GraphOn patent.
Barry Treahy
treahy "at" mmaz.com
Tue, 16 Nov 1999 22:15:41 +0000
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Yes, but it also boils down to a timing issue. Whose concept was developed first...
Barry
Aric Friesen wrote:
> It's my understanding that you can't patent an idea that someone else has already been using...therefore I don't see how we
> could be threatened by this.
>
> In the past I have seen patents thrown out as long as another organization was able to substantiate that they had already put
> that technology into the hands of users publicly.
>
> Aric Friesen
>
> Barry Treahy wrote:
>
> > Ok, this is an interesting read. I guess my questions is if VNC violates these patents and if it'll turn into a problem for
> > us VNC users here in the states...
> >
> > Barry
> >
> > Alan Piszcz 'peesh' wrote:
> >
> > > http://www.newsalert.com/bin/story?StoryId=CoddK0bKbytaYmJm&FQ=Linux&Nav=na-search-&StoryTitle=Linux
> > >
> > > GraphOn Corp. Acquires Technology Patent for Remoting Windows Applications
> > > to UNIX and Linux
> > >
> > > [10]Jump to first matched term
> > >
> > > LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Nov. 16, 1999--GraphOn Corporation
> > > (Nasdaq:GOJO) (www.graphon.com), specializing in thin, server-based
> > > software that instantly web-enables applications today announced it
> > > has acquired a U.S. patent for the remote display of Microsoft Windows
> > > applications on UNIX(R) and Linux(R) desktops with X Windows(R).
> > >
> > > As a result, GraphOn has patent protection and licensing rights for
> > > the deployment of all Windows applications remoted, or displayed, over
> > > a network or any other type of connection to any X Window system. The
> > > patent includes GraphOn's WinBridge(TM) (formerly jBridge) technology
> > > that enables multi-platform access of 32-bit Windows applications over
> > > the Internet. The technology covered by the patent was originally
> > > developed by a team of engineers formerly with Exodus Technology and
> > > hired by GraphOn in May of 1998.
> > >
> > > Linux and UNIX applications cannot run on Windows. GraphOn's patented
> > > technology overcomes this limitation by allowing UNIX and Linux-based
> > > computers and display devices to view and run Windows-based
> > > applications remotely and unchanged.
> > >
> > > "This patent deals with technology that is fundamental to server-based
> > > access of Windows applications from UNIX and Linux desktops. It
> > > provides cross-platform access to business-critical applications by
> > > organizations that may be UNIX or Linux-based, but use Windows
> > > applications, as well," said GraphOn president and CEO, Walt Keller.
> > > "In addition, this acquisition provides an excellent opportunity for
> > > GraphOn to license the patent to independent software vendors and
> > > other businesses."
> > >
> > > Editor's note: GraphOn is exhibiting at COMDEX/Fall '99 all week in
> > > the Microsoft Partner Pavilion booth No. 121 in L5142 and in the Linux
> > > Business Expo in Corel's booth No. 602, and through Thursday at the
> > > media-only Lunch "at" Piero's event at 355 Convention Center Drive.
> > >
> > > About GraphOn
> > >
> > > GraphOn develops and markets thin, server-based software to speed,
> > > centralize and simplify enterprise computing and enable efficient
> > > network deployment of applications to a wide variety of devices and
> > > platforms. GraphOn products will be unified under the Bridges name and
> > > include the components UNIXBridge and LinuxBridge, formerly the
> > > GlobalHost Universal X Server of GO-Global, first thin client X server
> > > for Windows PCs, GO-Joe, the first thin client X server for
> > > Java-enabled desktops (including web browsers), and GO-Between, the
> > > first thin client X server for multi-user NT (such as Microsoft
> > > Terminal Server and Citrix WinFrame). Also being added to Bridges is
> > > WinBridge, formerly codenamed jBridge, which enables deployment of
> > > 32-bit Windows applications over the Internet and is scheduled for
> > > general release late 1999. Fully functional demos of GraphOn's
> > > products are available from the company's web site at
> > > [11]http://www.graphon.com. GraphOn is headquartered in Campbell,
> > > California and has offices in Seattle, Washington, Concord, New
> > > Hampshire, and Reading, UK. Investors can obtain financial and
> > > corporate information at www.sec.gov under GraphOn Corporation's.
> > >
> > > This press release contains statements that are forward looking as
> > > that term is defined by the United States Private Securities
> > > Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements are based on current
> > > expectations that are subject to risks and uncertainties. Actual
> > > results will differ due to factors such as shifts in customer demand,
> > > product shipment schedules, product mix, competitive products and
> > > pricing, technological shifts and other variables. Readers are
> > > referred to GraphOn's most recent reports filed with the Securities
> > > and Exchange Commission.
> > >
> > > Note: GraphOn, Bridges, GO-Joe, GO-Global, GO-Between, and jBridge are
> > > trademarks or registered trademarks of GraphOn Corp.
> > >
> > > CONTACT: GraphOn Corporation
> > > Rusty Keller, 1-800-GRAPHON
> > > rusty.keller "at" graphon.com
> > > [12]http://www.graphon.com
> > > or
> > > Pat Meier Associates
> > > Pat Meier, 415/392-4200
> > > patmeier "at" patmeier.com
> > > [13]http://www.patmeier.com
> > >
> > > [14][bw.gif]
> > >
> > > [15]Smith Barney
> > >
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> > >
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> > > Click here to visit page
> > >
> > > References
> > >
> > > Visible links:
> > > 1. LYNXIMGMAP:http://www.newsalert.com/bin/story?StoryId=CoddK0bKbytaYmJm&FQ=Linux&Nav=na-search-&StoryTitle=Linux#Map1
> > > 2. http://www.newsalert.com/bin/usernews
> > > 3. http://www.newsalert.com/bin/daily
> > > 4. http://www.newsalert.com/bin/qresearch
> > > 5. http://www.newsalert.com/bin/mktg/aboutus.htm
> > > 6. http://ad.doubleclick.net/adi/bw.newsalert.com/;pac=search;kw=;sz=468x60;tile=1;ord=942782906
> > > 7. http://ad.doubleclick.net/jump/bw.newsalert.com/;pac=search;kw=;sz=468x60;tile=1;ord=942782906
> > > 8. http://www.newsalert.com/bin/story?StoryId=CoddK0bKbytaYmJm&Print=1
> > > 9. http://www.newsalert.com/bin/story?StoryId=CoddK0bKbytaYmJm&FQ=Linux&Nav=na-search-&StoryTitle=Linux#moreinfo
> > > 10. http://www.newsalert.com/bin/story?StoryId=CoddK0bKbytaYmJm&FQ=Linux&Nav=na-search-&StoryTitle=Linux#Hilite
> > > 11. http://www.graphon.com/
> > > 12. http://www.graphon.com/
> > > 13. http://www.patmeier.com/
> > > 14. http://www.newsalert.com/bin/mktg/bw.htm
> > > 15. http://ad.doubleclick.net/jump/newsalert.com/sponsor-button/loc3;sz=120x120;ord=942782906
> > > 16. http://www.newsalert.com/bin/digest?Symbol=GOJO
> > > 17. http://ad.doubleclick.net/jump/N879.ameritrade.newsalert/B15706.4;sz=120x60;ord=942782906?
> > > 18. http://ads08.focalink.com/SmartBanner/page?12183.13-942782906
> > > 19. http://www.newsalert.com/bin/digest?Symbol=GOJO
> > > 20. http://www.newsalert.com/bin/search
> > > 21. http://www.newsalert.com/free/redirect?datekbut
> > > 22. http://www.newsalert.com/free/redirect?winvestbut
> > > 23. http://click.avenuea.com/go/newsalert_onvia_ba544_102999_02/direct/01
> > > 24. http://click.avenuea.com/go/newsalert_ecost_ba542_102899aj_02/direct/01
> > > 25. http://ad.doubleclick.net/adi/bw.newsalert.com/;pac=search;kw=;sz=468x60;tile=2;ord=942782906
> > > 26. http://ad.doubleclick.net/jump/bw.newsalert.com/;pac=search;kw=;sz=468x60;tile=2;ord=942782906
> > >
> > > Hidden links:
> > > 27. http://ads05.focalink.com/SmartBanner/page?12183.20-INSERT_TIME_DATE_STAMP_HERE
> > > 28. http://ad.doubleclick.net/jump/newsalert.com/sponsor-button/loc4;sz=120x60;ord=942782906
> > > - ___________.___________________.___________________._______________________
> > > - < Al Piszcz | apiszcz "at" mitre.org | MITRE Corporation | 703.883.7124/3308 FAX >
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Yes, but it also boils down to a timing issue. Whose concept was
developed first...
<p>Barry
<p>Aric Friesen wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>It's my understanding that you can't patent an idea
that someone else has already been using...therefore I don't see how we
<br>could be threatened by this.
<p>In the past I have seen patents thrown out as long as another organization
was able to substantiate that they had already put
<br>that technology into the hands of users publicly.
<p>Aric Friesen
<p>Barry Treahy wrote:
<p>> Ok, this is an interesting read. I guess my questions is if
VNC violates these patents and if it'll turn into a problem for
<br>> us VNC users here in the states...
<br>>
<br>> Barry
<br>>
<br>> Alan Piszcz 'peesh' wrote:
<br>>
<br>> > <a href="http://www.newsalert.com/bin/story?StoryId=CoddK0bKbytaYmJm&FQ=Linux&Nav=na-search-&StoryTitle=Linux">http://www.newsalert.com/bin/story?StoryId=CoddK0bKbytaYmJm&FQ=Linux&Nav=na-search-&StoryTitle=Linux</a>
<br>> >
<br>> > GraphOn Corp. Acquires Technology Patent for Remoting Windows Applications
<br>> > to UNIX and Linux
<br>> >
<br>> > [10]Jump to first matched term
<br>> >
<br>> > LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Nov. 16, 1999--GraphOn
Corporation
<br>> > (Nasdaq:GOJO) (www.graphon.com), specializing
in thin, server-based
<br>> > software that instantly web-enables applications
today announced it
<br>> > has acquired a U.S. patent for the remote display
of Microsoft Windows
<br>> > applications on UNIX(R) and Linux(R) desktops
with X Windows(R).
<br>> >
<br>> > As a result, GraphOn has patent protection and
licensing rights for
<br>> > the deployment of all Windows applications remoted,
or displayed, over
<br>> > a network or any other type of connection to
any X Window system. The
<br>> > patent includes GraphOn's WinBridge(TM) (formerly
jBridge) technology
<br>> > that enables multi-platform access of 32-bit
Windows applications over
<br>> > the Internet. The technology covered by the patent
was originally
<br>> > developed by a team of engineers formerly with
Exodus Technology and
<br>> > hired by GraphOn in May of 1998.
<br>> >
<br>> > Linux and UNIX applications cannot run on Windows.
GraphOn's patented
<br>> > technology overcomes this limitation by allowing
UNIX and Linux-based
<br>> > computers and display devices to view and run
Windows-based
<br>> > applications remotely and unchanged.
<br>> >
<br>> > "This patent deals with technology that is fundamental
to server-based
<br>> > access of Windows applications from UNIX and
Linux desktops. It
<br>> > provides cross-platform access to business-critical
applications by
<br>> > organizations that may be UNIX or Linux-based,
but use Windows
<br>> > applications, as well," said GraphOn president
and CEO, Walt Keller.
<br>> > "In addition, this acquisition provides an excellent
opportunity for
<br>> > GraphOn to license the patent to independent
software vendors and
<br>> > other businesses."
<br>> >
<br>> > Editor's note: GraphOn is exhibiting at COMDEX/Fall
'99 all week in
<br>> > the Microsoft Partner Pavilion booth No. 121
in L5142 and in the Linux
<br>> > Business Expo in Corel's booth No. 602, and through
Thursday at the
<br>> > media-only Lunch "at" Piero's event at 355 Convention
Center Drive.
<br>> >
<br>> > About GraphOn
<br>> >
<br>> > GraphOn develops and markets thin, server-based
software to speed,
<br>> > centralize and simplify enterprise computing
and enable efficient
<br>> > network deployment of applications to a wide
variety of devices and
<br>> > platforms. GraphOn products will be unified under
the Bridges name and
<br>> > include the components UNIXBridge and LinuxBridge,
formerly the
<br>> > GlobalHost Universal X Server of GO-Global, first
thin client X server
<br>> > for Windows PCs, GO-Joe, the first thin client
X server for
<br>> > Java-enabled desktops (including web browsers),
and GO-Between, the
<br>> > first thin client X server for multi-user NT
(such as Microsoft
<br>> > Terminal Server and Citrix WinFrame). Also being
added to Bridges is
<br>> > WinBridge, formerly codenamed jBridge, which
enables deployment of
<br>> > 32-bit Windows applications over the Internet
and is scheduled for
<br>> > general release late 1999. Fully functional demos
of GraphOn's
<br>> > products are available from the company's web
site at
<br>> > [11]<a href="http://www.graphon.com">http://www.graphon.com</a>.
GraphOn is headquartered in Campbell,
<br>> > California and has offices in Seattle, Washington,
Concord, New
<br>> > Hampshire, and Reading, UK. Investors can obtain
financial and
<br>> > corporate information at www.sec.gov under GraphOn
Corporation's.
<br>> >
<br>> > This press release contains statements that are
forward looking as
<br>> > that term is defined by the United States Private
Securities
<br>> > Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements
are based on current
<br>> > expectations that are subject to risks and uncertainties.
Actual
<br>> > results will differ due to factors such as shifts
in customer demand,
<br>> > product shipment schedules, product mix, competitive
products and
<br>> > pricing, technological shifts and other variables.
Readers are
<br>> > referred to GraphOn's most recent reports filed
with the Securities
<br>> > and Exchange Commission.
<br>> >
<br>> > Note: GraphOn, Bridges, GO-Joe, GO-Global, GO-Between,
and jBridge are
<br>> > trademarks or registered trademarks of GraphOn
Corp.
<br>> >
<br>> > CONTACT: GraphOn Corporation
<br>> >
Rusty Keller, 1-800-GRAPHON
<br>> >
rusty.keller "at" graphon.com
<br>> >
[12]<a href="http://www.graphon.com">http://www.graphon.com</a>
<br>> >
or
<br>> >
Pat Meier Associates
<br>> >
Pat Meier, 415/392-4200
<br>> >
patmeier "at" patmeier.com
<br>> >
[13]<a href="http://www.patmeier.com">http://www.patmeier.com</a>
<br>> >
<br>> >
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<br>> >
<br>> >
[15]Smith Barney
<br>> >
<br>> > GRAPHON CORP - [16]GOJO
<br>> > Price 8 5/8
<br>> > Net Change [downarrow2.gif] -1/2
<br>> > Volume (000) 184
<br>> > Day High 9 3/8
<br>> > Day Low 8 3/8
<br>> >
<br>> >
as of
<br>> >
11/16/99 15:08 PM EST
<br>> >
<br>> >
[17]Ameritrade. Believe in yourself (sm)
<br>> >
<br>> >
[18]Office Max!
<br>> >
<br>> > More Info
<br>> > [19]GOJO
<br>> > Stocks News
<br>> > Symbol (_)
<br>> > Name (_) [Quotes/News....] _________ Go!
<br>> > ________________ Go!
<br>> > [20]Advanced Search
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<br>> >
<br>> > References
<br>> >
<br>> > Visible links:
<br>> > 1. LYNXIMGMAP:<a href="http://www.newsalert.com/bin/story?StoryId=CoddK0bKbytaYmJm&FQ=Linux&Nav=na-search-&StoryTitle=Linux#Map1">http://www.newsalert.com/bin/story?StoryId=CoddK0bKbytaYmJm&FQ=Linux&Nav=na-search-&StoryTitle=Linux#Map1</a>
<br>> > 2. <a href="http://www.newsalert.com/bin/usernews">http://www.newsalert.com/bin/usernews</a>
<br>> > 3. <a href="http://www.newsalert.com/bin/daily">http://www.newsalert.com/bin/daily</a>
<br>> > 4. <a href="http://www.newsalert.com/bin/qresearch">http://www.newsalert.com/bin/qresearch</a>
<br>> > 5. <a href="http://www.newsalert.com/bin/mktg/aboutus.htm">http://www.newsalert.com/bin/mktg/aboutus.htm</a>
<br>> > 6. <a href="http://ad.doubleclick.net/adi/bw.newsalert.com/;pac=search;kw=;sz=468x60;tile=1;ord=942782906">http://ad.doubleclick.net/adi/bw.newsalert.com/;pac=search;kw=;sz=468x60;tile=1;ord=942782906</a>
<br>> > 7. <a href="http://ad.doubleclick.net/jump/bw.newsalert.com/;pac=search;kw=;sz=468x60;tile=1;ord=942782906">http://ad.doubleclick.net/jump/bw.newsalert.com/;pac=search;kw=;sz=468x60;tile=1;ord=942782906</a>
<br>> > 8. <a href="http://www.newsalert.com/bin/story?StoryId=CoddK0bKbytaYmJm&Print=1">http://www.newsalert.com/bin/story?StoryId=CoddK0bKbytaYmJm&Print=1</a>
<br>> > 9. <a href="http://www.newsalert.com/bin/story?StoryId=CoddK0bKbytaYmJm&FQ=Linux&Nav=na-search-&StoryTitle=Linux#moreinfo">http://www.newsalert.com/bin/story?StoryId=CoddK0bKbytaYmJm&FQ=Linux&Nav=na-search-&StoryTitle=Linux#moreinfo</a>
<br>> > 10. <a href="http://www.newsalert.com/bin/story?StoryId=CoddK0bKbytaYmJm&FQ=Linux&Nav=na-search-&StoryTitle=Linux#Hilite">http://www.newsalert.com/bin/story?StoryId=CoddK0bKbytaYmJm&FQ=Linux&Nav=na-search-&StoryTitle=Linux#Hilite</a>
<br>> > 11. <a href="http://www.graphon.com/">http://www.graphon.com/</a>
<br>> > 12. <a href="http://www.graphon.com/">http://www.graphon.com/</a>
<br>> > 13. <a href="http://www.patmeier.com/">http://www.patmeier.com/</a>
<br>> > 14. <a href="http://www.newsalert.com/bin/mktg/bw.htm">http://www.newsalert.com/bin/mktg/bw.htm</a>
<br>> > 15. <a href="http://ad.doubleclick.net/jump/newsalert.com/sponsor-button/loc3;sz=120x120;ord=942782906">http://ad.doubleclick.net/jump/newsalert.com/sponsor-button/loc3;sz=120x120;ord=942782906</a>
<br>> > 16. <a href="http://www.newsalert.com/bin/digest?Symbol=GOJO">http://www.newsalert.com/bin/digest?Symbol=GOJO</a>
<br>> > 17. <a href="http://ad.doubleclick.net/jump/N879.ameritrade.newsalert/B15706.4;sz=120x60;ord=942782906">http://ad.doubleclick.net/jump/N879.ameritrade.newsalert/B15706.4;sz=120x60;ord=942782906</a>?
<br>> > 18. <a href="http://ads08.focalink.com/SmartBanner/page?12183.13-942782906">http://ads08.focalink.com/SmartBanner/page?12183.13-942782906</a>
<br>> > 19. <a href="http://www.newsalert.com/bin/digest?Symbol=GOJO">http://www.newsalert.com/bin/digest?Symbol=GOJO</a>
<br>> > 20. <a href="http://www.newsalert.com/bin/search">http://www.newsalert.com/bin/search</a>
<br>> > 21. <a href="http://www.newsalert.com/free/redirect?datekbut">http://www.newsalert.com/free/redirect?datekbut</a>
<br>> > 22. <a href="http://www.newsalert.com/free/redirect?winvestbut">http://www.newsalert.com/free/redirect?winvestbut</a>
<br>> > 23. <a href="http://click.avenuea.com/go/newsalert_onvia_ba544_102999_02/direct/01">http://click.avenuea.com/go/newsalert_onvia_ba544_102999_02/direct/01</a>
<br>> > 24. <a href="http://click.avenuea.com/go/newsalert_ecost_ba542_102899aj_02/direct/01">http://click.avenuea.com/go/newsalert_ecost_ba542_102899aj_02/direct/01</a>
<br>> > 25. <a href="http://ad.doubleclick.net/adi/bw.newsalert.com/;pac=search;kw=;sz=468x60;tile=2;ord=942782906">http://ad.doubleclick.net/adi/bw.newsalert.com/;pac=search;kw=;sz=468x60;tile=2;ord=942782906</a>
<br>> > 26. <a href="http://ad.doubleclick.net/jump/bw.newsalert.com/;pac=search;kw=;sz=468x60;tile=2;ord=942782906">http://ad.doubleclick.net/jump/bw.newsalert.com/;pac=search;kw=;sz=468x60;tile=2;ord=942782906</a>
<br>> >
<br>> > Hidden links:
<br>> > 27. <a href="http://ads05.focalink.com/SmartBanner/page?12183.20-INSERT_TIME_DATE_STAMP_HERE">http://ads05.focalink.com/SmartBanner/page?12183.20-INSERT_TIME_DATE_STAMP_HERE</a>
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<br>> > - ___________.___________________.___________________._______________________
<br>> > - < Al Piszcz | apiszcz "at" mitre.org | MITRE Corporation | 703.883.7124/3308
FAX >
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