[Fwd: Install Shield Problem]

Jason Reichhold wjreichhold "at" entpm3.prod.fedex.com
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From: Chuck_Mattern "at" HomeDepot.COM
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:17:30 -0600
To: vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk
Subject: Re: Install Shield Problem
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This was interesting, you tipped me off to the actual problem.  I was
attempting to install from an NFS mount tomy home  directory on an HP-UX
box. xcopying the directory form there to c:, installing from c: did the
trick.  Thanks to all for the assistance, any clues why this would have to
work this way?

Chuck




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Subject:  Re: Install Shield Problem




Chuck,

On Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:01:20 -0500, Chuck_Mattern "at" HomeDepot.COM wrote:

>I'm attempting to install the latest WinVNC on my Win95 machine at work
and
>am getting the following message:
>
>Setup requires a different version of Windows.  Check to make sure you are
>running Setup on the Windows platform for which it was intended.

You are not running VNC's setup.exe or you are not running it from the
winvnc
directory. Try to run COMMAND, then manually change to the winvnc
directory, then
type SETUP. If you dont have a winvnc directory nor a vncviewer directory
you did
not unpack the distribution file preserving paths.

Hasta la vista,
               Robert

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From: FRANK PAPA <FPAPA "at" email.usps.gov>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:17:59 -0600
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Subject: CAPS LOCK on the server causes a problem
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     We're running a bunch of NT Servers (with VNC Server) and NT
     Workstations (where we're using the VNC Client).  When the CAPS LOCK
     is on on one of the servers, everything we type through VNC comes out
     in CAPS.  Pressing CAPS on the client does not cancel out the CAPS
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From: "James [Wez] Weatherall" <jnw "at" orl.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:19:35 -0600
To: Chuck_Mattern "at" HomeDepot.COM
cc: vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk
Subject: Re: Install Shield Problem
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On Tue, 1 Dec 1998 Chuck_Mattern "at" HomeDepot.COM wrote:

> This was interesting, you tipped me off to the actual problem.  I was
> attempting to install from an NFS mount tomy home  directory on an HP-UX
> box. xcopying the directory form there to c:, installing from c: did the
> trick.  Thanks to all for the assistance, any clues why this would have 
to
> work this way?

If you're using Samba, then it'll be because Samba doesn't seem to support
FileInformation queries from the NT/95 side, apparently.

Cheers,

James "Wez" Weatherall
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From: "Simon Dean" <simon "at" fits.uk.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:20:06 -0600
To: "VNC List" <vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk>
Subject: Re: WinVNC server CPU load and performance: (was: WinVNC Server)
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Would be setting the priority of WinVNC on NT in Task Manager be the best
solution?

Regards,

Simon Dean
Force IT Solutions Ltd

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Marsden <Jonathan "at" XC.Org>
To: Hiroji Ochii <ochi "at" mus.hitachi-sk.co.jp>
Cc: vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk <vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk>
Date: 28 November 1998 19:53
Subject: WinVNC server CPU load and performance: (was: WinVNC Server)


>On 28 Nov 1998, Hiroji Ochii writes:
>
>> However, the vnc server on the Windows NT machine is incredibly slow
>> comparing with vnc server on linux box.  I have noticed that this
>> may happen because that the CPU usage of Windows NT goes up to
>> 100%(!!) as soon as the vnc connection is made.
>
>> I am wondering if this situation may be improved. If yes, how can I
>> solv it?  Please note that my Windows NT is a Japanese Windows NT
>> 4.0 Workstation.  The situation is the same even if I use NT Server.
>
>I don't have a solution, but can provide another data point.  Under
>the USA version of NT Server here, the VNC server 3.3.2R5 takes only
>2% to 5% of CPU as shown by NT Task Manager.  This is on a dual
>processor PII-300 machine running NT Server 4.0 with SP3 installed.
>
>So, I suspect the problem may have something to do with the Japanese
>NT not being quite the same as the USA NT?
>
>Our only real problem with VNC here is slowness of update when using
>the NT version of the server over a 28.8 modem link.  PC Anywhere is
>(subjectively) significantly faster and so more practically usable.
>
>Well, and a few keystrokes are apparently not mapped from the X viewer
>(under RedHat Linux 5.2) to the NT server, including Shift-TAB, which
>we use a lot in navigating onscreen forms...  but that's a minor
>niggle I can live with, not a major problem.
>
>Jonathan
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From: Zerone Monokryptik <monokryptik "at" yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:24:27 -0600
To: vnc-list <vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk>
Subject: Redhat 5.2
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I had been running Redhat 5.1 on multiple systems. It seems when I
upgrade the systems to Redhat 5.2 vncserver no longer functions. I get
the following error:

Prototype_mismatch: sub_main::__need_size_t vs () at (eval 44) line 1.
String found where operator expected at (eval 148) line 1, near
"&__const 'struct sockaddr"
            (Missing operator before 'struct sockaddr'?)

If them proceeds to use every bit of memory and swap before it
displays an "Out of memory!" error. Any ideas?

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From: Roger Felts <rfelts "at" gte.net>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:25:36 -0600
To: "vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk" <vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk>
Subject: RE: watching tv
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No.

On Sunday, November 29, 1998 11:37 AM, robert wrote:

> I have a tv card on my w95 and machine and try to teleport the tv screen
to anothere machine but can not see the picture, is there anyway that I can
make vnc to do this at all?

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From: Quentin Stafford-Fraser <quentin "at" orl.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:25:51 -0600
To: vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk
Subject: Re: linux
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Robert -

Have you tried the various things listed in the FAQ to test the network
connection?

Regards,
Quentin Stafford-Fraser

robert wrote:

> ...if I went to w95 and try "vncviewer ipaddress of the linux
> machine:1" and got message:"failed to connect the server", I did not
> even get the chance to type in the password. If I tried linux.uic.edu
> then I got the message: "Did you type in the host name correctly?",
> either way I could not get to X windows from w95, could anyone out
> there help me out?

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From: "James [Wez] Weatherall" <jnw "at" orl.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:25:52 -0600
To: Hiroji Ochii <ochi "at" mus.hitachi-sk.co.jp>
cc: vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk
Subject: Re: WinVNC Server
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On Sat, 28 Nov 1998, Hiroji Ochii wrote:

> However, the vnc server on the Windows NT machine is incredibly slow
> comparing with vnc server on linux box.  I have noticed that this may
> happen because that the CPU usage of Windows NT goes up to 100%(!!) as
> soon as the vnc connection is made.

The VNC server for Windows will generally be slower than the VNC server
for X, because more guesswork is involved in tracking screen updates.

If the CPU usage stays consistently at 100%, then I suspect you have
either:

a) Ticked 'Poll Full Screen'
OR
b) Ticked one of 'Poll Foreground Window' or 'Poll Window Under Cursor',
without having 'Poll Console Windows Only' ticked.

Is this the case?

Cheers,

James "Wez" Weatherall
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From: idallen "at" freenet.carleton.ca (Ian! D. Allen [NCFreeNet])
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:25:53 -0600
To: vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk
Subject: Memory leak fixed by posted patch
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Indeed, the patch posted to the FAQ page does fix the memory problem
for Xvnc under Linux.  Thank you!

    SIZE   RSS  TIME COMMAND
    4372  3352 21:36 Xvnc :1


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From: idallen "at" freenet.carleton.ca (Ian! D. Allen [NCFreeNet])
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:25:54 -0600
To: vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk
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> Anyone got Xvnc working properly on a Sparc machine?

I had it working fine on Solaris 2.6 (not Linux) on a Sparc 5.
Connected 9 simultaneous clients to it, too!  (It wasn't very fast.)

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From: "James [Wez] Weatherall" <jnw "at" orl.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:25:55 -0600
To: FRANK PAPA <FPAPA "at" email.usps.gov>
cc: "        -         (052)vnc-list(a)orl.co.uk" <vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk>
Subject: Re: CAPS LOCK on the server causes a problem
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On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, FRANK PAPA wrote:

     We're running a bunch of NT Servers (with VNC Server) and NT
>      Workstations (where we're using the VNC Client).  When the CAPS LOCK
>      is on on one of the servers, everything we type through VNC comes 
out
>      in CAPS.  Pressing CAPS on the client does not cancel out the CAPS

What if you press Shift at the client side?

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From: Chuck_Mattern "at" HomeDepot.COM
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:25:55 -0600
To: vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk
Subject: Install Shield Problem
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I post this a while back but saw no response so please forgive the repost.
I'm attempting to install the latest WinVNC on my Win95 machine at work and
am getting the following message:

Setup requires a different version of Windows.  Check to make sure you are
running Setup on the Windows platform for which it was intended.

Error 102

At first I thought this was due to an IBM version of Win95 but I've now
seen the same message on an old HP Vectra in a lab I work in occaisionally.
I have several other team members running VNC on their machines (HP) with
no problem.  Does anyone know what this error refers to?

Thanks
Chuck



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From: Wade Maxfield <maxfield "at" one.ctelcom.net>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:25:56 -0600
To: Torben Dam Jensen <tdj "at" hco.kol.ou.dk>
cc: vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk
Subject: Re: running server when logging out
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  I believe that you could use inetd to run the server on a port you put
in /etc/services.  Inetd has a configuration file.  You could play with
it.  I would make it run as a fairly low user.  You can use sudo to run
programs you want that user to have access to as root.

wade

On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, Torben Dam Jensen wrote:

> Is there any way to run the server on linux when
> you are logged out?
> (so that you can connect using the viewer without having to
> start up a telnet client first) ?
>
> My idea is a cron job that runs once, then again in 5 years
> (=never).
>
>       - Torben
>
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From: SHIBATA Seiki <seiki "at" flab.fujitsu.co.jp>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:25:56 -0600
To: zzhang3 "at" uic.edu
cc: vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk
Subject: Re: watching tv
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Robert wrote:
> I have a tv card on my w95 and machine and try to teleport the tv
> screen to anothere machine but can not see the picture, is there
> anyway that I can make vnc to do this at all?

Hauppauge WinTV/PCI can do this in primay surface mode. In this mode,
TV pictures are written in video memory. But you should not expect
full frame rate.

// seiki

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From: "David Starks-Browning" <starksb "at" ebi.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:25:57 -0600
To: David Riddle <dpr "at" gold.ac.uk>
cc: vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk
Subject: Re: Strange LIST protocol (summary)
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Look for the header

     Sender: owner-vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk

As far as I can tell, list-generated mail will ALWAYS have this
header, regardless of how it got there.

David

On Wed 25 Nov 98, David Riddle writes:
> Thanks for your replies.. not one rude one!
>
> I think this response from Wade sums up the 'peculiarity' in this case.
> However, I have now discovered that Eudora Lite can, in fact, filter .cc
> fields, so I am going to try that!
>
> >    Most lists put the "from" address as being the list.
> >
> >    This list puts the "From" address as being the person sending the 
message,
> >with a "cc" to the list.
> >
> >    With a "reply to all recipients", or a "reply", the To: is always 
the
> >person that originated the list posting, not the list.
>


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From: VNC-List <VNC-List "at" ukc.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:25:58 -0600
To: vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk
Subject: Re: Problems with SparcLinux and vncserver
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In message <19981125144508.2620.qmail "at" wiener.math.csi.cuny.edu> you wrote:

> I am trying to use the vnc server on a Sparc5 running RedHat 5.2.

> Once I run it though I have problems with the fonts, and opening new
> windows. The inital xterm has unreadable fonts. The popup menus are
> very garbled and the server very unstable.

  I have the same problems when trying to run Xvnc on a Sparc 1 running
Debian Linux.  The server runs fine on a 486 machine running Debian
linux as well, so could it possibly be a Sparc related problem? Or a
problem with the Sparc version of X (Tho X itself doesn't seem to have
these problems)?

 Anyone got Xvnc working properly on a Sparc machine?

Leo




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From: "Klaus Kolle" <klaus "at" kolle.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:25:58 -0600
To: "James [Wez] Weatherall" <jnw "at" orl.co.uk>, vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk
Subject: Re: WinVNC server CPU load and performance: (was: WinVNC Server)
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.....
> > > 2% to 5% of CPU as shown by NT Task Manager.  This
is on a dual
> > > processor PII-300 machine running NT Server 4.0 with SP3 installed.
> >
> > I run the US version NT as well (SP3) but with danish setup
> > and experience the same 100 % CPU-load. Quite anoying for
> > such a fine product in all other ways.
>
> What Properties have you selected in the Properties tab?
>
> Cheers,
>
After rsponding to this post I've downloaded another telling me
to adjust my settings, so now they are correct and I do not
experience 100 % CPU loads as before.

One thing to put into the FAQ on a visible place.

I do have checked Poll window under cursor and now also Poll
console window.

Thanks for your help.

-Klaus
> James "Wez" Weatherall
> --
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From: "Klaus Kolle" <klaus "at" kolle.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:25:58 -0600
To: vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk
Subject: Re: WinVNC server CPU load and performance: (was: WinVNC Server)
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> On 28 Nov 1998, Hiroji Ochii writes:
>
> > However, the vnc server on the Windows NT machine is incredibly slow
> > comparing with vnc server on linux box.  I have noticed that this may
> > happen because that the CPU usage of Windows NT goes up to 100%(!!) as
> > soon as the vnc connection is made.
>
> > I am wondering if this situation may be improved. If yes, how can I=20
solv
> > it?  Please note that my Windows NT is a Japanese Windows NT 4.0
> > Workstation.  The situation is the same even if I use NT Server.
>
> I don't have a solution, but can provide another data point.  Under
> the USA version of NT Server here, the VNC server 3.3.2R5 takes only
> 2% to 5% of CPU as shown by NT Task Manager.  This is on a dual
> processor PII-300 machine running NT Server 4.0 with SP3 installed.

I run the US version NT as well (SP3) but with danish setup
and experience the same 100 % CPU-load. Quite anoying for
such a fine product in all other ways.

-Klaus
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From: Eric Goforth <EricGoforth "at" csi.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:26:09 -0600
To: vnc-list <vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Stopping VNC from automatically loading
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Perhaps I was incorrect when I said that there was a check box, but when
I first installed and / or ran VNC I did something that the WinVNC
Server 3.3.2 to be loaded into my system tray every time I launch
Windows.  I can right-click on this item and select Close VNC and it
goes away.  A dial up networking dialog box is also launched every time
that I start Windows, I don't believe that was occurring before either.

I wanted to use VNC to be able to use my Windows 95 computer from my
Linux computer at home.  I have, so far, been unable to establish a PPP
connection from Linux to the Windows 95 dialup server so haven't been
able to try it out.  I can get a PPP connection when I boot my home
computer into Windows 95, but don't have WinVNC on it yet.

In order to use WinVNC, do I need to put the WinVNC host on the dial up
server PC, or can I install it on the computer that I want to access,
which is networked to the dialup server?

James [Wez] Weatherall wrote:
>
> On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Eric Goforth wrote:
>
> > When I installed VNC on my Windows 95 machine I checked a box that made
> > VNC automatically load in the system tray of my PC.  I'd like to 
prevent
> > it from loading every time.  It's not in the Startup group and I don't
> > see any option in VNC properties to turn the autoload off.  Is there a
> > way to turn this off, preferably without mucking in the system 
registry?
>
> What tick box?  There isn't any such tick box in the current release. The
> behaviour you describe indicates that WinVNC is running as a service on
> your system.  Is this the case?
>
> Cheers,
>
> James "Wez" Weatherall
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From: ochi "at" mus.hitachi-sk.co.jp (Hiroji Ochii)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:26:09 -0600
To: Jonathan "at" XC.Org
cc: vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk
Subject: Re: WinVNC server CPU load and performance: (was: WinVNC Server)
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[( Sat, 28 Nov 1998 10:38:43 -0800 (PST) )
    Jonathan Marsden <Jonathan "at" XC.Org> Wrote: ]
> I don't have a solution, but can provide another data point.  Under
> the USA version of NT Server here, the VNC server 3.3.2R5 takes only
> 2% to 5% of CPU as shown by NT Task Manager.  This is on a dual
> processor PII-300 machine running NT Server 4.0 with SP3 installed.
>
> So, I suspect the problem may have something to do with the Japanese
> NT not being quite the same as the USA NT?

Yes, I also suspect this might be caused by Japanese Language
Environment because, as you might have known, there is a kind of
program(s) called Japanese Imput Method, which enables us to input
Japanese characters.  Furthermore, using this input method over network
seems to require more efforts for us to use VNC on Japanese Windows NT.

Unix servers do not have that kind of problem because they are quite
independend of individual languages.  Anyway, I need to check by using
English Win-NT but I am not sure I can find a solution, though.

Regards,

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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:26:11 -0600
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Hi all,

I've downloaded the vnc application but it's only for windows 95/98/NT but 
I would like to know if there is also a version for windowss 3.x.

Greetings
Eric.

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From: Marcus Brinkmann <Marcus.Brinkmann "at" ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:26:19 -0600
To: bmah "at" CA.Sandia.GOV
cc: Darxus <darxus "at" Op.Net>, vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk
Subject: Re: fontpath problems (was: Re: found RedHat 5.2 vnc server problem
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On Tue, Nov 24, 1998 at 08:18:24PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
> If memory serves me right, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 24, 1998 at 03:55:34PM -0500, Darxus wrote:
> > > On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > >
> > > Debian, at least my installation of it (v2.1) doe snot have the font
> > > "fixed".
> > > Would this cause the error about failing to set the path ?
> >
> > No. You have the font "fixed" , believe me, it is one of the essential
> > things that are automatically installed with X. The error is because 
Xvnc
> > does not set the FontPath at all whenever one fontdir is not existing. 
You
> > can fix this by stripping the FontPath to only existing font 
directories.
>
> Here's a few cents on this from a new quarter:  It's not just a Debian
> problem...FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE, XFree86 3.3.2.3, observed on multiple 
systems
> that definitely have a fixed (6x13) font.

I have noticed now that maybe the server do no checking of the font path,
but startx or another wrapper does it. So indeed Xvnc's behaviour is the
same as the behaviour of any X server. I suggest that Bruce's patch is
applied to vncserver. It will certainly be done in the Debian distribution.

> I "solved" this problem for the FreeBSD ports collection by doing a patch 
to
> the vncserver script at install time...it makes vncserver iterate over 
the
> directories in the fontpath and throw out the ones that don't exist 
before
> passing them as arguments to Xvnc.  It's kind of a hack, but I didn't 
have the
> time or expertise to try to figure out why Xvnc wasn't behaving the same 
was
> as the installed XFree86 server on the host.  I've attached the patch 
below...

Thank you for the patch, Bruce! It saves me some work (I was going to do 
the
same). I don't consider it to be a hack, it seems to be the correct 
solution
(apart from fixing all X servers).

Bye,
Marcus

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From: Marcos Assis Silva <assis "at" uel.br>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:26:21 -0600
To: John Lin <johnl "at" usc.edu>
cc: VNC list <vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Multiple Xvnc at boot time?
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On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, John Lin wrote:
|o| I am running RedHat 5.2.  How can I start many vncserver at the boot
|o| time for many users.  It seems that the user has to login and then run
|o| vncserver.  Is there any way I can start vncserver for multiple users 
in
|o| /etc/rc.local?
|o|

        I've  done it  in  a SUN / Solaris box  via xdm  (dtlogin, CDE
equivalent  of  xdm, as a matter of fact). /etc/inittab spawns as many
vncservers as  I  wish,  all of  them querying localhost  (XDMCP), and
there's a boot script that  launches a  dtlogin  / xdm  instance  that
provides login / X sesssion  services for those VNC virtual X terms. I
suggest "man xdm" for details ...

        Of  course,  there are security concerns here ... specially if
you take into account that anynone (vncviewer) can connect to a server
if the "visitor" knows the password to be granted access. I don't have
that  many users who would like to use VNC features. So, I run one VNC
server instance for each of those users. Each instance uses a password
file stored into  the home dir of the user the instance is intended to
serve. An entry to start a VNC server   instance in /etc/inittab would
look like

        d1:234:respawn:/usr/local/vnc/Xvnc :1 -geometry 1024x768 \
        -rfbauth /home/USER/.vnc/passwd -rfbport 5901 -query localhost
        -once -rfbwait 120000 -desktop 'USER Setup' > \
        /usr/local/vnc/run/Xvnc:1 2>&1

        This setup also has the advantage of letting one customize the
X  resources (e.g.  geometry)  used in  a VNC server instance, meeting
user preferences without messing with others ones.

        The  drawback of  having memory allocated for all of those VNC
servers  ruuning  is lessened by *nix "unused" memory swapping. No big
concerns from my point of view ...

        Ok, it's a  limitted  aproach, but  apart from this scenario I
can't see others where it would be feasible to help users from logging
in and manually running a vncserver instance.

        HTH. Regards ...

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From: Alan Cox <alan "at" cymru.net>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:42:25 -0600
To: zzhang3 "at" uic.edu (robert)
cc: vnc-list "at" orl.co.uk
Subject: Re: watching tv
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> I have a tv card on my w95 and machine and try to teleport the tv screen 
=
> to anothere machine but can not see the picture, is there anyway that I =
> can make vnc to do this at all?

If its the standard BT848 based stuff then if you can tell windows vnc (Im
in a happy windows free environment) to poll that window it will work. No
drawing is done by the system but the image is rendered by DMA to the
video card so a polled read of the screen will retrieve the data. Ditto for
the Zoran cards (iomega buz/trust etc). If you have an ATI card you are
probably screwed.

In all cases sending the TV via VNC will suck performance and bandwidth
wise and you should probably use whatever the windows equivalent of
vstreamer/nv/vic/vat are.

Alan

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