[Fwd: Multiple Xvnc at boot time?]

Jason Reichhold wjreichhold "at" entpm3.prod.fedex.com
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From: John Lin <johnl "at" usc.edu>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:44:06 -0600
To: VNC list <vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk>
Subject: Multiple Xvnc at boot time?
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I am running RedHat 5.2.  How can I start many vncserver at the boot
time for many users.  It seems that the user has to login and then run
vncserver.  Is there any way I can start vncserver for multiple users in
/etc/rc.local?

Thanks in advance!

John



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From: Torben Dam Jensen <tdj "at" hco.kol.ou.dk>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:44:07 -0600
To: vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk
Subject: running server when logging out
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Is there any way to run the server on linux when
you are logged out?
(so that you can connect using the viewer without having to
start up a telnet client first) ?

My idea is a cron job that runs once, then again in 5 years
(=never).

        - Torben


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From: Roger Felts <rfelts "at" gte.net>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:44:08 -0600
To: "vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk" <vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk>
Subject: RE: WinVNC connection
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R5 on both Win95 boxes and the original CE viewer...

On Friday, November 27, 1998 5:06 AM, James [Wez] Weatherall wrote:

> Oooh.  Bad.  Which revision of WinVNC are you running?  Pre-R5 versions
> have a sort of peculiar bug that can cause crashes.
>
> As to the actual problem, that's Q's area, so I'll let him deal with 
it...

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From: "James [Wez] Weatherall" <jnw "at" orl.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:44:09 -0600
To: Klaus Kolle <klaus "at" kolle.com>
cc: vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk
Subject: Re: WinVNC server CPU load and performance: (was: WinVNC Server)
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On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Klaus Kolle wrote:

> After rsponding to this post I've downloaded another telling me
> to adjust my settings, so now they are correct and I do not
> experience 100 % CPU loads as before.
>
> One thing to put into the FAQ on a visible place.
>
> I do have checked Poll window under cursor and now also Poll
> console window.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> -Klaus

:)  OK.  Quite right, I should mention this in the Docs and/or the FAQ.

Thanks for the feedback,

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From: Eric Goforth <EricGoforth "at" csi.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:44:09 -0600
To: vnc-list <vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk>
Subject: Stopping VNC from automatically loading
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When I installed VNC on my Windows 95 machine I checked a box that made
VNC automatically load in the system tray of my PC.  I'd like to prevent
it from loading every time.  It's not in the Startup group and I don't
see any option in VNC properties to turn the autoload off.  Is there a
way to turn this off, preferably without mucking in the system registry?



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From: "James [Wez] Weatherall" <jnw "at" orl.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:44:10 -0600
To: Chuck_Mattern "at" HomeDepot.COM
cc: vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk
Subject: Re: Install Shield Problem
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On Mon, 30 Nov 1998 Chuck_Mattern "at" HomeDepot.COM wrote:

> Setup requires a different version of Windows.  Check to make sure you 
are
> running Setup on the Windows platform for which it was intended.
>
> Error 102
>
> At first I thought this was due to an IBM version of Win95 but I've now
> seen the same message on an old HP Vectra in a lab I work in 
occaisionally.
> I have several other team members running VNC on their machines (HP) with
> no problem.  Does anyone know what this error refers to?

I've never seen this before.  Are you sure the installer downloaded &
extracted correctly?  What exact version of Win95 are you running?
You can install WinVNC manually fairly easily, from an existing install,
but it would still be nice to fix the installer..

Cheers,

James "Wez" Weatherall
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From: "James [Wez] Weatherall" <jnw "at" orl.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:44:11 -0600
To: Eric Goforth <EricGoforth "at" csi.com>
cc: vnc-list <vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Stopping VNC from automatically loading
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On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Eric Goforth wrote:

> When I installed VNC on my Windows 95 machine I checked a box that made
> VNC automatically load in the system tray of my PC.  I'd like to prevent
> it from loading every time.  It's not in the Startup group and I don't
> see any option in VNC properties to turn the autoload off.  Is there a
> way to turn this off, preferably without mucking in the system registry?

What tick box?  There isn't any such tick box in the current release.  The
behaviour you describe indicates that WinVNC is running as a service on
your system.  Is this the case?

Cheers,

James "Wez" Weatherall
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From: "James [Wez] Weatherall" <jnw "at" orl.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:44:11 -0600
To: Klaus Kolle <klaus "at" kolle.com>
cc: vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk
Subject: Re: WinVNC server CPU load and performance: (was: WinVNC Server)
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On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Klaus Kolle wrote:

> > On 28 Nov 1998, Hiroji Ochii writes:
> >
> > > However, the vnc server on the Windows NT machine is incredibly slow
> > > comparing with vnc server on linux box.  I have noticed that this may
> > > happen because that the CPU usage of Windows NT goes up to 100%(!!) 
as
> > > soon as the vnc connection is made.
> >
> > > I am wondering if this situation may be improved. If yes, how can I 
solv
> > > it?  Please note that my Windows NT is a Japanese Windows NT 4.0
> > > Workstation.  The situation is the same even if I use NT Server.
> >
> > I don't have a solution, but can provide another data point.  Under
> > the USA version of NT Server here, the VNC server 3.3.2R5 takes only
> > 2% to 5% of CPU as shown by NT Task Manager.  This is on a dual
> > processor PII-300 machine running NT Server 4.0 with SP3 installed.
>
> I run the US version NT as well (SP3) but with danish setup
> and experience the same 100 % CPU-load. Quite anoying for
> such a fine product in all other ways.

What Properties have you selected in the Properties tab?

Cheers,

James "Wez" Weatherall
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From: "Robert Dahlem" <Robert.Dahlem "at" frankfurt.netsurf.de>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:44:12 -0600
To: "Chuck_Mattern "at" HomeDepot.COM" <Chuck_Mattern "at" HomeDepot.COM>, 
 "vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk" <vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk>
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Chuck,

On Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:01:20 -0500, Chuck_Mattern "at" HomeDepot.COM wrote:

>I'm attempting to install the latest WinVNC on my Win95 machine at work 
and
>am getting the following message:
>
>Setup requires a different version of Windows.  Check to make sure you are
>running Setup on the Windows platform for which it was intended.

You are not running VNC's setup.exe or you are not running it from the 
winvnc
directory. Try to run COMMAND, then manually change to the winvnc 
directory, then
type SETUP. If you dont have a winvnc directory nor a vncviewer directory 
you did
not unpack the distribution file preserving paths.

Hasta la vista,
               Robert

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From: idallen "at" freenet.carleton.ca (Ian! D. Allen [NCFreeNet])
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:44:12 -0600
To: vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk
Subject: Chording to emulate middle button?
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I need that third button emulation in the Windows95 VNC client.
I'll try some patches, if anyone has any.

I have a Logitech three-button mouse on my Windows95 machine, but I've
mapped the middle button to "iconify window", so it doesn't get through
to the VNC client.  I can, of course, turn off the special handling of
the middle button and it does work fine under the VNC client; however, I
really like having my middle button for iconifying Win95 windows.

I have a regular X-server for Win95 that lets me chord the two outer
buttons to stand for the middle one; I'd like the Win95 VNC client to be
able to do the same thing so that I have a consistent user interface.

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From: "robert" <zzhang3 "at" uic.edu>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:44:13 -0600
To: vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk
Subject: watching tv
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I have a tv card on my w95 and machine and try to teleport the tv screen to 
anothere machine but can not see the picture, is there anyway that I can 
make vnc to do this at all?



Robert

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From: Jonathan Marsden <Jonathan "at" XC.Org>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:44:14 -0600
To: ochi "at" mus.hitachi-sk.co.jp (Hiroji Ochii)
cc: vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk
Subject: WinVNC server CPU load and performance: (was: WinVNC Server)
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On 28 Nov 1998, Hiroji Ochii writes:

> However, the vnc server on the Windows NT machine is incredibly slow
> comparing with vnc server on linux box.  I have noticed that this
> may happen because that the CPU usage of Windows NT goes up to
> 100%(!!) as soon as the vnc connection is made.

> I am wondering if this situation may be improved. If yes, how can I
> solv it?  Please note that my Windows NT is a Japanese Windows NT
> 4.0 Workstation.  The situation is the same even if I use NT Server.

I don't have a solution, but can provide another data point.  Under
the USA version of NT Server here, the VNC server 3.3.2R5 takes only
2% to 5% of CPU as shown by NT Task Manager.  This is on a dual
processor PII-300 machine running NT Server 4.0 with SP3 installed.

So, I suspect the problem may have something to do with the Japanese
NT not being quite the same as the USA NT?

Our only real problem with VNC here is slowness of update when using
the NT version of the server over a 28.8 modem link.  PC Anywhere is
(subjectively) significantly faster and so more practically usable.

Well, and a few keystrokes are apparently not mapped from the X viewer
(under RedHat Linux 5.2) to the NT server, including Shift-TAB, which
we use a lot in navigating onscreen forms...  but that's a minor
niggle I can live with, not a major problem.

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From: idallen "at" freenet.carleton.ca (Ian! D. Allen [NCFreeNet])
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:44:14 -0600
To: vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk
Subject: Twm cursor warping eludes VNC Win95 client
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I use the twm "warping" feature that lets me use keyboard characters to
move ("warp") the cursor between windows.  Unfortunately, this moving of
the cursor isn't noticed by my Win95 VNC client - the little dot stays in
the original window, while my "real" cursor moves to the new window,
along with keyboard focus.

Things work mostly fine until I go to move the mouse for something, or
until I SHIFT-TAB to a Win95 application and SHIFT-TAB back, or until
some scheduled Win95 application pops up a window on my screen and then
disappears.  Any of these things cause the "real" cursor to distractingly
jump back to the original window, where the little dot is, abandoning the
window where I was typing and taking keyboard focus with it.  Suddenly
I'm typing back in the original window, not in the window that I had
warped into.  I can re-warp back to the other window, but it still
won't take the "little dot" cursor with it to make the warp "permanent".

I don't know how the Linux VNC server can tell the Win95 VNC client that
the cursor has "warped" to a different place; but, I wish it could.
The same problem happens when I warp the cursor into the twm icon
manager using the keyboard; the "little dot" cursor doesn't follow.

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From: ochi "at" mus.hitachi-sk.co.jp (Hiroji Ochii)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:44:15 -0600
To: vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk
Subject: Re: WinVNC Server
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I am having a problem about WinVNC.

I have installed vnc serve both on a Linux box and a Windows NT
machine.  The cliet is another Windows NT Workstation.

The linux box with vnc server works so fine that I feel I do not want an
expensive X-server software on Windows NT any more.

However, the vnc server on the Windows NT machine is incredibly slow
comparing with vnc server on linux box.  I have noticed that this may
happen because that the CPU usage of Windows NT goes up to 100%(!!) as
soon as the vnc connection is made.

I am wondering if this situation may be improved. If yes, how can I solv
it?
Please note that my Windows NT is a Japanese Windows NT 4.0
Workstation.  The situation is the same even if I use NT Server.

It would be highly appreciated if someone could answer my question.

Regards,
 =====================================================================
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 Multimedia Systems Dept.,       Hitachi Software Engineering Co., Ltd.
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From: "robert" <zzhang3 "at" uic.edu>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:44:15 -0600
To: vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk
Subject: linux
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I installed vnc (the latest version) on rh5.1 and had no problem for linux 
to see win95 but the problem is under w95 when I tried to use vncviewer to 
see linux I could not make it work. Under linux I used vncviewer and got 
something like
"New 'X' desktop is linux.uic.edu:1" (I already gave a password for the 
server), then if I went to w95 and try "vncviewer ipaddress of the linux 
machine:1" and got message:"failed to connect the server", I did not even 
get the chance to type in the password. If I tried linux.uic.edu then I got 
the message: "Did you type in the host name correctly?", either way I could 
not get to X windows from w95, could anyone out there help me out?


Thanks

robert

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&quot;vncviewer ipaddress of the linux machine:1&quot; and got=20
message:&quot;failed to connect the server&quot;, I did not even get the ch=
ance=20
to type in the password. If I tried linux.uic.edu then I got the message:=20
&quot;Did you type in the host name correctly?&quot;, either way I could no=
t get=20
to X windows from w95, could anyone out there help me out?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Thanks </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>robert</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>


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From: "Virginia Metze" <metze "at" ginny.mrl.uiuc.edu>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:47:45 -0600
To: "Darxus" <darxus "at" Op.Net>, "Niels S. Eliasen" <nse "at" ruc.dk>
cc: vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk
Subject: RE: VNC for VMS ?
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I am unable to find that VMS download on the platforms page.

VMS still is run on many machines in the scientific environment;
I would think someone would have done this???

Ginny

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> Behalf Of Darxus
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 1998 4:26 PM
> To: Niels S. Eliasen
> Cc: vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk
> Subject: Re: VNC for VMS ?
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> On Mon, 23 Nov 1998, Niels S. Eliasen wrote:
>
> > Hello
> > Don't laugh....;-) For us old hats who have grown up on VMS....
> >
> > Do anyone know whether there exists a VNC(server primarily) for VMS ??
>
> Yup, saw one when I was grabbing the NT/Alpha port, which has a link at
> the bottom of the VNC "platforms" page.  Dunnow how functional it is, but
> it's there....
>
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