a8c0@my.openmedix.net> What if I want to leave the session untouched, so that I can get back to it later. ie when connecting again, my work, is still there........ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Palocz" To: Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 21:30 Subject: RE: exiting window manager doesn't stop vncviewer > On the server if using Xvnc add -once > if using vncserver then find the cmd line and add one with -once. > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Dumas Patrice > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 9:07 AM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: exiting window manager doesn't stop vncviewer > > > Hi, > server and viewer are on linux (redhat 7.0). The vncserver is properly > started > on server (with -nolisten tcp, but I don't think it is an issue). > I have a vncviewer session started like that (the reality is much more > complex, > but you get the idea): > > xinit vncviewer -fullscreen server:1 -- X > > Then, when I stop the window manager, be it kde or twm, the session isn't > properly closed, and the vncviewer isn't killed. I still can kill it in the > console > from which it started, with ctrl-c. It is possible that I am missing > something, but I have no idea of what it could be. > > Any hints appreciated. > > Pat > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ellis@vesicle.dental.upenn.edu Fri Sep 14 15:56:23 2001 From: ellis@vesicle.dental.upenn.edu (Ellis Golub) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 14:56:23 +0000 Subject: VNC Problem In-Reply-To: Suresh Mahalingam "VNC Problem" (Sep 7, 11:37am) References: m<0999887849Fri-0700.msuresh_2001@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1010914095213.ZM22406@vesicle.dental.upenn.edu> Suresh -- I'm running vncviewer on an SGI under IRIX 6.5 and WinVNC as a service under NT4SP6a. I have similar screen refresh problems. I found, quite by accident, that if the VNC service helper is running, the screen refreshes properly. I have put the service helper in a Startup folder, so it loads automatically when I logon. Ellis On Sep 7, 11:37am, Suresh Mahalingam wrote: > Subject: VNC Problem > Hi, > > I have a VNC 3.3.3r7 server on Win2k. > When I try to access this from 3.3.3r3 solaris > client ( installed on 2.6 ) or from 3.3.3r9 > win98 client I face the following problem: > > If I open an IE browser window and access a > site and do scrolling ( Not very fast ) after > sometime the browser window does not display > properly. Most of the stuff from previous > scroll page is left over. However if I move > the cursor back and forth on the browser window > the cursor acts like a wipe and "cleans" out old > stuff exposing the correct content that should > be displayed. > > Is this a know problem. Can I do something to fix it? > > Thanks, > Suresh. > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ >-- End of excerpt from Suresh Mahalingam -- ============================================================= Ellis Golub Phone: (215) 898-4629 Biochemistry Department FAX: (215) 898-3695 University of Pennsylvania ellis@biochem.dental.upenn.edu School of Dental Medicine 4001 Spruce Street Philadelphia, PA 19104-6003 Home: http://biochem.dental.upenn.edu/~ellis/ PGP: http://biochem.dental.upenn.edu/~ellis/public_key.html ============================================================== --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From wmheath@juno.com Fri Sep 14 16:49:59 2001 From: wmheath@juno.com (bill m heath) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 15:49:59 +0000 Subject: getting Iexpoder to work as the viewer Message-ID: <20010914.074242.-308873.4.wmheath@juno.com> My interpretation is that Internet explorer will work as a remote control station for a windows based machine running WinVNC. I've tried many combinations of switches however I've not gotten past the grey screen it opens the channel with. I set up the server (winvnc) with screen 2 fixed as the guide example gives however when I type the URL from I E I can't see the server screen. I've tried http://192.168.0.2 : 5802 however all I see after it loads is a blank grey screen. Any help I need something like this for Intranet and Internet. William. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From antonio.gould@cableinet.co.uk Fri Sep 14 17:25:06 2001 From: antonio.gould@cableinet.co.uk (Antonio Gould) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 16:25:06 +0000 Subject: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message Message-ID: <000401c13d30$b0a7dc40$0900a8c0@COMPUTER> Hi all, I know this is a common question but I've looked through all of the archives without finding the answer to my problem. I have VNC installed on a Windows 2000 machine at a 640x480 resolution. When I try to log in from my Windows 98 machine I keep getting the message "Connection Closed". If I try to log in from a Macintosh I get the message "T_DISCONNECT received on connection 2b58634". If you need to know anything else about the setup, just ask and I'll get straight back. Thanks in advance, Antonio --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Thompson@pbworld.com Fri Sep 14 17:47:22 2001 From: Thompson@pbworld.com (Thompson, Dale W.) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 16:47:22 +0000 Subject: NT Administrator can't change Properties of VNC Message-ID: <87B796110156D511AC1C00508BB88FF20B4D54@sfom1> I have installed WinVNC on a number of NT 4.0 machines. I wanted to restrict the user's ability to change the password and to close the VNC application in the taskbar, so before installing the program on each workstation I imported this .REG file into the registry: REGEDIT4 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\VNC] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\VNC\3.3.3] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3\Default] "AllowProperties"=dword:00000000 "AllowShutdown"=dword:00000000 "SocketConnect"=dword:00000001 "AutoPortSelect"=dword:00000001 "InputsEnabled"=dword:00000001 "LocalInputsDisabled"=dword:00000000 "IdleTimeout"=dword:00000000 "QuerySetting"=dword:00000002 "QueryTimeout"=dword:0000000a "Password"=hex:xx,xx,xx,xx,xx,xx,xx,xx "PollUnderCursor"=dword:00000000 "PollForeground"=dword:00000001 "PollFullScreen"=dword:00000000 "OnlyPollConsole"=dword:00000001 "OnlyPollOnEvent"=dword:00000000 which was an export from a machine where I had configured it the way I wanted. So far so good. I can connect with each machine just fine, and everything is working well, except... The Properties entry (and the Close entry for that matter) on the VNC icon's pop-up menu is grayed out, even when I am logged in as Administrator, or someone else in the Administrators group. And when I try to run Start/Programs/VNC/Administrative Tools/Show Default Settings I get a dialog with a title of WinVNC Error and the message says "This machine as been preconfigured with WinVNC settings, which cannot be overridden by individual users. The preconfigured settings may be modified only by a System Administrator." Well, I AM THE ADMINISTRATOR! I've looked at the documentation on the website for WinVNC but can't find any information on this particular problem. Any help or words of advice? Thanks, Dale Thompson --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Thompson@pbworld.com Fri Sep 14 17:53:09 2001 From: Thompson@pbworld.com (Thompson, Dale W.) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 16:53:09 +0000 Subject: Win2K, VNC, ZoneAlarm Message-ID: <87B796110156D511AC1C00508BB88FF20B4D55@sfom1> Try changing "call" to "start" in your batch file. -----Original Message----- From: Andy Woo [mailto:Andy.Woo@ClubZ.org] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:36 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Win2K, VNC, ZoneAlarm Thanks for the suggestion. I tried it. Same thing happens... ZoneALarm starts... but the next command is never executed.... and it's like it's waiting for the application to finish before proceeding onto the next line... so the batch file is 'suspended'. I basically have to kill the window.... as even the ol' ctrl-C doesn't kill the batch file. Long names weren't an issue. I'm running Win2K with NTFS. Andy Stefane Bridy wrote: > > For the batch file, try to put CALL before the zone alarm line, > as I remember that depending on the program started from the > batch file, then batch file is terminated, unless this command > was used. > > So it'd be: > > call "c:\Program Files\ZoneAlarm\zonealarm.exe" -nopopup > "c:\Program Files\ORL\VNC\WinVNC.exe" -run > > or maybe, in case of errors because of longnames, depending of > the configuration of your system: > call c:\Progra~1\ZoneAl~1\zoneal~1.exe -nopopup > "c:\Program Files\ORL\VNC\WinVNC.exe" -run > > Hope it works ... > > ===== Your problem was : ========== > I created a batch file with two lines.. the first line running > ZoneAlarm, > the second running VNC... but when I run the batch file... after > > running > ZoneAlarm,... it never returns to continue to run VNC. I'm > probably missing > something very simple and basic. > > The file is pretty straigthforward : > > "c:\Program Files\ZoneAlarm\zonealarm.exe" -nopopup > "c:\Program Files\ORL\VNC\WinVNC.exe" -run > > Can someone please help me out? > > Thanks in advance, > > Andy > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Construye tu pagina personal en Yahoo! GeoCities. !Es facil, > rapido y gratis! http://geocities.yahoo.com.mx > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From antonio.gould@cableinet.co.uk Fri Sep 14 18:11:24 2001 From: antonio.gould@cableinet.co.uk (Antonio Gould) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 17:11:24 +0000 Subject: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message Message-ID: <000601c13d36$a89d6460$0900a8c0@COMPUTER> (Don't know if this got through first time) Hi all, I know this is a common question but I've looked through all of the archives without finding the answer to my problem. I have VNC installed on a Windows 2000 machine at a 640x480 resolution. When I try to log in from my Windows 98 machine I keep getting the message "Connection Closed". If I try to log in from a Macintosh I get the message "T_DISCONNECT received on connection 2b58634". If you need to know anything else about the setup, just ask and I'll get straight back. Thanks in advance, Antonio - Antonio Gould 3form Digital Media http://www.3form.co.uk 0121 689 8779 07788 920 303 - --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From BoivinP@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca Fri Sep 14 18:42:16 2001 From: BoivinP@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca (Boivin, Patrice J) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 17:42:16 +0000 Subject: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message Message-ID: Antonio, your message did make it through. There is no support for VNC however, if you run into a problem more than likely you are on your own. It seems there are responses on the listserv, but they are mostly UNIX-related, probably due to the mix of people on the listserv. I posted a problem we have experienced here, a major problem (we can't authenticate at all), one person suggested I try the default ports (not an option, VNC has vulnerabilities to begin with), but no other suggestions. We get a "java.io.IOException error: Your session has been disconnected" as soon as we enter the password in the java applet and click on the button. It works for one NT server we wish to access, but not for the other. VNC is... freeware. With commercial software you can usually ask the vendor's dedicated support team to reproduce your problem, diagnose it, and find a workaround or produce a patch, but there does not appear to be anything like this for VNC. Especially VNC on NT. This is the same reason why LINUX is probably not going to make much of a headway with corporate clients, in most shops support must be available for a product to even be considered. Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Acting Head Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systhmes Technology Services | Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Rigion des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: boivinp@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Fri Sep 14 18:48:29 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 17:48:29 +0000 Subject: NT Administrator can't change Properties of VNC In-Reply-To: <87B796110156D511AC1C00508BB88FF20B4D54@sfom1> Message-ID: <001c01c13d3c$5e080300$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> easy. Make the reg file as: REGEDIT4 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\VNC] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\VNC\3.3.3] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3\Default] "AllowProperties"=dword:00000000 "AllowShutdown"=dword:00000000 "SocketConnect"=dword:00000001 "AutoPortSelect"=dword:00000001 "InputsEnabled"=dword:00000001 "LocalInputsDisabled"=dword:00000000 "IdleTimeout"=dword:00000000 "QuerySetting"=dword:00000002 "QueryTimeout"=dword:0000000a "Password"=hex:xx,xx,xx,xx,xx,xx,xx,xx "PollUnderCursor"=dword:00000000 "PollForeground"=dword:00000001 "PollFullScreen"=dword:00000000 "OnlyPollConsole"=dword:00000001 "OnlyPollOnEvent"=dword:00000000 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3\administrator] "AllowProperties"=dword:00000001 "AllowShutdown"=dword:00000001 "SocketConnect"=dword:00000001 "AutoPortSelect"=dword:00000001 "InputsEnabled"=dword:00000001 "LocalInputsDisabled"=dword:00000000 "IdleTimeout"=dword:00000000 "QuerySetting"=dword:00000002 "QueryTimeout"=dword:0000000a "Password"=hex:xx,xx,xx,xx,xx,xx,xx,xx "PollUnderCursor"=dword:00000000 "PollForeground"=dword:00000001 "PollFullScreen"=dword:00000000 "OnlyPollConsole"=dword:00000001 "OnlyPollOnEvent"=dword:00000000 Now as you see you are adding another key that will be for the administrator. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Thompson, Dale W. Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 11:39 AM To: VNC-List (E-mail) Subject: NT Administrator can't change Properties of VNC I have installed WinVNC on a number of NT 4.0 machines. I wanted to restrict the user's ability to change the password and to close the VNC application in the taskbar, so before installing the program on each workstation I imported this .REG file into the registry: REGEDIT4 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\VNC] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\VNC\3.3.3] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3\Default] "AllowProperties"=dword:00000000 "AllowShutdown"=dword:00000000 "SocketConnect"=dword:00000001 "AutoPortSelect"=dword:00000001 "InputsEnabled"=dword:00000001 "LocalInputsDisabled"=dword:00000000 "IdleTimeout"=dword:00000000 "QuerySetting"=dword:00000002 "QueryTimeout"=dword:0000000a "Password"=hex:xx,xx,xx,xx,xx,xx,xx,xx "PollUnderCursor"=dword:00000000 "PollForeground"=dword:00000001 "PollFullScreen"=dword:00000000 "OnlyPollConsole"=dword:00000001 "OnlyPollOnEvent"=dword:00000000 which was an export from a machine where I had configured it the way I wanted. So far so good. I can connect with each machine just fine, and everything is working well, except... The Properties entry (and the Close entry for that matter) on the VNC icon's pop-up menu is grayed out, even when I am logged in as Administrator, or someone else in the Administrators group. And when I try to run Start/Programs/VNC/Administrative Tools/Show Default Settings I get a dialog with a title of WinVNC Error and the message says "This machine as been preconfigured with WinVNC settings, which cannot be overridden by individual users. The preconfigured settings may be modified only by a System Administrator." Well, I AM THE ADMINISTRATOR! I've looked at the documentation on the website for WinVNC but can't find any information on this particular problem. Any help or words of advice? Thanks, Dale Thompson --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Fri Sep 14 18:48:53 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 17:48:53 +0000 Subject: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message In-Reply-To: <000401c13d30$b0a7dc40$0900a8c0@COMPUTER> Message-ID: <001d01c13d3c$cae32360$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> First question, have you got vnc working anywhere? Next question, what is the depth set at, I understand 640x480 but 16 colours 16 bit true...? next have you set the default password. start -> programs -> vnc -> administrative tools -> show default settings. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Antonio Gould Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 11:20 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message Hi all, I know this is a common question but I've looked through all of the archives without finding the answer to my problem. I have VNC installed on a Windows 2000 machine at a 640x480 resolution. When I try to log in from my Windows 98 machine I keep getting the message "Connection Closed". If I try to log in from a Macintosh I get the message "T_DISCONNECT received on connection 2b58634". If you need to know anything else about the setup, just ask and I'll get straight back. Thanks in advance, Antonio --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From carlosalfaro@yahoo.com Fri Sep 14 18:59:57 2001 From: carlosalfaro@yahoo.com (Carlos Alfaro) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 17:59:57 +0000 Subject: AuthHosts QuerySetting to allow sessiom Message-ID: <20010914165726.96507.qmail@web10006.mail.yahoo.com> I know that TridiaVNC has a registry setting to allow the "?" ipchain in the AuthHosts registry key to allow access to a machine if there is no response from the user(in case the user is not there and there is a need to control the machine) VNC from AT&T does not have this setting. Does anyone know if its planned for a future release? Or does anyone know if the AuthHosts and QuerySetting can be change/edited to allow for an Administrator log in when ther is no user signed-on to the machine - for isntance after hours? to work on the machine? I would like to stick to the pure form of VNC unless someone can suggest other options. Thanks in davance. __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Thompson@pbworld.com Fri Sep 14 19:35:08 2001 From: Thompson@pbworld.com (Thompson, Dale W.) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 18:35:08 +0000 Subject: NT Administrator can't change Properties of VNC Message-ID: <87B796110156D511AC1C00508BB88FF20B4D59@sfom1> Thanks Steve. I knew there had to be something fairly simple I was overlooking. Do you know if this would work for groups? IOW, if I made it "[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3\Administrators]" (with an "s"), would that allow everyone in the Administrators group on the local machine able to make these changes? Also, do you think that the added section below could be shortened to: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3\administrator] "AllowProperties"=dword:00000001 "AllowShutdown"=dword:00000001 and leave all the other settings under "Default", since they are all the same? Thanks again for your help. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Palocz [mailto:spalocz@tgtsolutions.com] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 9:43 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: NT Administrator can't change Properties of VNC easy. Make the reg file as: REGEDIT4 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\VNC] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\VNC\3.3.3] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3\Default] "AllowProperties"=dword:00000000 "AllowShutdown"=dword:00000000 "SocketConnect"=dword:00000001 "AutoPortSelect"=dword:00000001 "InputsEnabled"=dword:00000001 "LocalInputsDisabled"=dword:00000000 "IdleTimeout"=dword:00000000 "QuerySetting"=dword:00000002 "QueryTimeout"=dword:0000000a "Password"=hex:xx,xx,xx,xx,xx,xx,xx,xx "PollUnderCursor"=dword:00000000 "PollForeground"=dword:00000001 "PollFullScreen"=dword:00000000 "OnlyPollConsole"=dword:00000001 "OnlyPollOnEvent"=dword:00000000 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3\administrator] "AllowProperties"=dword:00000001 "AllowShutdown"=dword:00000001 "SocketConnect"=dword:00000001 "AutoPortSelect"=dword:00000001 "InputsEnabled"=dword:00000001 "LocalInputsDisabled"=dword:00000000 "IdleTimeout"=dword:00000000 "QuerySetting"=dword:00000002 "QueryTimeout"=dword:0000000a "Password"=hex:xx,xx,xx,xx,xx,xx,xx,xx "PollUnderCursor"=dword:00000000 "PollForeground"=dword:00000001 "PollFullScreen"=dword:00000000 "OnlyPollConsole"=dword:00000001 "OnlyPollOnEvent"=dword:00000000 Now as you see you are adding another key that will be for the administrator. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Thompson, Dale W. Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 11:39 AM To: VNC-List (E-mail) Subject: NT Administrator can't change Properties of VNC I have installed WinVNC on a number of NT 4.0 machines. I wanted to restrict the user's ability to change the password and to close the VNC application in the taskbar, so before installing the program on each workstation I imported this .REG file into the registry: REGEDIT4 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\VNC] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\VNC\3.3.3] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3\Default] "AllowProperties"=dword:00000000 "AllowShutdown"=dword:00000000 "SocketConnect"=dword:00000001 "AutoPortSelect"=dword:00000001 "InputsEnabled"=dword:00000001 "LocalInputsDisabled"=dword:00000000 "IdleTimeout"=dword:00000000 "QuerySetting"=dword:00000002 "QueryTimeout"=dword:0000000a "Password"=hex:xx,xx,xx,xx,xx,xx,xx,xx "PollUnderCursor"=dword:00000000 "PollForeground"=dword:00000001 "PollFullScreen"=dword:00000000 "OnlyPollConsole"=dword:00000001 "OnlyPollOnEvent"=dword:00000000 which was an export from a machine where I had configured it the way I wanted. So far so good. I can connect with each machine just fine, and everything is working well, except... The Properties entry (and the Close entry for that matter) on the VNC icon's pop-up menu is grayed out, even when I am logged in as Administrator, or someone else in the Administrators group. And when I try to run Start/Programs/VNC/Administrative Tools/Show Default Settings I get a dialog with a title of WinVNC Error and the message says "This machine as been preconfigured with WinVNC settings, which cannot be overridden by individual users. The preconfigured settings may be modified only by a System Administrator." Well, I AM THE ADMINISTRATOR! I've looked at the documentation on the website for WinVNC but can't find any information on this particular problem. Any help or words of advice? Thanks, Dale Thompson --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Fri Sep 14 19:36:22 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 18:36:22 +0000 Subject: AuthHosts QuerySetting to allow sessiom In-Reply-To: <20010914165726.96507.qmail@web10006.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001e01c13d42$f08b9560$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> Yes you can, right now the settings are in default in hkeylocalmachine/software/orl/winvnc This is for all users by default if you want the Administrator to have different settings. then make a hkeylocalmachine/software/orl/winvnc/administrator. if you want it for the login screen when noone is loged in use system. Hope this helps Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Carlos Alfaro Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 12:57 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: AuthHosts QuerySetting to allow sessiom I know that TridiaVNC has a registry setting to allow the "?" ipchain in the AuthHosts registry key to allow access to a machine if there is no response from the user(in case the user is not there and there is a need to control the machine) VNC from AT&T does not have this setting. Does anyone know if its planned for a future release? Or does anyone know if the AuthHosts and QuerySetting can be change/edited to allow for an Administrator log in when ther is no user signed-on to the machine - for isntance after hours? to work on the machine? I would like to stick to the pure form of VNC unless someone can suggest other options. Thanks in davance. __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From zmargareten@CJH.org Fri Sep 14 19:42:32 2001 From: zmargareten@CJH.org (Zalman Margareten) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 18:42:32 +0000 Subject: Changing the languae Message-ID: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126B3@CFJH> Is it for the viewer? Tell me what you would like to have replaced and I will compile for u. Make sure to include your email if different then JLesch@MUELLHEIM.HELIOS-KLINIKEN.de -----Original Message----- From: "Lesch, Jvrg" [mailto:JLesch@MUELLHEIM.HELIOS-KLINIKEN.de] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 5:56 AM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: Changing the languae Hello again noe more problem I'm facing is, the user on the network don't know english I know this is unbeliveable but anyway is the allready translated version of VNC out or is there an easy way to change the output into german ? Please don't send me the source, since I don't have a Compiler for WInbox and I'm not famiiar with cross compiling Jvrg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From carlosalfaro@yahoo.com Fri Sep 14 19:49:24 2001 From: carlosalfaro@yahoo.com (Carlos Alfaro) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 18:49:24 +0000 Subject: AuthHosts QuerySetting to allow sessiom In-Reply-To: <001e01c13d42$f08b9560$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> Message-ID: <20010914174616.22703.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> Thanks I will try it. Just one more thing. If the case of win95/98 machines, would I have to create an "administrator" account for them? And will the changes for the Administrator allow me to access the machine even thou the local machine setting are set to reject a connection if there is no answer from the user? Thanks again... Carlos --- Steve Palocz wrote: > Yes you can, > right now the settings are in default in > hkeylocalmachine/software/orl/winvnc > This is for all users by default > if you want the Administrator to have different > settings. > then make a > hkeylocalmachine/software/orl/winvnc/administrator. > > if you want it for the login screen when noone is > loged in use system. > > Hope this helps > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf > Of Carlos Alfaro > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 12:57 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: AuthHosts QuerySetting to allow sessiom > > > I know that TridiaVNC has a registry setting to > allow > the "?" ipchain in the AuthHosts registry key to > allow > access to a machine if there is no response from the > user(in case the user is not there and there is a > need > to control the machine) > > VNC from AT&T does not have this setting. Does > anyone > know if its planned for a future release? > > Or does anyone know if the AuthHosts and > QuerySetting > can be change/edited to allow for an Administrator > log > in when ther is no user signed-on to the machine - > for > isntance after hours? to work on the machine? > > I would like to stick to the pure form of VNC unless > someone can suggest other options. > > Thanks in davance. > > __________________________________________________ > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > Donate cash, emergency relief information > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Fri Sep 14 19:55:36 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 18:55:36 +0000 Subject: NT Administrator can't change Properties of VNC In-Reply-To: <87B796110156D511AC1C00508BB88FF20B4D59@sfom1> Message-ID: <002101c13d46$41dea580$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> As for groups, no I don't think they will work. As for shortening, sure, if it isn't in the administrator then it will take it from default. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Thompson, Dale W. Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 1:27 PM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: NT Administrator can't change Properties of VNC Thanks Steve. I knew there had to be something fairly simple I was overlooking. Do you know if this would work for groups? IOW, if I made it "[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3\Administrators]" (with an "s"), would that allow everyone in the Administrators group on the local machine able to make these changes? Also, do you think that the added section below could be shortened to: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3\administrator] "AllowProperties"=dword:00000001 "AllowShutdown"=dword:00000001 and leave all the other settings under "Default", since they are all the same? Thanks again for your help. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Palocz [mailto:spalocz@tgtsolutions.com] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 9:43 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: NT Administrator can't change Properties of VNC easy. Make the reg file as: REGEDIT4 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\VNC] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\VNC\3.3.3] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3\Default] "AllowProperties"=dword:00000000 "AllowShutdown"=dword:00000000 "SocketConnect"=dword:00000001 "AutoPortSelect"=dword:00000001 "InputsEnabled"=dword:00000001 "LocalInputsDisabled"=dword:00000000 "IdleTimeout"=dword:00000000 "QuerySetting"=dword:00000002 "QueryTimeout"=dword:0000000a "Password"=hex:xx,xx,xx,xx,xx,xx,xx,xx "PollUnderCursor"=dword:00000000 "PollForeground"=dword:00000001 "PollFullScreen"=dword:00000000 "OnlyPollConsole"=dword:00000001 "OnlyPollOnEvent"=dword:00000000 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3\administrator] "AllowProperties"=dword:00000001 "AllowShutdown"=dword:00000001 "SocketConnect"=dword:00000001 "AutoPortSelect"=dword:00000001 "InputsEnabled"=dword:00000001 "LocalInputsDisabled"=dword:00000000 "IdleTimeout"=dword:00000000 "QuerySetting"=dword:00000002 "QueryTimeout"=dword:0000000a "Password"=hex:xx,xx,xx,xx,xx,xx,xx,xx "PollUnderCursor"=dword:00000000 "PollForeground"=dword:00000001 "PollFullScreen"=dword:00000000 "OnlyPollConsole"=dword:00000001 "OnlyPollOnEvent"=dword:00000000 Now as you see you are adding another key that will be for the administrator. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Thompson, Dale W. Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 11:39 AM To: VNC-List (E-mail) Subject: NT Administrator can't change Properties of VNC I have installed WinVNC on a number of NT 4.0 machines. I wanted to restrict the user's ability to change the password and to close the VNC application in the taskbar, so before installing the program on each workstation I imported this .REG file into the registry: REGEDIT4 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\VNC] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\VNC\3.3.3] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3\Default] "AllowProperties"=dword:00000000 "AllowShutdown"=dword:00000000 "SocketConnect"=dword:00000001 "AutoPortSelect"=dword:00000001 "InputsEnabled"=dword:00000001 "LocalInputsDisabled"=dword:00000000 "IdleTimeout"=dword:00000000 "QuerySetting"=dword:00000002 "QueryTimeout"=dword:0000000a "Password"=hex:xx,xx,xx,xx,xx,xx,xx,xx "PollUnderCursor"=dword:00000000 "PollForeground"=dword:00000001 "PollFullScreen"=dword:00000000 "OnlyPollConsole"=dword:00000001 "OnlyPollOnEvent"=dword:00000000 which was an export from a machine where I had configured it the way I wanted. So far so good. I can connect with each machine just fine, and everything is working well, except... The Properties entry (and the Close entry for that matter) on the VNC icon's pop-up menu is grayed out, even when I am logged in as Administrator, or someone else in the Administrators group. And when I try to run Start/Programs/VNC/Administrative Tools/Show Default Settings I get a dialog with a title of WinVNC Error and the message says "This machine as been preconfigured with WinVNC settings, which cannot be overridden by individual users. The preconfigured settings may be modified only by a System Administrator." Well, I AM THE ADMINISTRATOR! I've looked at the documentation on the website for WinVNC but can't find any information on this particular problem. Any help or words of advice? Thanks, Dale Thompson --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Fri Sep 14 20:06:37 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 19:06:37 +0000 Subject: AuthHosts QuerySetting to allow sessiom In-Reply-To: <20010914174616.22703.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002201c13d47$7fe3ea60$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> I haven't tried it on 9x, but it should work. As for the query time. you can add the settings to not have it or to auto accept. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Carlos Alfaro Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 1:46 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: AuthHosts QuerySetting to allow sessiom Thanks I will try it. Just one more thing. If the case of win95/98 machines, would I have to create an "administrator" account for them? And will the changes for the Administrator allow me to access the machine even thou the local machine setting are set to reject a connection if there is no answer from the user? Thanks again... Carlos --- Steve Palocz wrote: > Yes you can, > right now the settings are in default in > hkeylocalmachine/software/orl/winvnc > This is for all users by default > if you want the Administrator to have different > settings. > then make a > hkeylocalmachine/software/orl/winvnc/administrator. > > if you want it for the login screen when noone is > loged in use system. > > Hope this helps > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf > Of Carlos Alfaro > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 12:57 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: AuthHosts QuerySetting to allow sessiom > > > I know that TridiaVNC has a registry setting to > allow > the "?" ipchain in the AuthHosts registry key to > allow > access to a machine if there is no response from the > user(in case the user is not there and there is a > need > to control the machine) > > VNC from AT&T does not have this setting. Does > anyone > know if its planned for a future release? > > Or does anyone know if the AuthHosts and > QuerySetting > can be change/edited to allow for an Administrator > log > in when ther is no user signed-on to the machine - > for > isntance after hours? to work on the machine? > > I would like to stick to the pure form of VNC unless > someone can suggest other options. > > Thanks in davance. > > __________________________________________________ > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > Donate cash, emergency relief information > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From frank@dsea.com Fri Sep 14 20:56:28 2001 From: frank@dsea.com (Frank Evan Perdicaro) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 19:56:28 +0000 Subject: vnc-list-digest V1 #1272 In-Reply-To: ; from vnc-list-digest on Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 06:00:03AM +0100 References: Message-ID: <20010914115103.23134@mail.dsea.com> > We are trying to use Win VNC to view maps & info via a remote terminal, with > this degree of complexity of information the update is very slow. > What I would like to know is what is it that limits the VNC software from > making the best available use of the bandwidth available. Our computers are > connected via a 10MB network and yet the peak bandwidth used by VNC is about > 11K p/sec. > Also does anybody know how we can modify the software to make best use of > the bandwidth available to the software. For some time now I've thought about this problem with VNC. For a lot longer (decade) this subject has interested me in the more general are of human perception of computer-displayed information. VNC, and TightVNC in particular, do a good job of squeezing information across a pipe. You can help the speed quite a bit by reducing the information density of the scene (few colors, few color breaks) and reducing the scene size (use VGA size). To get better performance one needs to work on VNC so it prioritizes the information _so the human on the far end gets the most important information first_. This is a hard problem, but the framework of VNC permits solutions. The brain already works this way, and the tiling ability of VNC helps the solution a great deal. One of my proposals for VNC involves temporal-variable resolution and color depth. Basically the "important" part of the screen gets drawn in lower resolution black and white first. Ignoring boundary conditions associated with protocol overhead, when compared to full RGB, this approach gives a 96:1 reduction in data volume before further compression. Coding this is, as they say, a tough row to hoe. Can it be done? Yes. Would it work? Yes. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jamesvnclist@tnjinfl.com Fri Sep 14 21:47:40 2001 From: jamesvnclist@tnjinfl.com (James Pifer) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 20:47:40 +0000 Subject: Off Topic Message-ID: <015801c13d55$6f539e30$1d01a8c0@BugsBunny> I know this forum has a lot of Linux experience. Can anyone suggest a good Linux forum? RedHat specific if possible? Hopefully somthing that has good membership and timely responses such as this one. Thanks in Advance. James --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From kevinc@doink.com Sat Sep 15 09:20:19 2001 From: kevinc@doink.com (Kevin Cosgrove) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 08:20:19 +0000 Subject: AW: password protected screensaver causes "connection closed by peer" In-Reply-To: <000101c13c53$99f4e480$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> References: <20010912211621.228172FEA9@joseph.doink.com> <000101c13c53$99f4e480$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> Message-ID: <20010914234429.2993ac8c.kevinc@doink.com> F8 pops up the menu for me. Send ctrl+alt+del does't do anything visibly though. I ended up trying TightVNC on the Win2K machine. It's snappier than vanilla VNC, but it has the same trouble, in that vncviewer on my Solaris machine is kicked off anytime the Win2K screen locks. Does screen password locking on a Win2K machine, as the server, with the viewer running on Solaris work for anyone? If no one has got this to work, I'll give up and turn on/off password locking the screen as need be. Thanks.... On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:57:10 -0400 "Steve Palocz" wrote: > try hitting F8 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From joel@exc.com Sat Sep 15 16:58:11 2001 From: joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 15:58:11 +0000 Subject: changing the language In-Reply-To: vnc-list-digest's message of Sat, 15 Sep 2001 06:00:04 +0100 Message-ID: >noe more problem I'm facing is, the user on the network don't know english > >I know this is unbeliveable but anyway is the allready translated version of >VNC out or is there an easy way to change the output into german ? > >Please don't send me the source, since I don't have a Compiler for WInbox >and I'm not famiiar with cross compiling If you have a Unix setup and good editor (Emacs, for example) you can edit the Windows binary. Find the string you want to change, and --- BEING CAREFUL NOT TO ADD OR DELETE ANY CHARACTERS --- change the English message to German (or whatever). If the German is shorter than the English, I would recommend replacing the extra English letters with periods. It will still look fine. You have to make sure the German is not longer than the English. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From rudi.de.vos@skynet.be Sun Sep 16 18:01:23 2001 From: rudi.de.vos@skynet.be (De Vos Rudi) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:01:23 +0000 Subject: Speeding up and reducing traffic with fully working video driver Message-ID: <3BA4C81E.2A6A7F6A@skynet.be> probs: some big screen-changes completely missed randomly(Start wordpad: no update. Close/reopen: perfect) some small screen-changes are missed. The flashing cursor of a command-prompt window shows only if the mouse is placed very close to it. Typing into the command-line: only the bottom scanline of each character shows . it would help me to know if these problems are general or specific to my test-system/layout. -There was still a problem with the driver and vncserver, it has notting to do with your system. Made some changes and it seems solved on my system (ati-rage-128/PIII<-10Mb->PII). Even media player seems to work. New driver and vncserver(bin+src) available http://services.simac.be/vnc/single/source/winvncdrv1_01.zip thxs for the comments Rudi ps: updates from driver type= 1)blit from wire 2)blit from internal 3)copyrect 4)text rectangles README_BEFORE_INSTALL --------------------------------- 16/09/2001 THIS DRIVER ONLY WORKS ON WINDOWS 2000. The mirror tech used don't exist on older window versions. IF YOU HAVE AN OLDER DRIVER ALREADY INSTALLED. 1) remove older and install newer or 2) stopdriver, copy mirror.dll in system32 and overwrite older mirror.dll README ----------- 16/09/2001 -fix missing updates (during driver reset, updates where going in the air) -update rate set to 4/s (except when mouse moves) -ringbuffer cache 1500 driver updates, this should cover a few sec for slow systems, but when to slow all 1500 updates are gone. -added stopdriver util TODO -------- -The driver is able to provide (font,ascii text etc..) Text should be send as ascii and not bitmaps. -coprects should be combined and not send seperate. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From svenn@dstl.gov.uk Mon Sep 17 10:46:52 2001 From: svenn@dstl.gov.uk (Steven Venn) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:46:52 +0000 Subject: Bandwidth Limitation of VNC Message-ID: We are trying to use Win VNC to view maps & info via a remote terminal, with this degree of complexity of information the update is very slow. Our VNC client needs to run on a Compaq IPAQ which kind of rules out TightVNC. I have tried both our Wireless network and wired network, with the client and server being the only devices on the network. The findings as to VNC seeming to be band limited apply between an IPAQ and server over a wireless network and also a Laptop and server over a wired network. I am confident that the hardware I am using is not the limitation. I appreciate that VNC is designed to work well over low bandwidth connections, however what I would like to know is, what is it that limits the VNC software from making the best available use of the bandwidth available. Our computers are connected via a 10MB network and yet the peak bandwidth used by VNC is about 11K p/sec. Also does anybody know how we can modify the software to make best use of the bandwidth available to the software. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From nospam@codegnome.org Mon Sep 17 11:32:37 2001 From: nospam@codegnome.org (Todd A. Jacobs) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 10:32:37 +0000 Subject: Bandwidth Limitation of VNC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Steven Venn wrote: > Also does anybody know how we can modify the software to make best use > of the bandwidth available to the software. A lot has to do with the encoding method you choose. Are you using "copyrect hextile" or something else? If the former, you may want to try some of the other encodings (maybe even raw, if bandwidth really isn't the issue) to see if you can get better performance with different--or no--encoding. Also, you might want to consider the color depth of your display. It certainly takes less time to encode 8 bits than 24 or 32, although some people claim 16 works best (I'm not sure that I completely understand why, though). -- Work: It's not just a job, it's an indenture. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From antonio.gould@cableinet.co.uk Mon Sep 17 11:52:28 2001 From: antonio.gould@cableinet.co.uk (Antonio Gould) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 10:52:28 +0000 Subject: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message In-Reply-To: <001d01c13d3c$cae32360$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> Message-ID: <000d01c13f5d$5a0267a0$0900a8c0@COMPUTER> Hi Steve, Thanks for the reply. In answer to your questions: I had vnc working this way by using application mode (although this doesn't seem to work now). Other than that, no. The colours are set to 16 colours. This is becuase the server is only using the on-board graphics (as it never should have a monitor connected anyway) Re: Password - The connection closed message only occurs after I have typed in the correct password (If I type the wrong one it I get VNC authentication failed). Hope you can help! Regards, Antonio -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Steve Palocz Sent: 14 September 2001 17:46 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message First question, have you got vnc working anywhere? Next question, what is the depth set at, I understand 640x480 but 16 colours 16 bit true...? next have you set the default password. start -> programs -> vnc -> administrative tools -> show default settings. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Antonio Gould Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 11:20 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message Hi all, I know this is a common question but I've looked through all of the archives without finding the answer to my problem. I have VNC installed on a Windows 2000 machine at a 640x480 resolution. When I try to log in from my Windows 98 machine I keep getting the message "Connection Closed". If I try to log in from a Macintosh I get the message "T_DISCONNECT received on connection 2b58634". If you need to know anything else about the setup, just ask and I'll get straight back. Thanks in advance, Antonio --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From stleroux@airfrance.fr Mon Sep 17 13:27:08 2001 From: stleroux@airfrance.fr (stleroux@airfrance.fr) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 12:27:08 +0000 Subject: Needing informations Message-ID: Hello, First question: I am using your Fabulous product under a LAN using Windows NT4. I wished to change the password on the servers I support, and so used the "Service helper" in which I made the change being logged as Administrator. It appeared that after unlogging the remote servers, the password hadn't been changed. I checked the registry and discovered that only the HKEY_CURENT_USER had the new password, but not HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, so I copied it to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE. Which worked all right, but I doubt that this is the easiest way to do and wonder why it didn't work on the first try. Could you please help me understanding what the problem was, as I'll have to change this password regularly and would rather save some time doing it. Second question: I noticed that connecting a remote client running an "Extra" session causes CPU use to go up to 100% , according to the informations found in the FAQs ,I tried modifying the parameters in "Update Handling" with no success. Is there any known reasons to that, or any incompatibility between VNC and EXTRA ? Thanks for your advises. ---------------- Les donnees et renseignements contenus dans ce message sont personnels, confidentiels et secrets. Ce message est adresse a l'individu ou l'entite dont les coordonnees figurent ci-dessus. Si vous n'etes pas le bon destinataire, nous vous demandons de ne pas lire, copier, utiliser ou divulguer cette communication. Nous vous prions de notifier cette erreur a l'expediteur et d'effacer immediatement cette communication de votre systeme. The information contained in this message is privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. This message is intended for the individual or entity adressed herein. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose this communication to others ;also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gary.stainburn@ringways.co.uk Mon Sep 17 13:34:53 2001 From: gary.stainburn@ringways.co.uk (Gary Stainburn) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 12:34:53 +0000 Subject: Off Topic In-Reply-To: <015801c13d55$6f539e30$1d01a8c0@BugsBunny> References: <015801c13d55$6f539e30$1d01a8c0@BugsBunny> Message-ID: Hi James, try redhat-list@redhat.com go to https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list to subscribe Gary On Friday 14 September 2001 8:42 pm, you wrote: > I know this forum has a lot of Linux experience. Can anyone suggest a good > Linux forum? RedHat specific if possible? Hopefully somthing that has good > membership and timely responses such as this one. > > Thanks in Advance. > James > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Gary Stainburn This email does not contain private or confidential material as it may be snooped on by interested government parties for unknown and undisclosed purposes - Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, 2000 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Mon Sep 17 15:23:10 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:23:10 +0000 Subject: AW: password protected screensaver causes "connection closed by peer" In-Reply-To: <20010914234429.2993ac8c.kevinc@doink.com> Message-ID: <000301c13f7b$8cd9dd20$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> Try setting the default password, also make sure the default resolution is the same as the user. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Kevin Cosgrove Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 2:44 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: AW: password protected screensaver causes "connection closed by peer" F8 pops up the menu for me. Send ctrl+alt+del does't do anything visibly though. I ended up trying TightVNC on the Win2K machine. It's snappier than vanilla VNC, but it has the same trouble, in that vncviewer on my Solaris machine is kicked off anytime the Win2K screen locks. Does screen password locking on a Win2K machine, as the server, with the viewer running on Solaris work for anyone? If no one has got this to work, I'll give up and turn on/off password locking the screen as need be. Thanks.... On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:57:10 -0400 "Steve Palocz" wrote: > try hitting F8 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Mon Sep 17 15:23:18 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:23:18 +0000 Subject: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message In-Reply-To: <000d01c13f5d$5a0267a0$0900a8c0@COMPUTER> Message-ID: <000401c13f7b$8d463380$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> try setting your Colours to at least 256, 16 bit is the best. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Antonio Gould Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 5:45 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message Hi Steve, Thanks for the reply. In answer to your questions: I had vnc working this way by using application mode (although this doesn't seem to work now). Other than that, no. The colours are set to 16 colours. This is becuase the server is only using the on-board graphics (as it never should have a monitor connected anyway) Re: Password - The connection closed message only occurs after I have typed in the correct password (If I type the wrong one it I get VNC authentication failed). Hope you can help! Regards, Antonio -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Steve Palocz Sent: 14 September 2001 17:46 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message First question, have you got vnc working anywhere? Next question, what is the depth set at, I understand 640x480 but 16 colours 16 bit true...? next have you set the default password. start -> programs -> vnc -> administrative tools -> show default settings. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Antonio Gould Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 11:20 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message Hi all, I know this is a common question but I've looked through all of the archives without finding the answer to my problem. I have VNC installed on a Windows 2000 machine at a 640x480 resolution. When I try to log in from my Windows 98 machine I keep getting the message "Connection Closed". If I try to log in from a Macintosh I get the message "T_DISCONNECT received on connection 2b58634". If you need to know anything else about the setup, just ask and I'll get straight back. Thanks in advance, Antonio --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Mon Sep 17 15:23:26 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:23:26 +0000 Subject: Needing informations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000501c13f7b$8e4b2060$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> Yes, Vnc is multi user (under terminal server, and stand alone). allowing each user to have his own password when he/she is logged in. So to change the system (at login or lock screen) you need to enter the default password found in start -> programs -> vnc -> administrative tools -> show default settings. This will show the default settings in hkey local machine. If you double click the icon in the task tray, you will get the current user settings (hkey current user). note in the title bar. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of stleroux@airfrance.fr Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 5:40 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Needing informations Hello, First question: I am using your Fabulous product under a LAN using Windows NT4. I wished to change the password on the servers I support, and so used the "Service helper" in which I made the change being logged as Administrator. It appeared that after unlogging the remote servers, the password hadn't been changed. I checked the registry and discovered that only the HKEY_CURENT_USER had the new password, but not HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, so I copied it to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE. Which worked all right, but I doubt that this is the easiest way to do and wonder why it didn't work on the first try. Could you please help me understanding what the problem was, as I'll have to change this password regularly and would rather save some time doing it. Second question: I noticed that connecting a remote client running an "Extra" session causes CPU use to go up to 100% , according to the informations found in the FAQs ,I tried modifying the parameters in "Update Handling" with no success. Is there any known reasons to that, or any incompatibility between VNC and EXTRA ? Thanks for your advises. ---------------- Les donnees et renseignements contenus dans ce message sont personnels, confidentiels et secrets. Ce message est adresse a l'individu ou l'entite dont les coordonnees figurent ci-dessus. Si vous n'etes pas le bon destinataire, nous vous demandons de ne pas lire, copier, utiliser ou divulguer cette communication. Nous vous prions de notifier cette erreur a l'expediteur et d'effacer immediatement cette communication de votre systeme. The information contained in this message is privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. This message is intended for the individual or entity adressed herein. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose this communication to others ;also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From lovitz@flex.net Mon Sep 17 15:59:51 2001 From: lovitz@flex.net (Glenn Lovitz) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:59:51 +0000 Subject: Massive unanswerable problem with CDE & VNC. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000801c13acf$102de8d0$240113ac@lovitzgnt> Mike, I went through all the same hassle awhile back. The problem is the way CDE works. You log in through an Xserver and there is only one surefire way to get the dtlogin sequence correct -- place an entry into /etc/dt/config/Xservers. Note: the path shown /usr/local/vnc is my vnc install path and is shared by all workstations through NFS. The end of my files looks like (each display entry is on one long line) those between the dashed lines (note that :0 is the primary display) -- /etc/dt/config/Xservers: ------------------------------------------- :0 Local local_uid@none root /usr/openwin/bin/Xsun :0 :5 Local local_uid@none root /bin/env PATH=/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/openwin/bin:/usr/dt/bin: /usr/local/vnc Xvnc :5 -httpd /usr/local/vnc/classes -geometry 1152x900 -cc 3 -depth 8 -rfbwait 120000 -rfbauth /usr/local/vnc/.vnc/passwd -rfbport 5905 -httpport 5805 -fp tcp/localhost:7100 -alwaysshared ------------------------------------------- To set up the default session: 1) create a ".vnc" directory under /usr/local/vnc -- this will all be owned by root (group sys) 2) set your HOME environment variable to /usr/local/vnc 3) from /usr/local/vnc ==> ./vncpasswd 4) create /usr/local/vnc/.vnc/xstartup, with permissions 755, containing single line: #!/bin/sh Also make sure you start fs with inetd (/etc/inetd.conf -- I use only the tpc6 line as it is enabled otherwise use tcp line -- DO NOT USE BOTH) with : #fs stream tcp wait nobody /usr/openwin/lib/fs.auto fs fs stream tcp6 wait nobody /usr/openwin/lib/fs.auto fs Re-boot and you should get a correct dtlogin screen in your viewer or browser. Doing a "ps -ef" you should see an Xserver (dtgreet, etc) running for (in my case) display 5! Good luck, Glenn -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Mike Valley Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 6:54 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Massive unanswerable problem with CDE & VNC. I've been having a problem with VNC with Solaris 8 that has been driving me CRAZY. Here is the scoop: I'm trying to run CDE over VNC. I cannot get it to work. The consistent error I always receive in startlog is: /usr/dt/bin/dthello: display unix:1.0 doesn't know font -dt-interface system-med ium-r-normal-l*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* /usr/dt/bin/dthello: display unix:1.0 doesn't know font fixed the startup continues, but no window manager load and if I try to start an application like dtpad, I get: --------- Warning: Cannot convert string "Escape,_Key_Cancel" to type VirtualBinding Warning: Cannot convert string "Home,_Key_Begin" to type VirtualBinding Warning: Cannot convert string "F1,_Key_Help" to type VirtualBinding Warning: Cannot convert string "ShiftF10,_Key_Menu" to type VirtualBinding Warning: Cannot convert string "F10,Shift_Key_Menu" to type VirtualBinding Warning: Cannot convert string "KP_Enter,_Key_Execute" to type VirtualBindi ng Warning: Cannot convert string "AltReturn,Alt_Key_KP_Enter" to type Virtual Binding Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion Warning: Cannot convert string "-dt-interface system-medium-r-normal-s*-*-*-*-*- *-*-*-*" to type FontSet Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset Warning: Name: FONTLIST_DEFAULT_TAG_STRING Class: XmRendition Conversion failed. Cannot load font. Warning: Name: FONTLIST_DEFAULT_TAG_STRING Class: XmRendition Conversion failed. Cannot load font. Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion Warning: Cannot convert string "-dt-interface user-medium-r-normal-s*-*-*-*-*-*- *-*-*" to type FontSet Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset Warning: Name: FONTLIST_DEFAULT_TAG_STRING Class: XmRendition Conversion failed. Cannot load font. ------------- I'm running Xsession & in ~/.vnc/xstartup: according to xset, the font path is: Font Path: /usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/F3bitmaps/,/usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr /o penwin/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/openwin/l ib/X 11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,/usr/openwin/lib/X11/font s/Xt +/ I have tried running XFS and setting the font path to :tcp/localhost:7100. Still no luck. I'm out of ideas. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance, Mike --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Bruno.ALAPETITE@sema.fr Mon Sep 17 15:59:59 2001 From: Bruno.ALAPETITE@sema.fr (Bruno.ALAPETITE@sema.fr) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:59:59 +0000 Subject: VNC Server for VMS Message-ID: Does exist a VNC server for VMS(6.2) or is somebody working on it , I did not find an answer in the archives. Could somebody give me some informations about the job to do such a port (delay, difficulties, traps ...) ? If somebody began the job in the past, is it posible to get it's sources ? Thanks by advance ----====0====---- Bruno Alapetite --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jej@6pine.com Mon Sep 17 16:13:08 2001 From: jej@6pine.com (J. Eric Josephson) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:13:08 +0000 Subject: WinVNC and W2K Server "Connectino Closed" message. In-Reply-To: <005001c13a0e$868375c0$1062a981@eng.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: I've tried both as a service and as an application with the same results. I have also looked for any output on the server console and have not seen any.... Thanks for looking at this. -- J. Eric Josephson 978-356-3506 978-265-6295 Cellular mailto:jej@6pine.com AIM: "jejosephso" -----Original Message----- From: James ''Wez'' Weatherall [mailto:jnw22@cam.ac.uk] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 11:37 AM To: J. Eric Josephson; darren.armstrong@telus.com; walden@techsoftinc.com; sam@linuxtec.com; martynas@inet.lt Cc: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: WinVNC and W2K Server "Connectino Closed" message. Are you running WinVNC as a service, or as an application. Are any messages displayed on the server machine's screen when you attempt to connect to it & are disconnected? Cheers, --- James "Wez" Weatherall "The path to enlightenment is /usr/bin/enlightenment" Laboratory for Communications Engineering, Cambridge - Tel : 766513 AT&T Labs Cambridge, UK - Tel : 343000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Eric Josephson" To: ; ; ; ; Cc: Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 5:27 PM Subject: WinVNC and W2K Server "Connectino Closed" message. > I'm sorry for the intrusion. I have been using WinVNC on a number of > systems for some time now, with great luck. I have tried to install it and > get it running on W2K server, SP2. I keep getting the "Connection Closed" > message after I properly authenticate. My symptoms are exactly the same as > the snip below. I have made all attempts to connect to a system that is > currently logged in and the screen saver is not active. > > I was reading a thread in the mailing list archives for VNC about a Win2k > Server and WinVNC "Connection Closed" problem. I could not find a > resolution in the archive. Do you recall if there ever was a fix for the > problem? Thanks in advance for your time. > > ---- snip > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Darren Armstrong [mailto:darren.armstrong@telus.com] > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 6:57 PM > To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' > Subject: WinVNC on Windows 2000 Server > > I know that this issue has been brought up in previous discussions. > However, I was not able to find a suitable solution. > > I am able to install and connect to WinVNC on win2k Professional without any > problems. I CANNOT install (as a service) or connect to WinVNC on win2k > Server. I get a 'connection closed' message as soon as submit my password. > This happens even if I set WinVNC to accepting null passwords. > > -- > > J. Eric Josephson > 978-356-3506 > 978-265-6295 Cellular > > mailto:jej@6pine.com > AIM: "jejosephso" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From smartybob@pacific.net.sg Mon Sep 17 16:13:19 2001 From: smartybob@pacific.net.sg (Colin) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:13:19 +0000 Subject: Regarding Xvnc on solaris 8 on intel(x86) Message-ID: <001001c13816$fb01ce00$0100a8c0@server> Hi, Currently, on the VNC web site on have VNC for solaris(SPARC) system. I wandering is there any version for solaris 8 intel version. I need them urgently. Could anyone who have compiled the package send an email w/ them attach to me. Many thanxs, Colin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From DavidB@mail.interclean.com Mon Sep 17 16:42:02 2001 From: DavidB@mail.interclean.com (David Brodbeck) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:42:02 +0000 Subject: Bandwidth Limitation of VNC Message-ID: My own experience was that on a fast network, it worked best if the client and server had the *same* color depth, I think because of the overhead of converting from one to another. (If this conversion happens in the client, this may be particularly important for viewers that run on relatively slow machines like the iPAQ. I'm actually not sure where it happens.) On a slow connection, the reduction in data sent at a lower bitrate can overwhelm that difference, but the person who started this thread said bandwidth wasn't the issue... -----Original Message----- From: Todd A. Jacobs [mailto:nospam@codegnome.org] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 5:26 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Bandwidth Limitation of VNC Also, you might want to consider the color depth of your display. It certainly takes less time to encode 8 bits than 24 or 32, although some people claim 16 works best (I'm not sure that I completely understand why, though). --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jmuscarello@cmsav.com Mon Sep 17 17:12:42 2001 From: jmuscarello@cmsav.com (John Muscarello) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:12:42 +0000 Subject: Gray Screen problem when connecting Message-ID: <63DB246D5B49D511B57200E08102692310E121@CMSSERVERE> I'm running VNC on two NT servers. The servers are not on the local network. One is New York and the other is in Philadelphia. I connect via a T1 and the internet. When I try to view the Philly machine, the connection is successful but all I see on the New York end is a gray screen and the message "please wait, initital screen loading". This message is displayed for awhile, then the program exits when I move the mouse. On the Philadelpia end, a person sitting at the server can see the mouse pointer moving, so it seems like the connection is successful, I just can't view the remote machine. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From john.clegg@nailsea.net Mon Sep 17 18:22:51 2001 From: john.clegg@nailsea.net (John Clegg) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:22:51 +0000 Subject: Ctrl + Esc in NT Message-ID: <076E84E04C64D311B9F40080C8F3095920FDFC@MAPLE> I have no problem with that - I found it fairly self evident. However that doesn't make it any less a pain to operate! > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Stefane Bridy > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:18 AM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: Ctrl + Esc in NT > > > Well ... it doesn't work for me, but the way to proceed is > clearly indicated in the DOCUMENTATION on the VNC site, for each > viewer type. It's just that the system menu or pop-up menu, > depending on your platform doesn't state it clearly. For NT > viewer, for example, the system menu item "Send control down" is > confusing people. It means holding control down, so you just > have to press Esc then, (dont forget to release control with > "Send control up" if you want to avoid problems for yourself, > (or local user?) later on). > > It's explained in the documentation, but people (I amongst them) > don't take time to read them through ... so just go in > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc and click on documentation > on the left menu. > > > --- Mike Lazlo escribis: > I have seen > messages about Ctrl + Esc not working in WinVnc in > > the NT > > OS. I have seen messages about people saying to add the Shift > > key to > > this sequence. This will not work because this is the shortcut > > for > > 'Windows Task Manager'. But I have just stumbled across the > > key sequence > > of 'Alt + S' which seems to work on at least WinNT machines > > that I have > > come across. 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If you have received this e-mail in error, please accept our apologies and we simply request that you delete this document. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andreas@dus-spot.de Mon Sep 17 19:07:52 2001 From: Andreas@dus-spot.de (Andreas Schmidt) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:07:52 +0000 Subject: Regarding Xvnc on solaris 8 on intel(x86) In-Reply-To: <001001c13816$fb01ce00$0100a8c0@server> Message-ID: <3BA648D9.6093.34835A@localhost> Hello, I have a compiled package of 3.3.3r1 (not 2!) on my homepage. You can get it at http://www.dus-spot.de/vnc/xvnc.tar.gz - included is a adapted vncserver-script, so that CDE can be used. Bye, Andreas > Hi, > > Currently, on the VNC web site on have VNC for solaris(SPARC) system. > > I wandering is there any version for solaris 8 intel version. > I need them urgently. Could anyone who have compiled the package send an email > w/ them attach to me. > > Many thanxs, > Colin > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Andreas Schmidt Web: http://www.dus-spot.de E-MAIL: Andreas@dus-spot.de S-Mail: Am Wehrgraben 8 D - 58339 Breckerfeld --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jnw22@cam.ac.uk Mon Sep 17 20:00:01 2001 From: jnw22@cam.ac.uk (James ''Wez'' Weatherall) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:00:01 +0000 Subject: vnc-list-digest V1 #1273 References: Message-ID: <010201c13fa1$f6b0a1e0$1062a981@eng.cam.ac.uk> > I know that TridiaVNC has a registry setting to allow > the "?" ipchain in the AuthHosts registry key to allow > access to a machine if there is no response from the > user(in case the user is not there and there is a need > to control the machine) > > VNC from AT&T does not have this setting. Does anyone > know if its planned for a future release? This is not true. AT&T VNC is, in fact, where the AuthHosts and QuerySetting features originate from. TridiaVNC supports them by virtue of being substantially derived from WinVNC. I would be very interested to know where you have found documentation to the contrary. Cheers, --- James "Wez" Weatherall AT&T Labs Cambridge --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From kevinc@dOink.COM Mon Sep 17 20:20:50 2001 From: kevinc@dOink.COM (Kevin Cosgrove) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:20:50 +0000 Subject: AW: password protected screensaver causes "connection closed by peer" In-Reply-To: <000301c13f7b$8cd9dd20$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> Message-ID: <20010917174329.676BE2FEAC@joseph.doink.com> I have a default password for VNC. It doesn't matter whether it matches my Win2K network password or not. In neither case will a vncviewer session survive Win2K asking for a password after locking the Win2K screen. Default resolution? User resolution? I'm not finding this. If you're referring to the question in the FAQ about a screen saver with a different default resolution causing my problem, then I expect that this isn't the problem because the screen saver itself will run just fine, unless I password protect it. Thanks... On 17 September 2001 at 9:20, "Steve Palocz" wrote: Try setting the default password, also make sure the default resolution is the same as the user. Steve --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From bala_sambandam@yahoo.com Mon Sep 17 20:43:59 2001 From: bala_sambandam@yahoo.com (Bala Sambandam) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:43:59 +0000 Subject: VNC authentication/authorization Message-ID: <20010917183718.99071.qmail@web9603.mail.yahoo.com> Hello, I'm in the process of making changes to the 3.3.9r2 source for winvnc and the 3.3.3r2 source for the Java vncviewer to handle NT domain authentication and authorization. I had to create a new rfb protocol with some minor changes. I've called it 003.004 for now. It's backward compatible with older viewer's and should port easy enough to any authentication scheme that supports usernames, passwords and groups. The way it works on NT is with 3 optional registry settings. When these settings are missing then it default back to the old scheme. o AuthType One of "VNC" for the old single password authentication style or "OS" for OS level authentication and authorization. o DefaultUser A username (of the form or \ on NT) to use when older vncviewers connect since these can only supply a password. o AuthRole An OS group (of the form or \ on NT) to use when authorizing client sessions. The user that a client session authenticates with must be in this group. I'm not updating the C/C++ vncviewer, just the Java vncviewer since this is all I need for my requirements. I've made a first pass on the server side changes. I'm in the process of updating the Java vncviewer. I was wondering if once I finished testing my changes whether there was a process for submiting/integrating these back. I lack forward compatibility since I had to change the RFB. thanks, Bala __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From DavidB@mail.interclean.com Mon Sep 17 20:44:07 2001 From: DavidB@mail.interclean.com (David Brodbeck) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:44:07 +0000 Subject: vnc-list-digest V1 #1273 Message-ID: I think the difference is in AT&T VNC, ? will only *reject* the connection if the user doesn't respond. TridiaVNC will let you configure it to either accept or reject. -----Original Message----- From: James ''Wez'' Weatherall [mailto:jnw22@cam.ac.uk] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 1:56 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com; carlosalfaro@yahoo.com Subject: Re: vnc-list-digest V1 #1273 > I know that TridiaVNC has a registry setting to allow > the "?" ipchain in the AuthHosts registry key to allow > access to a machine if there is no response from the > user(in case the user is not there and there is a need > to control the machine) > > VNC from AT&T does not have this setting. Does anyone > know if its planned for a future release? This is not true. AT&T VNC is, in fact, where the AuthHosts and QuerySetting features originate from. TridiaVNC supports them by virtue of being substantially derived from WinVNC. I would be very interested to know where you have found documentation to the contrary. Cheers, --- James "Wez" Weatherall AT&T Labs Cambridge --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From kevinc@dOink.COM Mon Sep 17 20:48:56 2001 From: kevinc@dOink.COM (Kevin Cosgrove) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:48:56 +0000 Subject: SOLUTION - Re: AW: password protected screensaver causes "connection closed by peer" Message-ID: <20010917183419.AD6452FEAC@joseph.doink.com> Got it working with TightVNC from a DOS window using "winvnc -install", as suggest in the FAQ question 28. Sorry to bother the list with my saga. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From dorz@inter.net.il Mon Sep 17 22:39:26 2001 From: dorz@inter.net.il (Dor Juravski) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 21:39:26 +0000 Subject: X server mix-up Message-ID: Hello, I have configured a vnc-server (using inetd services) on my machine and I am using a a viewer on a win2k system. The unix-server is a digital-unix v 4.0F. The problem is that when I open a session I see I have logged on an X session of a DIFFERENT computer on my local network. How can this be ? I am not completely familiar with my machines but it may be some X configuration or something ... Thank you for your help Dor --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From lee@leadtec.com Mon Sep 17 22:50:39 2001 From: lee@leadtec.com (Lee Allen) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 21:50:39 +0000 Subject: X server mix-up References: Message-ID: <006a01c13fd3$998eb380$0300a8c0@LEADTEC> You probably have multiple Unix systems running 'xdm'. You can disable xdm on the 'other system' if you don't need it there... or modify the xdm config files on each system to configure which clients (well, X servers) they are responsible for. -Lee Allen ----- Original Message ----- From: Dor Juravski To: Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:31 PM Subject: X server mix-up > Hello, I have configured a vnc-server (using inetd services) on my machine > and I am using a a viewer on a win2k system. > The unix-server is a digital-unix v 4.0F. > > The problem is that when I open a session I see I have logged on an X > session of a DIFFERENT computer on my local network. How can this be ? I am > not completely familiar with my machines but it may be some X configuration > or something ... > > Thank you for your help > Dor > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From lee@leadtec.com Mon Sep 17 22:53:31 2001 From: lee@leadtec.com (Lee Allen) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 21:53:31 +0000 Subject: Off Topic References: <015801c13d55$6f539e30$1d01a8c0@BugsBunny> Message-ID: <007501c13fd4$278aa9a0$0300a8c0@LEADTEC> James Pifer wrote: > I know this forum has a lot of Linux experience. Can anyone suggest a good > Linux forum? RedHat specific if possible? Hopefully somthing that has good > membership and timely responses such as this one. I don't know if you received any responses to this. I participate in a couple of Linux newsgroups (not mailing lists). The first is general Linux and has a large volume of postings; the second is RedHat specific and has a much smaller volume. comp.os.linux.misc linux.redhat.misc -Lee Allen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From dorz@inter.net.il Tue Sep 18 00:19:06 2001 From: dorz@inter.net.il (Dor Juravski) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 23:19:06 +0000 Subject: X server mix-up In-Reply-To: <006a01c13fd3$998eb380$0300a8c0@LEADTEC> Message-ID: How do I do that ? I mean - tell machine A to handle it's own xdm and not machine B's xdm If there is a hole in my unix knowledge it is the X servers and their manipulations :( -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Lee Allen Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 1:51 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: X server mix-up You probably have multiple Unix systems running 'xdm'. You can disable xdm on the 'other system' if you don't need it there... or modify the xdm config files on each system to configure which clients (well, X servers) they are responsible for. -Lee Allen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From swalton@sunspot.csun.edu Tue Sep 18 00:27:41 2001 From: swalton@sunspot.csun.edu (Stephen Walton) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 23:27:41 +0000 Subject: exiting window manager doesn't stop vncviewer In-Reply-To: <000f01c13d21$718a7900$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> Message-ID: I just tried -once and it doesn't help on either Linux/KDE or HP-UX/CDE. Hitting Logout/exit/whatever causes some things to shut down but not Xvnc itself. There is something about how these window managers signal the X server that they've exited which isn't handled correctly by Xvnc. This is a longstanding problem to which it would be nice to have a solution. -- Stephen Walton, Professor of Physics and Astronomy, California State University, Northridge stephen.walton@csun.edu On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Steve Palocz wrote: > On the server if using Xvnc add -once > if using vncserver then find the cmd line and add one with -once. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Dumas Patrice > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 9:07 AM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: exiting window manager doesn't stop vncviewer > > Then, when I stop the window manager, be it kde or twm, the session > isn't properly closed, and the vncviewer isn't killed. I still can > kill it in the console from which it started, with ctrl-c. It is > possible that I am missing something, but I have no idea of what it > could be. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From john.clegg@nailsea.net Tue Sep 18 00:40:56 2001 From: john.clegg@nailsea.net (John Clegg) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 23:40:56 +0000 Subject: x0rfbserver In-Reply-To: <001e01c138ea$ddf52da0$0201a8c0@athlon1000> Message-ID: <000301c13fc9$36659d50$84c809c0@ntpc032> I have got VNC on Linux working quite well, but it doesn't quite do what I want to do (plus it crashes KDE if I try and run it instead of twm, which is truly horrible!) I would love to install x0rfbserver on my (Mandrake 8) system, but I don't yet know enough to work out how the hell to do it! Is there some kind person could give me some pointers please? On or off list. John john.clegg@nailsea.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ccah@thegreen.co.uk Tue Sep 18 01:36:11 2001 From: ccah@thegreen.co.uk (Ceri Hankey) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 00:36:11 +0000 Subject: x0rfbserver References: <000301c13fc9$36659d50$84c809c0@ntpc032> Message-ID: <006b01c13fd0$af466c20$6764a8c0@ceri4> I , too, have been trying to get kde to work with vnc and have come up with the following conclusions... 1) kde will NOT permit the SAME user to use more than ONE graphic interface. 2) you can specify kde, SO LONG AS you are not already logged into the system and using KDE! 3) I think that this has to do with the DCOP mechanism (whatever that is) - because it seems to be ther that it crashes. 4) You MUST use => 24 bit colour for the VNC interface (8 or 16 bit just do not work!) 5) If you want to make life easy for yourself, use WindowMaker for the VNC connection and kde for your REAL connection - this works well for me and I can even run most (though I have not done an exhaustive test) KDE applics under WindowMaker. Regards Ceri Hankey PS once you have run wmaker.inst, just replace the line 'exec twm' or 'exec startKDE' with 'exec wmaker' in $HOME/.vnc/xstartup. What I have done is to make a symbolic link in .vnc which points to xstartkde, xstartWM or xstarttwm in the smae directory. These three files are all the same except for the exec line. Good luck! ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Clegg" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 12:36 AM Subject: x0rfbserver > I have got VNC on Linux working quite well, but it doesn't quite do what I > want to do (plus it crashes KDE if I try and run it instead of twm, which is > truly horrible!) > > I would love to install x0rfbserver on my (Mandrake 8) system, but I don't > yet know enough to work out how the hell to do it! Is there some kind person > could give me some pointers please? On or off list. > > John > john.clegg@nailsea.net > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gregory@netdoor.com Tue Sep 18 01:50:31 2001 From: gregory@netdoor.com (Greg Breland) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 00:50:31 +0000 Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET Message-ID: <1000770331.10286.7.camel@gbreland> I read a very bad review of VNC on CNET today. http://www.cnet.com/software/0-3227892-1205-7056561.html?tag=st.sw.3227892-1204-7056561.rev.3227892-1205-7056561 The review was so bad, that I feel it needs to be responded to to correct the blantent errors and misinformation contained in it. I have written a response to the review and would like your help checking that I have all my facts in order and that I have crossed all my Is and doted all my Ts. :) http://www.mozillanews.org/vnc/cnet_response.php3 Please email me with any additional information you think should be added or removed as well as any corrections. Thanks, Greg Breland --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jamesvnclist@tnjinfl.com Tue Sep 18 02:31:19 2001 From: jamesvnclist@tnjinfl.com (James Pifer) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 01:31:19 +0000 Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET References: <1000770331.10286.7.camel@gbreland> Message-ID: <01b501c13fd8$9334ee50$1d01a8c0@BugsBunny> Greg, I'm with you . That review was very bad. It seemed as though the author had blinders or was biased against VNC going into it. One feature of VNC that I find I use a lot is the copying/pasting to the clipboard. The fact that I can copy stuff from the machine I'm remote controlling and and then paste on my local machine is very handy. Maybe newer versions of the competitors products can do that, but I haven't seen it. Also being an open source software opens many other doors. In some ways it can be negative, but in many others it's not. For example, there's a web portal package called Stoneware (www.stone-ware.com) that someone has written a very nice VNC hook for. You can log into your corporate web portal, which you can do over SSL, and then it can proxy a VNC session to your servers and desktops inside the network. Very slick. Good luck with your response. James ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Breland" To: Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 7:45 PM Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET > I read a very bad review of VNC on CNET today. > > http://www.cnet.com/software/0-3227892-1205-7056561.html?tag=st.sw.3227892-1 204-7056561.rev.3227892-1205-7056561 > > The review was so bad, that I feel it needs to be responded to to > correct the blantent errors and misinformation contained in it. I have > written a response to the review and would like your help checking that > I have all my facts in order and that I have crossed all my Is and doted > all my Ts. :) > > > http://www.mozillanews.org/vnc/cnet_response.php3 > > > Please email me with any additional information you think should be > added or removed as well as any corrections. > > Thanks, > > Greg Breland > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Tue Sep 18 02:46:42 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 01:46:42 +0000 Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04DE4@QMAIL> Slight correction: PcAnywhere version 8 can talk to ver. 9 and vice versa - I do it at work all the time (if pca hasn't crashed previously ;). I think it would be useful if you put an emphasis on the "open" nature of VNC - a benefit that allows continuous and rapid improvement to the product, as well as interesting and useful "unofficial" add-ons, like tight encoding, the wall-paper disabling stuff, and even Rudi de Vos' recent adventures with a Win2k VNC display driver. Thanks, Glenn -----Original Message----- From: Greg Breland [mailto:gregory@netdoor.com] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 7:46 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET I read a very bad review of VNC on CNET today. http://www.cnet.com/software/0-3227892-1205-7056561.html?tag=st.sw.3227892-1 204-7056561.rev.3227892-1205-7056561 The review was so bad, that I feel it needs to be responded to to correct the blantent errors and misinformation contained in it. I have written a response to the review and would like your help checking that I have all my facts in order and that I have crossed all my Is and doted all my Ts. :) http://www.mozillanews.org/vnc/cnet_response.php3 Please email me with any additional information you think should be added or removed as well as any corrections. Thanks, Greg Breland --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ajv@greebo.net Tue Sep 18 04:22:53 2001 From: ajv@greebo.net (Andrew van der Stock) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 03:22:53 +0000 Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET In-Reply-To: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04DE4@QMAIL> Message-ID: <001701c13fe8$223202f0$217da8c0@tinkywinky> There are problems with the review, but we should take the valid criticisms on board. Documentation could be improved, particularly for first time users. Dialog boxes could be better from a purist HCI point of view Security can be made easier (particularly the hidden AuthHost stuff) Localization could be done properly But all of the above proves the value of open source. When someone has an itch to improve things, they can. Andrew -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Mabbutt Sent: Tuesday, 18 September 2001 10:41 To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: Bad Review of VNC at CNET Slight correction: PcAnywhere version 8 can talk to ver. 9 and vice versa - I do it at work all the time (if pca hasn't crashed previously ;). I think it would be useful if you put an emphasis on the "open" nature of VNC - a benefit that allows continuous and rapid improvement to the product, as well as interesting and useful "unofficial" add-ons, like tight encoding, the wall-paper disabling stuff, and even Rudi de Vos' recent adventures with a Win2k VNC display driver. Thanks, Glenn -----Original Message----- From: Greg Breland [mailto:gregory@netdoor.com] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 7:46 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET I read a very bad review of VNC on CNET today. http://www.cnet.com/software/0-3227892-1205-7056561.html?tag=st.sw.32278 92-1 204-7056561.rev.3227892-1205-7056561 The review was so bad, that I feel it needs to be responded to to correct the blantent errors and misinformation contained in it. I have written a response to the review and would like your help checking that I have all my facts in order and that I have crossed all my Is and doted all my Ts. :) http://www.mozillanews.org/vnc/cnet_response.php3 Please email me with any additional information you think should be added or removed as well as any corrections. Thanks, Greg Breland --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From swalton@sunspot.csun.edu Tue Sep 18 05:27:10 2001 From: swalton@sunspot.csun.edu (Stephen Walton) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 04:27:10 +0000 Subject: x0rfbserver In-Reply-To: <006b01c13fd0$af466c20$6764a8c0@ceri4> Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Ceri Hankey wrote: > 1) kde will NOT permit the SAME user to use more than ONE graphic > interface. One nice feature of CDE, at least on HP-UX, is that you can create subdirectories of the .cde directory with names consisting of the machine name, a colon, and the display name (mymachine:1, mymachine:2, etc.) and CDE will then keep a separate saved desktop for each display. Stephen Walton, Professor of Physics and Astronomy, California State University, Northridge stephen.walton@csun.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From marius@cadvision.com Tue Sep 18 06:36:31 2001 From: marius@cadvision.com (Marius Zydyk) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 05:36:31 +0000 Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET Message-ID: <200109180434.WAA05357@spool1.cadvision.com> Yes, this is a pretty bad, one-sided review, seems like the author set out from the beginning with an agenda. In case you're wondering, this is a pretty typical software review, direct links to only one competing package are a clear indication of something happening behind the scenes. Here's a software review template: - will this product receive a positive review? - yes: - do we have incentives of any kind from the manufacturer? - yes: * reprint suggested pr material. the real review (if there is one) will be found between the lines. - no: * be sure to not make it look too good, provide lots of info on competing products. maybe mext time we'll get a free t-shirt. - no: - do we have incentives of any kind from the manufacturer? - yes: * hmm, make it humorous, provide more complaints about competing packages. mention the killer versions coming up rsn. the real review (if any) is between the lines. - no: * make stuff up. provide links to more profitable publishers. fud. I think it is clear where this review falls. It is interesting how 'issues' are pointed out (having to know the ip is the best!), issues which exist in competing products (how else do you connect with PCAnywhere? Voodoo? Magic wand?) That said, lack of (friendly) documentation is a real problem, took me a couple of tries to figure out how to run VNC as a service, but this is addressed with paid versions of VNC, which come complete with support. vnc-list@uk.research.att.com wrote: >I read a very bad review of VNC on CNET today. > >http://www.cnet.com/software/0-3227892-1205-7056561.html?tag=st.sw.3227892-1204-7056561.rev.3227892-1205-7056561 > >The review was so bad, that I feel it needs to be responded to to >correct the blantent errors and misinformation contained in it. I have >written a response to the review and would like your help checking that >I have all my facts in order and that I have crossed all my Is and doted >all my Ts. :) > > >http://www.mozillanews.org/vnc/cnet_response.php3 > > >Please email me with any additional information you think should be >added or removed as well as any corrections. > >Thanks, > >Greg Breland >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list >to majordomo@uk.research.att.com >See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html >--------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Marius Zydyk -- marius.z@staff.cadvision.com CADVision Internet -- Programmer/Web Developer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From maillist@devilsplayground.net Tue Sep 18 08:01:57 2001 From: maillist@devilsplayground.net (Dave Warren) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 07:01:57 +0000 Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET References: <200109180434.WAA05357@spool1.cadvision.com> Message-ID: <0e5101c14006$d5f10b10$f5844018@devilsplayground.net> > I think it is clear where this review falls. It is interesting how 'issues' > are pointed out (having to know the ip is the best!), issues which exist in > competing products (how else do you connect with PCAnywhere? Voodoo? Magic > wand?) Nope, PCAnywhere advertises that it's running. I loaded it up on my cable modem, and immediately saw a couple people in my node running PCAnywhere, one without a password. Handy feature. But then, on my local area network VNC can connect to the computer "systems1" just by typing "systems1", even though it's assigned a dynamic IP. Hmmmmm. Magic. Or just using DNS properly. One of the two, anyway. ======================================================== Dave Warren, devilsplayground.net administrator Email: dave.warren@devilsplayground.net ======================================================== --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From maillist@devilsplayground.net Tue Sep 18 08:05:22 2001 From: maillist@devilsplayground.net (Dave Warren) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 07:05:22 +0000 Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET References: <1000770331.10286.7.camel@gbreland> Message-ID: <0e5801c14007$7361c2e0$f5844018@devilsplayground.net> Poor guy is just sore 'cause he doesn't know what a "service" is, couldn't figure out the mailing list, and couldn't figure out how to install it, and the official support is equal to the price. Why should I pay $99 (Or whatever PCAnywhere is) for tech support I don't need, and a GUI I don't want? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Breland" To: Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 5:45 PM Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET > I read a very bad review of VNC on CNET today. > > http://www.cnet.com/software/0-3227892-1205-7056561.html?tag=st.sw.3227892-1 204-7056561.rev.3227892-1205-7056561 ======================================================== Dave Warren, devilsplayground.net administrator Email: dave.warren@devilsplayground.net ======================================================== --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jowr@sdf.lonestar.org Tue Sep 18 11:13:01 2001 From: jowr@sdf.lonestar.org (Eric Gisse) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:13:01 +0000 Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET In-Reply-To: <0e5801c14007$7361c2e0$f5844018@devilsplayground.net> References: <1000770331.10286.7.camel@gbreland> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010917225537.042c5d68@mail.freeshell.org> Yes, VNC is confusing to the technically inept (oh i dont know it's ip!) ROFL. Its so hard, i can even install it remotely using psexec, tftp32, regedit /s, and net start winvnc Im so sorry i didnt pay for documentation i wont use and performance i cant get over 56k. The only advantages pcanywhere has over winvnc are: Speed (both are slow over 56k, but winvnc a little more so) file transfer (tftp/ftp work well enough) security (tunnel through ssh!) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From yan@cardinalengineering.com Tue Sep 18 11:33:44 2001 From: yan@cardinalengineering.com (Yan Seiner) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:33:44 +0000 Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET References: <1000770331.10286.7.camel@gbreland> Message-ID: <3BA71417.20D01F74@cardinalengineering.com> My take on this: VNC was intened AFAIK for remote admin use. As such, it assumes a certain base knowledge of networking, tcp/ip, and security. Any admin who opens random ports to the internet, and leaves servers running with root priveledges accessible to the public, deserves to be shot. VNC docs basically tell you to run VNC via a vpn or ssh. I can't see PCAnywhere running via ssh.... VNC was intended to run over a high-speed local area network. If the reviewer bothered to read the docs, he would find out that's why it does not have encryption or compression. Both take CPU cycles that are better used elsewhere. I was amazed at the negative attitude of the article. This sounds like a paid hack piece for GoToMyPC... OTOH, there are valid points. VNC has the same problems as many maturing open source products. I'm guessing it started life as a need for some admin. S/He got tired of walking around looking at servers, so s/he wrote a little proggie to help him/her. S/He didn't need docs. It worked so s/he gave it to some other admins. Next thing you know, the proggie has some real features, still is lightweight, and still has no real docs, so we put it on a web site and let people download it. Unpaid people like to code much more than write docs. VNC also follows the *nix model as opposed to the win model. *nix utilities tend to be small, lightweight, and rely on other utilities to provide essential features. The advantage is that the utiltity itself is easy to use and relatively simple to code and maintain. The downside is that the user is left with the task of integrating the various tools to get the functionality he needs. Take security, for example. I don't worry about running a secure VNC since I only run it over a vpn. The vpn took a while to set up on its own; if I had to bootstrap a "secure vnc" from scratch I'd have several months of work to get the bugs out. win tools tend to be all-in-one, self contained kitchen-sink-and-tub appliances. The advantage is that everything is provided in one package, so the casual user can easily have the full functionality. OTOH, when you need more than one package running at a time, the result can be a mess. Each package doing its own security, for example, opens lots of vulnerabilities. I have to have lots of open ports, and programmers with limited security experience are coding the security layer of their apps. Since the source is closed, there is no way to ascertain the quality of the code. --Yan Greg Breland wrote: > > I read a very bad review of VNC on CNET today. > > http://www.cnet.com/software/0-3227892-1205-7056561.html?tag=st.sw.3227892-1204-7056561.rev.3227892-1205-7056561 > > The review was so bad, that I feel it needs to be responded to to > correct the blantent errors and misinformation contained in it. I have > written a response to the review and would like your help checking that > I have all my facts in order and that I have crossed all my Is and doted > all my Ts. :) > > http://www.mozillanews.org/vnc/cnet_response.php3 > > Please email me with any additional information you think should be > added or removed as well as any corrections. > > Thanks, > > Greg Breland > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From stefane_bridy@yahoo.com Tue Sep 18 11:35:25 2001 From: stefane_bridy@yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Stefane=20Bridy?=) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:35:25 +0000 Subject: VNC Problem (refresh) In-Reply-To: <3BA206E6.63FF362E@InvisibleRobot.com> Message-ID: <20010918093308.63716.qmail@web11608.mail.yahoo.com> I read somewhere in the documentation, that any click in the windows requests a refresh. It's easier than using the menu and seems to work under NT. Give it a try, if the application running has some places where you can click without any action being performed. --- Eric Carlson escribis: > I've done that and it is such a pain. I am much more > productive using > "Poll full screen", even though the response is slower. If I > didn't have > to go to such extremes to refresh the screen, I might prefer > manual > refresh, like if I could use the center mouse button to do a > refresh > instead of having to select it from a menu each time. > > > I make frequent use of the "Request Screen Refresh" > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe > vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Construye tu pagina personal en Yahoo! GeoCities. !Es facil, rapido y gratis! http://geocities.yahoo.com.mx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From const@ce.cctpu.edu.ru Tue Sep 18 11:41:46 2001 From: const@ce.cctpu.edu.ru (Const Kaplinsky) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:41:46 +0000 Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET In-Reply-To: <1000770331.10286.7.camel@gbreland> References: <1000770331.10286.7.camel@gbreland> Message-ID: Hello, >>>>> "GB" == Greg Breland writes: GB> I read a very bad review of VNC on CNET today. GB> http://www.cnet.com/software/0-3227892-1205-7056561.html?tag=st.sw.3227892-1204-7056561.rev.3227892-1205-7056561 Well, the thing I don't like in that review most is its author's tone. Another problem is that I do not see author's name in the review page. Regarding other aspects, the article contains many valid points, and we probably should learn from such opinions. -- With Best Wishes, Constantin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From yan@cardinalengineering.com Tue Sep 18 11:49:33 2001 From: yan@cardinalengineering.com (Yan Seiner) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:49:33 +0000 Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET References: <200109180434.WAA05357@spool1.cadvision.com> <0e5101c14006$d5f10b10$f5844018@devilsplayground.net> Message-ID: <3BA717B3.7F959413@cardinalengineering.com> Dave Warren wrote: > > > Nope, PCAnywhere advertises that it's running. I loaded it up on my cable > modem, and immediately saw a couple people in my node running PCAnywhere, > one without a password. Handy feature. Handy for who? A hacker? ;-) That's the last thing I want my system to do. I don't want it to advertise its existence. I want it to disappear. My logs are full of rejected packets from mis-configured win boxes advertising their existence on the net. > > But then, on my local area network VNC can connect to the computer > "systems1" just by typing "systems1", even though it's assigned a dynamic > IP. Hmmmmm. Magic. Or just using DNS properly. One of the two, anyway. > See my earlier post about *nix v. win software models. Exactly my point; PCAnywhere is easier to use but a security risk; VNC is more difficult to set up if you include the "properly configured DNS" setup.... --Yan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From antonio.gould@cableinet.co.uk Tue Sep 18 11:51:31 2001 From: antonio.gould@cableinet.co.uk (Antonio Gould) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:51:31 +0000 Subject: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message In-Reply-To: <000401c13f7b$8d463380$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> Message-ID: <001101c14027$017c2560$0900a8c0@COMPUTER> Hi Steve, Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, I am using the on-board graphics card of the computer. This cannot be set to higher than 16 colours. Does this mean I can't use VNC? Or is there something I can do about this? Thanks, Antonio Gould -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Steve Palocz Sent: 17 September 2001 14:21 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message try setting your Colours to at least 256, 16 bit is the best. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Antonio Gould Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 5:45 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message Hi Steve, Thanks for the reply. In answer to your questions: I had vnc working this way by using application mode (although this doesn't seem to work now). Other than that, no. The colours are set to 16 colours. This is becuase the server is only using the on-board graphics (as it never should have a monitor connected anyway) Re: Password - The connection closed message only occurs after I have typed in the correct password (If I type the wrong one it I get VNC authentication failed). Hope you can help! Regards, Antonio -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Steve Palocz Sent: 14 September 2001 17:46 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message First question, have you got vnc working anywhere? Next question, what is the depth set at, I understand 640x480 but 16 colours 16 bit true...? next have you set the default password. start -> programs -> vnc -> administrative tools -> show default settings. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Antonio Gould Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 11:20 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message Hi all, I know this is a common question but I've looked through all of the archives without finding the answer to my problem. I have VNC installed on a Windows 2000 machine at a 640x480 resolution. When I try to log in from my Windows 98 machine I keep getting the message "Connection Closed". If I try to log in from a Macintosh I get the message "T_DISCONNECT received on connection 2b58634". If you need to know anything else about the setup, just ask and I'll get straight back. 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VNC just refuses to authenticate clients for one of the machines. The registry entries are identical in both servers, they were exported from the first server and imported into the second. The IP entries are all there. The graphics resolution is identical on both NT servers. Even when the proper parameters are in place, VNC does not generate a log. Someone suggested that I use the default ports, when the documentation implies that it is possible to use other ports. We cannot use default ports for VNC, we do not intend to set up a VPN for this one application. At the same time, there are two places for registry entries, as if at some point (due to lack of co-ordination between programmers?) someone decided to place parameters in a different location, and the original location was never cleaned up. In my opinion this product is half-finished, does not have detailed documentation, and does not come with dedicated support. It may work well for the various UNIX platforms, but the NT version does not work properly. After attempting to make it work for three days, we finally gave up on it and are recommending a commercial package to our client. Of course you get what you pay for. Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systhmes Technology Services | Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Rigion des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: boivinp@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca -----Original Message----- From: Glenn Mabbutt [SMTP:gmabbutt@quartetservice.com] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 9:41 PM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: Bad Review of VNC at CNET Slight correction: PcAnywhere version 8 can talk to ver. 9 and vice versa - I do it at work all the time (if pca hasn't crashed previously ;). I think it would be useful if you put an emphasis on the "open" nature of VNC - a benefit that allows continuous and rapid improvement to the product, as well as interesting and useful "unofficial" add-ons, like tight encoding, the wall-paper disabling stuff, and even Rudi de Vos' recent adventures with a Win2k VNC display driver. Thanks, Glenn -----Original Message----- From: Greg Breland [mailto:gregory@netdoor.com] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 7:46 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET I read a very bad review of VNC on CNET today. http://www.cnet.com/software/0-3227892-1205-7056561.html?tag=st.sw.3227892-1 204-7056561.rev.3227892-1205-7056561 The review was so bad, that I feel it needs to be responded to to correct the blantent errors and misinformation contained in it. I have written a response to the review and would like your help checking that I have all my facts in order and that I have crossed all my Is and doted all my Ts. :) http://www.mozillanews.org/vnc/cnet_response.php3 Please email me with any additional information you think should be added or removed as well as any corrections. Thanks, Greg Breland --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Tue Sep 18 13:36:43 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 12:36:43 +0000 Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET References: Message-ID: <000d01c14037$20dfa070$0201a8c0@athlon1000> Wow, I can't believe that you could not get it to run on that one machine. It seems in my opinion that you gave up way to easy, the NT version works extremely well. In all likely hood you had a corrupt NT install or some really really weird hardware. VNC for NT has worked on every server I have ever tried it on. It is a great piece of software. If you need commercial support then you should check our Tridia VNC at http://www.tridiavnc.com/ Good Luck, Tony Caduto Programmer/Analyst http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Boivin, Patrice J" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 5:37 AM Subject: RE: Bad Review of VNC at CNET > If VNC works so well, why can use it against one NT server, but not the > other? VNC just refuses to authenticate clients for one of the machines. > > The registry entries are identical in both servers, they were exported from > the first server and imported into the second. > > The IP entries are all there. > > The graphics resolution is identical on both NT servers. > > Even when the proper parameters are in place, VNC does not generate a log. > > Someone suggested that I use the default ports, when the documentation > implies that it is possible to use other ports. We cannot use default ports > for VNC, we do not intend to set up a VPN for this one application. > > At the same time, there are two places for registry entries, as if at some > point (due to lack of co-ordination between programmers?) someone decided to > place parameters in a different location, and the original location was > never cleaned up. > > In my opinion this product is half-finished, does not have detailed > documentation, and does not come with dedicated support. > > It may work well for the various UNIX platforms, but the NT version does not > work properly. > > After attempting to make it work for three days, we finally gave up on it > and are recommending a commercial package to our client. > > Of course you get what you pay for. > > Regards, > Patrice Boivin > Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) > > Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systhmes > Technology Services | Services technologiques > Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique > Maritimes Region, DFO | Rigion des Maritimes, MPO > > E-Mail: boivinp@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Glenn Mabbutt [SMTP:gmabbutt@quartetservice.com] > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 9:41 PM > To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' > Subject: RE: Bad Review of VNC at CNET > > Slight correction: PcAnywhere version 8 can talk to ver. 9 and vice > versa - > I do it at work all the time (if pca hasn't crashed previously ;). > > I think it would be useful if you put an emphasis on the "open" > nature of > VNC - a benefit that allows continuous and rapid improvement to the > product, > as well as interesting and useful "unofficial" add-ons, like tight > encoding, > the wall-paper disabling stuff, and even Rudi de Vos' recent > adventures with > a Win2k VNC display driver. > > Thanks, > > Glenn > > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Breland [mailto:gregory@netdoor.com] > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 7:46 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET > > > I read a very bad review of VNC on CNET today. > > > http://www.cnet.com/software/0-3227892-1205-7056561.html?tag=st.sw.3227892-1 > 204-7056561.rev.3227892-1205-7056561 > > The review was so bad, that I feel it needs to be responded to to > correct the blantent errors and misinformation contained in it. I > have > written a response to the review and would like your help checking > that > I have all my facts in order and that I have crossed all my Is and > doted > all my Ts. :) > > > http://www.mozillanews.org/vnc/cnet_response.php3 > > > Please email me with any additional information you think should be > added or removed as well as any corrections. > > Thanks, > > Greg Breland > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From BoivinP@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca Tue Sep 18 14:03:42 2001 From: BoivinP@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca (Boivin, Patrice J) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 13:03:42 +0000 Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET Message-ID: VNC doesn't work against a Dell PowerEdge 6400 quad-700MHz CPU machine, 2G of RAM, with NT Server 4 SP 6a with security hotfixes applied, including the fixes highlighted by PatchWork. VNC works against an old Pentium II clone, with less memory, no brand name, NT4 SP5. Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systhmes Technology Services | Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Rigion des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: boivinp@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca -----Original Message----- From: Tony Caduto [SMTP:tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 8:43 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Bad Review of VNC at CNET Wow, I can't believe that you could not get it to run on that one machine. It seems in my opinion that you gave up way to easy, the NT version works extremely well. In all likely hood you had a corrupt NT install or some really really weird hardware. VNC for NT has worked on every server I have ever tried it on. It is a great piece of software. If you need commercial support then you should check our Tridia VNC at http://www.tridiavnc.com/ Good Luck, Tony Caduto Programmer/Analyst http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Boivin, Patrice J" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 5:37 AM Subject: RE: Bad Review of VNC at CNET > If VNC works so well, why can use it against one NT server, but not the > other? VNC just refuses to authenticate clients for one of the machines. > > The registry entries are identical in both servers, they were exported from > the first server and imported into the second. > > The IP entries are all there. > > The graphics resolution is identical on both NT servers. > > Even when the proper parameters are in place, VNC does not generate a log. > > Someone suggested that I use the default ports, when the documentation > implies that it is possible to use other ports. We cannot use default ports > for VNC, we do not intend to set up a VPN for this one application. > > At the same time, there are two places for registry entries, as if at some > point (due to lack of co-ordination between programmers?) someone decided to > place parameters in a different location, and the original location was > never cleaned up. > > In my opinion this product is half-finished, does not have detailed > documentation, and does not come with dedicated support. > > It may work well for the various UNIX platforms, but the NT version does not > work properly. > > After attempting to make it work for three days, we finally gave up on it > and are recommending a commercial package to our client. > > Of course you get what you pay for. > > Regards, > Patrice Boivin > Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) > > Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systhmes > Technology Services | Services technologiques > Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique > Maritimes Region, DFO | Rigion des Maritimes, MPO > > E-Mail: boivinp@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Glenn Mabbutt [SMTP:gmabbutt@quartetservice.com] > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 9:41 PM > To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' > Subject: RE: Bad Review of VNC at CNET > > Slight correction: PcAnywhere version 8 can talk to ver. 9 and vice > versa - > I do it at work all the time (if pca hasn't crashed previously ;). > > I think it would be useful if you put an emphasis on the "open" > nature of > VNC - a benefit that allows continuous and rapid improvement to the > product, > as well as interesting and useful "unofficial" add-ons, like tight > encoding, > the wall-paper disabling stuff, and even Rudi de Vos' recent > adventures with > a Win2k VNC display driver. > > Thanks, > > Glenn > > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Breland [mailto:gregory@netdoor.com] > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 7:46 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET > > > I read a very bad review of VNC on CNET today. > > > http://www.cnet.com/software/0-3227892-1205-7056561.html?tag=st.sw.3227892-1 > 204-7056561.rev.3227892-1205-7056561 > > The review was so bad, that I feel it needs to be responded to to > correct the blantent errors and misinformation contained in it. I > have > written a response to the review and would like your help checking > that > I have all my facts in order and that I have crossed all my Is and > doted > all my Ts. :) > > > http://www.mozillanews.org/vnc/cnet_response.php3 > > > Please email me with any additional information you think should be > added or removed as well as any corrections. > > Thanks, > > Greg Breland > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From macleajb@ednet.ns.ca Tue Sep 18 14:11:29 2001 From: macleajb@ednet.ns.ca (James MacLean) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 13:11:29 +0000 Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Boivin, Patrice J wrote: > VNC doesn't work against a Dell PowerEdge 6400 quad-700MHz CPU machine, 2G > of RAM, with NT Server 4 SP 6a with security hotfixes applied, including the > fixes highlighted by PatchWork. Have not tried all the options you spoke to earlier, but it certainly is running here with about that exact configuration but possibly less the PatchWork fixes. > Regards, > Patrice Boivin > Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) > E-Mail: boivinp@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca Later, JES -- James B. MacLean macleajb@ednet.ns.ca Department of Education http://www.ednet.ns.ca/~macleajb Nova Scotia, Canada B3M 4B2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From nickp@ericwright.co.uk Tue Sep 18 14:29:34 2001 From: nickp@ericwright.co.uk (Nick Palmer) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 13:29:34 +0000 Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET Message-ID: Errrr...I'm running it against two Poweredges on NT4 SP6a, one a duallie PIII667, the other a dullie PIII 933, one's got 512MB, the other's got a gig, both have had security hotfixes applied, works fine. Also on a "we aren't going to put our name on it just to be on the safe side" dual PII 350. Also (sorry) on single CPU W2K Poweredge 1550 (forgot that one!). I'd expect registry entries in two places, actually, at least, including HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software and HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\CurrentControlSet\Services, if you've got WinVNC installed as a service - where are your rogue entries? Also, do you have perms set on the logfile location, and if so, do they allow the service account write permission to that location? If you don't want to set up a VPN, don't. Use SSH instead - http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/sshwin.html. Just a thought. I have to say, I have no complaints AT ALL. Nick Palmer IT Manager > -----Original Message----- > From: Boivin, Patrice J [mailto:BoivinP@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca] > Sent: 18 September 2001 13:01 > To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' > Subject: RE: Bad Review of VNC at CNET > > > VNC doesn't work against a Dell PowerEdge 6400 quad-700MHz > CPU machine, 2G > of RAM, with NT Server 4 SP 6a with security hotfixes > applied, including the > fixes highlighted by PatchWork. > > VNC works against an old Pentium II clone, with less memory, > no brand name, > NT4 SP5. > > Regards, > Patrice Boivin > Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) > > Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systhmes > Technology Services | Services technologiques > Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique > Maritimes Region, DFO | Rigion des Maritimes, MPO > > E-Mail: boivinp@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Caduto [SMTP:tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 8:43 AM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: Bad Review of VNC at CNET > > Wow, I can't believe that you could not get it to run > on that one > machine. > It seems in my opinion that you gave up way to easy, > the NT version > works > extremely well. > In all likely hood you had a corrupt NT install or some really > really weird > hardware. > VNC for NT has worked on every server I have ever tried it on. > It is a great piece of software. > If you need commercial support then you should check > our Tridia VNC > at > http://www.tridiavnc.com/ > > Good Luck, > > Tony Caduto > Programmer/Analyst > http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Boivin, Patrice J" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 5:37 AM > Subject: RE: Bad Review of VNC at CNET > > > > If VNC works so well, why can use it against one NT > server, but > not the > > other? VNC just refuses to authenticate clients for > one of the > machines. > > > > The registry entries are identical in both servers, they were > exported > from > > the first server and imported into the second. > > > > The IP entries are all there. > > > > The graphics resolution is identical on both NT servers. > > > > Even when the proper parameters are in place, VNC does not > generate a log. > > > > Someone suggested that I use the default ports, when the > documentation > > implies that it is possible to use other ports. We cannot use > default > ports > > for VNC, we do not intend to set up a VPN for this one > application. > > > > At the same time, there are two places for registry > entries, as if > at some > > point (due to lack of co-ordination between > programmers?) someone > decided > to > > place parameters in a different location, and the original > location was > > never cleaned up. > > > > In my opinion this product is half-finished, does not have > detailed > > documentation, and does not come with dedicated support. > > > > It may work well for the various UNIX platforms, but the NT > version does > not > > work properly. > > > > After attempting to make it work for three days, we > finally gave > up on it > > and are recommending a commercial package to our client. > > > > Of course you get what you pay for. > > > > Regards, > > Patrice Boivin > > Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) > > > > Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systhmes > > Technology Services | Services technologiques > > Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique > > Maritimes Region, DFO | Rigion des Maritimes, MPO > > > > E-Mail: boivinp@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Glenn Mabbutt [SMTP:gmabbutt@quartetservice.com] > > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 9:41 PM > > To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' > > Subject: RE: Bad Review of VNC at CNET > > > > Slight correction: PcAnywhere version 8 can talk to ver. 9 and > vice > > versa - > > I do it at work all the time (if pca hasn't crashed > previously ;). > > > > I think it would be useful if you put an emphasis on > the "open" > > nature of > > VNC - a benefit that allows continuous and rapid > improvement to > the > > product, > > as well as interesting and useful "unofficial" > add-ons, like tight > > encoding, > > the wall-paper disabling stuff, and even Rudi de Vos' recent > > adventures with > > a Win2k VNC display driver. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Glenn > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Greg Breland [mailto:gregory@netdoor.com] > > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 7:46 PM > > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET > > > > > > I read a very bad review of VNC on CNET today. > > > > > > > > http://www.cnet.com/software/0-3227892-1205-7056561.html?tag=s > t.sw.3227892-1 > > 204-7056561.rev.3227892-1205-7056561 > > > > The review was so bad, that I feel it needs to be > responded to to > > correct the blantent errors and misinformation > contained in it. I > > have > > written a response to the review and would like your > help checking > > that > > I have all my facts in order and that I have crossed > all my Is and > > doted > > all my Ts. :) > > > > > > http://www.mozillanews.org/vnc/cnet_response.php3 > > > > > > Please email me with any additional information you > think should > be > > added or removed as well as any corrections. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Greg Breland > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the individual to whom it is addressed. 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Even editing a flat configuration file would be easier than having to dive into Microsoft's hellish registry structure. ;) -----Original Message----- From: Andrew van der Stock [mailto:ajv@greebo.net] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 10:18 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Bad Review of VNC at CNET Documentation could be improved, particularly for first time users. Dialog boxes could be better from a purist HCI point of view Security can be made easier (particularly the hidden AuthHost stuff) Localization could be done properly --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Tue Sep 18 15:45:22 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 14:45:22 +0000 Subject: X server mix-up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000101c14045$e3a2c160$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> How are you using vnc. are you using the -broadcast -indirect or -query option? Steve -----Original Message----- From: Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 7:16 PM Subject: RE: X server mix-up Received: from shallot.uk.research.att.com (shallot.uk.research.att.com [158.124.64.109]) by mail2.nbc.attcanada.ca (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA01126 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:20:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by shallot.uk.research.att.com with local (Exim 3.13 #3) id 15j6gT-0005db-00 for vnc-list-outgoing@uk.research.att.com; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 23:16:09 +0100 Received: from odin.inter.net.il ([192.114.186.10]) by shallot.uk.research.att.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #3) id 15j6gQ-0005ai-00 for vnc-list@uk.research.att.com; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 23:16:06 +0100 Received: from buddha ([213.8.140.88]) by odin.inter.net.il (Mirapoint) with SMTP id AYQ40738; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 01:14:40 +0300 (IDT) From: "Dor Juravski" To: Subject: RE: X server mix-up Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 01:16:18 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1255" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <006a01c13fd3$998eb380$0300a8c0@LEADTEC> Sender: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Precedence: bulk X-Loop: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com X-UIDL: 2d1a05481a3cf095f0425cc262786001 How do I do that ? I mean - tell machine A to handle it's own xdm and not machine B's xdm If there is a hole in my unix knowledge it is the X servers and their manipulations :( -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Lee Allen Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 1:51 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: X server mix-up You probably have multiple Unix systems running 'xdm'. You can disable xdm on the 'other system' if you don't need it there... or modify the xdm config files on each system to configure which clients (well, X servers) they are responsible for. -Lee Allen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Tue Sep 18 15:48:06 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 14:48:06 +0000 Subject: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message In-Reply-To: <001101c14027$017c2560$0900a8c0@COMPUTER> Message-ID: <000201c14047$c6fb53e0$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> Is this an old machine, or can you update the drivers? Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Antonio Gould Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 5:48 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message Hi Steve, Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, I am using the on-board graphics card of the computer. This cannot be set to higher than 16 colours. Does this mean I can't use VNC? Or is there something I can do about this? Thanks, Antonio Gould -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Steve Palocz Sent: 17 September 2001 14:21 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message try setting your Colours to at least 256, 16 bit is the best. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Antonio Gould Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 5:45 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message Hi Steve, Thanks for the reply. In answer to your questions: I had vnc working this way by using application mode (although this doesn't seem to work now). Other than that, no. The colours are set to 16 colours. This is becuase the server is only using the on-board graphics (as it never should have a monitor connected anyway) Re: Password - The connection closed message only occurs after I have typed in the correct password (If I type the wrong one it I get VNC authentication failed). Hope you can help! Regards, Antonio -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Steve Palocz Sent: 14 September 2001 17:46 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message First question, have you got vnc working anywhere? Next question, what is the depth set at, I understand 640x480 but 16 colours 16 bit true...? next have you set the default password. start -> programs -> vnc -> administrative tools -> show default settings. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Antonio Gould Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 11:20 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message Hi all, I know this is a common question but I've looked through all of the archives without finding the answer to my problem. I have VNC installed on a Windows 2000 machine at a 640x480 resolution. When I try to log in from my Windows 98 machine I keep getting the message "Connection Closed". If I try to log in from a Macintosh I get the message "T_DISCONNECT received on connection 2b58634". If you need to know anything else about the setup, just ask and I'll get straight back. Thanks in advance, Antonio --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From dorz@inter.net.il Tue Sep 18 16:21:20 2001 From: dorz@inter.net.il (Dor Juravski) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:21:20 +0000 Subject: X server mix-up In-Reply-To: <000101c14045$e3a2c160$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> Message-ID: I am using -broadcast -once What does it mean to you ? Dor -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Steve Palocz Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 3:29 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: X server mix-up How are you using vnc. are you using the -broadcast -indirect or -query option? Steve --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pweir@team.look.ca Tue Sep 18 16:29:52 2001 From: pweir@team.look.ca (Patrick Weir) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:29:52 +0000 Subject: Windows XP Message-ID: I have Windows XP and i am trying to get vnc to work .. any suggestions? it won't connect.. is there going to be a new VNC release for XP? Patrick Weir ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This email server is running an evaluation copy of the MailShield anti- spam software. Please contact your email administrator if you have any questions about this message. MailShield product info: www.mailshield.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From svenn@dstl.gov.uk Tue Sep 18 16:29:53 2001 From: svenn@dstl.gov.uk (Steven Venn) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:29:53 +0000 Subject: VNC on IPAQ Message-ID: Has anybody used VNC on an IPAQ ? The build I'm using doesn't seem to allow you to set the encoding to RAW mode, it just seems to keep defaulting back to Hextile ? It seems VERY slow even though it has a ubiquitous 10MB connection to the server. We are trying to evaluate VNC as a possible remote mapping tool, but the software really seems to struggle with high-density screen information (ie a map that doesnt have a high degree of redundancy). I've seen the data transfer from the server peek at around 48K per second, but thats bugger all ! Also I'm worried about colour depth mismatches, the IPAQ has a fixed colour depth of 12bit ie 4096 colours, this obviously isnt an option on the server screen. Can anone direct me to a better build of the IPAQ client, perhaps this is the problem with update speed ? Steve, grabbing at straws ! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gregory@netdoor.com Tue Sep 18 16:40:09 2001 From: gregory@netdoor.com (Greg Breland) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:40:09 +0000 Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1000823590.12151.7.camel@gbreland> Try telneting to the VNC port on that box and make sure it is accepting connections. If it is the telnet session will be accepted and you will get the phrase "RFB.." If you do not get this then either VNC is not running or some security feature of your box is preventing connection. On Tue, 2001-09-18 at 05:37, Boivin, Patrice J wrote: > If VNC works so well, why can use it against one NT server, but not the > other? VNC just refuses to authenticate clients for one of the machines. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From stanonik@Cogsci.ucsd.edu Tue Sep 18 16:57:19 2001 From: stanonik@Cogsci.ucsd.edu (Ron Stanonik) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:57:19 +0000 Subject: Windows XP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Patrick Weir wrote: > I have Windows XP and i am trying to get vnc to work .. any suggestions? it > won't connect.. is there going to be a new VNC release for XP? I haven't tried VNC, but XP seems to come with firewalling enabled. Disable it or at least allow access to the VNC ports. Ron stanonik@cogsci.ucsd.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From antonio.gould@cableinet.co.uk Tue Sep 18 16:58:35 2001 From: antonio.gould@cableinet.co.uk (Antonio Gould) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:58:35 +0000 Subject: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message In-Reply-To: <000201c14047$c6fb53e0$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> Message-ID: <003101c14050$ce2cfa20$0900a8c0@COMPUTER> Hi Steve, No, it's a new machine, and has the latest drivers installed. Thanks, Antonio -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Steve Palocz Sent: 18 September 2001 14:43 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message Is this an old machine, or can you update the drivers? Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Antonio Gould Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 5:48 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message Hi Steve, Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, I am using the on-board graphics card of the computer. This cannot be set to higher than 16 colours. Does this mean I can't use VNC? Or is there something I can do about this? Thanks, Antonio Gould -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Steve Palocz Sent: 17 September 2001 14:21 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message try setting your Colours to at least 256, 16 bit is the best. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Antonio Gould Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 5:45 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message Hi Steve, Thanks for the reply. In answer to your questions: I had vnc working this way by using application mode (although this doesn't seem to work now). Other than that, no. The colours are set to 16 colours. This is becuase the server is only using the on-board graphics (as it never should have a monitor connected anyway) Re: Password - The connection closed message only occurs after I have typed in the correct password (If I type the wrong one it I get VNC authentication failed). Hope you can help! Regards, Antonio -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Steve Palocz Sent: 14 September 2001 17:46 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message First question, have you got vnc working anywhere? Next question, what is the depth set at, I understand 640x480 but 16 colours 16 bit true...? next have you set the default password. start -> programs -> vnc -> administrative tools -> show default settings. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Antonio Gould Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 11:20 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message Hi all, I know this is a common question but I've looked through all of the archives without finding the answer to my problem. I have VNC installed on a Windows 2000 machine at a 640x480 resolution. When I try to log in from my Windows 98 machine I keep getting the message "Connection Closed". If I try to log in from a Macintosh I get the message "T_DISCONNECT received on connection 2b58634". If you need to know anything else about the setup, just ask and I'll get straight back. Thanks in advance, Antonio --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pweir@team.look.ca Tue Sep 18 17:21:19 2001 From: pweir@team.look.ca (Patrick Weir) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:21:19 +0000 Subject: Windows XP Message-ID: you da man!!! thanks.. man.. i appreciate that.. turned it off then bing. -----Original Message----- From: Ron Stanonik [mailto:stanonik@Cogsci.ucsd.edu] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 10:53 AM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: Re: Windows XP On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Patrick Weir wrote: > I have Windows XP and i am trying to get vnc to work .. any suggestions? it > won't connect.. is there going to be a new VNC release for XP? I haven't tried VNC, but XP seems to come with firewalling enabled. Disable it or at least allow access to the VNC ports. Ron stanonik@cogsci.ucsd.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This email server is running an evaluation copy of the MailShield anti- spam software. Please contact your email administrator if you have any questions about this message. MailShield product info: www.mailshield.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This email server is running an evaluation copy of the MailShield anti- spam software. Please contact your email administrator if you have any questions about this message. MailShield product info: www.mailshield.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tng@cyberus.ca Tue Sep 18 17:33:48 2001 From: tng@cyberus.ca (Michael Milette) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:33:48 +0000 Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010918104430.01d9a9c0@mail.cyberus.ca> Bonjour Patrice, I have had it running with a very similar configuration to yours except that the CPU's were just quad Xeon 450's. I will even raise you the fact that it wasn't only running NT Server but NT 4.0 Terminal Server Edition plus MetaFrame and it worked great. I would connect remotely to MetaFrame and then run VNC to connect to a local machine. I have even had multiple sessions going by multiple users. Of course I have see situations where programs like PatchWorks will tighten security to the point where almost nothing will run on a box. Even without PatchWorks, I seem to remember a security utility which can increase the level of security of your server. Set to the highest level, your system won't even be able to see any network. Perhaps if you could give us some additional insight into what exactly the symptoms are, we might be able to provide you with a few suggestions. Give it a try. You will find that many people here enjoy helping each other out, something you don't necessarily see with commercial software. In my experience with commercial software, except in the case of the simplest problem with the users ability to use the software, tech support will typically act as if you are the very first person in the world to ever experience the problem and then will tell you that they will send a request to have the developers look it. This does not guaranty that it will actually be fixed. I have spoken to many Tech Support managers who made it clear to me that the first bugs to get fixed are the ones they get the most calls for. If you are actually the only person to ever complain about a real bug, they may never even look into it. This is not to say that VNC is any better in that respect. I have been waiting for a bug to be fixed for about 2 years now (depleting resources while connecting on Windows 9x over a slow connection). However, at least there is an active community of end users ready and willing to help you out and the developer has actually looked into "the source code", confirmed the problem and has stated that he will try to fix it some day since it is not a small undertaking to correct the problem. With commercial software, you NEVER get to talk to the developer. For all we know, they never even see your bug report. Just one word of warning: People around here get cheesed off really quick (probably too quick if you ask me) if you ask a question which has already been answered on the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) page. It is very possible that the reviewer of the VNC article at CNET did ask a question and was sent to the FAQ page to find the answer him/herself. I realize that the FAQ page is there for a reason, and a good reason too. However for newcomers who may not be used to looking for information on the Internet, this can leave you with a bad taste in your mouth. First impressions are very important. Someone who feels good about having found and subscribed to vnc-list could easily be quickly discouraged when simply told "RTFM" or just "Read the FAQ before asking a question here!" Hope this helps. By the way, the FAQ page can be found at http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/faq.html. At 08:00 AM 2001-09-18, you wrote: >VNC doesn't work against a Dell PowerEdge 6400 quad-700MHz CPU machine, 2G >of RAM, with NT Server 4 SP 6a with security hotfixes applied, including the >fixes highlighted by PatchWork. > >VNC works against an old Pentium II clone, with less memory, no brand name, >NT4 SP5. > >Regards, >Patrice Boivin >Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) > >Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systhmes >Technology Services | Services technologiques >Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique >Maritimes Region, DFO | Rigion des Maritimes, MPO > >E-Mail: boivinp@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jnw22@cam.ac.uk Tue Sep 18 17:33:50 2001 From: jnw22@cam.ac.uk (James ''Wez'' Weatherall) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:33:50 +0000 Subject: vnc-list-digest V1 #1273 References: Message-ID: <001901c14056$bc4a5e00$1062a981@eng.cam.ac.uk> > I think the difference is in AT&T VNC, ? will only *reject* the connection > if the user doesn't respond. TridiaVNC will let you configure it to either > accept or reject. Aha. Yes, that is a difference. It's difficult to see why the feature is useful. Do people use it for administrative support stuff or something? Cheers, --- James "Wez" Weatherall "The path to enlightenment is /usr/bin/enlightenment" Laboratory for Communications Engineering, Cambridge - Tel : 766513 AT&T Labs Cambridge, UK - Tel : 343000 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From DavidB@mail.interclean.com Tue Sep 18 18:04:50 2001 From: DavidB@mail.interclean.com (David Brodbeck) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:04:50 +0000 Subject: vnc-list-digest V1 #1273 Message-ID: Yes. Some people have company policies that require them to notify users before taking over their machines. Popping up a dialog box takes care of that, but in some cases you want the connection to go through if there's no one there to bother -- if it's intended more as a matter of courtesy than of security. -----Original Message----- From: James ''Wez'' Weatherall [mailto:jnw22@cam.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 11:30 AM To: David Brodbeck; vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: vnc-list-digest V1 #1273 > I think the difference is in AT&T VNC, ? will only *reject* the connection > if the user doesn't respond. TridiaVNC will let you configure it to either > accept or reject. Aha. Yes, that is a difference. It's difficult to see why the feature is useful. Do people use it for administrative support stuff or something? Cheers, --- James "Wez" Weatherall "The path to enlightenment is /usr/bin/enlightenment" Laboratory for Communications Engineering, Cambridge - Tel : 766513 AT&T Labs Cambridge, UK - Tel : 343000 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From alanc@spectralogic.com Tue Sep 18 18:37:25 2001 From: alanc@spectralogic.com (Alan Conboy) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:37:25 +0000 Subject: x0rfbserver Message-ID: it is crashing kde because of how you are starting vncserver. use the command vncserver -cc 3 & it will run fine w/ kde Alan Conboy Product Support Advisory Engineer Spectralogic 303-449-6400 x1552 "FOOT-AND-MOUTH BELIEVED TO BE FIRST VIRUS UNABLE TO SPREAD THROUGH MICROSOFT OUTLOOK - Researchers Shocked to Finally Find Virus That Email App Doesn't Like" -----Original Message----- From: John Clegg [mailto:john.clegg@nailsea.net] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:37 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: x0rfbserver I have got VNC on Linux working quite well, but it doesn't quite do what I want to do (plus it crashes KDE if I try and run it instead of twm, which is truly horrible!) I would love to install x0rfbserver on my (Mandrake 8) system, but I don't yet know enough to work out how the hell to do it! Is there some kind person could give me some pointers please? On or off list. John john.clegg@nailsea.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jnw22@cam.ac.uk Tue Sep 18 18:37:28 2001 From: jnw22@cam.ac.uk (James ''Wez'' Weatherall) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:37:28 +0000 Subject: vnc-list-digest V1 #1273 References: Message-ID: <005b01c1405e$5edd7600$1062a981@eng.cam.ac.uk> > Yes. Some people have company policies that require them to notify users > before taking over their machines. Popping up a dialog box takes care of > that, but in some cases you want the connection to go through if there's no > one there to bother -- if it's intended more as a matter of courtesy than of > security. That makes sense. Personally, I'd rather implement it as a separate "!" option, which would pop up the dialog but default to accept, and warn the user that they need to explicitly reject if they want. Cheers, --- James "Wez" Weatherall "The path to enlightenment is /usr/bin/enlightenment" Laboratory for Communications Engineering, Cambridge - Tel : 766513 AT&T Labs Cambridge, UK - Tel : 343000 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From carlosalfaro@yahoo.com Tue Sep 18 18:53:44 2001 From: carlosalfaro@yahoo.com (Carlos Alfaro) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:53:44 +0000 Subject: vnc-list-digest V1 #1273 In-Reply-To: <005b01c1405e$5edd7600$1062a981@eng.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20010918164356.35703.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> Will AT&T implement that "mode" ( like mentioned here the "1" or some other switch to activate it) because I do want to use it for support but when nobody is there I still need to work on some things on the machines. Anyone knows if this will happen? A little off topic - someone told me that creating a differnt registry key for Administrator(s) would allow to take over the machine without displaying a pop up box asking for auth. I haven't madeit work, so I dont know --- James ''Wez'' Weatherall wrote: > > Yes. Some people have company policies that > require them to notify users > > before taking over their machines. Popping up a > dialog box takes care of > > that, but in some cases you want the connection to > go through if there's > no > > one there to bother -- if it's intended more as a > matter of courtesy than > of > > security. > > > That makes sense. Personally, I'd rather implement > it as a separate "!" > option, which would pop up the dialog but default to > accept, and warn the > user that they need to explicitly reject if they > want. > > Cheers, > > --- > James "Wez" Weatherall > "The path to enlightenment is > /usr/bin/enlightenment" > Laboratory for Communications Engineering, Cambridge > - Tel : 766513 > AT&T Labs Cambridge, UK > - Tel : 343000 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Tue Sep 18 19:06:01 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 18:06:01 +0000 Subject: Documentation improvement suggestion Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04DEA@QMAIL> One topic that keeps recurring on this list and in general reviews of VNC is documentation, in my observation a lot of "how-to" questions. Understandably, the docs may not be a priority to the AT&T folks - they are part of a research lab after all. Although this may have come up before, I suggest AT&T implement an automated user-administrated documentation system, such as FAQ-o-matic (http://faqomatic.sourceforge.net). Such a system can be configured to allow users to add their own questions and answers. Naturally, this can be implemented anywhere, but I think it is most logical for the AT&T people to host it, as it seems users go to the AT&T site first to look for answers (other than the mailing list). Thanks, Glenn --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Tue Sep 18 20:29:05 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:29:05 +0000 Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET References: Message-ID: <002901c1406d$b8357a90$84061fac@tr3789> Another big problem that needs to be addressed is the fact that VNC when run as a service shuts down before everything, so if something hangs after VNC shuts down, you can never restart the server.... unless you physically go the machine. Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Brodbeck" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 7:42 AM Subject: RE: Bad Review of VNC at CNET > I'll second this...would it really be that much extra work to add dialog box > controls for some of those registry keys? Or maybe just a stand-alone > configuration utility? Even editing a flat configuration file would be > easier than having to dive into Microsoft's hellish registry structure. ;) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew van der Stock [mailto:ajv@greebo.net] > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 10:18 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: RE: Bad Review of VNC at CNET > > > Documentation could be improved, particularly for first time users. > Dialog boxes could be better from a purist HCI point of view > Security can be made easier (particularly the hidden AuthHost stuff) > Localization could be done properly > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From john.clegg@nailsea.net Tue Sep 18 20:31:36 2001 From: john.clegg@nailsea.net (John Clegg) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:31:36 +0000 Subject: Help please Message-ID: <076E84E04C64D311B9F40080C8F3095920FE1E@MAPLE> I've just got there myself! 1) From a console run vncserver 2) It will give you a message telling you that you have a server running on local.machine:1 3) From the client connect to local.machine:1, although I have had more success with using the IP address:1 4) You will get a grey screen and a terminal window. This is actually a horrible little window manager called twm! A left click can start to bring enlightenment! 5) Your config may well stop you getting this far. The FAQs on the VNC site have all the answers though. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Dave Grayburn > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:48 AM > To: VNC Mailing List > Subject: Help please > > > will VNC Connect across platforms?=20 > > so far I've managed to connect to a W2K Machine from a Linux 7.1 = > Machine, but not the otherway.. which would be a hell of a lot more = > useful > can someone help me do that? > > cheers > Dave > > Dave Grayburn=20 > Systems Manager=20 > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > -----------= > - > take a look at our latest project: www.lynxwhitelabel.com > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > -----------= > - > =20 > email: dave.grayburn@moonfish.com=20 > web: http://www.moonfish.com=20 > phone: +44 (0) 8700 70 4321=20 > direct line: +44 (0) 161 233 1713=20 > fax: +44 (0) 8707 41 8931 Moonfish Limited=20 > 6th Floor,=20 > 121 Princess Street=20 > Manchester,=20 > M1 7AD, UK =20 > =20 > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > -----------= > - > Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this = > message. 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Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From frank@dsea.com Tue Sep 18 20:56:07 2001 From: frank@dsea.com (Frank Evan Perdicaro) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:56:07 +0000 Subject: Suggestion for VNC diagnostic tool In-Reply-To: ; from vnc-list-digest on Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 06:25:18PM +0100 References: Message-ID: <20010918114800.09953@mail.dsea.com> Lots of people have trouble getting VNC to connect. I did too. My troubles were pretty easy to trace. Since I was running on Solaris using PPP, I put PPP in verbose mode. This let me track connection timing, IP resolution and lots of other useful stuff. When the going got tough, I ran VNC under truss, and truss under script, letting me capture every single system command. I can assure all of you, that is not for the impatient or inexperienced. It crossed my mind that it would be really useful to have a super lightweight VNC client simulator. Just a terminal window that ran through the VNC state machine. No GUI required. The tool would execute startup, then execute a single refresh request. It would always create a log. After generating a single "virtual screen refresh", the tool could only do two other things -- exit or generate another virtual screen refresh. The first draft would support only one encoding and one size. It should be ANSI C only, and probably POSIX compliant, with as few machine-specific extensions as possible. (Java, TCL and Perl implementations would probably be easier, but can we please stick with C for something trivial?) Then, without the hassle of registry entries, GUI problems, X headaches, etc., one could answer the question "can I get VNC to run here?". --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Tue Sep 18 22:19:45 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:19:45 +0000 Subject: Suggestion for VNC diagnostic tool In-Reply-To: <20010918114800.09953@mail.dsea.com> Message-ID: <001901c1407b$4b5066c0$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> Most of the time I have heard of connection problems they have been, * Screen resolution or depth * registry settings conflicting (password in current user and none in local machine) Also with settings like ports and auth... The biggest problem is when you run vnc for the first time it brings up the current user settings. Then you set the password and people don't realize that they need to set the default one to. To get past this problem I was using a reg file to import the default settings my company uses including a default password. I have since made a setup.exe to do the install with our default settings, and add the default password to the local machine. Now when we run vnc server for the first time it just starts and we can connect with the default password. If I want to change the default password, we then open the default settings and change the password there, never changing the current user settings. Since installing vnc this way, we have not had a server refuse connection since. We also run it on terminal server, this is great and the only place my users change the user settings. As you can run a server per term connection. I love the product and think one thing should be changed, on first run to open the default settings not the current user Settings. P.S. I also love the advanced settings button that was included in the latest TightVNC. Steve Palocz -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Frank Evan Perdicaro Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 2:48 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Suggestion for VNC diagnostic tool Lots of people have trouble getting VNC to connect. I did too. My troubles were pretty easy to trace. Since I was running on Solaris using PPP, I put PPP in verbose mode. This let me track connection timing, IP resolution and lots of other useful stuff. When the going got tough, I ran VNC under truss, and truss under script, letting me capture every single system command. I can assure all of you, that is not for the impatient or inexperienced. It crossed my mind that it would be really useful to have a super lightweight VNC client simulator. Just a terminal window that ran through the VNC state machine. No GUI required. The tool would execute startup, then execute a single refresh request. It would always create a log. After generating a single "virtual screen refresh", the tool could only do two other things -- exit or generate another virtual screen refresh. The first draft would support only one encoding and one size. It should be ANSI C only, and probably POSIX compliant, with as few machine-specific extensions as possible. (Java, TCL and Perl implementations would probably be easier, but can we please stick with C for something trivial?) Then, without the hassle of registry entries, GUI problems, X headaches, etc., one could answer the question "can I get VNC to run here?". --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From emcnish@hotmail.com Tue Sep 18 22:56:10 2001 From: emcnish@hotmail.com (Evan McNish) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:56:10 +0000 Subject: Multiple passwords on server Message-ID: How can I have a machine running VNC be accessible using two different passwords? I want to have one constant Administrative password for all of my machines and a second password that I can give out on a machine-to-machine basis. I know I've seen the answer to this somewhere but after an hour of searching the archives I came up dry. Thanks, Evan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From alb@iquebec.com Tue Sep 18 23:28:05 2001 From: alb@iquebec.com (Alain LaBonté) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:28:05 +0000 Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010918110837.018bcbc0@pop.iquebec.com> A 09:00 2001-09-18 -0300, Boivin, Patrice J a icrit : >VNC doesn't work against a Dell PowerEdge 6400 quad-700MHz CPU machine, 2G >of RAM, with NT Server 4 SP 6a with security hotfixes applied, including the >fixes highlighted by PatchWork. > >VNC works against an old Pentium II clone, with less memory, no brand name, >NT4 SP5. [Alain] In my case, it works well on my home LAN in the city of Quibec (the server being a Win98SE machine and my client running on a Win2K DELL portable -- yes, maybe the opposite of what it should be, but it works). However, in spite of two advices by persons willing to assist me, I was never able to make it work in remote access on my portable, the fault suspected to be in Win98SE's standard Internet connection sharing parameters (when 2 Ethernet cards are present on the server, one for Internet, one for the LAN). Even changing parameters according to another VNC user's settings (for whom it was a solution) never worked for me. The actual IP address of my home machine responds (I checked, of course) but VNC does not seem to get an answer. It would be nice if somebody would have a look at such a problem, which seems primary. Why should it be so complicated to solve such a small problem? But VNC is useful when I am at home... However I can't have access to my home files or backup from abroad... That said I would not throw the baby with the bathtub water... It is a nice product, which allows me to access files much faster at home than though the Win2K-to-Win98SE network connection. Alain LaBonti Kona, Big Island of Hawaii --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From uare@canada.com Wed Sep 19 04:51:43 2001 From: uare@canada.com (Kyle Jones) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 03:51:43 +0000 Subject: Sever Side Scaling/Zooming? In-Reply-To: <20010918093308.63716.qmail@web11608.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010918093308.63716.qmail@web11608.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010918144446.9F59C7BEA@canada.com> Hi, Is there any way of making the server scale an 800x600 desktop to 640x480? I have a laptop that can only display 640x480 but all the programs I would like to run are only visible at 800x600. The laptop isn't powerful enough to run x so it has to use svncserver (which works fine at 640x480) but it is incapable of scaling... Also I think this feature would be much better in the server anyways because it can save on bandwidth and processor time on the weaker computer. Is this type of funtionality already there? Or is it in the works? Otherwise which piece(s) of source should I be diging through? Thanks, Kyle --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From warbuckle@home.com Wed Sep 19 05:03:31 2001 From: warbuckle@home.com (William ARbuckle) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 04:03:31 +0000 Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010918110837.018bcbc0@pop.iquebec.com> Message-ID: <3BA80B2B.7040601@home.com> Hello, I have a home LAN as well with the internet gate being on a Win 98SE , 800Mhz 256 ram, with 2 NICS, one for cable internet access and the other for my internal net connection. I have 3 desktops and 2 laptops running off of this setup, I have used TridiaVNC to access my files at home, not particularly fast but it does the job quite nicely. I have also used this product on dual P 400 CPU, 1 gig ram , NT 4.0 server running sp6, again with no major problems. FYI William Arbuckle Toronto, Canada Alain LaBonti wrote: > A 09:00 2001-09-18 -0300, Boivin, Patrice J a icrit : > >> VNC doesn't work against a Dell PowerEdge 6400 quad-700MHz CPU >> machine, 2G >> of RAM, with NT Server 4 SP 6a with security hotfixes applied, >> including the >> fixes highlighted by PatchWork. >> >> VNC works against an old Pentium II clone, with less memory, no brand >> name, >> NT4 SP5. > > > [Alain] In my case, it works well on my home LAN in the city of Quibec > (the server being a Win98SE machine and my client running on a Win2K DELL > portable -- yes, maybe the opposite of what it should be, but it works). > > However, in spite of two advices by persons willing to assist me, I was > never able to make it work in remote access on my portable, the fault > suspected to be in Win98SE's standard Internet connection sharing > parameters (when 2 Ethernet cards are present on the server, one for > Internet, one for the LAN). Even changing parameters according to another > VNC user's settings (for whom it was a solution) never worked for me. The > actual IP address of my home machine responds (I checked, of course) but > VNC does not seem to get an answer. > > It would be nice if somebody would have a look at such a problem, which > seems primary. Why should it be so complicated to solve such a small > problem? > > But VNC is useful when I am at home... However I can't have access to my > home files or backup from abroad... That said I would not throw the baby > with the bathtub water... It is a nice product, which allows me to access > files much faster at home than though the Win2K-to-Win98SE network > connection. > > Alain LaBonti > Kona, Big Island of Hawaii > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ajv@greebo.net Wed Sep 19 07:03:33 2001 From: ajv@greebo.net (Andrew van der Stock) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 06:03:33 +0000 Subject: NT Service handling (was: bad review) In-Reply-To: <002901c1406d$b8357a90$84061fac@tr3789> Message-ID: <000001c140c7$e21178f0$217da8c0@tinkywinky> This is because VNC does not use NT service dependancies and uses a simplistic SCM handler, and thus is started last and terminated first. Changing things so that VNC relies on some of the other services will allow it to start a little quicker as well. For a long surviving shutdown, the best bet is to change the service control handler in WinVNC. When the SCM issues a SERVICE_ACCEPT_SHUTDOWN message, you clean up resources that can be damaged across a reboot (ie flush and close any open files and registry handles), and then issue a message called "SERVICE_CONTROL_PENDING" with 30 seconds set aside in dwWaitHint and return control to the SCM. During the shutdown, SCM ignores the pending status and WinVNC will get terminated as the box goes down just before reboot. However, if you get asked again (during a long shutdown, typical of Exchange servers, etc), just set another 30 seconds in dwWaitHint and reset the pending hint. WinVNC after doing this should *not* try to use any of the previously open files or registry keys; if the user is able to stop the shutdown and tries to change VNC settings or re-authenticate, VNC should display a dialog stating along the lines of "a shutdown did not occur properly, and should it restart VNC?". Andrew -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On Behalf Of Tony Caduto Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2001 04:14 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Bad Review of VNC at CNET Another big problem that needs to be addressed is the fact that VNC when run as a service shuts down before everything, so if something hangs after VNC shuts down, you can never restart the server.... unless you physically go the machine. Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Brodbeck" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 7:42 AM Subject: RE: Bad Review of VNC at CNET > I'll second this...would it really be that much extra work to add > dialog box > controls for some of those registry keys? Or maybe just a stand-alone > configuration utility? Even editing a flat configuration file would > be easier than having to dive into Microsoft's hellish registry > structure. ;) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew van der Stock [mailto:ajv@greebo.net] > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 10:18 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: RE: Bad Review of VNC at CNET > > > Documentation could be improved, particularly for first time users. > Dialog boxes could be better from a purist HCI point of view Security > can be made easier (particularly the hidden AuthHost stuff) > Localization could be done properly > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to > majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From const@ce.cctpu.edu.ru Wed Sep 19 07:22:27 2001 From: const@ce.cctpu.edu.ru (Const Kaplinsky) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 06:22:27 +0000 Subject: Suggestion for VNC diagnostic tool In-Reply-To: <001901c1407b$4b5066c0$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> References: <001901c1407b$4b5066c0$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> Message-ID: Hello Steve, >>>>> "SP" == Steve Palocz writes: SP> P.S. I also love the advanced settings button that was included in SP> the latest TightVNC. We should thank Robert J. Ragno for this improvement. If I understand correctly, this change is over a year old, but I was not aware of its existence until it has been included into the TridiaVNC public CVS tree... -- With Best Wishes, Constantin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From stleroux@airfrance.fr Wed Sep 19 11:01:43 2001 From: stleroux@airfrance.fr (stleroux@airfrance.fr) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:01:43 +0000 Subject: Needing information Message-ID: Hello, How could I generate "alt+tab" on the remote machine? 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John > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Conboy [mailto:alanc@spectralogic.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 5:20 PM > To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' > Subject: RE: x0rfbserver > > > it is crashing kde because of how you are starting vncserver. use the > command vncserver -cc 3 & it will run fine w/ kde > > Alan Conboy > Product Support Advisory Engineer > Spectralogic > 303-449-6400 x1552 > > "FOOT-AND-MOUTH BELIEVED TO BE FIRST VIRUS > UNABLE TO SPREAD THROUGH MICROSOFT OUTLOOK - > Researchers Shocked to Finally Find Virus That Email App Doesn't Like" > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Clegg [mailto:john.clegg@nailsea.net] > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:37 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: x0rfbserver > > > I have got VNC on Linux working quite well, but it doesn't > quite do what I > want to do (plus it crashes KDE if I try and run it instead > of twm, which is > truly horrible!) > > I would love to install x0rfbserver on my (Mandrake 8) > system, but I don't > yet know enough to work out how the hell to do it! Is there > some kind person > could give me some pointers please? 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Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From nshbyjan@gte.net Wed Sep 19 13:05:42 2001 From: nshbyjan@gte.net (Michael) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:05:42 +0000 Subject: NT Service handling (was: bad review) References: <000001c140c7$e21178f0$217da8c0@tinkywinky> Message-ID: <009301c140f9$e64a54f0$7000ad0a@willimi> I have installed the latest client on a number of Win2k machines. On about half it works and on the other half it does not work. They are all same regarding instll, etc. They all have basic Win2k not service packs. Trying to use IE version 5.5+. Any help appreciated. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew van der Stock" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 11:59 PM Subject: NT Service handling (was: bad review) > This is because VNC does not use NT service dependancies and uses a > simplistic SCM handler, and thus is started last and terminated first. > Changing things so that VNC relies on some of the other services will > allow it to start a little quicker as well. > > For a long surviving shutdown, the best bet is to change the service > control handler in WinVNC. When the SCM issues a SERVICE_ACCEPT_SHUTDOWN > message, you clean up resources that can be damaged across a reboot (ie > flush and close any open files and registry handles), and then issue a > message called "SERVICE_CONTROL_PENDING" with 30 seconds set aside in > dwWaitHint and return control to the SCM. > > During the shutdown, SCM ignores the pending status and WinVNC will get > terminated as the box goes down just before reboot. However, if you get > asked again (during a long shutdown, typical of Exchange servers, etc), > just set another 30 seconds in dwWaitHint and reset the pending hint. > > WinVNC after doing this should *not* try to use any of the previously > open files or registry keys; if the user is able to stop the shutdown > and tries to change VNC settings or re-authenticate, VNC should display > a dialog stating along the lines of "a shutdown did not occur properly, > and should it restart VNC?". > > Andrew > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On Behalf Of Tony Caduto > Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2001 04:14 > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: Bad Review of VNC at CNET > > > Another big problem that needs to be addressed is the fact that VNC when > run as a service shuts down before everything, so if something hangs > after VNC shuts down, you can never restart the server.... unless you > physically go the machine. > > Tony Caduto > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Brodbeck" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 7:42 AM > Subject: RE: Bad Review of VNC at CNET > > > > I'll second this...would it really be that much extra work to add > > dialog > box > > controls for some of those registry keys? Or maybe just a stand-alone > > > configuration utility? Even editing a flat configuration file would > > be easier than having to dive into Microsoft's hellish registry > > structure. ;) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andrew van der Stock [mailto:ajv@greebo.net] > > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 10:18 PM > > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > Subject: RE: Bad Review of VNC at CNET > > > > > > Documentation could be improved, particularly for first time users. > > Dialog boxes could be better from a purist HCI point of view Security > > can be made easier (particularly the hidden AuthHost stuff) > > Localization could be done properly > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to > > majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to > majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jordan.howarth@cmis.csiro.au Wed Sep 19 14:40:12 2001 From: jordan.howarth@cmis.csiro.au (Jordan) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:40:12 +0000 Subject: java application on xvncviewer Message-ID: <15272.36431.723235.858866@pride.nsw.cmis.CSIRO.AU> Hi, I am running vncserver on a linux box and vncviewer on windows. I have compiled a very simple java application on the linux box consisting mainly of a JFrame and a menubar. When I run the application all I get is an X window with a black pane. If I guess where the menubar should be, the application produces other window (as per the code) but it to is just a black pane. The application works fine under a normal Xserver so it is nothing to do with setBackground (mycolour), etc. Do I need to set a class path in xstartup or something for this to work, or what? Thanks, Jord --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jnw22@cam.ac.uk Wed Sep 19 17:57:25 2001 From: jnw22@cam.ac.uk (James ''Wez'' Weatherall) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:57:25 +0000 Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET Message-ID: <001b01c14122$c9d99d20$1062a981@eng.cam.ac.uk> > VNC doesn't work against a Dell PowerEdge 6400 quad-700MHz CPU machine, 2G > of RAM, with NT Server 4 SP 6a with security hotfixes applied, including the > fixes highlighted by PatchWork. > > VNC works against an old Pentium II clone, with less memory, no brand name, > NT4 SP5. These machines have significantly different operating system configurations. Obvious things to check are that you really do have SP6a, not SP6, and that the PatchWork "fixes" are correctly applied and don't do anything dumb, like changing permissions on bits of the registry to the wrong values. --- James "Wez" Weatherall "The path to enlightenment is /usr/bin/enlightenment" Laboratory for Communications Engineering, Cambridge - Tel : 766513 AT&T Labs Cambridge, UK - Tel : 343000 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jnw22@cam.ac.uk Wed Sep 19 17:57:27 2001 From: jnw22@cam.ac.uk (James ''Wez'' Weatherall) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:57:27 +0000 Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET Message-ID: <002301c14123$0bbf45f0$1062a981@eng.cam.ac.uk> > I'll second this...would it really be that much extra work to add dialog box > controls for some of those registry keys? Or maybe just a stand-alone > configuration utility? Even editing a flat configuration file would be > easier than having to dive into Microsoft's hellish registry structure. ;) If anyone wants to write such a beast then I'll make sure we put a link to it on our contribs page. I'm too busy writing my PhD. Thesis to do it myself, I'm afraid. :( --- James "Wez" Weatherall "The path to enlightenment is /usr/bin/enlightenment" Laboratory for Communications Engineering, Cambridge - Tel : 766513 AT&T Labs Cambridge, UK - Tel : 343000 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jnw22@cam.ac.uk Wed Sep 19 17:59:45 2001 From: jnw22@cam.ac.uk (James ''Wez'' Weatherall) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:59:45 +0000 Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET Message-ID: <003301c14123$a09eb160$1062a981@eng.cam.ac.uk> > I have Windows XP and i am trying to get vnc to work .. any suggestions? it > won't connect.. is there going to be a new VNC release for XP? What do you mean by "won't connect"? If it really can't connect, check your TCP/IP settings. You should be able to "telnet :5900" if your TCP/IP settings are correct, and see the text "RFB 003.003" or similar. If you don't get any error message, or you get a Connection Closed, it's probably because you are running WinVNC as an application and the PC is locked, or because you are using Fast User Switching under XP, which I can't currently support. Finally, if it can't authenticate, make sure the Default User Properties password is set correctly. Cheers, --- James "Wez" Weatherall "The path to enlightenment is /usr/bin/enlightenment" Laboratory for Communications Engineering, Cambridge - Tel : 766513 AT&T Labs Cambridge, UK - Tel : 343000 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jnw22@cam.ac.uk Wed Sep 19 18:05:41 2001 From: jnw22@cam.ac.uk (James ''Wez'' Weatherall) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:05:41 +0000 Subject: VNC on iPAQ Message-ID: <003b01c14124$33c485f0$1062a981@eng.cam.ac.uk> > Has anybody used VNC on an IPAQ ? > The build I'm using doesn't seem to allow you to set the encoding to RAW > mode, it just seems to keep defaulting back to Hextile ? > It seems VERY slow even though it has a ubiquitous 10MB connection to the > server. > We are trying to evaluate VNC as a possible remote mapping tool, but the > software really seems to struggle with high-density screen information (ie a > map that doesnt have a high degree of redundancy). > I've seen the data transfer from the server peek at around 48K per second, > but thats bugger all ! > Also I'm worried about colour depth mismatches, the IPAQ has a fixed colour > depth of 12bit ie 4096 colours, this obviously isnt an option on the server > screen. Check whether or not the iPAQ is using power-saving on the network - power saving adds huge latency which cripples remote display systems like X and VNC. Check that your application is not repeatedly drawing its whole display unnecessarily, like Mozilla tends to do, which is bad to do remotely. Also note that VNC encodes large flat areas of colour or areas with sparse detail best. Finally, note that the iPAQ has a relatively slow internal bus, if I remember correctly, which probably doesn't help anything that is graphically intensive. (Having said that, iPAQs are ace, I should point out. :) ) --- James "Wez" Weatherall "The path to enlightenment is /usr/bin/enlightenment" Laboratory for Communications Engineering, Cambridge - Tel : 766513 AT&T Labs Cambridge, UK - Tel : 343000 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ccastro@ideianet.pt Wed Sep 19 18:44:59 2001 From: ccastro@ideianet.pt (Carlos Castro) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:44:59 +0000 Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET References: <003301c14123$a09eb160$1062a981@eng.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <005401c14127$5ad20d90$3e49e53e@carlos> Try disabling the firewall functions in win XP Carlos Castro ----- Original Message ----- From: "James ''Wez'' Weatherall" To: "VNC-LIST" Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 4:56 PM Subject: RE: Bad Review of VNC at CNET > > I have Windows XP and i am trying to get vnc to work .. any suggestions? > it > > won't connect.. is there going to be a new VNC release for XP? > > What do you mean by "won't connect"? If it really can't connect, check your > TCP/IP settings. You should be able to "telnet :5900" if your > TCP/IP settings are correct, and see the text "RFB 003.003" or similar. > > If you don't get any error message, or you get a Connection Closed, it's > probably because you are running WinVNC as an application and the PC is > locked, or because you are using Fast User Switching under XP, which I can't > currently support. > > Finally, if it can't authenticate, make sure the Default User Properties > password is set correctly. > > Cheers, > > --- > James "Wez" Weatherall > "The path to enlightenment is /usr/bin/enlightenment" > Laboratory for Communications Engineering, Cambridge - Tel : 766513 > AT&T Labs Cambridge, UK - Tel : 343000 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From nshbyjan@gte.net Wed Sep 19 19:52:34 2001 From: nshbyjan@gte.net (Michael) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 18:52:34 +0000 Subject: can not connect to VNC References: <003301c14123$a09eb160$1062a981@eng.cam.ac.uk> <005401c14127$5ad20d90$3e49e53e@carlos> Message-ID: <001701c14132$8e3cbd00$7000ad0a@willimi> I have installed the latest client on a number of Win2k machines. On about half it works and on the other half it does not work. They are all same regarding instll, etc. They all have basic Win2k not service packs. Trying to use IE version 5.5+. Also, let me clarify, I can connect but when I enter the correct password (yes it is correct) I get a message stating that VNC does not have a valid password enabled. Until a password is set, incoming connections cannot be accepted. I am getting this on about 12 machines out of maybe 35. Same software, on either Win2k or NT 4. There does not seem to be any same variables either. Any help appreciated. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Wed Sep 19 21:09:42 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:09:42 +0000 Subject: can not connect to VNC In-Reply-To: <001701c14132$8e3cbd00$7000ad0a@willimi> Message-ID: <002301c1413c$08627d00$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> I think this is the current user password is set you need to set the default (local machine) password. This can be found in start -> programs -> vnc -> administrative tools -> Show default settings. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Michael Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 1:43 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: can not connect to VNC I have installed the latest client on a number of Win2k machines. On about half it works and on the other half it does not work. They are all same regarding instll, etc. They all have basic Win2k not service packs. Trying to use IE version 5.5+. Also, let me clarify, I can connect but when I enter the correct password (yes it is correct) I get a message stating that VNC does not have a valid password enabled. Until a password is set, incoming connections cannot be accepted. I am getting this on about 12 machines out of maybe 35. Same software, on either Win2k or NT 4. There does not seem to be any same variables either. Any help appreciated. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From nshbyjan@gte.net Wed Sep 19 21:47:08 2001 From: nshbyjan@gte.net (Michael Williams) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:47:08 +0000 Subject: can not connect to VNC In-Reply-To: <002301c1413c$08627d00$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> Message-ID: <000a01c14143$469ad110$0700a8c0@solutions.com> I have set the default password inside of VNC. Several times. Also re-booted the server, stopped and started the service, etc. The only way to use these machines is to log on locally, but of course that is not what I want to do. Michael -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On Behalf Of Steve Palocz Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 1:51 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: can not connect to VNC I think this is the current user password is set you need to set the default (local machine) password. This can be found in start -> programs -> vnc -> administrative tools -> Show default settings. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Michael Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 1:43 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: can not connect to VNC I have installed the latest client on a number of Win2k machines. On about half it works and on the other half it does not work. They are all same regarding instll, etc. They all have basic Win2k not service packs. Trying to use IE version 5.5+. Also, let me clarify, I can connect but when I enter the correct password (yes it is correct) I get a message stating that VNC does not have a valid password enabled. Until a password is set, incoming connections cannot be accepted. I am getting this on about 12 machines out of maybe 35. Same software, on either Win2k or NT 4. There does not seem to be any same variables either. Any help appreciated. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Wed Sep 19 22:54:32 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 21:54:32 +0000 Subject: can not connect to VNC In-Reply-To: <000a01c14143$469ad110$0700a8c0@solutions.com> Message-ID: <000601c1414a$d4596be0$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> My next suggestion is to remove the reg settings for the current user. just delete the hkey_current_user/software/orl group. Make sure to stop winvnc first, then restart it. It will take the password from the local machine and all should be fine. If not try to disable authorization. (to see if it is a password problem or not). I have seen this when the ports keys are different. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Michael Williams Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 3:42 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: can not connect to VNC I have set the default password inside of VNC. Several times. Also re-booted the server, stopped and started the service, etc. The only way to use these machines is to log on locally, but of course that is not what I want to do. Michael -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On Behalf Of Steve Palocz Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 1:51 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: can not connect to VNC I think this is the current user password is set you need to set the default (local machine) password. This can be found in start -> programs -> vnc -> administrative tools -> Show default settings. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Michael Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 1:43 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: can not connect to VNC I have installed the latest client on a number of Win2k machines. On about half it works and on the other half it does not work. They are all same regarding instll, etc. They all have basic Win2k not service packs. Trying to use IE version 5.5+. Also, let me clarify, I can connect but when I enter the correct password (yes it is correct) I get a message stating that VNC does not have a valid password enabled. Until a password is set, incoming connections cannot be accepted. I am getting this on about 12 machines out of maybe 35. Same software, on either Win2k or NT 4. There does not seem to be any same variables either. Any help appreciated. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From uare@canada.com Thu Sep 20 01:59:13 2001 From: uare@canada.com (Kyle Jones) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 00:59:13 +0000 Subject: Sever Side Scaling/Zooming? Message-ID: <20010919115325.63BD47BEA@canada.com> Is the screen buffered before it is sent sent across the network? If so which C file contains that? Kyle ____________________ Hi, Is there any way of making the server scale an 800x600 desktop to 640x480? I have a laptop that can only display 640x480 but all the programs I would like to run are only visible at 800x600. The laptop isn't powerful enough to run x so it has to use svncserver (which works fine at 640x480) but it is incapable of scaling... Also I think this feature would be much better in the server anyways because it can save on bandwidth and processor time on the weaker computer. Is this type of functionality already there? Or is it in the works? Otherwise which piece(s) of source should I be digging through? Thanks, Kyle --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jenneyr@peakonline.com Thu Sep 20 02:30:43 2001 From: jenneyr@peakonline.com (Russell E. Jenney) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 01:30:43 +0000 Subject: MacIntosh VNCviewer Message-ID: <3BA937E1.1CA15DF9@peakonline.com> I have a home personal LAN consisting of two AMD Thunderbird machines running Windows 2000 Professional, a Sun Blade 100 running Solaris 8; and a MacIntosh 7100/66 PowerPC running MacOS9.1. Both Windows machines talk to each other and to all on the LAN, same for the Sun Blade. All of the non-MacIntosh machines can view and run the Mac with no problems. VNC loaded successfully, according to the dialogue box, but when I try to view any other machine on the LAN, I get a stop sign dialogue box with: "T_DNRSTRINGTOADDRCOMPLETE fails- 3170kOTBadNameErr - A bad endpoint name was supplied." Two reloads and two separate name changes for the Machines have not recified the problem. Anyone with any Ideas? Thank you. Russ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ajv@greebo.net Thu Sep 20 03:13:36 2001 From: ajv@greebo.net (Andrew van der Stock) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 02:13:36 +0000 Subject: Win2k installation failures (was: RE: NT Service handling (was: bad review)) In-Reply-To: <009301c140f9$e64a54f0$7000ad0a@willimi> Message-ID: <006401c1416f$50d73160$217da8c0@tinkywinky> The main reason that you might have a failure is if the Terminal Server extensions are also installed. TermSrv completely changes the way the NT console (the primary Windows "station") is handled. As soon as we work out how to co-exist or leverage the TermSrv stuff (some of it is very nice), these failures will go away. In today's security environment, you should use Windows Update as often as you can (and at least weekly). Having SP0 when SP2 + hotfixes are available is just asking for trouble. If I was still running Win2K, I'd be using IE6, SP2, DirectX 8, latest everything. It's the best way. Andrew -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2001 20:58 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: NT Service handling (was: bad review) I have installed the latest client on a number of Win2k machines. On about half it works and on the other half it does not work. They are all same regarding instll, etc. They all have basic Win2k not service packs. Trying to use IE version 5.5+. Any help appreciated. Michael --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tlatshaw@mac.com Thu Sep 20 03:30:04 2001 From: tlatshaw@mac.com (Timothy Latshaw) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 02:30:04 +0000 Subject: MacIntosh VNCviewer References: <3BA937E1.1CA15DF9@peakonline.com> Message-ID: <3BA9459B.6030400@mac.com> Use the IP address of the non-Mac machines in the Mac client, instead of the machine names. I have had the same problem, and that cleared it up. BTW, you may want to try VNCThing, a Mac client that is much more stable and Mac-like, if that is important to you. It is available at www.webthing.net/vncthing. T. Latshaw Russell E. Jenney wrote: > I have a home personal LAN consisting of two AMD Thunderbird machines > running Windows 2000 Professional, a Sun Blade 100 running Solaris 8; > and a MacIntosh 7100/66 PowerPC running MacOS9.1. Both Windows machines > talk to each other and to all on the LAN, same for the Sun Blade. All of > the non-MacIntosh machines can view and run the Mac with no problems. > > VNC loaded successfully, according to the dialogue box, but when I try > to view any other machine on the LAN, I get a stop sign dialogue box > with: > "T_DNRSTRINGTOADDRCOMPLETE fails- 3170kOTBadNameErr - A bad endpoint > name was supplied." > Two reloads and two separate name changes for the Machines have not > recified the problem. Anyone with any Ideas? > Thank you. > > Russ > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From kiuchi@nsg.sgi.com Thu Sep 20 03:32:55 2001 From: kiuchi@nsg.sgi.com (Mitsutoshi Kiuchi) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 02:32:55 +0000 Subject: IRIX 6.5 build Message-ID: <3BA94733.7090600@nsg.sgi.com> Hello. I found a bit of mistake about Ellis's Howto. > 2) in vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/config/cf, edit vnc.def: > change > > #define XvncRelease "3r2" > to > > #define XvncRelease \"3r2"\ This line #define XvncRelease \"3r2"\ should be changed to #define XvncRelease \"3r2\" Regards. -- kiuchi --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tng@cyberus.ca Thu Sep 20 04:32:20 2001 From: tng@cyberus.ca (Michael Milette) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 03:32:20 +0000 Subject: Sever Side Scaling/Zooming? In-Reply-To: <20010918144446.9F59C7BEA@canada.com> References: <20010918093308.63716.qmail@web11608.mail.yahoo.com> <20010918093308.63716.qmail@web11608.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010919221926.00ac9160@mail.cyberus.ca> Hi Kyle, There sure is. Go into the connection options of the WinVNC client, either before you connect by clicking on the "Options..." button where you enter then address of the host machine you want to connect to or even after connecting by right click the VNC button on the task bar and select "Connection Options", and look for the "Scale by" setting in the "Display" section of the dialog box. Configure as needed and click OK. That's all there is too it. Hope that helps... Michael Milette TNG Consulting Inc. At 10:44 AM 2001-09-18, you wrote: >Hi, >Is there any way of making the server scale an 800x600 desktop to 640x480? I >have a laptop that can only display 640x480 but all the programs I would like >to run are only visible at 800x600. The laptop isn't powerful enough to run >x so it has to use svncserver (which works fine at 640x480) but it is >incapable of scaling... Also I think this feature would be much better in the >server anyways because it can save on bandwidth and processor time on the >weaker computer. >Is this type of funtionality already there? Or is it in the works? >Otherwise which piece(s) of source should I be diging through? >Thanks, >Kyle >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list >to majordomo@uk.research.att.com >See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html >--------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From uare@canada.com Thu Sep 20 05:52:31 2001 From: uare@canada.com (Kyle Jones) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 04:52:31 +0000 Subject: Sever Side Scaling/Zooming? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20010919221926.00ac9160@mail.cyberus.ca> References: <20010918093308.63716.qmail@web11608.mail.yahoo.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20010919221926.00ac9160@mail.cyberus.ca> Message-ID: <20010919154722.83C747BEA@canada.com> Sorry, for the confusion, Linux, X server... Kyle On September 19, 2001 07:25 pm, you wrote: > Hi Kyle, > > There sure is. Go into the connection options of the WinVNC client, either > before you connect by clicking on the "Options..." button where you enter > then address of the host machine you want to connect to or even after > connecting by right click the VNC button on the task bar and select > "Connection Options", and look for the "Scale by" setting in the "Display" > section of the dialog box. Configure as needed and click OK. That's all > there is too it. > > Hope that helps... > > Michael Milette > TNG Consulting Inc. > > At 10:44 AM 2001-09-18, you wrote: > >Hi, > >Is there any way of making the server scale an 800x600 desktop to 640x480? > > I have a laptop that can only display 640x480 but all the programs I > > would like to run are only visible at 800x600. The laptop isn't powerful > > enough to run x so it has to use svncserver (which works fine at 640x480) > > but it is incapable of scaling... Also I think this feature would be much > > better in the server anyways because it can save on bandwidth and > > processor time on the weaker computer. > >Is this type of funtionality already there? Or is it in the works? > >Otherwise which piece(s) of source should I be diging through? > >Thanks, > >Kyle > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > >to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > >See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Thomas.Herrmann@teleteach.de Thu Sep 20 12:43:45 2001 From: Thomas.Herrmann@teleteach.de (Thomas Herrmann) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 11:43:45 +0000 Subject: Screen-Presentation Message-ID: <48379.212.11.226.44.1000981923.squirrel@webmail.teleteach.d e> Hello, we would like to use VNC to distribute the screen of a presenter PC to several participants. This is possible with the "-shared" option, but we have two issues about thisat the moment: 1) Is it possible to route a VNC session through a firewall, e.g. a Web-Proxy? Is there anyknown attempt to do something like that? 2) Would it be possible not to connect the viewers to the presenters machine, but insteadconnect both the presenter and the viewers to a centralized server, which does thedistribution of the screen content? Any hint or URL would be of great help. Thanks a lot! Kind regards Thomas Herrmann -- Teleteach GmbH Jeschkenstr. 49, 82538 Geretsried, Germany Tel. +49.8171.929590, Fax +49.8171.929592 http://www.teleteach.de/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Thu Sep 20 14:39:22 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 13:39:22 +0000 Subject: Screen-Presentation Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04DFF@QMAIL> search the mailing list archives for "Teleteach". -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Herrmann [mailto:Thomas.Herrmann@teleteach.de] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 6:32 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Screen-Presentation Hello, we would like to use VNC to distribute the screen of a presenter PC to several participants. This is possible with the "-shared" option, but we have two issues about thisat the moment: 1) Is it possible to route a VNC session through a firewall, e.g. a Web-Proxy? Is there anyknown attempt to do something like that? 2) Would it be possible not to connect the viewers to the presenters machine, but insteadconnect both the presenter and the viewers to a centralized server, which does thedistribution of the screen content? Any hint or URL would be of great help. Thanks a lot! Kind regards Thomas Herrmann -- Teleteach GmbH Jeschkenstr. 49, 82538 Geretsried, Germany Tel. +49.8171.929590, Fax +49.8171.929592 http://www.teleteach.de/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Thu Sep 20 14:39:50 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 13:39:50 +0000 Subject: Win2k installation failures (was: RE: NT Service handling (wa s: bad review)) Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04DFE@QMAIL> unfortunetally, MS's "latest" in general has a nasty habit of breaking things :( -----Original Message----- From: Andrew van der Stock [mailto:ajv@greebo.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 8:58 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Win2k installation failures (was: RE: NT Service handling (was: bad review)) The main reason that you might have a failure is if the Terminal Server extensions are also installed. TermSrv completely changes the way the NT console (the primary Windows "station") is handled. As soon as we work out how to co-exist or leverage the TermSrv stuff (some of it is very nice), these failures will go away. In today's security environment, you should use Windows Update as often as you can (and at least weekly). Having SP0 when SP2 + hotfixes are available is just asking for trouble. If I was still running Win2K, I'd be using IE6, SP2, DirectX 8, latest everything. It's the best way. Andrew -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2001 20:58 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: NT Service handling (was: bad review) I have installed the latest client on a number of Win2k machines. On about half it works and on the other half it does not work. They are all same regarding instll, etc. They all have basic Win2k not service packs. Trying to use IE version 5.5+. Any help appreciated. Michael --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sbowen@seiscan.com Thu Sep 20 14:43:40 2001 From: sbowen@seiscan.com (Simon Bowen) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 13:43:40 +0000 Subject: Display problem Message-ID: <51318BAA7DCCD11191D000A0244EADB42EC934@SEILON01> Hi, I have looked through the mail archive but did not see any obvious solution to the problem I am having in generating graphical displays from an application when using vncserver / viewer. My setup is as follows. SUN Solaris 2.5.1 machine running vncserver (on display :1) using Xvnc ver3.3.3r2. The viewer is running on a WinNT 4 (sp6) machine and accesses the vncserver through the standard TCP/IP port 5901. I can start the vncserver ok, connect to it and display the X desktop in my viewer. I can start my application from my PC using the xterm in the viewers X desktop and it appears fine (dimensions are ok and colours look fine - depth is set to 32 in the vncserver perl script). I can run most things from within the application but when I try to create a new graphical window the operation is aborted and gives the error message that it was 'unable to get enough colours'. There is no clear error in the vnc log file however it does include the line: rfbProcessClientNormalMessage: ignoring unknown encoding type 3 Is this significant? I am able to run the application on the SUN system and display it to the :0 display (default screen). The software is regularly used by remote SUN solaris systems using rlogin and then setting the application to redisplay on to the remote system (setenv DISPLAY remote_machine_name:0). I have tried to change the colour settings using the -cc 3 option but when I include this switch the vncserver fails to start and gives the error that it 'couldn't add screen', 'xrdb: connection refused', 'xrdb: Can't open display 'danu:1''. The problem seems to lie in the allocation of colours / colour resources but I am not familiar with X and would appreciate some help. Can somebody suggest a way to fix this problem. Thanks Simon email: sbowen@seiscan.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From david.m.fisher@eds.com Thu Sep 20 16:17:16 2001 From: david.m.fisher@eds.com (Fisher, Dave) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 15:17:16 +0000 Subject: Needing information Message-ID: <8AA870658244D4119AF600508BDF0A3604BC6524@usahm014.exmi01.ex ch.eds.com> This is a common question for someone just starting to use WinVNC. to send a alt or ctrl key to the remote host you have to do it in four steps. 1) Right click on the Window Title section, this will bring up a pop up menu for you to choose from. 2) Select Alt Down this will be interpreted by the remote PC as the Alt key being depressed. 3) Press your Tab key. I have found on the NT environment, that to see the pop up display of tasks to choose from, I have to move my cursor over the middle of the screen to show it. 4) Press the Alt Key. This will be interpreted by the remote PC as the Alt key being released. -----Original Message----- From: stleroux@airfrance.fr [mailto:stleroux@airfrance.fr] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 4:04 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Needing information Hello, How could I generate "alt+tab" on the remote machine? Thanks S.Leroux ---------------- Les donnees et renseignements contenus dans ce message sont personnels, confidentiels et secrets. Ce message est adresse a l'individu ou l'entite dont les coordonnees figurent ci-dessus. Si vous n'etes pas le bon destinataire, nous vous demandons de ne pas lire, copier, utiliser ou divulguer cette communication. Nous vous prions de notifier cette erreur a l'expediteur et d'effacer immediatement cette communication de votre systeme. The information contained in this message is privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. This message is intended for the individual or entity adressed herein. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose this communication to others ;also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From himnori@netvigator.com Thu Sep 20 16:38:51 2001 From: himnori@netvigator.com (HiM) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 15:38:51 +0000 Subject: Needing information References: <8AA870658244D4119AF600508BDF0A3604BC6524@usahm014.exmi01.ex ch.eds.com> Message-ID: <000901c141e2$b4dcad20$0100a8c0@him> Hi there, What is "alt down"? sorry..i am a new user... thx HiM ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fisher, Dave" To: Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 10:12 PM Subject: RE: Needing information > This is a common question for someone just starting to use WinVNC. > > to send a alt or ctrl key to the remote host you have to do it in four > steps. > > 1) Right click on the Window Title section, this will bring up a pop up menu > for you to choose from. > 2) Select Alt Down this will be interpreted by the remote PC as the Alt > key being depressed. > 3) Press your Tab key. I have found on the NT environment, that to see the > pop up display of tasks to choose from, I have to move my cursor over the > middle of the screen to show it. > 4) Press the Alt Key. This will be interpreted by the remote PC as the Alt > key being released. > > -----Original Message----- > From: stleroux@airfrance.fr [mailto:stleroux@airfrance.fr] > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 4:04 AM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Needing information > > > Hello, > > How could I generate "alt+tab" on the remote machine? > > Thanks > > S.Leroux > > > > ---------------- > > Les donnees et renseignements contenus dans ce message sont personnels, > confidentiels et secrets. Ce message est adresse a l'individu ou l'entite > dont les coordonnees figurent ci-dessus. Si vous n'etes pas le bon > destinataire, nous vous demandons de ne pas lire, copier, utiliser ou > divulguer cette communication. Nous vous prions de notifier cette erreur a > l'expediteur et d'effacer immediatement cette communication de votre > systeme. > > The information contained in this message is privileged, confidential, and > protected from disclosure. This message is intended for the individual or > entity adressed herein. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not > read, copy, use or disclose this communication to others ;also please notify > the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From abdel_omri@yahoo.com Thu Sep 20 17:39:05 2001 From: abdel_omri@yahoo.com (abdel omri) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:39:05 +0000 Subject: WinVnc getting started Message-ID: <20010920153415.79063.qmail@web10705.mail.yahoo.com> Dear Friends, I downlaoded the software WinVnc from the internet and intalled it to my computer (PC window 98)at home and I did the same thing to my computer (PC window 98) at work. I have an icone in both computer at my right hand next the time clock. I want to get started but without succes. Please Help Abdel __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gbruce@qwest.com Thu Sep 20 18:02:13 2001 From: gbruce@qwest.com (Gregory Bruce) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 17:02:13 +0000 Subject: Logging on with the computer name Message-ID: <3BAA047A.44E04D2B@qwest.com> Okay, I'm trying this question again. I tried on 8/30 with no response. I assume it's because the answer is so simple. I can't believe that none of you know the answer: I am very sorry if the answer to this question is a part of the archives somewhere. I have looked and can't find. I also apologize in advance for what may be an obvious answer to most of you. We are starting to load VNC on WINNT4.0 SP6 servers. They are located all over the state. Our goal is to RAS into them and load VNC remotely. Our problem is that, even if we load VNC locally, we have to enter the IP address instead of the server name to log in at 'VNC Server:'. This will become a problem when we go a step farther to the individual workstations, through the server, because they are dynamic and the IP could change. Where do I tell VNC in the server to accept the computer name? It works at one site but we can't see any difference in what was done to configure it. What are we missing? Thanks. So far, VNC is great! Greg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Thu Sep 20 19:21:14 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 18:21:14 +0000 Subject: params list of java applet Message-ID: Does anybody out there know off hand or know where to find the list and values for if you wanted or have to create your own viewer.html. Of particular interest is and any other parameter that would turn of any active user interaction except cursor movement. Reference to "Teleteach" is not very helpful in the context Dietmar (for everything else steve palocz is a guru - believe me, I've experienced it) [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From boerio@ichips.intel.com Thu Sep 20 19:24:22 2001 From: boerio@ichips.intel.com (Jeff Boerio) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 18:24:22 +0000 Subject: Display problem In-Reply-To: <51318BAA7DCCD11191D000A0244EADB42EC934@SEILON01> from "Simon Bowen" at Sep 20, 2001 01:31:53 PM Message-ID: <200109201718.KAA13284@plxw0032.pdx.intel.com> Simon, My original thought on your problem is that your xstartup file might be hard-coding itself to display danu:1? Or, is there already a VNC session running on danu:1 that it cannot connect to? I think the problem is not in X itself, but rather making sure you can start it with -cc 3. - Jeff > >Hi, > >I have looked through the mail archive but did not see any obvious solution >to the problem I am having in generating graphical displays from an >application when using vncserver / viewer. > >My setup is as follows. SUN Solaris 2.5.1 machine running vncserver (on >display :1) using Xvnc ver3.3.3r2. The viewer is running on a WinNT 4 (sp6) >machine and accesses the vncserver through the standard TCP/IP port 5901. I >can start the vncserver ok, connect to it and display the X desktop in my >viewer. I can start my application from my PC using the xterm in the viewers >X desktop and it appears fine (dimensions are ok and colours look fine - >depth is set to 32 in the vncserver perl script). I can run most things from >within the application but when I try to create a new graphical window the >operation is aborted and gives the error message that it was 'unable to get >enough colours'. There is no clear error in the vnc log file however it does >include the line: >rfbProcessClientNormalMessage: ignoring unknown encoding type 3 >Is this significant? > >I am able to run the application on the SUN system and display it to the :0 >display (default screen). The software is regularly used by remote SUN >solaris systems using rlogin and then setting the application to redisplay >on to the remote system (setenv DISPLAY remote_machine_name:0). > >I have tried to change the colour settings using the -cc 3 option but when I >include this switch the vncserver fails to start and gives the error that it >'couldn't add screen', 'xrdb: connection refused', 'xrdb: Can't open display >'danu:1''. The problem seems to lie in the allocation of colours / colour >resources but I am not familiar with X and would appreciate some help. > >Can somebody suggest a way to fix this problem. > >Thanks > >Simon >email: sbowen@seiscan.com >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list >to majordomo@uk.research.att.com >See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- Jeff Boerio, DPG-OR Engineering Computing, boerio@ichips.intel.com Mgr, UNIX Software Applications & Support Desk: (503) 712-2175 Mobile: (503) 887-0113 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From JLesch@MUELLHEIM.HELIOS-KLINIKEN.de Thu Sep 20 19:28:54 2001 From: JLesch@MUELLHEIM.HELIOS-KLINIKEN.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Lesch=2C_J=F6rg=22?=) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 18:28:54 +0000 Subject: AW: Logging on with the computer name Message-ID: <57C3A1A862A3D511B8B400508BEAD5820124F9@MUE02> I'm not sure about this but I had this kind of a problem for diffrent programm. My Solution for static IPs is a host file on every workstation called lmhosts. The contens looks like this 102.54.94.117 computername with Dynamic IP I would suggest your own DNS server. . .hope this helps or gets you on the right track Jvrg -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Gregory Bruce [mailto:gbruce@qwest.com] Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 20. September 2001 17:00 An: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Betreff: Logging on with the computer name Okay, I'm trying this question again. I tried on 8/30 with no response. I assume it's because the answer is so simple. I can't believe that none of you know the answer: I am very sorry if the answer to this question is a part of the archives somewhere. I have looked and can't find. I also apologize in advance for what may be an obvious answer to most of you. We are starting to load VNC on WINNT4.0 SP6 servers. They are located all over the state. Our goal is to RAS into them and load VNC remotely. Our problem is that, even if we load VNC locally, we have to enter the IP address instead of the server name to log in at 'VNC Server:'. This will become a problem when we go a step farther to the individual workstations, through the server, because they are dynamic and the IP could change. Where do I tell VNC in the server to accept the computer name? It works at one site but we can't see any difference in what was done to configure it. What are we missing? Thanks. So far, VNC is great! Greg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From const@ce.cctpu.edu.ru Thu Sep 20 19:48:21 2001 From: const@ce.cctpu.edu.ru (Const Kaplinsky) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 18:48:21 +0000 Subject: Screen-Presentation In-Reply-To: <48379.212.11.226.44.1000981923.squirrel@webmail.teleteach. d e> References: <48379.212.11.226.44.1000981923.squirrel@webmail.teleteach.d e> Message-ID: Hello Thomas, >>>>> "TH" == Thomas Herrmann writes: TH> Hello, we would like to use VNC to distribute the screen of a TH> presenter PC to several participants. This is possible with the TH> "-shared" option, but we have two issues about thisat the moment: TH> 1) Is it possible to route a VNC session through a firewall, e.g. TH> a Web-Proxy? TH> Is there anyknown attempt to do something like that? TH> 2) Would it be possible not to connect the viewers to the TH> presenters machine, TH> but insteadconnect both the presenter and the viewers to a TH> centralized server, which does thedistribution of the screen TH> content? Currently, I work on a project which I think matches your requirements pretty well. The program is fully functional already but the code is not available at this point, we have to ensure all copyright stuff is ok before it would be publicly released. All I can say at this point is that it should be freely available fairly soon under the terms of BSD-like licence. -- With Best Wishes, Constantin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From const@ce.cctpu.edu.ru Thu Sep 20 20:16:33 2001 From: const@ce.cctpu.edu.ru (Const Kaplinsky) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 19:16:33 +0000 Subject: params list of java applet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Dietmar, >>>>> "DFd" == Dietmar Friesch@isisconsulting de writes: DFd> Does anybody out there know off hand or know where to find the DFd> list and values for DFd> ARCHIVE=vncviewer.jar > DFd> if you wanted or have to create your own viewer.html. DFd> Of particular interest is You can find the list of parameters in the optionsFrame.java file. :-) For example, here are parameters understood by TightVNC 1.2.1 Java viewer (to be released during next week). === cut === static String[] names = { "Encoding", "Compression level", "Cursor shape updates", "Use CopyRect", "Mouse buttons 2 and 3", "Share desktop", "View only", }; static String[][] values = { { "Raw", "RRE", "CoRRE", "Hextile", "Zlib", "Tight" }, { "Default", "1", "2", "3", "4", "5", "6", "7", "8", "9" }, { "Enable", "Ignore", "Disable" }, { "Yes", "No" }, { "Normal", "Reversed" }, { "Yes", "No" }, { "Yes", "No" }, }; === cut === Also, there are HOST, PORT and (recently added) PASSWORD parameters. -- With Best Wishes, Constantin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From maillist@devilsplayground.net Thu Sep 20 20:39:20 2001 From: maillist@devilsplayground.net (Dave Warren) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 19:39:20 +0000 Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET In-Reply-To: <3BA717B3.7F959413@cardinalengineering.com> References: <200109180434.WAA05357@spool1.cadvision.com> <0e5101c14006$d5f10b10$f5844018@devilsplayground.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010920082723.00a687f0@imap.devilsplayground.ne t> At 05:45 AM 9/18/2001 -0400, you wrote: > > Nope, PCAnywhere advertises that it's running. I loaded it up on my cable > > modem, and immediately saw a couple people in my node running PCAnywhere, > > one without a password. Handy feature. > >Handy for who? A hacker? ;-) That's the last thing I want my system >to do. I don't want it to advertise its existence. I want it to >disappear. That's my point exactly. Handy, but not for the end user. >See my earlier post about *nix v. win software models. Exactly my >point; PCAnywhere is easier to use but a security risk; VNC is more >difficult to set up if you include the "properly configured DNS" >setup.... I guess I count properly configuring your network and DNS as part of the network design and OS install, not on any specific application. My mail server doesn't like operating without DNS either. ======================================================== Dave Warren, devilsplayground.net administrator Email: dave.warren@devilsplayground.net ======================================================== --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From adam.dershowitz1@jsc.nasa.gov Thu Sep 20 23:33:19 2001 From: adam.dershowitz1@jsc.nasa.gov (DERSHOWITZ, ADAM (JSC-DF) (USA)) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 22:33:19 +0000 Subject: Build Problems Message-ID: <81F639B56628D011A32D0020AFFC01900A89FC42@jsc-ems-mbs07.jsc. nasa.gov> I am trying to build Xvnc on an IBM ZX7 that is running SuSSE Linux. I was able to build the client just fine by just doing xmkmf then make World. However when I then tried to build Xvnc by doing "cd Xvnc", followed by "make World" I got some compile errors that I was not sure what to make of. If anyone has any suggestions I would greatly appreciate. The full compile info with the errors is listed below. I have not chagned anything in config/cs and would be happy to try any change that might help. Thanks, --Adam l003016:~/vnc/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc # make World Building Release 6.3 of the X Window System. I hope you checked the configuration parameters in ./config/cf to see if you need to pass BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS. Thu Sep 20 11:05:09 EDT 2001 cd ./config/imake && make -f Makefile.ini BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS="" clean make[1]: Entering directory `/root/vnc/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/config/imake' rm -f ccimake imake.o imake rm -f *.CKP *.ln *.BAK *.bak *.o core errs ,* *~ *.a tags TAGS make.log \#* rm -f -r Makefile.proto Makefile Makefile.dep bootstrap make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/vnc/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/config/imake' make Makefile.boot make[1]: Entering directory `/root/vnc/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc' cd ./config/imake && make -w -f Makefile.ini BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS="" make[2]: Entering directory `/root/vnc/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/config/imake' making imake with BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS= in config/imake cc -o ccimake -O -I../../include -I../../imports/x11/include/X11 ccimake.c cc -c -O -I../../include -I../../imports/x11/include/X11 `./ccimake` imake.c imake.c: In function `get_ld_version': imake.c:961: warning: comparison is always true due to limited range of data type cc -o imake -O -I../../include -I../../imports/x11/include/X11 imake.o make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/vnc/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/config/imake' rm -f ./config/makedepend/Makefile.proto ./config/imake/imake -I./config/cf -s ./config/makedepend/Makefile.proto -f ./config/makedepend/Imakefile -DTOPDIR=../.. -DCURDIR=./config/makedepend cd ./config/makedepend && rm -f -r Makefile Makefile.dep makedepend *.o bootstrap cd ./config/makedepend && make -f Makefile.proto bootstrap make[2]: Entering directory `/root/vnc/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/config/makedepend' make[2]: Nothing to be done for `bootstrap'. make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/vnc/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/config/makedepend' ./config/imake/imake -I./config/cf -s ./config/imake/Makefile.proto -f ./config/imake/Imakefile -DTOPDIR=../.. -DCURDIR=./config/imake cd ./config/imake && make -f Makefile.proto bootstrapdepend make[2]: Entering directory `/root/vnc/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/config/imake' make[2]: Nothing to be done for `bootstrapdepend'. make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/vnc/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/config/imake' cd ./config/imake && make -w -f Makefile.ini BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS="" bootstrap make[2]: Entering directory `/root/vnc/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/config/imake' + mkdir bootstrap mv *.o imake bootstrap make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/vnc/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/config/imake' cd ./config/imake && make -f Makefile.proto all make[2]: Entering directory `/root/vnc/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/config/imake' gcc -O -ansi -pedantic -I../../include -I../../exports/include/X11 -I../.. -I../../exports/include -Dlinux LinuxMachineDefines -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L -D_POSIX_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500L -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE -D_REENTRANT -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO -DCPP_PROGRAM="\"/lib/cpp\"" -c -o imake.o imake.c gcc: cannot specify -o with -c or -S and multiple compilations make[2]: *** [imake.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/vnc/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/config/imake' make[1]: *** [imake.bootstrap] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/vnc/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc' make: *** [World] Error 2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gbendotti@agric.wa.gov.au Fri Sep 21 01:15:06 2001 From: gbendotti@agric.wa.gov.au (Bendotti, Gerard) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 00:15:06 +0000 Subject: Logging on with the computer name Message-ID: <2BCD8A1EC385D311AE9B00062950091901F00B2D@agspsrv19.agric.wa .gov.au> Greg All I machines use have DHCP for Wins resolution, with DNS Enabled and the Host Name is the machine name (which CAN NOT be the same as a users log in) and it works fine (now, Host name = user was the problem I had) just by entering the machine/host name as the VNC Server: Hope this helps Gerard Bendotti Human Resources Systems Development Officer ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > -----Original Message----- > From: Gregory Bruce [SMTP:gbruce@qwest.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 11:00 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Logging on with the computer name > > Okay, I'm trying this question again. I tried on 8/30 with no response. > I assume it's because the answer is so simple. I can't believe that > none of you know the answer: > > I am very sorry if the answer to this question is a part of the archives > > somewhere. I have looked and can't find. I also apologize in advance for > > what may be an obvious answer to most of you. > We are starting to load VNC on WINNT4.0 SP6 servers. They are located > all over > the state. Our goal is to RAS into them and load VNC remotely. Our > problem is that, even if we load VNC locally, we have to enter the IP > address instead of the server name to log in at 'VNC Server:'. This > will become a problem when we go a step farther to the individual > workstations, through the server, because they are dynamic and the IP > could change. Where do > I tell VNC in the server to accept the computer name? It works at one > site but we can't see any difference in what was done to configure it. > What are we missing? Thanks. So far, VNC is great! > Greg > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From dgautheron@magic.fr Fri Sep 21 01:53:15 2001 From: dgautheron@magic.fr (didier) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 00:53:15 +0000 Subject: Build Problems References: <81F639B56628D011A32D0020AFFC01900A89FC42@jsc-ems-mbs07.jsc. nasa.gov> Message-ID: <3BAABC11.3046699A@magic.fr> "DERSHOWITZ, ADAM (JSC-DF) (USA)" wrote: > > I am trying to build Xvnc on an IBM ZX7 that is running SuSSE Linux. I was > able to build the client just fine by just doing xmkmf then make World. > However when I then tried to build Xvnc by doing "cd Xvnc", followed by > "make World" I got some compile errors that I was not sure what to make of. > > If anyone has any suggestions I would greatly appreciate. The full compile > info with the errors is listed below. > I have not chagned anything in config/cs and would be happy to try any > change that might help. > > Thanks, > > --Adam > > l003016:~/vnc/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc # make World > > Building Release 6.3 of the X Window System. > > I hope you checked the configuration parameters in ./config/cf > to see if you need to pass BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS. > > Thu Sep 20 11:05:09 EDT 2001 > > imake.c: In function `get_ld_version': > imake.c:961: warning: comparison is always true due to limited range of data May be a signed char - unsigned char pb, try BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS=-fsigned-char, but you're in trouble anyway because. > make[2]: Entering directory `/root/vnc/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/config/imake' > gcc -O -ansi -pedantic -I../../include -I../../exports/include/X11 -I../.. > -I../../exports/include -Dlinux LinuxMachineDefines ------------------- Pb here should be -Dsomething, xfree86 doesn't know about your arch. Try with something like this (from XFree86 4) in config/cf/linux.cf just before BEGIN ORL VNC modification # define LinuxMachineDefines -D__s390__ # define ServerOSDefines XFree86ServerOSDefines -DDDXTIME -DPART_NET # define ServerExtraDefines -DGCCUSESGAS XFree86ServerDefines Or #define LinuxMachineDefines -D__s390x__ #define ServerOSDefines XFree86ServerOSDefines -DDDXTIME -DPART_NET #define ServerExtraDefines -DGCCUSESGAS XFree86ServerDefines -D_XSERVER64 > -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L -D_POSIX_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500L -D_BSD_SOURCE > -D_SVID_SOURCE -D_REENTRANT -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO > -DCPP_PROGRAM="\"/lib/cpp\"" -c -o imake.o imake.c > gcc: cannot specify -o with -c or -S and multiple compilations > make[2]: *** [imake.o] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/vnc/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/config/imake' > make[1]: *** [imake.bootstrap] Error 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/vnc/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc' > make: *** [World] Error 2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ajv@greebo.net Fri Sep 21 03:07:27 2001 From: ajv@greebo.net (Andrew van der Stock) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 02:07:27 +0000 Subject: Win2k installation failures (was: RE: NT Service handling (wa s: bad review)) In-Reply-To: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04DFE@QMAIL> Message-ID: <002601c14239$254ce510$217da8c0@tinkywinky> If people stuck to doing things exactly as described in MSDN, there wouldn't be problems when MS upgrade the OS. It's been my experience over the last 7 or 8 years that well written programs rarely, if ever, break. The problem is that too many programs are not written well. Things that you do expect to break know far too much about the underlying substrate for comfort, such as virus protection, some device drivers, and so on. Andrew -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Mabbutt Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2001 22:33 To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: Win2k installation failures (was: RE: NT Service handling (wa s: bad review)) unfortunetally, MS's "latest" in general has a nasty habit of breaking things :( --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From weikun@caltech.edu Fri Sep 21 03:43:54 2001 From: weikun@caltech.edu (Kun Wei) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 02:43:54 +0000 Subject: 32bits colordepth java vnc viewer Message-ID: <01b601c1423e$5c154d30$1770d783@hepvrvs> Hello, I have modified the java vncviewer to support 8/32bits color depth. Can I add it to VNC add-on? Best Regards Kun Wei ________________________ MC 256-48, Caltech 91125 http://www.vrvs.org http://www.caltech.edu ________________________ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From wai.cheng.chan@intel.com Fri Sep 21 05:38:28 2001 From: wai.cheng.chan@intel.com (Chan, Wai Cheng) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 04:38:28 +0000 Subject: failed to run program on VNC Message-ID: <7ABF1A067982D511B3A600508BF22EB55A343D@pgsmsx104.png.intel. com> Hi this is the error which i received when i executed program on VNC. Please help! *WARNING* Atr: Failed to find 8-plane PseudoColor visual -wc --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From akira@sra.co.jp Fri Sep 21 08:15:21 2001 From: akira@sra.co.jp (Akira Hatakeyama) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 07:15:21 +0000 Subject: failed to run program on VNC In-Reply-To: <7ABF1A067982D511B3A600508BF22EB55A343D@pgsmsx104.png.intel . com>; from wai.cheng.chan@intel.com on Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 11:34:39AM +0800 References: <7ABF1A067982D511B3A600508BF22EB55A343D@pgsmsx104.png.intel. com> Message-ID: <20010921150758.B41705@sra.co.jp> Greetings. On Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 11:34:39AM +0800, Chan, Wai Cheng wrote: > Hi > this is the error which i received when i executed program on VNC. Please > help! > > *WARNING* Atr: Failed to find 8-plane PseudoColor visual add "-depth 8 -cc 3" options to vncserver. There's several 'visual's in normal X server, but there's only one 'visual' on Xvnc, depend on '-depth'. -- Akira Hatakeyama E-Mail: akira@sra.co.jp http://www.sra.co.jp/people/akira/index.html chigasaki-minami, tsuzuki ward, yokohama, japan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tobias.croby@notes.sema.se Fri Sep 21 10:13:18 2001 From: tobias.croby@notes.sema.se (tobias.croby@notes.sema.se) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 09:13:18 +0000 Subject: vnc-list-digest V1 #1280 Message-ID: >Okay, I'm trying this question again. I tried on 8/30 with no response. >I assume it's because the answer is so simple. I can't believe that >none of you know the answer: Ill try my best.. :-) >I am very sorry if the answer to this question is a part of the archives >somewhere. I have looked and can't find. I also apologize in advance for >what may be an obvious answer to most of you. >We are starting to load VNC on WINNT4.0 SP6 servers. They are located >all over >the state. Our goal is to RAS into them and load VNC remotely. Our >problem is that, even if we load VNC locally, we have to enter the IP >address instead of the server name to log in at 'VNC Server:'. This can be a problem with WINS(Windows Internet Naming System). If you have a WINS server running somewhere on the remote site, you can try specifying it in the RAS connection used to dial into the server. >This >will become a problem when we go a step farther to the individual >workstations, through the server, because they are dynamic and the IP >could change. Where do >I tell VNC in the server to accept the computer name? It works at one >site but we can't see any difference in what was done to configure it. If you dont have a WINS-server and dynamic IP-adresses - then you can be in trouble. The RAS-connection then needs to get hold of a current naming list from the master browser of the remote network, and that can be a problem if a WINS-server isnt present. >What are we missing? Thanks. So far, VNC is great! Greg I totally agree. VNC is great! //Tobias Croby ERP System Consultant Sema AB ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Sema AB Tel: +46 470 73 64 19 Box 3153 Fax: +46 470 73 64 40 S-350 43 Vdxjv Mobil: +46 708- 51 64 19 Sverige/Sweden E-mail: tobias.croby@sema.se Web: http://www.sema.se --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Ian_Phillipps@yahoo.co.uk Fri Sep 21 12:32:38 2001 From: Ian_Phillipps@yahoo.co.uk (Ian Phillipps) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 11:32:38 +0000 Subject: vncserver bug and patch Message-ID: <20010920170408.A13109@homer.diplex.co.uk> I've just upgraded my Linux and found that vncserver stopped working. The problem is that the "vncserver" perl script fails if the environment variable XAUTHORITY is set - it overrides the setting when running xauth and the X server, but fails to do this for the stuff in .vnc/xstartup. I ran into this when I ran vncserver from an ssh session with X forwarding turned on. My copy of ssh (OpenSSH_2.9p1, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090601f) sets XAUTHORITY to its own cookie file. The patch below cures the problem for me; it allows .vnc/xstartup to run but I can't think of a "general" solution for this case. Maybe a warning is appropriate if $ENV{XAUTHORITY} is found to be set, since this is going to cause confusion. My solution means an x client cannot be started from the command line after vncserver, without overriding the ENV variable. Allowing the setting of XAUTHORITY to stand doesn't work either; I don't suppose that (to take my present case) /tmp/ssh-XX3RIPvB/cookies will remain after my ssh session finishes. BTW, the lack of permissions on /tmp/.X11-unix bit me on Slackware 8.0 Ian *** vncserver.orig Thu Oct 26 16:16:37 2000 --- vncserver Thu Sep 20 16:40:18 2001 *************** *** 39,42 **** --- 39,43 ---- $vncUserDir = "$ENV{HOME}/.vnc"; $xauthorityFile = "$ENV{HOME}/.Xauthority"; + $ENV{XAUTHORITY} = $xauthorityFile; $defaultXStartup -- I am confident this explanation will dispell any feelings of certainty that may have been troubling you. - BWHOLMES@SJSUVM1.sjsu.edu (Cabbage) in <9601221753.AA27669@spock> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From joe_brown@senet-int.com Fri Sep 21 18:26:31 2001 From: joe_brown@senet-int.com (Joe Brown) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 17:26:31 +0000 Subject: AuthRequired not working Message-ID: <009f01c142b8$a33c7ab0$3c05a8c0@senetelite> Hello all, I'm running WinVNC v3.3.3R9 on W2K server with IIS 5.0 on a LAN in a test environment. There is no data on the server and I wish to allow null connections. Here is the registry value I entered under the WinVNC3 key. [HKLM\Software\ORL\WinVNC3] AuthRequired:REG_DWORD:0 I've rebooted the server and each time I attempt to connect, it continues to ask for a password. Any ideas? I have gotten AuthHosts to work just fine. Thanks. Joe Brown joe_brown@senet-int.com 703-206-9383 SeNet International Delivering Practical e-Security Solutions http://www.senet-int.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sean@sliq.com Fri Sep 21 18:32:00 2001 From: sean@sliq.com (Sean Hurlburt) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 17:32:00 +0000 Subject: instead of using a KVM switch box.. suggestions Message-ID: Hi All, this is slightly off topic.. I recently acquired a 6 port KVM switch box in order to manage my LAN, (windows 2000 server, professional, and 95). I thought it would be simple- 3 servers 1 monitor, I keyboard, 1 mouse, hub, cat 5s- piece of cake. Once I set it up it worked seamlessly with one major glitch, the KVM ruined to resolution of my monitor, if I continue working with the current resolution I will go blind. I need to work around this, Here is a method I thought of but I am running into an obstacle or 2. Here is my question: How does one configure 2 of the servers to work without a keyboard, mouse, monitor via VNC. Short of booting them with KB, monitor, and mouse and then unplugging them and relying on the network, is there something in the boot process that can be done in order for the 2 servers to work without the KB, monitor, and mouse being physically present. has any one had a similar experience? any help is greatly appreciated! Sean --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From floyd@neospire.net Fri Sep 21 18:49:45 2001 From: floyd@neospire.net (Floyd Russell) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 17:49:45 +0000 Subject: instead of using a KVM switch box.. suggestions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: First of all what resolution are you running? If it is higher than 800x600 then did you buy the special shielded video cables or just the cheapo kind? The cheapo kind doesn't like the high res and so it makes your screen go whacky. Second, what kind of servers are these that won't accept KB and mouse through VNC unless the machine boots with them plugged in? Floyd R. |> -----Original Message----- |> From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com |> [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Sean Hurlburt |> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 11:29 AM |> To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com |> Subject: instead of using a KVM switch box.. suggestions |> |> |> Hi All, |> |> this is slightly off topic.. |> I recently acquired a 6 port KVM switch box in order to manage my LAN, |> (windows 2000 server, professional, and 95). |> I thought it would be simple- 3 servers 1 monitor, I keyboard, 1 |> mouse, hub, |> cat 5s- piece of cake. Once I set it up it worked seamlessly |> with one major |> glitch, the KVM ruined to resolution of my monitor, if I continue working |> with the current resolution I will go blind. |> I need to work around this, Here is a method I thought of but I |> am running |> into an obstacle or 2. |> |> Here is my question: |> How does one configure 2 of the servers to work without a |> keyboard, mouse, |> monitor via VNC. Short of booting them with KB, monitor, and |> mouse and then |> unplugging them and relying on the network, is there something |> in the boot |> process that can be done in order for the 2 servers to work |> without the KB, |> monitor, and mouse being physically present. |> |> has any one had a similar experience? |> any help is greatly appreciated! |> |> Sean |> --------------------------------------------------------------------- |> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: |> 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY |> See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html |> --------------------------------------------------------------------- |> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gary.stainburn@ringways.co.uk Fri Sep 21 19:09:56 2001 From: gary.stainburn@ringways.co.uk (Gary Stainburn) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 18:09:56 +0000 Subject: instead of using a KVM switch box.. suggestions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, what happens if you leave 2 of the boxes to the kvm switch, and not have a keyboard/mouse connected to that? That should sort out your boot problem, while leaving the remaining PC to drive your monitor properly. Then you can simply VNC to the other 2 boxes as normal. Gary On Friday 21 September 2001 5:28 pm, Sean Hurlburt wrote: > Hi All, > > this is slightly off topic.. > I recently acquired a 6 port KVM switch box in order to manage my LAN, > (windows 2000 server, professional, and 95). > I thought it would be simple- 3 servers 1 monitor, I keyboard, 1 mouse, > hub, cat 5s- piece of cake. Once I set it up it worked seamlessly with one > major glitch, the KVM ruined to resolution of my monitor, if I continue > working with the current resolution I will go blind. > I need to work around this, Here is a method I thought of but I am running > into an obstacle or 2. > > Here is my question: > How does one configure 2 of the servers to work without a keyboard, mouse, > monitor via VNC. Short of booting them with KB, monitor, and mouse and > then unplugging them and relying on the network, is there something in the > boot process that can be done in order for the 2 servers to work without > the KB, monitor, and mouse being physically present. > > has any one had a similar experience? > any help is greatly appreciated! > > Sean > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Gary Stainburn This email does not contain private or confidential material as it may be snooped on by interested government parties for unknown and undisclosed purposes - Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, 2000 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Fri Sep 21 19:15:51 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 18:15:51 +0000 Subject: instead of using a KVM switch box.. suggestions Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04E0A@QMAIL> I don't think Win* like to run without a KB or mouse - some BIOSes do support no-KB configs, but I don't know if the OSes will. I know 95 craps out daily if run it without KB or mouse with no BIOS changes - I've tried it. -----Original Message----- From: Sean Hurlburt [mailto:sean@sliq.com] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 12:29 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: instead of using a KVM switch box.. suggestions Hi All, this is slightly off topic.. I recently acquired a 6 port KVM switch box in order to manage my LAN, (windows 2000 server, professional, and 95). I thought it would be simple- 3 servers 1 monitor, I keyboard, 1 mouse, hub, cat 5s- piece of cake. Once I set it up it worked seamlessly with one major glitch, the KVM ruined to resolution of my monitor, if I continue working with the current resolution I will go blind. I need to work around this, Here is a method I thought of but I am running into an obstacle or 2. Here is my question: How does one configure 2 of the servers to work without a keyboard, mouse, monitor via VNC. Short of booting them with KB, monitor, and mouse and then unplugging them and relying on the network, is there something in the boot process that can be done in order for the 2 servers to work without the KB, monitor, and mouse being physically present. has any one had a similar experience? any help is greatly appreciated! Sean --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sean@sliq.com Fri Sep 21 19:15:54 2001 From: sean@sliq.com (Sean Hurlburt) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 18:15:54 +0000 Subject: instead of using a KVM switch box.. suggestions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I tried every resolution setting, the pixels are distorting any way it's set. Yes, the cables are the cheapos, the servers- p66, 133, p3 333, p3 933(this one has the mon, mouse + kb) -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Floyd Russell Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 12:46 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: instead of using a KVM switch box.. suggestions First of all what resolution are you running? If it is higher than 800x600 then did you buy the special shielded video cables or just the cheapo kind? The cheapo kind doesn't like the high res and so it makes your screen go whacky. Second, what kind of servers are these that won't accept KB and mouse through VNC unless the machine boots with them plugged in? Floyd R. |> -----Original Message----- |> From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com |> [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Sean Hurlburt |> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 11:29 AM |> To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com |> Subject: instead of using a KVM switch box.. suggestions |> |> |> Hi All, |> |> this is slightly off topic.. |> I recently acquired a 6 port KVM switch box in order to manage my LAN, |> (windows 2000 server, professional, and 95). |> I thought it would be simple- 3 servers 1 monitor, I keyboard, 1 |> mouse, hub, |> cat 5s- piece of cake. Once I set it up it worked seamlessly |> with one major |> glitch, the KVM ruined to resolution of my monitor, if I continue working |> with the current resolution I will go blind. |> I need to work around this, Here is a method I thought of but I |> am running |> into an obstacle or 2. |> |> Here is my question: |> How does one configure 2 of the servers to work without a |> keyboard, mouse, |> monitor via VNC. Short of booting them with KB, monitor, and |> mouse and then |> unplugging them and relying on the network, is there something |> in the boot |> process that can be done in order for the 2 servers to work |> without the KB, |> monitor, and mouse being physically present. |> |> has any one had a similar experience? |> any help is greatly appreciated! |> |> Sean |> --------------------------------------------------------------------- |> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: |> 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY |> See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html |> --------------------------------------------------------------------- |> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From floyd@neospire.net Fri Sep 21 19:58:11 2001 From: floyd@neospire.net (Floyd Russell) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 18:58:11 +0000 Subject: instead of using a KVM switch box.. suggestions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sean you're gonna have to give more info than that :) What O/S? What kind of motherboard? What resolution(s) cause the distortion? I can almost promise 100% that better cables will solve the resolution problem.. of course to be sure what kind of KVM make/model/etc? Glad to help, but I need more details Floyd R. |> -----Original Message----- |> From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com |> [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Sean Hurlburt |> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 12:12 PM |> To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com |> Subject: RE: instead of using a KVM switch box.. suggestions |> |> |> I tried every resolution setting, the pixels are distorting any way it's |> set. |> Yes, the cables are the cheapos, the servers- p66, 133, p3 333, |> p3 933(this |> one has the mon, mouse + kb) |> |> -----Original Message----- |> From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com |> [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Floyd Russell |> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 12:46 PM |> To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com |> Subject: RE: instead of using a KVM switch box.. suggestions |> |> |> First of all what resolution are you running? If it is higher |> than 800x600 |> then |> did you buy the special shielded video cables or just the cheapo |> kind? The |> cheapo kind doesn't like the high res and so it makes your |> screen go whacky. |> Second, what kind of servers are these that won't accept KB and mouse |> through |> VNC unless the machine boots with them plugged in? |> Floyd R. |> |> |> -----Original Message----- |> |> From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com |> |> [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Sean Hurlburt |> |> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 11:29 AM |> |> To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com |> |> Subject: instead of using a KVM switch box.. suggestions |> |> |> |> |> |> Hi All, |> |> |> |> this is slightly off topic.. |> |> I recently acquired a 6 port KVM switch box in order to manage my LAN, |> |> (windows 2000 server, professional, and 95). |> |> I thought it would be simple- 3 servers 1 monitor, I keyboard, 1 |> |> mouse, hub, |> |> cat 5s- piece of cake. Once I set it up it worked seamlessly |> |> with one major |> |> glitch, the KVM ruined to resolution of my monitor, if I |> continue working |> |> with the current resolution I will go blind. |> |> I need to work around this, Here is a method I thought of but I |> |> am running |> |> into an obstacle or 2. |> |> |> |> Here is my question: |> |> How does one configure 2 of the servers to work without a |> |> keyboard, mouse, |> |> monitor via VNC. Short of booting them with KB, monitor, and |> |> mouse and then |> |> unplugging them and relying on the network, is there something |> |> in the boot |> |> process that can be done in order for the 2 servers to work |> |> without the KB, |> |> monitor, and mouse being physically present. |> |> |> |> has any one had a similar experience? |> |> any help is greatly appreciated! |> |> |> |> Sean |> |> --------------------------------------------------------------------- |> |> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: |> |> 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY |> |> See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html |> |> --------------------------------------------------------------------- |> |> |> --------------------------------------------------------------------- |> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: |> 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY |> See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html |> --------------------------------------------------------------------- |> --------------------------------------------------------------------- |> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: |> 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY |> See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html |> --------------------------------------------------------------------- |> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From mgrober@AHFC.STATE.AK.US Fri Sep 21 21:15:57 2001 From: mgrober@AHFC.STATE.AK.US (Marc Grober) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 20:15:57 +0000 Subject: params list of java applet References: <3B4C07C7.A0FF3748@ercom.fr> Message-ID: <0ac0cb9346d0e5328680f67b990b933e3bab9036@ahfc.state.ak.us> I posted this some time ago but not sure whether it made it and whether its in the archives and don;t have the time right now to look but it might be helpful. Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de wrote: > Does anybody out there know off hand or know where to find the > list and values for ************************************************** Some xtra info that might help with Eric's suggestions........... 1. You DO have to make sure that the java code is available through the web server (i.e. the classes have to be accessible in the same directory as the web page or you need to provide a codebase tage for the applet that points to a URL with the classes in it.) 2. AT least from aix using netscape you should provide HEIGHT and WIDTH for the java client in the window (getting half a CDE window is typical of this). I believe that these fileds are technically required, though you may be able to get somewhere without them. This can get complex but you can fiddle it out if you hang in there. some title

Java VNCViewer at http://webserver/unix/800x600x24.html

This page would put the web page with the embedded applet in one place
but keep the java code in another You can also embed the java, like so for explorer - code base here is for something different since its an M$ client (more info is available at an older article found at http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-06-1999/jw-06-plugin-2.html ) I think the non-embedded version is much quicker............ some title

Java VNCViewer

--------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From msuresh_2001@yahoo.com Fri Sep 21 21:57:02 2001 From: msuresh_2001@yahoo.com (Suresh Mahalingam) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 20:57:02 +0000 Subject: How Close can XVNC get to WinVNC Message-ID: <3BAB9A4E.56ED53AE@yahoo.com> Hi, I have recently started using VNC and have been trying to make VNC on solaris/CDE similiar to WinVNC so that I can remotely work on the existing screen display rather than having a separate one for VNC. I have had reasonable success with the following approach I got from the vnc-list archives of running the working XSession through a shared vncserver: 1. Change the last line of xstartup in ~/.vnc: #twm & Xsession vncserver -kill :1 2. Delete all startup commands from ~/.xinitrc and replace with vncviewer :1 -passwd ~/.vnc/passwd -fullscreen 2>/dev/null I had to add 2>/dev/null because otherwise the vncserver startup message was showing on the console. 3. Create a script startvnc containing the command: vncserver -geometry 1280x1024 -depth 8 -cc 3 -dpi 90 -fp \ tcp/localhost:7100 -alwaysshared -nolisten local I got 1280x1024 by running xdypinfo. I know this command can be added to the .xinitrc followed by sleep 10. 4. Turn off dtlogin autostart by running dtconfig -d as root and rebooting the machine. 5. Login onto console, run startvnc followed by xinit The above gives good results except for the following defects: 1. There is some drop in the color quality though it improved after adding -cc option. increasing depth to 16/24 makes things worse. 2. When I start programs like netscape I get the warning: Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for "gray77" for different colors like SeaGreen, Brown, SlateBlue etc. 3. I get console messages on the screen which do not clear with doing a Refresh. I do not see them with a normal CDE display. 4. Auto blank screen does not work properly. I was getting a dark and shaking shadow of the oringinal screen which came to the regular screen on moving the mouse. 5. Auto lock screen after inactivity does not work. Is this the best I can get? I know there is a way to make dtlogin come up using vncviewer. Will that fix some of the above problems? I would rather not make too many config changes as root. Here the only change I made was running dtconfig -d which can be restored by dtconfig -e. I know that x0rfbserver works on the running XServer rather than create its own XServer. But I do not think there is a version for Solaris. Thanks, Suresh. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From kfh@mqsoftware.com Fri Sep 21 22:49:49 2001 From: kfh@mqsoftware.com (Kelly F. Hickel) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 21:49:49 +0000 Subject: Weird collors with -depth 16 Message-ID: <31222C0CFBFA864BAD4B4DE81F4EDC904B27@mailserver2000.mqsoftw are.com> I've got TridiaVNC 1.4 on a linux RedHat 7.1 box. I'm trying to use an app that seems to require 16 bits of depth (at least it crashes at 8 bits), when I do vncserver -depth 16, everything seems to work, but the colors are strange. The desktop icons and the window frames, it looks like some kind of skewed color map or something. Does anyone have any ideas? -Kelly --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From roberto2522000@yahoo.com Sat Sep 22 02:46:56 2001 From: roberto2522000@yahoo.com (Roberto Lorica) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 01:46:56 +0000 Subject: VNC over Real ??? Message-ID: <20010922004004.59245.qmail@web20801.mail.yahoo.com> Someone told me about a service called VocaLoca (looks like a broadcast site to me) that claims to do VNC over RealMedia - anyone know more on what/how??? -- Roberto __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From schwartz@aaps.k12.mi.us Sat Sep 22 14:26:09 2001 From: schwartz@aaps.k12.mi.us (Ed Schwartz) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 13:26:09 +0000 Subject: FW: Another new user Message-ID: Have used VNC at home over local lan with my Mac powerbook (OS9.1) and 2 other PC's (Win98 2nd ed). Also have cable modem to the outside world at home. When I tried to connect from work on the same powerbook (through a firewall, going out shouldn't? be a problem), I get a t-disconnect error. Am able to FTP to my machine at home, so I know IP configurations are correct. I've looked through archives, etc, only thing I found was a possible Open Transport issue, so I did make sure it was always available. Any other suggestions? Would adding a registry key on the VNC server machine (Querytimeout) help? If so, exactly how do I do that? Thanks for any help. Ed Schwartz --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From kfh@mqsoftware.com Sat Sep 22 17:15:34 2001 From: kfh@mqsoftware.com (Kelly F. Hickel) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 16:15:34 +0000 Subject: Weird collors with -depth 16 Message-ID: <31222C0CFBFA864BAD4B4DE81F4EDC904B2D@mailserver2000.mqsoftw are.com> Just as a followup, if I run it on the console screen (32 bits) everything is fine, 32 bits on vnc and all the icons are black. The color problems appear whether this particular app is running or not, when the depth is greater than 8. -Kell -----Original Message----- From: Kelly F. Hickel Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:44 PM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: Weird collors with -depth 16 I've got TridiaVNC 1.4 on a linux RedHat 7.1 box. I'm trying to use an app that seems to require 16 bits of depth (at least it crashes at 8 bits), when I do vncserver -depth 16, everything seems to work, but the colors are strange. The desktop icons and the window frames, it looks like some kind of skewed color map or something. Does anyone have any ideas? -Kelly --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jnw22@cam.ac.uk Sat Sep 22 17:21:23 2001 From: jnw22@cam.ac.uk (James ''Wez'' Weatherall) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 16:21:23 +0000 Subject: vnc-list-digest V1 #1281 References: Message-ID: <003f01c14379$e5de9d00$1062a981@eng.cam.ac.uk> > Hello all, > > I'm running WinVNC v3.3.3R9 on W2K server with IIS 5.0 on a LAN in a test > environment. There is no data on the server and I wish to allow null > connections. Here is the registry value I entered under the WinVNC3 key. > > [HKLM\Software\ORL\WinVNC3] > > AuthRequired:REG_DWORD:0 > > I've rebooted the server and each time I attempt to connect, it continues to > ask for a password. Any ideas? This is probably a case where the documentation isn't necessarily very clear. AuthRequired causes WinVNC to *allow* an empty password. It doesn't stop WinVNC from requesting a password. To do that, you must clear the password in the Properties dialog. By default, with AuthRequired set to 1, WinVNC will not allow an empty password, since it could prove a dangerous security hole for novice users. So, set AuthRequired=0 AND clear the password! Cheers, James Weatherall --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ccah@thegreen.co.uk Sun Sep 23 04:20:00 2001 From: ccah@thegreen.co.uk (Ceri Hankey) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 03:20:00 +0000 Subject: instead of using a KVM switch box.. suggestions References: Message-ID: <000601c143d3$505c9610$6764a8c0@ceri4> I have two systems sharing one screen and one of the systems no longer halts on 'No Keyboard found error' in the power-on diags (It is a Celeron based mother board). As result Windows 2000 boots up fine, BUT... when I get to log in (if I forget to swithc over to the W2K system during startup), I have NO KEB or MOUSE input on the system. Luckily VNC (started as a service) gives me KB and Mouse input and I can restart teh system without hitting the reset button! So... try disabling 'Halt on all errors' in your mother board's start-up diagnostic procedure in the BIOS) but FIRST ensure that your vncserver comes up on win2000 - dont know about win95/98! To do this hit, (or keep your finger on) the DEL or ESC key the instant you swicth on until the BIOS configuration screen comes on. On 850MHz cpu's you really have to keep the finger on the key - just hitting does not work! Good luck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Hurlburt" To: Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 6:28 PM Subject: instead of using a KVM switch box.. suggestions > Hi All, > > this is slightly off topic.. > I recently acquired a 6 port KVM switch box in order to manage my LAN, > (windows 2000 server, professional, and 95). > I thought it would be simple- 3 servers 1 monitor, I keyboard, 1 mouse, hub, > cat 5s- piece of cake. Once I set it up it worked seamlessly with one major > glitch, the KVM ruined to resolution of my monitor, if I continue working > with the current resolution I will go blind. > I need to work around this, Here is a method I thought of but I am running > into an obstacle or 2. > > Here is my question: > How does one configure 2 of the servers to work without a keyboard, mouse, > monitor via VNC. Short of booting them with KB, monitor, and mouse and then > unplugging them and relying on the network, is there something in the boot > process that can be done in order for the 2 servers to work without the KB, > monitor, and mouse being physically present. > > has any one had a similar experience? > any help is greatly appreciated! > > Sean > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From andyman@sesd.sk.ca Sun Sep 23 06:51:47 2001 From: andyman@sesd.sk.ca (Andrew MacKenzie) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 05:51:47 +0000 Subject: Red Hat Linux 7.1 Message-ID: I am wondering what kind of configuration would have to be setup on my Linux box so that I can view the GNOME desktop that comes up when the computer boots up (not a replica of it). I am very novice when it comes to Linux so any and all help is greatly appreciated. I know I saw this same topic not too long ago, but everything seemed confusing to me, so hopefully someone out there can make it nice nad simple. :) Thanks. Andrew --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From barnowl@uronramp.net Sun Sep 23 10:16:15 2001 From: barnowl@uronramp.net (Barn Owl) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 09:16:15 +0000 Subject: How Close can XVNC get to WinVNC References: <3BAB9A4E.56ED53AE@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3BAC45A7.154A2CFA@uronramp.net> Hate to be obtuse but what exactly are you trying to get it to do? Evan Suresh Mahalingam wrote: > > Hi, > > I have recently started using VNC and have been > trying to make VNC on solaris/CDE similiar to > WinVNC so that I can remotely work on the existing > screen display rather than having a separate one > for VNC. > > I have had reasonable success with the following > approach I got from the vnc-list archives of running > the working XSession through a shared vncserver: > > 1. Change the last line of xstartup in ~/.vnc: > > #twm & > Xsession > vncserver -kill :1 > > 2. Delete all startup commands from ~/.xinitrc and replace with > > vncviewer :1 -passwd ~/.vnc/passwd -fullscreen > 2>/dev/null > > I had to add 2>/dev/null because otherwise the vncserver startup > message was showing on the console. > > 3. Create a script startvnc containing the command: > > vncserver -geometry 1280x1024 -depth 8 -cc 3 -dpi 90 -fp \ > tcp/localhost:7100 -alwaysshared -nolisten local > > I got 1280x1024 by running xdypinfo. > > I know this command can be added to the .xinitrc followed > by sleep 10. > > 4. Turn off dtlogin autostart by running dtconfig -d > as root and rebooting the machine. > > 5. Login onto console, run startvnc followed by xinit > > The above gives good results except for the following > defects: > > 1. There is some drop in the color quality though it improved > after adding -cc option. increasing depth to 16/24 makes things > worse. > > 2. When I start programs like netscape I get the warning: > > Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for "gray77" > > for different colors like SeaGreen, Brown, SlateBlue etc. > > 3. I get console messages on the screen which do not clear > with doing a Refresh. I do not see them with a normal > CDE display. > > 4. Auto blank screen does not work properly. I was getting > a dark and shaking shadow of the oringinal screen which > came to the regular screen on moving the mouse. > > 5. Auto lock screen after inactivity does not work. > > Is this the best I can get? > > I know there is a way to make dtlogin come up using vncviewer. > Will that fix some of the above problems? I would rather not > make too many config changes as root. Here the only change I > made was running dtconfig -d which can be restored by dtconfig -e. > > I know that x0rfbserver works on the running XServer rather > than create its own XServer. But I do not think there is a version for > Solaris. > > Thanks, > Suresh. > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From barnowl@uronramp.net Sun Sep 23 10:22:10 2001 From: barnowl@uronramp.net (Barn Owl) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 09:22:10 +0000 Subject: Logging on with the computer name References: <3BAA047A.44E04D2B@qwest.com> Message-ID: <3BAC4716.F372E0F2@uronramp.net> Sound like a name lookup problem some where in the lan. How are you loading VNC REmotley? Do you mena teh viewer or the client? on NT you should just run it as a service to atart with. Evan Gregory Bruce wrote: > > Okay, I'm trying this question again. I tried on 8/30 with no response. > I assume it's because the answer is so simple. I can't believe that > none of you know the answer: > > I am very sorry if the answer to this question is a part of the archives > > somewhere. I have looked and can't find. I also apologize in advance for > > what may be an obvious answer to most of you. > We are starting to load VNC on WINNT4.0 SP6 servers. They are located > all over > the state. Our goal is to RAS into them and load VNC remotely. Our > problem is that, even if we load VNC locally, we have to enter the IP > address instead of the server name to log in at 'VNC Server:'. This > will become a problem when we go a step farther to the individual > workstations, through the server, because they are dynamic and the IP > could change. Where do > I tell VNC in the server to accept the computer name? It works at one > site but we can't see any difference in what was done to configure it. > What are we missing? Thanks. So far, VNC is great! > Greg > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmcc7@home.com Sun Sep 23 14:29:32 2001 From: gmcc7@home.com (G McCashin) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 13:29:32 +0000 Subject: vnc-list-digest V1 #1282 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20010923082332.007d9ec0@mail.rdc1.tn.home.com> The firewall at your work place certainly could be a problem. I maintain the one at my work place, and we do not arbitrarily open every port for outgoing traffic, but rather only specific ports that we need for machines/services and since you want results back from the VNC requests, those ports would have to allow traffic in through the fw as well. >Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 08:20:18 -0400 >From: "Ed Schwartz" >Subject: FW: Another new user > > Also have cable modem to the outside world at home. >When I tried to connect from work on the same powerbook (through a firewall, >going out shouldn't? be a problem), I get a t-disconnect error. Am able to >FTP to my machine at home, so I know IP confi George http://people.delphi.com/gmcc --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From extml@ndsoftware.net Sun Sep 23 16:22:12 2001 From: extml@ndsoftware.net (NDSoftware) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 15:22:12 +0000 Subject: Many questions Message-ID: <005c01c1443a$7a2e9670$0102010a@localnet.ndsoftware.net> Hello, 1- I have the VNC server under Linux and the VNC client under Window, how i can exchange data in clipboard ? 2- How i can see local screen with VNC like Pcanywhere ? I search to remplace Pcanywhere by VNC :=) Thanks --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From msuresh_2001@yahoo.com Sun Sep 23 18:13:34 2001 From: msuresh_2001@yahoo.com (Suresh Mahalingam) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 17:13:34 +0000 Subject: How Close can XVNC get to WinVNC In-Reply-To: <3BAC45A7.154A2CFA@uronramp.net> Message-ID: <20010923160833.67434.qmail@web12405.mail.yahoo.com> --- Barn Owl wrote: > Hate to be obtuse but what exactly are you trying to > get it to do? > > Evan I would like to remotely display the screen of my solaris work-station without causing any changes to the color or behavior of the existing screen display which is by CDE window manager except having to start the window manager manually. This is the behavior of WinVNC. On UNIX environments the XVnc server actss as a separate display independent of the existing screen display. The solution is to run Xvnc in shared mode so that many clients can view the same screen and to start vncclient instead of the window manager for the regular screen display of the machine. This works but affects the regular screen display which I have noted below. I was trying to get some fixes for the display problems through this mailing list. Suresh. > Suresh Mahalingam wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I have recently started using VNC and have been > > trying to make VNC on solaris/CDE similiar to > > WinVNC so that I can remotely work on the > existing > > screen display rather than having a separate one > > for VNC. > > > > I have had reasonable success with the following > > approach I got from the vnc-list archives of > running > > the working XSession through a shared vncserver: > > > > 1. Change the last line of xstartup in ~/.vnc: > > > > #twm & > > Xsession > > vncserver -kill :1 > > > > 2. Delete all startup commands from ~/.xinitrc and > replace with > > > > vncviewer :1 -passwd > ~/.vnc/passwd -fullscreen > > 2>/dev/null > > > > I had to add 2>/dev/null because otherwise the > vncserver startup > > message was showing on the console. > > > > 3. Create a script startvnc containing the > command: > > > > vncserver -geometry 1280x1024 -depth 8 -cc 3 -dpi > 90 -fp \ > > tcp/localhost:7100 -alwaysshared -nolisten local > > > > I got 1280x1024 by running xdypinfo. > > > > I know this command can be added to the .xinitrc > followed > > by sleep 10. > > > > 4. Turn off dtlogin autostart by running dtconfig > -d > > as root and rebooting the machine. > > > > 5. Login onto console, run startvnc followed by > xinit > > > > The above gives good results except for the > following > > defects: > > > > 1. There is some drop in the color quality though > it improved > > after adding -cc option. increasing depth to > 16/24 makes things > > worse. > > > > 2. When I start programs like netscape I get the > warning: > > > > Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for > "gray77" > > > > for different colors like SeaGreen, Brown, > SlateBlue etc. > > > > 3. I get console messages on the screen which do > not clear > > with doing a Refresh. I do not see them with a > normal > > CDE display. > > > > 4. Auto blank screen does not work properly. I was > getting > > a dark and shaking shadow of the oringinal > screen which > > came to the regular screen on moving the mouse. > > > > 5. Auto lock screen after inactivity does not > work. > > > > Is this the best I can get? > > > > I know there is a way to make dtlogin come up > using vncviewer. > > Will that fix some of the above problems? I would > rather not > > make too many config changes as root. Here the > only change I > > made was running dtconfig -d which can be restored > by dtconfig -e. > > > > I know that x0rfbserver works on the running > XServer rather > > than create its own XServer. But I do not think > there is a version for > > Solaris. > > > > Thanks, > > Suresh. > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com > with the line: > > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com > with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From clemens@bigfoot.com Sun Sep 23 19:02:40 2001 From: clemens@bigfoot.com (Clemens Resanka) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 18:02:40 +0000 Subject: german input locale Message-ID: Hi all, Can anyone reproduce the following problem? In Win2000 set the german input locale, connect to a linux vncserver, in any X-window enter a ^ (circumflex sign, you will have to press the key in the upper left key on the keyboard. richt beside the 1-key, above tab) On my machine the ^ appears twice. The US input locale for example does not have that problem. Does anyone know how to fix that. So far.. - Clemens - --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sczjd@yahoo.com Mon Sep 24 10:43:20 2001 From: sczjd@yahoo.com (SI Reasoning) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 09:43:20 +0000 Subject: linux fullscreen issues Message-ID: <20010924083000.13697.qmail@web9505.mail.yahoo.com> has anyone figured out how to get linux fullscreen to work properly with vnc? The current problems are: if start in fullscreen the keyboard functions in the local computer, not vnc. if F8 to fullscreen and a window pops up on local computer, the keyboard functions in local computer, not vnc if F8 to fullscreen and use keybindings used in window manager on local computer, the keyboard functions in local computer not vnc once the keyboard is caught by local computer, you still see vnc desktop in full screen, you just cannot use the keyboard there (including F8) and have to find way to kill vncviewer (not always easy for less experienced users) There either needs to be some keystroke on local computer that can send keyboard back to vnc (these can be set in many window managers by the admin or maybe create alt + sysrq + F8) -or- vnc needs to hold onto the keyboard and not let the local window manager reclaim it until F8 back to regular window mode/close. ===== SI Reasoning sczjd@yahoo.com "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Mon Sep 24 13:49:40 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 12:49:40 +0000 Subject: admittedly weird (?) setup Message-ID: Hi, I know, admit and confess that this is might be considered a weird setup but msybe someone can help anyhow: I'm using my own html VNC VIEWER This works perfectly and extremely fast as compared to anything else...... IF I run it with one single IP target, i.e the html and applet are on the same server as the effective target say 212.255.x.x BUT IF I want to have the html and applet seperated a different server - for which I have reason - (say 195.143.y.y) (there's also reason to use port 5800 not 5900 - it works!) to the actual target (212.255.x.x) I get the applet loaded fast as hell but then: com.ms.security SecurityExceptionEx[rfpProto.] Unable to check numeric address "212.255.x.x" (i.e actual target) What concerns me here is the the source and reason for "unable to check (?) numeric address.." I believe I've read somewhere in the archives that html/applet need noit necessarily sit on the same server after all. so what am I doing wrong? Anybody's got a hint? - Dietmar [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From chris.sowerby@fsecoman.com Mon Sep 24 14:21:06 2001 From: chris.sowerby@fsecoman.com (Chris Sowerby) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 13:21:06 +0000 Subject: pulling my hair out!! Message-ID: <84A9EC4B882CD411900F00D0B73E8F7615F9DF@FIRE_SERVER> OK Short and sweet Any suggestions welcome 12 win 98 PCs in a TCP/IP peer to peer network. All set up identically except one which is Win 98 English/Arabic. The English/Arabic PC will accept connections from all the other machines and they will all connect to each other. The English/Arabic PC cannot connect to any servers from its viewer, with the message Cannot connect to server. I can ping all the machines by IP address from the English/Arabic PC but IP address connections from its viewer fail with the same result. All the other PCs connect by computer name without problems. Stuck Chris Sowerby Visit us online at http://www.fsecoman.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From trandel@mweb.co.za Mon Sep 24 19:05:34 2001 From: trandel@mweb.co.za (Tony Randell) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 18:05:34 +0000 Subject: Cannot connect IE 5.5 after using vnc Message-ID: <001b01c1451a$12872ec0$60ed1ec4@oemcomputer> Hi, Am finding that after completing a session with VNC to a WIN98 vncserver that I have to reboot in order to be able to use Outlook or IE? Both apps fail to connect to the ISP servers? Regards Tony Randell --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From JCheng@ALPHA.CA Mon Sep 24 19:44:27 2001 From: JCheng@ALPHA.CA (Cheng, Joe) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 18:44:27 +0000 Subject: java.io.EOFException Error Message-ID: <914E0BC9440BD41195AA0050DA825E896C6D56@MAILBOX> Hi all, I start the VNC server app, then on my client workstation I could start my browser and point to it, start a session the first time no problem. Once I click on Disconnect it kicks me out of the session. When I go back in again, I get this java.io.EOFException error whenever I try to connect to a server the second time. What causes this to happen? Did I shut down my first session incorrectly? Your help is appreciated. Thanks, Joe Cheng B.Sc. MCP Systems Administrator Alpha Technologies Ltd. joe.cheng@alpha.ca 604 422 4463 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Mon Sep 24 20:12:54 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 19:12:54 +0000 Subject: java.io.EOFException Error In-Reply-To: <914E0BC9440BD41195AA0050DA825E896C6D56@MAILBOX> Message-ID: if you use the tightvnc java applet from the options try to set "Use COpyREct" to "yes" -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Cheng, Joe Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 7:40 PM To: VNC List (E-mail) Subject: java.io.EOFException Error Hi all, I start the VNC server app, then on my client workstation I could start my browser and point to it, start a session the first time no problem. Once I click on Disconnect it kicks me out of the session. When I go back in again, I get this java.io.EOFException error whenever I try to connect to a server the second time. What causes this to happen? Did I shut down my first session incorrectly? Your help is appreciated. Thanks, Joe Cheng B.Sc. MCP Systems Administrator Alpha Technologies Ltd. joe.cheng@alpha.ca 604 422 4463 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sbest@best.com Mon Sep 24 20:21:29 2001 From: sbest@best.com (Scott C. Best) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 19:21:29 +0000 Subject: FW: Another new user In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010924110012.E7044-100000@shell6.ba.best.com> Ed: Heya. As someone else has already suggested, this is likely a problem with the firewall at your workplace. As per some ICSA specifications which a lot of firewall vendors like to adhere to, allowing outgoing connections to any arbitrary service is a problem. Only a small handful are "allowed" by default: ftp, telnet, www, etc. My suggestion would be to change the port that your VNC service is running on. Ideally, you have a firewall behind your cable-modem, before the hub to your LAN. If so, you can probably setup that firewall to listen on port-80 (www), and send everything heard onwards to port 5900 on your VNC machine. Now you should be able to connect from work. Or, alternatively, you can setup VNC itself to listen to a port besides 5900. Check the email archives for the registry keys that need to be tweaked to make this happen. Caveat emptor: there's a ton of Windows boxes out there right now which are compromised with Microsoft-worms such as CodeRed, Nimda, etc. They propagate by attacking weaknesses in Microsoft web-servers, which of course listen on TCP port 80. So...if you run your VNC service to listen on that port, it'll respond to these connection attempts. That's *not* to say the worm will compromise your system via the VNC service (it absolutely will not), but it does mean that your machine will respond to each attempt, which may make a noticeable slowdown on your system. In short....find out what ports your workplace firewall allows out, and setup your VNC service to listen to one of them. Good luck! cheers, Scott > Have used VNC at home over local lan with my Mac powerbook (OS9.1) and 2 > other PC's (Win98 2nd ed). Also have cable modem to the outside world at > home. > When I tried to connect from work on the same powerbook (through a firewall, > going out shouldn't? be a problem), I get a t-disconnect error. Am able to > FTP to my machine at home, so I know IP configurations are correct. > I've looked through archives, etc, only thing I found was a possible Open > Transport issue, so I did make sure it was always available. > Any other suggestions? Would adding a registry key on the VNC server > machine (Querytimeout) help? If so, exactly how do I do that? > > Thanks for any help. > > > Ed Schwartz --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From JCheng@ALPHA.CA Mon Sep 24 20:32:46 2001 From: JCheng@ALPHA.CA (Cheng, Joe) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 19:32:46 +0000 Subject: java.io.EOFException Error Message-ID: <914E0BC9440BD41195AA0050DA825E896C6D60@MAILBOX> Hi Dietmar thanks for replying. By default it was already set to use Yes. I just tried to switch it to No, and now the password screen does not even come up now. Joe -----Original Message----- From: Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de [mailto:Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 11:13 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: java.io.EOFException Error if you use the tightvnc java applet from the options try to set "Use COpyREct" to "yes" -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Cheng, Joe Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 7:40 PM To: VNC List (E-mail) Subject: java.io.EOFException Error Hi all, I start the VNC server app, then on my client workstation I could start my browser and point to it, start a session the first time no problem. Once I click on Disconnect it kicks me out of the session. When I go back in again, I get this java.io.EOFException error whenever I try to connect to a server the second time. What causes this to happen? Did I shut down my first session incorrectly? Your help is appreciated. Thanks, Joe Cheng B.Sc. MCP Systems Administrator Alpha Technologies Ltd. joe.cheng@alpha.ca 604 422 4463 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Mon Sep 24 21:01:17 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 20:01:17 +0000 Subject: java.io.EOFException Error In-Reply-To: <914E0BC9440BD41195AA0050DA825E896C6D60@MAILBOX> Message-ID: Joe, I presume you are using your own html or whatever to start the applet. I'd suggest to start everything at the default. To my knowledge (not tried) this is achieved by not setting any params to the applet except for the HOST and PORT if necessary at all Dietmar -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Cheng, Joe Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 8:29 PM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: java.io.EOFException Error Hi Dietmar thanks for replying. By default it was already set to use Yes. I just tried to switch it to No, and now the password screen does not even come up now. Joe -----Original Message----- From: Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de [mailto:Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 11:13 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: java.io.EOFException Error if you use the tightvnc java applet from the options try to set "Use COpyREct" to "yes" -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Cheng, Joe Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 7:40 PM To: VNC List (E-mail) Subject: java.io.EOFException Error Hi all, I start the VNC server app, then on my client workstation I could start my browser and point to it, start a session the first time no problem. Once I click on Disconnect it kicks me out of the session. When I go back in again, I get this java.io.EOFException error whenever I try to connect to a server the second time. What causes this to happen? Did I shut down my first session incorrectly? Your help is appreciated. Thanks, Joe Cheng B.Sc. MCP Systems Administrator Alpha Technologies Ltd. joe.cheng@alpha.ca 604 422 4463 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From akuiling@home.nl Mon Sep 24 21:13:35 2001 From: akuiling@home.nl (Anouk Kuiling) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 20:13:35 +0000 Subject: WinVNC Service Message-ID: <004501c1452b$d0d959a0$b5a3ccd4@ensch1.ov.nl.home.com> I contacted a remote computer but did not get entrance. Client uses VNC 3.3.3r8. Server uses WinVNC Service 3.3.3r8 (Start -> Programms -> VNC -> Administrative Tools -> Install WinVNC Service) A question appears on the server, it asks for permission. But I cannot operate it from clientside. On the computer witch client appears a box with "Your connection has rejected". Can I shut off this permission-question, or auto-permit? Anouk. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From JCheng@ALPHA.CA Mon Sep 24 21:30:10 2001 From: JCheng@ALPHA.CA (Cheng, Joe) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 20:30:10 +0000 Subject: java.io.EOFException Error Message-ID: <914E0BC9440BD41195AA0050DA825E896C6D61@MAILBOX> Dietmar: Everything is default. It is a new installation. Thanks, Joe -----Original Message----- From: Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de [mailto:Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 12:00 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: java.io.EOFException Error Joe, I presume you are using your own html or whatever to start the applet. I'd suggest to start everything at the default. To my knowledge (not tried) this is achieved by not setting any params to the applet except for the HOST and PORT if necessary at all Dietmar -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Cheng, Joe Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 8:29 PM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: java.io.EOFException Error Hi Dietmar thanks for replying. By default it was already set to use Yes. I just tried to switch it to No, and now the password screen does not even come up now. Joe -----Original Message----- From: Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de [mailto:Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 11:13 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: java.io.EOFException Error if you use the tightvnc java applet from the options try to set "Use COpyREct" to "yes" -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Cheng, Joe Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 7:40 PM To: VNC List (E-mail) Subject: java.io.EOFException Error Hi all, I start the VNC server app, then on my client workstation I could start my browser and point to it, start a session the first time no problem. Once I click on Disconnect it kicks me out of the session. When I go back in again, I get this java.io.EOFException error whenever I try to connect to a server the second time. What causes this to happen? Did I shut down my first session incorrectly? Your help is appreciated. Thanks, Joe Cheng B.Sc. MCP Systems Administrator Alpha Technologies Ltd. joe.cheng@alpha.ca 604 422 4463 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Mon Sep 24 21:34:39 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 20:34:39 +0000 Subject: WinVNC Service In-Reply-To: <004501c1452b$d0d959a0$b5a3ccd4@ensch1.ov.nl.home.com> Message-ID: It appears to be likely that you have to set the server password first Start -> Programs -> VNC -> Administrative Tools -> Show default settings -> "PASSWORD" -> OK and use that same "PASSWORD" on the client side Dietmar -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Anouk Kuiling Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 9:05 PM To: vnc-list Subject: WinVNC Service I contacted a remote computer but did not get entrance. Client uses VNC 3.3.3r8. Server uses WinVNC Service 3.3.3r8 (Start -> Programms -> VNC -> Administrative Tools -> Install WinVNC Service) A question appears on the server, it asks for permission. But I cannot operate it from clientside. On the computer witch client appears a box with "Your connection has rejected". Can I shut off this permission-question, or auto-permit? Anouk. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Matt.Klett@kohler.com Mon Sep 24 22:59:51 2001 From: Matt.Klett@kohler.com (Klett Matthew) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 21:59:51 +0000 Subject: WinVNC Service Message-ID: <3D26E632F8CBD211BFCF0008C75AB28F06EE2052@kowiex04.kohlerco. com> Read the upgrade doc from 3.3.3r8 to 3.3.3r9 and see if it describes your problem. -----Original Message----- From: Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de [mailto:Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 2:35 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: WinVNC Service It appears to be likely that you have to set the server password first Start -> Programs -> VNC -> Administrative Tools -> Show default settings -> "PASSWORD" -> OK and use that same "PASSWORD" on the client side Dietmar -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Anouk Kuiling Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 9:05 PM To: vnc-list Subject: WinVNC Service I contacted a remote computer but did not get entrance. Client uses VNC 3.3.3r8. Server uses WinVNC Service 3.3.3r8 (Start -> Programms -> VNC -> Administrative Tools -> Install WinVNC Service) A question appears on the server, it asks for permission. But I cannot operate it from clientside. On the computer witch client appears a box with "Your connection has rejected". Can I shut off this permission-question, or auto-permit? Anouk. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From meyersb@starband.net Tue Sep 25 00:35:52 2001 From: meyersb@starband.net (MEYERS) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 23:35:52 +0000 Subject: Running Multiple WinVNC Services Message-ID: <9CD5927AB1C184048ADEC1C7CE41B32D@meyersb.starband.net> I would like to have 2 WinVNC Services running on 1 Windows NT Workstation. 1 service configured so that remote keyboard and mouse are disabled. And 1 where I have full control. Anyone know if this is possible? I found in the archives a hint that it might be possible (http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/archives/2001- 05/0165.html), but I was unable to find the thread the post mentions to see how to do this. Thanks for any info, Bradley --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From kredal@kredal.com Tue Sep 25 01:05:35 2001 From: kredal@kredal.com (Kredalgnomie) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 00:05:35 +0000 Subject: Another new user References: Message-ID: <00ee01c1454d$dcf7a4e0$0401a8c0@tcac.net> I have exactly the same problem. I have a feeling the firewall on the client end is being mean and stopping all connections over a certain port. Tonight I'm going to set up the server to watch for port 250 or so. Hopefully the firewall will let that pass! Josh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Schwartz" To: Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 7:20 AM Subject: FW: Another new user > Have used VNC at home over local lan with my Mac powerbook (OS9.1) and 2 > other PC's (Win98 2nd ed). Also have cable modem to the outside world at > home. > When I tried to connect from work on the same powerbook (through a firewall, > going out shouldn't? be a problem), I get a t-disconnect error. Am able to > FTP to my machine at home, so I know IP configurations are correct. > I've looked through archives, etc, only thing I found was a possible Open > Transport issue, so I did make sure it was always available. > Any other suggestions? Would adding a registry key on the VNC server > machine (Querytimeout) help? If so, exactly how do I do that? > > Thanks for any help. > > > Ed Schwartz > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From meyersb@starband.net Tue Sep 25 01:27:25 2001 From: meyersb@starband.net (MEYERS) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 00:27:25 +0000 Subject: Running Multiple WinVNC Services Message-ID: <52DB1930C8A4FD449AEF3DD3B7A46968@meyersb.starband.net> I would like to have 2 WinVNC Services running on 1 Windows NT Workstation. 1 service configured so that remote keyboard and mouse are disabled. And 1 where I have full control. Anyone know if this is possible? I found in the archives a hint that it might be possible (http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/archives/2001- 05/0165.html), but I was unable to find the thread the post mentions to see how to do this. Thanks for any info, Bradley --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From kredal@kredal.com Tue Sep 25 01:37:31 2001 From: kredal@kredal.com (Kredalgnomie) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 00:37:31 +0000 Subject: Another new user References: <00ee01c1454d$dcf7a4e0$0401a8c0@tcac.net> Message-ID: <018301c14552$c111f960$0401a8c0@tcac.net> Go in to the registry, and find the following entry: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ORL\WinVNC3 change the setting called PortNumber to 100 higher than you want it to be from the browser. If you want to connect on port 80, you would enter "180" in decimal. When you look in the option screen, it would be something really long like 4294961580. That means it worked! Your server is now listening on port 80 for the http connection, and 180 for the data. Hope this works for everyone with this problem! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nieltawee, Lake" To: Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 7:53 PM Subject: RE: WinVNC on port 80 - the solution > Thank you everyone for all the helps. Even though the answer was not really > work, but it give a hint. Since someone has done it before, there must be a > way. > > With David answer, I went into the registry and realized that the PortNumber > (in dec) is 5900), but I connect to it through :5800 from a browser. > Therefore, the program took the number and subtract it by 100. If I want > port 80, I must key in 180 (in dec.) into the registry. With the decimal > 180, it shows up with the number 4294961576 in the preference setting. I am > not sure what arithmetic calculation it us, but it works. > > Thank you so much, > > Lake N. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kredalgnomie" To: Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 6:08 PM Subject: Re: Another new user > I have exactly the same problem. I have a feeling the firewall on the > client end is being mean and stopping all connections over a certain port. > Tonight I'm going to set up the server to watch for port 250 or so. > Hopefully the firewall will let that pass! > > Josh > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ed Schwartz" > To: > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 7:20 AM > Subject: FW: Another new user > > > > Have used VNC at home over local lan with my Mac powerbook (OS9.1) and 2 > > other PC's (Win98 2nd ed). Also have cable modem to the outside world at > > home. > > When I tried to connect from work on the same powerbook (through a > firewall, > > going out shouldn't? be a problem), I get a t-disconnect error. Am able > to > > FTP to my machine at home, so I know IP configurations are correct. > > I've looked through archives, etc, only thing I found was a possible Open > > Transport issue, so I did make sure it was always available. > > Any other suggestions? Would adding a registry key on the VNC server > > machine (Querytimeout) help? If so, exactly how do I do that? > > > > Thanks for any help. > > > > > > Ed Schwartz > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Klaus.Aengenvoort@etask.de Tue Sep 25 08:56:43 2001 From: Klaus.Aengenvoort@etask.de (Klaus Aengenvoort) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 07:56:43 +0000 Subject: 80 and 443 Message-ID: Hello, i4m looking since a few weeks for more informations about how to change the VNC-Ports. We want to connect to a VNC-Server via corporate-proxy and over http and ssl (via java-Applet). Has somebody ever configured this constellation? Thanks for help Klaus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From getsome831@hotmail.com Tue Sep 25 09:28:09 2001 From: getsome831@hotmail.com (Gregg Waltz) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 08:28:09 +0000 Subject: No remote access? Message-ID: I don't have any problem connecting locally to either one of my machines (back and forth), but if i try to connect from work or some other domain i'm not able to connect. I am running behind a firewall (Netgear RT314) but i'm forwarding ports 5900 & 5901 to my local machines respectively, why do i keep coming up with the "Failed to Connect to Server" errors? What could be my problem(s) here? Thanks, -gregg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From r00t_access@hotmail.com Tue Sep 25 11:05:42 2001 From: r00t_access@hotmail.com (Bader Saher) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 10:05:42 +0000 Subject: WinVNC Password :( Message-ID: Hi All, One of my LAN users decode VNC Server password from registry using some hacking tools and he is playing around my LAN Pcs. I got a lot of problems with other users in my network. I think the solution of my problem is to FIX the password inside the VNC Server Itself. Can any one guide me how to change (FIX) the password with in VNC Server and Recompile my WinVNC Source code. I Install VisualC++ 6.0 and I try to hack the codebut I think your helps will cut my working time. Thanks in advanced. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Tue Sep 25 15:32:08 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 14:32:08 +0000 Subject: No remote access? Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04E19@QMAIL> Are you using the standard client or the java client (ie, in a web browser)? Are you using IP addresses to connect or host names?? What platform(s) are we talking about?? -----Original Message----- From: Gregg Waltz [mailto:getsome831@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 3:14 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: No remote access? I don't have any problem connecting locally to either one of my machines (back and forth), but if i try to connect from work or some other domain i'm not able to connect. I am running behind a firewall (Netgear RT314) but i'm forwarding ports 5900 & 5901 to my local machines respectively, why do i keep coming up with the "Failed to Connect to Server" errors? What could be my problem(s) here? Thanks, -gregg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Tue Sep 25 17:21:53 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 16:21:53 +0000 Subject: Running Multiple WinVNC Services In-Reply-To: <9CD5927AB1C184048ADEC1C7CE41B32D@meyersb.starband.net> Message-ID: <000701c145d5$07e6c780$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> Sure this can be done, But only with windows terminal server. All other windows 9x/me/nt/2k have only one desktop, and no virtual desktops. If you write a virtual desktop application, then you should be able to modify vnc for this. But winvnc was not built for this purpose. Const (tightvnc) is planning to release the view only option in the class files in a few days. This will allow you to write a web page with the view only option. Custom page for view only. normal page for remote access. Is the only solution I can see. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of MEYERS Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 6:31 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Running Multiple WinVNC Services I would like to have 2 WinVNC Services running on 1 Windows NT Workstation. 1 service configured so that remote keyboard and mouse are disabled. And 1 where I have full control. Anyone know if this is possible? I found in the archives a hint that it might be possible (http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/archives/2001- 05/0165.html), but I was unable to find the thread the post mentions to see how to do this. Thanks for any info, Bradley --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From const@ce.cctpu.edu.ru Tue Sep 25 17:24:13 2001 From: const@ce.cctpu.edu.ru (Const Kaplinsky) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 16:24:13 +0000 Subject: TightVNC 1.2.1 released Message-ID: Hello, TightVNC 1.2.1 has been released today. Here is a brief list of changes over 1.2.0: - Win32 server: added support for reverse connections on ports other than 5500, modified patch from Steve Kann. - Win32 viewer: added support for new command-line options: -noshared and -encoding XXX. - Bugfixes in Win32 viewer: changes in exception handling eliminate Borland C++ compilation problems causing application crashes on repetitive connections, notably in the listen mode. Also, now warning exceptions causing disconnects are reported to user, except for the case when a user has closed the viewer window. - Better packaging in Win32 version: self-installing package is available, vncviewer now shows correct icon image. - Unix vncviewer: Default tunneling command template has been changed, to allow tunneled connections to hosts where only loopback VNC connections are enabled. New -via command-line option provides enhanced tunneling functionality, now one can make vncviewer tunnel connections to a VNC host via third machine acting as a gateway. - Java viewer: Addition of new parameters PASSWORD, "Show Controls", and "View Only", modified patch from Steve Kann. New version is available from the usual place: http://www.tightvnc.com/ If you would like to be notified about new TightVNC releases right after they are available, you can easily do this by registering at the freshmeat.net site and choosing the link "Subscribe to new releases" at the TightVNC project page: http://freshmeat.net/projects/tightvnc/ I'd like to thank all people who reported bugs, contrubuted patches and ideas. -- With Best Wishes, Constantin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From const@ce.cctpu.edu.ru Tue Sep 25 17:24:21 2001 From: const@ce.cctpu.edu.ru (Const Kaplinsky) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 16:24:21 +0000 Subject: java.io.EOFException Error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, >>>>> "DFd" == Dietmar Friesch@isisconsulting de writes: DFd> if you use the tightvnc java applet from the options try to set DFd> "Use COpyREct" to "yes" Hmm, I don't think this setting is able to cause problems at startup. -- With Best Wishes, Constantin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From john.clegg@nailsea.net Tue Sep 25 20:07:57 2001 From: john.clegg@nailsea.net (John Clegg) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 19:07:57 +0000 Subject: Character mode windows giving trouble with VNC Commander Message-ID: <076E84E04C64D311B9F40080C8F3095920FEA5@MAPLE> I am using VNC Commander running on a Windows 2000 SP1 box. If I connect to an NT4SP6 box all is fine until I run a CMD prompt, then I find that keypresses are not transmitted to that window properly - it seems as if about 1 in 3 keypresses is successful. Everything works fine outside that window I experience exactly the same if I connect to a Linux box running vncserver to host a KDM screen - all is OK until I try and type into a text type box - eg a console window or a text based editor such as vi or GEdit. Once again, everything works fine in the proper X windows. Any ideas? John ********************************************** Any views expressed in this message are the sender's own, and do not represent the views of Nailsea Family Practice or Woodspring Healthcare Limited except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of one or both of those organisations. This e-mail should only be read by those persons to whom it is addressed. Accordingly, we disclaim all responsibility and accept no liability (including in negligence) for the consequences of any person other than the intended recipients acting, or refraining from acting, on such information. If you have received this e-mail in error, please accept our apologies and we simply request that you delete this document. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From John_Roland_Elliott@Hotmail.com Tue Sep 25 20:08:00 2001 From: John_Roland_Elliott@Hotmail.com (John Roland Elliott) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 19:08:00 +0000 Subject: No remote access? References: Message-ID: I don't have a solution for you but rather some questions which, if you can answer them, may help you get closer to a solution. 1) First, the easy one ... from the client at work, when you tell the viewer what to connect to, you are using the IP address of the WAN side of your home firewall, aren't you? (Not the address of the VNC server on your private network.) I'm guessing that the RT314 works the way my SMC Barricade and Linksys Router do, namely, it does NAT between a private network and a single public address. Since your home network is a private network, you can't get to it from your work. You have to talk to the public (WAN) side of your home firewall and let the firewall forward it to the VNC server on the private network. 2) Is it a problem with your home firewall or something else? - If you put a computer on the unprotected (WAN) side of the firewall, can it connect to the VNC server through the firewall? If so, the problem is not in your home firewall configuration / capabilities. - If you remove the firewall from the mix, i.e., put the VNC server unprotected on the net, can you connect to it from work? If so, your problem is in your home firewall. 3) Is a firewall at work blocking outbound connections on 5900? - If you change the VNC server to listen on port 80, e.g., can you get to it? Set the VNC server to use display number 4294961476 (sic ... that number is 2^32-5900+80) and when you bring up the viewer, tell it that the VNC server is "ip-address-of-firewall:4294961476". Don't forget to tell your firewall at home to redirect port 80 to the VNC server. Good luck, JRE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregg Waltz" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 3:14 AM Subject: No remote access? > I don't have any problem connecting locally to either one of my machines > (back and forth), but if i try to connect from work or some other domain i'm > not able to connect. I am running behind a firewall (Netgear RT314) but i'm > forwarding ports 5900 & 5901 to my local machines respectively, why do i > keep coming up with the "Failed to Connect to Server" errors? What could be > my problem(s) here? > > Thanks, > > -gregg > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From kelly@gravity.phys.psu.edu Tue Sep 25 20:18:43 2001 From: kelly@gravity.phys.psu.edu (Bernard Kelly) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 19:18:43 +0000 Subject: problems with ghostbview Message-ID: <3BB0C9B9.501124A@gravity.phys.psu.edu> I'm trying to open postscript files with ghostview on a Linux machine, working through Vnc for Windows.Ghostview launches OK, but displays the following error: "Error: Postscript interpreter failed in main window". The main window sidebar gives an accurate count of the pages in the document, but displays nothing. lpr from a console/terminal prints the document fine. Working through ssh from another Linux machine (instead of from a Windows machine through Vnc), ghostview displays fine, with no error messages. Any suggestions as to what's going wrong/how is should be fixed? thanks, Bernard Kelly --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jamesvnclist@tnjinfl.com Tue Sep 25 20:27:34 2001 From: jamesvnclist@tnjinfl.com (James Pifer) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 19:27:34 +0000 Subject: Autostart additional process Message-ID: <04c301c145ef$57933510$1d01a8c0@BugsBunny> I'm using the following script that I found on the mailing list archive for autostarting a VNC session for root. Is there a way for me to start an application in that session as well? How about a second xterm window? vnc_users="root" disp=1 for user in $vnc_users do echo -e "Starting VNC server for $user (display no. :$disp)...\c" vncstart="/usr/bin/vncserver :$disp -depth 16 -geometry 1024x768" vnc_cmd="su -l $user -c \"$vncstart\" >/dev/null" if eval $vnc_cmd; then echo "DONE" else echo "***VNC FAILED***" fi disp=$(( $disp + 1 )) done Thanks, James --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ajv@greebo.net Wed Sep 26 02:52:24 2001 From: ajv@greebo.net (Andrew van der Stock) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 01:52:24 +0000 Subject: WinVNC Password :( In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000501c14624$03de6cc0$217da8c0@tinkywinky> Bader, This is bad. The problem for you is that the registry permissions are too weak as well as the ability for any joe bloggs to decode the password. Did you know that you only need WinVNC's own source code and a compiler to reverse the password? Additionally, with a copy of WinVNC server, it is possible any user to create any password they like and stash it in the registry under NT 4.0 due to very poor registry permissions. This locks you out of your servers as well. The best bet in the short term is to: * On NT and Win2K hosts, change the permissions on HKLM\Software\ORL keys (and all sub-keys) to disallow "Everyone:Full Control". I suggest SYSTEM:Full Control, Administrators:Full Control and force that permission down the key. Remember you need regedt32 on those OS's: XP introduces a much better single regedit with right clicks & the works. * Change the password to something new - two distinct passwords: one for the access controlled hosts, and another for the hosts that lack access control (if any). * I suggest removing WinVNC from Win9x/Me hosts as they can never be secured. (LOCAL)SYSTEM is the service account for VNC, and Administrators should have the ability to change the password. The above should work. If you can code, the best long term bet is to help with the secure VNC project. I am getting closer to getting a final draft ready of the VNC RFB protocol 4.0, which enables the use of the vastly more secure SRP, rather than the reversible 3DES encrypted passwords of today. I am more than happy to have people help with the RFB 4.0 protocol drafts as it's a long slog to get _exactly_ right. I am coming off a long project in Sydney, and should be returning to Melbourne shortly, where my main machines are, and more to the point, this leaves me with far more time until the next project. http://securevnc.sourceforge.net Come by, and check it out. Andrew -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On Behalf Of Bader Saher Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2001 18:54 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: WinVNC Password :( Hi All, One of my LAN users decode VNC Server password from registry using some hacking tools and he is playing around my LAN Pcs. I got a lot of problems with other users in my network. I think the solution of my problem is to FIX the password inside the VNC Server Itself. Can any one guide me how to change (FIX) the password with in VNC Server and Recompile my WinVNC Source code. I Install VisualC++ 6.0 and I try to hack the codebut I think your helps will cut my working time. Thanks in advanced. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From foo.joungwee@toshiba.com.sg Wed Sep 26 04:15:25 2001 From: foo.joungwee@toshiba.com.sg (FOO JOUNG WEE) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 03:15:25 +0000 Subject: Changing negative port number to VNC server Message-ID: <48256AD3.000C1097.00@toshiba.com.sg> Hi. I want to use port 21 as the port for VNC server. But I am unable to change the port number to -5879. I can only key in positive port number. However at the VNC viewer, I'm able to change it to -5879 (5900 - 5879 = 21). I've serched the FAQ and documentation and couldn't find anything on this issue. Can anyone please help me? Thank you. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ajv@greebo.net Wed Sep 26 06:48:38 2001 From: ajv@greebo.net (Andrew van der Stock) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 05:48:38 +0000 Subject: Changing negative port number to VNC server In-Reply-To: <48256AD3.000C1097.00@toshiba.com.sg> Message-ID: <001901c14645$d1158220$217da8c0@tinkywinky> I think I know what you want to do. The trick is that the port number is internally represented an signed 32 bit number, so can be represented in a two's complement manner. Change the port number to the equivalent large decimal number. -5879 is FFFF E909 which is 4294961417 Andrew -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On Behalf Of FOO JOUNG WEE Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2001 12:12 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Changing negative port number to VNC server Hi. I want to use port 21 as the port for VNC server. But I am unable to change the port number to -5879. I can only key in positive port number. However at the VNC viewer, I'm able to change it to -5879 (5900 - 5879 = 21). I've serched the FAQ and documentation and couldn't find anything on this issue. Can anyone please help me? Thank you. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From foo.joungwee@toshiba.com.sg Wed Sep 26 09:44:56 2001 From: foo.joungwee@toshiba.com.sg (FOO JOUNG WEE) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 08:44:56 +0000 Subject: Changing negative port number to VNC server Message-ID: <48256AD3.002A6FA7.00@toshiba.com.sg> Hi Andrew, I did as you told, changing the port number to 4294961417. But VNC server can't seem to recognise this large number. After I clicked "Apply" & "OK", when I re-open the properties, the port number is reset back to zero. Do you know how to overcome this problem? Regards, Jon I think I know what you want to do. The trick is that the port number is internally represented an signed 32 bit number, so can be represented in a two's complement manner. Change the port number to the equivalent large decimal number. -5879 is FFFF E909 which is 4294961417 Andrew -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On Behalf Of FOO JOUNG WEE Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2001 12:12 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Changing negative port number to VNC server Hi. I want to use port 21 as the port for VNC server. But I am unable to change the port number to -5879. I can only key in positive port number. However at the VNC viewer, I'm able to change it to -5879 (5900 - 5879 = 21). I've serched the FAQ and documentation and couldn't find anything on this issue. Can anyone please help me? Thank you. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From kplloyd@lucent.com Wed Sep 26 11:12:06 2001 From: kplloyd@lucent.com (Kurt P Lloyd) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 10:12:06 +0000 Subject: only one viewer can control Message-ID: <3BB0BAE5.1C36F8B0@lucent.com> Hello, I have been using VNC, Solaris servers and clients. I run "vncserver", and then "vncviewer -shared mymachine:1", and my colleague at a different site (different VNC installation) also runs "vncviewer -shared mymachine:1". Both viewers are able to interact with the display great. However, if my colleague runs "vncserver" at his site then only the first of us to run "vncviewer -shared hismachine:1" can interact with the display. The second of us to run this same vncviewer command can only see what the other viewer is doing, but cannot interact with the display. Does anyone know why this could be and how it can be changed so that both of us can interact with his VNC server? -- -Kurt Lloyd, kplloyd@lucent.com, (978) 960-6276 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From rudi.de.vos@simac.be Wed Sep 26 12:27:47 2001 From: rudi.de.vos@simac.be (Rudi De Vos) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 11:27:47 +0000 Subject: Running Multiple WinVNC Services Message-ID: <3BB1AABB.61939816@simac.be> There is a way to do it also on other window versions. 1)using vnc for one application and not the full desktop. So when the apps don't overlap (on screen) you can send them to diff users. 2)When you have multiple video cards, you can also run the server on diff desktops (little change to code needed) Virtual desktops don't work ! Vnc need a framebuffer to capture the screen (bitblt). You need a virtual framebuffer (actual miniport driver) that use system memory instead of video-card mem. Then you could create virtual desktops on those virtual video-card, local invisable but remote visable with vnc. Cheers Rudi --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From John_Roland_Elliott@Hotmail.com Wed Sep 26 14:09:46 2001 From: John_Roland_Elliott@Hotmail.com (John Roland Elliott) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 13:09:46 +0000 Subject: Changing negative port number to VNC server References: <48256AD3.002A6FA7.00@toshiba.com.sg> Message-ID: First of all, the big number is right: 2^32 - 5900 + 21 = 4294961417 Second, to my surprise, the VNC server control panel would not accept it for me either; it behaved just like you said. Using regedit, you can enter the port number directly without any of the arithmetic. The keys/values you want are: [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ORL\WinVNC3] "AutoPortSelect"=dword:00000000 "PortNumber"=dword:00000015 The PortNumber value, 15, is hexadecimal for 21 which you can enter as 21 when you use regedit. As a sanity check, after you enter these, you will see that the VNC server properties show 4294961417 for the display number. Cheers, JRE ----- Original Message ----- From: "FOO JOUNG WEE" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 3:43 AM Subject: RE: Changing negative port number to VNC server > Hi Andrew, > > I did as you told, changing the port number to 4294961417. But VNC server can't > seem to recognise this large number. After I clicked "Apply" & "OK", when I > re-open the properties, the port number is reset back to zero. Do you know how > to overcome this problem? > > Regards, > Jon > > > I think I know what you want to do. The trick is that the port number is > internally represented an signed 32 bit number, so can be represented in > a two's complement manner. Change the port number to the equivalent > large decimal number. > > -5879 is FFFF E909 which is 4294961417 > > Andrew > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On Behalf Of FOO JOUNG WEE > Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2001 12:12 > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Changing negative port number to VNC server > > > Hi. I want to use port 21 as the port for VNC server. But I am unable to > change the port number to -5879. I can only key in positive port number. > However at the VNC viewer, I'm able to change it to -5879 (5900 - 5879 = > 21). I've serched the FAQ and documentation and couldn't find anything > on this issue. Can anyone please help me? Thank you. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Borut.Zidaric@imp-klima.si Wed Sep 26 14:46:55 2001 From: Borut.Zidaric@imp-klima.si (=?windows-1250?Q?Borut_Zidari=E8?=) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 13:46:55 +0000 Subject: has any1 seen vnc for nokia 9210? Message-ID: <50F818532699D511B9310090278D03840210@albatros.KLIMA> This could be great :-) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jamesvnclist@tnjinfl.com Wed Sep 26 15:24:40 2001 From: jamesvnclist@tnjinfl.com (James Pifer) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 14:24:40 +0000 Subject: Autostart additional process References: <04c301c145ef$57933510$1d01a8c0@BugsBunny> Message-ID: <00d101c1468e$1c1eb780$1d01a8c0@BugsBunny> Anyone have any ideas here? Is this possible? I want to have an additional process start in another xterm window on a vnc session that is already created. This way it's starts on boot (following the vnc session) and when I vnc to that session, it's already there and running. Thanks, James ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Pifer" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 2:24 PM Subject: Autostart additional process > I'm using the following script that I found on the mailing list archive for > autostarting a VNC session for root. Is there a way for me to start an > application in that session as well? How about a second xterm window? > > vnc_users="root" > disp=1 > for user in $vnc_users > do > echo -e "Starting VNC server for $user (display no. :$disp)...\c" > vncstart="/usr/bin/vncserver :$disp -depth 16 -geometry 1024x768" > vnc_cmd="su -l $user -c \"$vncstart\" >/dev/null" > > if eval $vnc_cmd; then > echo "DONE" > else > echo "***VNC FAILED***" > fi > > disp=$(( $disp + 1 )) > done > > Thanks, > James > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From twaugh@redhat.com Wed Sep 26 15:34:05 2001 From: twaugh@redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 14:34:05 +0000 Subject: TightVNC 1.2.1 released In-Reply-To: ; from const@ce.cctpu.edu.ru on Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 11:18:41PM +0800 References: Message-ID: <20010926142916.E10442@redhat.com> On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 11:18:41PM +0800, Const Kaplinsky wrote: > TightVNC 1.2.1 has been released today. Here is a brief list of > changes over 1.2.0: Hi Const, It doesn't patch cleanly against VNC 3.3.3r2 because you seem to have deleted files like ChangeLog and WhatsNew first. How exactly are you creating the patch? Thanks, Tim. */ [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From twaugh@redhat.com Wed Sep 26 15:51:28 2001 From: twaugh@redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 14:51:28 +0000 Subject: TightVNC 1.2.1 released In-Reply-To: <20010926142916.E10442@redhat.com>; from twaugh@redhat.com on Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 02:29:16PM +0100 References: <20010926142916.E10442@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20010926144645.F10442@redhat.com> On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 02:29:16PM +0100, Tim Waugh wrote: > It doesn't patch cleanly against VNC 3.3.3r2 because you seem to have > deleted files like ChangeLog and WhatsNew first. Mea culpa. I had unpacked the Java binaries before applying the patch, which no longer works for some reason. Tim. */ [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From egb@tonesoft.com Wed Sep 26 16:36:44 2001 From: egb@tonesoft.com (Edric Bulalacao) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 15:36:44 +0000 Subject: WinVNC Password :( In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You should be able to use Policy Editor on Windows 95/98 machines so that users can't access the registry...same way with NT/2000 machines...I believe it's called System Policy Editor on Win 2k/NT, not sure about Win ME and XP though. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From miroslav_luptak@hp.com Wed Sep 26 17:43:59 2001 From: miroslav_luptak@hp.com (LUPTAK,MIROSLAV (HP-Slovakia,ex1)) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 16:43:59 +0000 Subject: Autostart additional process Message-ID: <4F862BB3714BD41195FF00D0B747AC8904B8ADE4@ramus.gva.hp.com> Hi, James. Once the vncsession is started and you know the display number, you can run on that vnc session any X application if you first export the DISPLAY variable with correct value. In the script from James, this could be done by ..... if eval $vnc_cmd; then echo "DONE" else echo "***VNC FAILED***" fi # Run xterm on the vnc session on Linux su -l $user -c "DISPLAY=:$disp xterm &" # For HP-UX, use "-" instead of "-l" # su - $user -c "DISPLAY=:$disp xterm &" disp=$(( $disp + 1 )) ..... Regards, Miroslav Luptak > -----Original Message----- > From: James Pifer [mailto:jamesvnclist@tnjinfl.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 15:21 > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: Autostart additional process > > > Anyone have any ideas here? Is this possible? I want to have > an additional > process start in another xterm window on a vnc session that is already > created. This way it's starts on boot (following the vnc > session) and when I > vnc to that session, it's already there and running. > > Thanks, > James > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Pifer" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 2:24 PM > Subject: Autostart additional process > > > > I'm using the following script that I found on the mailing > list archive > for > > autostarting a VNC session for root. Is there a way for me > to start an > > application in that session as well? How about a second > xterm window? > > > > vnc_users="root" > > disp=1 > > for user in $vnc_users > > do > > echo -e "Starting VNC server for $user (display no. > :$disp)...\c" > > vncstart="/usr/bin/vncserver :$disp -depth 16 -geometry > 1024x768" > > vnc_cmd="su -l $user -c \"$vncstart\" >/dev/null" > > > > if eval $vnc_cmd; then > > echo "DONE" > > else > > echo "***VNC FAILED***" > > fi > > > > disp=$(( $disp + 1 )) > > done > > > > Thanks, > > James > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From adam.dershowitz1@jsc.nasa.gov Wed Sep 26 18:01:14 2001 From: adam.dershowitz1@jsc.nasa.gov (DERSHOWITZ, ADAM (JSC-DF) (USA)) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 17:01:14 +0000 Subject: Garbled IBM server Display Message-ID: <81F639B56628D011A32D0020AFFC01900A89FC5D@jsc-ems-mbs07.jsc. nasa.gov> First off, thanks to Didier, I am now able to build and run the server. But then when I try to connect to it from a Windows client the screen is garbled. I can open an xterm but all the characters are wrong (but the keyboard functions correctly). If I left click on the background the menu that pops up is readable, but "blurry". If I drag over the menu then things become more clear. So something is clearly very wrong. I have searched through the archives and have found that some others had a very similar problem, but I could not find the solution in the archives. Thanks, --Adam ps I tried the build with each of the suggestions that Didier made, with the same results described above. -----Original Message----- From: didier [mailto:dgautheron@magic.fr] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 11:03 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Build Problems "DERSHOWITZ, ADAM (JSC-DF) (USA)" wrote: > > I am trying to build Xvnc on an IBM ZX7 that is running SuSSE Linux. I was > able to build the client just fine by just doing xmkmf then make World. > However when I then tried to build Xvnc by doing "cd Xvnc", followed by > "make World" I got some compile errors that I was not sure what to make of. > > If anyone has any suggestions I would greatly appreciate. The full compile > info with the errors is listed below. > I have not chagned anything in config/cs and would be happy to try any > change that might help. > > Thanks, > > --Adam > > l003016:~/vnc/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc # make World > > Building Release 6.3 of the X Window System. > > I hope you checked the configuration parameters in ./config/cf > to see if you need to pass BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS. > > Thu Sep 20 11:05:09 EDT 2001 > > imake.c: In function `get_ld_version': > imake.c:961: warning: comparison is always true due to limited range of data May be a signed char - unsigned char pb, try BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS=-fsigned-char, but you're in trouble anyway because. > make[2]: Entering directory `/root/vnc/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/config/imake' > gcc -O -ansi -pedantic -I../../include -I../../exports/include/X11 -I../.. > -I../../exports/include -Dlinux LinuxMachineDefines ------------------- Pb here should be -Dsomething, xfree86 doesn't know about your arch. Try with something like this (from XFree86 4) in config/cf/linux.cf just before BEGIN ORL VNC modification # define LinuxMachineDefines -D__s390__ # define ServerOSDefines XFree86ServerOSDefines -DDDXTIME -DPART_NET # define ServerExtraDefines -DGCCUSESGAS XFree86ServerDefines Or #define LinuxMachineDefines -D__s390x__ #define ServerOSDefines XFree86ServerOSDefines -DDDXTIME -DPART_NET #define ServerExtraDefines -DGCCUSESGAS XFree86ServerDefines -D_XSERVER64 > -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L -D_POSIX_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500L -D_BSD_SOURCE > -D_SVID_SOURCE -D_REENTRANT -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO > -DCPP_PROGRAM="\"/lib/cpp\"" -c -o imake.o imake.c > gcc: cannot specify -o with -c or -S and multiple compilations > make[2]: *** [imake.o] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/vnc/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/config/imake' > make[1]: *** [imake.bootstrap] Error 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/vnc/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc' > make: *** [World] Error 2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jamesvnclist@tnjinfl.com Wed Sep 26 18:28:22 2001 From: jamesvnclist@tnjinfl.com (James Pifer) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 17:28:22 +0000 Subject: Autostart additional process References: <4F862BB3714BD41195FF00D0B747AC8904B8ADE4@ramus.gva.hp.com> Message-ID: <018001c146a7$a162e420$1d01a8c0@BugsBunny> Miroslav, That works great. Can you tell me if it can be taken a step further and run something in that xterm window? For example, run a shell script that loads a java program in that window? Or just load the java program directly? Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "LUPTAK,MIROSLAV (HP-Slovakia,ex1)" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 11:18 AM Subject: RE: Autostart additional process > Hi, James. > > Once the vncsession is started and you know the display number, you can run > on that vnc session any X application if you first export the DISPLAY > variable with correct value. > > In the script from James, this could be done by > ..... > if eval $vnc_cmd; then > echo "DONE" > else > echo "***VNC FAILED***" > fi > # Run xterm on the vnc session on Linux > su -l $user -c "DISPLAY=:$disp xterm &" > # For HP-UX, use "-" instead of "-l" > # su - $user -c "DISPLAY=:$disp xterm &" > disp=$(( $disp + 1 )) > ..... > > Regards, > > Miroslav Luptak > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: James Pifer [mailto:jamesvnclist@tnjinfl.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 15:21 > > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > Subject: Re: Autostart additional process > > > > > > Anyone have any ideas here? Is this possible? I want to have > > an additional > > process start in another xterm window on a vnc session that is already > > created. This way it's starts on boot (following the vnc > > session) and when I > > vnc to that session, it's already there and running. > > > > Thanks, > > James > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "James Pifer" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 2:24 PM > > Subject: Autostart additional process > > > > > > > I'm using the following script that I found on the mailing > > list archive > > for > > > autostarting a VNC session for root. Is there a way for me > > to start an > > > application in that session as well? How about a second > > xterm window? > > > > > > vnc_users="root" > > > disp=1 > > > for user in $vnc_users > > > do > > > echo -e "Starting VNC server for $user (display no. > > :$disp)...\c" > > > vncstart="/usr/bin/vncserver :$disp -depth 16 -geometry > > 1024x768" > > > vnc_cmd="su -l $user -c \"$vncstart\" >/dev/null" > > > > > > if eval $vnc_cmd; then > > > echo "DONE" > > > else > > > echo "***VNC FAILED***" > > > fi > > > > > > disp=$(( $disp + 1 )) > > > done > > > > > > Thanks, > > > James > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > > > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From const@ce.cctpu.edu.ru Wed Sep 26 19:04:26 2001 From: const@ce.cctpu.edu.ru (Const Kaplinsky) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 18:04:26 +0000 Subject: TightVNC 1.2.1 released In-Reply-To: <20010926144645.F10442@redhat.com> References: <20010926142916.E10442@redhat.com> <20010926144645.F10442@redhat.com> Message-ID: Hello Tim, >>>>> "TW" == Tim Waugh writes: >> It doesn't patch cleanly against VNC 3.3.3r2 because you seem to >> have deleted files like ChangeLog and WhatsNew first. TW> Mea culpa. I had unpacked the Java binaries before applying the TW> patch, which no longer works for some reason. It worked because WhatsNew (and maybe ChangeLog too) was missing in older versions of Java binaries archive. You might want to look at the spec file inside the src.rpm available from the www.tightvnc.com, it is mostly rpm from rawhide, but I had to resolve problems like this one there. By the way, I think it could be reasonable to append tight version number to the vnc rpm version in the Red Hat rpm, just to make clear that this is not the standard VNC distribution but a modified one, e.g. vnc-3.3.3r2+tight1.2.1-1.src.rpm ... -- With Best Wishes, Constantin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sean.chen@us.sema.com Wed Sep 26 19:24:22 2001 From: sean.chen@us.sema.com (Sean Chen) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 18:24:22 +0000 Subject: allowloopback Message-ID: i can't seem to get ssh tunnel work with VNC. want to see my home pc from work. running winvnc 3.3.3r9 server at home and client on work machine. home pc is win2k, work pc is win98. according to some articles in the mailing list and vnc doc on http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc, i set the registry key Allowloopback to 1 in [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3] (not the default). still the vnc viewer on work pc is rejecting the connect to the loopback address: localhost:1 (tunneling to home pc vnc server) the tunneling connection is good because telnet localhost 5901 connects and show "RFB 3.3...." on the other hand, the same set up work from home pc. i.e. i can tunnel vnc connection to work pc's vnc server with NO problem by connecting to localhost:1 on home pc. very strange. please enlighten. -- Sean Chen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From srvnfrm@hotmail.com Wed Sep 26 19:34:57 2001 From: srvnfrm@hotmail.com (srvnfrm .) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 18:34:57 +0000 Subject: Send Alert to target in VNCViewer Message-ID: Hi, I wish know how send an alert to target that I am connected. In the alert I want tell to client that we have connected to his machine and bla,bla,bla... Can VNCviewer do this? How? Can I restrict to user that he can4t close my connection? How? Thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Descargue GRATUITAMENTE MSN Explorer en http://explorer.msn.es/intl.asp --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From rudi.de.vos@skynet.be Thu Sep 27 00:00:36 2001 From: rudi.de.vos@skynet.be (De Vos Rudi) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 23:00:36 +0000 Subject: vncdrv video hook driver stable Message-ID: <3BB25167.F7FF096@skynet.be> First of all, thanks for the input and bugs reports. Installation ,uninstall instructions and info can be found http://services.simac.be/vnc/single/source/ README.html vncdrv1_10.zip (driver, winvnc src+bin) You have 2 winvnc servers in the zip file (winvnc and winvncfast) The fast only mean that updates are asked from the driver at 20ms interval. This is faster on good networks and high cpu's, but a lot of updates is slow on low bandwith and low cpu's. winvnc, updates vary from 25 to 250 ms (depends on the #updates) Needed: Can someone compare hookdll and video driver on low and high bandwith -%cpu -bandwith thanks Groeten Rudi --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Thu Sep 27 00:38:55 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 23:38:55 +0000 Subject: non-reg key winvnc server?? Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04E3A@QMAIL> Has anyone been working on a version of Winvnc server that doesn't require registry keys (ie, reads from text-based config files like most *nix apps)? Not a high priority, but it would be a great selling feature if users can use "one-off" support by running Winvnc off of a floppy in app mode, absolutely no install/setup required... Glenn --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From dhowarter@titan.com Thu Sep 27 01:54:43 2001 From: dhowarter@titan.com (Dave Howarter) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 00:54:43 +0000 Subject: VNC Cursor Keys Problem Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20010926164623.02f80948@mail.tisc.titan.com> I just started using VNC and it has a lot of advantages for the remote monitoring of computers that I need to do. However, I have one problem. With two of the programs that I am using, when I am running the Remote Viewer the cursor keys (Page-up, Page-down, up/down/left/right arrows) do not move the cursor in the window. With some programs they work but with others they do not. In all cases I am running inside a window, not maximized. The two programs that do not work for are: 1. I am using pcAnywhere on the VNC-server machine to connect via an RS-232 cable to a third computer that is running entirely under DOS. If I use pcAnywhere to access the VNC-server machine, I can then set up another pcAnywhere session on that machine and control a program on the third machine. However, if I use VNC to access the VNC-server machine and try to do the same, pcAnywhere starts up on the VNC-server machine and connects with the third machine, but the cursor keys on my remote computer do not cause the expected movement on the third machine. 2. The problem is similar if I run a Telnet session on the VNC-server machine. One third party Telnet program sets up, but the cursor keys don't move the cursor around on the telnet session. However, if I start Telnet from a DOS prompt, I get a different version of Telnet and then the cursor keys work. (One obvious solution is to start Telnet from DOS, but I still have problem #1 above which I don't have a work-around for.). Thanks for any advice you can give me. Dave Howarter Titan Wireless San Diego, Ca. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From getsome831@hotmail.com Thu Sep 27 04:18:43 2001 From: getsome831@hotmail.com (Gregg Waltz) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 03:18:43 +0000 Subject: No remote access? Message-ID: Using the standard client, and yes, when trying to connect remotely i was using my IP address, when connecting internally i was using host names, and i'm running win2k on both machines. thanks, -g Are you using the standard client or the java client (ie, in a web browser)? Are you using IP addresses to connect or host names?? What platform(s) are we talking about?? -----Original Message----- From: Gregg Waltz [mailto:getsome831@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 3:14 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: No remote access? I don't have any problem connecting locally to either one of my machines (back and forth), but if i try to connect from work or some other domain i'm not able to connect. I am running behind a firewall (Netgear RT314) but i'm forwarding ports 5900 & 5901 to my local machines respectively, why do i keep coming up with the "Failed to Connect to Server" errors? What could be my problem(s) here? Thanks, -gregg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From joe_brown@senet-int.com Thu Sep 27 16:08:39 2001 From: joe_brown@senet-int.com (Joe Brown) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 15:08:39 +0000 Subject: AuthRequired value not working??? Message-ID: <002f01c1475a$b2973fd0$3c05a8c0@senetelite> Hello all, I sent this about a week ago but, no one responded so I'm going to try it again. I'm running WinVNC v3.3.3R9 on W2K server with IIS 5.0 on a LAN in a test environment. I wish to allow null connections. Here is the registry value I entered under the following key. [HKLM\Software\ORL\WinVNC3] AuthRequired:REG_DWORD:0 I've rebooted the server and each time I attempt to connect, it continues to ask for a password. Any ideas? I have gotten AuthHosts to work just fine. Thanks. Joe Brown joe_brown@senet-int.com 703-206-9383 SeNet International Delivering Practical e-Security Solutions http://www.senet-int.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From dbucher@niftycom.com Thu Sep 27 16:10:22 2001 From: dbucher@niftycom.com (Denis Bucher) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 15:10:22 +0000 Subject: Bug/problem with VNC under Win2000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010927160226.009d2d90@mail.niftycom.com> Hello ! The problem is that I have problem with WinVNC under Windows 2000. It is either a bug, either missing explanations in the documentation When starting WinVNC under Win2000 it works, but I cannot use VNCviewer on Win98 to view it. The problem is that I can VIEW THE SCREEN of Win2000 from Win98 but only half a second and it diseapear ! And on Win2000 the mouse moves during that half second, and the background becomes 'one-colour', and then nothing anymore. In a word IT WORKS, but only half a second. Therefore I think it must be a files protection problem under Win2000, or maybe some refresh method that doesn't work, or something like that. And in addition, there is NO HELP on installing WinVNC under Win2000, at least not about the files protection... Thanks a LOT for any help ! Denis Bucher NiftyCom P.S. After helping me you could add the answer to the doc, it would be therefore useful for other people.... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From MGillespie@dek.com Thu Sep 27 17:06:28 2001 From: MGillespie@dek.com (MGillespie@dek.com) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 16:06:28 +0000 Subject: RFB Greyscale Support Message-ID: Are there any mods to server or viewers, to work in greyscale mode? I was hoping to further lower the bandwidth requirements, and the obvious thing to remove is colour!!! Has anyone done any work on this? (for Win32 preferably), does the RFB protocol support this mode? 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I suggest seeing if there are newer drivers from the manufacture (not MS). You could also try to set the colours to 16 bit or even 256. Make sure active desktop is off also. Hope the help on starting. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Denis Bucher Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 10:02 AM To: VNC mailing-liste Subject: Bug/problem with VNC under Win2000 Hello ! The problem is that I have problem with WinVNC under Windows 2000. It is either a bug, either missing explanations in the documentation When starting WinVNC under Win2000 it works, but I cannot use VNCviewer on Win98 to view it. The problem is that I can VIEW THE SCREEN of Win2000 from Win98 but only half a second and it diseapear ! And on Win2000 the mouse moves during that half second, and the background becomes 'one-colour', and then nothing anymore. In a word IT WORKS, but only half a second. Therefore I think it must be a files protection problem under Win2000, or maybe some refresh method that doesn't work, or something like that. And in addition, there is NO HELP on installing WinVNC under Win2000, at least not about the files protection... Thanks a LOT for any help ! Denis Bucher NiftyCom P.S. After helping me you could add the answer to the doc, it would be therefore useful for other people.... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From wayne_cass@non.hp.com Thu Sep 27 18:23:15 2001 From: wayne_cass@non.hp.com (CASS,WAYNE (Non-HP-Boise,ex1)) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 17:23:15 +0000 Subject: Bug/problem with VNC under Win2000 Message-ID: I have installed in on Win2000 and had no problems, I used the standard install. and the latest release. WinVNC Version 3.3.3 R9 Regards, Wayne -----Original Message----- From: Denis Bucher [mailto:dbucher@niftycom.com] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 8:02 AM To: VNC mailing-liste Subject: Bug/problem with VNC under Win2000 Hello ! The problem is that I have problem with WinVNC under Windows 2000. It is either a bug, either missing explanations in the documentation When starting WinVNC under Win2000 it works, but I cannot use VNCviewer on Win98 to view it. The problem is that I can VIEW THE SCREEN of Win2000 from Win98 but only half a second and it diseapear ! And on Win2000 the mouse moves during that half second, and the background becomes 'one-colour', and then nothing anymore. In a word IT WORKS, but only half a second. Therefore I think it must be a files protection problem under Win2000, or maybe some refresh method that doesn't work, or something like that. And in addition, there is NO HELP on installing WinVNC under Win2000, at least not about the files protection... Thanks a LOT for any help ! Denis Bucher NiftyCom P.S. After helping me you could add the answer to the doc, it would be therefore useful for other people.... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Thu Sep 27 18:23:22 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 17:23:22 +0000 Subject: AuthRequired value not working??? In-Reply-To: <002f01c1475a$b2973fd0$3c05a8c0@senetelite> Message-ID: <000601c1476e$8bf44260$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> As I understand this option, it requires you to delete the password, as if there is still a password it will prompt you for one. The other option is to download the tight vnc from www.tightvnc.com this has an advanced button from the properties page that allows you to check/un auth required. But I still believe that it will require you to remove the password. Note the password can be stored in a few places in the registry, just removing one of them won't do the job. HKEY current user and HKEY local machine. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Joe Brown Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 9:46 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: AuthRequired value not working??? Hello all, I sent this about a week ago but, no one responded so I'm going to try it again. I'm running WinVNC v3.3.3R9 on W2K server with IIS 5.0 on a LAN in a test environment. I wish to allow null connections. Here is the registry value I entered under the following key. [HKLM\Software\ORL\WinVNC3] AuthRequired:REG_DWORD:0 I've rebooted the server and each time I attempt to connect, it continues to ask for a password. Any ideas? I have gotten AuthHosts to work just fine. Thanks. Joe Brown joe_brown@senet-int.com 703-206-9383 SeNet International Delivering Practical e-Security Solutions http://www.senet-int.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From dgautheron@magic.fr Thu Sep 27 18:29:59 2001 From: dgautheron@magic.fr (didier) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 17:29:59 +0000 Subject: Garbled IBM server Display References: <81F639B56628D011A32D0020AFFC01900A89FC5D@jsc-ems-mbs07.jsc. nasa.gov> Message-ID: <3BB38C8A.5040E3AC@magic.fr> "DERSHOWITZ, ADAM (JSC-DF) (USA)" wrote: > > But then when I try to connect to it from a Windows client the screen is > garbled. I can open an xterm but all the characters are wrong (but the > keyboard functions correctly). If I left click on the background the menu > that pops up is readable, but "blurry". If I drag over the menu then things > become more clear. So something is clearly very wrong. > 1) viewer pb Try with different depth, color sheme : vncserver -depth 32 -pixelformat rgb888 2) an ORL extension pb or Xfree pb (-D__s390__ isn't enough). Try : xwd -root > something xwud -in something If you can put a garbled screenshot somewhere. Didier --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From shawnc@uidaho.edu Thu Sep 27 19:13:34 2001 From: shawnc@uidaho.edu (Shawn Clabough) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 18:13:34 +0000 Subject: Keyboard shortcut Message-ID: Are there any keyboard shortcuts available while using the Windows viewer? I know this would cause problems for deciding whether or not to send the keystrokes to the remote or not, but perhaps some odd key combinations could be optionally used for viewer configuration. I'm specifically hoping for a way to turn on/off the 'View Only' setting as when I'm helping someone remotely, I'd like to quickly toggle whether or not I control their keyboard/mouse. TIA, Shawn --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jwl@sgi.com Thu Sep 27 19:41:49 2001 From: jwl@sgi.com (Jim Lynch) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 18:41:49 +0000 Subject: Why doesn't xstartup get read? Message-ID: <3BB363AB.52EDEE23@sgi.com> I'm reading the FAQ and it says, "The window manager is started by the ~/.vnc/xstartup script." No matter what I put in that file, it still goes to my ~/.xsession file and uses it. Nothing from xstartup is used. I suspect it isn't even being read. ls -l total 16 -rw-r--r-- 1 jwl jwl 996 Sep 27 13:19 chinaberry:1.log -rw-r--r-- 1 jwl jwl 6 Sep 27 13:17 chinaberry:1.pid -rw------- 1 jwl jwl 8 Dec 28 2000 passwd -rwxr-xr-x 1 jwl jwl 180 Sep 27 13:16 xstartup Anyone know what's going on? Nothing shows up in the log that gives me a clue. Version 3.3.3 vncserver, I think. Thanks, Jim. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Thu Sep 27 20:22:03 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 19:22:03 +0000 Subject: Why doesn't xstartup get read? In-Reply-To: <3BB363AB.52EDEE23@sgi.com> Message-ID: <000801c1477f$8bbca7e0$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> Are you starting Xvnc or vncserver. Vncserver requires perl as it is a perl script and will read and execute the contents of xstartup. If you are using Xvnc then you should be using the -query option to connect to the xdm. Please tell us how you are starting the vnc server (script inetd???). include the platform and patch level. Thank you Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Jim Lynch Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 1:37 PM To: vnc list Subject: Why doesn't xstartup get read? I'm reading the FAQ and it says, "The window manager is started by the ~/.vnc/xstartup script." No matter what I put in that file, it still goes to my ~/.xsession file and uses it. Nothing from xstartup is used. I suspect it isn't even being read. ls -l total 16 -rw-r--r-- 1 jwl jwl 996 Sep 27 13:19 chinaberry:1.log -rw-r--r-- 1 jwl jwl 6 Sep 27 13:17 chinaberry:1.pid -rw------- 1 jwl jwl 8 Dec 28 2000 passwd -rwxr-xr-x 1 jwl jwl 180 Sep 27 13:16 xstartup Anyone know what's going on? Nothing shows up in the log that gives me a clue. Version 3.3.3 vncserver, I think. Thanks, Jim. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From SEF@chives.jpl.nasa.gov Thu Sep 27 22:02:45 2001 From: SEF@chives.jpl.nasa.gov (SEF@chives.jpl.nasa.gov) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 21:02:45 +0000 Subject: gv won't run in vncviewer Message-ID: <010927125814.aecc@chives.jpl.nasa.gov> Hi, When I start the vnc server and invoke the viewer and try to run gv - ghostview - to display a postscript file I get the following errors. Everything else works fine but does seem a bit slow esp if viewing thru a web browser. % gv file.ps Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-Helvetica-Medium-R-Normal--*-140-*-*-P-*-ISO8 859-1" to type FontStruct Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-Helvetica-Medium-R-Normal--*-120-*-*-P-*-ISO8 859-1" to type FontStruct Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-Helvetica-Medium-R-Normal--*-100-*-*-P-*-ISO8 859-1" to type FontStruct Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-Courier-Medium-R-Normal--*-100-*-*-M-*-ISO885 9-1" to type FontStruct When the server is running on a remote system gv does seem to start up but I get the same messages and I also get a GhostScript error message window: Error: PostScript interpreter failed in main window Thanks in Advance!, Scott --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From getsome831@hotmail.com Thu Sep 27 22:46:11 2001 From: getsome831@hotmail.com (Gregg Waltz) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 21:46:11 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Cc: John_Roland_Elliott@Hotmail.com Subject: Re: No remote access? 1) Yes, i am using the address on the WAN side of my firewall and yes, my RT314 does NAT between a private network and a single public address. I've also successfully setup the port forwarding previously w/ an ftp server, irc dcc sends, etc. 2) Let's see here: - I don't think i can put a computer on the unprotected (WAN) side of the firewall, by defualt my routeer forces everthing behind the firewall. - I put my PC directly on the net w/o the router/firewall and i still got a "ReadExact: Socket error while reading." error message. So i guess it's not my firewall. 3) We actually use VNC at my work on multiple computers on our network so i'm pretty sure that port isn't being blocked. As for changing the VNC server listening port, i'm not exactly sure about how i'd go about that. Any other comments/questions that might lead me anywhere? thanks, -gregg I don't have a solution for you but rather some questions which, if you can answer them, may help you get closer to a solution. 1) First, the easy one ... from the client at work, when you tell the viewer what to connect to, you are using the IP address of the WAN side of your home firewall, aren't you? (Not the address of the VNC server on your private network.) I'm guessing that the RT314 works the way my SMC Barricade and Linksys Router do, namely, it does NAT between a private network and a single public address. Since your home network is a private network, you can't get to it from your work. You have to talk to the public (WAN) side of your home firewall and let the firewall forward it to the VNC server on the private network. 2) Is it a problem with your home firewall or something else? - If you put a computer on the unprotected (WAN) side of the firewall, can it connect to the VNC server through the firewall? If so, the problem is not in your home firewall configuration / capabilities. - If you remove the firewall from the mix, i.e., put the VNC server unprotected on the net, can you connect to it from work? If so, your problem is in your home firewall. 3) Is a firewall at work blocking outbound connections on 5900? - If you change the VNC server to listen on port 80, e.g., can you get to it? Set the VNC server to use display number 4294961476 (sic ... that number is 2^32-5900+80) and when you bring up the viewer, tell it that the VNC server is "ip-address-of-firewall:4294961476". Don't forget to tell your firewall at home to redirect port 80 to the VNC server. Good luck, JRE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregg Waltz" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 3:14 AM Subject: No remote access? > I don't have any problem connecting locally to either one of my machines > (back and forth), but if i try to connect from work or some other domain i'm > not able to connect. I am running behind a firewall (Netgear RT314) but i'm > forwarding ports 5900 & 5901 to my local machines respectively, why do i > keep coming up with the "Failed to Connect to Server" errors? What could be > my problem(s) here? > > Thanks, > > -gregg > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jwl@sgi.com Thu Sep 27 22:54:23 2001 From: jwl@sgi.com (Jim Lynch) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 21:54:23 +0000 Subject: Why doesn't xstartup get read? References: <000801c1477f$8bbca7e0$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> Message-ID: <3BB3911B.28E781C4@sgi.com> After I figured out that vncserver was a perl script, thanks Steve, I had a look at it. It didn't make a lot of sense, so I downloaded the latest software and compared the new script with the one I'm running. They are quite a bit different. The new one works fine. Thanks and sorry for the bandwidth. No xdm. This is a Linux, Debian 2.2. Vnc is 3.3.3r9 perhaps? THanks, Jim. Steve Palocz wrote: > > Are you starting Xvnc or vncserver. Vncserver requires perl as it is a perl > script and will read and execute the contents of xstartup. If you are using > Xvnc then you should be using the -query option to connect to the xdm. > > Please tell us how you are starting the vnc server (script inetd???). > include the platform and patch level. > > Thank you > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Jim Lynch > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 1:37 PM > To: vnc list > Subject: Why doesn't xstartup get read? > > I'm reading the FAQ and it says, "The window manager is started by the > ~/.vnc/xstartup script." No matter what I put in that file, it still > goes to my ~/.xsession file and uses it. Nothing from xstartup is > used. I suspect it isn't even being read. > > ls -l > total 16 > -rw-r--r-- 1 jwl jwl 996 Sep 27 13:19 chinaberry:1.log > -rw-r--r-- 1 jwl jwl 6 Sep 27 13:17 chinaberry:1.pid > -rw------- 1 jwl jwl 8 Dec 28 2000 passwd > -rwxr-xr-x 1 jwl jwl 180 Sep 27 13:16 xstartup > > Anyone know what's going on? Nothing shows up in the log that gives me a > clue. Version 3.3.3 vncserver, I think. > > Thanks, > Jim. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From stokely@cribmail.com Thu Sep 27 23:41:03 2001 From: stokely@cribmail.com (Stokely Boast) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 22:41:03 +0000 Subject: Multiple interfaces. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I just joined the list so I apologize if this has come up in the past (is there a digest somewhere?). I have a Windows ME machine (I know I deserve what I get) on which I run a vnc server. It has two interfaces (one wired and one wireless). The mouse-over on the icon in the menubar shows the IP addresses for both interfaces but the server only accepts connections on one address (the wireless one, as it happens). The wired interface is a 10.x.x.x address and the wireless is 192.168.x.x. Help? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From John_Roland_Elliott@Hotmail.com Fri Sep 28 02:18:37 2001 From: John_Roland_Elliott@Hotmail.com (John Roland Elliott) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 01:18:37 +0000 Subject: No remote access? Message-ID: <> From: "Gregg Waltz" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 4:42 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Cc: John_Roland_Elliott@Hotmail.com > Subject: > > 1) Yes, i am using the address on the WAN side of my firewall and yes, my > RT314 does NAT between a private network and a single public address. I've > also successfully setup the port forwarding previously w/ an ftp server, irc > dcc sends, etc. Sorry to have to ask that one ... never can tell what might get overlooked. > > 2) Let's see here: > - I don't think i can put a computer on the unprotected (WAN) side of the > firewall, by defualt my routeer forces everthing behind the firewall. I thought you might connect the WAN side of the router (hub or crossover cable may be needed here) to another computer running VNC viewer to see if it could get through your home firewall but it seems like you've concluded that it's not a problem with the firewall. > - I put my PC directly on the net w/o the router/firewall and i still got a > "ReadExact: Socket error while reading." error message. So i guess it's not > my firewall. > > 3) We actually use VNC at my work on multiple computers on our network so > i'm pretty sure that port isn't being blocked. Okay that shows that VNC works *inside* the network at work but there's still the question whether port 5900 is allowed out through the firewall that protects your network at work from the bad guys. Do you know of any VNC servers outside your network that you can reach from inside your network? > As for changing the VNC server listening port, i'm not exactly sure about how i'd go about that. Sadly, you have to change the registry entries for the server and enter some bogus stuff in the client's server field. I'll paste some relevant discussion at the end of this message. > Any other comments/questions that might lead me anywhere? > > thanks, Don't thank me 'til it's working. > > -gregg > <> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- A thread from the discussion group about changing the port used by VNC to 21: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- First of all, the big number is right: 2^32 - 5900 + 21 = 4294961417 Second, to my surprise, the VNC server control panel would not accept it for me either; it behaved just like you said. Using regedit, you can enter the port number directly without any of the arithmetic. The keys/values you want are: [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ORL\WinVNC3] "AutoPortSelect"=dword:00000000 "PortNumber"=dword:00000015 The PortNumber value, 15, is hexadecimal for 21 which you can enter as 21 when you use regedit. As a sanity check, after you enter these, you will see that the VNC server properties show 4294961417 for the display number. Cheers, JRE ----- Original Message ----- From: "FOO JOUNG WEE" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 3:43 AM Subject: RE: Changing negative port number to VNC server > Hi Andrew, > > I did as you told, changing the port number to 4294961417. But VNC server can't > seem to recognise this large number. After I clicked "Apply" & "OK", when I > re-open the properties, the port number is reset back to zero. Do you know how > to overcome this problem? > > Regards, > Jon > > > I think I know what you want to do. The trick is that the port number is > internally represented an signed 32 bit number, so can be represented in > a two's complement manner. Change the port number to the equivalent > large decimal number. > > -5879 is FFFF E909 which is 4294961417 > > Andrew > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On Behalf Of FOO JOUNG WEE > Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2001 12:12 > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Changing negative port number to VNC server > > > Hi. I want to use port 21 as the port for VNC server. But I am unable to > change the port number to -5879. I can only key in positive port number. > However at the VNC viewer, I'm able to change it to -5879 (5900 - 5879 = > 21). I've serched the FAQ and documentation and couldn't find anything > on this issue. Can anyone please help me? Thank you. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gbendotti@agric.wa.gov.au Fri Sep 28 02:35:56 2001 From: gbendotti@agric.wa.gov.au (Bendotti, Gerard) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 01:35:56 +0000 Subject: Bug/problem with VNC under Win2000 Message-ID: <2BCD8A1EC385D311AE9B00062950091901F00BE6@agspsrv19.agric.wa .gov.au> Hi this is new to me >Make sure active desktop is off also. Why? Gerard Bendotti Human Resources Systems Development Officer ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Palocz [SMTP:spalocz@tgtsolutions.com] > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 12:08 AM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: RE: Bug/problem with VNC under Win2000 > > This sounds like it could be a video/network driver issue. Vnc will > exploit > any fault in the driver. I suggest seeing if there are newer drivers from > the manufacture (not MS). You could also try to set the colours to 16 bit > or > even 256. Make sure active desktop is off also. > > Hope the help on starting. > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Denis Bucher > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 10:02 AM > To: VNC mailing-liste > Subject: Bug/problem with VNC under Win2000 > > > Hello ! > > The problem is that I have problem with WinVNC under Windows 2000. > It is either a bug, either missing explanations in the documentation > > When starting WinVNC under Win2000 it works, but I cannot use VNCviewer on > Win98 to view it. The problem is that I can VIEW THE SCREEN of Win2000 > from Win98 but only half a second and it diseapear ! And on Win2000 the > mouse > moves during that half second, and the background becomes 'one-colour', > and > then > nothing anymore. In a word IT WORKS, but only half a second. > > Therefore I think it must be a files protection problem under Win2000, or > maybe > some refresh method that doesn't work, or something like that. And in > addition, > there is NO HELP on installing WinVNC under Win2000, at least not about > the > files protection... > > Thanks a LOT for any help ! > > Denis Bucher > NiftyCom > > P.S. After helping me you could add the answer to the doc, it would be > therefore useful for other people.... > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Fri Sep 28 09:46:10 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 08:46:10 +0000 Subject: Unable to check numeric address Message-ID: Hi, I' m trying to re issue this on the list lacking response so far. I believe to have read in the archives that using the java applet does not require that the called html/applet need not necessarily sit on the same box as the vnc-server box (=different IPs) Doing so I get from the "gateway" com.ms.security SecurityExceptionEx[rfpProto.] Unable to check numeric address "212.255.x.x" (ie. actual server box) I'm using this on say 195.143.y.y. and this works fast asy hell if HOST below is equally 195.143.y.y. VNC VIEWER BUT IF I want to have the html and applet seperated from the target vnc server machine as shown above (212.255.x.x) I get the applet loaded from 195.143.y.y. but then the sandbox tells me com.ms.security SecurityExceptionEx[rfpProto.] Unable to check numeric address "212.255.x.x" Does anybody have a clue? Dietmar [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From akira@sra.co.jp Fri Sep 28 10:25:56 2001 From: akira@sra.co.jp (Akira Hatakeyama) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 09:25:56 +0000 Subject: RFB Greyscale Support In-Reply-To: ; from MGillespie@dek.com on Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 04:03:44PM +0100 References: Message-ID: <20010928171921.B56854@sra.co.jp> Greetings On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 04:03:44PM +0100, MGillespie@dek.com wrote: > Are there any mods to server or viewers, to work in greyscale mode? PM Viewer (for OS/2) support greyscale display. It communicate VNC server with BGR332, and display them with 4 level grey scale. PM VNC viewer also display with VGA16 colors, but generally, 4 level greyscale gives more natural image. > Has anyone done any work on this? (for Win32 preferably), does the RFB > protocol support this mode? RFB protocol does not support greyscale (AFAIK). -- Akira Hatakeyama E-Mail: akira@sra.co.jp http://www.sra.co.jp/people/akira/index.html chigasaki-minami, tsuzuki ward, yokohama, japan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jimmy_cmwong@yahoo.com Fri Sep 28 11:25:42 2001 From: jimmy_cmwong@yahoo.com (Jimmy Wong) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 10:25:42 +0000 Subject: Possible for VNC "multi-control environment"? Message-ID: <20010928092002.11951.qmail@web20208.mail.yahoo.com> HI, Just wonder it is possible for VNC to have "multi-control environment"? What I means VNC multi-control environment is when two or more VNC clients connected to the same VNC server, all of them are allowed to connected as Application Mode rather than Listen Mode. Just like Telnet for example, it allows different users/administrators to logon to the same server to perform different tasks without affecting each others. So, on the VNC Server, the screen, mouse, and keyboard can be used by the local administrator. Well, remote administrators can log on the the same server using VNC clients to perform their own tasks. All the tasks are running at background under the protected modes (without affecting/crashing each others). Therefore, administrative tasks/works can be done by a group of administrators remotely at the same time (concurrently). Anyone have any idea how to achieve this? Regards, Jimmy Wong 28 Sept 2001 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From foo.joungwee@toshiba.com.sg Fri Sep 28 12:24:48 2001 From: foo.joungwee@toshiba.com.sg (FOO JOUNG WEE) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 11:24:48 +0000 Subject: "Connection closed" error message Message-ID: <48256AD5.0038C477.00@toshiba.com.sg> Hi, When I try to connect my office pc to my home pc, i get an error message "Connection closed". My office pc is behind a proxy/firewall and there's no way I can bypass it. The firewall will block most of the port numbers so I'm force to use some unblcked common port number such as 21. I went through the FAQ and documentation and did some checks but there are some setting which I do not know how to check. They are as follows: 1. I'm able to do a PING on my home pc (server) from my office pc (client). 2. I've set the TCP/IP on both PCs as the default protocol (previously NetBEUI is the default protocol). I understand that VNC need specific setting on the TCP/IP in order to work. May I know what are these settings? (e.g. DNS config, gateway, etc). And also, may I know how to create an error log file? Can any experts out there help me solve my connection problems? Thanks in advance. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From dbucher@niftycom.com Fri Sep 28 13:47:02 2001 From: dbucher@niftycom.com (Denis Bucher) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 12:47:02 +0000 Subject: Bug/problem with VNC under Win2000 In-Reply-To: <000701c1476e$8c8b5240$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20010927160226.009d2d90@mail.niftycom.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010928133733.00a2ccb0@mail.niftycom.com> At 12:07 27.09.01 -0400, you wrote: >This sounds like it could be a video/network driver issue. Vnc will exploit >any fault in the driver. I suggest seeing if there are newer drivers from >the manufacture (not MS). You could also try to set the colours to 16 bit or >even 256. Make sure active desktop is off also. > >Hope the help on starting. Thanks a lot I will try it, seems quite possible :-)) Denis Bucher NiftyCom --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From paul.m.mcdonald@bt.com Fri Sep 28 14:04:54 2001 From: paul.m.mcdonald@bt.com (paul.m.mcdonald@bt.com) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 13:04:54 +0000 Subject: Right Mouse Click Message-ID: I am new to this list so forgive me if I've missed this one. We are running VNC to view HPOpenview via the web, however we cannot seem to be able to right mouse click from within VNC. Is there a setting somewhere so we can enable this function ? Thanks --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Shaun.Brachmann@kohler.com Fri Sep 28 14:16:50 2001 From: Shaun.Brachmann@kohler.com (Brachmann Shaun) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 13:16:50 +0000 Subject: What will be in the next version of VNC? And when? Message-ID: Are there any confirmed lists of features for the next version of VNC? Is there a tentative date when this version would be released? Many of the variants (TightVNC, etc.) have some great features, but being a bit conservative I like to stay with the standard versions as much as possible. I'm really hoping for the ability to use different authentication schemes (NT/Win2K in particular). What VNC items might Santa be bringing us for Christmas? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From dbucher@niftycom.com Fri Sep 28 15:01:46 2001 From: dbucher@niftycom.com (Denis Bucher) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 14:01:46 +0000 Subject: Bug/problem with VNC under Win2000 In-Reply-To: <000701c1476e$8c8b5240$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20010927160226.009d2d90@mail.niftycom.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010928145232.027a6470@mail.niftycom.com> At 12:07 27.09.01 -0400, you wrote: >This sounds like it could be a video/network driver issue. Vnc will exploit >any fault in the driver. I suggest seeing if there are newer drivers from >the manufacture (not MS). You could also try to set the colours to 16 bit or >even 256. Make sure active desktop is off also. Well, in the meantime I thought about a problem : It worked under admin but not under a specific user ? Do you think it can be the driver anyway ? Denis --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Fri Sep 28 16:22:57 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 15:22:57 +0000 Subject: Right Mouse Click Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04E47@QMAIL> does anything at all happen when you try it?? What platforms are we talking about?? -----Original Message----- From: paul.m.mcdonald@bt.com [mailto:paul.m.mcdonald@bt.com] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 7:58 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Right Mouse Click I am new to this list so forgive me if I've missed this one. We are running VNC to view HPOpenview via the web, however we cannot seem to be able to right mouse click from within VNC. Is there a setting somewhere so we can enable this function ? Thanks --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From rui.coelho@altitude.com Fri Sep 28 16:38:19 2001 From: rui.coelho@altitude.com (Rui Jorge Coelho) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 15:38:19 +0000 Subject: tightVNC: What is best configuration (Zlib, JPEG, 8bit) for low b andwidth ? Message-ID: Hi. What is the best configuration (Zlib, JPEG, 8bit) for a low bandwidth connection ? I did some tests (using tightVNC for Windows, a dialup/modem connection at 56Kbits, 1024x768 and maximized browser pointed at slashdot.org) and it seems that: - the best configuration is Zlib and 8 bits, - JPEG is only useful when not using 8 bits. Thanks. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From saw27@mrao.cam.ac.uk Fri Sep 28 17:14:00 2001 From: saw27@mrao.cam.ac.uk (Seb Wills) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 16:14:00 +0000 Subject: VNC and Zonealarm Message-ID: I use VNC between two machines on a LAN (the client being a Win98 machine). Normally, VNC is highly responsive, and can do a full screen refresh in less than a second. If I enable ZoneAlarm (a free personal firewall which seems to be generally fairly highly regarded) on the client machine, VNC becomes unusably slow - it can barely keep up with moving the cursor around, and a full refresh takes 10s of seconds. Initially I assumed ZoneAlarm must just slow down all traffic a heck of a lot. But if I FTP a 5Mb file between two local machines, ZoneAlarm makes negligible difference to the transfer rate (433k/s instead of 466k/s). Can anyone suggest why ZoneAlarm is particularly affecting VNC performance and how to get round this (other than turning off ZoneAlarm when I use VNC)? Thanks seb --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Fri Sep 28 19:05:34 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 18:05:34 +0000 Subject: Bug/problem with VNC under Win2000 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20010928145232.027a6470@mail.niftycom.com> Message-ID: <002701c1483f$0488d3a0$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> This could be the resolution is changing for that user!?!. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Denis Bucher Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 8:53 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Bug/problem with VNC under Win2000 At 12:07 27.09.01 -0400, you wrote: >This sounds like it could be a video/network driver issue. Vnc will exploit >any fault in the driver. I suggest seeing if there are newer drivers from >the manufacture (not MS). You could also try to set the colours to 16 bit or >even 256. Make sure active desktop is off also. Well, in the meantime I thought about a problem : It worked under admin but not under a specific user ? Do you think it can be the driver anyway ? Denis --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Fri Sep 28 19:05:36 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 18:05:36 +0000 Subject: Bug/problem with VNC under Win2000 In-Reply-To: <2BCD8A1EC385D311AE9B00062950091901F00BE6@agspsrv19.agric.w a .gov.au> Message-ID: <002601c1483f$0363dba0$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> Because it doesn't work with the remove wallpaper feature, also since it is active, it causes a lot of updates from the vnc server to client. Turning it off will assist in finding the root of the problem. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Bendotti, Gerard Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 8:49 PM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: Bug/problem with VNC under Win2000 Hi this is new to me >Make sure active desktop is off also. Why? Gerard Bendotti Human Resources Systems Development Officer ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Palocz [SMTP:spalocz@tgtsolutions.com] > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 12:08 AM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: RE: Bug/problem with VNC under Win2000 > > This sounds like it could be a video/network driver issue. Vnc will > exploit > any fault in the driver. I suggest seeing if there are newer drivers from > the manufacture (not MS). You could also try to set the colours to 16 bit > or > even 256. Make sure active desktop is off also. > > Hope the help on starting. > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Denis Bucher > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 10:02 AM > To: VNC mailing-liste > Subject: Bug/problem with VNC under Win2000 > > > Hello ! > > The problem is that I have problem with WinVNC under Windows 2000. > It is either a bug, either missing explanations in the documentation > > When starting WinVNC under Win2000 it works, but I cannot use VNCviewer on > Win98 to view it. The problem is that I can VIEW THE SCREEN of Win2000 > from Win98 but only half a second and it diseapear ! And on Win2000 the > mouse > moves during that half second, and the background becomes 'one-colour', > and > then > nothing anymore. In a word IT WORKS, but only half a second. > > Therefore I think it must be a files protection problem under Win2000, or > maybe > some refresh method that doesn't work, or something like that. And in > addition, > there is NO HELP on installing WinVNC under Win2000, at least not about > the > files protection... > > Thanks a LOT for any help ! > > Denis Bucher > NiftyCom > > P.S. After helping me you could add the answer to the doc, it would be > therefore useful for other people.... > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From RonnieA@geotrust.com Fri Sep 28 19:28:22 2001 From: RonnieA@geotrust.com (Ronald Albuquerque) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 18:28:22 +0000 Subject: Multiple-users accessing same VNC server Message-ID: Hello, We're running Win2k Server on some of our test machines. We're running Win2k workstation on our desktops. I've installed VNC Server on all the test machines. Something I've noticed is that the VNC Server does not allow more than one connection. Here's what we want to achieve: 1. Run VNCServer on a machine (either Win2K Server or Win2K workstation) 2. Person 1 connects to the machine, either with browser or vncviewer. 3. Person 2 connects to the machine as well, either with browser or vncviewer Person 1 does NOT get disconnected. At this point, both person1 and person 2 are connected via VNC to the test machine. Is this possible at all ? If so, how would I tweak the VNC Server ? Best Regards, Ronald Albuquerque -- ---- Ronald Albuquerque, Senior Software Engineer Geotrust/Wellesley (www.geotrust.com) p: 781.263.4119 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tmiani@enterasys.com Fri Sep 28 19:36:32 2001 From: tmiani@enterasys.com (Miani, Thomas) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 18:36:32 +0000 Subject: Passwords on NT VNC Server Message-ID: Hello all : I have a question about how the Default password and the current user passwords are stored. I understand that the default password is held in the registry. My questions are these : Does NT have more than one current user profile ? To the VNC server, how are connections identified ? Does it identify by Mac Address, Cookie, Cache in the users machine ? and where are the passwords for those users maintained ? Your help would be greatly appreciated TJ TJ Miani (w) 978-684-1434 (c) 978-835-2842 tmiani@enterasys.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From clemens@bigfoot.com Fri Sep 28 20:18:14 2001 From: clemens@bigfoot.com (Clemens Resanka) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 19:18:14 +0000 Subject: serious VNC BUG!!!!! Message-ID: Hi all, Meanwhile I've tried it on several machines and the problem seems to appear everywhere. So imho this definetly is a bug in VNC. TightVNC has the same problem. You should be able to reproduce the problem easily: - In Win2000 Control Panel/Keyboard/InputLocales select the keyboard layout German or German(IBM) - Under Linux (only tried 2.4.x kernels, several distributions) start a vncserver - Under Windows start a vnc viewer and connect to the linux box. - In VNC press the key left to the 1 key, right above the tab key on your keyboard. On the german keyboard, this is where the cirumflex letter is. Instead of one circumflex character, two of these ^^ appear. In any other windows-application this does not appear so in my eyes, this has to be a bug in VNC. So far.. - Clemens - --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From msuresh_2001@yahoo.com Fri Sep 28 20:20:55 2001 From: msuresh_2001@yahoo.com (Suresh Mahalingam) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 19:20:55 +0000 Subject: Extra Control Characters Message-ID: <3BB4BEA9.9E20385C@yahoo.com> Hi, I am facing a problem when viewing windows 2000 screen on windows 98 machine. Whenever I type ' or " ( single or double quote ) a ^@ ( Ctrl-@ ) goes automatically after it as '^@ or "^@. This causes problems espacially when I am using vi (actually vim). I cannot use buffers for copy/paste as it uses ". Has any one on this list faced/solved a similiar problem. Is there a problem with my win98 keyboard setting. The characters do show correctly locally though. Thanks for any help, Suresh. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeffwm@uswest.net Fri Sep 28 20:23:19 2001 From: jeffwm@uswest.net (Jeff Mathewson) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 19:23:19 +0000 Subject: VNC Documentation Message-ID: <013401c1484a$37db6730$0100a8c0@homesystem> I understand that this question has most likely been asked over and over many times, but with the short time with VNC, I still am unable to find any good documentation on this product other then promo ads and a brief over view of features. >From what I understand at this point, the only documentation that is out there now is a downloadable version of the VNC web site and a PDF file that looks as if it was a promo ad that was scanned from a magazine. Is this all there is? Are there any projects underway to work on a better documentation to show the full benefits of all that VNC has to offer and with that detail information on what is needed to get VNC to work on all systems. I'm in dyer need of any type of detailed reference manuals for VNC. Thanks, Jeff. ----------------------------- Sinkbox Waterfowl Supply www.sinkbox.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From joe_brown@senet-int.com Fri Sep 28 20:27:06 2001 From: joe_brown@senet-int.com (Joe Brown) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 19:27:06 +0000 Subject: Passwords on NT VNC Server References: Message-ID: <005401c1484a$48ade420$3c05a8c0@senetelite> How I understand it: Only one current user profile. There is only one password, held in two places in the registry. You can't setup different passwords for different users. Users are not "identified". Anyone with vncviewer and the password can connect unless you set up VNC to filter by IP address using AuthHosts value. Anyone, please correct me if I am wrong. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Miani, Thomas" To: Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 1:33 PM Subject: Passwords on NT VNC Server > Hello all : > > I have a question about how the Default password and the current > user passwords are stored. > > I understand that the default password is held in the registry. > > My questions are these : > > Does NT have more than one current user profile ? > To the VNC server, how are connections identified ? > Does it identify by Mac Address, Cookie, Cache in the users machine > ? > and where are the passwords for those users maintained ? > > Your help would be greatly appreciated > > TJ > > TJ Miani > (w) 978-684-1434 > (c) 978-835-2842 > tmiani@enterasys.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Fri Sep 28 21:00:21 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 20:00:21 +0000 Subject: serious VNC BUG!!!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sorry, but this is not reproduceable in my environs. Diacritical characters generally do not appear on the first keyclick but double on a second keyclick. This is normal because diacritical characters wait for the (next) character they should appear above, below or whatever. Hence, if there's no character such as an "e" which can carry a circumflex the two characters will be put out in sequence thus the first keyclick on circumflex displays nothing an the second will display evoke "^^". Upon this post I've tested this in windows to windows and windows to linux and have not observed the "BUG" phenomenon, rather regular behaviour as described above. One reason for this to occur one could reason is incompatible keyboard mapping on the Linux and Windows side Dietmar -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Clemens Resanka Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 8:14 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: serious VNC BUG!!!!! Hi all, Meanwhile I've tried it on several machines and the problem seems to appear everywhere. So imho this definetly is a bug in VNC. TightVNC has the same problem. You should be able to reproduce the problem easily: - In Win2000 Control Panel/Keyboard/InputLocales select the keyboard layout German or German(IBM) - Under Linux (only tried 2.4.x kernels, several distributions) start a vncserver - Under Windows start a vnc viewer and connect to the linux box. - In VNC press the key left to the 1 key, right above the tab key on your keyboard. On the german keyboard, this is where the cirumflex letter is. Instead of one circumflex character, two of these ^^ appear. In any other windows-application this does not appear so in my eyes, this has to be a bug in VNC. So far.. - Clemens - --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Fri Sep 28 22:16:12 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 21:16:12 +0000 Subject: Multiple-users accessing same VNC server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003601c1485a$1c601540$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> Yes that is possible. Use the shared option. But note you will both have the same desktop, so will be fighting over mouse and keyboard. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Ronald Albuquerque Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 1:19 PM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: Multiple-users accessing same VNC server Hello, We're running Win2k Server on some of our test machines. We're running Win2k workstation on our desktops. I've installed VNC Server on all the test machines. Something I've noticed is that the VNC Server does not allow more than one connection. Here's what we want to achieve: 1. Run VNCServer on a machine (either Win2K Server or Win2K workstation) 2. Person 1 connects to the machine, either with browser or vncviewer. 3. Person 2 connects to the machine as well, either with browser or vncviewer Person 1 does NOT get disconnected. At this point, both person1 and person 2 are connected via VNC to the test machine. Is this possible at all ? If so, how would I tweak the VNC Server ? Best Regards, Ronald Albuquerque -- ---- Ronald Albuquerque, Senior Software Engineer Geotrust/Wellesley (www.geotrust.com) p: 781.263.4119 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From LifengX@ilx.com Fri Sep 28 22:58:14 2001 From: LifengX@ilx.com (Lifeng Xu) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 21:58:14 +0000 Subject: clients limitation Message-ID: <446C828F6E4FD311A5550090273F10F2015C33AA@4PRO> Hi,all. I have installed vncserver on a SCO5 box. Everything seems to be ok except for a little problem, which is that it can't support more than 63 clients. Any clients after the 63rd can't start up. Server shows error "failed to oipen listener for SCO". I tried increasing the socket size with no help. Is there any parameter to increase the max clinets? Thanks. Best Regards, Lifeng Xu --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jenneyr@peakonline.com Fri Sep 28 23:48:50 2001 From: jenneyr@peakonline.com (Russell E. Jenney) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 22:48:50 +0000 Subject: VNC and Zonealarm References: Message-ID: <3BB4EF3D.DCA32BFE@peakonline.com> I have a LAN with two Windows 200 machines and a Mac 7100 with both VNC and Zone Alarm on both Windows based machines. I have noticed no slowdown between either Windows based machines going either direction. There is a slow response between either Windows based machines and the Mac, but the Mac is a slow machine to begin with. I suggest that the slowdown may be due to the caching capability of your processor, the amount of RAM in the machine, or how Windows 98 handles higher level of memory. This might ne an area of investigation, as opposed to Zone Alarm handing. Seb Wills wrote: > I use VNC between two machines on a LAN (the client being a Win98 > machine). Normally, VNC is highly responsive, and can do a full screen > refresh in less than a second. > > If I enable ZoneAlarm (a free personal firewall which seems to be > generally fairly highly regarded) on the client machine, VNC becomes > unusably slow - it can barely keep up with moving the cursor around, and a > full refresh takes 10s of seconds. > > Initially I assumed ZoneAlarm must just slow down all traffic a heck of a > lot. But if I FTP a 5Mb file between two local machines, ZoneAlarm makes > negligible difference to the transfer rate (433k/s instead of 466k/s). > > Can anyone suggest why ZoneAlarm is particularly affecting VNC performance > and how to get round this (other than turning off ZoneAlarm when I use > VNC)? > > Thanks > > seb > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gbendotti@agric.wa.gov.au Sat Sep 29 00:37:20 2001 From: gbendotti@agric.wa.gov.au (Bendotti, Gerard) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 23:37:20 +0000 Subject: Bug/problem with VNC under Win2000 Message-ID: <2BCD8A1EC385D311AE9B00062950091901F00BE9@agspsrv19.agric.wa .gov.au> Thanks, was just curious. Gerard Bendotti Human Resources Systems Development Officer ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Palocz [SMTP:spalocz@tgtsolutions.com] > Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 1:00 AM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: RE: Bug/problem with VNC under Win2000 > > Because it doesn't work with the remove wallpaper feature, also since it > is > active, it causes a lot of updates from the vnc server to client. Turning > it > off will assist in finding the root of the problem. > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Bendotti, Gerard > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 8:49 PM > To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' > Subject: RE: Bug/problem with VNC under Win2000 > > > Hi this is new to me > >Make sure active desktop is off also. > Why? > > Gerard Bendotti > > Human Resources Systems Development Officer > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > - > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Steve Palocz [SMTP:spalocz@tgtsolutions.com] > > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 12:08 AM > > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > Subject: RE: Bug/problem with VNC under Win2000 > > > > This sounds like it could be a video/network driver issue. Vnc will > > exploit > > any fault in the driver. I suggest seeing if there are newer drivers > from > > the manufacture (not MS). You could also try to set the colours to 16 > bit > > or > > even 256. Make sure active desktop is off also. > > > > Hope the help on starting. > > > > Steve > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Denis Bucher > > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 10:02 AM > > To: VNC mailing-liste > > Subject: Bug/problem with VNC under Win2000 > > > > > > Hello ! > > > > The problem is that I have problem with WinVNC under Windows 2000. > > It is either a bug, either missing explanations in the documentation > > > > When starting WinVNC under Win2000 it works, but I cannot use VNCviewer > on > > Win98 to view it. The problem is that I can VIEW THE SCREEN of Win2000 > > from Win98 but only half a second and it diseapear ! And on Win2000 the > > mouse > > moves during that half second, and the background becomes 'one-colour', > > and > > then > > nothing anymore. In a word IT WORKS, but only half a second. > > > > Therefore I think it must be a files protection problem under Win2000, > or > > maybe > > some refresh method that doesn't work, or something like that. And in > > addition, > > there is NO HELP on installing WinVNC under Win2000, at least not about > > the > > files protection... > > > > Thanks a LOT for any help ! > > > > Denis Bucher > > NiftyCom > > > > P.S. After helping me you could add the answer to the doc, it would be > > therefore useful for other people.... > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Sat Sep 29 00:51:23 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 23:51:23 +0000 Subject: Bug/problem with VNC under Win2000 Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04E56@QMAIL> AFAIK, "remove wallpaper" doesn't work properly period on Win2k or NT - I've tried it before, it removes the wallpaper when the VNC viewer connects, but on disconnect it restores the default user's wallpaper instead of the current user's. This is a known issue, the maintainer's page has a blurb that says he knows. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Palocz [mailto:spalocz@tgtsolutions.com] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 1:00 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Bug/problem with VNC under Win2000 Because it doesn't work with the remove wallpaper feature, also since it is active, it causes a lot of updates from the vnc server to client. Turning it off will assist in finding the root of the problem. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Bendotti, Gerard Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 8:49 PM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: Bug/problem with VNC under Win2000 Hi this is new to me >Make sure active desktop is off also. Why? Gerard Bendotti Human Resources Systems Development Officer ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Palocz [SMTP:spalocz@tgtsolutions.com] > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 12:08 AM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: RE: Bug/problem with VNC under Win2000 > > This sounds like it could be a video/network driver issue. Vnc will > exploit > any fault in the driver. I suggest seeing if there are newer drivers from > the manufacture (not MS). You could also try to set the colours to 16 bit > or > even 256. Make sure active desktop is off also. > > Hope the help on starting. > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Denis Bucher > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 10:02 AM > To: VNC mailing-liste > Subject: Bug/problem with VNC under Win2000 > > > Hello ! > > The problem is that I have problem with WinVNC under Windows 2000. > It is either a bug, either missing explanations in the documentation > > When starting WinVNC under Win2000 it works, but I cannot use VNCviewer on > Win98 to view it. The problem is that I can VIEW THE SCREEN of Win2000 > from Win98 but only half a second and it diseapear ! And on Win2000 the > mouse > moves during that half second, and the background becomes 'one-colour', > and > then > nothing anymore. In a word IT WORKS, but only half a second. > > Therefore I think it must be a files protection problem under Win2000, or > maybe > some refresh method that doesn't work, or something like that. And in > addition, > there is NO HELP on installing WinVNC under Win2000, at least not about > the > files protection... > > Thanks a LOT for any help ! > > Denis Bucher > NiftyCom > > P.S. After helping me you could add the answer to the doc, it would be > therefore useful for other people.... > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Sat Sep 29 00:55:38 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 23:55:38 +0000 Subject: VNC Documentation Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04E57@QMAIL> What's generally available is under the "Documentation" link on the AT&T VNC website. Tridia's VNC distro may come with some printed info if that's what you want (and want to pay for) see http://www.tridiavnc.com. Generally, if you're looking for something specific, try searching the mailing list archives through the AT&T VNC website - when all else fails, post here. Also, I've made a suggestion that the good people at AT&T UK research should consider implementing a user-maintainable FAQ system, but haven't seen a response to that yet. Glenn -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Mathewson [mailto:jeffwm@uswest.net] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 2:20 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: VNC Documentation I understand that this question has most likely been asked over and over many times, but with the short time with VNC, I still am unable to find any good documentation on this product other then promo ads and a brief over view of features. >From what I understand at this point, the only documentation that is out there now is a downloadable version of the VNC web site and a PDF file that looks as if it was a promo ad that was scanned from a magazine. Is this all there is? Are there any projects underway to work on a better documentation to show the full benefits of all that VNC has to offer and with that detail information on what is needed to get VNC to work on all systems. I'm in dyer need of any type of detailed reference manuals for VNC. Thanks, Jeff. ----------------------------- Sinkbox Waterfowl Supply www.sinkbox.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ccah@thegreen.co.uk Sat Sep 29 02:22:44 2001 From: ccah@thegreen.co.uk (Ceri Hankey) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 01:22:44 +0000 Subject: serious VNC BUG!!!!! References: Message-ID: <005d01c1487b$c26523b0$6764a8c0@ceri4> Ihave noticed this in SOME Windows applications as well as in Linux. I have found that the answer seems to be to type a SPACE after the first diacritical character if that is all you want to see eg (And I have just found that Outlook Express does just THAT!!!!) if you want to type 1234567~.DOS then enter '1234567~[SPACE].DOS'. Regards, Ceri Hankey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de" To: Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 8:59 PM Subject: RE: serious VNC BUG!!!!! > Sorry, but this is not reproduceable in my environs. > Diacritical characters generally do not appear on the first > keyclick but double on a second keyclick. This is normal because > diacritical characters wait for the (next) character they should > appear above, below or whatever. Hence, if there's no character > such as an "e" which can carry a circumflex the two characters > will be put out in sequence thus the first keyclick on circumflex > displays nothing an the second will display evoke "^^". > Upon this post I've tested this in windows to windows and windows > to linux and have not observed the "BUG" phenomenon, rather > regular behaviour as described above. One reason for this to > occur one could reason is incompatible keyboard mapping on > the Linux and Windows side > Dietmar > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Clemens Resanka > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 8:14 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: serious VNC BUG!!!!! > > > Hi all, > > Meanwhile I've tried it on several machines and the problem seems to > appear everywhere. So imho this definetly is a bug in VNC. TightVNC > has the same problem. > > You should be able to reproduce the problem easily: > - In Win2000 Control Panel/Keyboard/InputLocales select the keyboard > layout German or German(IBM) > > - Under Linux (only tried 2.4.x kernels, several distributions) start > a vncserver > > - Under Windows start a vnc viewer and connect to the linux box. > > - In VNC press the key left to the 1 key, right above the tab key on > your keyboard. On the german keyboard, this is where the cirumflex > letter is. > > Instead of one circumflex character, two of these ^^ appear. > In any other windows-application this does not appear so in my eyes, > this has to be a bug in VNC. > > > So far.. > > - Clemens - > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Sat Sep 29 11:51:47 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 10:51:47 +0000 Subject: serious VNC BUG!!!!! In-Reply-To: <005d01c1487b$c26523b0$6764a8c0@ceri4> Message-ID: ...And this is exactly who it should be - except for the fact that on a DE keyboard "~" [tilde] should not be diacritical/non-spacing but straight ascii which is called by alt_ctrl. On a DE (not swiss DE) keyboard only accutus "4" gravis "`" and circumflex "^" are ususally non-spacing/ diacritical to put them on top of e.g. "E/e" and "A/a". To get one single non-spacing character you would strike SPACE after that character exactly as described below. The same applies to non-spacing characters on French/swiss German (e.g. cedilla), Latin, Polish etc keyboards. This is because the keyboard chip/locales do not allow for all character to be displayed below or on top of a non-spacer such as "^". ^p doesn't work but j/J and b/B. Dietmar -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Ceri Hankey Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 2:10 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: serious VNC BUG!!!!! Ihave noticed this in SOME Windows applications as well as in Linux. I have found that the answer seems to be to type a SPACE after the first diacritical character if that is all you want to see eg (And I have just found that Outlook Express does just THAT!!!!) if you want to type 1234567~.DOS then enter '1234567~[SPACE].DOS'. Regards, Ceri Hankey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de" To: Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 8:59 PM Subject: RE: serious VNC BUG!!!!! > Sorry, but this is not reproduceable in my environs. > Diacritical characters generally do not appear on the first > keyclick but double on a second keyclick. This is normal because > diacritical characters wait for the (next) character they should > appear above, below or whatever. Hence, if there's no character > such as an "e" which can carry a circumflex the two characters > will be put out in sequence thus the first keyclick on circumflex > displays nothing an the second will display evoke "^^". > Upon this post I've tested this in windows to windows and windows > to linux and have not observed the "BUG" phenomenon, rather > regular behaviour as described above. One reason for this to > occur one could reason is incompatible keyboard mapping on > the Linux and Windows side > Dietmar > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Clemens Resanka > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 8:14 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: serious VNC BUG!!!!! > > > Hi all, > > Meanwhile I've tried it on several machines and the problem seems to > appear everywhere. So imho this definetly is a bug in VNC. TightVNC > has the same problem. > > You should be able to reproduce the problem easily: > - In Win2000 Control Panel/Keyboard/InputLocales select the keyboard > layout German or German(IBM) > > - Under Linux (only tried 2.4.x kernels, several distributions) start > a vncserver > > - Under Windows start a vnc viewer and connect to the linux box. > > - In VNC press the key left to the 1 key, right above the tab key on > your keyboard. On the german keyboard, this is where the cirumflex > letter is. > > Instead of one circumflex character, two of these ^^ appear. > In any other windows-application this does not appear so in my eyes, > this has to be a bug in VNC. > > > So far.. > > - Clemens - > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Sat Sep 29 12:14:46 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 11:14:46 +0000 Subject: VNC and Zonealarm In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Seb, I've installed zonealarm vnc and tight vnc stuff. I don't observe this problem. The difference however might be that I've installed the latest version of zonealarm a f t e r I had vnc installed Maybe its worth a quick try to uninstall zonealarm and re install it. That's not reasoning but it may help Dietmar -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Seb Wills Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 5:08 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: VNC and Zonealarm I use VNC between two machines on a LAN (the client being a Win98 machine). Normally, VNC is highly responsive, and can do a full screen refresh in less than a second. If I enable ZoneAlarm (a free personal firewall which seems to be generally fairly highly regarded) on the client machine, VNC becomes unusably slow - it can barely keep up with moving the cursor around, and a full refresh takes 10s of seconds. Initially I assumed ZoneAlarm must just slow down all traffic a heck of a lot. But if I FTP a 5Mb file between two local machines, ZoneAlarm makes negligible difference to the transfer rate (433k/s instead of 466k/s). Can anyone suggest why ZoneAlarm is particularly affecting VNC performance and how to get round this (other than turning off ZoneAlarm when I use VNC)? Thanks seb --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Sat Sep 29 15:50:06 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 14:50:06 +0000 Subject: VNC and Zonealarm Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04E5D@QMAIL> Although I personally haven't used ZoneAlarm, a general suggestion is that VNC (and most "remote control" apps) are fairly processor/RAM intensive. By the description, I'm assuming the Win98 box has VNC and ZoneAlarm. I would suggest finding a shareware prog that will let you monitor CPU/RAM usage (they exist, just can't remember a name off-hand), and then try it with ZoneAlarm enabled/disabled. My hunch is that ZoneAlarm is simply putting the processor "over the edge" in terms of usage, as it's examining every packet that leaves/enters the box. -----Original Message----- From: Seb Wills [mailto:saw27@mrao.cam.ac.uk] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:08 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: VNC and Zonealarm I use VNC between two machines on a LAN (the client being a Win98 machine). Normally, VNC is highly responsive, and can do a full screen refresh in less than a second. If I enable ZoneAlarm (a free personal firewall which seems to be generally fairly highly regarded) on the client machine, VNC becomes unusably slow - it can barely keep up with moving the cursor around, and a full refresh takes 10s of seconds. Initially I assumed ZoneAlarm must just slow down all traffic a heck of a lot. But if I FTP a 5Mb file between two local machines, ZoneAlarm makes negligible difference to the transfer rate (433k/s instead of 466k/s). Can anyone suggest why ZoneAlarm is particularly affecting VNC performance and how to get round this (other than turning off ZoneAlarm when I use VNC)? Thanks seb --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From clemens@bigfoot.com Sun Sep 30 10:45:18 2001 From: clemens@bigfoot.com (Clemens Resanka) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 09:45:18 +0000 Subject: serious VNC BUG!!!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi! I don't even see a way to produce an e with a circumflex. As soon as I press the key once, two ^^ appear. Which keymaps do you recomend? I tried all of /usr/lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwertz/de* on linux and on Windows "German" and "German (IBM)". At Fri, 28 Sep 2001 20:59:51 +0200, Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de wrote: > > Sorry, but this is not reproduceable in my environs. > Diacritical characters generally do not appear on the first > keyclick but double on a second keyclick. This is normal because > diacritical characters wait for the (next) character they should > appear above, below or whatever. Hence, if there's no character > such as an "e" which can carry a circumflex the two characters > will be put out in sequence thus the first keyclick on circumflex > displays nothing an the second will display evoke "^^". > Upon this post I've tested this in windows to windows and windows > to linux and have not observed the "BUG" phenomenon, rather > regular behaviour as described above. One reason for this to > occur one could reason is incompatible keyboard mapping on > the Linux and Windows side > Dietmar > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Clemens Resanka > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 8:14 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: serious VNC BUG!!!!! > > > Hi all, > > Meanwhile I've tried it on several machines and the problem seems to > appear everywhere. So imho this definetly is a bug in VNC. TightVNC > has the same problem. > > You should be able to reproduce the problem easily: > - In Win2000 Control Panel/Keyboard/InputLocales select the keyboard > layout German or German(IBM) > > - Under Linux (only tried 2.4.x kernels, several distributions) start > a vncserver > > - Under Windows start a vnc viewer and connect to the linux box. > > - In VNC press the key left to the 1 key, right above the tab key on > your keyboard. On the german keyboard, this is where the cirumflex > letter is. > > Instead of one circumflex character, two of these ^^ appear. > In any other windows-application this does not appear so in my eyes, > this has to be a bug in VNC. > > > So far.. > > - Clemens - > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > So far.. - Clemens - --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From saw27@mrao.cam.ac.uk Sun Sep 30 15:33:23 2001 From: saw27@mrao.cam.ac.uk (Seb Wills) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 14:33:23 +0000 Subject: VNC and Zonealarm In-Reply-To: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04E5D@QMAIL> Message-ID: Thanks for the suggestion. I don't think that's what's going on though - I examined CPU/RAM usage. While doing a VNC screen refresh with zonealarm enabled there is still tons of free RAM and the CPU was always at least 60% idle (the ZoneAlarm processes took about 8% CPU and VNC about 15%). So it doesn't seem to be overstretching the CPU at all. Without zonealarm running VNC only consumed slightly higher % CPU (less than 20%). seb On Sat, 29 Sep 2001, Glenn Mabbutt wrote: > Although I personally haven't used ZoneAlarm, a general suggestion is that > VNC (and most "remote control" apps) are fairly processor/RAM intensive. By > the description, I'm assuming the Win98 box has VNC and ZoneAlarm. I would > suggest finding a shareware prog that will let you monitor CPU/RAM usage > (they exist, just can't remember a name off-hand), and then try it with > ZoneAlarm enabled/disabled. My hunch is that ZoneAlarm is simply putting > the processor "over the edge" in terms of usage, as it's examining every > packet that leaves/enters the box. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Seb Wills [mailto:saw27@mrao.cam.ac.uk] > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:08 AM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: VNC and Zonealarm > > > I use VNC between two machines on a LAN (the client being a Win98 > machine). Normally, VNC is highly responsive, and can do a full screen > refresh in less than a second. > > If I enable ZoneAlarm (a free personal firewall which seems to be > generally fairly highly regarded) on the client machine, VNC becomes > unusably slow - it can barely keep up with moving the cursor around, and a > full refresh takes 10s of seconds. > > Initially I assumed ZoneAlarm must just slow down all traffic a heck of a > lot. But if I FTP a 5Mb file between two local machines, ZoneAlarm makes > negligible difference to the transfer rate (433k/s instead of 466k/s). > > Can anyone suggest why ZoneAlarm is particularly affecting VNC performance > and how to get round this (other than turning off ZoneAlarm when I use > VNC)? > > Thanks > > seb > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@uk.research.att.com with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------