From John_Roland_Elliott@Hotmail.com Sat Sep 1 00:14:03 2001 From: John_Roland_Elliott@Hotmail.com (John Roland Elliott) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 23:14:03 +0000 Subject: Undocumented port in use by VNCviewer in Listen Mode? References: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E511267D@CFJH> Message-ID: Roy, Pete, Zoran, Zalman, and all --- Thanks for considering my poorly posed question and thanks for your theories. Let me try my question again, a little more precisely and completely stated this time. The FAQ (http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/faq.html#q52) states, and I have observed, that the VNC server listens on port 5900+n (where n is the "display number") and that when the VNC viewer initiates a session with the server, it does so through that port. The FAQ (http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/faq.html#q52) states, and I have observed, that the VNC server listens on port 5800+n (where n is the "display number") and, on that port, answers as a minimalist web server which delivers the java implementation of the VNC viewer. Once the (java) VNC viewer is delivered to the machine that is to act as viewer, the java VNC viewer communicates with the VNC server through port 5900+n, just like the non-java VNC viewer. Ports 5900+n and 5800+n are open on machines running a VNC server (WinVNC, e.g.) and the (java or non-java) VNC viewer connects only to 5900+n. 5800+n is used only to fetch the java viewer (vncviewer.class in vncviewer.jar) from the machine running the VNC server. It is my understanding that the viewer, once it is loaded, regardless of how it is loaded, communicates with the server through the server's port 5900+n. I don't think that 5800+n is used as a control channel, or anything other than fetching the java client. I conclude this by configuring a firewall that defends the machine running the VNC server. When I configure it to drop inbound traffic on port 5800 I can successfully establish a VNC session from the other side of the firewall using the non-java VNC viewer. Further, I conducted the following experiment: 1) on the firewall between my viewer and server, I enabled 5800 (for loading the java VNC viewer) and disabled 5900 going from viewer to server 2) from my favorite java-capable web browser, I went to http://myVNCserver:5800 and got the VNC authentication page asking for a VNC password 3) at that point, I reconfigured my firewall to disable 5800 (the viewer is already loaded in the virtual machine of the machine that is to be viewer) and enable 5900 (so that the viewer could do something constructive) going from viewer to server 4) back at my web browser, which was still displaying the VNC authentication page, I entered the VNC password and established a session (without access to 5800 on the server but with 5900 on the server accessible) This experiment convinced me that a) 5800 is necessary and sufficient to load the java VNC viewer (i.e., 5900 is not needed for *loading* and *starting* the java VNC viewer) and b) 5900 is necessary and sufficient for the (java) VNC viewer (i.e., 5800 is not needed for *running* the VNC viewer, even the java one). I stress that 5800+n and 5900+n are VNC server ports. Those ports are not open on the VNC viewer machine (unless it is also running VNC server.) The FAQ (http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/faq.html#q52) states, and I have observed, that the VNC viewer (not server) listens on port 5500. When, from a VNC server, you "Add New Client", the server initiates a session with the viewer through the viewer's port 5500. In this mode of operation, the viewer does not use the server's 5900+n, which would have been used if the viewer had initiated the connection; I suspect, but I haven't confirmed, that the server continues to talk to the viewer's port 5500 and the viewer talks to the port that the server opened in order to call the viewer. So, I think I understand 5500, 5800+n, and 5900+n, but I'm still mystified by 5400. What I know is: 1) it is created on the viewer machine when I "Run VNCviewer (Listen Mode)" 2) it is destroyed on the viewer machine when I "Close listening daemon" 3) it is unused (or at least not required) during the conventional operation (viewer initiates the connection) 4) it is unused (or at least not required) by the java VNC viewer What I would like to know is does it serve any function whatsoever. In exchange for this knowledge I am prepared to offer my eternal gratitude and undying devotion. I really don't want to have to try to read the source (what is it? ... Object Oriented COBOL? ... "ADD-1-TO-COBOL-GIVING-COBOL"?) Regards, JRE P.S. One last clue: If, on the machine that has "Run VNCviewer (Listen Mode)", I go to http://localhost:5400, briefly, in maybe 36-point text, I see "plication/vnd.ms-excel, applica" at the top of the screen. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zalman Margareten" To: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 12:39 PM Subject: RE: Undocumented port in use by VNCviewer in Listen Mode? > Are u trying to imply that it will establish the connection with port 5400 > and then hand it over to 5500? I can understand this with the "regular" > connection that is initiated from the viewer where it will send a sync to > 5800 and then establish a connection with 5900. But how do u explain it with > the "listener" method where it starts with 5500 according to my ( netstat -n > readings )? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roy Long [mailto:roy@ncitech.com] > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 9:46 AM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: Undocumented port in use by VNCviewer in Listen Mode? > > > >The documentation indicates that VNCviewer in Listen Mode uses port 5500. > It > >appears that when I start VNCviewer in Listen Mode, my machine also listens > >on port 5400, at least my Windows 2000 machine does. After stopping Listen > >Mode, both 5500 and 5400 are closed. I have set my firewall to block 5400 > >and allow 5500 and it seems to continue to work. > > > >As port 5400 is associated with the Blade Runner Trojan, I was a little > >alarmed to discover it open on one of my machines. > > > >Can anyone provide any illumination on the subject of VNC's use of port > >5400? > > I believe 5400 is the java web browser port for the viewer, just like > 5800 works for the java web browser port on the "normal" VNC server. > -- > Roy Long - KB3CZD > Computer Technician > NCI Technologies > 126 N. 2nd Street > Philipsburg PA 16866 > > roy@ncitech.com > > > > > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > Version: 3.12 > GO@ d-@ s: a- C++ C--- U+++ P+ L++>$ E--- W+ N+ w > M++$ PS PE+ PGP+ t+ 5 X R- tv b+ DI++ D G h--- r+++ y--(+++) > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ccah@thegreen.co.uk Sat Sep 1 01:02:33 2001 From: ccah@thegreen.co.uk (Ceri Hankey) Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 00:02:33 +0000 Subject: SOCKS 5 support added to Win32 VNC Viewer References: <20010829203929.44975.qmail@web20303.mail.yahoo.com> <3B8D8BC1.11D52F86@Seanster.com> <000e01c131a6$a6294820$6764a8c0@ceri4> <7k1uotc5eispmh9b65ked80aij1ch3dl5a@4ax.com> Message-ID: <005001c13270$69c7c3f0$6764a8c0@ceri4> Sorry, but my proxy server tells me for the nth time ... Error : Can't connect to host www.google.com on port 80! Reason : Connect timeout. Error detected by WinProxy 1.4 If you can mail it to me at ceri_hankey@wanadoo.fr Thank you very much! Regards Ceri Hankey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Seanster" To: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 5:57 AM Subject: Re: SOCKS 5 support added to Win32 VNC Viewer > Just a brief net outage. I can mail it if anyone has trouble beyond that. > -Sean > > > On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 00:51:38 +0200, you wrote: > > >I cannot get thru to your site ... > >http://www.Seanster.com/vnc/ > > > >Can you give another source for your stuff? > > > >Thanks > > > >Ceri Hankey > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spencer@silcom.com Sat Sep 1 02:24:03 2001 From: spencer@silcom.com (spencer) Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 01:24:03 +0000 Subject: VNC NTServer VPN Message-ID: <000001c1327b$4fbc9610$64c8690a@Carola> I am trying to use VNC to access a Windows NT Server (Backup Domain Controller, BDC). I am accessing the BDC via an all Microsoft VPN. I have RAS on the Server and use the PPTP protocol to connect. I can connect to the server (and have been doing this for some time now). Here is my setup. Corporate- NT Server, BDC running behind a Linksys BEFSR41 nat router. Public IP on the Wan side of the Linksys router. Forwarding ports 80, 25, 110, and 1723 (for Linksys to work with VPN) to the 192.168.xxx.xxx NT BDC. Remote- NT Workstation, running behind a Linksys BEFSR41 nat router, dynamic public IP (which has not changed in months). The Problem: I have loaded WinVNC onto that server and can use the Win 98 client viewer while on the local LAN. However, when on the remote NT Workstation I can successfully connect to Corporate, but I cannot successfully run the WinNT VNC client. I can enter the IP address of the remote machine, I get prompted for a password and the remote screen initiates, then turns all black, and then shuts down. Question: Has anyone successfully connected VNC via a VPN tunnel of any type, and specifically the type described above. Thank you in advance. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From martin.sarter@web.de Sat Sep 1 18:36:45 2001 From: martin.sarter@web.de (Martin Sarter) Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 17:36:45 +0000 Subject: KDE again In-Reply-To: <001b01c12f87$4fa21fc0$0100000a@home.net> Message-ID: Hi, I searched the archive, watched the mailing list for several weeks, followed the usual hints (modifying xsetup, setting -depth to the appropriate) but KDE still isn't working with VNC. All I get is a vncviewer window with a konsole and the KDE background color but no icons, no background image, no task bar, no window elements to the konsole. I have SuSE 7.1 running. Any hints? Martin. Here's the log: --------------------------------- 01/09/01 17:02:51 Xvnc version 3.3.3r1 01/09/01 17:02:51 Copyright (C) AT&T Laboratories Cambridge. 01/09/01 17:02:51 All Rights Reserved. 01/09/01 17:02:51 See http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc for information on VNC 01/09/01 17:02:51 Desktop name 'X' (linux:1) 01/09/01 17:02:51 Protocol version supported 3.3 01/09/01 17:02:51 Listening for VNC connections on TCP port 5901 01/09/01 17:02:51 Listening for HTTP connections on TCP port 5801 01/09/01 17:02:51 URL http://linux:5801 --------------------------------- It looks like dcopserver is already running. If you are sure that it is not already running, remove /root/.DCOPserver_linux and start dcopserver again. --------------------------------- kdesktop is already running! KDE Daemon (kded) already running. Could not load library! Trying exec.... Launched ok, pid = 1011 Server has no DPMS extension There are already artsd objects registered, looking if they are active... ERROR: kicker is already running! klipper is already running! Error: Can't add object reference (probably artsd is already running). If you are sure it is not already running, remove the relevant files: /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_SimpleSoundServer /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_PlayObjectFactory /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_AudioManager kwrited is already running.ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error! QSocketNotifier: Multiple socket notifiers for same socket 6 and type read 01/09/01 17:04:15 Got connection from client 127.0.0.1 01/09/01 17:04:16 Protocol version 3.3 01/09/01 17:04:22 Pixel format for client 127.0.0.1: 01/09/01 17:04:22 32 bpp, depth 24, little endian 01/09/01 17:04:22 true colour: max r 255 g 255 b 255, shift r 16 g 8 b 0 01/09/01 17:04:22 Using raw encoding for client 127.0.0.1 --------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From petasis@iit.demokritos.gr Sat Sep 1 18:53:04 2001 From: petasis@iit.demokritos.gr (Georgios Petasis) Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 17:53:04 +0000 Subject: KDE again References: Message-ID: <002701c13305$7ccf54a0$0103e98f@aias> That is very strange. I use both KDE 1.x and 2.x under VNC in both solaris and linux with no problems. I will suggest that you kill your VNC server, kill all KDE processes, start a new VNC server without loading anything in it, set the proper display variable and type "startkde". What is then happening? Make sure that nothing is run in the server before you run startkde, not even a window manager... George > Hi, > > I searched the archive, watched the mailing list for several weeks, followed > the usual hints (modifying xsetup, setting -depth to the appropriate) but > KDE still isn't working with VNC. All I get is a vncviewer window with a > konsole and the KDE background color but no icons, no background image, no > task bar, no window elements to the konsole. I have SuSE 7.1 running. > > Any hints? > > Martin. > > Here's the log: > --------------------------------- > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Xvnc version 3.3.3r1 > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Copyright (C) AT&T Laboratories Cambridge. > 01/09/01 17:02:51 All Rights Reserved. > 01/09/01 17:02:51 See http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc for information on > VNC > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Desktop name 'X' (linux:1) > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Protocol version supported 3.3 > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Listening for VNC connections on TCP port 5901 > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Listening for HTTP connections on TCP port 5801 > 01/09/01 17:02:51 URL http://linux:5801 > --------------------------------- > It looks like dcopserver is already running. If you are sure > that it is not already running, remove /root/.DCOPserver_linux > and start dcopserver again. > --------------------------------- > > kdesktop is already running! > KDE Daemon (kded) already running. > Could not load library! Trying exec.... > Launched ok, pid = 1011 > Server has no DPMS extension > There are already artsd objects registered, looking if they are active... > ERROR: kicker is already running! > klipper is already running! > > Error: Can't add object reference (probably artsd is already running). > If you are sure it is not already running, remove the relevant files: > > /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_SimpleSoundServer > /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_PlayObjectFactory > /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_AudioManager > > kwrited is already running.ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication > error! > QSocketNotifier: Multiple socket notifiers for same socket 6 and type read > > 01/09/01 17:04:15 Got connection from client 127.0.0.1 > 01/09/01 17:04:16 Protocol version 3.3 > 01/09/01 17:04:22 Pixel format for client 127.0.0.1: > 01/09/01 17:04:22 32 bpp, depth 24, little endian > 01/09/01 17:04:22 true colour: max r 255 g 255 b 255, shift r 16 g 8 b 0 > 01/09/01 17:04:22 Using raw encoding for client 127.0.0.1 > --------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sczjd@yahoo.com Sat Sep 1 20:05:45 2001 From: sczjd@yahoo.com (SI Reasoning) Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 19:05:45 +0000 Subject: KDE again In-Reply-To: <002701c13305$7ccf54a0$0103e98f@aias> Message-ID: <20010901180055.13660.qmail@web9503.mail.yahoo.com> I had to set the default color to 24 instead of 8 to get kde programs to work properly. I did it by editing /usr/bin/vncserver. --- Georgios Petasis wrote: > That is very strange. I use both KDE 1.x and 2.x > under VNC in both > solaris and linux with no problems. > I will suggest that you kill your VNC server, > kill all KDE processes, start a new VNC server > without loading anything > in it, set the proper display variable and type > "startkde". > What is then happening? > Make sure that nothing is run in the server before > you run startkde, > not even a window manager... > > George > > > Hi, > > > > I searched the archive, watched the mailing list > for several weeks, > followed > > the usual hints (modifying xsetup, setting -depth > to the appropriate) but > > KDE still isn't working with VNC. All I get is a > vncviewer window with a > > konsole and the KDE background color but no icons, > no background image, no > > task bar, no window elements to the konsole. I > have SuSE 7.1 running. > > > > Any hints? > > > > Martin. > > > > Here's the log: > > --------------------------------- > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Xvnc version 3.3.3r1 > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Copyright (C) AT&T Laboratories > Cambridge. > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 All Rights Reserved. > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 See > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc for information > on > > VNC > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Desktop name 'X' (linux:1) > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Protocol version supported 3.3 > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Listening for VNC connections on > TCP port 5901 > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Listening for HTTP connections > on TCP port 5801 > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 URL http://linux:5801 > > --------------------------------- > > It looks like dcopserver is already running. If > you are sure > > that it is not already running, remove > /root/.DCOPserver_linux > > and start dcopserver again. > > --------------------------------- > > > > kdesktop is already running! > > KDE Daemon (kded) already running. > > Could not load library! Trying exec.... > > Launched ok, pid = 1011 > > Server has no DPMS extension > > There are already artsd objects registered, > looking if they are active... > > ERROR: kicker is already running! > > klipper is already running! > > > > Error: Can't add object reference (probably artsd > is already running). > > If you are sure it is not already running, > remove the relevant > files: > > > > /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_SimpleSoundServer > > /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_PlayObjectFactory > > /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_AudioManager > > > > kwrited is already running.ERROR: > KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication > > error! > > QSocketNotifier: Multiple socket notifiers for > same socket 6 and type read > > > > 01/09/01 17:04:15 Got connection from client > 127.0.0.1 > > 01/09/01 17:04:16 Protocol version 3.3 > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 Pixel format for client > 127.0.0.1: > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 32 bpp, depth 24, little > endian > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 true colour: max r 255 g 255 b > 255, shift r 16 g 8 b 0 > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 Using raw encoding for client > 127.0.0.1 > > --------------------------------- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== SI Reasoning sczjd@yahoo.com gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sbest@best.com Sun Sep 2 04:33:14 2001 From: sbest@best.com (Scott C. Best) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 03:33:14 +0000 Subject: New user In-Reply-To: Message-ID: David: Hello! I like these easy ones. :) You cannot connect to the LAN from *outside* of the LAN because of the security provided by the device which is connecting that LAN to the Internet. Sometimes called a firewall/router, sometimes called a gateway, sometimes it's part of the DSL/Cable modem itself. Those things do (amoung other things) something called Network Address Translation, a process specified by RFC-1918. That address range you mention, 192.168.x.y is called a "private address range". So, as a packet travels from a network device to the Internet, the gateway device tranlates it into a "real", world routable IP address assigned by your ISP. So to connect to a VNC server behind one of these gateways, you have to point to this "external IP address", not the 192.168.x.y one. Write back with what sorta gateway device you're using and we can help more! -Scott > I have got WinVNC 3.3.3R9 running on my home network, between my old > computer and my new one. It links fine through my network cards and a > coaxial cable. > > I have now taken my old computer to a friends house and connected it to his > phone line, but I cannot now dial into it from my new computer at home. Nor > can he dial into my computer from there. I seem to have got all the > settings right, but when it dials his number, and it answers, my old > computer does not pick up the signal. What am I doing wrong? I am > searching on the IP number, which is 192.168.0.2 for the old computer and > 192.168.0.1 for the new computer, which works fine on the home network > through the cable connection but I have never got it working through a modem > connection. How do I ping the old computer? How do I telnet, whatever that > is? > > Similarly, I have set up a network of 5 PCs for a client in Birmingham, > which happily use Winvnc to communicate with each other. But I cannot dial > into their system from here, even though I have set up their system to allow > me to do so. > > Any ideas? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spencer@silcom.com Sun Sep 2 17:00:30 2001 From: spencer@silcom.com (spencer) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 16:00:30 +0000 Subject: New user References: Message-ID: <003c01c133bf$14edbf60$64c8690a@Carola> Scott, I have a similar issue as stated below. Do you have any suggestions? I am trying to use VNC to access a Windows NT Server (Backup Domain Controller, BDC). I am accessing the BDC via an all Microsoft VPN. I have RAS on the Server and use the PPTP protocol to connect. I can connect to the server (and have been doing this for some time now). Here is my setup. Corporate- NT Server, BDC running behind a Linksys BEFSR41 nat router. Public IP on the Wan side of the Linksys router. Forwarding ports 80, 25, 110, and 1723 (for Linksys to work with VPN) to the 192.168.xxx.xxx NT BDC. Remote- NT Workstation, running behind a Linksys BEFSR41 nat router, dynamic public IP (which has not changed in months). The Problem: I have loaded WinVNC onto that server and can use the Win 98 client viewer while on the local LAN. However, when on the remote NT Workstation I can successfully connect to Corporate, but I cannot successfully run the WinNT VNC client. I can enter the IP address of the remote machine, I get prompted for a password and the remote screen initiates, then turns all black, and then shuts down. Question: Has anyone successfully connected VNC via a VPN tunnel of any type, and specifically the type described above. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott C. Best" To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 7:24 PM Subject: Re: New user > David: > Hello! I like these easy ones. :) You cannot > connect to the LAN from *outside* of the LAN because > of the security provided by the device which is > connecting that LAN to the Internet. Sometimes called > a firewall/router, sometimes called a gateway, sometimes > it's part of the DSL/Cable modem itself. > Those things do (amoung other things) something > called Network Address Translation, a process specified > by RFC-1918. That address range you mention, 192.168.x.y > is called a "private address range". So, as a packet > travels from a network device to the Internet, the > gateway device tranlates it into a "real", world > routable IP address assigned by your ISP. > So to connect to a VNC server behind one of these > gateways, you have to point to this "external IP address", > not the 192.168.x.y one. Write back with what sorta gateway > device you're using and we can help more! > > -Scott > > > I have got WinVNC 3.3.3R9 running on my home network, between my old > > computer and my new one. It links fine through my network cards and a > > coaxial cable. > > > > I have now taken my old computer to a friends house and connected it to his > > phone line, but I cannot now dial into it from my new computer at home. Nor > > can he dial into my computer from there. I seem to have got all the > > settings right, but when it dials his number, and it answers, my old > > computer does not pick up the signal. What am I doing wrong? I am > > searching on the IP number, which is 192.168.0.2 for the old computer and > > 192.168.0.1 for the new computer, which works fine on the home network > > through the cable connection but I have never got it working through a modem > > connection. How do I ping the old computer? How do I telnet, whatever that > > is? > > > > Similarly, I have set up a network of 5 PCs for a client in Birmingham, > > which happily use Winvnc to communicate with each other. But I cannot dial > > into their system from here, even though I have set up their system to allow > > me to do so. > > > > Any ideas? > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From martin.sarter@web.de Sun Sep 2 19:54:14 2001 From: martin.sarter@web.de (Martin Sarter) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 18:54:14 +0000 Subject: KDE again In-Reply-To: <20010901180055.13660.qmail@web9503.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi, >I had to set the default color to 24 instead of 8 First modification I made. I can set -depth to 24 or 32, makes no difference. Martin. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of SI Reasoning > Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 8:01 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: KDE again > > > I had to set the default color to 24 instead of 8 to > get kde programs to work properly. I did it by editing > /usr/bin/vncserver. > --- Georgios Petasis > wrote: > > That is very strange. I use both KDE 1.x and 2.x > > under VNC in both > > solaris and linux with no problems. > > I will suggest that you kill your VNC server, > > kill all KDE processes, start a new VNC server > > without loading anything > > in it, set the proper display variable and type > > "startkde". > > What is then happening? > > Make sure that nothing is run in the server before > > you run startkde, > > not even a window manager... > > > > George > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I searched the archive, watched the mailing list > > for several weeks, > > followed > > > the usual hints (modifying xsetup, setting -depth > > to the appropriate) but > > > KDE still isn't working with VNC. All I get is a > > vncviewer window with a > > > konsole and the KDE background color but no icons, > > no background image, no > > > task bar, no window elements to the konsole. I > > have SuSE 7.1 running. > > > > > > Any hints? > > > > > > Martin. > > > > > > Here's the log: > > > --------------------------------- > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Xvnc version 3.3.3r1 > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Copyright (C) AT&T Laboratories > > Cambridge. > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 All Rights Reserved. > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 See > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc for information > > on > > > VNC > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Desktop name 'X' (linux:1) > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Protocol version supported 3.3 > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Listening for VNC connections on > > TCP port 5901 > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Listening for HTTP connections > > on TCP port 5801 > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 URL http://linux:5801 > > > --------------------------------- > > > It looks like dcopserver is already running. If > > you are sure > > > that it is not already running, remove > > /root/.DCOPserver_linux > > > and start dcopserver again. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > kdesktop is already running! > > > KDE Daemon (kded) already running. > > > Could not load library! Trying exec.... > > > Launched ok, pid = 1011 > > > Server has no DPMS extension > > > There are already artsd objects registered, > > looking if they are active... > > > ERROR: kicker is already running! > > > klipper is already running! > > > > > > Error: Can't add object reference (probably artsd > > is already running). > > > If you are sure it is not already running, > > remove the relevant > > files: > > > > > > /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_SimpleSoundServer > > > /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_PlayObjectFactory > > > /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_AudioManager > > > > > > kwrited is already running.ERROR: > > KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication > > > error! > > > QSocketNotifier: Multiple socket notifiers for > > same socket 6 and type read > > > > > > 01/09/01 17:04:15 Got connection from client > > 127.0.0.1 > > > 01/09/01 17:04:16 Protocol version 3.3 > > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 Pixel format for client > > 127.0.0.1: > > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 32 bpp, depth 24, little > > endian > > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 true colour: max r 255 g 255 b > > 255, shift r 16 g 8 b 0 > > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 Using raw encoding for client > > 127.0.0.1 > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > > unsubscribe vnc-list > > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > > See also: > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > > unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ===== > SI Reasoning > sczjd@yahoo.com > gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! > Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From martin.sarter@web.de Sun Sep 2 19:54:17 2001 From: martin.sarter@web.de (Martin Sarter) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 18:54:17 +0000 Subject: KDE again In-Reply-To: <002701c13305$7ccf54a0$0103e98f@aias> Message-ID: Hi, > kill all KDE processes Killing KDE is killing X but I can login with twm or whatever, okay. >start a new VNC server without loading anything in it You mean nothing but a window manager like twm? >type "startkde". What is then happening? KDE is starting up. But still I can run only one KDE. When I try to start another KDE in a new vncserver the same DCOP error shows up (DCOP server, kdesktop etc. already running! DCOP communication error!). Since I have to work on the linux machine where the vncserver is running I need a KDE on both the vncserver and the vncviewer machines. I know this is a KDE rather than a Xvnc problem but still I hope to find a solution within this mailing list. Martin. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Georgios Petasis > Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 6:45 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: KDE again > > > That is very strange. I use both KDE 1.x and 2.x under VNC in both > solaris and linux with no problems. > I will suggest that you kill your VNC server, > kill all KDE processes, start a new VNC server without loading anything > in it, set the proper display variable and type "startkde". > What is then happening? > Make sure that nothing is run in the server before you run startkde, > not even a window manager... > > George > > > Hi, > > > > I searched the archive, watched the mailing list for several weeks, > followed > > the usual hints (modifying xsetup, setting -depth to the > appropriate) but > > KDE still isn't working with VNC. All I get is a vncviewer window with a > > konsole and the KDE background color but no icons, no > background image, no > > task bar, no window elements to the konsole. I have SuSE 7.1 running. > > > > Any hints? > > > > Martin. > > > > Here's the log: > > --------------------------------- > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Xvnc version 3.3.3r1 > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Copyright (C) AT&T Laboratories Cambridge. > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 All Rights Reserved. > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 See http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc for information > on > > VNC > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Desktop name 'X' (linux:1) > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Protocol version supported 3.3 > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Listening for VNC connections on TCP port 5901 > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Listening for HTTP connections on TCP port 5801 > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 URL http://linux:5801 > > --------------------------------- > > It looks like dcopserver is already running. If you are sure > > that it is not already running, remove /root/.DCOPserver_linux > > and start dcopserver again. > > --------------------------------- > > > > kdesktop is already running! > > KDE Daemon (kded) already running. > > Could not load library! Trying exec.... > > Launched ok, pid = 1011 > > Server has no DPMS extension > > There are already artsd objects registered, looking if they are > active... > > ERROR: kicker is already running! > > klipper is already running! > > > > Error: Can't add object reference (probably artsd is already running). > > If you are sure it is not already running, remove the relevant > files: > > > > /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_SimpleSoundServer > > /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_PlayObjectFactory > > /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_AudioManager > > > > kwrited is already running.ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication > > error! > > QSocketNotifier: Multiple socket notifiers for same socket 6 > and type read > > > > 01/09/01 17:04:15 Got connection from client 127.0.0.1 > > 01/09/01 17:04:16 Protocol version 3.3 > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 Pixel format for client 127.0.0.1: > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 32 bpp, depth 24, little endian > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 true colour: max r 255 g 255 b 255, shift r > 16 g 8 b 0 > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 Using raw encoding for client 127.0.0.1 > > --------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From maillist@devilsplayground.net Sun Sep 2 20:03:45 2001 From: maillist@devilsplayground.net (Dave Warren) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 19:03:45 +0000 Subject: Undocumented port in use by VNCviewer in Listen Mode? References: <002301c13223$e2d8fcc0$1cbf4241@swbell.net> Message-ID: <003c01c133d9$20d60020$6b00a8c0@devilsplayground.net> But the original question was about running VNC *VIEWER* in listen mode, not running the server in listen mode. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete" To: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 7:50 AM Subject: Re: Undocumented port in use by VNCviewer in Listen Mode? > I've just run a VNC server on a system with a network monitor running and am > logged into it from a viewer over the network. > > I too see a second port open and listening, but in my case it's 5800. It > appears to simply be a control-connection. The only time I see any data > activity on that port is when a connection is established or disconnected. > > Hope that settles your fears. ======================================================== Dave Warren, devilsplayground.net administrator Email: dave.warren@devilsplayground.net ======================================================== --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From maillist@devilsplayground.net Sun Sep 2 20:03:50 2001 From: maillist@devilsplayground.net (Dave Warren) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 19:03:50 +0000 Subject: Win2k Locked Workstation References: Message-ID: <003b01c133d9$208b3b80$6b00a8c0@devilsplayground.net> In the viewer, click on the system menu (The little icon at the top left hand corner), there's an option to send control-alt-del to the server from there. Does that work? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Bosworth" To: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 12:21 PM Subject: Win2k Locked Workstation > I have a Win2k workstation at work and lock this station before I leave. At > home I have a Win98 system and using VNC 3.3r. I use the Web browser to > connect, but every time I enter my password, VNC automatically closes. If I > keep my workstation at work open and not locked, the connection gets through > no problem. Only when the Win2k system is locked does this problem arise. > I can connect through the normal Viewer but cannot send Ctl+Alt+Del through > this so it is useless to me. I need the browser.... ======================================================== Dave Warren, devilsplayground.net administrator Email: dave.warren@devilsplayground.net ======================================================== --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sczjd@yahoo.com Sun Sep 2 22:59:57 2001 From: sczjd@yahoo.com (SI Reasoning) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 21:59:57 +0000 Subject: KDE again In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010902205610.87355.qmail@web9503.mail.yahoo.com> from the server or the viewer? It has to be done by the server for KDE2 to work for me. --- Martin Sarter wrote: > Hi, > > >I had to set the default color to 24 instead of 8 > First modification I made. I can set -depth to 24 or > 32, makes no > difference. > > Martin. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On > Behalf Of SI Reasoning > > Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 8:01 PM > > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > Subject: Re: KDE again > > > > > > I had to set the default color to 24 instead of 8 > to > > get kde programs to work properly. I did it by > editing > > /usr/bin/vncserver. > > --- Georgios Petasis > > wrote: > > > That is very strange. I use both KDE 1.x and 2.x > > > under VNC in both > > > solaris and linux with no problems. > > > I will suggest that you kill your VNC server, > > > kill all KDE processes, start a new VNC server > > > without loading anything > > > in it, set the proper display variable and type > > > "startkde". > > > What is then happening? > > > Make sure that nothing is run in the server > before > > > you run startkde, > > > not even a window manager... > > > > > > George > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I searched the archive, watched the mailing > list > > > for several weeks, > > > followed > > > > the usual hints (modifying xsetup, setting > -depth > > > to the appropriate) but > > > > KDE still isn't working with VNC. All I get is > a > > > vncviewer window with a > > > > konsole and the KDE background color but no > icons, > > > no background image, no > > > > task bar, no window elements to the konsole. I > > > have SuSE 7.1 running. > > > > > > > > Any hints? > > > > > > > > Martin. > > > > > > > > Here's the log: > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Xvnc version 3.3.3r1 > > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Copyright (C) AT&T > Laboratories > > > Cambridge. > > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 All Rights Reserved. > > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 See > > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc for > information > > > on > > > > VNC > > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Desktop name 'X' (linux:1) > > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Protocol version supported > 3.3 > > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Listening for VNC > connections on > > > TCP port 5901 > > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 Listening for HTTP > connections > > > on TCP port 5801 > > > > 01/09/01 17:02:51 URL http://linux:5801 > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > It looks like dcopserver is already running. > If > > > you are sure > > > > that it is not already running, remove > > > /root/.DCOPserver_linux > > > > and start dcopserver again. > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > kdesktop is already running! > > > > KDE Daemon (kded) already running. > > > > Could not load library! Trying exec.... > > > > Launched ok, pid = 1011 > > > > Server has no DPMS extension > > > > There are already artsd objects registered, > > > looking if they are active... > > > > ERROR: kicker is already running! > > > > klipper is already running! > > > > > > > > Error: Can't add object reference (probably > artsd > > > is already running). > > > > If you are sure it is not already > running, > > > remove the relevant > > > files: > > > > > > > > /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_SimpleSoundServer > > > > /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_PlayObjectFactory > > > > /tmp/mcop-root/Arts_AudioManager > > > > > > > > kwrited is already running.ERROR: > > > KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication > > > > error! > > > > QSocketNotifier: Multiple socket notifiers for > > > same socket 6 and type read > > > > > > > > 01/09/01 17:04:15 Got connection from client > > > 127.0.0.1 > > > > 01/09/01 17:04:16 Protocol version 3.3 > > > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 Pixel format for client > > > 127.0.0.1: > > > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 32 bpp, depth 24, little > > > endian > > > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 true colour: max r 255 g > 255 b > > > 255, shift r 16 g 8 b 0 > > > > 01/09/01 17:04:22 Using raw encoding for > client > > > 127.0.0.1 > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > > > unsubscribe vnc-list > > > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > > > See also: > > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > > > unsubscribe vnc-list > > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > > See also: > > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ===== > > SI Reasoning > > sczjd@yahoo.com > > gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > messaging with Yahoo! > > Messenger > > http://im.yahoo.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== SI Reasoning sczjd@yahoo.com gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From karlheinz@khschulz.com Mon Sep 3 00:59:49 2001 From: karlheinz@khschulz.com (Karl-Heinz Schulz) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 23:59:49 +0000 Subject: Problem with VNC Viewer Message-ID: <000b01c13402$59fa0120$0b515d18@CHARLIELABTOP> Viewer is installed on Windows 2000 (with all patches installed) VNC Server is installed on Mandrake 8 (latest version available) Problem number 1 - kvm is not available on Mandrake when running Xfree 4.XX I have the following Windows Manager installed KDE Gnome Fvwm When starting the viewer I see only the grey start up screen The output of my xstartup file is as following bash-2.05$ more xstartup #!/bin/sh xrdb $HOME/.Xresources xsetroot -solid grey xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP Desktop" & fvwm & What am I missing? Thank you --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From const@ce.cctpu.edu.ru Mon Sep 3 01:21:23 2001 From: const@ce.cctpu.edu.ru (Const Kaplinsky) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 00:21:23 +0000 Subject: TightVNC crash on 6 of 16 NT servers In-Reply-To: <3B8FAB27.1F01E02@InvisibleRobot.com> References: <3B8FAB27.1F01E02@InvisibleRobot.com> Message-ID: Hello, >>>>> "EC" == Eric Carlson writes: EC> Two days ago I installed TightVNC 1.20 on 16 Windows NT 4.0/SP6a EC> servers in place of plain VNC 3.3.3r9. On 6 of the servers, when I EC> try to connect, TightVNC server gives a Dr. Watson error, and EC> stops working (I've tried both clients, with the same results). So EC> far, the other 10 servers are okay. EC> All of the servers will let me connect within a few minutes after EC> I boot them, but within the next hour or the next day, TightVNC EC> stops working. EC> I didn't have problems with the 3.3.3r9 server. EC> The servers each have different combinations of hardware, so the EC> problem doesn't appear to be caused by a specific piece of EC> hardware. EC> To install TightVNC, I replaced the old VNC files, and then EC> uninstalled and reinstalled the VNC service, and rebooted the EC> servers. EC> Should I switch all the servers back to 3.3.3r9, or is there EC> another solution? Did I install TightVNC incorrectly? I originally EC> installed VNC 3.3.3r9 with the install program. I have not seen crashes with latest TightVNC version yet, and if I could re-produce the problem, or to clarify conditions causing the server to crash, that could help me to locate and fix bugs that might cause the problem. What color mode do you use on servers and does changing screen mode (e.g. 24bit -> 16bit) change anything? Do these crashes depend on encoding or cursor pointer mode used? Maybe there is something where machines differ (e.g. video drivers)? Also, I'd like to know, does anybody else experience similar problems? -- With Best Wishes, Constantin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sczjd@yahoo.com Mon Sep 3 01:35:30 2001 From: sczjd@yahoo.com (SI Reasoning) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 00:35:30 +0000 Subject: Problem with VNC Viewer In-Reply-To: <000b01c13402$59fa0120$0b515d18@CHARLIELABTOP> Message-ID: <20010902233236.63326.qmail@web9501.mail.yahoo.com> Have you tried the fvwm on your desktop to make sure it works? Are you sure it is installed? --- Karl-Heinz Schulz wrote: > Viewer is installed on Windows 2000 (with all > patches installed) > VNC Server is installed on Mandrake 8 (latest > version available) > > Problem number 1 - kvm is not available on Mandrake > when running Xfree 4.XX > I have the following Windows Manager installed > > KDE > Gnome > Fvwm > > When starting the viewer I see only the grey start > up screen > > The output of my xstartup file is as following > > bash-2.05$ more xstartup > #!/bin/sh > > xrdb $HOME/.Xresources > xsetroot -solid grey > xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP > Desktop" & > fvwm & > > What am I missing? > > Thank you > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== SI Reasoning sczjd@yahoo.com gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From karlheinz@khschulz.com Mon Sep 3 01:49:12 2001 From: karlheinz@khschulz.com (Karl-Heinz Schulz) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 00:49:12 +0000 Subject: Problem with VNC Viewer In-Reply-To: <20010902233236.63326.qmail@web9501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000c01c13409$67415750$0b515d18@CHARLIELABTOP> I didn't try fvwm because it was installed it remotely be me. I tried it also with KDE and Gnome - both are installed and work. The problem is that the server is in Montreal and I'm in North Carolina and log in via OpenSSH. -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On Behalf Of SI Reasoning Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 7:33 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Problem with VNC Viewer Have you tried the fvwm on your desktop to make sure it works? Are you sure it is installed? --- Karl-Heinz Schulz wrote: > Viewer is installed on Windows 2000 (with all > patches installed) > VNC Server is installed on Mandrake 8 (latest > version available) > > Problem number 1 - kvm is not available on Mandrake > when running Xfree 4.XX > I have the following Windows Manager installed > > KDE > Gnome > Fvwm > > When starting the viewer I see only the grey start > up screen > > The output of my xstartup file is as following > > bash-2.05$ more xstartup > #!/bin/sh > > xrdb $HOME/.Xresources > xsetroot -solid grey > xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP > Desktop" & > fvwm & > > What am I missing? > > Thank you > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== SI Reasoning sczjd@yahoo.com gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From yan@cardinalengineering.com Mon Sep 3 02:10:56 2001 From: yan@cardinalengineering.com (Yan Seiner) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 01:10:56 +0000 Subject: New user References: <003c01c133bf$14edbf60$64c8690a@Carola> Message-ID: <3B92C9E7.3963ADE3@cardinalengineering.com> VNC over VPN? Yes. Do it all the time. There should not be anything special about it. I run VNC over a network built with vtund (lightweight linux-based vpn). I have also run VNC over pptp from a win 9x client to a linux-based pptp server. No problem either way. I have, however, run into a similar problem trying to run various connections through a winNT based firewall. I suspect some sort of stateful packet inspection, but since the attempts were unauthorized, I can't provide any additional data. Can you get firewall/access logs from the NT server? --Yan spencer wrote: > > Scott, > I have a similar issue as stated below. Do you have any suggestions? > > I am trying to use VNC to access a Windows NT Server (Backup Domain > Controller, BDC). I am accessing the BDC via an all Microsoft VPN. I have > RAS on the Server and use the PPTP protocol to connect. I can connect to the > server (and have been doing this for some time now). > > Here is my setup. > Corporate- NT Server, BDC running behind a Linksys BEFSR41 nat router. > Public IP on the Wan side of the Linksys router. Forwarding ports 80, 25, > 110, and 1723 (for Linksys to work with VPN) to the 192.168.xxx.xxx NT BDC. > > Remote- NT Workstation, running behind a Linksys BEFSR41 nat router, dynamic > public IP (which has not changed in months). > > The Problem: > I have loaded WinVNC onto that server and can use the Win 98 client viewer > while on the local LAN. However, when on the remote NT Workstation I can > successfully connect to Corporate, but I cannot successfully run the WinNT > VNC client. I can enter the IP address of the remote machine, I get prompted > for a password and the remote screen initiates, then turns all black, and > then shuts down. > > Question: > Has anyone successfully connected VNC via a VPN tunnel of any type, and > specifically the type described above. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sczjd@yahoo.com Mon Sep 3 07:24:33 2001 From: sczjd@yahoo.com (SI Reasoning) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 06:24:33 +0000 Subject: Problem with VNC Viewer In-Reply-To: <000c01c13409$67415750$0b515d18@CHARLIELABTOP> Message-ID: <20010903051745.11142.qmail@web9504.mail.yahoo.com> try this: ------------------ #!/bin/sh xrdb $HOME/.Xresources exec fvwm #exec gnome-session #exec startkde ---------------------- you can unmark gnome or kde and re-mark fvwm if you want to try the others. --- Karl-Heinz Schulz wrote: > I didn't try fvwm because it was installed it > remotely be me. > I tried it also with KDE and Gnome - both are > installed and work. > > The problem is that the server is in Montreal and > I'm in North Carolina and > log in via OpenSSH. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On > Behalf Of SI Reasoning > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 7:33 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: Problem with VNC Viewer > > Have you tried the fvwm on your desktop to make sure > it works? > Are you sure it is installed? > > --- Karl-Heinz Schulz > wrote: > > Viewer is installed on Windows 2000 (with all > > patches installed) > > VNC Server is installed on Mandrake 8 (latest > > version available) > > > > Problem number 1 - kvm is not available on > Mandrake > > when running Xfree 4.XX > > I have the following Windows Manager installed > > > > KDE > > Gnome > > Fvwm > > > > When starting the viewer I see only the grey start > > up screen > > > > The output of my xstartup file is as following > > > > bash-2.05$ more xstartup > > #!/bin/sh > > > > xrdb $HOME/.Xresources > > xsetroot -solid grey > > xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title > "$VNCDESKTOP > > Desktop" & > > fvwm & > > > > What am I missing? > > > > Thank you > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > > unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ===== > SI Reasoning > sczjd@yahoo.com > gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== SI Reasoning sczjd@yahoo.com gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From petasis@iit.demokritos.gr Mon Sep 3 08:23:53 2001 From: petasis@iit.demokritos.gr (Georgios Petasis) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 07:23:53 +0000 Subject: KDE again In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01090309120600.29666@atlas> On ??? 02 ??? 2001 20:47, you wrote: > Hi, > > > kill all KDE processes > > Killing KDE is killing X but I can login with twm or whatever, okay. No, killing KDE is *not* killing X. KDE utilises many services that do not require X, like the DCOP server. > > >start a new VNC server without loading anything in it > > You mean nothing but a window manager like twm? No, not even a window manager like twm > > >type "startkde". What is then happening? > > KDE is starting up. But still I can run only one KDE. When I try to start > another KDE in a new vncserver the same DCOP error shows up (DCOP server, > kdesktop etc. already running! DCOP communication error!). Note that the *same* user can start up only *one* kde session. Loggin as a different user to start another session... George --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From richard.harris@nottscc.gov.uk Mon Sep 3 10:30:00 2001 From: richard.harris@nottscc.gov.uk (Richard Harris) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 09:30:00 +0000 Subject: Push to Windows Millenium In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3B934CB2.16317.F7611@localhost> > I did a search of the archives and wasnt able to find any info on > this. Is there a specific way to push VNC to a Windows ME machine > from an NT 4.0 Server? I can map drives as normal to the machine (its > a domain member), but what about the service install, et cetera? Is > the install any different from a remote install on an NT/Win2k > machine? I don't have any experience with VNC on ME. If ME is just a jazzed up 95 that takes NT drivers, then you'll have to go down the route of an install package. If ME has NT-like services then you should be able to use the SC command to install VNC as a service. You only need a push script if the local OS has it's own security system (nt/2000). Windows 9x doesn't have any of this, so if ME is like 9x, you could just use your own custom installer. Check out http://www.darkage.co.uk/vnc/owndistro.htm for a more in-depth discussion. HTH, Rich --------------------------------- Richard Harris Environment IT Tel: 0115 977 4509 --------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From david@jdavidj.freeserve.co.uk Mon Sep 3 11:51:36 2001 From: david@jdavidj.freeserve.co.uk (David Jackson) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 10:51:36 +0000 Subject: New user In-Reply-To: <002001c132a5$05bab7c0$1cbf4241@swbell.net> Message-ID: Thanks Pete No, I am not trying to dial up via the Internet, I am trying to do it direct via the telephone line. This is what I cannot understand. If I can connect two machines through a coaxial cable, why can I not connect the same two machines through a modem and phone line? On the Server machine, the IP address is 10.1.0.11, or at least that is what comes up when I hover the mouse over the vnc icon on the desktop toolbar. Having said that, I have just hovered over the icon on this PC and I now get 62.137.158.158.192.168.0.1 Is the first part of this the dynamic IP? Cheers David -----Original Message----- From: Pete [mailto:pete@atdt911.com] Sent: 01 September 2001 06:15 To: David Jackson Subject: Re: New user > OK. So I dial up through my usual ISP, and use whatever IP I am given for > each computer? Right. It can be tedious figuring out what a dynamic IP is; you might want to look into a dynamic DNS server. http://www.cjb.net/ http://www.dns2go.com/ http://www.dynip.com/ > The network of 5 dials up to the Internet via the Server, each workstation > using Winvnc to get the Server screen and then using that screen for dial up > via the Server modem to the Internet. OK, so they've only got 1 public IP -- on the server machine. Run WINIPCFG.EXE on that machine and that'll tell you what its IP is. > > Thanks for taking the time to help me with this. > > Cheers > David > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pete [mailto:pete@atdt911.com] > Sent: 31 August 2001 13:43 > To: David Jackson > Subject: Re: New user > > Well, on your old- and new-computer, you'll need to set the IPs to whatever > the internet service provider gives as an IP on each end. On dial-up, the IP > usually changes on each connection. > > On the 5 client PCs you describe, same thing, but they would hopefully have > static IPs. Do you know if they're using a proxy or have their own DNS > server and are using DHCP? How do they connect those 5 machines to the > internet? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Jackson" > To: "Pete" > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 6:37 AM > Subject: RE: New user > > > > Thanks Pete. That's very helpful. I shall certainly try that. > > How do I find out what the public IP is? > > Cheers > > David > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pete [mailto:pete@atdt911.com] > > Sent: 31 August 2001 12:08 > > To: david@jdavidj.freeserve.co.uk > > Subject: Re: New user > > > > Everything you're describing is the correct behavior, since those are > > private IPs. They will not pass through any router. > > > > To address the machines from an outside-network, you need to use the > public > > IPs. You must fix that before worrying about using telnet or anything > else. > > > > Once you've found that the public IP is, let's say 12.34.56.78, just make > > sure that either telnet.exe or hyperterminal (better) are installed on the > > box you're telnet'ing from, then enter from the RUN prompt or any address > > bar: > > telnet 12.34.56.78 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Jackson" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 2:45 AM > > Subject: New user > > > > > > > I have got WinVNC 3.3.3R9 running on my home network, between my old > > > computer and my new one. It links fine through my network cards and a > > > coaxial cable. > > > > > > I have now taken my old computer to a friends house and connected it to > > his > > > phone line, but I cannot now dial into it from my new computer at home. > > Nor > > > can he dial into my computer from there. I seem to have got all the > > > settings right, but when it dials his number, and it answers, my old > > > computer does not pick up the signal. What am I doing wrong? I am > > > searching on the IP number, which is 192.168.0.2 for the old computer > and > > > 192.168.0.1 for the new computer, which works fine on the home network > > > through the cable connection but I have never got it working through a > > modem > > > connection. How do I ping the old computer? How do I telnet, whatever > > that > > > is? > > > > > > Similarly, I have set up a network of 5 PCs for a client in Birmingham, > > > which happily use Winvnc to communicate with each other. But I cannot > > dial > > > into their system from here, even though I have set up their system to > > allow > > > me to do so. > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From karlheinz@khschulz.com Mon Sep 3 13:51:31 2001 From: karlheinz@khschulz.com (Karl-Heinz Schulz) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 12:51:31 +0000 Subject: Problem with VNC Viewer In-Reply-To: <20010903051745.11142.qmail@web9504.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000501c1346e$0952e900$0b515d18@CHARLIELABTOP> No, no difference - I see just the gray X start up page - no Windows manager. -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On Behalf Of SI Reasoning Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 1:18 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Problem with VNC Viewer try this: ------------------ #!/bin/sh xrdb $HOME/.Xresources exec fvwm #exec gnome-session #exec startkde ---------------------- you can unmark gnome or kde and re-mark fvwm if you want to try the others. --- Karl-Heinz Schulz wrote: > I didn't try fvwm because it was installed it > remotely be me. > I tried it also with KDE and Gnome - both are > installed and work. > > The problem is that the server is in Montreal and > I'm in North Carolina and > log in via OpenSSH. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On > Behalf Of SI Reasoning > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 7:33 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: Problem with VNC Viewer > > Have you tried the fvwm on your desktop to make sure > it works? > Are you sure it is installed? > > --- Karl-Heinz Schulz > wrote: > > Viewer is installed on Windows 2000 (with all > > patches installed) > > VNC Server is installed on Mandrake 8 (latest > > version available) > > > > Problem number 1 - kvm is not available on > Mandrake > > when running Xfree 4.XX > > I have the following Windows Manager installed > > > > KDE > > Gnome > > Fvwm > > > > When starting the viewer I see only the grey start > > up screen > > > > The output of my xstartup file is as following > > > > bash-2.05$ more xstartup > > #!/bin/sh > > > > xrdb $HOME/.Xresources > > xsetroot -solid grey > > xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title > "$VNCDESKTOP > > Desktop" & > > fvwm & > > > > What am I missing? > > > > Thank you > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > > unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ===== > SI Reasoning > sczjd@yahoo.com > gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== SI Reasoning sczjd@yahoo.com gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jason9x19@sunflower.com Mon Sep 3 15:12:21 2001 From: jason9x19@sunflower.com (Jason Holbert) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 14:12:21 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: I'm having the same problem, and I'm running it on Windows NT 4.0 SP5 --J --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spencer@silcom.com Mon Sep 3 15:31:24 2001 From: spencer@silcom.com (spencer) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 14:31:24 +0000 Subject: References: Message-ID: <000c01c1347b$f075ac70$64c8690a@Carola> I think the problem might be that the appropriate switch on the VNC Service for trapping Ctrl-Alt-Del is not turned on. I will have to verify this on Tuesday when the corporate office is open again. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Holbert" To: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 11:53 PM > I'm having the same problem, and I'm running it on Windows NT 4.0 SP5 > > --J > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tritium2010@home.com Mon Sep 3 17:04:24 2001 From: tritium2010@home.com (test) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 16:04:24 +0000 Subject: References: Message-ID: <007501c13488$f3b88f80$f8180018@CORPNT.NET> Funny that this should come up... I just installed VNC on a machine with X-Windows... and I typed password, and this gray screen came up. I thought.. damn... something is incompatible.... Well.. close.. but no cigar. I left clicked on the background, holding the mouse button down... some little invisible windows popped up. All you have to do.. is Click-Hold and drag a little to the right .. it should pop up with something... may not look exactly like your desktop, but it is. Hope that's all! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Holbert" To: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 11:53 PM > I'm having the same problem, and I'm running it on Windows NT 4.0 SP5 > > --J > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From OAnkert@t-online.de Mon Sep 3 17:05:09 2001 From: OAnkert@t-online.de (OAnkert@t-online.de) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 16:05:09 +0000 Subject: ip forwarding win98 Message-ID: <999528982.3b939a168ebe3@webmail.t-online.de> Hello, i have one pc running win98 with two network cards, each attached to a different network. I need to forwarding ip from one network to the other to access the vncservers running on that network. I can not change this pc to winNT or 2000. Can anybody help? Oliver --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tage@cs.uit.no Mon Sep 3 17:28:42 2001 From: tage@cs.uit.no (Tage Stabell-Kulo) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 16:28:42 +0000 Subject: WinVNC and vncwiever (on NetBSD): Closed connection Message-ID: I am running WinVNC on Win2K (3.3.3 R9). The client is version 3.3.3r1, on NetBSD. When I connect the window opens, I get a glimpse of my desktop; the colours seem to be right, and the size seems to be OK. If I stop the viewer (by sending it SUSP at the right moment) I can see that the desktop has been drawn perfectly. However, the window closes after a split second. Below is logging from the client, and then on thw WinVNC side. Any assistance is very welcome. [TaSK] -- //// Tage Stabell-Kulx | email : Tage@cs.uit.no //// ///Department of Computer Science| Phone : +47 7764 4032 /// // 9037 University of Tromsx | Fax : +47 7764 4580 // / Norway | http://www.cs.uit.no/~tage/ ============================= IPv6to4gw:~>vncviewer host VNC server supports protocol version 3.3 (viewer 3.3) Password: VNC authentication succeeded Desktop name "host" Connected to VNC server, using protocol version 3.3 VNC server default format: 32 bits per pixel. Least significant byte first in each pixel. True colour: max red 255 green 255 blue 255, shift red 16 green 8 blue 0 Using default colormap which is TrueColor. Pixel format: 16 bits per pixel. Least significant byte first in each pixel. True colour: max red 31 green 63 blue 31, shift red 11 green 5 blue 0 vncviewer: read: Connection reset by peer IPv6to4gw:~> ================================= D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncSockConnect.cpp : accepted connection from 129.242.16.153 D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncClient.cpp : vncClient() executing... D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncServer.cpp : AddClient() done D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\WinVNC.cpp : message 1026 recieved D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncClient.cpp : client connected : 129.242.16.153 (1) D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncClient.cpp : negotiated version D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncPasswd.h : PASSWD : ToText called D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\WinVNC.cpp : message 275 recieved D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncMenu.cpp : tray icon added ok Mon Sep 03 13:49:00 2001 D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncClient.cpp : non-shared connection - disconnecting old clie nts D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncServer.cpp : KillAuthClients() done D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncDesktop.cpp : initialising desktop handler D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncDesktop.cpp : KillScreenSaver... D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncDesktop.cpp : bitmap dimensions are 1024 x 768 D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncDesktop.cpp : created memory bitmap D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncDesktop.cpp : got bitmap format D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncDesktop.cpp : DBG:display context has 1 planes! D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncDesktop.cpp : DBG:memory context has 1 planes! D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncDesktop.cpp : attempting to enable DIBsection blits D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncDesktop.cpp : unable to enable fast blits D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncDesktop.cpp : no palette data for truecolour display D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncBuffer.cpp : raw encoder requested D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncEncoder.cpp : settranslatefunction called D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncEncoder.cpp : only 8, 16 or 32 bits supported remotely - 0 requested D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncEncoder.cpp : settranslatefunction called D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncEncoder.cpp : no translation required D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncBuffer.cpp : local buffer=3145728, remote buffer=3145740 D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncBuffer.cpp : local buffer=3145728, remote buffer=3145740 D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\WinVNC.cpp : message 1027 recieved D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncServer.cpp : Authenticated() done D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncClient.cpp : authenticated connection D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncClient.cpp : sent pixel format to client D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncMenu.cpp : tray icon added ok D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncBuffer.cpp : SetClientFormat called D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncEncoder.cpp : settranslatefunction called D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncEncoder.cpp : triple LUT used D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncBuffer.cpp : local buffer=3145728, remote buffer=1572876 D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncBuffer.cpp : Hextile encoder requested D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncEncoder.cpp : settranslatefunction called D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncEncoder.cpp : only 8, 16 or 32 bits supported remotely - 0 requested D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncEncoder.cpp : settranslatefunction called D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncEncoder.cpp : triple LUT used D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncBuffer.cpp : local buffer=3145728, remote buffer=1576061 D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncEncoder.cpp : remote palette data requested Mon Sep 03 13:49:01 2001 D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncBuffer.cpp : clearing rectangle (0, 0)-(507, 768) D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\VSocket.cpp : socket error 0 D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncBuffer.cpp : clearing rectangle (507, 0)-(1024, 768) Mon Sep 03 13:49:02 2001 D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncService.cpp : SelectHDESK to Default (40) from 40D:\ORL\vss \winvnc\vncService.cpp : SelectHDESK failed to close old desktop 40 (Err=170) D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncClient.cpp : client disconnected : 129.242.16.153 (1) D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncServer.cpp : removing authorised client D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncServer.cpp : deleting desktop server D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncDesktop.cpp : killing screen server D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncDesktop.cpp : quitting desktop server thread D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncService.cpp : SelectHDESK to Default (40) from 40D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncService.cpp : SelectHDESK failed to close old desktop 40 (Err=170) D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncServer.cpp : RemoveClient() done D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncClient.cpp : ~vncClient() executing... D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncClient.cpp : deleting socket D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\VSocket.cpp : closing socket D:\ORL\vss\winvnc\vncClient.cpp : deleting buffer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From IanF@src.co.uk Mon Sep 3 17:41:18 2001 From: IanF@src.co.uk (Ian Ferguson) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 16:41:18 +0000 Subject: ip forwarding win98 Message-ID: I think you should be able to use VNCproxy. someone please correct me if this is not the case. Ian -----Original Message----- From: OAnkert@t-online.de [mailto:OAnkert@t-online.de] Sent: 03 September 2001 15:59 To: VNC Liste Subject: ip forwarding win98 Hello, i have one pc running win98 with two network cards, each attached to a different network. I need to forwarding ip from one network to the other to access the vncservers running on that network. I can not change this pc to winNT or 2000. Can anybody help? Oliver --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From bebsworthy@entreview.com Mon Sep 3 19:01:49 2001 From: bebsworthy@entreview.com (Boyd Ebsworthy) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 18:01:49 +0000 Subject: VNC and CORBA Message-ID: <002c01c13497$64a36360$2c30fac2@entreview.com> hi everyone, I'm looking for a way to remotely control a vncserver, i also understand that the internal (corba enabled) version will not be released, so i was wondering if anyone here has done some work to implement some corba control to the windows version of the server. Anyway i'll do my best to come up with something but since i currently know very little about corba any hints or examples will be welcomed :) thanks boyd. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From zmer@weddingchannel.com Mon Sep 3 19:11:56 2001 From: zmer@weddingchannel.com (Zmer Andranigian) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 18:11:56 +0000 Subject: ip forwarding win98 Message-ID: <7D380B2F4B3BD411B748009027855234015814E7@laxchange.weddingc hannel.com> why not just vnc to the machine with two nics and then open another vnc session and vnc over to the other network? -----Original Message----- From: OAnkert@t-online.de [mailto:OAnkert@t-online.de] Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 6:59 AM To: VNC Liste Subject: ip forwarding win98 Hello, i have one pc running win98 with two network cards, each attached to a different network. I need to forwarding ip from one network to the other to access the vncservers running on that network. I can not change this pc to winNT or 2000. Can anybody help? Oliver --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Eric@InvisibleRobot.com Mon Sep 3 19:27:21 2001 From: Eric@InvisibleRobot.com (Eric Carlson) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 18:27:21 +0000 Subject: TightVNC crash on 6 of 16 NT servers References: Message-ID: <3B93B093.CB0294F6@InvisibleRobot.com> Constantin: I think all the servers are running at 800x600x16-bit. The same problem happens no matter which VNC client is used. I'll have to get the Dr.Watson error to send to you, as soon as I can get back into the servers. All the servers should have the same VNC settings. I'll have to find out what video drivers each server is running. - Eric, http://www.InvisibleRobot.com/ > Date: 03 Sep 2001 07:18:31 +0800 > From: Const Kaplinsky > Subject: Re: TightVNC crash on 6 of 16 NT servers > > I have not seen crashes with latest TightVNC version yet, and if I > could re-produce the problem, or to clarify conditions causing the > server to crash, that could help me to locate and fix bugs that might > cause the problem. What color mode do you use on servers and does > changing screen mode (e.g. 24bit -> 16bit) change anything? Do these > crashes depend on encoding or cursor pointer mode used? Maybe there is > something where machines differ (e.g. video drivers)? > > Also, I'd like to know, does anybody else experience similar problems? > > - -- > With Best Wishes, > Constantin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sczjd@yahoo.com Mon Sep 3 19:31:23 2001 From: sczjd@yahoo.com (SI Reasoning) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 18:31:23 +0000 Subject: Problem with VNC Viewer In-Reply-To: <000501c1346e$0952e900$0b515d18@CHARLIELABTOP> Message-ID: <20010903172556.46558.qmail@web9501.mail.yahoo.com> Did you try all 3 (only one at a time though!) You know this has to be set on the server computer...not the computer you are typing from. You have to set it up in your user account on the server. --- Karl-Heinz Schulz wrote: > No, no difference - I see just the gray X start up > page - no Windows > manager. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On > Behalf Of SI Reasoning > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 1:18 AM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: RE: Problem with VNC Viewer > > try this: > ------------------ > #!/bin/sh > > xrdb $HOME/.Xresources > exec fvwm > #exec gnome-session > #exec startkde > ---------------------- > you can unmark gnome or kde and re-mark fvwm if you > want to try the others. > > > --- Karl-Heinz Schulz > wrote: > > I didn't try fvwm because it was installed it > > remotely be me. > > I tried it also with KDE and Gnome - both are > > installed and work. > > > > The problem is that the server is in Montreal and > > I'm in North Carolina and > > log in via OpenSSH. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On > > Behalf Of SI Reasoning > > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 7:33 PM > > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > Subject: Re: Problem with VNC Viewer > > > > Have you tried the fvwm on your desktop to make > sure > > it works? > > Are you sure it is installed? > > > > --- Karl-Heinz Schulz > > wrote: > > > Viewer is installed on Windows 2000 (with all > > > patches installed) > > > VNC Server is installed on Mandrake 8 (latest > > > version available) > > > > > > Problem number 1 - kvm is not available on > > Mandrake > > > when running Xfree 4.XX > > > I have the following Windows Manager installed > > > > > > KDE > > > Gnome > > > Fvwm > > > > > > When starting the viewer I see only the grey > start > > > up screen > > > > > > The output of my xstartup file is as following > > > > > > bash-2.05$ more xstartup > > > #!/bin/sh > > > > > > xrdb $HOME/.Xresources > > > xsetroot -solid grey > > > xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title > > "$VNCDESKTOP > > > Desktop" & > > > fvwm & > > > > > > What am I missing? > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > > > unsubscribe vnc-list > > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > > See also: > > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ===== > > SI Reasoning > > sczjd@yahoo.com > > gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > > messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > > http://im.yahoo.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > > unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > > unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ===== > SI Reasoning > sczjd@yahoo.com > gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== SI Reasoning sczjd@yahoo.com gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From twaugh@redhat.com Mon Sep 3 19:41:31 2001 From: twaugh@redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 18:41:31 +0000 Subject: [patch] make vncpasswd create ~/.vnc if it doesn't exist Message-ID: <20010903183607.F20060@redhat.com> Here is a patch that makes vncpasswd create ~/.vnc if it doesn't exist, rather than failing with a less than obvious error message. Tim. */ --- vnc_unixsrc/vncpasswd/vncpasswd.c.vncuserdir Tue Aug 17 12:31:42 1999 +++ vnc_unixsrc/vncpasswd/vncpasswd.c Mon Sep 3 18:09:06 2001 @@ -24,9 +24,12 @@ * anyway. */ +#include #include #include #include +#include +#include #include #include "vncauth.h" @@ -38,6 +41,7 @@ int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { char *passwd; char *passwd1; + char passwdDir[256]; char passwdFile[256]; int i; @@ -46,7 +50,8 @@ fprintf(stderr,"Error: no HOME environment variable\n"); exit(1); } - sprintf(passwdFile,"%s/.vnc/passwd",getenv("HOME")); + sprintf(passwdDir,"%s/.vnc",getenv("HOME")); + sprintf(passwdFile,"%s/passwd",passwdDir); } else if (argc == 2) { @@ -78,6 +83,12 @@ } if (strcmp(passwd1, passwd) == 0) { + if (mkdir (passwdDir, (S_IRWXU | S_IRGRP | S_IXGRP | + S_IROTH | S_IXOTH)) == -1 && + errno != EEXIST) { + perror ("~/.vnc"); + exit (1); + } if (vncEncryptAndStorePasswd(passwd, passwdFile) != 0) { fprintf(stderr,"Cannot write password file %s\n",passwdFile); exit(1); --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From twaugh@redhat.com Mon Sep 3 19:43:17 2001 From: twaugh@redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 18:43:17 +0000 Subject: Problem with VNC Viewer In-Reply-To: <20010903172556.46558.qmail@web9501.mail.yahoo.com>; from sczjd@yahoo.com on Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 10:25:56AM -0700 References: <000501c1346e$0952e900$0b515d18@CHARLIELABTOP> <20010903172556.46558.qmail@web9501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010903183827.G20060@redhat.com> Here is the patch that I'll be putting into the Red Hat Linux VNC RPMs to make this kind of thing easier. Tim. */ --- vnc_unixsrc/vncserver.xclients Mon Sep 3 17:45:51 2001 +++ vnc_unixsrc/vncserver Mon Sep 3 17:48:16 2001 @@ -43,10 +43,8 @@ $defaultXStartup = ("#!/bin/sh\n\n". - "xrdb \$HOME/.Xresources\n". - "xsetroot -solid grey\n". - "xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title \"\$VNCDESKTOP Desktop\" &\n". - "twm &\n"); + "# Red Hat Linux VNC session startup script\n". + "exec /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients\n"); chop($host = `uname -n`); Tim. */ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From karlheinz@khschulz.com Mon Sep 3 20:21:40 2001 From: karlheinz@khschulz.com (Karl-Heinz Schulz) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 19:21:40 +0000 Subject: Problem with VNC Viewer In-Reply-To: <20010903172556.46558.qmail@web9501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001401c134a3$942c4f50$0b515d18@CHARLIELABTOP> Yes ;) Yes of course - the viewer is used on a Windows 2000 machine. -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On Behalf Of SI Reasoning Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 1:26 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Problem with VNC Viewer Did you try all 3 (only one at a time though!) You know this has to be set on the server computer...not the computer you are typing from. You have to set it up in your user account on the server. --- Karl-Heinz Schulz wrote: > No, no difference - I see just the gray X start up > page - no Windows > manager. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On > Behalf Of SI Reasoning > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 1:18 AM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: RE: Problem with VNC Viewer > > try this: > ------------------ > #!/bin/sh > > xrdb $HOME/.Xresources > exec fvwm > #exec gnome-session > #exec startkde > ---------------------- > you can unmark gnome or kde and re-mark fvwm if you > want to try the others. > > > --- Karl-Heinz Schulz > wrote: > > I didn't try fvwm because it was installed it > > remotely be me. > > I tried it also with KDE and Gnome - both are > > installed and work. > > > > The problem is that the server is in Montreal and > > I'm in North Carolina and > > log in via OpenSSH. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On > > Behalf Of SI Reasoning > > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 7:33 PM > > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > Subject: Re: Problem with VNC Viewer > > > > Have you tried the fvwm on your desktop to make > sure > > it works? > > Are you sure it is installed? > > > > --- Karl-Heinz Schulz > > wrote: > > > Viewer is installed on Windows 2000 (with all > > > patches installed) > > > VNC Server is installed on Mandrake 8 (latest > > > version available) > > > > > > Problem number 1 - kvm is not available on > > Mandrake > > > when running Xfree 4.XX > > > I have the following Windows Manager installed > > > > > > KDE > > > Gnome > > > Fvwm > > > > > > When starting the viewer I see only the grey > start > > > up screen > > > > > > The output of my xstartup file is as following > > > > > > bash-2.05$ more xstartup > > > #!/bin/sh > > > > > > xrdb $HOME/.Xresources > > > xsetroot -solid grey > > > xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title > > "$VNCDESKTOP > > > Desktop" & > > > fvwm & > > > > > > What am I missing? > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > > > unsubscribe vnc-list > > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > > See also: > > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ===== > > SI Reasoning > > sczjd@yahoo.com > > gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > > messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > > http://im.yahoo.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > > unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > > unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ===== > SI Reasoning > sczjd@yahoo.com > gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== SI Reasoning sczjd@yahoo.com gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From steedra@earthlink.net Mon Sep 3 20:59:39 2001 From: steedra@earthlink.net (Robert A. Steed) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 19:59:39 +0000 Subject: Systray Icon Message-ID: <000001c134a9$670c6ef0$010000c0@steedra> I am currently running VNC 3.3.3r9 and looking for a way to hide the SysTray Icon. Does anyone have a registry edit that will do this or can point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance. Robert A. Steed mailto:steedra@yahoo.com http://www.afn.org/~afn52478 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Mon Sep 3 21:16:27 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 20:16:27 +0000 Subject: Systray Icon Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04D7A@QMAIL> -----Original Message----- From: Robert A. Steed [mailto:steedra@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 2:51 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Systray Icon I am currently running VNC 3.3.3r9 and looking for a way to hide the SysTray Icon. Does anyone have a registry edit that will do this or can point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance. Robert A. Steed mailto:steedra@yahoo.com http://www.afn.org/~afn52478 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pdy1969@yahoo.com Mon Sep 3 21:16:31 2001 From: pdy1969@yahoo.com (Philip Ygnacio) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 20:16:31 +0000 Subject: Systray Icon In-Reply-To: <000001c134a9$670c6ef0$010000c0@steedra> Message-ID: <20010903191409.84004.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> the way to solve this is to install the VNC a s a "Service". You will find the instructions for doing this in the instruction packet that you can down load at the VNC website. --- "Robert A. Steed" wrote: > I am currently running VNC 3.3.3r9 and looking for a way to hide the SysTray > Icon. Does anyone have a registry edit that will do this or can point me in > the right direction. > > > Thanks in advance. > > Robert A. Steed > mailto:steedra@yahoo.com > http://www.afn.org/~afn52478 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== Have you ever noticed that the people that say something can't be done .... are the ones that are always successfull at not doing anything? >> pdy << Some see the world as it is ...and.. ask... " WHY" ? Others see the world as it could be and ask... "Why Not" ? << Robert Kennedy >> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Mon Sep 3 21:16:39 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 20:16:39 +0000 Subject: Systray Icon Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04D7B@QMAIL> Yes, look at the TridiaVNC distro - they have this registry hack included. See http://www.tridiavnc.com. -----Original Message----- From: Robert A. Steed [mailto:steedra@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 2:51 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Systray Icon I am currently running VNC 3.3.3r9 and looking for a way to hide the SysTray Icon. Does anyone have a registry edit that will do this or can point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance. Robert A. Steed mailto:steedra@yahoo.com http://www.afn.org/~afn52478 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From steedra@earthlink.net Mon Sep 3 22:56:52 2001 From: steedra@earthlink.net (Robert A. Steed) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 21:56:52 +0000 Subject: Systray Icon In-Reply-To: <20010903191409.84004.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001c134ba$857085f0$010000c0@steedra> I have set it up as a service, but did watch my registry a little closer this time. It was placing a hook in the registry for service helper. This is what kept is showing in the systray. Removing that service helper from the run once part of the registry corrected. Thanks for the pointer. -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Philip Ygnacio Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 3:14 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Systray Icon the way to solve this is to install the VNC a s a "Service". You will find the instructions for doing this in the instruction packet that you can down load at the VNC website. --- "Robert A. Steed" wrote: > I am currently running VNC 3.3.3r9 and looking for a way to hide the SysTray > Icon. Does anyone have a registry edit that will do this or can point me in > the right direction. > > > Thanks in advance. > > Robert A. Steed > mailto:steedra@yahoo.com > http://www.afn.org/~afn52478 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== Have you ever noticed that the people that say something can't be done .... are the ones that are always successfull at not doing anything? >> pdy << Some see the world as it is ...and.. ask... " WHY" ? Others see the world as it could be and ask... "Why Not" ? << Robert Kennedy >> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sczjd@yahoo.com Mon Sep 3 23:51:14 2001 From: sczjd@yahoo.com (SI Reasoning) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 22:51:14 +0000 Subject: Problem with VNC Viewer In-Reply-To: <001401c134a3$942c4f50$0b515d18@CHARLIELABTOP> Message-ID: <20010903214739.44134.qmail@web9502.mail.yahoo.com> have you killed the process and then restarted the server after you make the change? If not, type vncserver -kill :1 replace the number (1) with the number for your server then type vncserver :1 (again replacing your number for the 1. --- Karl-Heinz Schulz wrote: > Yes ;) > Yes of course - the viewer is used on a Windows 2000 > machine. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On > Behalf Of SI Reasoning > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 1:26 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: RE: Problem with VNC Viewer > > Did you try all 3 (only one at a time though!) > You know this has to be set on the server > computer...not the computer you are typing from. You > have to set it up in your user account on the > server. > > --- Karl-Heinz Schulz > wrote: > > No, no difference - I see just the gray X start up > > page - no Windows > > manager. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On > > Behalf Of SI Reasoning > > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 1:18 AM > > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > Subject: RE: Problem with VNC Viewer > > > > try this: > > ------------------ > > #!/bin/sh > > > > xrdb $HOME/.Xresources > > exec fvwm > > #exec gnome-session > > #exec startkde > > ---------------------- > > you can unmark gnome or kde and re-mark fvwm if > you > > want to try the others. > > > > > > --- Karl-Heinz Schulz > > wrote: > > > I didn't try fvwm because it was installed it > > > remotely be me. > > > I tried it also with KDE and Gnome - both are > > > installed and work. > > > > > > The problem is that the server is in Montreal > and > > > I'm in North Carolina and > > > log in via OpenSSH. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On > > > Behalf Of SI Reasoning > > > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 7:33 PM > > > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > > Subject: Re: Problem with VNC Viewer > > > > > > Have you tried the fvwm on your desktop to make > > sure > > > it works? > > > Are you sure it is installed? > > > > > > --- Karl-Heinz Schulz > > > wrote: > > > > Viewer is installed on Windows 2000 (with all > > > > patches installed) > > > > VNC Server is installed on Mandrake 8 (latest > > > > version available) > > > > > > > > Problem number 1 - kvm is not available on > > > Mandrake > > > > when running Xfree 4.XX > > > > I have the following Windows Manager installed > > > > > > > > KDE > > > > Gnome > > > > Fvwm > > > > > > > > When starting the viewer I see only the grey > > start > > > > up screen > > > > > > > > The output of my xstartup file is as following > > > > > > > > bash-2.05$ more xstartup > > > > #!/bin/sh > > > > > > > > xrdb $HOME/.Xresources > > > > xsetroot -solid grey > > > > xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title > > > "$VNCDESKTOP > > > > Desktop" & > > > > fvwm & > > > > > > > > What am I missing? > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > > > > unsubscribe vnc-list > > > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > > > See also: > > > > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ===== > > > SI Reasoning > > > sczjd@yahoo.com > > > gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > > > messaging with Yahoo! 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Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sczjd@yahoo.com Mon Sep 3 23:53:07 2001 From: sczjd@yahoo.com (SI Reasoning) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 22:53:07 +0000 Subject: Problem with VNC Viewer In-Reply-To: <20010903183827.G20060@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20010903215100.49971.qmail@web9507.mail.yahoo.com> You might want to leave in "xrdb \$HOME/.Xresources\n". since that will allow for individual changes (helps clue in sophisticated newbies) --- Tim Waugh wrote: > Here is the patch that I'll be putting into the Red > Hat Linux VNC RPMs > to make this kind of thing easier. > > Tim. > */ > > --- vnc_unixsrc/vncserver.xclients Mon Sep 3 > 17:45:51 2001 > +++ vnc_unixsrc/vncserver Mon Sep 3 17:48:16 2001 > @@ -43,10 +43,8 @@ > > $defaultXStartup > = ("#!/bin/sh\n\n". > - "xrdb \$HOME/.Xresources\n". > - "xsetroot -solid grey\n". > - "xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title > \"\$VNCDESKTOP Desktop\" &\n". > - "twm &\n"); > + "# Red Hat Linux VNC session startup > script\n". > + "exec /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients\n"); > > chop($host = `uname -n`); > > Tim. > */ > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== SI Reasoning sczjd@yahoo.com gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ajv@greebo.net Tue Sep 4 04:39:07 2001 From: ajv@greebo.net (Andrew van der Stock) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 03:39:07 +0000 Subject: [patch] make vncpasswd create ~/.vnc if it doesn't exist In-Reply-To: <20010903183607.F20060@redhat.com> Message-ID: NO! NO! NO! NO!* Do not EVER trust the environment, particularly when using sprintf() with bounded arrays! This is how we got into all that locale, xmcd, kerberos, dtmail (and so on... the list is endless) bother. Create the directory securely, and test for its existance before you go out and create it. This is how symlink attacks occur. The mode of the .vnc directory should be 700 not, 755. There is no reason to create this directory as 755, as this allows any user to discover the user's VNC password. Test the error result, don't just ignore it! Andrew * :-) in case you feel that I'm being too harsh. But this is about security, so I'm being harsh. -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Tim Waugh Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2001 03:36 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: [patch] make vncpasswd create ~/.vnc if it doesn't exist Here is a patch that makes vncpasswd create ~/.vnc if it doesn't exist, rather than failing with a less than obvious error message. Tim. */ --- vnc_unixsrc/vncpasswd/vncpasswd.c.vncuserdir Tue Aug 17 12:31:42 1999 +++ vnc_unixsrc/vncpasswd/vncpasswd.c Mon Sep 3 18:09:06 2001 @@ -24,9 +24,12 @@ * anyway. */ +#include #include #include #include +#include +#include #include #include "vncauth.h" @@ -38,6 +41,7 @@ int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { char *passwd; char *passwd1; + char passwdDir[256]; char passwdFile[256]; int i; @@ -46,7 +50,8 @@ fprintf(stderr,"Error: no HOME environment variable\n"); exit(1); } - sprintf(passwdFile,"%s/.vnc/passwd",getenv("HOME")); + sprintf(passwdDir,"%s/.vnc",getenv("HOME")); + sprintf(passwdFile,"%s/passwd",passwdDir); } else if (argc == 2) { @@ -78,6 +83,12 @@ } if (strcmp(passwd1, passwd) == 0) { + if (mkdir (passwdDir, (S_IRWXU | S_IRGRP | S_IXGRP | + S_IROTH | S_IXOTH)) == -1 && + errno != EEXIST) { + perror ("~/.vnc"); + exit (1); + } if (vncEncryptAndStorePasswd(passwd, passwdFile) != 0) { fprintf(stderr,"Cannot write password file %s\n",passwdFile); exit(1); --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Asael_Degany@amat.com Tue Sep 4 07:33:40 2001 From: Asael_Degany@amat.com (Asael_Degany@amat.com) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 06:33:40 +0000 Subject: Refresh problem using Internet Explorer to view VNC server that run on Unix station Message-ID: Hi, I have a refresh problem using Internet Explorer 4.0 ( on my P.C. with window NT 4.) to connect to VNC server on my Unix station: When I'm working on any P.C. and drag an application window inside the Explorer window (that display the VNC server) it is not refreshed, therefore the dragged window is spread all over the browser window. I don't experience that problem at all when I'm using VNCviwer that is installed on any P.C. Any solution ? Thanks Asael --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From twaugh@redhat.com Tue Sep 4 10:39:20 2001 From: twaugh@redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 09:39:20 +0000 Subject: [patch] make vncpasswd create ~/.vnc if it doesn't exist In-Reply-To: ; from ajv@greebo.net on Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 12:31:13PM +1000 References: <20010903183607.F20060@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20010904093418.K20060@redhat.com> On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 12:31:13PM +1000, Andrew van der Stock wrote: > NO! NO! NO! NO!* I know what you mean; I was horified myself to learn that the user's .vnc directory has world execute permission. But the passwd file has mode 600 (see the code that creates it in the library). I was just extending the existing convention: take a look at how the vncserver script creates the .vnc directory. > Do not EVER trust the environment, particularly when using sprintf() with > bounded arrays! This is how we got into all that locale, xmcd, kerberos, > dtmail (and so on... the list is endless) bother. Well, to be honest, the risk here is hard to see: * If the user's HOME environment variable is somehow changed by an attacker, they are in trouble anyhow since the VNC library is about to fopen(...,"w") the passwd file. * Otherwise the HOME environment variable is sane, so we should worry about symlink attacks. Wait---a symlink attack on a user, in their own home directory? How? > The mode of the .vnc directory should be 700 not, 755. There is no reason to > create this directory as 755, as this allows any user to discover the user's > VNC password. Although the 'allows any user to discover the user's VNC password' bit is incorrect (see above), I agree that this directory ought to be more secure. That requires a change to the vncserver script as well. > Test the error result, don't just ignore it! Where do I ignore an error result? Thanks for the feedback. Tim. */ [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From christian@i-a.co.uk Tue Sep 4 10:39:26 2001 From: christian@i-a.co.uk (Christian D'Amico) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 09:39:26 +0000 Subject: Problem connecting to VNC Server Message-ID: <002701c1351c$d25d4990$1f00a8c0@ia.co.uk> Hi all, wondering if someone can help me. I've tried using VNC for the first time the other day. I loaded the server software onto my home machine, which has a home network and an ADSL connection through a USB port. The problem is, when I try to connect to either my hostname OR my IP, it won't connect. The thing is though, it works when I try it from another machine on my home network, so I'm doing *something* right, hehe. I've tried connecting from my cousin's machine, but still to no avail. I've also tried setting the session number to something manually rather than automatic, but still no go :/ Has anyone got any recommendations I could try to get this to work? Kind Regards, Christian D'Amico Web Designer Internet Assist Ltd Tel : +44 (0)208 547 3700 Fax : +44 (0)208 547 3600 Web : http://www.i-a.co.uk Email : christian@i-a.co.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From frank.carius@netatwork.de Tue Sep 4 10:50:56 2001 From: frank.carius@netatwork.de (Carius, Frank) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 09:50:56 +0000 Subject: VNC remote install and connection closed Message-ID: <2C4F30BA135431479AA1DAD5BA9B08F41B2BD9@nawsv001.netatwork.d e> Thank you Richard for your feedback, I read your site and ist really good stuff I'll try to adapt these things. On feedback to http://www.darkage.co.uk/vnc/largescale.htm Wir NT4 you can use the Reskit Tool "NETDOM" to query the Domaincontroller f|r a list of all Windows NT Stations in that domain (Computer accounts in the sam) to get a complete list pf Workstations. With Windows 2000 you can of course use "LDIFDE" or "CSVDE" to export the same information from the AD. But i found a more genuine way to push VNC to workstations. Simply create a hidden share on the PDC like "VNC$" and grant everyone create. And than let the user logon script create a file with the following code: If not exist %systemroot%\winvnc.exe echo vncmissing >> \\pdcname\vnc$\%COMPUTERNAME%.vnc If exist %systemroot%\winvnc.exe echo vncmissing >> \\pdcname\vnc$\%COMPUTERNAME%.vncok So you get a list of all computers with VNC installed and not installed. Ist easy to let a AT-Job or a permanent batch running on the DC to check the directory f|r new *.VNC Files and to trigger fastpush for that PC. :-) Software management the light way. To make it better you can use "filever" (ResKit) to check the version of VNC and to send updates etc. W2K makes it easier with Policies to distribute winvnc server -- Frank Carius -------------------------------------------- http://www.NetatWork.de , Riemeke Str 160, 33106 Paderborn Tel +495251 304 600, Fax +495251 304 650 no advertising or spam mails PLEASE!! Franks Exchange FAQ auf http://www.msexchangefaq.de Supportanfragen nur an support@netatwork.de -- > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Harris [mailto:richard.harris@nottscc.gov.uk] > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 12:03 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: VNC remote install and connection closed > > > Frank, > > > VNC running very well. Windows NT4 W2K always as service. > > Installation using "WINVNC -install" is working. I normally > insall it > > "remotely". It works with 3.3.2 but no longer with 3.3.3r9 > > I've got a script that installs VNC remotely to NT4 (with or > without a > domain). Check out www.darkage.co.uk/vnc/ > > Either have a pop with that, or use the commands I've put in to > tweak your batch file. > > > What i to: i create a batch top start as administrator: WINVNC ist > > installed locally as service with a password set Resource Kit Tools > > SC.EXE and REG.EXE are used > > You're on the right track, although the SC command can be a bit of > a bitch to get just right. I use this line: > > SC \\%1 create WinVNC binpath= "%remotetarget%:\Program > Files\ ORL\VNC\WinVNC.exe -service" type= own type= interact > start= auto > > NB: %remotetarget% is a value I pull from the remote machine to > find it's system drive. > > > I know i can schedule a "WINVNC -instal" using AT command > or WMI buw > > AT needs "time" and WMI is not always availible. So any hint, why > > winvnc does not allow me to control the station if i > install it with > > "SC.EXE" ? > > I'd stay away from AT if I were you. Getting the timing just right is > more problematic than it's worth. I found it a hell of a lot > easier to > push VNC on to a machine, rather than have the remote PC install > it at a set time period. > > HTH > Rich > > --------------------------------- > Richard Harris > Environment IT > Tel: 0115 977 4509 > --------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe > vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.htm> l > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From beasley@bigpond.net.au Tue Sep 4 11:53:50 2001 From: beasley@bigpond.net.au (Kevin-John Beasley) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 10:53:50 +0000 Subject: Problem connecting to VNC Server References: <002701c1351c$d25d4990$1f00a8c0@ia.co.uk> Message-ID: <002c01c13526$7bfaade0$0401a8c0@beasley.bpa.nu> See comments below. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian D'Amico" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 6:37 PM Subject: Problem connecting to VNC Server > Hi all, wondering if someone can help me. > > I've tried using VNC for the first time the other day. I loaded the server > software onto my home machine, which has a home network and an ADSL > connection through a USB port. > > The problem is, when I try to connect to either my hostname OR my IP, it > won't connect. The thing is though, it works when I try it from another > machine on my home network, so I'm doing *something* right, hehe. > >From the above it sounds like you are having trouble from connecting outside your network, ie via the internet. Or are you saying some machines on your internal network work while others don't. If you are using the internet make sure your hostname is properly updated in the dns servers and that pinging it works. And please make sure that you are not trying to connect to your internal network IP address. If you cannot ping your machine or you can ping it but still connot connect make sure that the necessary ports are open. Firstly if you are running firewall software you need to unblock these ports. If you are using Win 2k or NT 4 Server these ports can be locked from somewhere within network configuration (i think). If still no go check with your ADSL provider to make sure they do not filter or block certian ports as a security protection feature. Other than that some more info may help so everyone knows exactly what you are trying to do. > I've tried connecting from my cousin's machine, but still to no avail. I've > also tried setting the session number to something manually rather than > automatic, but still no go :/ > > Has anyone got any recommendations I could try to get this to work? > > Kind Regards, > > Christian D'Amico > Web Designer > Internet Assist Ltd > > Tel : +44 (0)208 547 3700 Fax : +44 (0)208 547 3600 > Web : http://www.i-a.co.uk Email : christian@i-a.co.uk > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Tue Sep 4 13:31:44 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 12:31:44 +0000 Subject: vnc as service on w2k Message-ID: Hi out there, being a novice in using vnc I'm doing something wrong or misunderstood: 1. I'm running vnc on a w2k machine as a service which works (tray icon present, service on automatic) however only after someone logged in 2. Obviously, after remote reboot I want to re-log in getting a "sorry" from -.-.:5800 or "authentication failed" from the viewer until logged in. I think I've followed all instructions properly. What am I dooing wrong? Dietmar [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From DavidB@mail.interclean.com Tue Sep 4 14:43:09 2001 From: DavidB@mail.interclean.com (David Brodbeck) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 13:43:09 +0000 Subject: Win2k Locked Workstation Message-ID: Shift-Ctrl-Alt-Del doesn't work when the viewer's running under Win98. You have to use the menu. It works under NT, though. -----Original Message----- From: Eric Gisse [mailto:jowr@sdf.lonestar.org] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 5:19 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Win2k Locked Workstation try shift-ctrl-alt-del At 11:21 AM 8/31/2001 -0700, you wrote: >I have a Win2k workstation at work and lock this station before I leave. At >home I have a Win98 system and using VNC 3.3r. I use the Web browser to >connect, but every time I enter my password, VNC automatically closes. If I >keep my workstation at work open and not locked, the connection gets through >no problem. Only when the Win2k system is locked does this problem arise. >I can connect through the normal Viewer but cannot send Ctl+Alt+Del through >this so it is useless to me. I need the browser.... > >Any suggestion at all would be appreaciated.. > >Thanks > >Roy Bosworth >Senior Manager IT/MIS >818-503-8100 >`.....??`...><(((,o>? >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list >to majordomo@uk.research.att.com >See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html >--------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From kizetoni@hotmail.com Tue Sep 4 15:27:59 2001 From: kizetoni@hotmail.com (Zoran Pantic) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 14:27:59 +0000 Subject: hidden "Start" console - CTRL + ESC sequence References: Message-ID: Hi All, when I am connecting to other windows PC that has Start Console that is set to "Auto Hide", it is very often hard to put the mouse in the right position so it becomes visible again. Normaly in any sort of windows I use CTRL + ESC if I want to access the Start Menu and Console quickly, but in VNC it brings my computer's Start Menu. Is there a way around this? Thanx in advance, Zoran --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From rlhamil@mindwarp.smart.net Tue Sep 4 15:38:52 2001 From: rlhamil@mindwarp.smart.net (Richard L. Hamilton) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 14:38:52 +0000 Subject: [patch] option for vncserver to allow more traditional exiting of X Message-ID: <200109041332.f84DWYN24060@mindwarp.smart.net> The attached patch adds a -wait option to the (Unix) vncserver script, for those who wish exit from twm, CDE logout, etc. to cause Xvnc to be terminated (and its client(s), too). The vncserver script itself also does not exit until then if the -wait option is used. For this to work, the $HOME/.vnc/xstartup script _must_ have as its last line whatever invokes the window manager (or whatever) that one will exit eventually, _without_ a terminating ampersand ("&"). That is, the command to wait on must not be backgrounded. If one doesn't already have a $HOME/.vnc/xstartup file, the changes will also cause the twm line to have (without -wait) or not have (with -wait) the terminating ampersand put in. Of course, it could be left off and it probably wouldn't matter anyway, since (without -wait) the command in vncserver that invokes $HOME/.vnc/xstartup does so in background. Since I'm presently using CDE, instead of "twm", my xstartup file ends with: test -x /etc/dt/config/Xsetup || /usr/dt/config/Xsetup /usr/dt/bin/Xsession which seems to be taking care of everything except the definitions of the copy/paste keys. In particular, logging out of CDE causes dtsession to terminate, which in turn causes the Xsession script to exit, and with the new -wait option, causes Xvnc to be killed. Without -wait (or in the original), the first logout attempt would go to the correct dtsession, but killing it wouldn't affect the server or the CDE window manager. Subsequent attempts would (when using the viewer while sitting at a local CDE desktop) communicate with another instance of dtsession altogether; presumably if it weren't running, the exit attempt would fail with no ToolTalk client listening for the corresponding message. Anyway, anyone else think this -wait option is useful? AFAIK, without using it, it doesn't break any kind of compatibility. And with it, one can get the sort of behavior that I (and others I stumbled across searching Usenet prior to finding this mailing list) seem to want. If it is useful, someone more comfortable with perl than I am might wish to pretty it up a bit; my concern was with getting the desired effect with the least amount of changes, not with Good Perl Scripting Practices. -- ftp> get |fortune 377 I/O error: smart remark generator failed Bogonics: the primary language inside the Beltway mailto:rlhamil@mindwarp.smart.net http://www.smart.net/~rlhamil *** vncserver.orig Tue Sep 4 08:38:53 2001 --- vncserver Tue Sep 4 08:40:34 2001 *************** *** 39,51 **** $vncUserDir = "$ENV{HOME}/.vnc"; $xauthorityFile = "$ENV{HOME}/.Xauthority"; - $defaultXStartup - = ("#!/bin/sh\n\n". - "xrdb \$HOME/.Xresources\n". - "xsetroot -solid grey\n". - "xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title \"\$VNCDESKTOP Desktop\" &\n". - "twm &\n"); - chop($host = `uname -n`); --- 39,44 ---- *************** *** 52,63 **** # Check command line options &ParseOptions("-geometry",1,"-depth",1,"-pixelformat",1,"-name",1,"-kill",1, ! "-help",0,"-h",0,"--help",0); &Usage() if ($opt{'-help'} || $opt{'-h'} || $opt{'--help'}); &Kill() if ($opt{'-kill'}); # Uncomment this line if you want default geometry, depth and pixelformat # to match the current X display: # &GetXDisplayDefaults(); --- 45,70 ---- # Check command line options &ParseOptions("-geometry",1,"-depth",1,"-pixelformat",1,"-name",1,"-kill",1, ! "-help",0,"-h",0,"--help",0,"-wait",0); &Usage() if ($opt{'-help'} || $opt{'-h'} || $opt{'--help'}); &Kill() if ($opt{'-kill'}); + if ($opt{'-wait'}) { + $background=''; + } + else { + $background='&'; + } + + $defaultXStartup + = ("#!/bin/sh\n\n". + "xrdb \$HOME/.Xresources\n". + "xsetroot -solid grey\n". + "xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title \"\$VNCDESKTOP Desktop\" &\n". + "twm $background\n"); + # Uncomment this line if you want default geometry, depth and pixelformat # to match the current X display: # &GetXDisplayDefaults(); *************** *** 191,197 **** } $ENV{VNCDESKTOP}= $desktopName; ! system("$vncUserDir/xstartup >> " . "edString($desktopLog) . " 2>&1 &"); exit; --- 198,207 ---- } $ENV{VNCDESKTOP}= $desktopName; ! system("$vncUserDir/xstartup >> " . "edString($desktopLog) . " 2>&1 $background"); ! if ($opt{'-wait'}) { ! system("vncserver -kill :$displayNumber"); ! } exit; --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From rudi.de.vos@simac.be Tue Sep 4 16:55:02 2001 From: rudi.de.vos@simac.be (Rudi De Vos) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 15:55:02 +0000 Subject: hook video driver Message-ID: Hi, Indeed that is the intention. At this point , I can capture drvbitblt drvcopybits and drvtextout calls(mirror video driver). A shared memory is setup between the video driver and winvnc, so vnc can pass and read some data from the driver. The biggest problem is to find a way to track the window changes using the data provided by thoose drv-functions. There exist a msdn document "Tracking window changes" . But this doc is not clear to me and has only partial code. Any help welcome Rudi -----Original Message----- From: Gianluca Bruni [mailto:gianluca@proximaautomation.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 2:01 PM To: Rudi De Vos Subject: Re: help with vnc video driver Hi, my name is Gianluca, from Italy. I've read your message in VNC forum about use of video driver in Win2k. What do you mean? Are you developing an hook video driver to get the screen updates? If so, please tell me something about that. Thanks Gianluca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From russ@thunderthumbs.net Tue Sep 4 16:57:14 2001 From: russ@thunderthumbs.net (Russ Paton) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 15:57:14 +0000 Subject: vnc as service on w2k In-Reply-To: > Hi out there, > being a novice in using vnc I'm doing something wrong or misunderstood: > 1. I'm running vnc on a w2k machine as a service which works (tray icon > present, service on automatic) > however only after someone logged in > 2. Obviously, after remote reboot I want to re-log in getting a "sorry" from > -.-.:5800 or "authentication > failed" from the viewer until logged in. > I think I've followed all instructions properly. What am I dooing wrong? > Dietmar Hi Dietmar, As long as you've clicked on the shortcut to install vncserver as a service it will work as soon as the network has been brought up on the booting machine. I've installed vnc on several machines across my network and this method works in each and every installation. Regards Russ -- Russ Paton --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From joemacmail@yahoo.com Tue Sep 4 17:00:20 2001 From: joemacmail@yahoo.com (Joe Mac) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 16:00:20 +0000 Subject: Using VNC For Two Systems In-Reply-To: <20010903215100.49971.qmail@web9507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010904145516.88122.qmail@web9601.mail.yahoo.com> I'd like to use VNC for two computers (Win2k) sitting side-by-side. I don't want to see the screen of the second computer on the first, I just want the mouse and keyboard to go to the second computer when I move the pointer off the right hand side of the first machine. Then when I move it off the left side of the second machine, control goes back to the first. Is there a way to do this? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From david.m.fisher@eds.com Tue Sep 4 17:46:03 2001 From: david.m.fisher@eds.com (Fisher, Dave) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 16:46:03 +0000 Subject: Interactively Disable Local Keyboard and Mouse Message-ID: <8AA870658244D4119AF600508BDF0A3604BC6502@usahm014.exmi01.ex ch.eds.com> I am using WinVNC on several NT PCs and I have set them all up to disable the local keyboard when I access them with VNCViewer. The problem is when I view one of them and someone is currently using it, It looks to them as if the PC locked up. I know I can enable the keyboard and mouse to work while I access the PC, but if I want to update something on the PC I would like to disable them while I am doing the update. Does anyone know of a way to interactively disable and enable the local keyboard and mouse? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Tue Sep 4 18:02:35 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 17:02:35 +0000 Subject: vnc as service on w2k In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000501c1355a$4e14cf80$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> It could be that you have set the user password not the default. this can be reached via start button -> programs -> vnc -> administrative tools -> show default settings. If there is a password shown by **** then just click ok. if not set it to the same as you are currently using and ok it. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 7:30 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: vnc as service on w2k Hi out there, being a novice in using vnc I'm doing something wrong or misunderstood: 1. I'm running vnc on a w2k machine as a service which works (tray icon present, service on automatic) however only after someone logged in 2. Obviously, after remote reboot I want to re-log in getting a "sorry" from -.-.:5800 or "authentication failed" from the viewer until logged in. I think I've followed all instructions properly. What am I dooing wrong? Dietmar [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sczjd@yahoo.com Tue Sep 4 18:17:28 2001 From: sczjd@yahoo.com (SI Reasoning) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 17:17:28 +0000 Subject: [patch] make vncpasswd create ~/.vnc if it doesn't exist In-Reply-To: <20010904093418.K20060@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20010904161011.48488.qmail@web9506.mail.yahoo.com> --- Tim Waugh wrote: > On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 12:31:13PM +1000, Andrew van > der Stock wrote: > > > The mode of the .vnc directory should be 700 not, > 755. There is no reason to > > create this directory as 755, as this allows any > user to discover the user's > > VNC password. > > Although the 'allows any user to discover the user's > VNC password' bit > is incorrect (see above), I agree that this > directory ought to be more > secure. That requires a change to the vncserver > script as well. > The biggest problem I see is that the password script can be easily deleted, then recreated... this would allow an attacker to get access to the gui desktop for a while (although it would be obvious someone has been in the system). They could thereby compromise the network or if the user that was cracked had enough authority, they could create there own account and replace the old password. This is way too easy! ===== SI Reasoning sczjd@yahoo.com gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Tue Sep 4 18:25:32 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 17:25:32 +0000 Subject: vnc as service on w2k In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Russ, I have inverted now the role of the w2k machines an it works (inversely). I have uninstalled the service on the machine it did not work in and re-installed it - no cigar I have set up a third pc and cross-checked it, hence I could identify that it won't work with the first I tried to use as a (vnc) server. Now, I know it could be many reasons why that is the case - despite the fact that I can't see any substantial difference between the three PCs - has anybody a clue where I could start investigating on that particular system (on which it won't work) why can't log in (i) after reboot and (ii) after log-off a n d disconnect while I can (iii) re-login if I donot disconnect? Thanx for whatsoever hint Dietmar -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Russ Paton Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 3:21 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: vnc as service on w2k > Hi out there, > being a novice in using vnc I'm doing something wrong or misunderstood: > 1. I'm running vnc on a w2k machine as a service which works (tray icon > present, service on automatic) > however only after someone logged in > 2. Obviously, after remote reboot I want to re-log in getting a "sorry" from > -.-.:5800 or "authentication > failed" from the viewer until logged in. > I think I've followed all instructions properly. What am I dooing wrong? > Dietmar Hi Dietmar, As long as you've clicked on the shortcut to install vncserver as a service it will work as soon as the network has been brought up on the booting machine. I've installed vnc on several machines across my network and this method works in each and every installation. Regards Russ -- Russ Paton --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalocz@tgtsolutions.com Tue Sep 4 18:26:11 2001 From: spalocz@tgtsolutions.com (Steve Palocz) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 17:26:11 +0000 Subject: Interactively Disable Local Keyboard and Mouse In-Reply-To: <8AA870658244D4119AF600508BDF0A3604BC6502@usahm014.exmi01.e x ch.eds.com> Message-ID: <000e01c1355d$96aaef60$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> First off, why don't you just notify the users when you will be doing updates. How would you like it if your boss comes by and said get out of your chair, I am using your system. Since the makers of VNC thought of this, There is an option you can set in the registry for a message to be displayed stating something about someone is taking control of this system do you want to let them... (what is even better is you can set it to disconnect or accept if it times out (no one is there)). Check the vnc doc, or the new version of Tight has this as an option on the advanced settings screen for the server. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Fisher, Dave Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 11:40 AM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: Interactively Disable Local Keyboard and Mouse I am using WinVNC on several NT PCs and I have set them all up to disable the local keyboard when I access them with VNCViewer. The problem is when I view one of them and someone is currently using it, It looks to them as if the PC locked up. I know I can enable the keyboard and mouse to work while I access the PC, but if I want to update something on the PC I would like to disable them while I am doing the update. Does anyone know of a way to interactively disable and enable the local keyboard and mouse? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From twaugh@redhat.com Tue Sep 4 18:27:40 2001 From: twaugh@redhat.com (Tim Waugh) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 17:27:40 +0000 Subject: [patch] make vncpasswd create ~/.vnc if it doesn't exist In-Reply-To: <20010904161011.48488.qmail@web9506.mail.yahoo.com>; from sczjd@yahoo.com on Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 09:10:11AM -0700 References: <20010904093418.K20060@redhat.com> <20010904161011.48488.qmail@web9506.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010904172211.A20060@redhat.com> On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 09:10:11AM -0700, SI Reasoning wrote: > The biggest problem I see is that the password script > can be easily deleted, then recreated... How? What am I missing? Tim. */ [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sczjd@yahoo.com Tue Sep 4 18:58:51 2001 From: sczjd@yahoo.com (SI Reasoning) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 17:58:51 +0000 Subject: [patch] make vncpasswd create ~/.vnc if it doesn't exist In-Reply-To: <20010904172211.A20060@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20010904165250.72493.qmail@web9505.mail.yahoo.com> I reacted too soon... I missed the part about the password file being 600. --- Tim Waugh wrote: > On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 09:10:11AM -0700, SI > Reasoning wrote: > > > The biggest problem I see is that the password > script > > can be easily deleted, then recreated... > > How? What am I missing? > > Tim. > */ > > [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type > application/pgp-signature] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== SI Reasoning sczjd@yahoo.com gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From stefane.bridy@bigfoot.com Tue Sep 4 20:00:45 2001 From: stefane.bridy@bigfoot.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?St=E9fane_Bridy?=) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 19:00:45 +0000 Subject: Task bar menu : ctrl-escape , how ? Message-ID: <3B95320A.11444.B02450@localhost> Hello I think it's impossible to display the Start Menu remotely, as the Ctrl- Esc brings up the menu and task bar on the local computer. On the remote computer, I don't have a program running which stays on top, unless Ctrl-Escape is depressed. But not working as I said. It would be nice to implement, in the VNC menu a "Send Ctrl+Escape" item, as "Send Ctrl-Alt-Del" already exists. Tell me if this is planned, or if there is another way, please. Thanx in advance. Stifane from Switzerland --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From zmargareten@CJH.org Tue Sep 4 22:48:32 2001 From: zmargareten@CJH.org (Zalman Margareten) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 21:48:32 +0000 Subject: SOCKS 5 support added to Win32 VNC Viewer Message-ID: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E511268E@CFJH> Directly, http://www.seanster.com/vnc/vncviewer.exe -----Original Message----- From: Ceri Hankey [mailto:ccah@thegreen.co.uk] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 6:56 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: SOCKS 5 support added to Win32 VNC Viewer Sorry, but my proxy server tells me for the nth time ... Error : Can't connect to host www.google.com on port 80! Reason : Connect timeout. Error detected by WinProxy 1.4 If you can mail it to me at ceri_hankey@wanadoo.fr Thank you very much! Regards Ceri Hankey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Seanster" To: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 5:57 AM Subject: Re: SOCKS 5 support added to Win32 VNC Viewer > Just a brief net outage. I can mail it if anyone has trouble beyond that. > -Sean > > > On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 00:51:38 +0200, you wrote: > > >I cannot get thru to your site ... > >http://www.Seanster.com/vnc/ > > > >Can you give another source for your stuff? > > > >Thanks > > > >Ceri Hankey > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of vncviewer.exe.url] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From david.m.fisher@eds.com Tue Sep 4 22:48:34 2001 From: david.m.fisher@eds.com (Fisher, Dave) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 21:48:34 +0000 Subject: Interactively Disable Local Keyboard and Mouse Message-ID: <8AA870658244D4119AF600508BDF0A3604BC6503@usahm014.exmi01.ex ch.eds.com> These are shop floor PCs that I want to be able to view from my desk without inhibiting input from someone on the shop floor if the are using it. If I see it is not being used. I want to lock out input from the local keyboard and then take over control of it. The registry settings you talk about will not work since the query option will only give me access to the PC if someone is at the PC and using it. I do not want to access it then, I want to access it if no one is there. If no one is there, then no one can accept my request and I will not be able to access the PC. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Palocz [mailto:spalocz@tgtsolutions.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 12:21 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Interactively Disable Local Keyboard and Mouse First off, why don't you just notify the users when you will be doing updates. How would you like it if your boss comes by and said get out of your chair, I am using your system. Since the makers of VNC thought of this, There is an option you can set in the registry for a message to be displayed stating something about someone is taking control of this system do you want to let them... (what is even better is you can set it to disconnect or accept if it times out (no one is there)). Check the vnc doc, or the new version of Tight has this as an option on the advanced settings screen for the server. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Fisher, Dave Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 11:40 AM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: Interactively Disable Local Keyboard and Mouse I am using WinVNC on several NT PCs and I have set them all up to disable the local keyboard when I access them with VNCViewer. The problem is when I view one of them and someone is currently using it, It looks to them as if the PC locked up. I know I can enable the keyboard and mouse to work while I access the PC, but if I want to update something on the PC I would like to disable them while I am doing the update. Does anyone know of a way to interactively disable and enable the local keyboard and mouse? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From lindac65@earthlink.net Tue Sep 4 23:19:48 2001 From: lindac65@earthlink.net (Linda Worthington) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 22:19:48 +0000 Subject: Ctrl Alt Del Message-ID: <004d01c13586$d81c2ee0$676412ac@LINDA500> I am running a W2K server with VNC 3.3.3. Is there any way that a system can be accessed with VNC as a service, running but the system is locked or has been rebooted? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From lindac65@earthlink.net Tue Sep 4 23:30:39 2001 From: lindac65@earthlink.net (Linda Worthington) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 22:30:39 +0000 Subject: vnc as service on w2k References: Message-ID: <00c401c13588$728381d0$676412ac@LINDA500> Is there any way, once a system has been rebooted, and VNC is running as a service, to access the machine? If the machine is on the network it is visable even at the login screen so VNC should be running since it is a service. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russ Paton" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 9:21 AM Subject: Re: vnc as service on w2k > > Hi out there, > > being a novice in using vnc I'm doing something wrong or misunderstood: > > 1. I'm running vnc on a w2k machine as a service which works (tray icon > > present, service on automatic) > > however only after someone logged in > > 2. Obviously, after remote reboot I want to re-log in getting a "sorry" from > > -.-.:5800 or "authentication > > failed" from the viewer until logged in. > > I think I've followed all instructions properly. What am I dooing wrong? > > Dietmar > > Hi Dietmar, > > As long as you've clicked on the shortcut to install vncserver as a service > it will work as soon as the network has been brought up on the booting > machine. I've installed vnc on several machines across my network and > this method works in each and every installation. > > Regards > > Russ > -- > Russ Paton > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From mjackson@wrc.xerox.com Tue Sep 4 23:47:15 2001 From: mjackson@wrc.xerox.com (Mark Jackson) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 22:47:15 +0000 Subject: Sun Meta key handling in VNC Message-ID: <200109042143.RAA06771@yngvi.wrc.xerox.com> I must be doing something stupid, because if this were a real problem it would surely be in the FAQ: Sun's Cut, Copy, and Paste keys can be emulated with the key combinations Meta-x, Meta-c, and Meta-v. When running an X server such as Xoftware on PC hardware one uses Alt-x, Alt-c, and Alt-v instead. These mappings work when using VNC, but only for *some* Solaris applications. That is, I can run vncviewer from a Solaris box and use the Meta key combinations, or run vncviewer from a Wintel box (NT or 98) and use the Alt key combinations, and achieve the Cut, Copy, Paste function in, for example, OpenWindows Textedit. However these same combinations fail in, for example, OpenWindows Mailtool compose windows (a bare x, c, or v is inserted instead). To reiterate, when working directly (not through VNC) the Meta key combinations work in all programs, as do the Alt key combinations when working from a Wintel box using Xoftware. What is different about the way VNC handles the Alt or Meta key (either server-side or client-side), and how do I get it to stop? -- Mark Jackson - http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson Physics is like sex. Sure it has some practical results, but that's not why we do it. - Richard Feynman --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Wed Sep 5 00:10:46 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 23:10:46 +0000 Subject: vnc as service on w2k In-Reply-To: <00c401c13588$728381d0$676412ac@LINDA500> Message-ID: The funny thing is that the system could be pinged, ftped, networkneighourhooded httped etc, except one thing: once either (vnc-) disconnected after local or remote log out of the active user or reboot of the remote systeme it wouldn't accept any login. As mentioned in an earlier posting miraculous things happened after a third independent system was added to the network and nothing else was changed, it worked - it still works, and I can't reproduce the problem any more. Appologies to the community - I'm simply baffled. -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Linda Worthington Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 11:27 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: vnc as service on w2k Is there any way, once a system has been rebooted, and VNC is running as a service, to access the machine? If the machine is on the network it is visable even at the login screen so VNC should be running since it is a service. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russ Paton" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 9:21 AM Subject: Re: vnc as service on w2k > > Hi out there, > > being a novice in using vnc I'm doing something wrong or misunderstood: > > 1. I'm running vnc on a w2k machine as a service which works (tray icon > > present, service on automatic) > > however only after someone logged in > > 2. Obviously, after remote reboot I want to re-log in getting a "sorry" from > > -.-.:5800 or "authentication > > failed" from the viewer until logged in. > > I think I've followed all instructions properly. What am I dooing wrong? > > Dietmar > > Hi Dietmar, > > As long as you've clicked on the shortcut to install vncserver as a service > it will work as soon as the network has been brought up on the booting > machine. I've installed vnc on several machines across my network and > this method works in each and every installation. > > Regards > > Russ > -- > Russ Paton > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From throopw@sheol.org Wed Sep 5 00:34:59 2001 From: throopw@sheol.org (Wayne Throop) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 23:34:59 +0000 Subject: status of scaling Message-ID: <999642183@sheol.org> I'm not sure what the current status of support for scaling on various platforms, or in proxy. Could somebody summarize it? My interest in scaling is from either a Windows CE device to a linux desktop (hence, server-side or proxy-based scaling), or linux laptop to linux desktop (just to make operation more convenient than fishing around with a viewport). With these interests, it would seem that a dedicated proxy process that one could start up on demand to do scaling for the various sizes involved, and which would do antialiasing so that text would remain minimally readable when scaled down modestly (ie, 1280x1024 -> 1023x768 or similar). Neither of these (proxy packaging, or useful antialiasing / interpolation) seem to be done at all, let alone in the linux/unix environment. I'd be delighted to be wrong about that... can anybody help with pointers? Wayne Throop throopw@sheol.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeff.veit@tanasity.com Wed Sep 5 01:45:56 2001 From: jeff.veit@tanasity.com (Jeff Veit) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 00:45:56 +0000 Subject: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit Message-ID: <004d01c1359b$fe2b7b30$d190fd3e@bigboy2kpro> Hi there, Running a 700 Mhz Athlon with a 3dfx Voodoo 3 display adapter. Lots of disk space. 128MB memory. Win2k Pro, service pack 2. No known issues with the hardware configuration. If I start my machine, start VNC in app mode, wait till the icon appears on my task bar, and then right mouse click on the icon, and Exit, about 2 out of 3 times I get an immediate reboot of my machine. No shutdown - it's as if I pressed the reset key. I had thought it was limited to this circumstance, but I just managed to whack out my machine after some hours of running when I tried to Exit VNC. No mention of this in the mailing list that I can find so I thought I'd log it. Regards, Jeff Veit http://www.tanasity.com/ - Tanasity develops software and net applications http://www.tangledtime.com/ - Discussion about the net, software and business - come and contribute. Technophiles, it's PHP. Feel free to discuss the merits of server side development languages and environments. Tanasity Tel: +44 (0)1223 721513 Email: jeff.veit@tanasity.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ajv@greebo.net Wed Sep 5 02:04:29 2001 From: ajv@greebo.net (Andrew van der Stock) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 01:04:29 +0000 Subject: [patch] make vncpasswd create ~/.vnc if it doesn't exist In-Reply-To: <20010904093418.K20060@redhat.com> Message-ID: It'd still be better if both this code and the install script are modified to create files and directories with effectively "u=rwX,go=". The risk from unchecked environment variables could be in the future if someone decides to package VNC as a setuid or setgid program and trusts the current code base (incorrectly but...) implicitly. It's easy to do the necessary checking to prevent a buffer overrun. In my opinion, this is doubly true of any portion of the program that is dedicated to security management. Yes, I was a bit hasty in my last statement. You do check the result (me bad!). Andrew -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Tim Waugh Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2001 18:34 To: Andrew van der Stock Cc: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: [patch] make vncpasswd create ~/.vnc if it doesn't exist On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 12:31:13PM +1000, Andrew van der Stock wrote: > NO! NO! NO! NO!* I know what you mean; I was horified myself to learn that the user's .vnc directory has world execute permission. But the passwd file has mode 600 (see the code that creates it in the library). I was just extending the existing convention: take a look at how the vncserver script creates the .vnc directory. > Do not EVER trust the environment, particularly when using sprintf() with > bounded arrays! This is how we got into all that locale, xmcd, kerberos, > dtmail (and so on... the list is endless) bother. Well, to be honest, the risk here is hard to see: * If the user's HOME environment variable is somehow changed by an attacker, they are in trouble anyhow since the VNC library is about to fopen(...,"w") the passwd file. * Otherwise the HOME environment variable is sane, so we should worry about symlink attacks. Wait---a symlink attack on a user, in their own home directory? How? > The mode of the .vnc directory should be 700 not, 755. There is no reason to > create this directory as 755, as this allows any user to discover the user's > VNC password. Although the 'allows any user to discover the user's VNC password' bit is incorrect (see above), I agree that this directory ought to be more secure. That requires a change to the vncserver script as well. > Test the error result, don't just ignore it! Where do I ignore an error result? Thanks for the feedback. Tim. */ [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gbendotti@agric.wa.gov.au Wed Sep 5 02:06:39 2001 From: gbendotti@agric.wa.gov.au (Bendotti, Gerard) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 01:06:39 +0000 Subject: Task bar menu : ctrl-escape , how ? Message-ID: <2BCD8A1EC385D311AE9B00062950091901F00A2B@agspsrv19.agric.wa .gov.au> It is a bit clunky, but send ctrl down, hit the [Ecs] key, send ctrl up works for me. Gerard > -----Original Message----- > From: Stifane Bridy [SMTP:stefane.bridy@bigfoot.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 1:57 AM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Task bar menu : ctrl-escape , how ? > > Hello > > I think it's impossible to display the Start Menu remotely, as the Ctrl- > Esc brings up the menu and task bar on the local computer. > > On the remote computer, I don't have a program running which > stays on top, unless Ctrl-Escape is depressed. But not working as I > said. > > It would be nice to implement, in the VNC menu a "Send > Ctrl+Escape" item, as "Send Ctrl-Alt-Del" already exists. > > Tell me if this is planned, or if there is another way, please. > > Thanx in advance. > > Stifane from Switzerland > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pkrala@vsc.teksystems.com Wed Sep 5 02:44:25 2001 From: pkrala@vsc.teksystems.com (Peter Krala) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 01:44:25 +0000 Subject: Using VNC For Two Systems Message-ID: If I understand what you are trying to do correctly, probably the easiest way to do this would be take advantage of Win2K support for multiple monitors: Have PC1 configured with the two monitors. Use PC1 to connect to PC2 (which can be located anywhere at this point). Monitor1-on-PC1 would be your regular desktop (or whatever) and Monitor2-on-PC1 would be a VNC session to PC2. When the mouse moves to Monitor2-on-PC1, it will able to transfer keyboard/mouse to PC2 via the VNC session. In principal you should be able to do this up to the maximum number of moniotrs supported by Win2K. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Mac Date: Tuesday, September 4, 2001 10:55 am Subject: Using VNC For Two Systems > I'd like to use VNC for two computers (Win2k) sitting > side-by-side. I don't want to see the screen of the > second computer on the first, I just want the mouse > and keyboard to go to the second computer when I move > the pointer off the right hand side of the first > machine. Then when I move it off the left side of the > second machine, control goes back to the first. > > Is there a way to do this? > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! > Messengerhttp://im.yahoo.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jowr@sdf.lonestar.org Wed Sep 5 03:15:56 2001 From: jowr@sdf.lonestar.org (Eric Gisse) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 02:15:56 +0000 Subject: hidden "Start" console - CTRL + ESC sequence In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010904171316.02309910@mail.freeshell.org> what you do is add shift to any key sequence that windows captures shift control alt del shift alt tab shift control escape control C/V/P doesnt need shift because windows doesnt capture it hope this helps At 03:21 PM 9/4/2001 +0200, you wrote: >Hi All, > >when I am connecting to other windows PC that has Start Console that is set to >"Auto Hide", it is very often hard to put the mouse in the right position so >it becomes visible again. Normaly in any sort of windows I use CTRL + ESC if I >want to access the Start Menu and Console quickly, but in VNC it brings my >computer's Start Menu. > >Is there a way around this? > >Thanx in advance, > > Zoran >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list >to majordomo@uk.research.att.com >See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html >--------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jowr@sdf.lonestar.org Wed Sep 5 03:18:27 2001 From: jowr@sdf.lonestar.org (Eric Gisse) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 02:18:27 +0000 Subject: Task bar menu : ctrl-escape , how ? In-Reply-To: <3B95320A.11444.B02450@localhost> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010904171450.00aef010@mail.freeshell.org> shift control escape or code it into VNCviewer :) At 07:56 PM 9/4/2001 +0200, you wrote: >Hello > >I think it's impossible to display the Start Menu remotely, as the Ctrl- >Esc brings up the menu and task bar on the local computer. > >On the remote computer, I don't have a program running which >stays on top, unless Ctrl-Escape is depressed. But not working as I >said. > >It would be nice to implement, in the VNC menu a "Send >Ctrl+Escape" item, as "Send Ctrl-Alt-Del" already exists. > >Tell me if this is planned, or if there is another way, please. > >Thanx in advance. > > Stifane from Switzerland >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list >to majordomo@uk.research.att.com >See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html >--------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sbest@best.com Wed Sep 5 07:28:12 2001 From: sbest@best.com (Scott C. Best) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 06:28:12 +0000 Subject: New user In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Spencer: Heya. Sorry for the late reply. Since you get as far as the password prompt, it doesn't sound as if any of the VPN setup is getting in the way. My experience with the viewer "turning all black and then shutting down" suggests to try a different viewer: the the browser, the TightVNC viewer or Tridia's. Unfortunately, they do not seem to behave exactly the same when I run them across SSH tunnels; perhaps you'll see the same effect. Hope this helps! -Scott > Here is my setup. > Corporate- NT Server, BDC running behind a Linksys BEFSR41 nat router. > Public IP on the Wan side of the Linksys router. Forwarding ports 80, 25, > 110, and 1723 (for Linksys to work with VPN) to the 192.168.xxx.xxx NT BDC. > > Remote- NT Workstation, running behind a Linksys BEFSR41 nat router, dynamic > public IP (which has not changed in months). > > The Problem: > I have loaded WinVNC onto that server and can use the Win 98 client viewer > while on the local LAN. However, when on the remote NT Workstation I can > successfully connect to Corporate, but I cannot successfully run the WinNT > VNC client. I can enter the IP address of the remote machine, I get prompted > for a password and the remote screen initiates, then turns all black, and > then shuts down. > > Question: > Has anyone successfully connected VNC via a VPN tunnel of any type, and > specifically the type described above. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From rudi.de.vos@simac.be Wed Sep 5 09:37:47 2001 From: rudi.de.vos@simac.be (Rudi De Vos) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 08:37:47 +0000 Subject: hook video driver Message-ID: Look at the code at www.codeguru.com dll apihijack -----Original Message----- From: Gianluca Bruni [mailto:gianluca@proximaautomation.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 7:20 PM To: Rudi De Vos Subject: R: hook video driver Hi, thaks for reply. I apologize I can't help you. I'm a Windows programmer but I have not tools to develop video drivers (I guess you use something like SDDK or similar). Your approach works in WinNT/Win2K. Do you know how to hook video driver under Win95/Win98? Another strategy could be, as I read in WinVNC FAQ, to hook GDI32.DLL. What do you think? Bye Gianluca -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Rudi De Vos < rudi.de.vos@simac.be> A: Gianluca Bruni < gianluca@proximaautomation.com> Cc: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com < vnc-list@uk.research.att.com> Data: martedl 4 settembre 2001 16.49 Oggetto: hook video driver Hi, Indeed that is the intention. At this point , I can capture drvbitblt drvcopybits and drvtextout calls(mirror video driver). A shared memory is setup between the video driver and winvnc, so vnc can pass and read some data from the driver. The biggest problem is to find a way to track the window changes using the data provided by thoose drv-functions. There exist a msdn document "Tracking window changes" . But this doc is not clear to me and has only partial code. Any help welcome Rudi -----Original Message----- From: Gianluca Bruni [mailto:gianluca@proximaautomation.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 2:01 PM To: Rudi De Vos Subject: Re: help with vnc video driver Hi, my name is Gianluca, from Italy. I've read your message in VNC forum about use of video driver in Win2k. What do you mean? Are you developing an hook video driver to get the screen updates? If so, please tell me something about that. Thanks Gianluca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From beasley@bigpond.net.au Wed Sep 5 11:09:37 2001 From: beasley@bigpond.net.au (Kevin-John Beasley) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 10:09:37 +0000 Subject: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit References: <004d01c1359b$fe2b7b30$d190fd3e@bigboy2kpro> Message-ID: <003001c135e9$8734a170$0401a8c0@beasley.bpa.nu> Check your system settings and cmake sure that the machine does not auto-reboot after a blue screen of death. I had a server doing something like this when loading a specific program and what I found was that the memory dump was so quick I never saw the blue screen. If that's not the problem I guess someone who knows more about the VNC coding will need to look at this as I have no idea. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Veit" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:46 AM Subject: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit > Hi there, > > Running a 700 Mhz Athlon with a 3dfx Voodoo 3 display adapter. Lots of disk > space. 128MB memory. Win2k Pro, service pack 2. No known issues with the > hardware configuration. > > If I start my machine, start VNC in app mode, wait till the icon appears on my > task bar, and then right mouse click on the icon, and Exit, about 2 out of 3 > times I get an immediate reboot of my machine. No shutdown - it's as if I > pressed the reset key. > > I had thought it was limited to this circumstance, but I just managed to whack > out my machine after some hours of running when I tried to Exit VNC. > > No mention of this in the mailing list that I can find so I thought I'd log > it. > > Regards, > > Jeff Veit > > http://www.tanasity.com/ - Tanasity develops software and net applications > http://www.tangledtime.com/ - Discussion about the net, software and business > - come and contribute. Technophiles, it's PHP. Feel free to discuss the merits > of server side development languages and environments. > > Tanasity > Tel: +44 (0)1223 721513 > Email: jeff.veit@tanasity.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From kizetoni@hotmail.com Wed Sep 5 11:27:32 2001 From: kizetoni@hotmail.com (Zoran Pantic) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 10:27:32 +0000 Subject: hidden "Start" console - CTRL + ESC sequence References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010904171316.02309910@mail.freeshell.org> Message-ID: Eric, thanx for the help. But, I tried those things you suggested, and the only one that works is the first one; both shift+alt+tab and shift+ctrl+escape are executing on my win2000pro viewer machine, and not on the vnc server machine. It is strange that the first one works, and two others don't....? Regards, Zoran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Gisse" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 3:14 AM Subject: Re: hidden "Start" console - CTRL + ESC sequence > what you do is add shift to any key sequence that windows captures > > shift control alt del > shift alt tab > shift control escape > > control C/V/P doesnt need shift because windows doesnt capture it > > hope this helps --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Wed Sep 5 11:29:05 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 10:29:05 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available References: Message-ID: <000b01c1357b$c5b49400$0201a8c0@athlon1000> Hi All, A new version of VNC Commander is available for download. I have incorporated some of your ideas into this release, such as: Improved details view, now has sort arrows on the column headers, and it remembers where you left it last. Display name does not change when editing the server address. One connection can be set to autoconnect when the program is started. Large Icon view is now sorted. And other little things. You can download it for free at: http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com Ciao, Tony Caduto --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From kizetoni@hotmail.com Wed Sep 5 11:39:38 2001 From: kizetoni@hotmail.com (Zoran Pantic) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 10:39:38 +0000 Subject: Bug report - Win2k machine reboots References: <004d01c1359b$fe2b7b30$d190fd3e@bigboy2kpro> <003001c135e9$8734a170$0401a8c0@beasley.bpa.nu> Message-ID: I have the same problem with my win2000pro sp2 machine, and that problem was there before I had sp2, and even before I had VNC. On our little LAN there are other computers who have VNC running the whole time and no problems, ever! I can see in a event viewer that "machine was restarted after a bugcheck", but to me it looks exactly like I pressed hardware reset key. I have fought against this problem (that occurs occasionaly - 2 or 3 times in one day, and then a pause for 10 days or even a month) for so many months now, that I learned to live with this problem (and developed almost unconcous reaction on my left hand, called "CTRL + S sequence" :o) If anyone ever comes to solve this problem, please post it somewhere. Now I even started to think about possible relation between computers hardware and some program(s) (I have IBM ThinkPad 600X laptop) - that's how desperate one can get not being able to solve a problem that occurs occasionally, not obviously related to a visible cause. :o) Regards, Zoran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin-John Beasley" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 11:02 AM Subject: Re: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit > Check your system settings and cmake sure that the machine does not > auto-reboot after a blue screen of death. I had a server doing something > like this when loading a specific program and what I found was that the > memory dump was so quick I never saw the blue screen. If that's not the > problem I guess someone who knows more about the VNC coding will need to > look at this as I have no idea. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Veit" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:46 AM > Subject: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit > > > > Hi there, > > > > Running a 700 Mhz Athlon with a 3dfx Voodoo 3 display adapter. Lots of > disk > > space. 128MB memory. Win2k Pro, service pack 2. No known issues with the > > hardware configuration. > > > > If I start my machine, start VNC in app mode, wait till the icon appears > on my > > task bar, and then right mouse click on the icon, and Exit, about 2 out of > 3 > > times I get an immediate reboot of my machine. No shutdown - it's as if I > > pressed the reset key. > > > > I had thought it was limited to this circumstance, but I just managed to > whack > > out my machine after some hours of running when I tried to Exit VNC. > > > > No mention of this in the mailing list that I can find so I thought I'd > log > > it. > > > > Regards, > > > > Jeff Veit > > > > http://www.tanasity.com/ - Tanasity develops software and net applications > > http://www.tangledtime.com/ - Discussion about the net, software and > business > > - come and contribute. Technophiles, it's PHP. Feel free to discuss the > merits > > of server side development languages and environments. > > > > Tanasity > > Tel: +44 (0)1223 721513 > > Email: jeff.veit@tanasity.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeff.veit@tanasity.com Wed Sep 5 11:47:06 2001 From: jeff.veit@tanasity.com (Jeff Veit) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 10:47:06 +0000 Subject: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit References: <004d01c1359b$fe2b7b30$d190fd3e@bigboy2kpro> <003001c135e9$8734a170$0401a8c0@beasley.bpa.nu> Message-ID: <008b01c135f0$130fa4a0$d190fd3e@bigboy2kpro> Thanks, Yeah I do auto reboot on. It's quite possible that's what's happening - I've got it set to only write a small memory dump. I'll switch auto reboot off and see what happens. Thanks again. Jeff http://www.tanasity.com/ - Tanasity develops software and net applications http://www.tangledtime.com/ - Discussion about the net, software and business - come and contribute. Technophiles, it's PHP. Feel free to discuss the merits of server side development languages and environments. Tanasity Tel: +44 (0)1223 721513 Email: jeff.veit@tanasity.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin-John Beasley" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:02 AM Subject: Re: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit > Check your system settings and cmake sure that the machine does not > auto-reboot after a blue screen of death. I had a server doing something > like this when loading a specific program and what I found was that the > memory dump was so quick I never saw the blue screen. If that's not the > problem I guess someone who knows more about the VNC coding will need to > look at this as I have no idea. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Veit" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:46 AM > Subject: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit > > > > Hi there, > > > > Running a 700 Mhz Athlon with a 3dfx Voodoo 3 display adapter. Lots of > disk > > space. 128MB memory. Win2k Pro, service pack 2. No known issues with the > > hardware configuration. > > > > If I start my machine, start VNC in app mode, wait till the icon appears > on my > > task bar, and then right mouse click on the icon, and Exit, about 2 out of > 3 > > times I get an immediate reboot of my machine. No shutdown - it's as if I > > pressed the reset key. > > > > I had thought it was limited to this circumstance, but I just managed to > whack > > out my machine after some hours of running when I tried to Exit VNC. > > > > No mention of this in the mailing list that I can find so I thought I'd > log > > it. > > > > Regards, > > > > Jeff Veit > > > > http://www.tanasity.com/ - Tanasity develops software and net applications > > http://www.tangledtime.com/ - Discussion about the net, software and > business > > - come and contribute. Technophiles, it's PHP. Feel free to discuss the > merits > > of server side development languages and environments. > > > > Tanasity > > Tel: +44 (0)1223 721513 > > Email: jeff.veit@tanasity.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From yan@cardinalengineering.com Wed Sep 5 12:19:36 2001 From: yan@cardinalengineering.com (Yan Seiner) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 11:19:36 +0000 Subject: Bug report - Win2k machine reboots References: <004d01c1359b$fe2b7b30$d190fd3e@bigboy2kpro> <003001c135e9$8734a170$0401a8c0@beasley.bpa.nu> Message-ID: <3B95FBC7.D7A1BA40@cardinalengineering.com> I fought a similar problem on a linux-based toshiba laptop. I finally solved the problem by turning off as much of the power saving stuff as possible. I would disable all power management, sound, multimedia, etc. and see if the problem persists. Then enable one at a time. I've found apm to be the source of more evil reboots and freezes than almost anything else. --Yan Zoran Pantic wrote: > > I have the same problem with my win2000pro sp2 machine, and that problem was > there before I had sp2, and even before I had VNC. On our little LAN there are > other computers who have VNC running the whole time and no problems, ever! > > I can see in a event viewer that "machine was restarted after a bugcheck", but > to me it looks exactly like I pressed hardware reset key. > > I have fought against this problem (that occurs occasionaly - 2 or 3 times in > one day, and then a pause for 10 days or even a month) for so many months now, > that I learned to live with this problem (and developed almost unconcous > reaction on my left hand, called "CTRL + S sequence" :o) > > If anyone ever comes to solve this problem, please post it somewhere. Now I > even started to think about possible relation between computers hardware and > some program(s) (I have IBM ThinkPad 600X laptop) - that's how desperate one > can get not being able to solve a problem that occurs occasionally, not > obviously related to a visible cause. :o) > > Regards, > > Zoran --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jnw22@cam.ac.uk Wed Sep 5 12:20:42 2001 From: jnw22@cam.ac.uk (James ''Wez'' Weatherall) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 11:20:42 +0000 Subject: hook video driver Message-ID: <004801c135f3$f22c9e60$1062a981@eng.cam.ac.uk> Rudi, I noticed your mail to the VNC list regarding a hooking video driver. >From your mail, it sounds as though you have this on Windows 2000/NT. Is that correct? You mentioned some confusion in tracking window changes. Can you give more detail as to why this confusion exists, and I'll make suggestions if I can. Cheers, --- James "Wez" Weatherall "The path to enlightenment is /usr/bin/enlightenment" Laboratory for Communications Engineering, Cambridge - Tel : 766513 AT&T Labs Cambridge, UK - Tel : 343000 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jnw22@cam.ac.uk Wed Sep 5 12:25:49 2001 From: jnw22@cam.ac.uk (James ''Wez'' Weatherall) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 11:25:49 +0000 Subject: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit Message-ID: <005001c135f4$c6653b60$1062a981@eng.cam.ac.uk> Jeff, Have you tried running WinVNC as any other user (especially non-administrative ones) and doing the same thing? It sounds as though your machine may have a virus or hardware problem. No application should be able to cause an instant reset of an NT/2K box unless NT/2K has a bug that allows it, or the installation is in some way broken. Cheers, --- James "Wez" Weatherall "The path to enlightenment is /usr/bin/enlightenment" Laboratory for Communications Engineering, Cambridge - Tel : 766513 AT&T Labs Cambridge, UK - Tel : 343000 --- Hi there, Running a 700 Mhz Athlon with a 3dfx Voodoo 3 display adapter. Lots of disk space. 128MB memory. Win2k Pro, service pack 2. No known issues with the hardware configuration. If I start my machine, start VNC in app mode, wait till the icon appears on my task bar, and then right mouse click on the icon, and Exit, about 2 out of 3 times I get an immediate reboot of my machine. No shutdown - it's as if I pressed the reset key. I had thought it was limited to this circumstance, but I just managed to whack out my machine after some hours of running when I tried to Exit VNC. No mention of this in the mailing list that I can find so I thought I'd log it. Regards, Jeff Veit http://www.tanasity.com/ - Tanasity develops software and net applications http://www.tangledtime.com/ - Discussion about the net, software and business - - come and contribute. Technophiles, it's PHP. Feel free to discuss the merits of server side development languages and environments. Tanasity Tel: +44 (0)1223 721513 Email: jeff.veit@tanasity.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From kizetoni@hotmail.com Wed Sep 5 13:05:17 2001 From: kizetoni@hotmail.com (Zoran Pantic) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 12:05:17 +0000 Subject: "reboot on": Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit References: <004d01c1359b$fe2b7b30$d190fd3e@bigboy2kpro> <003001c135e9$8734a170$0401a8c0@beasley.bpa.nu> <008b01c135f0$130fa4a0$d190fd3e@bigboy2kpro> Message-ID: Hi Jeff, what do you mean having "reboot on", and having a small memory dump? I aks because my machine is also bubbling about "saving memory dump" whilst those sudden restarts... Where do I find this "auto reboot" settings, and how do I switch it off? Thanx in advance, Zoran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Veit" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 11:49 AM Subject: Re: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit > Thanks, > > Yeah I do auto reboot on. It's quite possible that's what's happening - I've > got it set to only write a small memory dump. I'll switch auto reboot off > and see what happens. Thanks again. > > Jeff > > http://www.tanasity.com/ - Tanasity develops software and net applications > http://www.tangledtime.com/ - Discussion about the net, software and > business - come and contribute. Technophiles, it's PHP. Feel free to discuss > the merits of server side development languages and environments. > > Tanasity > Tel: +44 (0)1223 721513 > Email: jeff.veit@tanasity.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin-John Beasley" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:02 AM > Subject: Re: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit > > > > Check your system settings and cmake sure that the machine does not > > auto-reboot after a blue screen of death. I had a server doing something > > like this when loading a specific program and what I found was that the > > memory dump was so quick I never saw the blue screen. If that's not the > > problem I guess someone who knows more about the VNC coding will need to > > look at this as I have no idea. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jeff Veit" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:46 AM > > Subject: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit > > > > > > > Hi there, > > > > > > Running a 700 Mhz Athlon with a 3dfx Voodoo 3 display adapter. Lots of > > disk > > > space. 128MB memory. Win2k Pro, service pack 2. No known issues with the > > > hardware configuration. > > > > > > If I start my machine, start VNC in app mode, wait till the icon appears > > on my > > > task bar, and then right mouse click on the icon, and Exit, about 2 out > of > > 3 > > > times I get an immediate reboot of my machine. No shutdown - it's as if > I > > > pressed the reset key. > > > > > > I had thought it was limited to this circumstance, but I just managed to > > whack > > > out my machine after some hours of running when I tried to Exit VNC. > > > > > > No mention of this in the mailing list that I can find so I thought I'd > > log > > > it. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Jeff Veit > > > > > > http://www.tanasity.com/ - Tanasity develops software and net > applications > > > http://www.tangledtime.com/ - Discussion about the net, software and > > business > > > - come and contribute. Technophiles, it's PHP. Feel free to discuss the > > merits > > > of server side development languages and environments. > > > > > > Tanasity > > > Tel: +44 (0)1223 721513 > > > Email: jeff.veit@tanasity.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From kizetoni@hotmail.com Wed Sep 5 13:05:25 2001 From: kizetoni@hotmail.com (Zoran Pantic) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 12:05:25 +0000 Subject: Bug report - Win2k machine reboots References: <004d01c1359b$fe2b7b30$d190fd3e@bigboy2kpro> <003001c135e9$8734a170$0401a8c0@beasley.bpa.nu> <3B95FBC7.D7A1BA40@cardinalengineering.com> Message-ID: Hello Yan! I seem to have the similar problem, and I also turned power savings off. No help. But now when you mentioned those multimedia and sound stuff, I can remember that once I got a blue screen complaining about some sound driver (which is btw properly installed and is newest version). What do you mean by turning multimedia and soun off? You mean leaving the machine totally without sound, uninstalling something, or what? Thanx in advance, Zoran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yan Seiner" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 12:17 PM Subject: Re: Bug report - Win2k machine reboots > I fought a similar problem on a linux-based toshiba laptop. I finally > solved the problem by turning off as much of the power saving stuff as > possible. I would disable all power management, sound, multimedia, > etc. and see if the problem persists. Then enable one at a time. > > I've found apm to be the source of more evil reboots and freezes than > almost anything else. > > --Yan > > Zoran Pantic wrote: > > > > I have the same problem with my win2000pro sp2 machine, and that problem was > > there before I had sp2, and even before I had VNC. On our little LAN there are > > other computers who have VNC running the whole time and no problems, ever! > > > > I can see in a event viewer that "machine was restarted after a bugcheck", but > > to me it looks exactly like I pressed hardware reset key. > > > > I have fought against this problem (that occurs occasionaly - 2 or 3 times in > > one day, and then a pause for 10 days or even a month) for so many months now, > > that I learned to live with this problem (and developed almost unconcous > > reaction on my left hand, called "CTRL + S sequence" :o) > > > > If anyone ever comes to solve this problem, please post it somewhere. Now I > > even started to think about possible relation between computers hardware and > > some program(s) (I have IBM ThinkPad 600X laptop) - that's how desperate one > > can get not being able to solve a problem that occurs occasionally, not > > obviously related to a visible cause. :o) > > > > Regards, > > > > Zoran > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From kizetoni@hotmail.com Wed Sep 5 13:09:11 2001 From: kizetoni@hotmail.com (Zoran Pantic) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 12:09:11 +0000 Subject: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit References: <005001c135f4$c6653b60$1062a981@eng.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hello James, what do you mean by "bug" - maybe a damaged win nt/2k that should be installed from the scratch? I have a machine that is making those sudden resets, but still I am in doubt are they caused by hw error, or win error. Windows reports an error in event viewer after those restars, but in general my win2000 is working pretty well and besides that there are no problems. It could be a sw error (since it's recorded in event viewer) but it could also be a hw error (since after that sudden restart machine shows a black screen with a blinking cursor, just like it is in DOS, but without a prompt c:\). How do you mean "broken installation" - that refers to win2k or vnc? Thanx in advance, Zoran ----- Original Message ----- From: "James ''Wez'' Weatherall" To: Cc: "VNC-LIST" Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 12:23 PM Subject: Re: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit > Jeff, > > Have you tried running WinVNC as any other user (especially > non-administrative ones) and doing the same thing? > It sounds as though your machine may have a virus or hardware problem. > No application should be able to cause an instant reset of an NT/2K box > unless NT/2K has a bug that allows it, or the installation is in some way > broken. > > Cheers, > > --- > James "Wez" Weatherall > "The path to enlightenment is /usr/bin/enlightenment" > Laboratory for Communications Engineering, Cambridge - Tel : 766513 > AT&T Labs Cambridge, UK - Tel : 343000 > > > > --- > Hi there, > > Running a 700 Mhz Athlon with a 3dfx Voodoo 3 display adapter. Lots of disk > space. 128MB memory. Win2k Pro, service pack 2. No known issues with the > hardware configuration. > > If I start my machine, start VNC in app mode, wait till the icon appears on > my > task bar, and then right mouse click on the icon, and Exit, about 2 out of 3 > times I get an immediate reboot of my machine. No shutdown - it's as if I > pressed the reset key. > > I had thought it was limited to this circumstance, but I just managed to > whack > out my machine after some hours of running when I tried to Exit VNC. > > No mention of this in the mailing list that I can find so I thought I'd log > it. > > Regards, > > Jeff Veit > > http://www.tanasity.com/ - Tanasity develops software and net applications > http://www.tangledtime.com/ - Discussion about the net, software and > business > - - come and contribute. Technophiles, it's PHP. Feel free to discuss the > merits > of server side development languages and environments. > > Tanasity > Tel: +44 (0)1223 721513 > Email: jeff.veit@tanasity.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From yan@cardinalengineering.com Wed Sep 5 13:25:25 2001 From: yan@cardinalengineering.com (Yan Seiner) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 12:25:25 +0000 Subject: Bug report - Win2k machine reboots References: <004d01c1359b$fe2b7b30$d190fd3e@bigboy2kpro> <003001c135e9$8734a170$0401a8c0@beasley.bpa.nu> <3B95FBC7.D7A1BA40@cardinalengineering.com> Message-ID: <3B960AF5.409B3F29@cardinalengineering.com> OT and getting more so - Keep in mind that most of my experience is with linux, and none with W2K. In linux, I can simply unload those portions of the OS I don't want to use (like sound, dvd, etc.). In windows, I would assume you need to uninstall drivers and disable the automatic driver installation on boot - a more involved and much more permanent process. Also, in windows, apps muck about with replacing DLLs which can introduce instabilities. (Not trying to start a holy war; linux is fast heading down that route as well....) So check to see if the problems started after a botched install of an app. --Yan Zoran Pantic wrote: > > Hello Yan! > > I seem to have the similar problem, and I also turned power savings off. No > help. But now when you mentioned those multimedia and sound stuff, I can > remember that once I got a blue screen complaining about some sound driver > (which is btw properly installed and is newest version). What do you mean by > turning multimedia and soun off? You mean leaving the machine totally without > sound, uninstalling something, or what? > > Thanx in advance, > > Zoran --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From nickp@ericwright.co.uk Wed Sep 5 13:41:14 2001 From: nickp@ericwright.co.uk (Nick Palmer) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 12:41:14 +0000 Subject: Bug report - Win2k machine reboots Message-ID: You could always use device manager to disable the devices that you don't want - they're still there, but the drivers don't get loaded. Nick Palmer IT Manager > -----Original Message----- > From: Yan Seiner [mailto:yan@cardinalengineering.com] > Sent: 05 September 2001 12:22 > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: Bug report - Win2k machine reboots > > > OT and getting more so - > > Keep in mind that most of my experience is with linux, and none with > W2K. > > In linux, I can simply unload those portions of the OS I don't want to > use (like sound, dvd, etc.). In windows, I would assume you need to > uninstall drivers and disable the automatic driver > installation on boot > - a more involved and much more permanent process. > > Also, in windows, apps muck about with replacing DLLs which can > introduce instabilities. (Not trying to start a holy war; > linux is fast > heading down that route as well....) So check to see if the problems > started after a botched install of an app. > > --Yan > > Zoran Pantic wrote: > > > > Hello Yan! > > > > I seem to have the similar problem, and I also turned power > savings off. No > > help. But now when you mentioned those multimedia and sound > stuff, I can > > remember that once I got a blue screen complaining about > some sound driver > > (which is btw properly installed and is newest version). > What do you mean by > > turning multimedia and soun off? You mean leaving the > machine totally without > > sound, uninstalling something, or what? > > > > Thanx in advance, > > > > Zoran > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the individual to whom it is addressed. It may contain privileged and confidential information. If you have received this message in error or there are any problems, please notify the sender immediately and delete the message from your computer. The unauthorised use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is forbidden. The Eric Wright Group will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damage as a result of any malicious program being passed on, or arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From rudi.de.vos@simac.be Wed Sep 5 13:48:58 2001 From: rudi.de.vos@simac.be (Rudi De Vos) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 12:48:58 +0000 Subject: hook video driver Message-ID: The hook driver capture the rectangles and points passed to the driver drvbitblt and drvcopybits functions. The destination rectangles are screen coordinates, source rectangles are window coordinates. Vnc needs only to know the place that changed (for bitblt is this ok) But when you want to use "copyrect" you also need the source info, you have to know the source rectangle before you can copy him to the destination. I'm still try to find a way to translate the window coordinates to screen coordinates. The hook driver pass a RECT for bitblt and a RECT and POINT for copybits. But the POINT is the place on the window that moves. ex: notepad size 100x100 place: left = 150 right =250 top = 300 bottom =400 The driver pass me something like 160,240,310,380 point 0,10 rectangle moved to 160,240,310,380 from 150,310 But the driver don't tell me that the app is notepad and so I don't know the starting place (150=0,300=10) ----------------------------------------- There exist a document from microsoft "Tracking window changes" but this document is not clear for me. http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/graphics/dpyddi_4zon.asp Rudi -----Original Message----- From: James ''Wez'' Weatherall [mailto:jnw22@cam.ac.uk] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 12:17 PM To: Rudi De Vos Cc: VNC-LIST Subject: Re: hook video driver Rudi, I noticed your mail to the VNC list regarding a hooking video driver. >From your mail, it sounds as though you have this on Windows 2000/NT. Is that correct? You mentioned some confusion in tracking window changes. Can you give more detail as to why this confusion exists, and I'll make suggestions if I can. Cheers, --- James "Wez" Weatherall "The path to enlightenment is /usr/bin/enlightenment" Laboratory for Communications Engineering, Cambridge - Tel : 766513 AT&T Labs Cambridge, UK - Tel : 343000 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From adyas@twowaytv.com Wed Sep 5 14:04:20 2001 From: adyas@twowaytv.com (Alex Dyas) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 13:04:20 +0000 Subject: Xvnc view only Message-ID: <20010905125335.O77653-100000@r2d2.twowaytv.co.uk> hi, I've looked in the docs, and the mailing list archive, and I'm beginning to suspect that this is not possible, but I'd like someone to confirm it. I would like to run Xvnc as read-only, ie allow people to connect but not to be able to alter anything. I know the client can be run in read-only mode, but I can't rely on the users to do this. Thanks, Alex.. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ehud@unix.simonwiesel.co.il Wed Sep 5 14:36:36 2001 From: ehud@unix.simonwiesel.co.il (Ehud Karni) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 13:36:36 +0000 Subject: Xvnc view only In-Reply-To: <20010905125335.O77653-100000@r2d2.twowaytv.co.uk> (message from Alex Dyas on Wed, 5 Sep 2001 12:58:01 +0100 (BST)) References: <20010905125335.O77653-100000@r2d2.twowaytv.co.uk> Message-ID: <200109051231.PAA14837@linux.> On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 12:58:01 +0100 (BST), Alex Dyas wrote: > > I've looked in the docs, and the mailing list archive, and I'm beginning to > suspect that this is not possible, but I'd like someone to confirm it. I would > like to run Xvnc as read-only, ie allow people to connect but not to be able to > alter anything. I know the client can be run in read-only mode, but I can't > rely on the users to do this. > You did not look hard enough. I made just the change you're asking for. I added -viewonly switch to Xvnc (tested on Linux). You can find my original e-mail at: http://www.tridiavnc.com/list-mailist/2000-07/0575.html If you have problems with it you can email me directly. Ehud. -- Ehud Karni Mivtach - Simon Insurance /"\ Tel: +972-3-7966-561 Fax: +972-3-7966-667 \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign (USA) Fax and voice mail: 1-815-5509341 X Against HTML Mail Better Safe Than Sorry / \ mailto:ehud@unix.simonwiesel.co.il http://www.simonwiesel.co.il --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From David.Edward.Shapiro@btitele.com Wed Sep 5 15:04:24 2001 From: David.Edward.Shapiro@btitele.com (David Edward Shapiro) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 14:04:24 +0000 Subject: grey screen with cursor only on solaris/sparc Message-ID: <549AB966B45DD311A58A0000E86CEA8D0CAED717@postoffice.btitele .com> Hello, I saw a thing in the faq that said something about the xstartup program and needing maybe to use some other thing other than twm. If I run something like reflections at my workstatoin and run the xstartup, howerver, I do get a unix command prompt fine, so it is not the xstartup script. I changed the xstartup script so that it just had xclock in it, but I still got the same grey screen/cursor. It is as if it is not running the xstartup script I think. I started the server with vncserver command and I am using the latest vnc to date. The operating system is solaris 2.8 on a sparc platform. What can I change to get this working? David --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Eric@InvisibleRobot.com Wed Sep 5 15:04:26 2001 From: Eric@InvisibleRobot.com (Eric Carlson) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 14:04:26 +0000 Subject: TightVNC crash on 6 of 16 NT servers References: Message-ID: <3B96182F.29CD323C@InvisibleRobot.com> The 5 servers with the most TightVNC crashes are running ATI Video cards, but with different drivers. I also checked 4 that are working okay, and 2 are running ATI, but at only 256 colors, and 2 are not running ATI. Here are the details: - #1 - 800x600x16-bit, 75.hz - Chip: "ATI 3D Rage IIC PCI (A21)" - Driver: 4.00.1381.3254, 4.0.0 - Dual P-III/550.Mhz CPUs, 1.Gig RAM - Dr.Watson: c0000005 (access violation) - #2 - 800x600x16-bit, 72.hz - Chip: "ATI Rage128 VR (AGP)" - Driver: 4.3.68, 4.0.0 - Dual P-III/600.Mhz CPUs, 512.Meg RAM - Dr.Watson: c0000005 (access violation) - #3 - 800x600x16-bit, 72.hz - Chip: "ATI Rage128 VR (AGP)" - Driver: 4.3.68, 4.0.0 - Dual P-III/600.Mhz CPUs, 512.Meg RAM - Dr.Watson: c0000005 (access violation)/DeviceIoControl(77f02b7e) - #4 - 800x600, was high-color, now 16-bit, 72.hz - Chip: "ATI 3D Rage IIC PCI (GT-B3U2)" - Driver: 5.2.040, 4.0.0 - Dual P-III/500.Mhz CPUs, 512.Meg RAM - Dr.Watson: c0000005 (access violation)/(0042a843) - #5 - 800x600, was high-color, now 16-bit, 72.hz - Chip: "ATI 3D Rage IIC PCI (GT-B3U2)" - Driver: 5.2.040, 4.0.0 - Dual P-III/500.Mhz CPUs, 512.Meg RAM - #6, working with TightVNC, ATI at 800x600x256/60.hz - #7, working with TightVNC, S3 at 800x800x16-bit/72.hz - #8, working with TightVNC, ATI at 800x600x256/60.hz - #9, working with TightVNC, Matrox at 800x800x16-bit/75.hz - Eric, http://www.InvisibleRobot.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From beasley@bigpond.net.au Wed Sep 5 15:05:39 2001 From: beasley@bigpond.net.au (Kevin-John Beasley) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 14:05:39 +0000 Subject: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit References: <005001c135f4$c6653b60$1062a981@eng.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000c01c1360a$a81beda0$0401a8c0@beasley.bpa.nu> James you only need look at Microsoft's APM code for about 12 seconds to understand how many problems it causes. And that is just the start. If you run a nice clean server with only Microsoft Server Apps on it it "should" work fine. Considering I can rewrite the entire memory contents of Win 2K from a C program it is hardly surprising that 2K or NT crashes when any non-microsoft guru get's his hands onto it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James ''Wez'' Weatherall" To: Cc: "VNC-LIST" Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 8:23 PM Subject: Re: Bug report v3.3.3 r9 - Win2k machine reboots on exit > Jeff, > > Have you tried running WinVNC as any other user (especially > non-administrative ones) and doing the same thing? > It sounds as though your machine may have a virus or hardware problem. > No application should be able to cause an instant reset of an NT/2K box > unless NT/2K has a bug that allows it, or the installation is in some way > broken. > > Cheers, > > --- > James "Wez" Weatherall > "The path to enlightenment is /usr/bin/enlightenment" > Laboratory for Communications Engineering, Cambridge - Tel : 766513 > AT&T Labs Cambridge, UK - Tel : 343000 > > > > --- > Hi there, > > Running a 700 Mhz Athlon with a 3dfx Voodoo 3 display adapter. Lots of disk > space. 128MB memory. Win2k Pro, service pack 2. No known issues with the > hardware configuration. > > If I start my machine, start VNC in app mode, wait till the icon appears on > my > task bar, and then right mouse click on the icon, and Exit, about 2 out of 3 > times I get an immediate reboot of my machine. No shutdown - it's as if I > pressed the reset key. > > I had thought it was limited to this circumstance, but I just managed to > whack > out my machine after some hours of running when I tried to Exit VNC. > > No mention of this in the mailing list that I can find so I thought I'd log > it. > > Regards, > > Jeff Veit > > http://www.tanasity.com/ - Tanasity develops software and net applications > http://www.tangledtime.com/ - Discussion about the net, software and > business > - - come and contribute. Technophiles, it's PHP. Feel free to discuss the > merits > of server side development languages and environments. > > Tanasity > Tel: +44 (0)1223 721513 > Email: jeff.veit@tanasity.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From beasley@bigpond.net.au Wed Sep 5 15:12:26 2001 From: beasley@bigpond.net.au (Kevin-John Beasley) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 14:12:26 +0000 Subject: Bug report - Win2k machine reboots References: <004d01c1359b$fe2b7b30$d190fd3e@bigboy2kpro> <003001c135e9$8734a170$0401a8c0@beasley.bpa.nu> <3B95FBC7.D7A1BA40@cardinalengineering.com> <3B960AF5.409B3F29@cardinalengineering.com> Message-ID: <001c01c1360b$984678e0$0401a8c0@beasley.bpa.nu> At least in linux I get a error when I try to rewrite the entire contents of memory insted of this stupid windows idea of "it's ok, it's a nice program taking control of some stuff, Ok it's done now, What the??? NOOOOOOO!!!!! Crash Bang Boom" idea. Maybe microsoft should work on different colours for it's Blue Screens of Death. They don't seam to be fixing them ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yan Seiner" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:22 PM Subject: Re: Bug report - Win2k machine reboots > OT and getting more so - > > Keep in mind that most of my experience is with linux, and none with > W2K. > > In linux, I can simply unload those portions of the OS I don't want to > use (like sound, dvd, etc.). In windows, I would assume you need to > uninstall drivers and disable the automatic driver installation on boot > - a more involved and much more permanent process. > > Also, in windows, apps muck about with replacing DLLs which can > introduce instabilities. (Not trying to start a holy war; linux is fast > heading down that route as well....) So check to see if the problems > started after a botched install of an app. > > --Yan > > Zoran Pantic wrote: > > > > Hello Yan! > > > > I seem to have the similar problem, and I also turned power savings off. No > > help. But now when you mentioned those multimedia and sound stuff, I can > > remember that once I got a blue screen complaining about some sound driver > > (which is btw properly installed and is newest version). What do you mean by > > turning multimedia and soun off? You mean leaving the machine totally without > > sound, uninstalling something, or what? > > > > Thanx in advance, > > > > Zoran > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jnw22@cam.ac.uk Wed Sep 5 16:28:35 2001 From: jnw22@cam.ac.uk (James ''Wez'' Weatherall) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 15:28:35 +0000 Subject: hook video driver References: Message-ID: <001101c13616$48cdecc0$1062a981@eng.cam.ac.uk> --- But when you want to use "copyrect" you also need the source info, you have to know the source rectangle before you can copy him to the destination. I'm still try to find a way to translate the window coordinates to screen coordinates. The hook driver pass a RECT for bitblt and a RECT and POINT for copybits. But the POINT is the place on the window that moves. ex: notepad size 100x100 place: left = 150 right =250 top = 300 bottom =400 The driver pass me something like 160,240,310,380 point 0,10 rectangle moved to 160,240,310,380 from 150,310 But the driver don't tell me that the app is notepad and so I don't know the starting place (150=0,300=10) --- When you say "the driver", do you mean a driver you have written, or someone else's driver? I'm surprised that the driver returns window coordinates - I thought that graphics drivers received cordinates relative to display buffers. Bear in mind that GDI will access bitmaps in the graphics card other than just the display bitmap, so the hook driver probably needs to check which bitmap updates are coming from and only use copyrect when the source is the display bitmap. Cheers, --- James "Wez" Weatherall "The path to enlightenment is /usr/bin/enlightenment" Laboratory for Communications Engineering, Cambridge - Tel : 766513 AT&T Labs Cambridge, UK - Tel : 343000 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From joemacmail@yahoo.com Wed Sep 5 16:40:29 2001 From: joemacmail@yahoo.com (Joe Mac) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 15:40:29 +0000 Subject: Using VNC For Two Systems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010905143454.79037.qmail@web9606.mail.yahoo.com> Well, looking around, I found x2vnc: http://www.hubbe.net/~hubbe/x2vnc.html which does exactly what I want, but doesn't run on Win2k (it's X-Windows based). Anything like this for Windows? --- Peter Krala wrote: > If I understand what you are trying to do correctly, > probably the > easiest way to do this would be take advantage of > Win2K support for > multiple monitors: > [clip] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joe Mac > Date: Tuesday, September 4, 2001 10:55 am > Subject: Using VNC For Two Systems > > > I'd like to use VNC for two computers (Win2k) > sitting > > side-by-side. I don't want to see the screen of > the > > second computer on the first, I just want the > mouse > > and keyboard to go to the second computer when I > move > > the pointer off the right hand side of the first > > machine. Then when I move it off the left side of > the > > second machine, control goes back to the first. > > > > Is there a way to do this? > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > messaging with Yahoo! > > Messengerhttp://im.yahoo.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From DavidB@mail.interclean.com Wed Sep 5 16:40:37 2001 From: DavidB@mail.interclean.com (David Brodbeck) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 15:40:37 +0000 Subject: Ctrl Alt Del Message-ID: This is a frequently asked question. Yes, all the viewer programs allow you to send a Ctrl-Alt-Del to the remote machine. How you do it depends on the platform the viewer is running on. Under Linux, you can just press Ctrl-Alt-Del, but you may have to configure your local window manager to ignore that key combination. Under all Windows versions, you can select 'Send Ctrl-Alt-Del' from the window icon. Under Windows NT, Shift-Ctrl-Alt-Del also works. Hope this helps. -----Original Message----- From: Linda Worthington [mailto:lindac65@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 5:16 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Ctrl Alt Del I am running a W2K server with VNC 3.3.3. Is there any way that a system can be accessed with VNC as a service, running but the system is locked or has been rebooted? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From DavidB@mail.interclean.com Wed Sep 5 16:41:05 2001 From: DavidB@mail.interclean.com (David Brodbeck) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 15:41:05 +0000 Subject: Interactively Disable Local Keyboard and Mouse Message-ID: Did you read his post? He noted, paranthetically, that you can set it up so that if no one answers, it times out after a set number of seconds and lets you in. -----Original Message----- From: Fisher, Dave [mailto:david.m.fisher@eds.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 4:41 PM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: Interactively Disable Local Keyboard and Mouse The registry settings you talk about will not work since the query option will only give me access to the PC if someone is at the PC and using it. I do not want to access it then, I want to access it if no one is there. If no one is there, then no one can accept my request and I will not be able to access the PC. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Palocz [mailto:spalocz@tgtsolutions.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 12:21 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Interactively Disable Local Keyboard and Mouse Since the makers of VNC thought of this, There is an option you can set in the registry for a message to be displayed stating something about someone is taking control of this system do you want to let them... (what is even better is you can set it to disconnect or accept if it times out (no one is there)). --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From vnc@mitchb.org Wed Sep 5 16:43:18 2001 From: vnc@mitchb.org (Mitch) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 15:43:18 +0000 Subject: Explanation of terms please. Message-ID: <3b963667.231592@mid.mitchb.org> Hi all All of the nodes on my home LAN run under Win98SE. I have WinNVC running on my server node and can successfully log into it from the other nodes with vncviewer. However ... ... could somebody please explain to me the significance/purpose of 'add client' and 'running the viewer in listen mode'? I'm fast coming to the conclusion that those terms are only relevant to systems running WinNT. Thanks -- Mitch --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From LeeDouglas@pellis.com Wed Sep 5 17:07:18 2001 From: LeeDouglas@pellis.com (Lee Douglas) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 16:07:18 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available In-Reply-To: <000b01c1357b$c5b49400$0201a8c0@athlon1000> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010905110313.03ffd950@mail.pellis.com> Tony, It just keep getting better! Thanks! Lee At 02:57 PM 9/4/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Hi All, >A new version of VNC Commander is available for download. >I have incorporated some of your ideas into this release, such as: >Improved details view, now has sort arrows on the column headers, and it >remembers where you left it last. >Display name does not change when editing the server address. >One connection can be set to autoconnect when the program is started. >Large Icon view is now sorted. >And other little things. > >You can download it for free at: >http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com > > >Ciao, > >Tony Caduto >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list >to majordomo@uk.research.att.com >See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html >--------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tertling@web.de Wed Sep 5 17:07:52 2001 From: tertling@web.de (Andre Tertling) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 16:07:52 +0000 Subject: Bug report - Win2k machine reboots References: <004d01c1359b$fe2b7b30$d190fd3e@bigboy2kpro> <003001c135e9$8734a170$0401a8c0@beasley.bpa.nu> <3B95FBC7.D7A1BA40@cardinalengineering.com> <3B960AF5.409B3F29@cardinalengineering.com> <001c01c1360b$984678e0$0401a8c0@beasley.bpa.nu> Message-ID: <3B963DA5.66FDAA4A@web.de> Kevin-John Beasley wrote: > > Maybe microsoft should work on different colours for it's Blue Screens of > Death. They don't seam to be fixing them There is already a tool to configure the colors for your bluescreens :D Sorry, couldn't resist :D -- Regards, Andre Tertling (tertling@web.de) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From zmargareten@CJH.org Wed Sep 5 17:15:41 2001 From: zmargareten@CJH.org (Zalman Margareten) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 16:15:41 +0000 Subject: Undocumented port in use by VNCviewer in Listen Mode? Message-ID: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E5112695@CFJH> Very clearly explained, John. I would suggest running a "network monitor" through an entire VNC session and watching when/if it communicates with port 5400. Such a monitor was mentioned in this VNC-list sometime last week and I posted a message inquiring what monitor was used. I so far haven't received an answer. You mentioned different experiments. Did you try disabling port 5400 coming in to the viewer? Good Luck -Original Message----- From: John Roland Elliott [mailto:John_Roland_Elliott@Hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 6:14 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Undocumented port in use by VNCviewer in Listen Mode? Roy, Pete, Zoran, Zalman, and all --- Thanks for considering my poorly posed question and thanks for your theories. Let me try my question again, a little more precisely and completely stated this time. The FAQ (http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/faq.html#q52) states, and I have observed, that the VNC server listens on port 5900+n (where n is the "display number") and that when the VNC viewer initiates a session with the server, it does so through that port. The FAQ (http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/faq.html#q52) states, and I have observed, that the VNC server listens on port 5800+n (where n is the "display number") and, on that port, answers as a minimalist web server which delivers the java implementation of the VNC viewer. Once the (java) VNC viewer is delivered to the machine that is to act as viewer, the java VNC viewer communicates with the VNC server through port 5900+n, just like the non-java VNC viewer. Ports 5900+n and 5800+n are open on machines running a VNC server (WinVNC, e.g.) and the (java or non-java) VNC viewer connects only to 5900+n. 5800+n is used only to fetch the java viewer (vncviewer.class in vncviewer.jar) from the machine running the VNC server. It is my understanding that the viewer, once it is loaded, regardless of how it is loaded, communicates with the server through the server's port 5900+n. I don't think that 5800+n is used as a control channel, or anything other than fetching the java client. I conclude this by configuring a firewall that defends the machine running the VNC server. When I configure it to drop inbound traffic on port 5800 I can successfully establish a VNC session from the other side of the firewall using the non-java VNC viewer. Further, I conducted the following experiment: 1) on the firewall between my viewer and server, I enabled 5800 (for loading the java VNC viewer) and disabled 5900 going from viewer to server 2) from my favorite java-capable web browser, I went to http://myVNCserver:5800 and got the VNC authentication page asking for a VNC password 3) at that point, I reconfigured my firewall to disable 5800 (the viewer is already loaded in the virtual machine of the machine that is to be viewer) and enable 5900 (so that the viewer could do something constructive) going from viewer to server 4) back at my web browser, which was still displaying the VNC authentication page, I entered the VNC password and established a session (without access to 5800 on the server but with 5900 on the server accessible) This experiment convinced me that a) 5800 is necessary and sufficient to load the java VNC viewer (i.e., 5900 is not needed for *loading* and *starting* the java VNC viewer) and b) 5900 is necessary and sufficient for the (java) VNC viewer (i.e., 5800 is not needed for *running* the VNC viewer, even the java one). I stress that 5800+n and 5900+n are VNC server ports. Those ports are not open on the VNC viewer machine (unless it is also running VNC server.) The FAQ (http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/faq.html#q52) states, and I have observed, that the VNC viewer (not server) listens on port 5500. When, from a VNC server, you "Add New Client", the server initiates a session with the viewer through the viewer's port 5500. In this mode of operation, the viewer does not use the server's 5900+n, which would have been used if the viewer had initiated the connection; I suspect, but I haven't confirmed, that the server continues to talk to the viewer's port 5500 and the viewer talks to the port that the server opened in order to call the viewer. So, I think I understand 5500, 5800+n, and 5900+n, but I'm still mystified by 5400. What I know is: 1) it is created on the viewer machine when I "Run VNCviewer (Listen Mode)" 2) it is destroyed on the viewer machine when I "Close listening daemon" 3) it is unused (or at least not required) during the conventional operation (viewer initiates the connection) 4) it is unused (or at least not required) by the java VNC viewer What I would like to know is does it serve any function whatsoever. In exchange for this knowledge I am prepared to offer my eternal gratitude and undying devotion. I really don't want to have to try to read the source (what is it? ... Object Oriented COBOL? ... "ADD-1-TO-COBOL-GIVING-COBOL"?) Regards, JRE P.S. One last clue: If, on the machine that has "Run VNCviewer (Listen Mode)", I go to http://localhost:5400, briefly, in maybe 36-point text, I see "plication/vnd.ms-excel, applica" at the top of the screen. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zalman Margareten" To: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 12:39 PM Subject: RE: Undocumented port in use by VNCviewer in Listen Mode? > Are u trying to imply that it will establish the connection with port 5400 > and then hand it over to 5500? I can understand this with the "regular" > connection that is initiated from the viewer where it will send a sync to > 5800 and then establish a connection with 5900. But how do u explain it with > the "listener" method where it starts with 5500 according to my ( netstat -n > readings )? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roy Long [mailto:roy@ncitech.com] > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 9:46 AM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: Undocumented port in use by VNCviewer in Listen Mode? > > > >The documentation indicates that VNCviewer in Listen Mode uses port 5500. > It > >appears that when I start VNCviewer in Listen Mode, my machine also listens > >on port 5400, at least my Windows 2000 machine does. After stopping Listen > >Mode, both 5500 and 5400 are closed. I have set my firewall to block 5400 > >and allow 5500 and it seems to continue to work. > > > >As port 5400 is associated with the Blade Runner Trojan, I was a little > >alarmed to discover it open on one of my machines. > > > >Can anyone provide any illumination on the subject of VNC's use of port > >5400? > > I believe 5400 is the java web browser port for the viewer, just like > 5800 works for the java web browser port on the "normal" VNC server. > -- > Roy Long - KB3CZD > Computer Technician > NCI Technologies > 126 N. 2nd Street > Philipsburg PA 16866 > > roy@ncitech.com > > > > > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > Version: 3.12 > GO@ d-@ s: a- C++ C--- U+++ P+ L++>$ E--- W+ N+ w > M++$ PS PE+ PGP+ t+ 5 X R- tv b+ DI++ D G h--- r+++ y--(+++) > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From mlafleur@ux.cegep-heritage.qc.ca Wed Sep 5 17:15:49 2001 From: mlafleur@ux.cegep-heritage.qc.ca (Maurice Lafleur) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 16:15:49 +0000 Subject: Log file size Message-ID: <3B9637FB.D492501B@ux.cegep-heritage.qc.ca> Hello everyone, I posted this yesterday, but I don't think it turned up to the list (I didn't receive it for majordomo..). So here goes: ---> I am new to this list but not to Vnc. We have been using this marvellous piece of software for the past 2.5 years here at the college and are really happy with it. Only one thing causes us headaches: the size of the log file that the Linux implementation creates. We limit our students to 20 Megs of home drive space and recently after a program went astray, a student had her entire 20M used up by the VNC session log file she was running, preventing her from saving any new work. After that event, I checked other students log files to find that they were in some cases pretty big. So here are the questions: 1- Can the size of the log file be limited somehow? 2- What happens if a log file is removed from the .vnc directory while a session is running? Thanks, -- MGL -- Maurice G. Lafleur +------------------------------------------------+ Teacher + Voice: +1(819).778.2270 X1412 + Heritage College + Fax: +1(819).776.7364 + 325 Cite des Jeunes + mailto: mlafleur@ux.cegep-heritage.qc.ca + Hull. Qc. + Web: http://ux.cegep-heritage.qc.ca/~ommadawn + Canada +------------------------------------------------+ J8Y 6T3 /"\ \ / X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN / \ AGAINST HTML MAIL --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Seanster@Seanster.com Wed Sep 5 18:13:00 2001 From: Seanster@Seanster.com (Seanster) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 17:13:00 +0000 Subject: Undocumented port in use by VNCviewer in Listen Mode? References: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E5112695@CFJH> Message-ID: <3B964E25.B5F92545@Seanster.com> Ok lets wrap this up. Port 5400 is for the 'Flasher'. Here is what it says in the source code: // Flasher is used with the AT&T internal version of VNC, when the user may need to // choose which monitor in a room should be used to display his desktop. A server can // connect to a listening viewer and flash the boundary of the screen, typically displaying // the userid of the person doing the flashing at the same time. // Not used in the external version. To be more specific, they say 'not used' but it is available for use. Maybe they meant 'not used by the server'. Or maybe someone just forgot to stop it from running. Just telnet to your box on port 5400 and your screen will flash as indicated. I wish someone around here used it cuz it would be a wicked prank to hammer them with flashes. -Sean --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From boerio@ichips.intel.com Wed Sep 5 18:46:02 2001 From: boerio@ichips.intel.com (Jeff Boerio) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 17:46:02 +0000 Subject: Log file size In-Reply-To: <3B9637FB.D492501B@ux.cegep-heritage.qc.ca> from "Maurice Lafleur" at Sep 05, 2001 10:34:35 AM Message-ID: <200109051640.JAA13057@plxw0032.pdx.intel.com> As far as I know, nothing bad will happen. But it depends on how a connect Xvnc session behaves with its logfiles. That is, does it only open the file when it needs to append it? Or, does it keep the file open while the VNC session is connected. Certainly, "cat /dev/null > ~username/.vnc/hostname:display.log" should cause no harm, since the inode won't be changing. - Jeff > >Hello everyone, > >I posted this yesterday, but I don't think it turned up to the list (I >didn't receive it for majordomo..). So here goes: > >---> >I am new to this list but not to Vnc. We have been using this marvellous >piece of software for the past 2.5 years here at the college and are >really happy with it. Only one thing causes us headaches: the size of >the log file that the Linux implementation creates. We limit our >students to 20 Megs of home drive space and recently after a program >went astray, a student had her entire 20M used up by the VNC session >log file she was running, preventing her from saving any new work. >After that event, I checked other students log files to find that they >were in some cases pretty big. > >So here are the questions: > >1- Can the size of the log file be limited somehow? > >2- What happens if a log file is removed from the .vnc directory while a >session is running? > >Thanks, > > -- Jeff Boerio, DPG-OR Engineering Computing, boerio@ichips.intel.com Mgr, UNIX Software Applications & Support --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jowr@sdf.lonestar.org Wed Sep 5 19:26:12 2001 From: jowr@sdf.lonestar.org (Eric Gisse) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 18:26:12 +0000 Subject: hidden "Start" console - CTRL + ESC sequence In-Reply-To: References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010904171316.02309910@mail.freeshell.org> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010905091746.00ae8f28@mail.freeshell.org> yea. guess i was wrong....ive been told that adding shift to any sequence works, and ive only needed C/A/D so far :-P At 11:18 AM 9/5/2001 +0200, you wrote: >Eric, thanx for the help. > >But, I tried those things you suggested, and the only one that works is the >first one; both shift+alt+tab and shift+ctrl+escape are executing on my >win2000pro viewer machine, and not on the vnc server machine. It is strange >that the first one works, and two others don't....? > >Regards, > Zoran > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Eric Gisse" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 3:14 AM >Subject: Re: hidden "Start" console - CTRL + ESC sequence > > > > what you do is add shift to any key sequence that windows captures > > > > shift control alt del > > shift alt tab > > shift control escape > > > > control C/V/P doesnt need shift because windows doesnt capture it > > > > hope this helps >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list >to majordomo@uk.research.att.com >See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html >--------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tmiani@enterasys.com Wed Sep 5 19:42:09 2001 From: tmiani@enterasys.com (Miani, Thomas) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 18:42:09 +0000 Subject: Password Question Message-ID: Hello all : Our company is using VNC on an NT work station enabling our customers to control and view that station. Due to security reasons our customers want to change the password of the actual VNC connection, most times they are connected to the NT station through VNC. Here is what has happened : Preliminary testing : On actual NT Station changing the password using the Icon tool seems to work Changing the password when Vic's causes the password to go back to the default when the machine is rebooted. When I rebooted the new password was not maintained, nor was the previous one (changed on the actual NT Station) that I had used before. The default password was back in place. Please help : Is the password saved in the registry ? Does the user that is Vic's in have permissions to write to the new password to the registry on the server machine ? Would this cause the password to revert to the default ? TJ Miani Sr. Technical Account Manager Enterasys Networks (w) 978-684-1434 (c) 978-835-2842 Helpdesk - 800-872-8440 tmiani@enterasys.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From john.clegg@nailsea.net Wed Sep 5 20:15:46 2001 From: john.clegg@nailsea.net (John Clegg) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 19:15:46 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available Message-ID: <076E84E04C64D311B9F40080C8F3095920FD30@MAPLE> Excellent, thank you John > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Caduto [mailto:tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 8:57 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available > > > Hi All, > A new version of VNC Commander is available for download. > I have incorporated some of your ideas into this release, such as: > Improved details view, now has sort arrows on the column > headers, and it > remembers where you left it last. > Display name does not change when editing the server address. > One connection can be set to autoconnect when the program is started. > Large Icon view is now sorted. > And other little things. > > You can download it for free at: > http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com > > > Ciao, > > Tony Caduto > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > ********************************************** Any views expressed in this message are the sender's own, and do not represent the views of Nailsea Family Practice or Woodspring Healthcare Limited except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of one or both of those organisations. 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Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Peter.Wojtowicz@holy-cross.com Wed Sep 5 20:27:17 2001 From: Peter.Wojtowicz@holy-cross.com (Wojtowicz, Peter) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 19:27:17 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available Message-ID: Spectacular! I've already entered 15 of my servers into it. Two things I've noticed.. When viewing as "Details", the last column "Show connection Timer" should either be named "Hide connection Timer", or the value for each entry should be flipped from false to true.. It also doesn't seem to have support for my favoirite switch, "/viewonly". Still, an excellent utility. Thank you! I wish I'd heard of it sooner! -pete > Hi All, > A new version of VNC Commander is available for download. > I have incorporated some of your ideas into this release, > such as: > Improved details view, now has sort arrows on the column > headers, and it > remembers where you left it last. > Display name does not change when editing the server address. > One connection can be set to autoconnect when the program > is started. > Large Icon view is now sorted. > And other little things. > > You can download it for free at: > http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jsarinana@ksninc.com Wed Sep 5 21:05:57 2001 From: jsarinana@ksninc.com (Joe Sarinana) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 20:05:57 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c1363c$b3a5cdd0$82ed5e3f@ksn1> Assume ! I'm about 2 hours new to this VNC s.w. and I'm already starting to feel warm and fuzzy inside. ? how can I hide the server icon on a computer and still be able to connect to it from my viewer computer ? -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Wojtowicz, Peter Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 11:26 AM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: Re: New Version of VNC Commander available Spectacular! I've already entered 15 of my servers into it. Two things I've noticed.. When viewing as "Details", the last column "Show connection Timer" should either be named "Hide connection Timer", or the value for each entry should be flipped from false to true.. It also doesn't seem to have support for my favoirite switch, "/viewonly". Still, an excellent utility. Thank you! I wish I'd heard of it sooner! -pete > Hi All, > A new version of VNC Commander is available for download. > I have incorporated some of your ideas into this release, > such as: > Improved details view, now has sort arrows on the column > headers, and it > remembers where you left it last. > Display name does not change when editing the server address. > One connection can be set to autoconnect when the program > is started. > Large Icon view is now sorted. > And other little things. > > You can download it for free at: > http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From murban@thinkinginvestments.com Wed Sep 5 21:29:30 2001 From: murban@thinkinginvestments.com (Michael Urban) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 20:29:30 +0000 Subject: multiple vncclients? Message-ID: I have a vnc server running on a win2000 box. Multiple users wish to connect to it. Presently whenever someone connects with vncclient, anyone else connected loses their connection. Is it possible to have multiple connections? Is it possible to prevent others from connecting if one already is connected? Michael. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From PCARSTE@CSKAUTO.COM Wed Sep 5 21:40:05 2001 From: PCARSTE@CSKAUTO.COM (Carstensen, Pete) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 20:40:05 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available Message-ID: Can I use the /shared switch on the new Commander version? *************************** Pete Carstensen, MCSE Senior LAN Engineer CSK Auto, Inc. 645 E. Missouri Ave. Phoenix, AZ 85012 (602) 631-7176 pcarste@cskauto.com Little surprises around every corner, but nothing dangerous. -- Willie Wonka -----Original Message----- From: Tony Caduto [mailto:tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 12:57 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available Hi All, A new version of VNC Commander is available for download. I have incorporated some of your ideas into this release, such as: Improved details view, now has sort arrows on the column headers, and it remembers where you left it last. Display name does not change when editing the server address. One connection can be set to autoconnect when the program is started. Large Icon view is now sorted. And other little things. You can download it for free at: http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com Ciao, Tony Caduto --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From PonsE@investorservices.net Wed Sep 5 21:59:09 2001 From: PonsE@investorservices.net (Pons, Eric) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 20:59:09 +0000 Subject: X windows server Message-ID: What I am trying to do is make it so that X-windows uses VNC server, but when you logon with a VNC Viewer you get an actual logon screen. So the user must have an account with that machine and the user merely logs into his account with VNC viewer. How would I setup Linux to do this? I have seen it done before... Thanks --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com Wed Sep 5 22:05:51 2001 From: Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com (Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 21:05:51 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available Message-ID: I have downloaded the new VNC Commander 1.0.0.46. I found that if you don't use the File/Exit command when exiting the prog, VNC_Commander.e will remain active on the sys tray. It can be killed through task manager though. Is there an option for Full Screen ?, I didn't see one.....but have only been using it a short while and could have missed it. Thanks, Mark mark_johnson@urscorp.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jsarinana@ksninc.com Wed Sep 5 22:14:42 2001 From: jsarinana@ksninc.com (Joe Sarinana) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 21:14:42 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000301c13647$0361bf00$82ed5e3f@ksn1> I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to it from a viewer ? _____ Joe Sarinana Network and CAD System Manager. KSN INC. www.ksninc.com 209-946-0268 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From david.m.fisher@eds.com Wed Sep 5 22:37:15 2001 From: david.m.fisher@eds.com (Fisher, Dave) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 21:37:15 +0000 Subject: Interactively Disable Local Keyboard and Mouse Message-ID: <8AA870658244D4119AF600508BDF0A3604BC6505@usahm014.exmi01.ex ch.eds.com> I am aware of the registry entries, I have included them below. Maybe you could explain to me how to set the registry settings to accept a connection upon time out. According to the doc below, the timeout entry "indicates the number of seconds for which the Accept Connection dialog will be displayed before REJECTING the incoming connection automatically" AuthHosts The AuthHosts setting is, unlike the other settings, a REG_SZ string. It is used to specify a set of IP address templates which incoming connections must match in order to be accepted. By default, the template is empty and connections from all hosts are accepted. The template is of the form: +[ip-address-template] ?[ip-address-template] -[ip-address-template] In the above, [ip-address-template] represents the leftmost bytes of the desired stringified IP-address. For example, +158.97 would match both 158.97.12.10 and 158.97.14.2. Multiple match terms may be specified, delimited by the ":" character. Terms appearing later in the template take precedence over earlier ones. e.g. -:+158.97: would filter out all incoming connections except those beginning with 158.97. Terms beginning with the "?" character are treated by default as indicating hosts from whom connections must be accepted at the server side via a dialog box. The QuerySetting option determines the precise behaviour of the three AuthHosts options. Local machine-specific setting. QuerySetting The QuerySetting allows individual users to tailor the degree of paranoia expressed by the per-machine AuthHosts setting. It is a DWORD value ranging from zero (maximum availability) to four (maximum security). The following table indicates how the value affects the AuthHosts behaviour: 0 - +:Accept, ?:Accept, -:Query 1 - +:Accept, ?:Accept, -:Reject 2 - +:Accept, ?:Query, -:Reject [Default] 3 - +:Query, ?:Query, -:Reject 4 - +:Query, ?:Reject, -:Reject By default, value 2 (Obey AuthHosts) will be assumed. Local & global per-user setting. QueryTimeout The QueryTimeout setting indicates the number of seconds for which the Accept Connection dialog (see AuthHosts and QuerySetting options) will be displayed before rejecting the incoming connection automatically. Local & global per-user setting. -----Original Message----- From: David Brodbeck [mailto:DavidB@mail.interclean.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:36 AM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Cc: 'david.m.fisher@eds.com' Subject: RE: Interactively Disable Local Keyboard and Mouse Did you read his post? He noted, paranthetically, that you can set it up so that if no one answers, it times out after a set number of seconds and lets you in. -----Original Message----- From: Fisher, Dave [mailto:david.m.fisher@eds.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 4:41 PM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: Interactively Disable Local Keyboard and Mouse The registry settings you talk about will not work since the query option will only give me access to the PC if someone is at the PC and using it. I do not want to access it then, I want to access it if no one is there. If no one is there, then no one can accept my request and I will not be able to access the PC. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Palocz [mailto:spalocz@tgtsolutions.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 12:21 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Interactively Disable Local Keyboard and Mouse Since the makers of VNC thought of this, There is an option you can set in the registry for a message to be displayed stating something about someone is taking control of this system do you want to let them... (what is even better is you can set it to disconnect or accept if it times out (no one is there)). --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Wed Sep 5 23:01:01 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 22:01:01 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available References: Message-ID: <000901c1364c$bbf22eb0$84061fac@tr3789> Yes, it was designed that way IE so you have to use the exit button or the file-exit in the main menu. I did it that way because if you are not using the viewer it takes up minimal resources and can be left running in the tray until you need it again Currently there is not a option for full screen. There should be no reason to kill it through the task manager, it takes longer to do that than just double click on the icon and click the exit button. Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- > I have downloaded the new VNC Commander 1.0.0.46. I found that if you > don't use the File/Exit command when exiting the prog, VNC_Commander.e > will remain active on the sys tray. It can be killed through task > manager though. > > Is there an option for Full Screen ? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jmaton@viztek.net Wed Sep 5 23:01:08 2001 From: jmaton@viztek.net (Jonathan Maton) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 22:01:08 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon References: <000301c13647$0361bf00$82ed5e3f@ksn1> Message-ID: <002901c1364c$92da02a0$6c886f0c@tupac> "Hiding the tray icon" This is sort of a "taboo" issue... mainly because there seems to be no legitimate reason to hide the server's icon. The only reason I can think of is to facilitate spying on someone, which I believe the good folks at AT&T Research are not interested in advertising, especially after the rather nasty article in Time magazine that proclaimed vnc to be nothing more than "spyware." Having said that... vnc is open source. You can download the source code and make whatever changes you want. But please don't be offended if no one on the list wishes to help you do it. We'd all hate to see the vnc project go closed source (or worse, be discontinued) due to any more bad press, and the "feature" you're after is the heart of it. ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Sarinana" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:11 PM Subject: Hiding icon > I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to it > from a viewer ? > > _____ > > Joe Sarinana > Network and CAD System Manager. > KSN INC. www.ksninc.com > 209-946-0268 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From David.Edward.Shapiro@btitele.com Wed Sep 5 23:01:17 2001 From: David.Edward.Shapiro@btitele.com (David Edward Shapiro) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 22:01:17 +0000 Subject: ssh and vnc and java Message-ID: <549AB966B45DD311A58A0000E86CEA8D0CAED71B@postoffice.btitele .com> I liked the http://server:5801 stuff. I want to do this using ssh though. I have securecrt. I set up my local workstation port 5801 to point to remote vnc server port 5801 (solaris 2.8/sparc running latest vnc) and then did http://localhost:5801. It got me the login, but after I log in it gives me the following error: java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused. Why did I get this and is there a way around this? Thanks....David --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Wed Sep 5 23:01:24 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 22:01:24 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available References: Message-ID: <001501c1364d$01acad40$84061fac@tr3789> There is a option to do that with the ActiveX control that it uses, I just did not add it. VNC Commander is a work in progress, so it will get better with further releases. Remember, I am doing this in my spare time, so it may not happen right away. Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carstensen, Pete" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 2:30 PM Subject: RE: New Version of VNC Commander available > Can I use the /shared switch on the new Commander version? > > > *************************** > Pete Carstensen, MCSE > Senior LAN Engineer > CSK Auto, Inc. > 645 E. Missouri Ave. > Phoenix, AZ 85012 > (602) 631-7176 > pcarste@cskauto.com > > Little surprises around every corner, but nothing dangerous. > -- Willie Wonka > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Caduto [mailto:tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 12:57 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available > > Hi All, > A new version of VNC Commander is available for download. > I have incorporated some of your ideas into this release, such as: > Improved details view, now has sort arrows on the column headers, and it > remembers where you left it last. > Display name does not change when editing the server address. > One connection can be set to autoconnect when the program is started. > Large Icon view is now sorted. > And other little things. > > You can download it for free at: > http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com > > > Ciao, > > Tony Caduto > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From lee@leadtec.com Wed Sep 5 23:13:38 2001 From: lee@leadtec.com (Lee Allen) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 22:13:38 +0000 Subject: X windows server References: Message-ID: <019401c13668$767eba80$0300a8c0@LEADTEC> I am running Xvnc on Linux in inetd mode, using xdm. This prompts the user for (Linux) user name and password. -Lee Allen ----- Original Message ----- From: Pons, Eric To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 12:50 PM Subject: X windows server > What I am trying to do is make it so that X-windows uses VNC server, but > when you logon with a VNC Viewer you get an actual logon screen. So the user > must have an account with that machine and the user merely logs into his > account with VNC viewer. How would I setup Linux to do this? I have seen it > done before... > Thanks > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Wed Sep 5 23:16:48 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 22:16:48 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon In-Reply-To: <002901c1364c$92da02a0$6c886f0c@tupac> Message-ID: CLAP,CLAP,CLAP on the spying thing and the good folks -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Jonathan Maton Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:52 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Hiding icon "Hiding the tray icon" This is sort of a "taboo" issue... mainly because there seems to be no legitimate reason to hide the server's icon. The only reason I can think of is to facilitate spying on someone, which I believe the good folks at AT&T Research are not interested in advertising, especially after the rather nasty article in Time magazine that proclaimed vnc to be nothing more than "spyware." Having said that... vnc is open source. You can download the source code and make whatever changes you want. But please don't be offended if no one on the list wishes to help you do it. We'd all hate to see the vnc project go closed source (or worse, be discontinued) due to any more bad press, and the "feature" you're after is the heart of it. ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Sarinana" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:11 PM Subject: Hiding icon > I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to it > from a viewer ? > > _____ > > Joe Sarinana > Network and CAD System Manager. > KSN INC. www.ksninc.com > 209-946-0268 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Wed Sep 5 23:36:42 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 22:36:42 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04D8D@QMAIL> Also, Tridia (http://www.tridiavnc.com) includes an icon-disabling registry key in their VNC distro. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Sarinana [mailto:jsarinana@ksninc.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:12 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Hiding icon I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to it from a viewer ? _____ Joe Sarinana Network and CAD System Manager. KSN INC. www.ksninc.com 209-946-0268 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jsarinana@ksninc.com Wed Sep 5 23:36:51 2001 From: jsarinana@ksninc.com (Joe Sarinana) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 22:36:51 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000501c13652$5f0229c0$82ed5e3f@ksn1> The only reason I want to hide this icon is because I have a computer WIN98 running on a peer to peer network that has JetAdmin installed on it. This computer is our print server for this peer network and from time to time some of the users need to log into this computer and screw with the print jobs. I want to hide it from these users so they don't feel obligated to screw with it just because it's there. Regards Joe S. any help out there ? -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 2:15 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Hiding icon CLAP,CLAP,CLAP on the spying thing and the good folks -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Jonathan Maton Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:52 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Hiding icon "Hiding the tray icon" This is sort of a "taboo" issue... mainly because there seems to be no legitimate reason to hide the server's icon. The only reason I can think of is to facilitate spying on someone, which I believe the good folks at AT&T Research are not interested in advertising, especially after the rather nasty article in Time magazine that proclaimed vnc to be nothing more than "spyware." Having said that... vnc is open source. You can download the source code and make whatever changes you want. But please don't be offended if no one on the list wishes to help you do it. We'd all hate to see the vnc project go closed source (or worse, be discontinued) due to any more bad press, and the "feature" you're after is the heart of it. ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Sarinana" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:11 PM Subject: Hiding icon > I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to it > from a viewer ? > > _____ > > Joe Sarinana > Network and CAD System Manager. > KSN INC. www.ksninc.com > 209-946-0268 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Wed Sep 5 23:42:03 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 22:42:03 +0000 Subject: VNC Access to pcs behind firewalls Message-ID: Anyone's got a clue (besides reading the doc and me being a wizard - however competent to set firewall policies) of how to remotely support people sitting behind a firewall (with NAT) translation txs Dietmar [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From sczjd@yahoo.com Wed Sep 5 23:58:39 2001 From: sczjd@yahoo.com (SI Reasoning) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 22:58:39 +0000 Subject: ssh and vnc and java In-Reply-To: <549AB966B45DD311A58A0000E86CEA8D0CAED71B@postoffice.btitel e .com> Message-ID: <20010905215538.94662.qmail@web9507.mail.yahoo.com> you might have to also ssh -L 5801:remoteserver:5801 -L 5901:remoteserver:5901 firewall --- David Edward Shapiro wrote: > I liked the http://server:5801 stuff. I want to do > this using ssh though. > I have securecrt. I set up my local workstation > port 5801 to point to > remote vnc server port 5801 (solaris 2.8/sparc > running latest vnc) and then > did http://localhost:5801. It got me the login, but > after I log in it gives > me the following error: > > java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused. > > Why did I get this and is there a way around this? > > Thanks....David > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: > unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== SI Reasoning sczjd@yahoo.com gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From spalmisano@usashs.com Wed Sep 5 23:58:47 2001 From: spalmisano@usashs.com (Salvatore Palmisano) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 22:58:47 +0000 Subject: VNC Access to pcs behind firewalls In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c13655$e82c4520$0e00a8c0@shsnet.local> I do this all the time, just map your VNC connect port to the IP of the machine you're looking for and viola. Granted, this means you need either access to the firewall device or you'll have to convince an admin to add the mapping for you. --Salvatore -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:43 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: VNC Access to pcs behind firewalls Anyone's got a clue (besides reading the doc and me being a wizard - however competent to set firewall policies) of how to remotely support people sitting behind a firewall (with NAT) translation txs Dietmar --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.277 / Virus Database: 146 - Release Date: 9/5/2001 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From stefane.bridy@bigfoot.com Thu Sep 6 00:02:08 2001 From: stefane.bridy@bigfoot.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?St=E9fane_Bridy?=) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 23:02:08 +0000 Subject: Send Ctrl+Esc to remote computer : really no one knows how ? Message-ID: <3B96BC79.29495.899103@localhost> Hello I asked yesterday how to send Ctrl+Esc to bring up the start menu on a remote machine, but none of the suggestions work ... Does anyone know ? Best thanx for your help Stifane from Stitzerland > Well, I tried out your hints ... > > "shift ctrl+alt+del" works, but it isn't vital as "send > ctrl+alt+del" exists in menu > > "shift ctrl esc" seems to capture on NT 4, as it brings up NT > Task Manager on the local machine > > "shift alt tab" seems to capture also, as it does on the local > machine quite the same as "alt tab", but in the reverse > sequence > of programs > > I think I have the most recent versions of Viewer and > "shower", > for I downloaded vnc-3.3.3r9_x86_win32.zip today. When I have > both listening deamons running, in the about box, I have : > > viewer version 3.3.3 R3 ( is it normal it isn't R9 ? ) > and > WinVNC version 3.3.3 R9 > > I hope I don't have to code something on my computer, for I > know > how to use Word, Acces, ... Visual Basic, but this ... I > dunno > yet. > > So, doctor, why does it work on your machine and not on mine ? > > Is it my NT ? > > I'm looking forward to reading you. > > Stifane from Switzerland > > P.S. Is this VNC working different on every machine ?! Did you > read the guy who said "ctrl+down, esc, ctrl+up" works for him > ? > It doesn't for me ... > > > --- Eric Gisse escribis: > > what you do is add shift to any key sequence that windows > > captures > > > > shift control alt del > > shift alt tab > > shift control escape > > > > control C/V/P doesnt need shift because windows doesnt > capture > > it > > > > hope this helps > > > > At 03:21 PM 9/4/2001 +0200, you wrote: > > >Hi All, > > > > > >when I am connecting to other windows PC that has Start > > Console that is set to > > >"Auto Hide", it is very often hard to put the mouse in the > > right position so > > >it becomes visible again. Normaly in any sort of windows I > > use CTRL + ESC if I > > >want to access the Start Menu and Console quickly, but in > VNC > > it brings my > > >computer's Start Menu. > > > > > >Is there a way around this? > > > > > >Thanx in advance, > > > > > > Zoran --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From john_pierson@iname.com Thu Sep 6 00:10:07 2001 From: john_pierson@iname.com (john_pierson@iname.com) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 23:10:07 +0000 Subject: Send Ctrl+Esc to remote computer : really no one knows how ? Message-ID: <0GJ7005ZMMS5SR@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> the pain in the Butt method is to select CTRL Down from the menu, press Esc and there you have it (don't forget to select CTRL Up from the menu aftwards to reset it) John -----Original Message----- From: Stifane Bridy [mailto:stefane.bridy@bigfoot.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:00 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Send Ctrl+Esc to remote computer : really no one knows how ? Hello I asked yesterday how to send Ctrl+Esc to bring up the start menu on a remote machine, but none of the suggestions work ... Does anyone know ? Best thanx for your help Stifane from Stitzerland > Well, I tried out your hints ... > > "shift ctrl+alt+del" works, but it isn't vital as "send > ctrl+alt+del" exists in menu > > "shift ctrl esc" seems to capture on NT 4, as it brings up NT > Task Manager on the local machine > > "shift alt tab" seems to capture also, as it does on the local > machine quite the same as "alt tab", but in the reverse > sequence > of programs > > I think I have the most recent versions of Viewer and > "shower", > for I downloaded vnc-3.3.3r9_x86_win32.zip today. When I have > both listening deamons running, in the about box, I have : > > viewer version 3.3.3 R3 ( is it normal it isn't R9 ? ) > and > WinVNC version 3.3.3 R9 > > I hope I don't have to code something on my computer, for I > know > how to use Word, Acces, ... Visual Basic, but this ... I > dunno > yet. > > So, doctor, why does it work on your machine and not on mine ? > > Is it my NT ? > > I'm looking forward to reading you. > > Stifane from Switzerland > > P.S. Is this VNC working different on every machine ?! Did you > read the guy who said "ctrl+down, esc, ctrl+up" works for him > ? > It doesn't for me ... > > > --- Eric Gisse escribis: > > what you do is add shift to any key sequence that windows > > captures > > > > shift control alt del > > shift alt tab > > shift control escape > > > > control C/V/P doesnt need shift because windows doesnt > capture > > it > > > > hope this helps > > > > At 03:21 PM 9/4/2001 +0200, you wrote: > > >Hi All, > > > > > >when I am connecting to other windows PC that has Start > > Console that is set to > > >"Auto Hide", it is very often hard to put the mouse in the > > right position so > > >it becomes visible again. Normaly in any sort of windows I > > use CTRL + ESC if I > > >want to access the Start Menu and Console quickly, but in > VNC > > it brings my > > >computer's Start Menu. > > > > > >Is there a way around this? > > > > > >Thanx in advance, > > > > > > Zoran --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------- Download ICQ at http://www.icq.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From MattJ@lonestarpark.com Thu Sep 6 00:16:29 2001 From: MattJ@lonestarpark.com (Matt Jusko) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 23:16:29 +0000 Subject: Building VNC for SCO Message-ID: Tim- Hi. My name is Matt Jusko and I am in the same boat regarding compiling the VNC server for SCO Openserver. I was just wondering if you ever got it done and if so, would you share how? Any help would be appreciated. Matt Jusko mattj@lonestarpark.com -----Original Message----- From: Tim Sampson [mailto:tim@columbia-staver.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:10 AM To: VNC Mailing LIst (E-mail) Subject: Building VNC for SCO Hi I have no experience whatsoever of building software from source code. I've edited in the suggested tweaks for SCO Open Server, but what do I do with the code now? Is there a howto or some other easy guide that will help me here? Thanks Tim S --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From zmargareten@CJH.org Thu Sep 6 00:33:45 2001 From: zmargareten@CJH.org (Zalman Margareten) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 23:33:45 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon Message-ID: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126A0@CFJH> I will tell you how to do it if I can only understand what you are trying to accomplish. All they will see is the IP address (when they move the curser over the icon). You can disable opening the properties when clicking on the icon (in the latest version.) I don't recall how but it is explained in the documents. \ Cheers -----Original Message----- From: Joe Sarinana [mailto:jsarinana@ksninc.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:33 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Hiding icon The only reason I want to hide this icon is because I have a computer WIN98 running on a peer to peer network that has JetAdmin installed on it. This computer is our print server for this peer network and from time to time some of the users need to log into this computer and screw with the print jobs. I want to hide it from these users so they don't feel obligated to screw with it just because it's there. Regards Joe S. any help out there ? -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 2:15 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Hiding icon CLAP,CLAP,CLAP on the spying thing and the good folks -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Jonathan Maton Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:52 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Hiding icon "Hiding the tray icon" This is sort of a "taboo" issue... mainly because there seems to be no legitimate reason to hide the server's icon. The only reason I can think of is to facilitate spying on someone, which I believe the good folks at AT&T Research are not interested in advertising, especially after the rather nasty article in Time magazine that proclaimed vnc to be nothing more than "spyware." Having said that... vnc is open source. You can download the source code and make whatever changes you want. But please don't be offended if no one on the list wishes to help you do it. We'd all hate to see the vnc project go closed source (or worse, be discontinued) due to any more bad press, and the "feature" you're after is the heart of it. ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Sarinana" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:11 PM Subject: Hiding icon > I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to it > from a viewer ? > > _____ > > Joe Sarinana > Network and CAD System Manager. > KSN INC. www.ksninc.com > 209-946-0268 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From zmargareten@CJH.org Thu Sep 6 00:40:49 2001 From: zmargareten@CJH.org (Zalman Margareten) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 23:40:49 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available Message-ID: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126A1@CFJH> Great product! thanks Am I missing something? In the list of computers I only see icons with no description of which computers they are. Oh I just noticed, when in the "view details" mode it will list server name. I think that name should appear as default with all views since all icons look the same and there is no way of knowing which computer it is. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ccah@thegreen.co.uk Thu Sep 6 01:29:41 2001 From: ccah@thegreen.co.uk (Ceri Hankey) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 00:29:41 +0000 Subject: vnc as service on w2k References: <000501c1355a$4e14cf80$68395ed8@tgtsolutions.com> Message-ID: <010a01c13661$c86ed980$6764a8c0@ceri4> I have just been thru the same process and found that Win2K had THREE password settings in the registry... HKEY_CURRENT USER and HKEY_USERS had the same key that I had set BUT the HKEY_LOC_MACHINE had a different Default password. I cheated by copying the HKEY_USER password for WinVNC to the HKEY_LOC_MACHINE Default password for VNC Every thing then worked fine. I do not really understand this since on my system (NOT the one a talked about above) all the passwords seem to be the same in the registry! Regards Ceri Hankey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Palocz" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 5:57 PM Subject: RE: vnc as service on w2k > It could be that you have set the user password not the default. this can be > reached via start button -> programs -> vnc -> administrative tools -> show > default settings. > If there is a password shown by **** then just click ok. if not set it to > the same as you are currently using and ok it. > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of > Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 7:30 AM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: vnc as service on w2k > > > Hi out there, > being a novice in using vnc I'm doing something wrong or misunderstood: > 1. I'm running vnc on a w2k machine as a service which works (tray icon > present, service on automatic) > however only after someone logged in > 2. Obviously, after remote reboot I want to re-log in getting a "sorry" from > -.-.:5800 or "authentication > failed" from the viewer until logged in. > I think I've followed all instructions properly. What am I dooing wrong? > Dietmar > > [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a > name of winmail.dat] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From zmargareten@CJH.org Thu Sep 6 01:34:16 2001 From: zmargareten@CJH.org (Zalman Margareten) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 00:34:16 +0000 Subject: VNC Access to pcs behind firewalls Message-ID: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126A2@CFJH> Are u asking about incoming connections or outgoing? Also what firewall do u have, application level, Socks ? You might have to go with some type of tunneling. Give us more details. -----Original Message----- From: Salvatore Palmisano [mailto:spalmisano@usashs.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:59 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: VNC Access to pcs behind firewalls I do this all the time, just map your VNC connect port to the IP of the machine you're looking for and viola. Granted, this means you need either access to the firewall device or you'll have to convince an admin to add the mapping for you. --Salvatore -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:43 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: VNC Access to pcs behind firewalls Anyone's got a clue (besides reading the doc and me being a wizard - however competent to set firewall policies) of how to remotely support people sitting behind a firewall (with NAT) translation txs Dietmar --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.277 / Virus Database: 146 - Release Date: 9/5/2001 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From rudi.de.vos@skynet.be Thu Sep 6 01:56:03 2001 From: rudi.de.vos@skynet.be (De Vos Rudi) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 00:56:03 +0000 Subject: Beta mirror hook driver working Message-ID: <3B96BD01.5B30DD39@skynet.be> Hookdll and polling disabled and it seems to work. Thanks for the hint, I forgot that the cached bitmaps are also copied using drvcopybits. Ringbuffer of 100 was also to small, gets more than 1000/s. Bigger buffer solved the problem of bad updates. still to do 1) Driver need to check if the vncsite ringbuffer exist. _try or something. So driver could direct write to the vnc buffer. Now copy full buffer on each vnc updaterequest. 2) disable the region scanning on vnc site. Need some sleep know. Rudi --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au Thu Sep 6 02:10:34 2001 From: itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au (Ellen Reisinger) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 01:10:34 +0000 Subject: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) Message-ID: <01E09A5A.3154F3A0.itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au> I have searched the http://www.uk.research.att.com/cgi-bin/htsearch to try and find out what vnc commander is. but there were no hits for "vnc commander". can someone please point me in the right driection to read what it is (or for that matter more on vnc). Cheers, Ellen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From malturk2@bellsouth.net Thu Sep 6 02:30:28 2001 From: malturk2@bellsouth.net (Muhamad Alturkistany) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 01:30:28 +0000 Subject: Java viewer is faster than native Windows Viewer!? Message-ID: <001401c1366a$64a43180$896b1442@h884j> Hi I did some performance evaluation and found Java viewer is faster than the native Windows one. Did any one at uk.research.att.com notice this? My intuition, it may be Windows viewer is not optimized specially its use of threads. Any comment is welcome. M Al-Turkistany --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From darryl@the-ackermans.net Thu Sep 6 02:44:36 2001 From: darryl@the-ackermans.net (Darryl Ackerman) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 01:44:36 +0000 Subject: Changing WinVNC service port Message-ID: <00a301c1366c$a5fe7850$0b00a8c0@sfc.net> Does anyone know how to change the port that the server listens on? Thanks, Darryl --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From david.m.fisher@eds.com Thu Sep 6 03:20:18 2001 From: david.m.fisher@eds.com (Fisher, Dave) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 02:20:18 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon Message-ID: <8AA870658244D4119AF600508BDF0A3604BC6507@usahm014.exmi01.ex ch.eds.com> Here is the registry doco on hiding the properties: WinVNC - Advanced Settings Extra options have been added to WinVNC for use primarily by system administrators, to tailor the server's behavior to meet their particular needs. The options are DWORD values which can be set in the system registry, and tools such as the Windows Policy Editor can be used to apply these settings across a large number of machines. Versions 3.3.2 R5 and later use a more sophisticated organisation of these options to allow more flexibility. It also makes it rather complex, so we're thinking about alternative ways of doing this. WinVNC will currently look for settings in the following places: Local machine-specific settings. Options specified here are not overridable. Location: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\ Local default user settings. Location: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\Default Local per-user settings. These override the local default user settings. If there is no current user, the username SYSTEM will be used. Location: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\ Global per-user settings. These are only read if AllowProperties has not been set to zero (see below) Location: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ORL\WinVNC3 Most options can only be specified in a subset of these places, as specified in each option's description below. Advanced Options: AllowProperties If this is set to zero, the user is not allowed to view the properties dialog and hence cannot change any settings, including the password. Note that this stops all global per-user settings. A valid password must therefore be in force before using this setting, generally in the local default-user setting. Local per-user setting. -----Original Message----- From: Zalman Margareten [mailto:zmargareten@CJH.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 6:30 PM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: Hiding icon I will tell you how to do it if I can only understand what you are trying to accomplish. All they will see is the IP address (when they move the curser over the icon). You can disable opening the properties when clicking on the icon (in the latest version.) I don't recall how but it is explained in the documents. \ Cheers -----Original Message----- From: Joe Sarinana [mailto:jsarinana@ksninc.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:33 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Hiding icon The only reason I want to hide this icon is because I have a computer WIN98 running on a peer to peer network that has JetAdmin installed on it. This computer is our print server for this peer network and from time to time some of the users need to log into this computer and screw with the print jobs. I want to hide it from these users so they don't feel obligated to screw with it just because it's there. Regards Joe S. any help out there ? -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 2:15 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Hiding icon CLAP,CLAP,CLAP on the spying thing and the good folks -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Jonathan Maton Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:52 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Hiding icon "Hiding the tray icon" This is sort of a "taboo" issue... mainly because there seems to be no legitimate reason to hide the server's icon. The only reason I can think of is to facilitate spying on someone, which I believe the good folks at AT&T Research are not interested in advertising, especially after the rather nasty article in Time magazine that proclaimed vnc to be nothing more than "spyware." Having said that... vnc is open source. You can download the source code and make whatever changes you want. But please don't be offended if no one on the list wishes to help you do it. We'd all hate to see the vnc project go closed source (or worse, be discontinued) due to any more bad press, and the "feature" you're after is the heart of it. ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Sarinana" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:11 PM Subject: Hiding icon > I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to it > from a viewer ? > > _____ > > Joe Sarinana > Network and CAD System Manager. > KSN INC. www.ksninc.com > 209-946-0268 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Thu Sep 6 03:37:59 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 02:37:59 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available References: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126A1@CFJH> Message-ID: <001c01c13675$5902e500$0201a8c0@athlon1000> You must be missing something, In the large icon mode each icon has a caption that describes the connection. Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zalman Margareten" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:35 PM Subject: RE: New Version of VNC Commander available > Great product! thanks > > Am I missing something? In the list of computers I only see icons with no > description of which computers they are. > Oh I just noticed, when in the "view details" mode it will list server name. > I think that name should appear as default with all views since all icons > look the same and there is no way of knowing which computer it is. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Thu Sep 6 03:38:02 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 02:38:02 +0000 Subject: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) References: <01E09A5A.3154F3A0.itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au> Message-ID: <001401c13675$1ae5b5e0$0201a8c0@athlon1000> You can find out about VNC Commander at my website. http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ellen Reisinger" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2029 7:24 PM Subject: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) > I have searched the http://www.uk.research.att.com/cgi-bin/htsearch to try > and find out what vnc commander is. but there were no hits for "vnc > commander". can someone please point me in the right driection to read what > it is (or for that matter more on vnc). > > Cheers, > > Ellen > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au Thu Sep 6 06:09:08 2001 From: itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au (Ellen Reisinger) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 05:09:08 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon Message-ID: <01E09A7B.7E262980.itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au> Can someone explain this to me in really simple terms (please). I have been in to regedit, found have drilled own and found values under each of the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\ HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\Default HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\ HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ORL\WinVNC3 but am unsure where to proceed from there. I guess it doesn't help that I have a limited understanding of the registry editor. I have tried looking up dword values in my ref text called Optimizing the windows registry, but I still don't quite grasp what I am supposed to put where. Help. Cheers, Ellen -----Original Message----- From: Fisher, Dave [SMTP:david.m.fisher@eds.com] Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2001 10:46 AM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: Hiding icon Here is the registry doco on hiding the properties: WinVNC - Advanced Settings Extra options have been added to WinVNC for use primarily by system administrators, to tailor the server's behavior to meet their particular needs. The options are DWORD values which can be set in the system registry, and tools such as the Windows Policy Editor can be used to apply these settings across a large number of machines. Versions 3.3.2 R5 and later use a more sophisticated organisation of these options to allow more flexibility. It also makes it rather complex, so we're thinking about alternative ways of doing this. WinVNC will currently look for settings in the following places: Local machine-specific settings. Options specified here are not overridable. Location: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\ Local default user settings. Location: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\Default Local per-user settings. These override the local default user settings. If there is no current user, the username SYSTEM will be used. Location: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\ Global per-user settings. These are only read if AllowProperties has not been set to zero (see below) Location: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ORL\WinVNC3 Most options can only be specified in a subset of these places, as specified in each option's description below. Advanced Options: AllowProperties If this is set to zero, the user is not allowed to view the properties dialog and hence cannot change any settings, including the password. Note that this stops all global per-user settings. A valid password must therefore be in force before using this setting, generally in the local default-user setting. Local per-user setting. -----Original Message----- From: Zalman Margareten [mailto:zmargareten@CJH.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 6:30 PM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: Hiding icon I will tell you how to do it if I can only understand what you are trying to accomplish. All they will see is the IP address (when they move the curser over the icon). You can disable opening the properties when clicking on the icon (in the latest version.) I don't recall how but it is explained in the documents. \ Cheers -----Original Message----- From: Joe Sarinana [mailto:jsarinana@ksninc.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:33 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Hiding icon The only reason I want to hide this icon is because I have a computer WIN98 running on a peer to peer network that has JetAdmin installed on it. This computer is our print server for this peer network and from time to time some of the users need to log into this computer and screw with the print jobs. I want to hide it from these users so they don't feel obligated to screw with it just because it's there. Regards Joe S. any help out there ? -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 2:15 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: Hiding icon CLAP,CLAP,CLAP on the spying thing and the good folks -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Jonathan Maton Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:52 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Hiding icon "Hiding the tray icon" This is sort of a "taboo" issue... mainly because there seems to be no legitimate reason to hide the server's icon. The only reason I can think of is to facilitate spying on someone, which I believe the good folks at AT&T Research are not interested in advertising, especially after the rather nasty article in Time magazine that proclaimed vnc to be nothing more than "spyware." Having said that... vnc is open source. You can download the source code and make whatever changes you want. But please don't be offended if no one on the list wishes to help you do it. We'd all hate to see the vnc project go closed source (or worse, be discontinued) due to any more bad press, and the "feature" you're after is the heart of it. ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Sarinana" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:11 PM Subject: Hiding icon > I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to it > from a viewer ? > > _____ > > Joe Sarinana > Network and CAD System Manager. > KSN INC. www.ksninc.com > 209-946-0268 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au Thu Sep 6 09:09:40 2001 From: itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au (Ellen Reisinger) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 08:09:40 +0000 Subject: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) Message-ID: <01E09A93.DE34FF00.itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au> Wow! This is great! We currently have no systems in place to manage our 300 odd computers and 5 servers. We have just started getting into VNC. I can't wait to have winVnc installed on all the workstations! With VNC Commander - Is there a limit to the number of computers you can have listed? What limit is there to the number of concurrent connections? Guess this is all in the documentation. Question about winVNC ... we use dhcp, is there a way that i can log into systems without having to know their ip address, for example using the adapter address (as this info is readily available on my asset db)? Ellen -----Original Message----- From: Tony Caduto [SMTP:tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com] Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2001 11:12 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Cc: itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au Subject: Re: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) You can find out about VNC Commander at my website. http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ellen Reisinger" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2029 7:24 PM Subject: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) > I have searched the http://www.uk.research.att.com/cgi-bin/htsearch to try > and find out what vnc commander is. but there were no hits for "vnc > commander". can someone please point me in the right driection to read what > it is (or for that matter more on vnc). > > Cheers, > > Ellen > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From dwyllie@s-un.co.uk Thu Sep 6 09:28:04 2001 From: dwyllie@s-un.co.uk (Daniel Wyllie) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 08:28:04 +0000 Subject: multiple vncclients? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000401c136a4$986ef6f0$1fab0180@systemsx> Michael, It's easy to prevent new connection requests killing an existing connection. If you are using R9 of ATT's VNC, add the following entry: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3] "ConnectPriority"=dword:00000002 I've used this, and it works a treat. If you need more info on this and the other "features", just look at the AT&T website that documents the VNC Server app: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/winvnc.html Hope that makes sense! :) Regards, Dan Wyllie -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Michael Urban Sent: 05 September 2001 20:27 PM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: multiple vncclients? I have a vnc server running on a win2000 box. Multiple users wish to connect to it. Presently whenever someone connects with vncclient, anyone else connected loses their connection. Is it possible to have multiple connections? Is it possible to prevent others from connecting if one already is connected? Michael. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Thu Sep 6 10:10:57 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 09:10:57 +0000 Subject: VNC Access to pcs behind firewalls In-Reply-To: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126A2@CFJH> Message-ID: it is about inbound servicing individual PCs in a Lan behind an Axent/Raptor firewall from a remote workstation. What I'm wondering particularly about is as to how I would address individual IP adresses behind the firewall etc. I can, however have - within boundaries of security - the firewall configured according to needs Dietmar -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Zalman Margareten Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 1:31 AM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: VNC Access to pcs behind firewalls Are u asking about incoming connections or outgoing? Also what firewall do u have, application level, Socks ? You might have to go with some type of tunneling. Give us more details. -----Original Message----- From: Salvatore Palmisano [mailto:spalmisano@usashs.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:59 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: VNC Access to pcs behind firewalls I do this all the time, just map your VNC connect port to the IP of the machine you're looking for and viola. Granted, this means you need either access to the firewall device or you'll have to convince an admin to add the mapping for you. --Salvatore -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:43 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: VNC Access to pcs behind firewalls Anyone's got a clue (besides reading the doc and me being a wizard - however competent to set firewall policies) of how to remotely support people sitting behind a firewall (with NAT) translation txs Dietmar --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.277 / Virus Database: 146 - Release Date: 9/5/2001 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tim@columbia-staver.co.uk Thu Sep 6 10:12:41 2001 From: tim@columbia-staver.co.uk (Tim Sampson) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 09:12:41 +0000 Subject: Building VNC for SCO Message-ID: Matt I've given up for a while. I got bogged down in trying to compile the tools required to compile VNC. If I ever get there, I may document the process as nobody else seems to have done so. Cheers Tim -----Original Message----- From: Matt Jusko [mailto:MattJ@lonestarpark.com] Sent: 05 September 2001 23:14 To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: Building VNC for SCO Tim- Hi. My name is Matt Jusko and I am in the same boat regarding compiling the VNC server for SCO Openserver. I was just wondering if you ever got it done and if so, would you share how? Any help would be appreciated. Matt Jusko mattj@lonestarpark.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Thu Sep 6 10:34:15 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 09:34:15 +0000 Subject: Changing WinVNC service port In-Reply-To: <00a301c1366c$a5fe7850$0b00a8c0@sfc.net> Message-ID: May I add to this the question as to which ports are actually used for what: (i) 5900 by commander/viewer? (ii) 5800 over the browser ? and how can they be changed (see below) -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Darryl Ackerman Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 2:41 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Changing WinVNC service port Does anyone know how to change the port that the server listens on? Thanks, Darryl --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From yan@cardinalengineering.com Thu Sep 6 11:54:22 2001 From: yan@cardinalengineering.com (Yan Seiner) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 10:54:22 +0000 Subject: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) References: <01E09A93.DE34FF00.itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au> Message-ID: <3B97462A.9E9E900E@cardinalengineering.com> This is why I don't use DHCP..... You could cross-reference from arp tables to MAC addresses. I don't know if your machine is win or linux; on linux: [yan@aphrodite yan]$ /sbin/arp Address HWtype HWaddress Flags Mask Iface ophelia.cardinal.lan ether 00:A0:24:89:C7:9F C eth0 hamlet.cardinal.lan ether 00:A0:24:89:C7:9F C eth0 othello-er.cardinal.lan ppp 00:A0:24:89:C7:9F CM tun3 othello-r.cardinal.lan ppp 00:A0:24:89:C7:9F CM tun1 portia.cardinalengineer ether 00:60:68:80:34:9C C eth1 oberon-r.cardinal.lan ppp 00:60:68:80:34:9C CM tun0 A neat cross-refence between computer names (or ip addresses if you're not running DNS) and MAC addresses. (Ignore the duplicates; the machines above are "virtual" with no real hardware). --Yan Ellen Reisinger wrote: > > Wow! This is great! We currently have no systems in place to manage our > 300 odd computers and 5 servers. We have just started getting into VNC. I > can't wait to have winVnc installed on all the workstations! > > With VNC Commander - Is there a limit to the number of computers you can > have listed? What limit is there to the number of concurrent connections? > Guess this is all in the documentation. > > Question about winVNC ... we use dhcp, is there a way that i can log into > systems without having to know their ip address, for example using the > adapter address (as this info is readily available on my asset db)? > > Ellen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From david.m.fisher@eds.com Thu Sep 6 12:20:26 2001 From: david.m.fisher@eds.com (Fisher, Dave) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 11:20:26 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon Message-ID: <8AA870658244D4119AF600508BDF0A3604BC6506@usahm014.exmi01.ex ch.eds.com> The icon shows in the task bar because WinVNC with the -servicehelper flag is in the RUN on startup list. As long as you have WinVNC set up as a service it will start up whey your PC does. You do not need the service helper running to run WinVNC. Use Policy Editor or edit the registry and remove it. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Sarinana [mailto:jsarinana@ksninc.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:12 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Hiding icon I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to it from a viewer ? _____ Joe Sarinana Network and CAD System Manager. KSN INC. www.ksninc.com 209-946-0268 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From stuart.loughran@ntu.ac.uk Thu Sep 6 12:51:16 2001 From: stuart.loughran@ntu.ac.uk (Loughran, Stuart) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 11:51:16 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon Message-ID: <03754DDCC645D311AA6700805F854E4304A872CE@lotus.ntu.ac.uk> On the other hand, is there a way of the client being notified that their machine is being viewed by way of a pop up message or other? Stu -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Maton [mailto:jmaton@viztek.net] Sent: 05 September 2001 21:52 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Hiding icon "Hiding the tray icon" This is sort of a "taboo" issue... mainly because there seems to be no legitimate reason to hide the server's icon. The only reason I can think of is to facilitate spying on someone, which I believe the good folks at AT&T Research are not interested in advertising, especially after the rather nasty article in Time magazine that proclaimed vnc to be nothing more than "spyware." Having said that... vnc is open source. You can download the source code and make whatever changes you want. But please don't be offended if no one on the list wishes to help you do it. We'd all hate to see the vnc project go closed source (or worse, be discontinued) due to any more bad press, and the "feature" you're after is the heart of it. ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Sarinana" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:11 PM Subject: Hiding icon > I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to it > from a viewer ? > > _____ > > Joe Sarinana > Network and CAD System Manager. > KSN INC. www.ksninc.com > 209-946-0268 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Thu Sep 6 14:10:30 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 13:10:30 +0000 Subject: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04D8F@QMAIL> The only way to do this that I can think of on Windows without "knowing their IP address" would be to set up a dynamic DNS solution (there are a number of providers for this, off-hand see http://www.dyndns.org and if you want to set up your own "service" I think I saw something on http://freshmeat.net). In this method, there's a small client program that runs on the windows machine you want to control, you set each machine up with it's own hostname (ie, box1.domain.com, box2.domain.com, etc), and therefore when each machine "connects" to the network, the client program broadcasts out the system's current IP to the configured DNS server - so you can always hit "box1.domain.com" and always have it go to Bob's machine. On second thought, the other way to do this would be to use VNCScan from your desktop if you as the controller are running Windows as well (see the "contrib" section on the VNC site), except you may have to scan frequently depending on how long you've set your DHCP leases to expire. Good luck. Glenn -----Original Message----- From: Ellen Reisinger [mailto:itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2029 3:18 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) Wow! This is great! We currently have no systems in place to manage our 300 odd computers and 5 servers. We have just started getting into VNC. I can't wait to have winVnc installed on all the workstations! With VNC Commander - Is there a limit to the number of computers you can have listed? What limit is there to the number of concurrent connections? Guess this is all in the documentation. Question about winVNC ... we use dhcp, is there a way that i can log into systems without having to know their ip address, for example using the adapter address (as this info is readily available on my asset db)? Ellen -----Original Message----- From: Tony Caduto [SMTP:tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com] Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2001 11:12 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Cc: itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au Subject: Re: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) You can find out about VNC Commander at my website. http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ellen Reisinger" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2029 7:24 PM Subject: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) > I have searched the http://www.uk.research.att.com/cgi-bin/htsearch to try > and find out what vnc commander is. but there were no hits for "vnc > commander". can someone please point me in the right driection to read what > it is (or for that matter more on vnc). > > Cheers, > > Ellen > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Thu Sep 6 14:19:00 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 13:19:00 +0000 Subject: multiple vncclients? Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04D90@QMAIL> As someone already posted, connection behaviour on Windows is controlled with the "ConnectPriority" registry key. It should also be noted that there's an option on the viewer side to "request shared connection", which by default will allow multiple connections to the same desktop. Just to clarify (and you probably already know this), winvnc will allow multiple connections to the SAME desktop on Windows, but you presently can't get DIFFERENT desktops under Windows with VNC. Thanks, Glenn -----Original Message----- From: Michael Urban [mailto:murban@thinkinginvestments.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 3:27 PM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: multiple vncclients? I have a vnc server running on a win2000 box. Multiple users wish to connect to it. Presently whenever someone connects with vncclient, anyone else connected loses their connection. Is it possible to have multiple connections? Is it possible to prevent others from connecting if one already is connected? Michael. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Thu Sep 6 14:20:33 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 13:20:33 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04D91@QMAIL> Yes, on Windows consult the documentation for the "AuthHosts" key. -----Original Message----- From: Loughran, Stuart [mailto:stuart.loughran@ntu.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 6:47 AM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: Hiding icon On the other hand, is there a way of the client being notified that their machine is being viewed by way of a pop up message or other? Stu -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Maton [mailto:jmaton@viztek.net] Sent: 05 September 2001 21:52 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Hiding icon "Hiding the tray icon" This is sort of a "taboo" issue... mainly because there seems to be no legitimate reason to hide the server's icon. The only reason I can think of is to facilitate spying on someone, which I believe the good folks at AT&T Research are not interested in advertising, especially after the rather nasty article in Time magazine that proclaimed vnc to be nothing more than "spyware." Having said that... vnc is open source. You can download the source code and make whatever changes you want. But please don't be offended if no one on the list wishes to help you do it. We'd all hate to see the vnc project go closed source (or worse, be discontinued) due to any more bad press, and the "feature" you're after is the heart of it. ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Sarinana" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:11 PM Subject: Hiding icon > I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to it > from a viewer ? > > _____ > > Joe Sarinana > Network and CAD System Manager. > KSN INC. www.ksninc.com > 209-946-0268 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com Thu Sep 6 14:35:27 2001 From: Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com (Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 13:35:27 +0000 Subject: Hiding Icon Message-ID: Ellen, I as yourself have only played with VNC for a day or two. The registry editing can seem a bit mysterious, but really isn't that bad. >From what i've used, the section i've been editing is: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\Default (which I think affects everyone who logs on the machine...admins included.) For example AllowProperties. You will not see this in the registry settings, but to add this value. Right click on Default/New/DWord Value, type in the name of the value AllowProperties and set the value to 1. A setting of 1 will allow users to access the properties. Close winvnc and stop the service "net stop winvnc" Change the AllowProperties Value to 0. Close regedit, start winvnc "net start winvnc", start the srevice helper if its not there. C:\Program Files\Orl\Vnc\winvnc -srevice helper (from CMD prompt) and try to access the properties. You should now see that it is greyed out and inacessible. The same works the DWord value AllowShutdown. This way, you can prevent users from changing the properties or closing the tray icon. I'm assuming that as long as they have admin rights, a user could still run "net stop winvnc". ps...always try to have the machine your connecting to be set to run winvnc as service. - -----Original Message----- Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2029 13:53:19 +0930 From: Ellen Reisinger Subject: RE: Hiding icon Can someone explain this to me in really simple terms (please). I have been in to regedit, found have drilled own and found values under each of the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\ HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\Default HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\ HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ORL\WinVNC3 but am unsure where to proceed from there. I guess it doesn't help that I have a limited understanding of the registry editor. I have tried looking up dword values in my ref text called Optimizing the windows registry, but I still don't quite grasp what I am supposed to put where. Help. Cheers, Ellen ----------------------------- - --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com Thu Sep 6 15:02:11 2001 From: Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com (Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 14:02:11 +0000 Subject: Auto Install VNC on Win2K Domain ? Message-ID: I am trying to push VNC to my workstations with my current registry settings. I think there are 2 or 3 possible ways to do this. 1. Using the "FastPush" script: http://www.synik.f9.co.uk/vnc/ 2. Using a customizable setup creator: http://www.jrsoftware.org/isinfo.htm 3. Using Win2K Group Policies to install ? Option 1. seems to be possible using a standard login script with many modifications. Option 2. would work if i could get everyone to run the setup. Option 3. may be the best bet. I'm familiar with setting policies for locking desktops and explorer etc., but not with pushing out software. So...If anyone has tried this and gotten it to work, or has any ideas i'd like to hear about it. Thanks, Mark Johnson Systems Admin URS, Bethesda MD --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Thu Sep 6 15:08:17 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 14:08:17 +0000 Subject: Changing WinVNC service port Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04D92@QMAIL> yes, consult the winvnc documentation for "AutoPortSelect" and "PortNumber" registry keys. -----Original Message----- From: Darryl Ackerman [mailto:darryl@the-ackermans.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 8:41 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Changing WinVNC service port Does anyone know how to change the port that the server listens on? Thanks, Darryl --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jmaton@viztek.net Thu Sep 6 15:09:42 2001 From: jmaton@viztek.net (Jonathan Maton) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 14:09:42 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon References: <03754DDCC645D311AA6700805F854E4304A872CE@lotus.ntu.ac.uk> Message-ID: <006201c136d4$a022dad0$6c886f0c@tupac> Ah - now this is a good question. Currently the tray icon reverses colors, but if your resolution is very large (say 1024x768 or higher) the icon is so small anyway that one is likely not to notice the change. For our purposes we were considering making the icon blink between normal and reversed colors for the entire duration that a viewer is connected. We considered a pop-up message, but that is a bit too intrusive, especially if your clients are radiologists trying to read exams. I will probably end up doing the icon-flash thing, if anyone is interested in the change I will post the relevant lines of code to enable the effect. ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loughran, Stuart" To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 6:47 AM Subject: RE: Hiding icon > On the other hand, is there a way of the client being notified that their > machine is being viewed by way of a pop up message or other? > > Stu > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Maton [mailto:jmaton@viztek.net] > Sent: 05 September 2001 21:52 > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: Hiding icon > > > "Hiding the tray icon" > > This is sort of a "taboo" issue... mainly because there seems to be no > legitimate reason to hide the server's icon. The only reason I can think of > is to facilitate spying on someone, which I believe the good folks at AT&T > Research are not interested in advertising, especially after the rather > nasty article in Time magazine that proclaimed vnc to be nothing more than > "spyware." > > Having said that... vnc is open source. You can download the source code > and make whatever changes you want. But please don't be offended if no one > on the list wishes to help you do it. We'd all hate to see the vnc project > go closed source (or worse, be discontinued) due to any more bad press, and > the "feature" you're after is the heart of it. > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Jonathan Maton, Development Team > Viztek, Inc. > > makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software > (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) > ------------------------------------------------------ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Sarinana" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:11 PM > Subject: Hiding icon > > > > I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to > it > > from a viewer ? > > > > _____ > > > > Joe Sarinana > > Network and CAD System Manager. > > KSN INC. www.ksninc.com > > 209-946-0268 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jnw22@cam.ac.uk Thu Sep 6 15:14:15 2001 From: jnw22@cam.ac.uk (James ''Wez'' Weatherall) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 14:14:15 +0000 Subject: WinVNC 3.3.3r7/r9 and Win2K Reboots Message-ID: <001501c136d5$7a04bf70$1062a981@eng.cam.ac.uk> To clarify a few points about sudden reboots of Win2K and their apparent relation to WinVNC in some cases: WinVNC can be very CPU, network and display intensive. The consequences of this are that a problem in any one of these systems can cause seemingly unpredictable bluescreens or even sudden reboots. Problems with drivers will usually show up in the form of blue-screen errors, which suggests that the recently reported problems are not in drivers. However, ensuring that you have the latest drivers for your system and, where possible, that they are certified drivers for Win2K, is a good plan. As for sudden reboots without the normal bluescreen - this could be caused either by a faulty power supply (a very common cause), or by a motherboard previously damaged by a faulty power supply, or by the power supply being incapable of powering a machine with so many devices, or by the CPU overheating and the motherboard shutting it off, for example. Obviously, these are just examples but in my experience they're good things to check. Programs such as SiSoft's Sandra can often highlight subtle problems in systems. (I mention Sandra because I personally have used it and I would recommend it - this is not a formal endorsement and has nothing to do with AT&T Labs, AT&T, or the LCE!) Cheers, --- James "Wez" Weatherall "The path to enlightenment is /usr/bin/enlightenment" Laboratory for Communications Engineering, Cambridge - Tel : 766513 AT&T Labs Cambridge, UK - Tel : 343000 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From shobson@colony.com Thu Sep 6 15:34:13 2001 From: shobson@colony.com (Simon Hobson) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 14:34:13 +0000 Subject: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) In-Reply-To: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04D8F@QMAIL> Message-ID: Glenn Mabbutt wrote: >The only way to do this that I can think of on Windows without "knowing >their IP address" would be to set up a dynamic DNS solution (there are a >number of providers for this, off-hand see http://www.dyndns.org and if you >want to set up your own "service" I think I saw something on >http://freshmeat.net). In this method, there's a small client program that >runs on the windows machine you want to control, you set each machine up >with it's own hostname (ie, box1.domain.com, box2.domain.com, etc), and >therefore when each machine "connects" to the network, the client program >broadcasts out the system's current IP to the configured DNS server - so you >can always hit "box1.domain.com" and always have it go to Bob's machine. If you have a system to host it on, you could also use the DHCP and DNS servers from the Internet Software Consortium (www.isc.org), or others, and do dynamic DNS updates from the DHCP server. This requires no special provisions on the clients to keep an up-to-date DNS. I'm fairly certain that W2000 can do dynamic updates in the DNS server, but I don't know about it's DHCP server (I avoid Windoze as much as possible). Simon --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From stuart.loughran@ntu.ac.uk Thu Sep 6 15:38:24 2001 From: stuart.loughran@ntu.ac.uk (Loughran, Stuart) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 14:38:24 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon Message-ID: <03754DDCC645D311AA6700805F854E4304A872D5@lotus.ntu.ac.uk> Our clients may not notice if their machine had disappeared never mind an icon that blinks. For my purposes, I don't even want to enter into the violation argument and I want to give my users as much notice as possible that I'm taking over their machine or watching what they do in a particular instance. Stu -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Maton [mailto:jmaton@viztek.net] Sent: 06 September 2001 14:05 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Hiding icon Ah - now this is a good question. Currently the tray icon reverses colors, but if your resolution is very large (say 1024x768 or higher) the icon is so small anyway that one is likely not to notice the change. For our purposes we were considering making the icon blink between normal and reversed colors for the entire duration that a viewer is connected. We considered a pop-up message, but that is a bit too intrusive, especially if your clients are radiologists trying to read exams. I will probably end up doing the icon-flash thing, if anyone is interested in the change I will post the relevant lines of code to enable the effect. ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loughran, Stuart" To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 6:47 AM Subject: RE: Hiding icon > On the other hand, is there a way of the client being notified that their > machine is being viewed by way of a pop up message or other? > > Stu > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Maton [mailto:jmaton@viztek.net] > Sent: 05 September 2001 21:52 > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: Hiding icon > > > "Hiding the tray icon" > > This is sort of a "taboo" issue... mainly because there seems to be no > legitimate reason to hide the server's icon. The only reason I can think of > is to facilitate spying on someone, which I believe the good folks at AT&T > Research are not interested in advertising, especially after the rather > nasty article in Time magazine that proclaimed vnc to be nothing more than > "spyware." > > Having said that... vnc is open source. You can download the source code > and make whatever changes you want. But please don't be offended if no one > on the list wishes to help you do it. We'd all hate to see the vnc project > go closed source (or worse, be discontinued) due to any more bad press, and > the "feature" you're after is the heart of it. > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Jonathan Maton, Development Team > Viztek, Inc. > > makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software > (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) > ------------------------------------------------------ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Sarinana" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:11 PM > Subject: Hiding icon > > > > I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to > it > > from a viewer ? > > > > _____ > > > > Joe Sarinana > > Network and CAD System Manager. > > KSN INC. www.ksninc.com > > 209-946-0268 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From illtud.daniel@llgc.org.uk Thu Sep 6 16:15:32 2001 From: illtud.daniel@llgc.org.uk (Illtud Daniel) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 15:15:32 +0000 Subject: Auto Install VNC on Win2K Domain ? References: Message-ID: <3B978462.6483E1CA@llgc.org.uk> Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com wrote: > I am trying to push VNC to my workstations with my current registry > settings. I think there are 2 or 3 possible ways to do this. > 1. Using the "FastPush" script: http://www.synik.f9.co.uk/vnc/ > 2. Using a customizable setup creator: http://www.jrsoftware.org/isinfo.htm > 3. Using Win2K Group Policies to install ? Have you looked at MSIEXEC? It's the windows installer toolkit thingy. We've successfully pushed out software to NT4.0sp6 clients with it. You basically create a MSI file with the registry changes and the files you want to install, and it does the rest. There's a few links about it here: http://www.swynk.com/trent/Articles/msiexeccom.asp http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/msi/hh/msi/app_4w9x.asp http://www.realtimesoft.com/update/default.asp and a link to the instmsiw.exe file (cos I had trouble finding it otherwise): http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdn-files/027/001/456/instmsiw.exe We haven't used it for VNC (we modified fastpush), but if we get round to it, I'll post the .msi file here. -- Illtud Daniel illtud.daniel@llgc.org.uk Uwch Ddadansoddwr Systemau Senior Systems Analyst Llyfrgell Genedlaethol Cymru National Library of Wales Yn siarad drosof fy hun, nid LlGC - Speaking personally, not for NLW --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Manuel.Lorenzo@HCAHealthcare.com Thu Sep 6 16:40:28 2001 From: Manuel.Lorenzo@HCAHealthcare.com (Lorenzo Manuel) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 15:40:28 +0000 Subject: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) Message-ID: We use dhcp also and we can log into the systems by using their computer name. -----Original Message----- From: Ellen Reisinger [mailto:itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2029 03:18 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) Wow! This is great! We currently have no systems in place to manage our 300 odd computers and 5 servers. We have just started getting into VNC. I can't wait to have winVnc installed on all the workstations! With VNC Commander - Is there a limit to the number of computers you can have listed? What limit is there to the number of concurrent connections? Guess this is all in the documentation. Question about winVNC ... we use dhcp, is there a way that i can log into systems without having to know their ip address, for example using the adapter address (as this info is readily available on my asset db)? Ellen -----Original Message----- From: Tony Caduto [SMTP:tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com] Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2001 11:12 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Cc: itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au Subject: Re: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) You can find out about VNC Commander at my website. http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ellen Reisinger" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2029 7:24 PM Subject: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) > I have searched the http://www.uk.research.att.com/cgi-bin/htsearch to try > and find out what vnc commander is. but there were no hits for "vnc > commander". can someone please point me in the right driection to read what > it is (or for that matter more on vnc). > > Cheers, > > Ellen > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From steveb@tshore.com Thu Sep 6 16:50:24 2001 From: steveb@tshore.com (Steve Bostedor) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 15:50:24 +0000 Subject: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <006101c136e2$ac614850$f49575d1@steveb2k> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 VNCScan (http://tgcs.web-it.com) will scan your IP subnet and place them in a list. This is very helpful if you use DHCP or don't feel like manually maintaining a list of 305 computers. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- - -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Simon Hobson Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 9:02 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) Glenn Mabbutt wrote: >The only way to do this that I can think of on Windows without >"knowing their IP address" would be to set up a dynamic DNS >solution (there are a number of providers for this, off-hand see >http://www.dyndns.org and if you want to set up your own "service" I >think I saw something on >http://freshmeat.net). In this method, there's a small client >program that runs on the windows machine you want to control, you >set each machine up with it's own hostname (ie, box1.domain.com, >box2.domain.com, etc), and therefore when each machine "connects" to >the network, the client program broadcasts out the system's current >IP to the configured DNS server - so you can always hit >"box1.domain.com" and always have it go to Bob's machine. If you have a system to host it on, you could also use the DHCP and DNS servers from the Internet Software Consortium (www.isc.org), or others, and do dynamic DNS updates from the DHCP server. This requires no special provisions on the clients to keep an up-to-date DNS. I'm fairly certain that W2000 can do dynamic updates in the DNS server, but I don't know about it's DHCP server (I avoid Windoze as much as possible). Simon - --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html - --------------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBO5eMM8Yb6ASsYP45EQKCygCg+ZrKngiB83p3mFyPdYWstgkqOowAn2// dKeALYAz520c1tAhvIKh5Qn2 =zwJR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From David.Edward.Shapiro@btitele.com Thu Sep 6 16:52:09 2001 From: David.Edward.Shapiro@btitele.com (David Edward Shapiro) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 15:52:09 +0000 Subject: Running java apps off unix box Message-ID: <549AB966B45DD311A58A0000E86CEA8D0CAED71E@postoffice.btitele .com> If I run reflections or hummingbird and start my java app, it works fine, but if I run it through vnc, it gets errors and crashes. Why would there be any difference? David --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Thu Sep 6 17:09:08 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 16:09:08 +0000 Subject: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) References: <01E09A93.DE34FF00.itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au> Message-ID: <001f01c136e5$46bd5b30$84061fac@tr3789> Ellen, There is no limit to the number of connections you can create with VNC Commander, except of course the limits of your PC itself. Again, concurrent running connections is limited by the resources of your PC and the bandwidth available on you LAN/WAN. You can use DNS or WINS names with VNC without problem. Tony Caduto --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From zmargareten@CJH.org Thu Sep 6 17:23:12 2001 From: zmargareten@CJH.org (Zalman Margareten) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 16:23:12 +0000 Subject: VNC Access to pcs behind firewalls Message-ID: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126A8@CFJH> Then you can either do the -connect option (run "winvnc -connect ipaddress/hos)from the server side, or map port 5800 and 5900 at the firewall to the particular workstation. If you have more then one workstation that you are trying to connect to, then you will need to configure each workstation to listen on a different port then the default 5800 and 5900. The easiest way to set this would be through the display setting in the properties. Note the port # will be the display value plus 5800. So for example if you set it to listen with display 10 you will enter at the viewer "vncviewer ipaddress:5810". Read up in the documents for more detail. Good luck -----Original Message----- From: Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de [mailto:Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de] Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 4:09 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: VNC Access to pcs behind firewalls it is about inbound servicing individual PCs in a Lan behind an Axent/Raptor firewall from a remote workstation. What I'm wondering particularly about is as to how I would address individual IP adresses behind the firewall etc. I can, however have - within boundaries of security - the firewall configured according to needs Dietmar -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Zalman Margareten Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 1:31 AM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: VNC Access to pcs behind firewalls Are u asking about incoming connections or outgoing? Also what firewall do u have, application level, Socks ? You might have to go with some type of tunneling. Give us more details. -----Original Message----- From: Salvatore Palmisano [mailto:spalmisano@usashs.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:59 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: VNC Access to pcs behind firewalls I do this all the time, just map your VNC connect port to the IP of the machine you're looking for and viola. Granted, this means you need either access to the firewall device or you'll have to convince an admin to add the mapping for you. --Salvatore -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:43 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: VNC Access to pcs behind firewalls Anyone's got a clue (besides reading the doc and me being a wizard - however competent to set firewall policies) of how to remotely support people sitting behind a firewall (with NAT) translation txs Dietmar --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.277 / Virus Database: 146 - Release Date: 9/5/2001 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From zmargareten@CJH.org Thu Sep 6 17:25:44 2001 From: zmargareten@CJH.org (Zalman Margareten) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 16:25:44 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available Message-ID: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126A9@CFJH> I reinstalled VNC Commander and still have the same problem. FYI we are running win2000 pro. -----Original Message----- From: Tony Caduto [mailto:tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:44 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: New Version of VNC Commander available You must be missing something, In the large icon mode each icon has a caption that describes the connection. Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zalman Margareten" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:35 PM Subject: RE: New Version of VNC Commander available > Great product! thanks > > Am I missing something? In the list of computers I only see icons with no > description of which computers they are. > Oh I just noticed, when in the "view details" mode it will list server name. > I think that name should appear as default with all views since all icons > look the same and there is no way of knowing which computer it is. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Thu Sep 6 18:13:10 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 17:13:10 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available References: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126A9@CFJH> Message-ID: <003b01c136ed$f4fc9eb0$84061fac@tr3789> I don't know what to tell you, I developed in on Win200 Pro. I see captions under my icons, Maybe it has something to do with your fonts? Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zalman Margareten" To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 10:21 AM Subject: RE: New Version of VNC Commander available > I reinstalled VNC Commander and still have the same problem. FYI we are > running win2000 pro. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Caduto [mailto:tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:44 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: New Version of VNC Commander available > > > You must be missing something, > In the large icon mode each icon has a caption that describes the > connection. > > Tony Caduto > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zalman Margareten" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:35 PM > Subject: RE: New Version of VNC Commander available > > > > Great product! thanks > > > > Am I missing something? In the list of computers I only see icons with no > > description of which computers they are. > > Oh I just noticed, when in the "view details" mode it will list server > name. > > I think that name should appear as default with all views since all icons > > look the same and there is no way of knowing which computer it is. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Thu Sep 6 19:17:16 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 18:17:16 +0000 Subject: VNC and SDSL Message-ID: I'v got to cater for two setups involving SDSL with Lucent CellPipes which connect two lans and provide these lans with access general access to the internet. Both Pipes - according to what the two different providers confirm upon questionning - have been setup in there internal routing tables so that ports 5800 and 5900 are NATed to the internal IP adresses were vnc server is running as a service. Everything works properly within the lans. However in setup 1: if I run the Browser/java interface I'm getting the login screen, can type the password, but nothing happens (not even "sorry" except that after a few seconds I receive "javanet.NoRoute to hostException: Operation timed out." which appears not to be the case as I get the login (?!). when running trhough the viewer, after a few seconds I get "Failed to connect to server" setup2: I'm not getting anything at all - which tells me that the set-up is not correct has anybody got a hint to resolve setup 1 - which might then after correction of setup 2 help to make this run as well Mit freundlichen Gr|ssen Dietmar Friesch ------------------------------------------------------------ NEUE DIENSTLEISTUNGEN: Software Process Assessment nach ISO15504/SPICE, ISO/IEC 12207 und BOOTSTRAP durch zertifizierte Pr|fer von ISIS Consulting und Fraunhofer Gesellschaft/IESE ------------------------------------------------------------ __ ___ __ ___ ( ) / __) ( ) / __) || \__ \ || \__ \ (__) (___/ (__) (___/ ISISConsulting Dietmar Friesch Information Systems Information Strategies Altkoenigstrasse 8 D-60323 Frankfurt Phone: +49 (0)69 9720 2256 Fax: +49 (0)69 9720 2257 Cell: +49 (0)172 690 8683 Web: www.isisconsulting.de [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From andrew-vnc-list-digest@andrew82.net Thu Sep 6 19:35:48 2001 From: andrew-vnc-list-digest@andrew82.net (Andrew Stockment) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 18:35:48 +0000 Subject: How to Set AllowLoopback? Message-ID: Howdy, I have been trying to set VNC to AllowLoopback. I read the directions on the website. However, I can't find an AllowLoopback entry anywhere in the Windows registry. Do I have to create a new key? If so, how do I do this? (I run Win98 SE.) Thanks, Andrew :-) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jamesvnclist@tnjinfl.com Thu Sep 6 19:55:03 2001 From: jamesvnclist@tnjinfl.com (James Pifer) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 18:55:03 +0000 Subject: How to Set AllowLoopback? References: Message-ID: <01ba01c136fc$6b466ac0$1d01a8c0@BugsBunny> Here's the key that I have exported from Windows 2000. [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3] "AllowLoopback"=dword:00000001 James ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Stockment" To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 1:30 PM Subject: How to Set AllowLoopback? > Howdy, > > I have been trying to set VNC to AllowLoopback. I read the directions on the > website. However, I can't find an AllowLoopback entry anywhere in the Windows > registry. Do I have to create a new key? If so, how do I do this? (I run Win98 > SE.) > > Thanks, > Andrew :-) > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From stefane.bridy@bigfoot.com Thu Sep 6 20:39:56 2001 From: stefane.bridy@bigfoot.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?St=E9fane_Bridy?=) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 19:39:56 +0000 Subject: Thanx-Re: RE: Send Ctrl+Esc to remote computer : really no one knows how ? In-Reply-To: <0GJ7005ZMMS5SR@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> Message-ID: <3B97DE54.10474.15FBE7@localhost> Tank you John! Yesterday someone told me something like that, but I understood then that "control down" was Ctrl + arrow down ! And I hadn't either understood that "Send control down" meant holding the key control down ! Thanx for the precision, it's working all right. Actually, I've been reading more closely the documentation and finally found it by the time you just before I read your answer. Thanx a lot Stifane Date sent: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 17:07:18 +0600 From: john_pierson@iname.com Subject: RE: Send Ctrl+Esc to remote computer : really no one knows how ? To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Send reply to: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > the pain in the Butt method is to select CTRL Down from the menu, > press Esc and there you have it (don't forget to select CTRL Up from > the menu aftwards to reset it) > > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stifane Bridy [mailto:stefane.bridy@bigfoot.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:00 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Send Ctrl+Esc to remote computer : really no one knows how ? > > > Hello > > I asked yesterday how to send Ctrl+Esc to bring up the start menu on a > remote machine, but none of the suggestions work ... Does anyone > know ? > > Best thanx for your help > > Stifane from Stitzerland > > > > Well, I tried out your hints ... > > > > "shift ctrl+alt+del" works, but it isn't vital as "send > > ctrl+alt+del" exists in menu > > > > "shift ctrl esc" seems to capture on NT 4, as it brings up NT > > Task Manager on the local machine > > > > "shift alt tab" seems to capture also, as it does on the local > > machine quite the same as "alt tab", but in the reverse > > sequence > > of programs > > > > I think I have the most recent versions of Viewer and > > "shower", > > for I downloaded vnc-3.3.3r9_x86_win32.zip today. When I have > > both listening deamons running, in the about box, I have : > > > > viewer version 3.3.3 R3 ( is it normal it isn't R9 ? ) > > and > > WinVNC version 3.3.3 R9 > > > > I hope I don't have to code something on my computer, for I > > know > > how to use Word, Acces, ... Visual Basic, but this ... I > > dunno > > yet. > > > > So, doctor, why does it work on your machine and not on mine ? > > > > Is it my NT ? > > > > I'm looking forward to reading you. > > > > Stifane from Switzerland > > > > P.S. Is this VNC working different on every machine ?! Did you > > read the guy who said "ctrl+down, esc, ctrl+up" works for him > > ? > > It doesn't for me ... > > > > > > --- Eric Gisse escribis: > > > what you do is add shift to any key sequence that windows > > > captures > > > > > > shift control alt del > > > shift alt tab > > > shift control escape > > > > > > control C/V/P doesnt need shift because windows doesnt > > capture > > > it > > > > > > hope this helps > > > > > > At 03:21 PM 9/4/2001 +0200, you wrote: > > > >Hi All, > > > > > > > >when I am connecting to other windows PC that has Start > > > Console that is set to > > > >"Auto Hide", it is very often hard to put the mouse in the > > > right position so > > > >it becomes visible again. Normaly in any sort of windows I > > > use CTRL + ESC if I > > > >want to access the Start Menu and Console quickly, but in > > VNC > > > it brings my > > > >computer's Start Menu. > > > > > > > >Is there a way around this? > > > > > > > >Thanx in advance, > > > > > > > > Zoran > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to > majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---------------------------------- > Download ICQ at http://www.icq.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to > majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com Thu Sep 6 20:50:41 2001 From: Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com (Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 19:50:41 +0000 Subject: Stopping Service on Win95/98, Query Settings ? Message-ID: Another question. Scenario: After having created an .exe package, i tested it on a Win2K machine and it installed with the correct registry settings and uninstalled correctly. I tested it on a Win98 PC and it too installed correctly and started VNC as a service, but the uninstall failed. Win95/98 do not recognize the command "net stop winvnc". I could use the -kill command instead, but i disabled the shutdown and the properties. I am able to manually remove the files and .reg settings etc. Q: The questino still remains, how to stop the service on Win95/98 once its started ? Scenario: When connecting to a users PC, I want the user to be able to click either accept or reject connection. Q: Which settings do i change. QuerySetting,QueryTimeout. Currently QuerySetting is on 2. Thanks Mark Johnson mark_johnson@urscorp.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From louis@webtedium.com Thu Sep 6 20:52:45 2001 From: louis@webtedium.com (Louis Sabet) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 19:52:45 +0000 Subject: xfs with vnc on OpenBSD/RedHat Linux Message-ID: Hi, I'm having problems getting VNC to use an external XFS server. I have two machines: One RedHat machine which is running XFS and VNCSERVER. This uses XFS ok when I modify one of the lines in /usr/bin/vncserver to read $cmd = "Xvnc -fp tcp/localhost:7100 :$displayNumber"; I also have an OpenBSD server which is running VNCSERVER and I want to connect to XFS on the RedHat machine. This is the machine I can't get to work. VNC itself works fine, but I can't connect to the XFS server. The xfs port is open to external clients, as I can telnet to port 7100 on the redhat machine. The line in /usr/local/bin/vncserver on the OpenBSD machine currently reads: $cmd = "Xvnc -fp tcp/redhat:7100 :$displayNumber"; although I have also tried the following to no avail: $cmd = "Xvnc -fp tcp/192.168.1.101:7100 :$displayNumber"; $cmd = "Xvnc -fp tcp/redhat.sabetonline.com:7100 :$displayNumber"; redhat and redhat.sabetonline.com are in /etc/hosts, both are pingable and as I mentioned earlier, the port is clearly open to connections as I can telnet to port 7100. TCP is enabled on the RedHat machine's XFS config file. Can anyone offer any tips? Many thanks, Louis -- Your mouse has moved. Your computer must be restarted for these changes to take effect. R)eboot (C)ancel --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jmaton@viztek.net Thu Sep 6 22:35:27 2001 From: jmaton@viztek.net (Jonathan Maton) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 21:35:27 +0000 Subject: Alerting user to a vnc connection (was "Hiding icon") References: <03754DDCC645D311AA6700805F854E4304A872D5@lotus.ntu.ac.uk> Message-ID: <002501c1370e$42827400$6c886f0c@tupac> Stuart, I have compiled a version that will flash a message indicating a successful vnc connection has been made. The popup dialog lasts for 8 seconds (my lucky number I guess) during which time the vnc connection is halted (remote viewer cannot yet see desktop.) * user on the server has the opportunity to click "REJECT" to deny the connection * user on the server has the opportunity to click "OK" to accept the connection * user on the server has the opportunity to hit the Esc key to accept the connection * if the dialog times out, the connection goes through (I default to allowing the connection because we usually are vnc'ing into an unmanned workstation.) If you are familiar with coding and have access to Visual Studio I will send you the two new files (a .ccp and a header), and the dialog resource if I can figure out how to do that. Otherwise I can zip up the whole source (with my changes) or just send you the binary "WinVNC-alert.exe". ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loughran, Stuart" To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 9:35 AM Subject: RE: Hiding icon > Our clients may not notice if their machine had disappeared never mind an > icon that blinks. > For my purposes, I don't even want to enter into the violation argument and > I want to give my users as much notice as possible that I'm taking over > their machine or watching what they do in a particular > instance. > > Stu > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Maton [mailto:jmaton@viztek.net] > Sent: 06 September 2001 14:05 > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: Hiding icon > > Ah - now this is a good question. Currently the tray icon reverses colors, > but if your resolution is very large (say 1024x768 or higher) the icon is so > small anyway that one is likely not to notice the change. > > For our purposes we were considering making the icon blink between normal > and reversed colors for the entire duration that a viewer is connected. We > considered a pop-up message, but that is a bit too intrusive, especially if > your clients are radiologists trying to read exams. I will probably end up > doing the icon-flash thing, if anyone is interested in the change I will > post the relevant lines of code to enable the effect. > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Jonathan Maton, Development Team > Viztek, Inc. > > makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software > (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Loughran, Stuart" > To: > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 6:47 AM > Subject: RE: Hiding icon > > > > On the other hand, is there a way of the client being notified that their > > machine is being viewed by way of a pop up message or other? > > > > Stu > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jonathan Maton [mailto:jmaton@viztek.net] > > Sent: 05 September 2001 21:52 > > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > Subject: Re: Hiding icon > > > > > > "Hiding the tray icon" > > > > This is sort of a "taboo" issue... mainly because there seems to be no > > legitimate reason to hide the server's icon. The only reason I can think > of > > is to facilitate spying on someone, which I believe the good folks at AT&T > > Research are not interested in advertising, especially after the rather > > nasty article in Time magazine that proclaimed vnc to be nothing more than > > "spyware." > > > > Having said that... vnc is open source. You can download the source code > > and make whatever changes you want. But please don't be offended if no > one > > on the list wishes to help you do it. We'd all hate to see the vnc > project > > go closed source (or worse, be discontinued) due to any more bad press, > and > > the "feature" you're after is the heart of it. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Jonathan Maton, Development Team > > Viztek, Inc. > > > > makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software > > (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Joe Sarinana" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:11 PM > > Subject: Hiding icon > > > > > > > I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to > > it > > > from a viewer ? > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Joe Sarinana > > > Network and CAD System Manager. > > > KSN INC. www.ksninc.com > > > 209-946-0268 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From DavidB@mail.interclean.com Thu Sep 6 22:38:58 2001 From: DavidB@mail.interclean.com (David Brodbeck) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 21:38:58 +0000 Subject: Stopping Service on Win95/98, Query Settings ? Message-ID: There's no such thing as a "service" under Win95/98...vnc is just running as an ordinary program. You could kill it with the task manager. Alternatively, I remember seeing 'ps' and 'kill' commands for Windows 95 somewhere; if you can find those, they should work. -----Original Message----- From: Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com [mailto:Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com] Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 2:45 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Stopping Service on Win95/98, Query Settings ? Another question. Scenario: After having created an .exe package, i tested it on a Win2K machine and it installed with the correct registry settings and uninstalled correctly. I tested it on a Win98 PC and it too installed correctly and started VNC as a service, but the uninstall failed. Win95/98 do not recognize the command "net stop winvnc". I could use the -kill command instead, but i disabled the shutdown and the properties. I am able to manually remove the files and .reg settings etc. Q: The questino still remains, how to stop the service on Win95/98 once its started ? Scenario: When connecting to a users PC, I want the user to be able to click either accept or reject connection. Q: Which settings do i change. QuerySetting,QueryTimeout. Currently QuerySetting is on 2. Thanks Mark Johnson mark_johnson@urscorp.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From zmargareten@CJH.org Thu Sep 6 23:51:38 2001 From: zmargareten@CJH.org (Zalman Margareten) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 22:51:38 +0000 Subject: How to Set AllowLoopback? Message-ID: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126AB@CFJH> Yes, you would need to create it. Just run regedit and browse out to [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3]. In the right side of the screen right click and create a dword key called "AllowLoopback" with a value of 1. Restart the service and it will work. Be aware when you use loopback that the monitor will indeed go into a loop and depending on the resources of your computer it might crash your system because of this. -----Original Message----- From: James Pifer [mailto:jamesvnclist@tnjinfl.com] Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 1:50 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: How to Set AllowLoopback? Here's the key that I have exported from Windows 2000. [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3] "AllowLoopback"=dword:00000001 James ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Stockment" To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 1:30 PM Subject: How to Set AllowLoopback? > Howdy, > > I have been trying to set VNC to AllowLoopback. I read the directions on the > website. However, I can't find an AllowLoopback entry anywhere in the Windows > registry. Do I have to create a new key? If so, how do I do this? (I run Win98 > SE.) > > Thanks, > Andrew :-) > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From rudi.de.vos@skynet.be Fri Sep 7 00:37:50 2001 From: rudi.de.vos@skynet.be (De Vos Rudi) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 23:37:50 +0000 Subject: Beta video driver with download link Message-ID: <3B97FBC7.B4A642F8@skynet.be> Sorry, forgot link in last message.. http://services.simac.be/vnc/single/source/ betavideodriver.zip This is only for people who are developping, you need to recompiler you vncserver. There are still screen-update-bugs in it, but the hookdll and region scanner is disabled. files I changed in the winvnc tree included. Rudi --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ryan@savvynet.com Fri Sep 7 00:59:57 2001 From: ryan@savvynet.com (Ryan Hayle) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 23:59:57 +0000 Subject: [patch] option for vncserver to allow more traditional exitin g of X Message-ID: <61B727E7D104D311A1A0005004180F162D1230@EXCHANGE> Funny, I was -just- trying to figure out what was wrong with VNC that it -wasn't- doing this. Out of curiosity, what could possibly be the point of not exiting when the Xsession terminates like any normal X server? I can't think of any possible reason for this. Anyways, this seems a better solution than mine, which was to put 'vncserver -kill :1' at the end of my .Xsession file, and always start the server on display 1! I hope this functionality gets integrated into the main VNC source tree! Ryan > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard L. Hamilton [mailto:rlhamil@mindwarp.smart.net] > Sent: Tuesday, 04 September, 2001 08:31 > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: [patch] option for vncserver to allow more > traditional exiting > of X > > > The attached patch adds a -wait option to the (Unix) vncserver > script, for those who wish exit from twm, CDE logout, etc. to > cause Xvnc to be terminated (and its client(s), too). The vncserver > script itself also does not exit until then if the -wait > option is used. > > For this to work, the $HOME/.vnc/xstartup script _must_ have > as its last line whatever invokes the window manager (or whatever) > that one will exit eventually, _without_ a terminating > ampersand ("&"). > That is, the command to wait on must not be backgrounded. > > If one doesn't already have a $HOME/.vnc/xstartup file, the changes > will also cause the twm line to have (without -wait) or not > have (with -wait) > the terminating ampersand put in. Of course, it could be left off and > it probably wouldn't matter anyway, since (without -wait) the > command in > vncserver that invokes $HOME/.vnc/xstartup does so in background. > > Since I'm presently using CDE, instead of "twm", my xstartup file ends > with: > > test -x /etc/dt/config/Xsetup || /usr/dt/config/Xsetup > /usr/dt/bin/Xsession > > which seems to be taking care of everything except the definitions of > the copy/paste keys. In particular, logging out of CDE > causes dtsession > to terminate, which in turn causes the Xsession script to > exit, and with > the new -wait option, causes Xvnc to be killed. Without -wait (or > in the original), the first logout attempt would go to the > correct dtsession, > but killing it wouldn't affect the server or the CDE window manager. > Subsequent attempts would (when using the viewer while > sitting at a local > CDE desktop) communicate with another instance of dtsession > altogether; > presumably if it weren't running, the exit attempt would fail with no > ToolTalk client listening for the corresponding message. > > Anyway, anyone else think this -wait option is useful? AFAIK, without > using it, it doesn't break any kind of compatibility. And with it, > one can get the sort of behavior that I (and others I stumbled across > searching Usenet prior to finding this mailing list) seem to want. > > If it is useful, someone more comfortable with perl than I am might > wish to pretty it up a bit; my concern was with getting the desired > effect with the least amount of changes, not with Good Perl Scripting > Practices. > > -- > ftp> get |fortune > 377 I/O error: smart remark generator failed > > Bogonics: the primary language inside the Beltway > > mailto:rlhamil@mindwarp.smart.net http://www.smart.net/~rlhamil > *** vncserver.orig Tue Sep 4 08:38:53 2001 > --- vncserver Tue Sep 4 08:40:34 2001 > *************** > *** 39,51 **** > $vncUserDir = "$ENV{HOME}/.vnc"; > $xauthorityFile = "$ENV{HOME}/.Xauthority"; > > - $defaultXStartup > - = ("#!/bin/sh\n\n". > - "xrdb \$HOME/.Xresources\n". > - "xsetroot -solid grey\n". > - "xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title > \"\$VNCDESKTOP Desktop\" &\n". > - "twm &\n"); > - > chop($host = `uname -n`); > > > --- 39,44 ---- > *************** > *** 52,63 **** > # Check command line options > > > &ParseOptions("-geometry",1,"-depth",1,"-pixelformat",1,"-name > ",1,"-kill",1, > ! "-help",0,"-h",0,"--help",0); > > &Usage() if ($opt{'-help'} || $opt{'-h'} || $opt{'--help'}); > > &Kill() if ($opt{'-kill'}); > > # Uncomment this line if you want default geometry, depth > and pixelformat > # to match the current X display: > # &GetXDisplayDefaults(); > --- 45,70 ---- > # Check command line options > > > &ParseOptions("-geometry",1,"-depth",1,"-pixelformat",1,"-name > ",1,"-kill",1, > ! "-help",0,"-h",0,"--help",0,"-wait",0); > > &Usage() if ($opt{'-help'} || $opt{'-h'} || $opt{'--help'}); > > &Kill() if ($opt{'-kill'}); > > + if ($opt{'-wait'}) { > + $background=''; > + } > + else { > + $background='&'; > + } > + > + $defaultXStartup > + = ("#!/bin/sh\n\n". > + "xrdb \$HOME/.Xresources\n". > + "xsetroot -solid grey\n". > + "xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title > \"\$VNCDESKTOP Desktop\" &\n". > + "twm $background\n"); > + > # Uncomment this line if you want default geometry, depth > and pixelformat > # to match the current X display: > # &GetXDisplayDefaults(); > *************** > *** 191,197 **** > } > $ENV{VNCDESKTOP}= $desktopName; > > ! system("$vncUserDir/xstartup >> " . > "edString($desktopLog) . " 2>&1 &"); > > exit; > > --- 198,207 ---- > } > $ENV{VNCDESKTOP}= $desktopName; > > ! system("$vncUserDir/xstartup >> " . > "edString($desktopLog) . " 2>&1 $background"); > ! if ($opt{'-wait'}) { > ! system("vncserver -kill :$displayNumber"); > ! } > > exit; > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From lindac65@earthlink.net Fri Sep 7 01:25:35 2001 From: lindac65@earthlink.net (Linda Worthington) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 00:25:35 +0000 Subject: VNC from Server to workstations Message-ID: <001c01c1372a$893ec170$676412ac@LINDA500> Is there any way to push VNC 3.3.3 out to all workstations from a server? The workstations are 95/98/W2K. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Fri Sep 7 01:29:19 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 00:29:19 +0000 Subject: Stopping Service on Win95/98, Query Settings ? Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04D9D@QMAIL> answer 1: search your 95/98 registry for the key "runservice" or "RunService". That's where 95/98 looks for any program to run as a service (hence the name ;) With shutdown disabled, however, the only other alternative I can think of is to remove that registry key and reboot. Answer 2: search the winvnc documentation for the "AuthHosts" reg. key. Hint: "-:?" QuerySetting defaults to 2, so that should be fine. -----Original Message----- From: Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com [mailto:Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com] Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 2:45 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Stopping Service on Win95/98, Query Settings ? Another question. Scenario: After having created an .exe package, i tested it on a Win2K machine and it installed with the correct registry settings and uninstalled correctly. I tested it on a Win98 PC and it too installed correctly and started VNC as a service, but the uninstall failed. Win95/98 do not recognize the command "net stop winvnc". I could use the -kill command instead, but i disabled the shutdown and the properties. I am able to manually remove the files and .reg settings etc. Q: The questino still remains, how to stop the service on Win95/98 once its started ? Scenario: When connecting to a users PC, I want the user to be able to click either accept or reject connection. Q: Which settings do i change. QuerySetting,QueryTimeout. Currently QuerySetting is on 2. Thanks Mark Johnson mark_johnson@urscorp.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From darryl@the-ackermans.net Fri Sep 7 01:58:03 2001 From: darryl@the-ackermans.net (Darryl Ackerman) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 00:58:03 +0000 Subject: Changing WinVNC service port References: Message-ID: <001a01c1372f$33a0c790$0b00a8c0@sfc.net> Well I figured it out. 5800 is for the web the first connection that is, the second will connect to 5801 and so on, the same is for the viewer. At least that's what I think they're talking about. Anyway to change the port go onto the registry HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\Default, then change the AutoSelectPort from 1 to 0. Next add a new REG_DWORD value named PortNumber and add the port number you want to use there... be sure to enter it in decimal. when done stop and restart the VNC Server service. I did it and it works for the viewer only, the web will no longer function... this is by design. Good luck. Darryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de" To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 4:31 AM Subject: RE: Changing WinVNC service port > May I add to this the question as to which ports are actually used for what: > (i) 5900 by commander/viewer? > (ii) 5800 over the browser ? > and how can they be changed (see below) > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Darryl Ackerman > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 2:41 AM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Changing WinVNC service port > > > Does anyone know how to change the port that the server listens on? > > Thanks, > Darryl > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au Fri Sep 7 06:11:37 2001 From: itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au (Ellen Reisinger) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 05:11:37 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon: Code to change the icon to blinking when Message-ID: <01E09B44.B0189F80.itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au> I would be very keen to get this code, particularly before I look at implementing vnc across my site. Is it difficult to edit the code? **** I had a look at what my clients would see when i logged on, and the person I was using as a test case, said she was unable to tell easily if i logged on or not (other than me mucking around with her mouse pointer and launching applications:). She was impressed and could see the benefit, but she indicated she didn't feel very comfortable by the process. -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Maton [SMTP:jmaton@viztek.net] Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2001 10:35 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Hiding icon Ah - now this is a good question. Currently the tray icon reverses colors, but if your resolution is very large (say 1024x768 or higher) the icon is so small anyway that one is likely not to notice the change. For our purposes we were considering making the icon blink between normal and reversed colors for the entire duration that a viewer is connected. We considered a pop-up message, but that is a bit too intrusive, especially if your clients are radiologists trying to read exams. I will probably end up doing the icon-flash thing, if anyone is interested in the change I will post the relevant lines of code to enable the effect. ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loughran, Stuart" To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 6:47 AM Subject: RE: Hiding icon > On the other hand, is there a way of the client being notified that their > machine is being viewed by way of a pop up message or other? > > Stu > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Maton [mailto:jmaton@viztek.net] > Sent: 05 September 2001 21:52 > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: Hiding icon > > > "Hiding the tray icon" > > This is sort of a "taboo" issue... mainly because there seems to be no > legitimate reason to hide the server's icon. The only reason I can think of > is to facilitate spying on someone, which I believe the good folks at AT&T > Research are not interested in advertising, especially after the rather > nasty article in Time magazine that proclaimed vnc to be nothing more than > "spyware." > > Having said that... vnc is open source. You can download the source code > and make whatever changes you want. But please don't be offended if no one > on the list wishes to help you do it. We'd all hate to see the vnc project > go closed source (or worse, be discontinued) due to any more bad press, and > the "feature" you're after is the heart of it. > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Jonathan Maton, Development Team > Viztek, Inc. > > makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software > (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) > ------------------------------------------------------ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Sarinana" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:11 PM > Subject: Hiding icon > > > > I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to > it > > from a viewer ? > > > > _____ > > > > Joe Sarinana > > Network and CAD System Manager. > > KSN INC. www.ksninc.com > > 209-946-0268 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au Fri Sep 7 06:14:35 2001 From: itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au (Ellen Reisinger) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 05:14:35 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon Message-ID: <01E09B45.6F9CA360.itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au> LOL I agree stu about the missing equipment, you don't happen to work in a high school :) And I am on the same path, but mine is because i really don't want to know what they're getting up to *grin* in fact even hate thinking of what my users could possible be doing. I just want to get in there fix the problem and get out :) -----Original Message----- From: Loughran, Stuart [SMTP:stuart.loughran@ntu.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2001 11:05 PM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: Hiding icon Our clients may not notice if their machine had disappeared never mind an icon that blinks. For my purposes, I don't even want to enter into the violation argument and I want to give my users as much notice as possible that I'm taking over their machine or watching what they do in a particular instance. Stu -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Maton [mailto:jmaton@viztek.net] Sent: 06 September 2001 14:05 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Hiding icon Ah - now this is a good question. Currently the tray icon reverses colors, but if your resolution is very large (say 1024x768 or higher) the icon is so small anyway that one is likely not to notice the change. For our purposes we were considering making the icon blink between normal and reversed colors for the entire duration that a viewer is connected. We considered a pop-up message, but that is a bit too intrusive, especially if your clients are radiologists trying to read exams. I will probably end up doing the icon-flash thing, if anyone is interested in the change I will post the relevant lines of code to enable the effect. ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loughran, Stuart" To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 6:47 AM Subject: RE: Hiding icon > On the other hand, is there a way of the client being notified that their > machine is being viewed by way of a pop up message or other? > > Stu > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Maton [mailto:jmaton@viztek.net] > Sent: 05 September 2001 21:52 > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: Hiding icon > > > "Hiding the tray icon" > > This is sort of a "taboo" issue... mainly because there seems to be no > legitimate reason to hide the server's icon. The only reason I can think of > is to facilitate spying on someone, which I believe the good folks at AT&T > Research are not interested in advertising, especially after the rather > nasty article in Time magazine that proclaimed vnc to be nothing more than > "spyware." > > Having said that... vnc is open source. You can download the source code > and make whatever changes you want. But please don't be offended if no one > on the list wishes to help you do it. We'd all hate to see the vnc project > go closed source (or worse, be discontinued) due to any more bad press, and > the "feature" you're after is the heart of it. > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Jonathan Maton, Development Team > Viztek, Inc. > > makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software > (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) > ------------------------------------------------------ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Sarinana" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:11 PM > Subject: Hiding icon > > > > I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to > it > > from a viewer ? > > > > _____ > > > > Joe Sarinana > > Network and CAD System Manager. > > KSN INC. www.ksninc.com > > 209-946-0268 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au Fri Sep 7 06:15:02 2001 From: itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au (Ellen Reisinger) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 05:15:02 +0000 Subject: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) Message-ID: <01E09B45.8F76EF60.itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au> WOW! this only gets better. -----Original Message----- From: Lorenzo Manuel [SMTP:Manuel.Lorenzo@HCAHealthcare.com] Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2001 11:58 PM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) We use dhcp also and we can log into the systems by using their computer name. -----Original Message----- From: Ellen Reisinger [mailto:itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2029 03:18 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: RE: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) Wow! This is great! We currently have no systems in place to manage our 300 odd computers and 5 servers. We have just started getting into VNC. I can't wait to have winVnc installed on all the workstations! With VNC Commander - Is there a limit to the number of computers you can have listed? What limit is there to the number of concurrent connections? Guess this is all in the documentation. Question about winVNC ... we use dhcp, is there a way that i can log into systems without having to know their ip address, for example using the adapter address (as this info is readily available on my asset db)? Ellen -----Original Message----- From: Tony Caduto [SMTP:tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com] Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2001 11:12 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Cc: itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au Subject: Re: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) You can find out about VNC Commander at my website. http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ellen Reisinger" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2029 7:24 PM Subject: VNC Commander - what is it? (newbie) > I have searched the http://www.uk.research.att.com/cgi-bin/htsearch to try > and find out what vnc commander is. but there were no hits for "vnc > commander". can someone please point me in the right driection to read what > it is (or for that matter more on vnc). > > Cheers, > > Ellen > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Fri Sep 7 06:23:50 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 05:23:50 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander Available References: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126AB@CFJH> Message-ID: <003701c13755$dab509d0$0201a8c0@athlon1000> There is a new updated version of VNC Commander Available. This release adds the following: Set Codec IE Hextile, CopyRect, etc Checkbox to share connection Checkbox for View only option, this disable keyboard and mouse input Checkbox for Request Frames Checkbox for Progressive Drawing A new connection now defaults to Hextile with Request Frames All options are per connection. You can get it here: http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com Enjoy Tony Caduto PS Would anyone be interested in a NT/9x service that you could install with your VNC server that could provide file transfer/System Info capabilities ? It would be integrated in with the VNC Commander Viewer form and could also be activated from the icon. This would be a seperate service that would complement the VNC server. I have the code already created for another project and it is created with INDY http://www.nevrona.com/indy --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From LKTURNE@westvaco.com Fri Sep 7 06:32:09 2001 From: LKTURNE@westvaco.com (Larry K. Turner) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 05:32:09 +0000 Subject: VNC Server Fails Message-ID: I get the following error when I restart my NT4 machine. The VNC Server service failed to start due to the following error: Access is denied. Any advice would be appreciated. Larry --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Fri Sep 7 06:49:08 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 05:49:08 +0000 Subject: VNC Server Fails References: Message-ID: <00b701c13759$39daeb70$0201a8c0@athlon1000> Check the account that the service is running under. Tony Caduto --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au Fri Sep 7 06:49:35 2001 From: itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au (Ellen Reisinger) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 05:49:35 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander Available Message-ID: <01E09B4A.88186460.itadmin@sanderson.nt.edu.au> It sounds very interesting... retrieving system info would be of interest (and more importantly of use) to me. (i am totally spun out by this product and the vnc community. thanks for all your info to my questions, now i will take my obviously-unworldly soul back to my souless work, and look forward to reading the list tomorrow. Thanks again for the info and help.) Ellen -----Original Message----- From: Tony Caduto [SMTP:tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com] Sent: Friday, 7 September 2001 2:01 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: New Version of VNC Commander Available There is a new updated version of VNC Commander Available. This release adds the following: Set Codec IE Hextile, CopyRect, etc Checkbox to share connection Checkbox for View only option, this disable keyboard and mouse input Checkbox for Request Frames Checkbox for Progressive Drawing A new connection now defaults to Hextile with Request Frames All options are per connection. You can get it here: http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com Enjoy Tony Caduto PS Would anyone be interested in a NT/9x service that you could install with your VNC server that could provide file transfer/System Info capabilities ? It would be integrated in with the VNC Commander Viewer form and could also be activated from the icon. This would be a seperate service that would complement the VNC server. I have the code already created for another project and it is created with INDY http://www.nevrona.com/indy --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From dwyllie@s-un.co.uk Fri Sep 7 09:08:32 2001 From: dwyllie@s-un.co.uk (Daniel Wyllie) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 08:08:32 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available In-Reply-To: <003b01c136ed$f4fc9eb0$84061fac@tr3789> Message-ID: <001001c1376a$b679c820$1fab0180@systemsx> It sounds like there is no "Display Name" set for the connections. I've tried it on my own PC. I was able to create a new connection, and deleted the "Display Name" which had taken the value entered within the "Server Address" input box. Zalman, can you check your connections by opening "Edit Connection" and check if there is anything in the "Display Name" box? Post back to the mailing list how you get on! Regards, Dan -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Tony Caduto Sent: 06 September 2001 17:07 PM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: New Version of VNC Commander available I don't know what to tell you, I developed in on Win200 Pro. I see captions under my icons, Maybe it has something to do with your fonts? Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zalman Margareten" To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 10:21 AM Subject: RE: New Version of VNC Commander available > I reinstalled VNC Commander and still have the same problem. FYI we are > running win2000 pro. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Caduto [mailto:tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:44 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: New Version of VNC Commander available > > > You must be missing something, > In the large icon mode each icon has a caption that describes the > connection. > > Tony Caduto > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zalman Margareten" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:35 PM > Subject: RE: New Version of VNC Commander available > > > > Great product! thanks > > > > Am I missing something? In the list of computers I only see icons with no > > description of which computers they are. > > Oh I just noticed, when in the "view details" mode it will list server > name. > > I think that name should appear as default with all views since all icons > > look the same and there is no way of knowing which computer it is. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Fri Sep 7 09:12:40 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 08:12:40 +0000 Subject: java.net:NoRoute to HostException:Operation Timed out Message-ID: I'v got to cater for two setups involving SDSL with Lucent CellPipes which connect two lans and provide these lans with access general access to the internet. Both Pipes - according to what the two different providers confirm upon questionning - have been setup in there internal routing tables so that ports 5800 and 5900 are NATed to the internal IP adresses were vnc server is running as a service. Everything works properly within the lans. However in setup 1: if I run the Browser/java interface I'm getting the login screen, can type the password, but nothing happens (not even "sorry" except that after a few seconds I receive "javanet.NoRoute to hostException: Operation timed out." which appears not to be the case as I get the login (?!). when running trhough the viewer, after a few seconds I get "Failed to connect to server" setup2: I'm not getting anything at all - which tells me that the set-up is not correct has anybody got a hint to resolve setup 1 - which might then after correction of setup 2 help to make this run as well Dietmar [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gbendotti@agric.wa.gov.au Fri Sep 7 10:24:52 2001 From: gbendotti@agric.wa.gov.au (Bendotti, Gerard) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 09:24:52 +0000 Subject: Sceen Colours. Message-ID: <2BCD8A1EC385D311AE9B00062950091901F00A54@agspsrv19.agric.wa .gov.au> Someone recently advised a solid blue background for the desktop, I understand the benefits of solid colour, but why blue? Gerard Bendotti --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From BolenderOlivierA. Fri Sep 7 10:24:54 2001 From: BolenderOlivierA. (BolenderOlivierA.) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 09:24:54 +0000 Subject: Wallpaper Message-ID: <01090709302706.02366@boa> Hello, At each time i'm connect to a remote system (windows 9x/NT/2K), the wallpaper is always removed, what is the procedure to keep the remote wallpaper when I etablish a connection with VncViewer (under linux or Windows), what is the Key(s) to put in the register base of windows. Boa. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From AER@topdanmark.dk Fri Sep 7 10:33:47 2001 From: AER@topdanmark.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q? Rasmus_Emil_M=F8ller ?=) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 09:33:47 +0000 Subject: Hiding icon: Code to change the icon to blinking when Message-ID: How about changing the mouse pointer on the VNC server, when a session is active? Changing the mouse pointer is as easy as the wallpaper juggling etc. that is now implemented as standard. I tried with a BIG FAT RED mouse pointer; it's something that the end user is bound to notice (perhaps one could even make it an "VNC-animated" mouse pointer). And, contrary to the blinking tray icon, it does not create additional RFB traffic, and it is somewhat unobtrusive. Another possibility is to change temporarily the default colors for the window title bars, or to make the windows borders change size or color. ... just trying to be imaginative here ... Cordiali saluti Rasmus E. Mxller Topdanmark +-------------------------------------+ | Please disregard any information | | that is incorrect, illegitimate, | | inaccurate or simply misspelled. | | | | We take no responsibility for the | | inept postings of our employees. ;>)| +-------------------------------------+ - ----- Original Message ----- Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2029 13:58:53 +0930 From: Ellen Reisinger Subject: RE: Hiding icon LOL I agree stu about the missing equipment, you don't happen to work in a high school :) And I am on the same path, but mine is because i really don't want to know what they're getting up to *grin* in fact even hate thinking of what my users could possible be doing. I just want to get in there fix the problem and get out :) - -----Original Message----- From: Loughran, Stuart [SMTP:stuart.loughran@ntu.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2001 11:05 PM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: RE: Hiding icon Our clients may not notice if their machine had disappeared never mind an icon that blinks. For my purposes, I don't even want to enter into the violation argument and I want to give my users as much notice as possible that I'm taking over their machine or watching what they do in a particular instance. Stu - -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Maton [mailto:jmaton@viztek.net] Sent: 06 September 2001 14:05 To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Re: Hiding icon Ah - now this is a good question. Currently the tray icon reverses colors, but if your resolution is very large (say 1024x768 or higher) the icon is so small anyway that one is likely not to notice the change. For our purposes we were considering making the icon blink between normal and reversed colors for the entire duration that a viewer is connected. We considered a pop-up message, but that is a bit too intrusive, especially if your clients are radiologists trying to read exams. I will probably end up doing the icon-flash thing, if anyone is interested in the change I will post the relevant lines of code to enable the effect. - ------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Maton, Development Team Viztek, Inc. makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) - ------------------------------------------------------ - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loughran, Stuart" To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 6:47 AM Subject: RE: Hiding icon > On the other hand, is there a way of the client being notified that their > machine is being viewed by way of a pop up message or other? > > Stu > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Maton [mailto:jmaton@viztek.net] > Sent: 05 September 2001 21:52 > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: Hiding icon > > > "Hiding the tray icon" > > This is sort of a "taboo" issue... mainly because there seems to be no > legitimate reason to hide the server's icon. The only reason I can think of > is to facilitate spying on someone, which I believe the good folks at AT&T > Research are not interested in advertising, especially after the rather > nasty article in Time magazine that proclaimed vnc to be nothing more than > "spyware." > > Having said that... vnc is open source. You can download the source code > and make whatever changes you want. But please don't be offended if no one > on the list wishes to help you do it. We'd all hate to see the vnc project > go closed source (or worse, be discontinued) due to any more bad press, and > the "feature" you're after is the heart of it. > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Jonathan Maton, Development Team > Viztek, Inc. > > makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software > (teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM) > ------------------------------------------------------ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Sarinana" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:11 PM > Subject: Hiding icon > > > > I'm new to VNC, how can I hide the icon on a server and still connect to > it > > from a viewer ? > > > > _____ > > > > Joe Sarinana > > Network and CAD System Manager. > > KSN INC. www.ksninc.com > > 209-946-0268 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From dwyllie@s-un.co.uk Fri Sep 7 10:53:19 2001 From: dwyllie@s-un.co.uk (Daniel Wyllie) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 09:53:19 +0000 Subject: Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <01090709302706.02366@boa> Message-ID: <001101c13779$b2607180$1fab0180@systemsx> Boa, Look to see if you have the "RemoveWallpaper" DWORD within the registry key shown below. it sounds like you have this entry set with a value of "1". So if you want to keep the wallpaper, then set the value to "0" ( without the quotes of course! ). [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3\Default] "RemoveWallpaper"=dword:00000000 The other solution would be to just right click on the "RemoveWallpaper" entry, and just delete it! Regards, Dan -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Bolender Olivier A. Sent: 07 September 2001 08:30 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: Wallpaper Hello, At each time i'm connect to a remote system (windows 9x/NT/2K), the wallpaper is always removed, what is the procedure to keep the remote wallpaper when I etablish a connection with VncViewer (under linux or Windows), what is the Key(s) to put in the register base of windows. Boa. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From richard.harris@nottscc.gov.uk Fri Sep 7 11:07:40 2001 From: richard.harris@nottscc.gov.uk (Richard Harris) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 10:07:40 +0000 Subject: Auto Install VNC on Win2K Domain ? Message-ID: <3B989B08.3446.5395D2C@localhost> Hi, > I am trying to push VNC to my workstations with my current registry > settings. I think there are 2 or 3 possible ways to do this. The main part of installing on Windows is what rigths the user has. If your target machines are Windows 9x / ME, then security isn't a problem. You can use a custom built setup.exe (again on www.darkage.co.uk/vnc/) or make your own batch file to do it. Either will work. If you clients are NT or 2000, then it's a little more complicated. This is as most users don't have the security permissions to create services or mess about with the registry. If you're trying to roll VNC out on them, then go with my fastpush script. I've heard from a few people that MSI works well with W2k. However, I've not heard good about setting the VNC password via a policy. I'd be tempted to keep it simple at go with either of the top two options. On top of all that, if VNC is already installed, and you just want to alter the password, then you *might* be able to stick an updated reg file in the login script and it should work (if the users are able to access the registry. I don't think regedit /s newpass.reg will work on NT though). HTH Rich --------------------------------- Richard Harris Environment IT Tel: 0115 977 4509 --------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From dwyllie@s-un.co.uk Fri Sep 7 12:19:48 2001 From: dwyllie@s-un.co.uk (Daniel Wyllie) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 11:19:48 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander Available In-Reply-To: <003701c13755$dab509d0$0201a8c0@athlon1000> Message-ID: <000001c1377f$fd3fb6b0$1fab0180@systemsx> Tony, When viewing all the connection details. Your new version of VNC Commander shows an option to "Show connection Timer". This appears to be working the wrong way around(?). When i edit a connection and choose to "Hide Connection Timer", the detail listing shows the value of "true" under "Show connection Timer". Should the "Show connection Timer" column not say "Hide" instead of "Show"? :) Sorry to be a pain, Regards, Dan -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Tony Caduto Sent: 07 September 2001 05:31 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: New Version of VNC Commander Available There is a new updated version of VNC Commander Available. This release adds the following: Set Codec IE Hextile, CopyRect, etc Checkbox to share connection Checkbox for View only option, this disable keyboard and mouse input Checkbox for Request Frames Checkbox for Progressive Drawing A new connection now defaults to Hextile with Request Frames All options are per connection. You can get it here: http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com Enjoy Tony Caduto PS Would anyone be interested in a NT/9x service that you could install with your VNC server that could provide file transfer/System Info capabilities ? It would be integrated in with the VNC Commander Viewer form and could also be activated from the icon. This would be a seperate service that would complement the VNC server. I have the code already created for another project and it is created with INDY http://www.nevrona.com/indy --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From rlhamil@mindwarp.smart.net Fri Sep 7 13:03:08 2001 From: rlhamil@mindwarp.smart.net (Richard L. Hamilton) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 12:03:08 +0000 Subject: [patch] option for vncserver to allow more traditional exitin g of X Message-ID: <200109071057.f87Av3N00033@mindwarp.smart.net> >From: Ryan Hayle >To: "'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com'" >Subject: RE: [patch] option for vncserver to allow more traditional exitin g of X >Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 18:03:51 -0500 >X-Loop: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > >Funny, I was -just- trying to figure out what was wrong with VNC that it >-wasn't- doing this. Out of curiosity, what could possibly be the point of >not exiting when the Xsession terminates like any normal X server? I can't >think of any possible reason for this. >Anyways, this seems a better solution than mine, which was to put 'vncserver >-kill :1' at the end of my .Xsession file, and always start the server on >display 1! I hope this functionality gets integrated into the main VNC >source tree! > >Ryan It may reflect typical use. An X server serves one or more people in one place, while a VNC server typically serves just one person that might be moving around. But in the case of Xvnc, it might be used either way. I was looking at it as a way to run old stupid apps that only worked with an 8-bit visual as the default, when I would prefer to run with a 24-bit visual as the default. That meant that I was using vncviewer and vncserver in the same place, and I wanted to be able to exit the VNC "desktop" in a familiar manner rather than by manually running a separate command. So what I did (at least in what it offers, if perhaps not in the details of how I did it) makes sense to me, in that it caters to either sort of use of Xvnc. -- ftp> get |fortune 377 I/O error: smart remark generator failed Bogonics: the primary language inside the Beltway mailto:rlhamil@mindwarp.smart.net http://www.smart.net/~rlhamil --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From stefane_bridy@yahoo.com Fri Sep 7 13:21:24 2001 From: stefane_bridy@yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Stefane=20Bridy?=) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 12:21:24 +0000 Subject: "IdleTimeout" not working on all computers ... why ? Message-ID: <20010907112024.92038.qmail@web11602.mail.yahoo.com> On the intra-network, often people forget about the connection they made, and with the number, it slows down a lot the whole network. Therefore I wanted to set IdleTimeout to 10 minutes in the register. It tried on my NT4 laptop (with the .reg file below) and it works great!! BUT, when I installed the .reg file on other NT4 desktop computers, ... it didn't work. It never terminated the connection! I checked in the register, but the new parameters where there. And when I clicked on the task bar green tray icon, I could see that "Properties" was in grey (disabled), hence obeing the "AllowProperties" option. The machines are service pack 5 with WinVNC 3.3.3 R9, so it should be ok. The only problem I can think of is that on some, VNC is installed as a service ... but shouldn't it work anyway ? Anyone an idea ? Thanx a lot Stifane ============= REGEDIT4 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ORL\WinVNC3] "IdleTimeout"=dword:00000258 "Password"=hex: ... well, hidden :-) [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\Default] "IdleTimeout"=dword:00000258 "Password"=hex: ... well, hidden :-) "AllowProperties"=dword:00000000 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Construye tu pagina personal en Yahoo! GeoCities. !Es facil, rapido y gratis! http://geocities.yahoo.com.mx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith.adeney@printsoft.de Fri Sep 7 13:22:27 2001 From: keith.adeney@printsoft.de (Keith T. Adeney) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 12:22:27 +0000 Subject: hook video driver Message-ID: <009CBF891D1ED511ABEF00A0CC6A63D603AA90@URMEL> Hello everybody, I'm putting this information in the newsgroup, because people keep mailing me directly about Win95/Win98 video driver hooks. There is a method for hooking the video driver under Win95/Win98 called SetDDIHook. SetDDIHook does exist, but Microsoft let it die most probably because it uses 32<-> 16 bit thunking. It is available in Win95 if you install the "MS Accessibility Runtime", it is included out of the box with Win98/98SE. Microsoft documentation (if you can get it) on SetDDIHook is in the "MS Accessibility SDK" (my copy dates Sept 99). I've talked to H. Lee [cyclent@bomun.kaist.ac.kr] quite a bit now, he took my DDIWatch code and developed it further, but says "Although it's working, it makes the system a bit unstable, so still looking at it time to time. (I think win98 itself does not manage resource well. it's the cause of the problem I think)." The following have at least also had a look at my DDIWatch code: Daniel Plakosh [dplakosh@sei.cmu.edu], reiter@nomadics.com, stefanie.ballestra@fnac.net, and Thong Nguyen. If you ask H. Lee nicely he might let you have a copy of his code. He wanted to get it far enough to put it into VNC, so he probably would be grateful for any help or advice. Our company has moved to Win2000 now and is introducing UNIX as a Micro$oft alternative, so Win98/98SE development isn't really on the radar anymore. But VNC works on all the platforms anyway. Thanks for such a great piece of software! Keith > - -----Original Message----- > From: Gianluca Bruni [mailto:gianluca@proximaautomation.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 7:20 PM > To: Rudi De Vos > Subject: R: hook video driver > > > Hi, > thaks for reply. > I apologize I can't help you. I'm a Windows programmer but I have not > tools to develop video drivers (I guess you use something like SDDK or > similar). > Your approach works in WinNT/Win2K. > Do you know how to hook video driver under Win95/Win98? Yes SetDDIHook > > Another strategy could be, as I read in WinVNC FAQ, to hook GDI32.DLL. > What do you think? > Bye > Gianluca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Shaun.Brachmann@kohler.com Fri Sep 7 14:43:28 2001 From: Shaun.Brachmann@kohler.com (Brachmann Shaun) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 13:43:28 +0000 Subject: The icon Message-ID: We have all seen way too many questions regarding the winvnc tray icon. Here is what I use: This utility lets you modify the winvnc.exe to remove the tray icon or any other menus you want to mess with. http://rpi.net.au/~ajohnson/resourcehacker Use this for good, not evil. I strongly suggest you get your boss to sign something before using VNC without a tray icon at your place of work. If not, you may end up with a new job. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From m.lerner@sympatico.ca Fri Sep 7 14:48:01 2001 From: m.lerner@sympatico.ca (Michael Lerner) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 13:48:01 +0000 Subject: Sceen Colours. In-Reply-To: <2BCD8A1EC385D311AE9B00062950091901F00A54@agspsrv19.agric.w a .gov.au> Message-ID: <002901c1379a$d62bf1e0$0100a8c0@server> It can be any solid background. As long as the client can display it. -----Original Message----- From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com] On Behalf Of Bendotti, Gerard Sent: September 7, 2001 4:39 AM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: Sceen Colours. Someone recently advised a solid blue background for the desktop, I understand the benefits of solid colour, but why blue? Gerard Bendotti --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Fri Sep 7 15:04:25 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 14:04:25 +0000 Subject: Sceen Colours. Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04D9E@QMAIL> I don't think it matters. Windows 2000, for example, has a blue background by default. It's the solid colour that's the important part - the point being it's less complicated to draw and thus makes the connection appear "faster". Although, with the jpeg compression built-in to TightVNC, some of the "speed" issues may be mitigated... -----Original Message----- From: Bendotti, Gerard [mailto:gbendotti@agric.wa.gov.au] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 4:39 AM To: 'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com' Subject: Sceen Colours. Someone recently advised a solid blue background for the desktop, I understand the benefits of solid colour, but why blue? Gerard Bendotti --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From rlhamil@mindwarp.smart.net Fri Sep 7 15:13:44 2001 From: rlhamil@mindwarp.smart.net (Richard L. Hamilton) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 14:13:44 +0000 Subject: Running java apps off unix box Message-ID: <200109071310.f87DANN03364@mindwarp.smart.net> >From: David Edward Shapiro >To: "'vnc-list@uk.research.att.com'" >Subject: Running java apps off unix box >Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 10:36:37 -0400 >X-Loop: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > >If I run reflections or hummingbird and start my java app, it works fine, >but if I run it through vnc, it gets errors and crashes. Why would there be >any difference? You need to have an application you're able and permitted to provide a copy of, and instructions for re-creating the problem with it, so that others can re-create it to get any further. You also need to identify the version of Java in question, and probably the version of the VNC server as well. The only app where I've seen the problem so far (HotJava) is not supported under JDKs > 1.1, so I can't determine whether more recent JDK/JRE would have the problem or not. My WAG would be that it's a boundary condition or timing issue (number of requests outstanding or something like that) that only arises with certain AWT calls, and that it's a Java bug rather than a VNC bug (since it's Java that dies rather than the VNC server). But that's a very iffy (and not particularly useful) guess based on entirely too little information. -- ftp> get |fortune 377 I/O error: smart remark generator failed Bogonics: the primary language inside the Beltway mailto:rlhamil@mindwarp.smart.net http://www.smart.net/~rlhamil --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gonzy22@yahoo.com Fri Sep 7 16:12:36 2001 From: gonzy22@yahoo.com (Gonzalo Palma) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 15:12:36 +0000 Subject: VNC Connector References: <200109071310.f87DANN03364@mindwarp.smart.net> Message-ID: <008601c137a6$3d7b8ad0$6101230a@sciarg> I am having this error message... "0.0.1 Is not a valid date and time" when I connect to a remote server. Which date and tome settings should I have? Thank you _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From MMolloy@resortquest.com Fri Sep 7 16:15:06 2001 From: MMolloy@resortquest.com (Michael Molloy) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 15:15:06 +0000 Subject: Selection problem on server desktop with WinVNC Message-ID: <01090709084503.01982@linux> I've got WinVNC 3.3.3 R9 running on Windows 2000. To access it, I've tried both the Linux client (3.3.3 r2 linux 2.0) and a java enabled linux browser. The problem occurs in both the viewer & browser, so it looks to be a server problem. If I select an icon on the bottom of the desktop, it is selected along with every icon above it on the desktop. The only way to select a single icon is to select the icon at the top of the desktop (like the "My Computer" icon). I've had this problem before, rebooted the Win2K machine, and the problem went away. However, it is not going away this time after rebooting. Seached the archives, but I couldn't find anything. Any help is appreciated. Thanks --Michael -- ========================================================== Michael Molloy ResortQuest International Java Developer www.ResortQuest.com 901.762.4076 mmolloy@resortquest.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Fri Sep 7 16:16:38 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 15:16:38 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available References: <001001c1376a$b679c820$1fab0180@systemsx> Message-ID: <000e01c137a7$4cbe2380$84061fac@tr3789> Yes, That could very well be, if you delete the display name, then you will get a icon with no caption. I just don't understant why someone would delete the display name? I guess I need to idiot proof it some more, I will add code that will check if the display name is blank and then put the server address in for the caption when the icon is rendered at form create. Look for it in the next version Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Wyllie" To: Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 2:00 AM Subject: RE: New Version of VNC Commander available > It sounds like there is no "Display Name" set for the connections. > > I've tried it on my own PC. I was able to create a new connection, > and deleted the "Display Name" which had taken the value entered > within the "Server Address" input box. > > Zalman, can you check your connections by opening "Edit Connection" > and check if there is anything in the "Display Name" box? > > Post back to the mailing list how you get on! > > Regards, > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > [mailto:owner-vnc-list@uk.research.att.com]On Behalf Of Tony Caduto > Sent: 06 September 2001 17:07 PM > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > Subject: Re: New Version of VNC Commander available > > > I don't know what to tell you, I developed in on Win200 Pro. > I see captions under my icons, Maybe it has something to do with your fonts? > > Tony Caduto > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zalman Margareten" > To: > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 10:21 AM > Subject: RE: New Version of VNC Commander available > > > > I reinstalled VNC Commander and still have the same problem. FYI we are > > running win2000 pro. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tony Caduto [mailto:tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:44 PM > > To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com > > Subject: Re: New Version of VNC Commander available > > > > > > You must be missing something, > > In the large icon mode each icon has a caption that describes the > > connection. > > > > Tony Caduto > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Zalman Margareten" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:35 PM > > Subject: RE: New Version of VNC Commander available > > > > > > > Great product! thanks > > > > > > Am I missing something? In the list of computers I only see icons with > no > > > description of which computers they are. > > > Oh I just noticed, when in the "view details" mode it will list server > > name. > > > I think that name should appear as default with all views since all > icons > > > look the same and there is no way of knowing which computer it is. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Fri Sep 7 16:42:35 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 15:42:35 +0000 Subject: "javanet.NoRoute to hostException: Operation timed out." Message-ID: I've still got the problem of "javanet.NoRoute to hostException: Operation timed out." after trying to connect from anywhere to a SDSL NAT routed vnc server (5800/5900). The Serverapplet with browser appears put nothing happens after trying to log in. after a few seconds the above message. ising the viewer I get a black screen and after a few seconds I get "failed to connect to server/host" Prior to blaming the provider for not setting up 5900 - does anybody know another reason for this to occur? [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com Fri Sep 7 16:46:40 2001 From: Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com (Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 15:46:40 +0000 Subject: Stopping Service on Win95/98, Query Settings ? Message-ID: Thanks for the replies. After creating an .exe package for Win95/98 and NT/2K, I found that everything would install ok, but would not uninstall on 95/98 only on NT/2K. I found several things out: To uninstall the app on 95/98: winvnc.exe -kill, then winvnc.exe -remove To uninstall the app on NT/2K: net stop winvnc, then winvnc.exe -remove So on the uninstall, it checks for 95/98 and runs the -kill and on NT/2K it runs net stop. Thanks again. Mark ------------------------------------ Original Post: Q: The questino still remains, how to stop the service on Win95/98 once its started ? When connecting to a users PC, I want the user to be able to click either accept or reject connection. Mark Johnson --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From louis@webtedium.com Fri Sep 7 17:02:00 2001 From: louis@webtedium.com (Louis Sabet) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 16:02:00 +0000 Subject: setting fontpath Message-ID: Hi, I'm trying to get VNC to use some Windows Type1 fonts on an OpenBSD box. The Type1 fonts work ok in regular X and also on an XFS server (both RedHat), but when I put them on the OpenBSD box, and enter them in the vncserver script (yes, I am using the correct syntax), the VNC session fails. Is this because: a:) OpenBSD and Linux use differing methods of working out the fonts in a directory b;) I need to run some special command to categorise the fonts in OpenBSD (the fonts.dir and fonts.scale files are already there) c:) You just can't use type1 fonts directly in VNC help! L -- Your mouse has moved. Your computer must be restarted for these changes to take effect. R)eboot (C)ancel --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com Fri Sep 7 17:02:02 2001 From: Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com (Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 16:02:02 +0000 Subject: VNC Commander additional options ? Message-ID: Tony, When connecting via VNC Commander to a users PC, a box pops up with "accept connection from (IP address)". Is it possible to have the box show the name the connection is coming from ? Would this setting be something in Commander or WInVNC ? Thanks, Mark --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de Fri Sep 7 17:35:25 2001 From: Dietmar.Friesch@ISISConsulting.de (Dietmar.Friesch@isisconsulting.de) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 16:35:25 +0000 Subject: helper Message-ID: Could someone tell me what the "helper" really does - I can see no difference using or not using it - except the fact if you don't use it there's no icon [demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com Fri Sep 7 17:45:03 2001 From: tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com (Tony Caduto) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 16:45:03 +0000 Subject: VNC Commander additional options ? References: Message-ID: <003001c137b3$6ec73ff0$84061fac@tr3789> I think that is a setting with the server. I know of no setting on the viewer that would do that. Tony Caduto ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:57 AM Subject: VNC Commander additional options ? > Tony, > > When connecting via VNC Commander to a users PC, a box pops up with "accept > connection from (IP address)". > > Is it possible to have the box show the name the connection is coming from > ? Would this setting be something in Commander or WInVNC ? > > Thanks, > Mark > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list > to majordomo@uk.research.att.com > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From LKTURNE@westvaco.com Fri Sep 7 18:10:04 2001 From: LKTURNE@westvaco.com (Larry K. Turner) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 17:10:04 +0000 Subject: VNC Server Fails Message-ID: Startup Type: Automatic Log On As: System Account Allow Service to interact with Desktop - selected LT >>> tcaduto@amsoftwaredesign.com 09/07/01 12:54AM >>> Check the account that the service is running under. Tony Caduto --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmabbutt@quartetservice.com Fri Sep 7 18:26:28 2001 From: gmabbutt@quartetservice.com (Glenn Mabbutt) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 17:26:28 +0000 Subject: VNC Commander additional options ? Message-ID: <11AAD83F4149D4118C840008C7CF4686D04DA0@QMAIL> This is a Winvnc server option (enabled by the "AuthHosts" reg key). To my knowledge, I don't think the message itself is configurable at present. -----Original Message----- From: Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com [mailto:Mark_Johnson@URSCorp.com] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:58 AM To: vnc-list@uk.research.att.com Subject: VNC Commander additional options ? Tony, When connecting via VNC Commander to a users PC, a box pops up with "accept connection from (IP address)". Is it possible to have the box show the name the connection is coming from ? Would this setting be something in Commander or WInVNC ? Thanks, Mark --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send a message with the line: unsubscribe vnc-list to majordomo@uk.research.att.com See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- From zmargareten@CJH.org Fri Sep 7 18:48:46 2001 From: zmargareten@CJH.org (Zalman Margareten) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 17:48:46 +0000 Subject: New Version of VNC Commander available Message-ID: <2033C9E0A219D511914300508B44C0E51126AF@CFJH> Thanks Dan.. Tony! "I just don't understand why someone would delete the display name?" It actually also happens if you don't fill in a display name to begin with by just skipping the field (w/o getting the curser in) I upgraded to the newest version and its great! One suggestion though, when closing a connection, it might be better to also close the open box. Also, is there any help docs? I get an access violations when trying the screenshot (maybe its still in the development stages, since you don't have shortcut to it either). can you also explain how the "Auto launch" works. I get